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[00:50] Kim Monson: Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Monson Show.
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[01:18] Kim Monson: We've got a great show, great week planned for you today.
[01:26] Kim Monson: And today is the day to join the Kim Monson community because the town halls, the virtual town halls, as well as our classes begin.
[01:35] Kim Monson: So tomorrow evening, 745 to 9, we will have our first virtual town hall with John Eastman.
[01:46] Kim Monson: He's an expert on birthright citizenship.
[01:51] Kim Monson: We'll talk about the conversation that he had with Mike Pence and President Trump on January 4th before, obviously, January 6th.
[02:02] Kim Monson: And also, he was just recently disbarred by the state of Colorado.
[02:12] Kim Monson: And that's at all levels at the $50 level a year, $100 or $200 a year.
[02:21] Kim Monson: And then on Thursday evening, we'll kick off.
[02:25] Kim Monson: Allen Thomas's classes on the first half of the Federalist Papers and how they are relevant to today.
[02:31] Kim Monson: And so I think you need to be Monticello or Mount Vernon for that.
[02:37] Kim Monson: So join us and you can do all that at the website.
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[02:48] Kim Monson: And as you know, on the show, we search for truth and clarity.
[02:53] Kim Monson: As we look at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[02:59] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[03:03] Kim Monson: And it's not compassionate and it's not altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods or lives via force.
[03:14] Kim Monson: And the force could be a weapon, but it could be a policy, unpredictable in excess of taxation, fees, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, legislation, etc.
[03:28] Kim Monson: the agenda of the World Economic Forum and globalist elites that is playing out at the United Nations, but also playing out all the way to municipal governments as well as special districts, school districts and such.
[03:40] Kim Monson: And now that we see what's going on, we must engage in this.
[03:46] Kim Monson: And I know it seems like it's daunting, but we are having small successes here and there, and we must not give up.
[03:54] Kim Monson: On the show, we focus on the issues and we'll mention the people behind those issues that we work to stay out of all the personality fighting.
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[04:41] Kim Monson: And our word of the day is incongruity.
[04:45] Kim Monson: And it means not being agreeable or accordant,
[04:48] Kim Monson: not exhibiting harmony of the parts and not appropriate in fitting.
[04:55] Kim Monson: And so that is your challenge to use the word incongruity in a sentence today.
[05:04] Kim Monson: And the legislation, most of the legislation that we're seeing passed down at the Colorado State House is,
[05:17] Kim Monson: And that is why we continue to shed light on that through the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[05:25] Kim Monson: And say thank you to these folks when you see them out there.
[05:29] Kim Monson: That is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Janssen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard.
[05:41] Kim Monson: And when you join us, you will receive the email that we send out on Mondays to the legislators and the governor regarding positions on legislation.
[05:51] Kim Monson: And as we've seen, most of the things that are being passed and signed are incongruent with individual freedoms.
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[06:08] Kim Monson: Our quote of the day, this is a great quote by St.
[06:11] Kim Monson: And he was born in the year 354, died in 430.
[06:16] Kim Monson: He was a Christian theologian and philosopher.
[06:19] Kim Monson: He was the Bishop of Hippo Regis from Thagast in present-day Algeria.
[06:25] Kim Monson: His writings deeply influenced the development of Western philosophy and Western Christianity, and he's viewed as one of the most important church fathers of the Latin Church in the Patristic period.
[06:37] Kim Monson: His many important works include The City of God, On Christian Doctrine, and Confessions.
[06:43] Kim Monson: All these years ago, he was born in 340 AD.
[06:45] Kim Monson: But he said this, he said, the truth is like a lion.
[06:50] Kim Monson: Let it loose and it will defend itself.
[06:53] Kim Monson: And that's why we do this on the show to search for truth and clarity.
[06:59] Kim Monson: As he says, the truth is like a lion.
[07:03] Kim Monson: You just have to let it loose and it will defend itself.
[07:06] Kim Monson: Our bill of the day is Senate Bill 26023.
[07:13] Kim Monson: Prime sponsors are Senator Chris Kolker and Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer and Representative Eliza Hamrick.
[07:20] Kim Monson: Cut Colorado Union of Taxpayers is a no on this.
[07:24] Kim Monson: It says the bill set school finance funding levels for fiscal year 26-27 to reflect current law.
[07:30] Kim Monson: This increases the base per pupil funding by $208.60 to $8,940 and establishes statewide total program funding at $10.2 billion in fiscal year 2026-2027.
[07:47] Kim Monson: Now, I know that many times there will be a comparison that says our per-pupil funding might be lower than other states, but that's just shy of $9,000.
[07:55] Kim Monson: So for a class of 20 kids, and typically class sizes are bigger than that, that is about $180,000.
[08:05] Kim Monson: And it seems like out of that, we should be able to pay our teachers well.
[08:10] Kim Monson: And I think we need to reduce the pay, the number of administrators.
[08:17] Kim Monson: And that would, I think, help with our school budgets significantly.
[08:23] Kim Monson: One of the reasons somebody said we have to have these school administrators is because of all the rules and regulations.
[08:28] Kim Monson: Well, we've got to get back to making sure our kids can read and write and do arithmetic and know history.
[08:34] Kim Monson: But anyway, this is CUT's position on this.
[08:37] Kim Monson: It says, CUT unanimously opposes this bill.
[08:40] Kim Monson: Student performance scores continue to decline.
[08:43] Kim Monson: Enrollment continues to shrink, but administrations continue to grow.
[08:50] Kim Monson: This bill requires no accountability and gives no rationale.
[08:54] Kim Monson: Yet taxpayers are asked to fund a large increase in spending.
[08:57] Kim Monson: Legislators need to do their homework and they need to do their work.
[09:01] Kim Monson: And that is our position on Senate Bill 023, the School Finance Act.
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[09:18] Kim Monson: And I'm talking with Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team.
[09:22] Kim Monson: And last week, Roger, we were talking about transfer of risk.
[09:27] Kim Monson: And how does life insurance work into that equation?
[09:32] Roger Mangan: Tim, that's a good question, and let me share with you some of my thoughts.
[09:38] Roger Mangan: As we travel through the society we live in and become responsible adults, we're faced with many difficult and obligatory decisions.
[09:47] Roger Mangan: Education, career choices, marriage, housing, just to name a few.
[09:51] Roger Mangan: We're also left to make lifestyle choices, not obligatory ones.
[09:57] Roger Mangan: And I'm talking about hobbies, travel, recreation, entertainment.
[10:01] Roger Mangan: And I think sometimes we lose our balance in terms of these choices.
[10:07] Roger Mangan: The art of living is balancing these choices and not leaving yourself exposed to obvious risks.
[10:13] Roger Mangan: This brings me to the subject of protecting your most valuable asset, the economic engine that allows your life and lifestyle to go on and on.
[10:23] Roger Mangan: You are the engine that produces the wealth.
[10:26] Roger Mangan: So, for example, what is your worth as a human being?
[10:33] Roger Mangan: Let's say you have a job and you're making $100,000 a year.
[10:36] Roger Mangan: You're 40 years old and you're going to work 25 more years.
[10:40] Roger Mangan: That contributes to you earning $25 million potentially.
[10:51] Roger Mangan: And over 25 years, we pay the insurance company $25,000.
[10:59] Roger Mangan: As a matter of fact, it costs us to keep and maintain that asset.
[11:03] Roger Mangan: So if you paid $1,000 a year to insure and protect a $35,000 asset, a depreciating asset as well, wouldn't it make sense to spend $600 a year to insure your human life value for $25 million?
[11:20] Roger Mangan: Those are the kinds of thoughts that we need to open up in people's minds, your listeners' minds,
[11:26] Roger Mangan: And sit down with us and let us show you how to solve that conundrum.
[11:34] Kim Monson: Well, and what would be the best way for people to reach you to do that?
[11:38] Roger Mangan: Well, if you are interested in getting into some significant conversations, we're willing to be there for you.
[11:50] Kim Monson: Okay, and for sure, I think people should sit down and take a look at it.
[11:54] Kim Monson: One question on this, though, and I understand what you're saying regarding lifestyle risk.
[11:59] Kim Monson: So many of our young people, young families, they're really getting squeezed in so many different ways.
[12:05] Kim Monson: And I think I know the answer to this, but you'd really recommend that they make some choices with all that's out there
[12:13] Kim Monson: to transfer this risk in case of injury or death, right?
[12:20] Roger Mangan: And these lifestyle choices of recreation, entertainment, travel, vacations, I think we can help them plot that out.
[12:30] Roger Mangan: And if they're honest and say, okay, here's what I spend on Starbucks, here's what I do when I go out with the boys or the girls and spend money out.
[12:38] Roger Mangan: And I'm not saying you don't want to do that, but you have to certainly have some balance.
[12:43] Roger Mangan: And if you could divert some of those lifestyle choices to buying life insurance, for example, life insurance on a 40-year-old male, a million dollars of that coverage is somewhere around $52 a month.
[13:04] Roger Mangan: Burger King or whatever you want to do into them.
[13:06] Roger Mangan: If you're doing it five times, six times a week, some people eat out all the time and you push it back to three times or two times, you would find there's enough money to do what you need to do to take care of those financial responsibilities you have called family.
[13:22] Roger Mangan: And boy, I would say that we need probably for a 40 year old male with two children and married buying a home.
[13:34] Roger Mangan: Somewhere around 1.15 million, I did the math.
[13:39] Roger Mangan: If you want to replace your salary at $100,000 for five years, that's 500,000.
[13:50] Roger Mangan: And if you die, you'd want your wife to have some income replacement and have the mortgage paid.
[13:57] Roger Mangan: And then you have college education or trade school dollars for children, two children.
[14:02] Roger Mangan: You need $100,000 in an account today for a five- and six-year-old so when they're ready to go to school with inflation, you've got enough money in that side account for the children.
[14:14] Roger Mangan: Probably they're not going to pay everything just before your death.
[14:23] Roger Mangan: And that sounds like a lot of money, and it is if you had to come up with it right away.
[14:28] Roger Mangan: But over your lifetime, that's your commitment.
[14:30] Roger Mangan: So I think there's a way for you to spend some of that Starbucks money and spend $52 a month on a $1.15 million life insurance policy.
[14:43] Kim Monson: Okay, and how can people reach you to talk about this, Roger Mangan?
[14:52] Roger Mangan: I have five wonderful employees who are focused on
[15:05] Roger Mangan: If we don't help you, then you can go your merry way.
[15:15] Kim Monson: Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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[17:25] Kim Monson: And there is a lot that is going on in our world today.
[17:29] Kim Monson: But this is one of the things that is really important.
[17:33] Kim Monson: And that is regarding the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Association.
[17:37] Kim Monson: They need to hear from us regarding, and this is from Rosie, and I thank her for keeping me so informed on all of this.
[17:44] Kim Monson: It says the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission wants to ban the sale, barter, or trade of wildlife fur in Colorado and adversely impact the state's beaver management plan.
[17:54] Kim Monson: This is the latest attack from those looking to ban hunting against the North American model and it must stop.
[18:03] Kim Monson: And these rules are not needed as there is no threat to wildlife management.
[18:07] Kim Monson: And there is no proof of overharvesting by furbearers.
[18:12] Kim Monson: In 2024, voters spoke in Denver with Proposition 308 and throughout Colorado with Initiative 127.
[18:20] Kim Monson: And so we need to make sure that we have our voices heard.
[18:28] Kim Monson: May 6th and 7th in Grand Junction will be the next meeting on this.
[18:34] Kim Monson: The locations are not finalized, but you can get more information by going to SaveTheHuntColorado.com.
[18:45] Kim Monson: Then, in addition, you can make your voices heard.
[18:48] Kim Monson: We had Greg Lopez on at the end of the week last week regarding from a...
[18:58] Kim Monson: National level regarding the wolves.
[19:00] Kim Monson: And you can make your voices heard on that as well by going to...
[19:18] Kim Monson: We'll have that in the show recap again.
[19:21] Kim Monson: And you can make your comments regarding the wolf introduction program that occurred here in Colorado as well.
[19:28] Kim Monson: And all these things, this assault upon hunting with these new rules through the Colorado Parks and Wildlife, and then the introduction of the wolf on the Western Slope,
[19:43] Kim Monson: which is a depredation to livestock.
[19:47] Kim Monson: All of this affects our livelihoods.
[19:51] Kim Monson: And so we do need to make our voices heard.
[19:52] Kim Monson: And I'll get all that information for you so that it is going to be a bit easier.
[19:57] Kim Monson: I saw a headline and let me know what you think.
[20:04] Kim Monson: But with government getting in the business of trash and
[20:10] Kim Monson: It's been occurring for quite some time.
[20:12] Kim Monson: We've seen this in some of the different municipalities where government has basically said that they will have one trash hauler.
[20:22] Kim Monson: So, for example, that has happened up in Fort Collins, and you don't have to use that particular trash hauler.
[20:31] Kim Monson: But if you don't use that trash hauler, then you have to pay an additional fee.
[20:35] Kim Monson: And so what it is doing is taking away competition.
[20:39] Kim Monson: And then I think that once they have taken away the competition and government is in control of our trash, of course, under pollution, then I think we continue to see more and more restrictions on different things.
[20:53] Kim Monson: For example, because of the drought and because of mismanagement of our water resources, there's going to be water restrictions.
[21:03] Kim Monson: And then under the guise of climate change and with Excel and different monopolies on energy providing power to us, we're seeing that prices are going up and there is rationing by brownouts, blackouts.
[21:26] Kim Monson: So again, this is all about control.
[21:29] Kim Monson: Now, if they can control our waste, then that is another way to control our lives.
[21:36] Kim Monson: And certainly, we want to be good stewards of our earth, and we can do that.
[21:42] Kim Monson: But under the guise of being good stewards, what we're seeing is just more and more control.
[21:50] Kim Monson: First of all, Mamdani is chasing people out of New York that are...
[21:56] Kim Monson: productive citizens and continue to spend lots of money.
[22:02] Kim Monson: So I wonder how much this is going to cost.
[22:06] Kim Monson: It says New York City is converting 6,500 parking spaces into giant trash containers by 2027.
[22:14] Kim Monson: And they have a list of the neighborhoods.
[22:17] Kim Monson: So again, this will be an assault upon your freedom of mobility.
[22:21] Kim Monson: If you do have a car in New York, it'll be more and more difficult to find a place to park it.
[22:27] Kim Monson: And it says this massive expansion of the Empire Bend program promises cleaner, rat-free sidewalks, but drivers are about to lose thousands of street spots across all five boroughs.
[22:41] Kim Monson: And he says, we have a plan, we're investing the money, and we're delivering on the promise of clean, healthy streets for every neighborhood, he said in a conference.
[22:53] Kim Monson: Of course, those are words people like, clean, healthy streets.
[22:56] Kim Monson: He says, goes on to say, you might have already spotted these giant metal boxes in West Harlem where the pilot program originally kicked off.
[23:04] Kim Monson: Dubbed the Empire Bin during the Adams administration.
[23:08] Kim Monson: These massive street containers are designed to hold dozens of large trash bags at once.
[23:14] Kim Monson: They require special automated side loading trucks.
[23:17] Kim Monson: So just think about all the expense on that to service them.
[23:20] Kim Monson: And only authorized building managers have the key cards to open them up.
[23:26] Kim Monson: says Mayor Mamdani is bringing these Empire bins to at least one community district in every single borough by the end of 2027.
[23:34] Kim Monson: And I just, with what I'm seeing with Mamdani, I just see this continued, the agenda of the World Economic Forum really is the agenda of socialism moving into communism.
[23:49] Kim Monson: As Yvonne Paez has said, do you know what the difference is between socialism and communism?
[23:58] Kim Monson: Now, quite frankly, the idea of having a cleaner city, that is a great idea.
[24:03] Kim Monson: However, maybe trash service needs to be better.
[24:09] Kim Monson: So let's just stay tuned and watch what happens with this.
[24:12] Kim Monson: Because Mamdani, what we see is he likes to spend money and he likes to control people's lives.
[24:19] Kim Monson: So we'll have to stay tuned and see what happens with all of that.
[24:23] Kim Monson: And another, I think this is a really interesting headline.
[24:30] Kim Monson: It said voters oust half of Missouri City Council for greenlighting a six...
[24:39] Kim Monson: billion dollar ai data center i'm wondering if i get getting all my zeros right it says voters in the town of festus missouri voted against four members of the town's eight members city council who voted to greenlight a six billion dollar data center project a week prior according to st louis public radio anger has been brewing in several localities across the u.s against data center projects with voters in a wisconsin town overwhelmingly opting tuesday to crack down on proposed development
[25:08] Kim Monson: And it says this recent vote followed months of at times raucous opposition against the CRG Clay Coast plan to build a hyperscale data center on 360 acres in the town.
[25:20] Kim Monson: The four city council members who lost their reelection bids were defeated by candidates who ran against the data centers and supported more transparency in the data center approval process.
[25:30] Kim Monson: Since the data center fight has struck this community to the core and really honestly ignited a community-driven effort here, said Dan Moore, who defeated pro-data center incumbent Bobby Binns, people are awake now and we're not going to let this continue on anymore.
[25:45] Kim Monson: Residents opposed to the AI data center flooded a local gymnasium to voice their frustrations during a March 31st city council meeting where the council voted to approve a framework of requirements for CRG's planned construction.
[25:59] Kim Monson: And as you all know, I was on the road at the end of last week with Virginia Macha.
[26:08] Kim Monson: And also we did the broadcast on Thursday morning and also did the first podcast for her Stand for the Land.
[26:21] Kim Monson: She is moving Stand for the Land Kansas to Stand for the Land.
[26:30] Kim Monson: throughout rural America are very frustrated with these industrial solar fields, industrial wind fields, these industrial transmission lines.
[26:43] Kim Monson: I understand in the AI arena that there's good things that can occur with AI.
[26:51] Kim Monson: And I know that from a national security standpoint, we need to make sure that we're on the forefront as well.
[26:58] Kim Monson: But these huge data centers that are going in, these are not to help with national security or to help you finish your emails.
[27:13] Kim Monson: If we're looking for a particular item on the internet, then all of a sudden it pops up all the time.
[27:20] Kim Monson: They're continuing to collect more and more and more data on each and every one of us.
[27:25] Kim Monson: And that will ultimately move into the potential for more and more control over our lives.
[27:33] Kim Monson: And also they're big, big land grabs.
[27:38] Kim Monson: And so people are waking up and making their voices heard
[27:42] Kim Monson: just like they did in this little town in Missouri.
[27:47] Kim Monson: I did want to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo.
[27:52] Kim Monson: And they are focused on these American foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism.
[27:59] Kim Monson: And I also wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation.
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[32:02] Kim Monson: And on the line with me is Tig Tiegen.
[32:05] Kim Monson: And I think you probably all know him.
[32:08] Kim Monson: He took action on September 11th in 2012 in Benghazi, Libya, to save many of...
[32:20] Kim Monson: And so he's just very inspirational and tells that story.
[32:27] Kim Monson: But he's also running for Colorado Springs mayor.
[32:30] Kim Monson: So we want to talk about that as well.
[32:32] Kim Monson: So Tig Tiegen, welcome to the show.
[32:38] Kim Monson: But let's begin with what happened in Benghazi.
[32:43] Kim Monson: I know we all know Benghazi, but you were there.
[32:49] Tig Tiegen: Well, you know, I would say we all don't know Benghazi because, again, there's a lot of generations.
[32:55] Tig Tiegen: There's a lot of young generations that don't know it that are actually voting nowadays.
[32:58] Tig Tiegen: But, you know, a U.S. ambassador was unfortunately was killed and three other Americans, Tyrone Woods, Glenn Doherty and others.
[33:08] Tig Tiegen: And, uh, you know, it's, you know, a lot of people don't know really what happened.
[33:14] Tig Tiegen: Um, you know, seven actually was seven Al Qaeda organizations that came together and attacked the U S consulate.
[33:20] Tig Tiegen: Um, you know, I was part of the CIA security team.
[33:23] Tig Tiegen: We were told to stand down when that, when it happened, we defied those orders and we left, um, you know, we went over there and, uh, we dispersed the initial attackers.
[33:35] Tig Tiegen: while we're on the us consulate grounds, well, they call it a special mission after he got attacked.
[33:40] Tig Tiegen: But, um, while we're on the constant grounds, we got counter-attacked, we repelled that assault and we could not find the ambassador.
[33:48] Tig Tiegen: And, and, uh, unfortunately, um, the, the, his security team lost control of him or contact with them.
[33:55] Tig Tiegen: Um, and then while we're then after repelled the second attack,
[34:01] Tig Tiegen: The U.S. consulate security team, they left the compound, went back to our compound, which, you know, we were about a mile away as a crow flies, about two miles away as a road on the drive.
[34:14] Tig Tiegen: But they left, and as we're kind of still there trying to figure out what we're going to do, we're going to wait for the smoke to kind of dissipate.
[34:26] Tig Tiegen: By this time, the drone was overhead.
[34:28] Tig Tiegen: And they were saying there's about another 150 people moving towards us.
[34:32] Tig Tiegen: So that's when we left the U.S. consulate and went back to our compound.
[34:40] Tig Tiegen: We got attacked three more times at our compound.
[34:45] Tig Tiegen: The last one, the last attack, that's what killed Glenn Doherty and Tyrone Woods.
[34:53] Tig Tiegen: They were both killed with the mortar rounds and also injured.
[34:59] Tig Tiegen: Oz, Mark Geist, and then Dave Ubin, which he was one of the different security agents.
[35:10] Kim Monson: Tig, this is in my brain as you mentioned this about the U.S. ambassador.
[35:16] Kim Monson: I remember seeing his bloodied body and them dragging him through the streets, and it looked to me like that they had tortured him.
[35:30] Diarization artifacts (single-word interjections): Sure.
[35:33] Tig Tiegen: He was never tortured, mutilated, or he was never raped.
[35:37] Tig Tiegen: So that image that went around, that was an Egyptian guy from like 2003.
[35:41] Tig Tiegen: So actually, I saw the video footage from the guy who recovered his body from, I don't know, they say they were just pretty much looters.
[35:56] Tig Tiegen: Um, the, the guy grabbed the ambassador Steven says he knew who he was.
[36:00] Tig Tiegen: They didn't know who they had, which was a good thing.
[36:04] Tig Tiegen: He took him to his vehicle, put him in his vehicle and drove him straight to the hospital.
[36:09] Tig Tiegen: That's exactly what happened to the ambassador.
[36:13] Kim Monson: That's well, first of all, the photo is riveting.
[36:18] Kim Monson: I am glad to hear that it was not the ambassador, but I'd heard just all these things that you just described that all these years.
[36:25] Kim Monson: That is what I thought happened to him, which is that's really disconcerting that we never got the real story.
[36:33] Tig Tiegen: And that's one of the reasons why a lot of us, why we came out and started talking, because none of our so-called political leaders were telling the truth about what happened.
[36:43] Tig Tiegen: They would just let rumors go, which is bullcrap, especially for the families and loved ones that knew these people.
[36:52] Tig Tiegen: We try to tell the truth as much as we can to anybody that will listen.
[36:56] Tig Tiegen: So, you know, when people ask, you know, do you, you know, do you talk about, do you want to talk about, yeah, we, a lot, all three of us will talk about it, you know, and, and I think Boone, he talks about it now too.
[37:06] Tig Tiegen: Um, so now there's four of us because of those rumors that get out, you know, it's, you know, for him to, a lot of people think that that was him in that picture that he was raped, mutilated or tortured.
[37:17] Tig Tiegen: He died of smoke inhalation and he was in that building for hours.
[37:22] Tig Tiegen: You know, you picture it from, you know, 10, pretty much I would say from 10 p.m.
[37:22] Tig Tiegen: We found Sean Smith, you know, pretty early on when we first got there.
[37:41] Tig Tiegen: So he was the he was the communication officer for the ambassador for the consulate, I guess you could say.
[37:46] Tig Tiegen: So he was responsible to make sure the comms were working and stuff like that.
[37:51] Kim Monson: And were there others that died other than the ones that you mentioned on that day?
[37:58] Tig Tiegen: It was besides the terrorists that we took out.
[38:03] Kim Monson: What about all the other staff at the consulate?
[38:07] Tig Tiegen: There was only seven of them over there.
[38:10] Tig Tiegen: So it was the ambassador, Sean Smith, and five security officers, and that was it.
[38:20] Kim Monson: Okay, this is September 11th, and we know that September 11th is a date that very possibly there's going to be a tax upon Americans.
[38:36] Kim Monson: Now, Obama is president at this time, correct?
[38:46] Tig Tiegen: Hillary was in charge of the State Department.
[38:54] Kim Monson: How could you leave the ambassador in such a risky situation, right?
[39:06] Tig Tiegen: I mean, we shut down our operations to kind of help facilitate his operations, just security-wise for movement and stuff like that.
[39:14] Tig Tiegen: But, you know, we weren't sleeping over there.
[39:16] Tig Tiegen: We had our own compound we had to defend and protect that night.
[39:19] Tig Tiegen: But, you know, a lot of people don't realize eight hours prior to that happening, the U.S. embassy in Cairo got overran.
[39:33] Tig Tiegen: So for them to say that no assets were in the area, they should have been already in the area because of the attack eight hours prior.
[39:39] Tig Tiegen: Stuff should have been moving and happening.
[39:42] Tig Tiegen: But again, that's just piss poor management, piss poor leadership.
[39:46] Tig Tiegen: Kind of like what we have in the country right now, in my opinion.
[39:50] Kim Monson: You're saying that regarding Trump?
[39:56] Tig Tiegen: No, no, just other local leaders, you know, from our governor on down.
[40:01] Tig Tiegen: No, I think Trump's doing freaking awesome.
[40:03] Tig Tiegen: I think if Trump was in office, that it...
[40:09] Tig Tiegen: Ronan and Bubba definitely would be alive.
[40:13] Kim Monson: So what you're talking about is, you know, other offices, other, you know, what we have in Colorado right now.
[40:23] Tig Tiegen: Yeah, just lack of leadership, lack of commitment, and just lack of decision-making.
[40:34] Kim Monson: What we are seeing, I think, Tig, you're running for mayor for Colorado Springs.
[40:39] Kim Monson: And I served on city council 2012 to 2016, which was very interesting.
[40:46] Kim Monson: I learned a lot about how all of this works.
[40:50] Kim Monson: And what I've seen is that there may be very well-meaning people that get elected to local office, county office.
[41:00] Kim Monson: commissioners, even going down to the state legislature.
[41:04] Kim Monson: But I think I'll focus on county commissioners and city council and mayors is what happens is that the first thing that is, is that they're brought into a retreat normally.
[41:21] Kim Monson: So the bureaucrats come in and they explain their different departments, why they need money.
[41:27] Kim Monson: And all of a sudden, what happens is people forget that they are representing the people and they think that they're pushing the municipality's interests.
[41:39] Kim Monson: And certainly our towns where we live, it's important.
[41:43] Kim Monson: But the most local of all government is ourselves and our families.
[41:48] Kim Monson: That's taken care of first and then move up from there.
[41:52] Kim Monson: Have you, as you are looking at running for mayor, does this make, is this something that you've seen?
[41:58] Tig Tiegen: You know, so when I ran the first time and, you know, I knew it was a long shot.
[42:08] Tig Tiegen: And then I, you know, when I didn't make it, I had all kinds of people coming up to me.
[42:14] Tig Tiegen: You need to start talking with this group.
[42:16] Tig Tiegen: And I'm like, no, I'm not hanging out with anybody.
[42:18] Tig Tiegen: I'm not running for any office because of kind of the stuff you're saying.
[42:21] Tig Tiegen: You start getting influenced doing other things.
[42:24] Tig Tiegen: You start getting pulled into this direction, that direction.
[42:26] Tig Tiegen: And like you said, people actually lose focus.
[42:30] Tig Tiegen: That's one thing I think I'm really different.
[42:32] Tig Tiegen: I'm very solid in how I think and how I stand.
[42:35] Tig Tiegen: I think Benghazi is a prime example.
[42:38] Tig Tiegen: Like we don't, we, and again, we defied orders and kind of pretty much risking our own jobs and
[42:46] Tig Tiegen: You know, and our, you know, if we got killed over at the consulate, no, our insurance never would have paid out.
[42:52] Tig Tiegen: You know, we do have insurance to do things.
[42:54] Tig Tiegen: We do got to think out our families wouldn't have been taken care of.
[42:57] Tig Tiegen: So, you know, you have to have the correct backbone.
[43:02] Tig Tiegen: I'm not saying, you know, other people don't, but like, like what you're saying, there's so many little sections within the city that a lot of people think the mayor does everything and he doesn't.
[43:14] Tig Tiegen: He has his big, honest, his biggest function.
[43:18] Tig Tiegen: He controls pretty much the law enforcement side, the executive side, which just makes sure everything is running in order.
[43:26] Tig Tiegen: So for me, like you're saying, it's just making sure everything is going the way it's supposed to be going.
[43:32] Tig Tiegen: They say people, you know, the mayor does the budget.
[43:37] Tig Tiegen: But the city council can actually, they can override it.
[43:41] Tig Tiegen: They can write this in, write that in, and they pass the budget.
[43:45] Tig Tiegen: So the mayor has the initial portion of it and city council does what they want to do with it.
[43:50] Tig Tiegen: So, you know, it's everybody kind of working together to make sure the city actually goes.
[43:55] Tig Tiegen: But my opinion, the mayor has the biggest influence, the biggest voice with the populace itself.
[44:01] Tig Tiegen: You know, he's, you know, he's kind of, from where I read into it, you know, he doesn't really have...
[44:07] Tig Tiegen: The authority that people think, especially here in Commonwealth Springs anyways, that people think he does.
[44:14] Tig Tiegen: But for me, the one that's here now, he ain't doing anything.
[44:22] Tig Tiegen: He's not really standing up for the people.
[44:25] Tig Tiegen: He's just kind of letting people, it's like a stepping stone for him, in my opinion.
[44:29] Tig Tiegen: So he's just kind of, he's playing that line of just letting things kind of go, making it look kind of pretty on the surface.
[44:40] Kim Monson: Well, let's continue the discussion on this because these local offices are so important.
[44:47] Kim Monson: And I think that many times those of us that are focused on this Republican form of government, our constitutional republic, we've lost sight of what government is supposed to do and be in its proper role.
[45:06] Kim Monson: And so Tig Tiegen is running for mayor of Colorado Springs.
[45:11] Kim Monson: His website is Tig, that's T-I-G-F-O-R, mayor.com.
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[48:16] Kim Monson: And I've got on the line with me Tig Tiegen.
[48:18] Kim Monson: And he was in Benghazi in Libya on September 11th in 2012.
[48:26] Kim Monson: And he and some other guys defied orders and went over to the U.S. consulate.
[48:33] Kim Monson: You said something, I want to go back to that, and one of our listeners mentioned this as well, is that you were told to stand down on that night.
[48:43] Kim Monson: That's extremely curious to me, so expound upon that a little bit.
[48:54] Tig Tiegen: It didn't come from Hillary or anyone else.
[48:57] Tig Tiegen: That's just the type of person that he was.
[48:59] Tig Tiegen: And, you know, I was there the second time.
[49:03] Tig Tiegen: A lot of people don't know that either.
[49:04] Tig Tiegen: Actually, that night on 9-11 was the third time it got attacked.
[49:08] Tig Tiegen: And we were told to stand down that night as well.
[49:12] Tig Tiegen: But luckily, you know, there was nothing.
[49:18] Tig Tiegen: That was just who Bob was, you know, and that delay cost, it cost the lives of Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith, because if we don't be able to go and do what our job was to do, which our number one job as GRS is hostage rescue.
[49:37] Tig Tiegen: I mean, our, you know, we, we train over and over on, you know, CQB, which is close quarter battles, hostage rescue and stuff like that, you know?
[49:46] Tig Tiegen: And so, you know, when I got there, I immediately engaged with the, you know, with the enemy, with the, with the, uh, with the grenade launcher and that's what actually dispersed them.
[49:56] Tig Tiegen: So that 25 minute delay or that 25 minute wait, whatever the government wants to say, uh,
[50:03] Tig Tiegen: That caused the death, well, besides the actual attackers, but the smoke inhalation, that's what killed Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith.
[50:11] Tig Tiegen: That delay allowed them to light the buildings on fire because they were locked in their safe rooms.
[50:18] Tig Tiegen: They couldn't defend themselves because of the location they were in.
[50:21] Tig Tiegen: Their heavy guns were locked up, just kind of like the Democrats want to do here back home.
[50:27] Tig Tiegen: They want to lock up all of our guns, take our guns away.
[50:31] Tig Tiegen: They were they could not have their their heavy guns with them in their quarters.
[50:42] Kim Monson: So we at Tig Tiegen, we are at, I really think, a time of choosing in our country.
[50:49] Kim Monson: I think that we have, in many ways, abdicated our responsibilities as citizens to make sure that we are engaged with our government.
[51:04] Diarization artifacts (single-word interjections): Mm-hmm.
[51:04] Kim Monson: And in doing so, while we were not paying attention, we've seen at the local and the county and the state level here in Colorado that there are radical activists that have been elected that really want to control our lives.
[51:22] Kim Monson: And in fact, there are some on some of these city councils that make no bones about it, that they are radical.
[51:29] Kim Monson: Democrat socialists, which, and Yvonne said that I didn't get this quite right on the text line.
[51:35] Kim Monson: She said, when I said to Yvonne, I said, what's the difference between socialism and communism?
[51:47] Kim Monson: She also clarified what a PPP is in military lingo.
[51:53] Kim Monson: She said it's not public-private partnerships, but you said it earlier regarding it.
[51:58] Kim Monson: Earlier, which is poor performance.
[52:08] Kim Monson: So we have got to get these local governments and these county governments back into the proper role of government.
[52:18] Kim Monson: And with Mamdani, I mentioned this earlier in the show, they're doing these new trash containers.
[52:26] Kim Monson: And he's saying this under the guise of a cleaner city, a rat-free city, which people all like that idea.
[52:35] Kim Monson: But what I see is that if you control people's water and their power and their food and their trash, then you control the people.
[52:44] Kim Monson: And so given his track record, I'm pretty concerned about that, Tig.
[52:53] Tig Tiegen: There's no fundamentals in America under that system whatsoever.
[53:02] Tig Tiegen: You lost the very fabric, the very roots of what our founders fought and died and sacrificed for.
[53:08] Tig Tiegen: The fact that New York is going in the direction that they're going in, it's disgusting.
[53:21] Tig Tiegen: I mean, you gotta yell at the market control itself.
[53:23] Tig Tiegen: You gotta let the people be able to kind of like COVID COVID is a prime example of what happens when they, when the government starts oppressing you, you know, it killed more people than the actual system, the natural disease itself, or the, you know, the China virus did itself.
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[53:41] Tig Tiegen: And that's one of the main reasons why I ran in 2023 is because of that oppression and
[53:46] Tig Tiegen: that our own state government and city government did to us.
[53:52] Tig Tiegen: It just pissed me off because of all the blood that I've shed, all the blood that our fellow veterans have shed.
[53:58] Tig Tiegen: It's not the nation that was founded on whatsoever.
[54:05] Kim Monson: So what's the first thing that you would tackle when elected mayor?
[54:10] Tig Tiegen: You know, it's going to be public safety is going to be number one.
[54:13] Tig Tiegen: We've been dealing with the same kind of issues since, honestly, I looked all the way back.
[54:17] Tig Tiegen: I went all the way back to 2000, and it's been the exact same problem since our growth.
[54:22] Tig Tiegen: We're outpacing our infrastructure.
[54:26] Tig Tiegen: And it's just going to be motivating the law enforcement, getting their –
[54:30] Tig Tiegen: just getting their motivation up, you know, for why I didn't want to be the cop 2020 really destroyed that.
[54:36] Tig Tiegen: I mean, he's, he's out there saying, praising, you know, how he, he got more people to answer phones.
[54:43] Tig Tiegen: So somebody can call and say hello, but while you're sitting there being shot for 20 minutes, nobody's coming.
[54:49] Tig Tiegen: So it's a matter of just actually keeping law enforcement, making them a little bit prouder of being their job or losing.
[55:01] Tig Tiegen: I mean, you got guys that have got like four years, two years left and they're like, I can't wait to be done.
[55:14] Tig Tiegen: And that comes from the leadership that starts at the mayor.
[55:18] Tig Tiegen: It starts with city council starts with, you know, that's where it goes.
[55:22] Tig Tiegen: It starts at the top and works its way down.
[55:25] Tig Tiegen: So when you have that type of leadership, it's not good.
[55:29] Tig Tiegen: So that's the first thing you got to start fixing is the morale within the city.
[55:34] Tig Tiegen: And I don't think it's going to be hard.
[55:37] Tig Tiegen: I think it's going to be fairly easy.
[55:38] Tig Tiegen: And it's just being with the guys is being with the, you know, with and showing me actually care, not just going on the news and talking that you care.
[55:48] Tig Tiegen: I mean, he already does the dog and pony show.
[55:50] Tig Tiegen: So you might as well do with the law enforcement as well and actually proving it.
[55:55] Tig Tiegen: Being a leader is actually showing up and doing what you say you're going to be doing.
[56:02] Kim Monson: And of course, that vision is the the American idea.
[56:05] Kim Monson: And that is individual freedom and government in a proper role.
[56:09] Kim Monson: Tig Tiegen, we have about 30 seconds left.
[56:12] Kim Monson: So your final thought and how can people get more information about you?
[56:18] Tig Tiegen: Well, the election is not until April 2027, so I got a long time.
[56:24] Tig Tiegen: But I do have an event coming up also called AMF Full Throttle 2027.
[56:28] Tig Tiegen: So if you're a local business, you want to get involved, this brings foot traffic into your business, but it helps American Military Family, which helps veterans and first responders.
[56:39] Tig Tiegen: It's mainly on Facebook, the event page and stuff like that.
[56:42] Tig Tiegen: It's free for participants to join.
[56:43] Tig Tiegen: Right now I have about $6,000 in giveaways.
[56:48] Tig Tiegen: So I would like to get more business involved to help raise funds for American military family.
[56:56] Kim Monson: And that website is tigformayor.com.
[57:04] Kim Monson: And you have brought truth to things that I had believed for, gosh, 14 years.
[57:14] Kim Monson: He is running for mayor of Colorado Springs.
[57:20] Kim Monson: And this is a very appropriate quote for Tig Tiegen.
[57:24] Kim Monson: He said, Hope has two beautiful daughters.
[57:29] Kim Monson: Anger at the way things are and Courage to see that they do not remain as they are.
[57:34] Kim Monson: So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate less well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
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[59:18] Kim Monson: And really interesting, hour number one.
[59:22] Kim Monson: If you missed it, we should have the recap and podcast on the website by probably noon today.
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[59:33] Kim Monson: But Tig Tiegen, who was in Benghazi earlier,
[59:36] Kim Monson: On September 11, 2012, he and three other guys did not stand down, and they went over to the American consulate that was under attack.
[59:48] Kim Monson: And there are things that I have believed for the last 14 years that he explained that they were not true.
[59:56] Kim Monson: And I'm concerned about that, that why did I never get...
[60:03] Kim Monson: the information that these things that were brought out that they were not true.
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[60:23] Kim Monson: And, uh, I had always thought that this photo that I'd seen of a man that had been tortured was the, that the body of our American ambassador.
[60:37] Kim Monson: I'm going to be, I think, just disconcerted about that all day today.
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[63:10] Kim Monson: She's helping me with my personal financial freedom.
[63:18] Kim Monson: And I've not talked with you for a little while because it's been the last time we'd pre-recorded the show.
[63:25] Kim Monson: So there's a lot that's going on in our world, but a lot going on with the stock market.
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[63:45] Kim Monson: So, yeah, there's been a lot that's going on.
[63:47] Kim Monson: That is that volatility is difficult for people to manage from an emotional standpoint, I think, Jody.
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[64:06] Jody Hinsey: I mean, that's the biggest mistake that people make is they let their emotions and their personal feelings drive their financial decisions.
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[64:55] Kim Monson: Well, and over the long haul, that is how people will achieve financial freedom.
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[67:30] Kim Monson: So and again, so that's May 12th, which is it's actually just right around the corner and that will be virtual.
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[71:36] Kim Monson: On the line with me is Colorado Representative Scott Slaugh.
[71:41] Kim Monson: And he I wanted to talk with him about a piece that was recently published on this House Bill 26-1276.
[71:49] Kim Monson: Protect safety of individuals who are immigrants.
[71:53] Kim Monson: Representative Slaugh, welcome to the show.
[72:00] Kim Monson: And this is your inaugural term as a representative, isn't it?
[72:09] Scott Slaugh: And so it's been about a little over 90 days that I've been in the chair and doing the job down here at the Capitol and was sworn in a few months before that.
[72:18] Kim Monson: And so you represent which particular district in what area is that?
[72:25] Scott Slaugh: Yeah, I represent House District 64, and that is West Greeley and Johnstown and Milliken and Berthoud and Meade is generally the area that I represent.
[72:35] Kim Monson: And you were appointed because Representative Armagost moved out of state, correct?
[72:45] Scott Slaugh: Yeah, he had some things that caused him to have a better place to go than where he was.
[72:54] Scott Slaugh: And he moved out of state for some business reasons, too.
[72:59] Scott Slaugh: Some of the gun bills that were passed made it difficult for him to continue making a living the way that he was previously.
[73:06] Scott Slaugh: So the timing was right for him, and it was a good thing for him to be in a different place.
[73:14] Kim Monson: Well, thank you for stepping forward to serve.
[73:17] Kim Monson: And it's certainly, as the president, I'm the president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is an all-volunteer group that watches legislation.
[73:26] Kim Monson: And just from afar, as we're watching legislation, it is monumental, the amount of...
[73:35] Kim Monson: bills and resolutions that are proposed down there.
[73:38] Kim Monson: As of yesterday morning, I think there was 666 bills and resolutions that have been proposed.
[73:45] Kim Monson: And some of them have been signed into law.
[73:50] Kim Monson: But let's talk about this House Bill 26-1276.
[73:51] Kim Monson: It protects safety of individuals who are immigrants.
[73:57] Kim Monson: The prime sponsors on this are Representative Elizabeth Velasco
[74:05] Kim Monson: And this seems like this is doing even more to make Denver, Colorado a sanctuary place for illegal immigrants.
[74:20] Scott Slaugh: I don't think that that's too strong of a statement at all.
[74:23] Scott Slaugh: Representative Velasco and Representative Garcia, both are...
[74:28] Scott Slaugh: You know, they're very pro-immigration and very pro-immigrant and are not necessarily discerning about the status of that individual.
[74:40] Scott Slaugh: They want Colorado to be a place where everybody can come to, regardless of their documentation or legality status.
[74:49] Scott Slaugh: And so, yeah, that's, I'm sure, part of the aim of what they're trying to do with this bill.
[74:55] Kim Monson: But this could put us at risk of federal funding, although I really think that we've got to get to a point where we're not trying to live off of Washington.
[75:21] Scott Slaugh: Even in our discussion about the budget week before last in the House, when we went through the Longville, there's billions of dollars that we get from Washington as a state for one reason or another.
[75:36] Scott Slaugh: And in this particular instance, one of the things that I talked about and that we had learned through doing the research is that
[75:45] Scott Slaugh: This bill would put at risk some of the money that we do get back from the federal government or we get reimbursed from the federal government when county jails or prisons or or local jails have incarcerated
[76:05] Scott Slaugh: criminal aliens, we get reimbursed for that or counties can seek reimbursement for that if they choose.
[76:12] Scott Slaugh: And the state of Colorado gets over $4 million all total between the state and individual counties in reimbursements from the federal government when they cooperate between state and federal agencies.
[76:27] Scott Slaugh: and then seek that reimbursement for that incarceration.
[76:31] Scott Slaugh: And we're potentially at risk for losing that reimbursement if this bill passes and if Colorado continues some of its sanctuary state policies, which is obviously concerning when we have the massive budget struggles that we have in Colorado.
[76:48] Kim Monson: Well, and the budget has gone up significantly from last year, yes?
[76:52] Diarization artifacts (single-word interjections): Yes.
[76:54] Scott Slaugh: Yeah, I can't remember the exact number of the exact percentage, but I think it was a little over, I think it was 2% or so that it has gone up, even though
[77:08] Scott Slaugh: We had tighter constraints and we were trying to keep it from growing.
[77:15] Scott Slaugh: The number that's been pushed around a lot has been $1.5 billion shortfall.
[77:21] Scott Slaugh: And despite even that, we still had an increase in the total amount that the budget was spending this next year.
[77:38] Scott Slaugh: Whether we have the money or not, you know, we're going to there's there's talks about some of that money that we'll have will be from labor refunds that won't go out potentially.
[77:49] Scott Slaugh: Or there's lots of different places where we're trying to say that we have this money.
[77:54] Scott Slaugh: We have to have a balanced budget and having a balanced budget and making all of the numbers look right on paper is difficult.
[78:03] Scott Slaugh: somewhat of a different thing than having the money in the bank account and saying how we're going to spend it.
[78:16] Scott Slaugh: This could potentially exacerbate that problem.
[78:20] Kim Monson: Now, regarding immigrants, because there's a lot of news out there, there's a lot of different views about that.
[78:34] Kim Monson: And really across the spectrum, when I talk with people, I said, I said, I think there are some things that we can agree on regarding immigration.
[78:44] Kim Monson: First of all, if people have come here to hurt us,
[78:51] Kim Monson: And if people are criminals in their country of origin or are committing criminal acts here,
[79:00] Kim Monson: If people have come here to live off of the American taxpayer, Americans, Coloradans, everyday people are being squeezed in all different ways.
[79:10] Kim Monson: And so then to have to pay taxes to pay for people that are living off of these government programs, we don't need to be bringing people in to do that.
[79:20] Kim Monson: And then if people have even come here
[79:23] Kim Monson: through the refugee resettlement or asylee programs, and they're defrauding Americans, they need to go.
[79:31] Kim Monson: And I found, Representative Slaugh, that almost everybody agrees with that.
[79:42] Scott Slaugh: I think that, I mean, I don't think anybody in the Colorado House, whichever side of the aisle you sit on,
[79:51] Scott Slaugh: I don't know that you would find anybody that wouldn't agree that the United States of America is a nation of immigrants.
[80:00] Scott Slaugh: All of us, when we look back in our lineage, at some point in time, we had a, you know, it may have been ourselves, it may have been our parents, grandparents, great grandparents, however far back the line, they came to the United States for the opportunities that it provides.
[80:22] Scott Slaugh: block anybody from being able to seek the American dream.
[80:29] Scott Slaugh: We love America and we recognize that people all over the world also recognize how great America is and they want to be here.
[80:39] Scott Slaugh: We do have laws, though, and we wouldn't want criminals here.
[80:46] Scott Slaugh: We wouldn't want violent individuals here that are
[80:51] Scott Slaugh: We wouldn't want people here taking advantage of the system.
[80:55] Scott Slaugh: We wouldn't want people here defrauding the government and taking advantage of it and costing us, you know,
[81:06] Scott Slaugh: I don't know how much is an individual, but government's millions or billions of dollars.
[81:14] Scott Slaugh: I mean, how much exactly that happens, I don't really know.
[81:17] Scott Slaugh: But I think we learn, we're seeing more and more how there really are problems in some of the systems.
[81:25] Scott Slaugh: And I think we have big problems in the immigration systems that we have in general.
[81:32] Scott Slaugh: But we definitely want to control immigration.
[81:35] Scott Slaugh: uh the the criminal aspects of of any of the immigration problems that we have and i know a lot of people would say well the first problem that we have is somebody is in the united states illegally is they've illegally entered the united states so right off the bat they're they're a criminal and i recognize that and i understand that and i don't disagree that you know entering the united states illegally is
[82:01] Scott Slaugh: And so you're immediately guilty of a crime.
[82:04] Scott Slaugh: But I think what you're talking about, and I think the bigger concerns would be if they're here and they're trafficking drugs or trafficking other humans, you know, being much more nefarious kind of criminals than just having crossed the border illegally, though that is not right.
[82:19] Scott Slaugh: And they should not have done that to start with.
[82:22] Scott Slaugh: So, yeah, the big problems are the things I think most people would agree on are the big problems and that we want to we want to solve.
[82:29] Kim Monson: And we can focus on that, agree on that, and then we can address this other situation as well.
[82:41] Kim Monson: First of all, the bill, House Bill 26-1276, where is that in the process now, Representative Slaugh?
[82:51] Scott Slaugh: So it was in the Finance Committee last week, if I have the dates correct.
[82:58] Scott Slaugh: So it's still in the House, in House Finance.
[83:01] Scott Slaugh: So it's still in the House side of the legislature, just working its way through.
[83:06] Scott Slaugh: I think that it needs to go to, it's been sent to the Appropriations Committee next.
[83:12] Scott Slaugh: I don't think that there is a date for that yet.
[83:15] Scott Slaugh: So it's through two of three steps before it even comes to the House floor.
[83:20] Scott Slaugh: So it's still pretty early on in where it is, but
[83:24] Scott Slaugh: Uh, I, I expect that we'll hear it on the house floor probably next week or, or soon.
[83:35] Scott Slaugh: It's early on and it's many stages that it will have to go through.
[83:39] Kim Monson: And even though the fiscal note is, in the scheme of things, not huge, we at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers do not like it when they start to chip away at our TABOR refunds.
[83:51] Kim Monson: And that's one of the things that this does, $131,643.
[83:56] Kim Monson: But a little here, a little there becomes a lot.
[83:59] Kim Monson: And one other thing before we go to break, and we're going to want to talk about some of the other bills that you're thinking about, but
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[87:14] Kim Monson: We had just a little bit of technical difficulty going into the break, and I don't think that the question that I wanted to, or the point I wanted to make with the representative flaw is, representative flaw, I find it so interesting that there are some representatives that basically,
[87:32] Kim Monson: are for open borders, sanctuary policies.
[87:36] Kim Monson: But yet I find it so ironic or incongruent with the fact that you have to go through security to get into the Capitol.
[87:46] Kim Monson: And I just find that so interesting that they want an open border, but there's a border basically at the Capitol.
[88:00] Scott Slaugh: incongruencies out there that they probably wouldn't necessarily want to recognize.
[88:07] Scott Slaugh: I think you could talk about Second Amendment rights, gun control things.
[88:15] Scott Slaugh: You know, many people are protected by guns and they would probably be a little bit concerned if the good folks that are security here at the Capitol for us weren't armed.
[88:27] Scott Slaugh: yet they would be happy if many Coloradans weren't armed.
[88:31] Scott Slaugh: Yeah, I think there's a lot of incongruencies in some of the ideals of some of the folks here in the Capitol.
[88:44] Kim Monson: We've got about 10 minutes and wanted to go through some of the other pieces of legislation that you think should be on people's radar, Representative Slaugh.
[88:58] Scott Slaugh: There's been a number that have come through.
[89:02] Scott Slaugh: I lost count long ago of exactly how many bills we had coming through here.
[89:06] Scott Slaugh: But some of them that I have thought, well, I focus, I mean, I mentioned Second Amendment.
[89:12] Scott Slaugh: I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment.
[89:14] Scott Slaugh: I do believe that it is nationally what protects all of the rest of our
[89:23] Scott Slaugh: A couple of those bills that have come through, we had House Bill 1126, which was a bill that put a lot of regulations on dealers.
[89:35] Scott Slaugh: I think it's going to basically kill all of the home FFLs, maybe what you might call it, what you might call them.
[89:46] Scott Slaugh: It's going to just make it very difficult for them to be able to continue business
[89:50] Scott Slaugh: It makes it difficult for even larger manufacturers in the state of Colorado to continue to do business, of which I have a large one in Berthoud, Colorado that's in my district, and they're moving, I think they're moving to North Dakota here in the not-too-distant future just because of the climate for them to be able to do business here in Colorado.
[90:11] Scott Slaugh: And then the other problematic Second Amendment bill to me is Senate Bill 4004, which is just
[90:23] Scott Slaugh: It's going to make it so that entities, not just individuals, will be able to file red flag petitions on individuals, which that's difficult for me because now you no longer have an identifiable individual.
[90:40] Scott Slaugh: So a person could be frustrated at an organization and maybe it's a hospital or a healthcare system network.
[90:50] Scott Slaugh: And then they get frustrated and they target individuals who they know are members of that network, just not even for any good reason, but just because they are upset at the restrictions on their freedoms.
[91:06] Scott Slaugh: And who knows what the mental health state of that individual was and why that red flag was filed on them.
[91:12] Scott Slaugh: And if it was for a mental health reason, do we know for sure that they don't truly have some concerns that
[91:19] Scott Slaugh: that then are going to cause them to maybe act violently towards a random person associated with that organization.
[91:27] Scott Slaugh: It just causes lots of problems, and it isn't the right thing to do anyway.
[91:32] Scott Slaugh: There should be ways for, and there are ways, if people need to be separated from their firearms for some legitimate reason, whatever that might be determined by a judge to be,
[91:49] Scott Slaugh: let the courts decide that, not just individuals or entities.
[91:58] Scott Slaugh: And then maybe two others real quick, just to mention, and you can ask whatever ones you want, is House Bill 1322, which was the conversion therapy one, which came right on the heels of a Supreme Court decision.
[92:09] Scott Slaugh: And then the other one that we heard just last week, which I actually got messages about and people were
[92:15] Scott Slaugh: were frustrated with was the farm worker bill, which was Senate Bill 121, just allowing the overtime hour bill.
[92:27] Scott Slaugh: It allows particularly agricultural and farm workers to be able to work 56 hours without their employers having to pay overtime, which is not unreasonable to me, given the seasonal nature of a lot of the
[92:45] Scott Slaugh: Going back to maybe some of our earlier discussion about immigration stuff, the migrant workers that come here to work for agricultural seasons and then go home, that's something I grew up with around me a lot and is clearly something that is still of discussion these days.
[93:01] Scott Slaugh: So those are some bills that I know that are either super hot topics or recent hot topics that I've been paying attention to.
[93:11] Kim Monson: Well, and I, as the president of CUT, I had seen that
[93:15] Kim Monson: Phil come through regarding farm workers.
[93:18] Kim Monson: We didn't, we did not review that particular bill, but I grew up in Western Kansas and I come from a family of generations of farmers.
[93:27] Kim Monson: And, um, uh, I, I, people put in long, long hours in the farming and ranching communities, uh, during certain parts of the season.
[93:43] Kim Monson: government should not be in between the agreement between an employer's and employees.
[93:52] Kim Monson: That is something that should be negotiated between them without government involvement.
[93:58] Kim Monson: This is not the proper role of government to be doing this because it changes the market.
[94:07] Kim Monson: But what happens, even like with a minimum wage law, is what happens instead of
[94:13] Kim Monson: more and more people making more and more money, what happens is, is employers only have a certain pot that they can work with.
[94:20] Kim Monson: So they may automate, they may reduce the number of workers.
[94:26] Kim Monson: And so what happens is, is people many times will lose their jobs.
[94:31] Kim Monson: And so, again, that's not the proper role of government.
[94:34] Kim Monson: Let's go back to the red flag enhancement, I will say.
[94:42] Kim Monson: And I was a hard no on the first round regarding the red flag law.
[94:47] Kim Monson: And it's totally against the U.S. Constitution because, in essence, what can happen, Representative Slaugh, is somebody can be accused of there's concerns about them.
[95:04] Kim Monson: Well, I'll just say that there's concerns about them.
[95:08] Kim Monson: And the person doesn't even know that they're accused.
[95:11] Kim Monson: They could be off at work and law enforcement could come in and take all of their firearms unbeknownst to them.
[95:20] Kim Monson: So this is so unconstitutional all the way around.
[95:24] Kim Monson: And then adding in this enhancement of additional entities, such as I think schools, hospitals or whatever, again, this is unconstitutional.
[95:37] Kim Monson: Because the individual who's accused does not have the due process regarding their firearms, and they're not able to face their accuser representative's law.
[95:52] Scott Slaugh: And I actually ran a bill earlier in the session.
[95:54] Scott Slaugh: It was House Bill 1072, and it was the right to firearm possession and elimination of extreme risk protection orders.
[96:01] Scott Slaugh: So I was trying to repeal this law that we have on the books.
[96:05] Scott Slaugh: um the the chair of the committee that that it was heard in she was actually one of the house sponsors for the for senate bill for for the expansion of it uh so her and i disagreed on this and and she wanted to read the steps that had to be taken uh for for one of these erpos or extreme risk protection orders to be enforced
[96:27] Scott Slaugh: And I just don't think that she understood how it worked.
[96:30] Scott Slaugh: And there's literally a picture that you can find easily from one of the offices that studies this.
[96:36] Scott Slaugh: And I wanted to offer her the picture and say like, no, you're missing this piece right here.
[96:41] Scott Slaugh: And that is the piece where due process is violated and it isn't appropriate.
[96:45] Scott Slaugh: And it is not the way that it ought to be done.
[96:49] Scott Slaugh: Yeah, it's definitely, it's always been problematic.
[96:58] Scott Slaugh: federal and Colorado constitutional rights to be able to own and possess and to keep and bear arms.
[97:05] Scott Slaugh: And the due process part of it, that is the foul.
[97:17] Kim Monson: Well, and my opinion is to get rid of it.
[97:20] Kim Monson: So thank you for that piece of legislation.
[97:24] Kim Monson: What's your final thought on all this?
[97:25] Kim Monson: Representative Slaugh, and thank you for stepping forward to serve the people of Colorado.
[97:31] Scott Slaugh: My final thoughts are I am super grateful to be able to be here in this position.
[97:38] Scott Slaugh: I'm not doing this for any kind of fame and glory, and certainly not for any kind of money.
[97:45] Scott Slaugh: But I'm just happy to be able to serve the people of my district.
[97:51] Scott Slaugh: I've lived there my entire life outside of missionary service and military service and college.
[97:57] Scott Slaugh: And so I really consider it my home district as much as I consider it my house district.
[98:02] Scott Slaugh: The people that are there, they're my friends, they're my neighbors, they're my family, they're people that I love regardless of whether we necessarily agree on policy or not.
[98:11] Scott Slaugh: I'm happy to always talk to them at all times about anything and try to work to find the most common sense solutions to the problems that we have and to keep government from getting out of control.
[98:26] Scott Slaugh: You'll appreciate that this is to not spend the people's money.
[98:32] Scott Slaugh: We hear people say taxation is theft, and I would not disagree one bit.
[98:41] Scott Slaugh: That was one of the reasons that we stated in our Declaration of Independence is that taxation without consent was not acceptable to us as Americans.
[98:53] Scott Slaugh: Government needs to do its job, but not do all of the jobs that are not its job.
[99:01] Scott Slaugh: to make all of those things happen the best I can.
[99:04] Scott Slaugh: Hopefully we can have more people on my side of the aisle next year so that we can move a little bit closer to smart and common sense and good legislation and not as much of the extreme stuff that we see coming through.
[99:19] Kim Monson: Well, thank you, and this is Representative Scott Slaugh representing Colorado House District 64.
[99:29] Kim Monson: I think it's mid-May when this session ends, so it's fast in your seat belts, but Representative Slaugh, thank you so much.
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[102:27] Kim Monson: And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
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[102:30] Kim Monson: That is kimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com.
[102:34] Kim Monson: And several things coming in on the text message today.
[102:42] Kim Monson: And one listener said, using the word immigrant is confusing and makes it sound acceptable.
[102:49] Kim Monson: It is softening what an illegal alien actually is, which is illegal.
[102:53] Kim Monson: As you remind us frequently, words matter.
[102:57] Kim Monson: And yes, we do need to talk about illegal immigration.
[103:01] Kim Monson: And we've got a big, broad group of illegal immigrants to focus on.
[103:09] Kim Monson: And we can't do everything all at once.
[103:12] Kim Monson: And so let's focus on those that have come here to hurt us.
[103:17] Kim Monson: Those that are criminals in their country or doing criminal acts here, they need to leave.
[103:23] Kim Monson: And people that are living off of government programs, they need to leave.
[103:28] Kim Monson: And if people have come in through legal ways, and not saying that I totally agree with those particular laws, but if they've come in here and they are defrauding us, they need to leave.
[103:43] Kim Monson: And then once we get that taken care of, we can certainly focus on other things as well.
[103:49] Kim Monson: And, oh, this is a good question as well.
[104:05] Kim Monson: And she is, you can find her at Substack as the Reluctant
[104:17] Kim Monson: Well, thanks for making this work.
[104:18] Kim Monson: I know you've got a lot going on, but we wanted to talk about this one particular piece of legislation that's been signed into law regarding vaccines.
[104:34] Erin Meschke: This is the third time I've been on talking with your listeners about SB 2632, which
[104:42] Erin Meschke: So if you look at the final bill, there were some things that I don't know if they got added back in at the last moment or if I just didn't realize how they had some of these things worded.
[104:55] Erin Meschke: But the final bill, there's a number of points I'll just blow through really quickly.
[105:02] Erin Meschke: So the ledge deck says that, you know, vaccines should be available with no cost sharing, but there's no fiscal notes.
[105:10] Erin Meschke: associated with this for covering, they're basically just putting that all on the insurance companies, which, you know, the more things that they require coverage for, it raises insurance rates for all of us, right?
[105:24] Kim Monson: So then the insurance companies are also- But Erin, question on that.
[105:28] Kim Monson: Does that mean that people that are on Medicaid, that Medicaid has to pay for that?
[105:40] Erin Meschke: Another thing that's mentioned specifically in the bill is that insurance companies are required to cover the full cost of the HPV, the human papillomavirus shot vaccine, for recommended individuals, which is basically everyone over 10.
[106:01] Erin Meschke: They are recommending boosters later in college years and other things.
[106:08] Erin Meschke: coverage for the HPV vaccine is going to be required even if ACIP decides at some point in the future not to recommend the HPV shot on the federal schedule, which definitely makes it difficult for injury claims.
[106:27] Erin Meschke: That's the other problem that a lot of us have had with this bill is that they initially wanted to take away liability from manufacturers.
[106:38] Erin Meschke: of the bills for manufacturer liability, but there's still really broad liability protections for everyone else who's involved, the wholesalers, the pharmacists who now can give shots, the doctors, and really everyone except for the manufacturer.
[106:57] Erin Meschke: And if you can't, if you're not qualified for federal compensation with an injury because that shot is no longer valid,
[107:06] Erin Meschke: on the federal recommendations, then the state will end up kind of de facto as the liability protection.
[107:19] Erin Meschke: The number of HPV lawsuits for injuries, it's not insignificant.
[107:26] Erin Meschke: I think it's like $85 million or something that's already been paid out for proven claims.
[107:31] Erin Meschke: And there's a lot of things that get tossed out just because it's really hard to prove vaccine injury.
[107:36] Erin Meschke: Okay, so then a few more things that are in this bill.
[107:40] Erin Meschke: ACIP is removed and replaced by the CDPHE Board of Health for all vaccine recommendations.
[107:47] Erin Meschke: Naturopaths are required to offer vaccine schedules to parents of children from newborn to eight years old in order to be able to see and treat them.
[107:58] Erin Meschke: And for most naturopaths, they would actually not recommend vaccines or very limitedly, but they are going to be required to give the whole vaccine schedule as an option to all of their patients.
[108:12] Erin Meschke: Pharmacists can now prescribe any non-controlled substance, including vaccines, to anyone 12 years old or older.
[108:20] Erin Meschke: They don't have access to your full health records, and there's no requirement for parental consent.
[108:27] Erin Meschke: in that part of the legislation that was added to allow pharmacists to prescribe and give vaccines and other non-controlled substances.
[108:40] Erin Meschke: There's new rulemaking at the Board of Health for all these required updates, and those hearings are basically just a rubber stamp.
[108:50] Erin Meschke: says there's no liability for injury to an infant or child if the vaccine is administered according to the CDC schedule or Board of Health recommendations.
[108:59] Erin Meschke: So that is a liability protection that remained in the bill.
[109:03] Erin Meschke: Section 11 talks about liability for everyone except manufacturers, which I kind of covered before.
[109:10] Erin Meschke: So that's the health care policy and finance that they can buy and stockpile vaccines.
[109:17] Erin Meschke: specifically for the child immunization program.
[109:21] Erin Meschke: And then a new adult immunization act was created.
[109:26] Erin Meschke: And within that, the legislative declaration in the beginning of that new act says that vaccines are essential and manufacturers should be protected.
[109:43] Erin Meschke: with very broad definitions of what an immunizing agent is and a vaccine.
[109:47] Erin Meschke: And the Board of Health is going to establish an adult vaccine schedule with their own recommendations for what adults should be getting every year.
[109:58] Erin Meschke: So anytime that you have a new schedule like that being developed, you are at risk, at least in some amount of risk,
[110:13] Erin Meschke: We saw that during COVID where they were requiring shots for people and it's possible that an employer or a government agency could put a requirement on adults having their employment based on these things.
[110:31] Erin Meschke: So that's not currently in the legislation, but we just know the slippery slope that happens with some of these measures.
[110:41] Erin Meschke: the 20,000 foot view of this, uh, of this terrible law that isn't, um, now something that is officially part of Colorado statute.
[110:52] Kim Monson: Oh my gosh, Aaron, this is of great concern.
[110:56] Kim Monson: You, you can see the danger, danger.
[110:58] Kim Monson: I can see the danger, danger as well.
[111:00] Kim Monson: So thank you for sharing this with us.
[111:02] Kim Monson: And I know you've got a really busy morning, so thank you for making the time to, to bring this to light.
[111:11] Kim Monson: I guess what we need to do is we need to elect people that will then repeal this particular piece of legislation.
[111:18] Kim Monson: Erin Meschke, you can find her at Substack at the Reluctant Activist.
[111:22] Kim Monson: Thank you so much and have a great day.
[111:27] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is from St.
[111:31] Kim Monson: It says, Hope has two beautiful daughters.
[111:33] Kim Monson: Their names are Anger and Courage.
[111:35] Kim Monson: Anger is the way things are, and Courage is to see that they do not remain as they are.
[111:39] Kim Monson: So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[111:52] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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