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[02:00] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[02:07] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[02:10] Kim Monson: And it's not compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, these lives via force.
[02:19] Kim Monson: Force obviously can be a weapon, but it can be policy.
[02:22] Kim Monson: We're seeing that big time here in Colorado, in California policy that is making it so difficult for businesses to be in business that takes their opportunity, it takes their property.
[02:34] Kim Monson: So it could be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, this agenda by the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites, the United Nations.
[02:45] Kim Monson: We see it play out in the Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado Governor, these land use codes, zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, national monument designations.
[02:57] Kim Monson: The list goes on and on, but we're starting to peel that back a bit, at least at the federal level.
[03:03] Kim Monson: I'm so pleased to have in studio with me my friend.
[03:13] Kim Monson: Lots going on out there right now, Allen Thomas.
[03:17] Allen Thomas: Both here with the new legislation, and then also with President Trump and everything he's doing in his first two weeks.
[03:23] Kim Monson: He is certainly, I would say he's a disruptor right now.
[03:28] Allen Thomas: Yeah, and you know, we're going to talk about that in the second half of the show.
[03:32] Allen Thomas: But he came in and he knew what he wanted to do.
[03:35] Allen Thomas: And, you know, it might have been a little bit of a blessing, unbeknownst to all of us, to endure the last four years.
[03:41] Allen Thomas: But he has a mission and he is getting after it.
[03:52] Kim Monson: Yesterday, General Joe Arbuckle was on.
[03:54] Kim Monson: We talked about the military and the positive things that are happening there.
[04:01] Kim Monson: The O'Biden-Harrisadministration has put us in a very dangerous spot on the world stage.
[04:07] Kim Monson: And so there isn't a lot of time to take action.
[04:14] Allen Thomas: And he's creating that distinction pretty quick.
[04:16] Allen Thomas: I mean, it's pretty incredible to see as soon as the election happened, how quickly the international stage even changed, which should indicate to all of America the danger of this progressive ideology, like you said, of the prior administration.
[04:31] Allen Thomas: It truly is a battlefield of ideas, and it was almost immediate how the international community reacted to our election.
[04:45] Allen Thomas: Hamas, Israel, I mean, you saw it all the way down across Latin America.
[04:51] Allen Thomas: We see it in Europe with the Ukraine and Russia war.
[04:56] Allen Thomas: All of a sudden, they're like, hey, let's get back to the table.
[04:58] Allen Thomas: It truly, our ideas truly do have consequences.
[05:02] Allen Thomas: And for the ideas that we espouse, they're the right type of consequences.
[05:08] Kim Monson: And so we're in a remarkable time, a historic time.
[05:11] Kim Monson: So let's get into some of the things that we do every day.
[05:13] Kim Monson: First thing is the word of the day.
[05:16] Kim Monson: And I'm pulling this because Ross Clough yesterday, my fellow Liberty Toastmaster, was talking.
[05:25] Kim Monson: When I hear all these different ideas about things, we were talking about facts and opinion and propaganda and how to know the difference.
[05:34] Kim Monson: And he used the word juxtaposition.
[05:36] Kim Monson: And it could mean the actor in an instance of placing two or more things side by side, often to compare or contrast or to create an interesting effect.
[05:48] Kim Monson: Or number two, the fact of two things being seen or placed close together with contrasting effect.
[05:52] Kim Monson: And so it is spelled J- U-X-T-A-P-O-S-I-T-I-O-N.
[05:58] Kim Monson: And your challenge is to use juxtaposition in a sentence today.
[06:08] Allen Thomas: I didn't, but I do have a sentence for you with juxtaposition.
[06:11] Allen Thomas: It was interesting seeing the juxtaposition of two Democrats yesterday, one of them being interviewed, the other interviewing between RFK Jr.
[06:21] Allen Thomas: It was very interesting seeing that contrast side by side of some of the more common sense health realities that RFK Jr., a Democrat, has versus what the panel, what the Democrats on the panel were grilling him for.
[06:35] Allen Thomas: And the fact that he said, hey, you guys used to be my friends four years ago.
[06:40] Allen Thomas: It was very interesting seeing that juxtaposition.
[06:44] Kim Monson: And I tried to watch it, but I only caught some of the highlights.
[06:50] Allen Thomas: too, but it was very fascinating, you know, especially when you look at the evolution of the Democrat party and especially where it was in like the seventies and eighties and now what they're advocating for, for big pharma, for big tech, you know, it's kind of ironic that they have shifted so heavily, which was predictable.
[07:13] Allen Thomas: They're hand in hand with, with big companies because that's how you can regulate people.
[07:20] Kim Monson: We've got some Republicans that have have are being financed by some of this, these big pharma and big companies as well.
[07:29] Kim Monson: I don't think I saw it when I was watching and I did.
[07:35] Kim Monson: You could see the agenda of abortion and vaccine mandates and all that stuff with all of the questioning.
[07:44] Kim Monson: Do you think he's going to get confirmed?
[07:49] Allen Thomas: I mean, I think he definitely had some of the right answers.
[07:53] Allen Thomas: It's clear that that Donald Trump has talked to all of his nominees.
[07:58] Allen Thomas: You know, he learned his lesson from the first administration and he said, I'm going to get my people and I'm going to make sure my people understand my agenda.
[08:05] Allen Thomas: I thought RFK's answer about abortion was very interesting because he is pro- choiceon the record.
[08:12] Allen Thomas: But he said, no, we should not federally fund this.
[08:16] Allen Thomas: I found that very fascinating that he fully supports Trump's vision.
[08:20] Allen Thomas: And I hope he sticks to that because there are some ideas that RFK Jr.
[08:26] Kim Monson: It's going to be super interesting to watch all this.
[08:29] Kim Monson: And then also Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel had their confirmation hearings as well.
[08:36] Kim Monson: And I just saw a little bit of that.
[08:38] Kim Monson: Tulsi Gabbard is just, she's a real, I'd say a cool cucumber.
[08:44] Allen Thomas: And again, just like RFK Jr., I think the veil is being lifted about how dangerous our national apparatus can be when it can be turned against everyday people.
[09:00] Allen Thomas: When the whole thing about him being spied upon by the Obama administration came to light, everybody said, oh, okay, that's kind of worrisome.
[09:10] Allen Thomas: But then I saw her beginning speech when she said, hey, I was listed on this.
[09:17] Allen Thomas: I was, as soon as I started not walking lockstep with the Democrat Party, they turned the national apparatus against me.
[09:27] Allen Thomas: And that should really strike a fear in the heart of every American.
[09:30] Allen Thomas: Hey, if this can be turned against these politicians, don't kid yourself that can be turned against us as well.
[09:40] Kim Monson: And so to get this whole thing turned back, we truly, I believe we are in the third founding of our country.
[09:48] Kim Monson: And asking who we're really going to be.
[09:51] Kim Monson: And I know that you are stepping forward to do some things about that.
[09:54] Kim Monson: So we'll talk about that in a little bit.
[09:55] Kim Monson: Let's get over here, though, next to our quote of the day.
[10:01] Kim Monson: As you know, I go to the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values.
[10:06] Kim Monson: And the center is located in Pueblo, Colorado.
[10:09] Kim Monson: And one of the things that they do is they honor our Medal of Honor recipients.
[10:13] Kim Monson: They have their portraits of valor, which they are absolutely fabulous portraits with these quotes of our Medal of Honor recipients.
[10:22] Kim Monson: and that's over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients.
[10:26] Kim Monson: Today's quote, and you can get that book by going to AmericanValueCenter.
[10:39] Kim Monson: This was action taken during the Vietnam War, May 15, 1967, and it is a long citation.
[10:45] Kim Monson: So I'm going to read part of it, and I'm going to have you read part of it.
[10:52] Kim Monson: Kettles distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity while serving as flight commander, 176th Aviation Company, which is Air Mobile Light, the 14th Combat Aviation Battalion, and Maracle Division near Dufo, Republic of Vietnam.
[11:09] Kim Monson: On 15 May 1967, Major Kettles, upon learning that an airborne infantry unit had suffered casualties during an intense firefight with the enemy, immediately volunteered to lead a flight of six UH- 1Dhelicopters to carry reinforcements to the embattled force and to evacuate wounded personnel.
[11:28] Kim Monson: Enemy small arms, automatic weapons, and mortar fire raked the landing zone, inflicting heavy damage to the helicopters.
[11:38] Kim Monson: However, Major Kettles refused to depart until all helicopters were loaded to capacity.
[11:44] Kim Monson: He then returned to the battlefield with full knowledge of the intense enemy fire awaiting his arrival to bring more reinforcements, landing in the midst of enemy mortar and automatic weapons fire that seriously wounded his gunner and severely damaged his aircraft.
[12:01] Kim Monson: Upon departing, Major Kettles was advised by another helicopter crew that he had fuel streaming out of his aircraft.
[12:07] Kim Monson: Despite the risk posed by the leaking fuel, he nursed the damaged aircraft back to base.
[12:13] Kim Monson: Later that day, the infantry battalion commander requested immediate emergency extraction of the remaining 40 troops, including four members of Major Kettle's unit who were stranded when their helicopter was destroyed by enemy fire.
[12:28] Allen Thomas: With only one flyable UH- 1helicopter remaining, Major Kettle's volunteered to return to the deadly landing zone for a third time.
[12:36] Allen Thomas: leading a flight of six evacuation helicopters, five of which were from the 161st Aviation Company.
[12:43] Allen Thomas: During the extraction, Major Kettles was informed by the last helicopter that all personnel were on board and departed the landing zone accordingly.
[12:50] Allen Thomas: Army gunships supported the evacuation also departed the area.
[12:54] Allen Thomas: Once airborne, Major Kettles was advised that eight troops had been unable to reach the evacuation helicopters due to the intense enemy fire.
[13:01] Allen Thomas: With complete disregard for his own safety, Major Kettles passed the lead to another helicopter and returned to the landing zone to rescue the remaining troops.
[13:10] Allen Thomas: Without gunship, artillery, or tactical aircraft support, the enemy concentrated all firepower on his lone aircraft, which was immediately damaged by a mortar round that shattered both front windshields and the chin bubble and was further raked by small arms and machine gun fire.
[13:26] Allen Thomas: Despite the intense enemy fire, Major Kettles maintained control of the aircraft and situation, allowing time for the remaining eight soldiers to board the aircraft.
[13:35] Allen Thomas: In spite of the severe damage to his helicopter, Major Kettles once more skillfully guided his heavily damaged aircraft to safety.
[13:43] Allen Thomas: Without his courageous actions and superior flying skills, the last group of soldiers and his crew would never have made it off the battlefield.
[13:50] Allen Thomas: Major Kettles' selfless acts of repeated valor and determination are in keeping of the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself and the United States Army.
[14:06] Allen Thomas: And, you know, it's interesting how many of these are both courage and skill and knowing that, you know, they highlight it here at the end.
[14:16] Allen Thomas: He skillfully guided his heavily damaged helicopter.
[14:20] Allen Thomas: It's that combination of not reckless courage, but knowing courage, right?
[14:26] Allen Thomas: Knowing that I have the ability to do this and I'm going to do it.
[14:32] Kim Monson: But training, practice, hard work, all those things come into the skill and the courage.
[14:41] Kim Monson: And I recommend that you get the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values at AmericanValuesCenter.
[14:49] Kim Monson: He said, there is no price too high for an individual to pay that contributes to the preservation of this great nation.
[15:00] Kim Monson: And then the other thing I wanted to hit was our bill of the day.
[15:09] Kim Monson: It is, I didn't put the number on that.
[15:13] Kim Monson: It is the prohibition of cultivated meat, and Representative Ty Winter and Senator Rod Pelton are sponsors of that.
[15:23] Kim Monson: And I appreciate the spirit of protecting our beef industry because certainly it has been under attack, and that's real beef.
[15:33] Kim Monson: And so this is prohibiting fake beef, basically.
[15:37] Kim Monson: I understand it, but at Cut, we ended up taking a no position on this, and it really is that freedom answer.
[15:47] Kim Monson: And we were mixed on the issue between the free market and possible health risks, but ultimately our position came down to let the free market regulate this industry.
[15:57] Kim Monson: Because if we start to have government prohibit things, then they may get to the point where they may prohibit the things that we like as well, right?
[16:09] Allen Thomas: You know, and this was the other interesting highlight from that RFK Jr.
[16:14] Allen Thomas: He said, hey, if you want to buy McDonald's, that's fine, but let's allow the freedom of information so that the consumer knows what they're getting, right?
[16:23] Allen Thomas: He said, if you buy a cheeseburger from McDonald's, you should know how that's going to impact your health.
[16:29] Allen Thomas: And I think that's what CUT is saying here.
[16:31] Allen Thomas: You know, hey, we don't want the government telling us what we can and can't have.
[16:35] Allen Thomas: But at the same time, there should be something telling us, hey, this is what you're getting.
[16:40] Allen Thomas: And everyone should understand that this this beyond meat, all the additives, all the fillers that it has, it has a lot, you know, and it is concerning what it could actually do to your health.
[16:53] Allen Thomas: And, you know, as a as a longtime beef supporter, I mean, my father in law is a meat processor.
[16:58] Allen Thomas: So I definitely lucked out on the the family there to to marry into that.
[17:03] Allen Thomas: But, you know, there's great health benefits in beef.
[17:06] Allen Thomas: And the fact that this industry is under attack is pretty sad.
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[20:25] Kim Monson: Allen Thomas, my friend, is in studio.
[20:27] Kim Monson: He's an author here at the Kim Monson Show.
[20:30] Kim Monson: And pleased to have on the line Rich Guggenheim.
[20:35] Kim Monson: And I want to get his title close to correct.
[20:37] Kim Monson: He's the national director or liaison on all legislative stuff.
[20:44] Kim Monson: Give me the official title, Rich Guggenheim.
[20:50] Kim Monson: I was close, but it's for the complete country, right?
[21:00] Rich Guggenheim: We're tracking 336 bills in 32 states right now, plus we've got about a handful of them now we're working on federally.
[21:13] Kim Monson: So just quickly, before we get into the issue we wanted to talk with you about, what do you think about everything that Donald Trump is doing?
[21:23] Rich Guggenheim: But, you know, I was just talking the other day, I was talking with some people.
[21:33] Rich Guggenheim: To secure these freedoms, we have to do it through the legislative process.
[21:39] Rich Guggenheim: And ultimately, a lot of these issues come down to states' rights.
[21:42] Rich Guggenheim: And so we are going to have to fight to codify this legislatively at the state level in every single state and states like Colorado that don't want to play and protect girls sports and protect children from being mutilated.
[22:06] Kim Monson: So with that, you speak of legislation.
[22:09] Kim Monson: Colorado, I think, Rich Guggenheim, is at the tip of the spear on much of this.
[22:17] Kim Monson: And so Monday, there's a bill that's going to be run that you are very concerned about.
[22:25] Rich Guggenheim: Monday at the Capitol, if people can show up, I would appreciate that.
[22:28] Rich Guggenheim: It's the LGBT Lobby Day at the Capitol hosted by One Colorado.
[22:34] Rich Guggenheim: And Representative Lorena Garcia intends to introduce what she is calling the Transgender Bill of Rights.
[22:42] Rich Guggenheim: And I'm very concerned about that because when I look at what transgender rights really means, it means compelled speech.
[22:50] Rich Guggenheim: It means stripping women, females of their right to privacy and safety and fairness in sports.
[23:01] Rich Guggenheim: In fact, there's a couple of bills that they're running right now.
[23:04] Rich Guggenheim: That creates an interstate compact for Colorado to bring in foster care children into Colorado where they can receive gender- affirmingcare.
[23:18] Rich Guggenheim: It compels, like I said, it really comes down to stripping children of their freedom to grow up and live happy, healthy lives because we are enshrining protections into law to allow them access to these things.
[23:33] Rich Guggenheim: And, you know, children at that age don't have the logic center of the brain developed.
[23:37] Rich Guggenheim: They can't make these life- alteringdecisions and understand the complications and the consequences of doing something like this.
[23:47] Kim Monson: What's that bill number on that, Rich Guggenheim?
[23:51] Kim Monson: Do you have that at your fingertips?
[23:56] Rich Guggenheim: Are you talking about the ones for the foster care bill?
[24:04] Rich Guggenheim: The foster care are two new ones that just got introduced, and I do not have the bill at the fingertips on those.
[24:14] Rich Guggenheim: And then the transgender bill of rights, they're keeping that under lock and seal because they're having a big press conference on Monday to display it to the public.
[24:25] Kim Monson: So there's the strategies in all this.
[24:28] Kim Monson: And you think the sponsor, do you think you know who the sponsor is on that again?
[24:37] Kim Monson: When you and I were texting each other back and forth, you said you need to clone yourself.
[24:43] Rich Guggenheim: Well, so Monday morning while that's going on, Monday morning in Wyoming is also two bills that I've been working on with a legislator up there.
[24:54] Rich Guggenheim: and these bills will ban children from participating or viewing in adult cabaret style shows with purient intent.
[25:04] Rich Guggenheim: That's a fancy way of saying banning children from being able to view or participate in drag shows.
[25:09] Rich Guggenheim: And we're also going to make it so that libraries are not school, libraries are not allowed to and schools are not allowed to distribute material with adult content or sexual content and graphic content to children.
[25:30] Rich Guggenheim: I believe that schools and libraries and schools and classrooms and schools should be places that are educational.
[25:42] Rich Guggenheim: This is about making sure that they're learning and they're not being exposed to subjects and content that they simply cannot process at that age.
[25:58] Kim Monson: So what do you say, Rich Guggenheim, when you are accused of book banning?
[26:04] Rich Guggenheim: Well, first of all, my thought is that's ironic coming from people who try to silence me for simply saying that we should protect children's innocence.
[26:17] Rich Guggenheim: If you want to allow your child to read that kind of stuff, you can take them to the local bookstore and you can buy that book for them and you can check it out at the local library.
[26:30] Rich Guggenheim: This is literally saying children do not need to be exposed to pornography.
[26:44] Kim Monson: And when these images are impressed upon their brains, that's a lifelong thing.
[26:49] Kim Monson: And those that are pushing this agenda, they know that, Rich Guggenheim.
[26:56] Rich Guggenheim: And they know that this opens up the doors to other things.
[27:03] Rich Guggenheim: And I think it's done on purpose because I believe at the end of the day, this is what they want to do, is they want to desensitize our children to this type of material because it makes it so that they become easier victims for child sex predators.
[27:20] Kim Monson: So that brings up this one other thing that you mentioned.
[27:25] Kim Monson: And many years ago, I was on the board of Lutheran Family Services.
[27:28] Kim Monson: And I joined the board because I'd seen a very successful adoption process.
[27:32] Kim Monson: The other things, they were in the foster care business, the refugee resettlement.
[27:40] Kim Monson: But as I learned so much about our foster children, our foster kids really are at risk.
[27:46] Kim Monson: And what I am hearing with this foster bill that's going to be coming down the pike here is these kids, I think, are going to be real victims because you really need to have adults that are standing in the gap for these children.
[28:08] Kim Monson: and if, in fact, we're going to be bringing foster children into Colorado to push the trans agenda.
[28:16] Kim Monson: This is really heartbreaking to me, Rich Guggenheim.
[28:22] Rich Guggenheim: And, you know, I'll tell you what breaks my heart about it is last year they already passed, I believe it was House Bill 1017, that really infringed upon the freedoms of foster parents.
[28:35] Rich Guggenheim: You know, you're not allowed to basically parent and guide those children in any kind of way.
[28:43] Rich Guggenheim: You're just basically there to rephrase what Representative Brian Titone said.
[28:49] Rich Guggenheim: You're basically there to just provide a shelter for those children and to warehouse them for the state.
[28:55] Rich Guggenheim: And I just, you know, this is what we've basically done is we've dehumanized these children under the guise of being inclusive.
[29:07] Rich Guggenheim: These are children, a lot of times they come from situations where there's a lot of dysfunction in the house.
[29:15] Rich Guggenheim: They're dealing with some sort of emotional trauma and they need guidance and they need nurturing, and they need those parents that can help teach them right from wrong.
[29:27] Rich Guggenheim: And this is just to me, the fact that we're taking vulnerable children And it's literally, in my opinion, it's predatory.
[29:34] Rich Guggenheim: And it is a form of human trafficking because we're bringing them across state lines.
[29:39] Rich Guggenheim: And then we're going to send them off to some medical clinic where they're going to be mutilated and sterilized under the idea of being inclusive and affirming.
[29:49] Kim Monson: Rich Guggenheim, if you would have in the old days said an enemy comes into the, you know, into the town and they say, hey, give me your kids.
[29:59] Kim Monson: We're going to cut off the girl's breasts, cut off the boy's penises.
[30:02] Kim Monson: But that is exactly what is happening right now in our society.
[30:06] Kim Monson: And I thank you for stepping forward, stepping into the gap on this.
[30:10] Kim Monson: I know you can use help because you're traveling around doing a variety of things.
[30:14] Kim Monson: How can people help you, Rich Guggenheim?
[30:17] Rich Guggenheim: If they want to help, they can always go to our website, GaysAgainstGroomers.
[30:26] Rich Guggenheim: We need people to step up and fight for their children.
[30:29] Rich Guggenheim: If you don't have time to step up and fight to protect your children at the Capitol, you're going to have to find time later to step up and fight for them in court, because the state is coming for your children.
[30:39] Rich Guggenheim: I really believe that we're going to see a lot more of that with this transgender bill of rights.
[30:44] Rich Guggenheim: If you don't want to speak and testify, just show up to support those who do.
[30:48] Rich Guggenheim: And I'll tell you, Kim, if you've ever been at the Capitol, it's a dark place.
[30:52] Rich Guggenheim: It's spiritually draining because this is spiritual warfare.
[30:56] Rich Guggenheim: If you're one of the people who believe in prayer, please come to the capitol and pray.
[31:03] Rich Guggenheim: Pray for the people who are speaking and testifying, because this is something that requires a lot of energy and it is, like I said, it's a spiritual warfare and it is emotionally, spiritually and physically exhausting to be in the capitol.
[31:17] Kim Monson: Well, rich guggenheim, thank you for stepping into the gap on this.
[31:20] Kim Monson: I greatly appreciate it and we will need to get an update again very soon.
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[34:23] Kim Monson: So you are an author here at the Kim Monson Show, and you are running, you're running for an office.
[34:30] Kim Monson: And I actually got an email from someone that is endorsing you, and they had a great description of much of the work that you've done with us and your essays, which are awesome.
[34:41] Kim Monson: So tell us a little bit about this.
[34:43] Allen Thomas: Well, Kim, I have to also say thank you to you for giving me complete editorial control over everything that I do.
[34:51] Allen Thomas: I know sometimes I kind of surprise you with some of the content, but we always have good conversations.
[34:57] Allen Thomas: But yeah, I'm running for first vice chair for the Douglas County GOP.
[35:01] Allen Thomas: And, you know, one of the things that we're severely lacking in our country is civic education.
[35:09] Allen Thomas: And that's what I try and get across a lot on the show is not only talking about, but also trying to teach these foundational principles to people that are receptive to them, but also maybe to sometimes people who aren't, you know, I had that piece, Accidental Conservatives about Taylor Swift and some of the Disney movies of, you know, hey, there's a fundamental truth to what we believe in.
[35:34] Allen Thomas: And when we just talk about that truth, it's going to come through and we're slowly going to start to win people over.
[35:38] Allen Thomas: So, and you know, when I first started the show, you always called me a millennial right.
[35:44] Allen Thomas: That was something I always kind of pushed back on.
[35:48] Allen Thomas: But you know, when you look at a lot of the GOP in Colorado, there's a severe lack of millennial involvement and a lot of that is the infighting.
[36:00] Allen Thomas: A lot of that is just not creating an atmosphere that's welcoming to millennials and we're going to be the next generation of leadership.
[36:08] Allen Thomas: And if we don't start bringing those people into our party, if we don't start bringing the next generations in and teaching them and influencing them, we're going to be in a world of hurt here in Colorado, and we already are.
[36:20] Kim Monson: I am seeing a number of young millennial men, particularly, and I really think that the straight Caucasian millennial man has been at the bottom of the food chain, if you will, on so many different things.
[36:38] Kim Monson: And I think that it's been very refreshing from what I've seen looking outside in.
[36:44] Kim Monson: Joe Rogan has been really influential, I think, in this particular arena.
[36:49] Kim Monson: And of course, apparently, Barron Trump had recommended to Donald Trump to go on the Joe Rogan show.
[36:56] Kim Monson: And you can't hide in a three-hour interview.
[37:00] Kim Monson: I think that's why Kamala Harris didn't do it.
[37:01] Kim Monson: But I think that there are forces out there that are moving towards our conservative, preserving our ideas, this idea of America that we're all created equal with rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
[37:20] Kim Monson: And I really think that we can coalesce around those ideas.
[37:24] Kim Monson: We just have to be able to communicate them.
[37:28] Allen Thomas: And that's part of what's going on in the GOP here in Colorado is this purity litmus test, right?
[37:36] Allen Thomas: This inability to influence people and persuade them and instead beat them over the head with a stick and say, you're not doing good enough.
[37:47] Allen Thomas: And that's ineffective at getting our message out because, like you said, it's not persuasive.
[37:56] Allen Thomas: And that's something we've talked about a lot, these three civic virtues of self-assertion, self-restraint, and self-reliance.
[38:04] Allen Thomas: And we're starting to see the Joe Rogans, the other straight white males say, no, I need to assert myself.
[38:10] Allen Thomas: I need to step out here because if I'm not willing to stand up for myself, how can I expect my kids to stand up for themselves?
[38:17] Allen Thomas: And how am I supposed to protect my children if I'm unable or unwilling to speak up and protect those who need to be protected?
[38:29] Allen Thomas: And that's some of the brilliance of what Donald Trump is doing in these first two weeks.
[38:36] Allen Thomas: And one of the first things I talked about was the rhetoric involved in a lot of his executive orders is quite honestly brilliant.
[38:46] Allen Thomas: You know, we talked about the gays against groomers with Rich Guggenheim.
[38:50] Allen Thomas: And one of the executive orders that is just a rhetorical masterpiece is his defending women from gender ideological extremism and restoring biological truth to the federal government.
[39:07] Allen Thomas: Like the fact that he said biological truth, the fact that you can't escape from truth and that he's restoring it and he's protecting people from their ideology extremism can't be highlighted enough.
[39:22] Allen Thomas: It can't be highlighted enough that we are not the party of extremes.
[39:33] Allen Thomas: I mean, the fact that we have to have an executive order saying men are men, women are women, and you can't pretend to be one or the other shows us how far we've gone as a culture.
[39:46] Allen Thomas: But it also should give us Republicans the ability to assert ourselves in the public sphere and say, you know what?
[39:59] Allen Thomas: We're not going to bend our language to make you happy.
[40:02] Allen Thomas: We're going to start speaking truth and we're going to start standing up and saying enough is enough.
[40:10] Allen Thomas: And I'm not going to be scared to assert myself anymore.
[40:14] Kim Monson: So, Alan, one of the things and you mentioned this and this is where I've I've struggled.
[40:23] Kim Monson: And what is, and as the president of cut, and also even before and when I was on city council, I really think that there were those that were on city council at that time.
[40:38] Kim Monson: In douglas county, you had to have an r behind your name to get elected, but when I got onto city council, I saw an agenda regarding the transit regarding these apartment buildings.
[40:50] Kim Monson: You can look at lone tree and you can see the World Economic Forum agenda with all of these apartment buildings and transit.
[40:56] Kim Monson: And so I was scratching my head because I thought people were honest if they said they were Republican, that they adhered to these this big picture values of our country.
[41:08] Kim Monson: But yet, and it's on both sides of the aisle, but I really think that there are some people and I see even down at the legislature with a few Republicans, they are pushing a Democrat agenda.
[41:23] Kim Monson: And you can kind of look at the money.
[41:25] Kim Monson: Some of them have been supported by Kent Theory, who he really wants to mess with our elections.
[41:32] Kim Monson: Because when I look at legislation, they're doing Democrat stuff.
[41:40] Allen Thomas: One of the things you've kind of, one of your rules that you've kind of had for a long time is you'll call out actions, not people.
[41:50] SPEAKER_09: Right.
[41:51] Allen Thomas: And that's what CUT does is, you know, when we were talking about this prohibition on cultivated meat, you talked about the bill and why the bill is a bad idea.
[42:00] Allen Thomas: Instead of talking about, oh, we have representatives who have absolutely abandoned us.
[42:09] Allen Thomas: You're calling out the bill, which is absolutely the right way to go about it.
[42:12] SPEAKER_09: Okay.
[42:13] Allen Thomas: Is calling out the actions and attacking the ideas and saying, here's why this idea may not necessarily fall in line.
[42:22] Allen Thomas: Here's the danger of this idea, as opposed to calling out the person.
[42:28] Kim Monson: And I have to say, the two sponsors on that bill are representatives that I, my experience with them has really been that they really work to do the right thing.
[42:40] Allen Thomas: Ty Winter and Rod Pelton are, I mean, they're in a very thankless position right now in Colorado.
[42:48] Allen Thomas: But like you said, this bill may not be one of them.
[42:51] Allen Thomas: Because again, if you're giving the permission for the state to say no to one thing, you're opening up the doors.
[42:57] Allen Thomas: Which is, ironically, the second part of the article I talk about is the executive orders and national emergencies.
[43:05] Kim Monson: Okay, well, let's talk about that when we come back.
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[46:01] Kim Monson: Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
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[46:13] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[46:20] Kim Monson: You shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[46:25] Kim Monson: And we are going to be, within the next six to eight weeks, rolling out something that's going to be super great.
[46:33] Kim Monson: You and I are going to be working together on that.
[46:37] Kim Monson: But you are running for an office on the Douglas County GOP ticket.
[46:46] Kim Monson: Tell us just a little bit more about that.
[46:50] Allen Thomas: I think credentialing starts at 5, so make sure and get there early.
[46:55] Allen Thomas: It's supposed to start at 6, but as you know, on those sorts of things, the start time is kind of dependent on how quickly they can check people in.
[47:02] Allen Thomas: So running for first vice chair, so the roles of that is communication, which fits pretty well into the wheelhouse here, but then also fundraising.
[47:17] Allen Thomas: district captains, assistant district captains, and then elected officials within the county.
[47:23] Allen Thomas: So you should have gotten a call to order if you are allowed to vote in that.
[47:27] Allen Thomas: And then at that, you're electing the Douglas County officers, but then also district captains.
[47:33] Allen Thomas: So, you know, holding your district captains accountable and making sure that they're doing what's right by the party as well.
[47:46] Kim Monson: We'll have our teaser for your essay that we will feature in the email this week and on the website.
[47:50] Kim Monson: So let's talk a little bit more about it.
[47:58] Allen Thomas: And, you know, Rich actually kind of had a pretty good lead in on it as well about the fact that some of these executive orders are good, but the work's not done.
[48:07] Allen Thomas: And- and this is one thing we've now seen twice within four years- is a president come into office and use executive order to completely obliterate all of the work that was done.
[48:21] Allen Thomas: You know, Joe Biden on day one basically said, hey, I'm going to take all of Trump's first term and write all of his executive orders away.
[48:30] Allen Thomas: And appropriately, Trump did the same this time around.
[48:34] Allen Thomas: But like Rich said, that's not good enough.
[48:38] Allen Thomas: This ruling by executive order, this massive transition in the direction of our government isn't healthy for citizens.
[48:46] Allen Thomas: It's not healthy for us on the international stage.
[48:50] Allen Thomas: And so Trump and the Republicans in Congress really need to sit down and do some quick work, like they've shown with with the bill that they've already passed, but they need to codify a lot of these executive orders through Congress.
[49:04] Allen Thomas: Do it the right way, do it the long-term way, and the Republicans in Congress need to get behind a lot of these actions and and support it, which you know we've seen a lot of.
[49:14] Allen Thomas: We've seen a lot more support from Congress than we saw that first term of Trump's.
[49:18] Allen Thomas: You know where, where Congress in large part fought Trump.
[49:22] Allen Thomas: But this second time around, I think these representatives and senators are seeing, Hey, I'm in my position now because of, because of president Trump, because of his vision, because people are saying, we need that.
[49:36] Allen Thomas: And so they need to be motivated, especially these first two years to really codify these executive orders into the congressional, go through the bill process and do it the right way.
[49:46] Allen Thomas: That way, when the pendulum swings again, whether that's in four years or eight years or hopefully longer, but when another progressive Democrat gets into office, they can't just use the pen in the office.
[50:00] Allen Thomas: of president to completely change the course of our country.
[50:05] Kim Monson: And I think this is an opportunity for congressmen and women senators to make the case, as you mentioned, to stay on these issues.
[50:16] Kim Monson: So regarding these deportations have been, they've been pretty amazing to watch.
[50:21] Kim Monson: But the immigration system is broken.
[50:25] Kim Monson: They say all the time the immigration system is broken.
[50:29] Kim Monson: But many times they don't want to make the hard decisions because they want to get reelected.
[50:34] Kim Monson: I think that they can actually make the case for the good idea.
[50:39] Kim Monson: And I would encourage them to have the courage to do so.
[50:43] Allen Thomas: And this is where we as citizens can come into play and say, listen, you need to do this.
[50:50] Allen Thomas: I voted you in to support this idea that Trump is saying around immigration.
[50:58] Allen Thomas: This is why we voted you in and really show your elected representatives: hey, the reason you're going to get voted in in two years, or in six years for senators, is because you're going to do the hard work and do the change and do the things that you don't think is popular.
[51:17] Allen Thomas: So basically, we need to show our elected representatives, it is popular, it is a path to reelection.
[51:21] Allen Thomas: And we need to support them in that and use our voice to say, hey, I want you to get after this, I want you to do that.
[51:27] Allen Thomas: I want you to, you know, instead of Donald Trump needing to declare a national emergency around energy or around the southern border, I don't want the executive to have so much power that they declared national emergencies just to do their job.
[51:42] Allen Thomas: This is something Congress should say, okay, this is popular.
[51:46] Allen Thomas: This national emergency around energy is popular.
[51:48] Allen Thomas: We need to make sure that the next president can't undo what we are currently doing.
[51:56] Kim Monson: And that makes me, I had a headline here that I had wanted to mention to you.
[52:01] Kim Monson: This was climate change overestimated.
[52:05] Kim Monson: New data shows oceans are cooling the planet faster than predicted.
[52:08] Kim Monson: And so we can get into this battle of idea.
[52:14] Kim Monson: Of course, I should mention a climate conversation.
[52:16] Kim Monson: That's a great segue for the documentary that Walt Johnson, it was his vision and he financed.
[52:22] Kim Monson: Because I think people are realizing reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy allows us to power our lives, fuel our hopes and dreams.
[52:35] Kim Monson: We can change our own personal climate.
[52:38] Kim Monson: We can be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.
[52:41] Allen Thomas: And I love that because between my two kids, they have very different climates that they appreciate in their rooms.
[52:51] Kim Monson: But we're going to focus on the issues.
[52:53] Kim Monson: The other thing, though, is it's almost like they are just flooding the zone here in Colorado.
[53:03] Kim Monson: So with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and we'd really encourage that you join us.
[53:07] Kim Monson: We've got something very exciting, I think, that's going to happen here quite very soon.
[53:14] Kim Monson: But as of this morning, we have a total of 266 bills that are proposed.
[53:27] Kim Monson: One of the first things is be a member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[53:31] Kim Monson: But they're flooding the zone on this.
[53:33] Allen Thomas: Well, and that's one of the things, again, I think the county party should be doing a better job of is helping educate Republican voters throughout the county, throughout the state and saying we have such great resources.
[53:46] Allen Thomas: You know what what cut does, what you do on the show, what our representatives do.
[53:51] Allen Thomas: You know, most of the representatives have their own newsletter saying, here's what we're trying to do.
[53:56] Allen Thomas: You know, we have the Independence Institute pushing out stuff.
[53:59] Allen Thomas: It's getting these resources into the hands of Republican voters saying, hey, you know, talk to your friends, talk to your neighbors, talk to your coworkers and show them this is the crazy that's going on at the state house.
[54:15] Allen Thomas: This is the stuff that forces you to have to be involved.
[54:19] Allen Thomas: You know, a lot of times people say, I don't want to be involved in politics.
[54:24] Allen Thomas: And it's even more messy when you don't get involved, when you don't speak up, when you don't use your voice.
[54:33] Allen Thomas: We want to say yes to so much freedom, to allowing you to live your life, to get the government out of its proper, out and into its proper role.
[54:44] Allen Thomas: And we need to allow Republican voters the strength and the opportunity to say, hey, you know, this is what they're doing.
[54:56] Kim Monson: And I think that's the way that we will bring unaffiliated voters into the fold because I think we can coalesce around this idea of freedom, liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom.
[55:09] Kim Monson: This is a great piece that you've written and spot on.
[55:14] Kim Monson: Now, you're going to stay for the next hour?
[55:22] Allen Thomas: the last bit of the articles about how he talked about the forgotten Alaska.
[55:27] Allen Thomas: So make sure and read the article, read what he's trying to do with that and the renaming of Mount McKinley.
[55:33] Allen Thomas: And, you know, just this is our opportunity.
[55:42] Allen Thomas: Be out there and make sure and support your representatives and your senators and really back them, because they're doing a pretty thankless job down there at the Capitol.
[55:53] Allen Thomas: And as we well know, negative comments linger in your mind a lot longer than positive ones.
[55:59] Allen Thomas: And we really need to flood the zone of their inboxes saying, keep up the good work, keep fighting the fight, keep up with those late nights down at the Capitol trying to oppose these horrible, awful bills and we have your back.
[56:15] Kim Monson: Thank you for the work that you're doing.
[56:16] Kim Monson: and our quote for the end of the show, I went to Thucydides, a Greek philosopher.
[56:21] Kim Monson: He said this, happiness depends on being free and freedom depends on being courageous.
[56:26] Kim Monson: So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
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[58:12] Kim Monson: Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting.
[58:18] Kim Monson: How is that software update going for you, Producer Joe?
[58:21] Producer Joe: It's a headache and a half, but it always is when you change the software.
[58:26] Producer Joe: And it's kind of neat, but it's definitely going to take some practice getting used to it.
[58:34] Kim Monson: We were talking about that in between breaks.
[58:36] Kim Monson: You said, what's this about a software update?
[58:41] Allen Thomas: You know you have to do it, but you don't want to, and it hurts right when you do.
[58:47] Producer Joe: And having to relearn everything because everything is so new now is just a headache and a half.
[58:55] Kim Monson: I love the fact that Crawford Broadcasting, independent broadcasting company, is working to keep us right on the forefront.
[59:05] Kim Monson: I got to see if I find there had been.
[59:06] Kim Monson: George Soros apparently had purchased a bunch of radio stations.
[59:11] Kim Monson: And had you seen that by any chance?
[59:16] Allen Thomas: I haven't, but it doesn't sound surprising whatsoever.
[59:21] Kim Monson: Now, probably back in twenty twenty four.
[59:27] Kim Monson: This is September 30th, twenty twenty four.
[59:30] Kim Monson: He purchased Odyssey radio stations.
[59:34] Kim Monson: And, of course, that's really of great concern.
[59:38] Kim Monson: And so anyway, my point is, it's great to have some independent broadcasters out there, Allen Thomas.
[59:49] Allen Thomas: And isn't it funny that when a Democrat progressive supporter buys stations, nothing's said.
[59:54] Allen Thomas: But heaven forbid if Elon Musk buys Twitter and says, hey, I'll allow people to talk, you know, the whole left goes crazy that that these mega billionaires are buying up communication waves and Internet and all of this.
[60:12] Allen Thomas: There seems to be a double standard here that is difficult to get around.
[60:15] Allen Thomas: And, you know, we talked about the things Trump was doing in his first couple of weeks.
[60:21] Allen Thomas: What about him opening up the press room to a lot of the smaller news outlets and the independent news outlets?
[60:31] Kim Monson: And I saw this on one of the evening shows.
[60:33] Kim Monson: And this is from the Post Millennial.
[60:36] Kim Monson: But it says, a radio station owned by George Soros reported the live locations of undercover immigration customs and enforcement agents operating in San Jose, California, an area known for violent gang activity.
[60:50] Kim Monson: And it says the incident occurred on January 26th when KCBS 740 AM radio host Brett Burkar, let's see if I can get to the rest of this here, had actually warned about these ICE raids.
[61:09] Kim Monson: And you didn't see that on the mainstream media, did you?
[61:15] Allen Thomas: But, you know, one of the things I'm loving about the new secretary of position, I forget his name, but he's basically saying, nope, we're going to come after these violent criminals.
[61:27] Allen Thomas: And I mean, we saw it right away here in Colorado.
[61:30] Allen Thomas: All of a sudden, hey, we're going to go get these guys that are invading apartments.
[61:36] Allen Thomas: I mean, what an incredible testament to Trump going out, getting the people that will support his vision and also enforce the rule of law.
[61:44] Allen Thomas: Yeah, it does have consequences when the president is able to say, I have this authority by Congress given to me, and I'm going to use it.
[61:54] Allen Thomas: And it just shows how awful President Biden and Obama were in saying, no, I'm not going to do my just duty.
[62:02] Kim Monson: And I've got the rest of the story here.
[62:09] Kim Monson: Radio host Brett Burkhart described the unmarked vehicles being used by ICE in the exact locations where ICE agents had been operating.
[62:15] Kim Monson: Just think how that really puts them into danger.
[62:19] Kim Monson: And he was relaying information posted to social media by the Rapid Response Network, a leftist group that fights deportation initiatives.
[62:27] Kim Monson: News Nation confirmed on January 27 that ICE was conducting operations in the area at that time, meaning the host potentially blew the agent's cover and put them in danger.
[62:39] Allen Thomas: And again, one of the sentences that Biden commuted was an individual that came up and shot law enforcement officers, point blank.
[62:50] Allen Thomas: So, you know, it's no surprise that the left is against our law enforcement community.
[62:55] Allen Thomas: And we really need to come alongside them and say, no, we support the rule of law.
[63:03] Kim Monson: And so we'll stay on top of some of these stories that you're not hearing out there every place else.
[63:10] Kim Monson: Two things, our word of the day is juxtaposition.
[63:16] Kim Monson: It means the act or instance of placing two or more things side by side, often to compare or contrast.
[63:22] Kim Monson: And then our quote of the day was from our Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values.
[63:31] Kim Monson: This came in from Dave, who is a retired United States Air Force.
[63:37] Kim Monson: He said, and what you and I did, and you can hear this in the one to two hour, he said, your Medal of Honor segment today was incredible.
[63:44] Kim Monson: That kind of valor is, well, I cannot find the word to describe it.
[63:48] Kim Monson: I'll be buying the book, making donation and visiting the center soon.
[63:53] Kim Monson: Long overdue donation is coming to you as well.
[64:01] Allen Thomas: And I love being here on Fridays when we can read the Medal of Honor citations and really hear about these courageous men and women who truly have put their lives on the line for our freedom.
[64:15] Kim Monson: And it's important to keep these stories alive and honor them.
[64:20] Kim Monson: And that's why I so appreciate the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado, and definitely put it on your bucket list to visit them.
[64:28] Kim Monson: And a day that you might want to do that is February 12th, a Wednesday, beginning at 4 4 p.
[64:35] Kim Monson: Excuse me, and they will be doing an on values presentation with Drew, founder of the center for American values.
[64:43] Kim Monson: He was stationed in Greenland for a number of years.
[64:46] Kim Monson: The the title of the presentation is the real cold war, which Greenland can be a little cold, and so you might want to check that out at American value center.
[64:56] Kim Monson: orgyou mentioned it's Friday so what that means it's Jim May Friday.
[65:01] Kim Monson: Jim May, cattleman with Lavaca Meat.
[65:05] Jim May: Hey, good morning, Kim.
[65:08] Jim May: And is that Allen Thomas?
[65:09] Jim May: I hear his voice behind you.
[65:15] Allen Thomas: It's a Friday and hopefully we'll hear some poetry here soon, right?
[65:21] Jim May: Okay, I'll see what I can do there.
[65:23] Jim May: So it's been quite a week here and I, you know, this plane crash and and uh, I'm just gosh.
[65:30] Jim May: Uh, you know, I and I was listening to your show.
[65:36] Jim May: I was telling joe, I was in the in my workout room on the treadmill listening to your show.
[65:39] Jim May: Uh, really liking that stuff about that you just talked about, of course, about the army and everything.
[65:47] Jim May: Uh yeah, these these people that are are being interviewed for the cabinet, or they've been really interesting to watch.
[65:55] Jim May: You know, I'm in and out on them.
[65:57] Jim May: I'm kind of like you guys.
[65:58] Jim May: I watch them all the time.
[66:00] Jim May: But awfully good people, I think, around the president and his cabinet this time, and I'm glad to see the debate out there.
[66:09] Jim May: I'm glad to see the strength of this man to just stand up and say where he's at.
[66:15] Jim May: There's transparency in everything that we're seeing, which is really refreshing after what's I don't know, we've had this plane crash two or three months ago, and they probably said, we don't know anything, we can't say anything, blah, blah, blah.
[66:29] Jim May: You feel like we, the people, are getting the information now, and the new press secretary, I think, is amazing.
[66:36] Jim May: And I'm just excited about this.
[66:40] Jim May: I'm probably saying too much.
[66:44] Jim May: Let's talk a little bit about meat, Kim.
[66:48] Kim Monson: And Lavaca Meat Company is a great protein source for your diet, but it tastes really good as well.
[66:56] Kim Monson: And if people use the word buffalo and they're in at Lavaca Meat Company, they'll get 10%off, right?
[67:02] Jim May: Yeah, we're going to do that, running right up to the Super Bowl here now.
[67:06] Jim May: And uh, you know, I hope maybe uh and somebody wanted a super bowl party.
[67:11] Jim May: My son does a slider thing.
[67:13] Jim May: He just takes the hawaiian buns and cuts them horizontally and I I think they, uh, he's got the recipe, but he ends up, uh, cooking the meat a little bit and he rolls the meat out in a flat thing and he cooks his hamburger and he slides it onto those buns, puts a little cheese and does each one differently, uh, so it's just one big piece of bread, puts the top on, put the cheese and sticks them back in and he bakes the meat for another two or three minutes and then you just take them out, come up and you got sliders for everybody.
[67:45] Jim May: Maybe I could put that out on your on your little line on uh, on the show there on your website.
[67:51] Jim May: I think that would be great.
[67:52] Kim Monson: We could put that in the show summary.
[67:53] Kim Monson: So, uh, and again, levaca meat companies, located at the corner of Maine and Nevada, and the website's levacameat.
[68:06] Jim May: You know, so I really haven't written anything.
[68:10] Jim May: I'm trying to get all these into my head, and I just got a couple calls on my phone, so this is going to be I'm hoping it's in my head by now.
[68:15] Jim May: I wrote, you know what I'm going to do is I'm going to make another poetry book, and next week is Super Bowl Sunday, and my first time on the show was the Friday before Super Bowl.
[68:27] Jim May: Oh, I have been here one whole year.
[68:31] Jim May: I've been here one year doing this stuff.
[68:33] Jim May: And I've written quite a few poems about holidays, as you know, and everything else.
[68:37] Jim May: How much time do we have?
[68:38] Jim May: I wanted to do this poem about woke is a joke, if I can still.
[68:45] Jim May: I don't know if it's in my head yet, but I refuse to be.
[68:49] Jim May: Let me think about it for just a second.
[68:53] Jim May: I refuse to be run over today by the left wing's latest fad.
[68:58] Jim May: I might be judged by what I say, but I'm not woke, so that's too bad.
[69:03] Jim May: I mostly mind my own business.
[69:06] Jim May: I'm as tolerant as any man, but I'm not going to drink a Bud Light with a drag queen on the can.
[69:16] Jim May: I've been farming and ranching for 50 years.
[69:22] Jim May: I'm not going to play their game.
[69:24] Jim May: Coors and Corona are pretty good beers.
[69:26] Jim May: At least they haven't gone insane.
[69:28] Jim May: This whole world is just upside down.
[69:31] Jim May: This whole world is just upside down.
[69:41] Jim May: The phone rang, and I don't have it in front of me.
[69:43] Jim May: I think the whole world now is upside down.
[69:44] Jim May: I can't believe my own two eyes.
[69:51] Jim May: Here comes a pack of lies.
[69:52] Jim May: They say they want to save the democracy.
[69:55] Jim May: I guess if he quits, that's a pretty good start.
[69:59] Jim May: They don't even need a primary.
[70:04] Jim May: Everybody knows he's really not that smart.
[70:07] Jim May: Kamala will be their choice.
[70:10] Jim May: It's her turn to wear the crown.
[70:11] Jim May: The mainstream media will be her voice.
[70:15] Jim May: You know, she never got one vote the first time around.
[70:20] Jim May: Let's see, she was elected because of DEI, diversity, equity and inclusion.
[70:24] Jim May: Her race and her gender will catch your eye, but the rest is just an illusion.
[70:29] Jim May: I hope we get this figured out right, because this is really no time to joke.
[70:34] Jim May: Today I will drink a cold Coors Light and may the good lord help you if you're woke.
[70:42] Jim May: And guys, I did not look at any paper on that, And my quest is to have all these things in my head and memorized.
[70:51] Jim May: And sometimes when you're talking to a lot of people on the radio or you're in a big ballroom or something, you know, they've got to be burned in there pretty good, kind of like the Pledge of Allegiance or something.
[71:01] Jim May: I'm sitting there, and that's going to be the fun part.
[71:03] Jim May: I'll put that book out and different things.
[71:06] Jim May: I really like your show and Alan.
[71:11] Jim May: And, you know, I see eye to eye with about everything you're saying, too.
[71:14] Jim May: So I should have been in the studio today, I guess.
[71:17] Jim May: Well, did you get snow?
[71:19] Jim May: We got a little skip of snow out here.
[71:21] Jim May: The ranch is, Kiowa got six to eight inches, I'm told, by my ranch manager, Mark.
[71:27] Jim May: So we're still in winter.
[71:30] Kim Monson: Although I was on a walk the other night, and I kind of could smell early spring.
[71:35] Kim Monson: So I think spring is right around the corner.
[71:41] Jim May: And everybody have a great week, and we'll see you next time.
[71:43] Kim Monson: Yeah, and again, Lavaca Meat Company, it is a treat.
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[74:01] Kim Monson: Thank you to all of you who support us.
[74:04] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[74:09] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[74:15] Kim Monson: And I got so busy reading the text from dave regarding our medal of honor quote that we shared earlier, or in our number one, with the citation of Charles S.
[74:23] Kim Monson: Kettles that I didn't give you the quote of the day.
[74:28] Kim Monson: And he said this, he said, there is no price too high for an individual to pay that contributes to the preservation of this great nation.
[74:33] Kim Monson: And beautiful, just absolutely beautiful.
[74:37] Kim Monson: Allen Thomas, I'm so pleased that you've stayed for hour number two.
[74:47] Kim Monson: We could do the Joe Rogan, Kim Monson show.
[74:50] Kim Monson: And I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show.
[74:54] Kim Monson: It is because of these great sponsors that were on the air.
[74:57] Kim Monson: And pleased to have on the line with me Dr.
[75:01] Kim Monson: And she and I and Molly Vogt were together at the very beginning of all this.
[75:19] Kim Monson: Yes, it'll be good evening when we rebroadcast this in the 10 to 11 hour tonight.
[75:23] Kim Monson: And yes, we all started many years ago together, just talking about, I remember we looked at each other, we said, what are we going to talk about on that Sunday afternoon show?
[75:35] Kim Monson: So we decided to talk about health care, and then go through the Declaration and the Constitution.
[75:46] Jill Vecchio: And you think about, we studied Supreme Court decisions.
[75:48] Jill Vecchio: We went through the Constitution phrase by phrase and the Declaration.
[75:55] Jill Vecchio: I mean, it was an amazing learning experience.
[75:57] Jill Vecchio: It took us a year and a half to get through it.
[75:59] Jill Vecchio: And that was just a great time that I thoroughly enjoyed.
[76:04] Kim Monson: And that was back in 2013, I think, when we started that.
[76:12] Kim Monson: And so you're still watching health care, Dr.
[76:17] Kim Monson: And I thought, let's talk about health care.
[76:20] Kim Monson: That hasn't really been an issue that we've talked a lot about on the national stage lately.
[76:25] Kim Monson: But it is very important to people.
[76:27] Kim Monson: And of course, Obamacare, moving us towards socialized medicine, we do have a bill down at the Colorado State House that's doing an analysis on a government- runhealth care system here in Colorado.
[76:42] Kim Monson: And, of course, Colorado's the petri dish for trying all this stuff out.
[76:46] Kim Monson: So what's the macro view on health care right now, Dr.
[76:53] Jill Vecchio: I just watched all three and a half hours plus of the Senate confirmation hearings with RFK Jr.
[77:04] Jill Vecchio: We'll have to I don't know if they've had to vote on him or not.
[77:07] Jill Vecchio: They were voting on something, but I'm not sure.
[77:10] Jill Vecchio: So now health care is going to come back into focus, I think, because we the Republicans have an opportunity to right the ridiculous wrong that they did the last time they had full control of the White House and both houses of Congress.
[77:30] Jill Vecchio: So hopefully they will do the right thing this time, but a lot of change needs to happen.
[77:40] Jill Vecchio: Is the perfect person to kind of wake people up to entirely new ideas and ways to approach the overall health care atmosphere in our country.
[77:51] Jill Vecchio: And I think he's willing to do that and anxious to do that.
[77:54] Jill Vecchio: And he's very, very, very knowledgeable, very knowledgeable.
[77:59] Jill Vecchio: I'm always amazed if you do listen to some of those more long- formatpodcasts and stuff with him talking about health care.
[78:05] Jill Vecchio: He's very well- informedand very bold, not afraid to say what needs to be said or address things that need to be addressed that have been kicked down the road for so long.
[78:18] Allen Thomas: And, Jill, did you see the exchange between RFK Jr.
[78:23] Allen Thomas: and Bernie Sanders about the– Do you have a right to health care?
[78:31] Jill Vecchio: Well, yeah, the simple answer is absolutely not.
[78:39] Jill Vecchio: No, because if you had a right to somebody, to a service or some product, that means somebody else would be obligated to pay for it for you.
[78:49] Jill Vecchio: And you don't have a right to take somebody else's money.
[78:52] Jill Vecchio: You don't have a right to somebody else's skills.
[78:58] Jill Vecchio: It's nowhere in the Constitution that you don't have a right to food, you know, which is more health care and food.
[79:04] Jill Vecchio: You don't have a right to walk into a grocery store and take whatever you want and walk out.
[79:09] Jill Vecchio: Would anybody claim that they have a right to do that?
[79:13] Jill Vecchio: So, yeah, RFK, you know, when he was barely even allowed to get out the word no, you know.
[79:20] Jill Vecchio: And the opposite party always does this to every, you know, Senate confirmation candidate.
[79:26] Jill Vecchio: You know, they use it as some platform to blab and blab and then never let the other person answer or give them some trick question like, have you stopped beating your wife?
[79:36] Jill Vecchio: You know, it's like it's the same kind of a kind of a joke, theatricals that go on.
[79:46] Jill Vecchio: But I thought he did a very good job when he was allowed to answer.
[79:54] Kim Monson: So where are we at with health care?
[79:57] Kim Monson: He has asserted that we're very unhealthy and that we want to make America healthy again.
[80:07] Kim Monson: And all these pharmaceuticals, of course, many of the shows, that is all it is, is basically pharmaceuticals.
[80:19] Jill Vecchio: And what are the most common pharmaceuticals?
[80:31] Jill Vecchio: described as the biggest problems, obesity, diabetes type 2, and then the rise in autoimmune and autism and chronic disease, the pharmaceutical industry has a unique way of kind of creating issues and then having a chronic medication that you have to take for the rest of your life, you know, to deal with it.
[80:58] Jill Vecchio: And we're not encouraging people to live healthy lives.
[81:02] Jill Vecchio: But I think that part of the problem, I mean, government controls a whole lot more of our health care than we realize.
[81:10] Jill Vecchio: Obviously, you know, it started after World War II, but over time, since Medicare and Medicaid came into being, we have a health care system now where the person giving the care, the provider, the health care provider, and the person getting the care are bureaucratically separated by the person paying for the care or the entity paying for the care.
[81:32] Jill Vecchio: If you could if you could realign the entire reimbursement system, the scam of these ridiculous charges,$ 30 for a Band- Aidkind of stuff where, you know, they charge you$ 30 for a Band- Aidor they're charging$ 30 for a Band- Aid,but they only get paid like, you know, three cents or not at all.
[81:59] Jill Vecchio: But you don't know what happens in that black box of a$ 30 Band- Aidall of a sudden is free.
[82:10] Jill Vecchio: I can't imagine that that is really legally okay.
[82:14] Jill Vecchio: Certainly ethically and morally it shouldn't be okay to have this ridiculous lie going on about what health care really costs and who should have to pay what cost, how transparent all of these costs and charges should be, which they should all be completely transparent, and now they're not.
[82:44] Jill Vecchio: I think people kind of understand a little bit, but I can go into a little more detail.
[82:50] Jill Vecchio: Okay, so just a quick example, if that's okay.
[82:58] Jill Vecchio: So I had a surgery and my bill was, I got a bill with the charges of$ 91, 000.
[83:06] Jill Vecchio: I was in the hospital for a couple of$ 91, 000.
[83:09] Jill Vecchio: My insurance company didn't pay it right away.
[83:12] Jill Vecchio: I get a letter from the hospital where I was a physician actually.
[83:16] Jill Vecchio: And I get a letter from the hospital saying, saying,
[83:20] Jill Vecchio: you're going to have to pay all$ 91,000 if your insurance doesn't pay this.
[83:25] Jill Vecchio: Well, that's a horrible letter for anybody to get.
[83:35] Jill Vecchio: It made me mad because I already knew what the game was.
[83:38] Jill Vecchio: It turns out my insurance company paid shortly thereafter.
[83:42] Jill Vecchio: Then I get another bill, kind of a notice from the insurance company saying, Here was the charge,$ 91,000.
[83:50] Jill Vecchio: Here's what your insurance paid,$ 9,100.$ 9,100, you owe nothing.
[84:00] Jill Vecchio: Now, how did that$ 91,000 get down to$ 9,100 and everybody's okay with that?
[84:21] Jill Vecchio: They just charge all this money saying, well, maybe somebody will pay it.
[84:23] Jill Vecchio: The only people that ever have to pay, that are the people who don't have full coverage, health insurance and all this stuff.
[84:29] Jill Vecchio: So the insurance companies allow this to happen because they know they're not going to have to pay that number.
[84:34] Jill Vecchio: They contract all the time with the way most of the reimbursement stuff that I saw in two cancers, multiple surgeries, the reimbursement was about 10%of what the charge was.
[84:48] Jill Vecchio: Now, if I only had to pay$ 9, 100for that cancer, I could do that if I weren't paying$ 30, 000a year for health insurance with a$ 6, 000deductible.
[85:01] Jill Vecchio: You know, if I'm paying$ 24, 000plus$ 6, 000deductible before I can ever even use the health care that I'm paying$ 24, 000for, I could have paid for three of those surgeries, cash, written a check, if I didn't have to pay ridiculously high premiums for health care that I didn't expect to use.
[85:31] Jill Vecchio: Now, that being said, I would have had a catastrophic coverage, catastrophic insurance for that hospitalization, and that would have paid that hospitalization even.
[85:36] Jill Vecchio: So if I had cancer, I'd have insurance for that.
[85:39] Jill Vecchio: But for all the average little things, tell me what it really costs, not$ 91, 000or half of$ 91, 000.
[85:53] Jill Vecchio: What are the insurance companies paying you to do this?
[86:01] Allen Thomas: Jill, one of the ways my eyes was open to this is we, the health provider, we went to actually transition to a direct primary care because he said he spent most of his time coding to charge and bill insurance as opposed to actually seeing patients.
[86:19] Allen Thomas: And so he switched to a, hey, you pay us a monthly fee and you can come see us however much you want.
[86:24] Allen Thomas: And it was really nice because, one, the care increased.
[86:31] Allen Thomas: Jill, to your point, he charged at cost for prescriptions, for blood panels, for blood work.
[86:39] Allen Thomas: And when we got the bill every time, I was like, oh my goodness, this is how little all of this costs.
[86:44] Allen Thomas: And I mean, we have pretty good health insurance through my employer.
[86:48] Allen Thomas: And it's still worth it for me to go to this direct primary care doctor to pay on top of my health insurance, this monthly fee, just so we can pay at cost for all the things that these primary care doctors have.
[87:04] Jill Vecchio: And wouldn't it, exactly, and I talk about this all the time, that is the basis.
[87:12] Jill Vecchio: was trying to explain that direct primary care.
[87:15] Jill Vecchio: He mentioned it, I think, three different times.
[87:20] Jill Vecchio: Because it's such a wonderful business model that the practitioners of it, a lot of times they even have urgent care services available as well, and call services for minor emergencies, which is brilliant.
[87:39] Jill Vecchio: Great for families with kids, the perfect model for Medicaid patients.
[87:44] Jill Vecchio: So all you would need is a catastrophic policy.
[87:46] Jill Vecchio: Now, isn't it sad that your employer wouldn't have?
[87:51] Jill Vecchio: Doesn't have the option of saying: you know what?
[87:53] Jill Vecchio: If you want to do a direct primary care here, let me just give you the amount of money that I'm paying for you to be to have this insurance, and they should have the option of saying: here: I'm just going to give you this chunk of money, uh and uh, you can spend it, you can use it for your health insurance.
[88:11] Jill Vecchio: You just have to tell me what you're doing so I can have a record of you're going to have direct primary care with a catastrophic policy.
[88:17] Jill Vecchio: The other problem is, who's selling catastrophic policies?
[88:21] Jill Vecchio: What insurance companies anymore are selling what used to be called major medical or catastrophic policies?
[88:29] Jill Vecchio: And it's not in the insurance company's best interest to do that.
[88:32] Jill Vecchio: No, everybody has to have the Obamacare massive laundry list of mandated coverages, which makes these policies so expensive.
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[91:46] Kim Monson: Jill Vecchio is on the line, and we're talking about health care.
[91:50] Kim Monson: And, Jill, as you were talking about that you had this surgery, you got a bill for$ 91, 000,which is going to take everybody's breath away, and told if you don't have insurance, you have to pay that.
[92:02] Kim Monson: But yet the actual payment was about 10% ofthat, which seems much more reasonable.
[92:09] Kim Monson: But this care that is not, well, my point on this is, and I watched this issue closely regarding Denver Health, where they said that their unpaid health costs will soar to$ 155 million.
[92:27] Kim Monson: This was a report September 17, 2024 from Denver 7 because they wanted to get a 0.
[92:42] Kim Monson: It was a little bit less than that to help fund.
[92:46] Kim Monson: People voted for it for Denver Health because they're out there saying that they're losing all of this money.
[92:51] Kim Monson: But I think it's part of maybe this, you used the word scam, but this difference between the two.
[93:02] Jill Vecchio: Well, yeah, and I think I'm going to keep calling it a scam, scam, scam over and over again because it's not morally or ethically fair, right, honest.
[93:10] Jill Vecchio: And yes, so when I think there are two reasons why the industry embraces this massive charge thing.
[93:20] Jill Vecchio: Number one is to scare the heck out of people, to scare the hell out of people so that they will think that they cannot do without total comprehensive health care insurance, health insurance.
[93:35] Jill Vecchio: They have to believe that they could never pay cash.
[93:42] Jill Vecchio: They could never afford health care without having a fully comprehensive policy, and that's where the insurance companies make a ton of money because they can charge healthy people who take good care of themselves, aren't seeing a doctor, you know, but once in every five years.
[93:59] Jill Vecchio: Just think of all the money they're accumulating and not having to pay out.
[94:02] Jill Vecchio: So healthy people are having to pay way too much for health care that they can never even use, never even begin to use because of the high deductibles.
[94:13] Jill Vecchio: And then the sick people are benefiting that, you know, people can make bad choices and they're still benefiting.
[94:21] Jill Vecchio: So it's an unfair system in that respect, and especially for the average person.
[94:25] Jill Vecchio: And also, number two, just like you said, so these facilities and providers can claim that they give free care, this much care, tax deducted, you know, that sort of thing, that they're giving all of this free care when it's kind of like, which number are you using?
[94:48] Jill Vecchio: Because that's going to be in your best interest, especially if you want to pass some legislation- saying we gave this 150 billion dollars or whatever, or a million dollars in in free care?
[95:00] Jill Vecchio: We used to call it denver general right, denver health it um.
[95:04] Jill Vecchio: They get very little reimbursement and most of those patients that show up there- or at least it used to- were cash pay if they paid at all.
[95:16] Jill Vecchio: And then they were stuck with the high charge and expected to pay that.
[95:22] Jill Vecchio: And then we get Congress, you know, and people who are proposing this legislation or single payer health care, they're going to use those big numbers.
[95:32] Jill Vecchio: And they're going to say, look at all these people who went bankrupt because of medical expenses, right?
[95:37] Jill Vecchio: That's because, sure, you're going to go bankrupt if you get a$ 91, 000 bill, when the insurance companyfor exactly the same thing only had to pay$ 9, 100.
[95:50] Jill Vecchio: Yeah, you're going to go bankrupt if you're expected to pay that ridiculous charge amount that nobody else has to pay.
[96:02] Kim Monson: 34 percent sales tax increase, whichsales tax is regressive because it makes things more expensive.
[96:09] Kim Monson: Now, Denver, I don't think, charges sales tax on some food items, but it makes life more expensive for everyone these people that are trying to to keep it together.
[96:18] Kim Monson: But I and that did pass the affordable housing did not.
[96:23] Kim Monson: I was a no on both of those and actually debated the CEO of Denver Health on this particular issue.
[96:30] Kim Monson: And then I debated Mike Johnston, Mayor Mike Johnston, on the affordable housing issue as well, which did fail.
[96:37] Kim Monson: But I think on the Denver Health, I think people look at it and Denver Health makes the case that they're that safety net.
[96:45] Kim Monson: In case something really bad happens, you could go to Denver Health.
[96:49] Kim Monson: And I think that's probably why it passed.
[96:52] Kim Monson: But what you're shedding light on here, Jill, is the game, the game, what the bill is, what's really paid, and how that big difference is used as a narrative to push forward.
[97:06] Kim Monson: Ultimately, single- payer health care, government- run healthcare is communistic inwhere it's based.
[97:14] Kim Monson: And you said this early on when we were together, I learned this from you, that when government gets involved, typically the price goes up, the quality goes down, and the supply becomes limited, Jill.
[97:30] Jill Vecchio: And, you know, but yeah, there's this whole thing with the charges and using it legislatively and everything.
[97:37] Jill Vecchio: How can you expect lawmakers, legislators, to make proper decisions if the information that they're being given is so inaccurate?
[97:54] Jill Vecchio: Even good people can't make a proper, effective decision if they're only being given skewed, massively skewed information.
[98:06] Jill Vecchio: So this is like the first thing that needs to be addressed, in my opinion, And the second thing is all the lobbying and campaign money that goes to legislators, especially in Washington.
[98:19] Jill Vecchio: But, you know, I think one of the other things we need to do is have like a big scarlet letter, a big sign around every legislator's neck with a list of what donors they've had that will have a stake in whatever piece of legislation they're standing up to vote on.
[98:37] Jill Vecchio: And they should have to walk down with a little sign around their neck and openly say how they're voting on this piece of legislation.
[98:46] Jill Vecchio: I mean, it should be right there in front of everybody.
[98:51] Jill Vecchio: Who's paying you to vote the way that you're voting?
[98:55] Jill Vecchio: Or are you going to vote in spite of who's paying for your campaign?
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[102:19] Kim Monson: Allen Thomas, you've stayed in studio.
[102:21] Kim Monson: It's always interesting when we have Dr.
[102:23] Allen Thomas: It always is, and you learn something, too.
[102:26] Kim Monson: Well, we hope that happens every day here.
[102:33] Kim Monson: We're talking about health care in America.
[102:34] Kim Monson: And we have Johnny in Denver on the line with a question for Dr.
[102:38] Johnny from Denver: Well, I've been listening to your idea about the sign and the politicians.
[102:42] Johnny from Denver: What about having it like an Amber Alert, using AI to digitally write down who these people are and who's paying for them to vote that way, so it notifies you in your district that's your senator and pay attention?
[103:01] Johnny from Denver: Yeah, you know, yeah.
[103:08] Jill Vecchio: You know, we shouldn't have to be little private investigators to figure out who is paying for the campaigns for the people that we are supposed to be controlling the elections for, right?
[103:20] Jill Vecchio: I mean, we're supposed to, they're supposed to answer to us, but clearly they're going to answer to whoever donates their campaign, whoever has a bigger say in whether or not they get elected.
[103:30] Jill Vecchio: And, you know, all of that stuff, I think, does need to be addressed.
[103:33] Jill Vecchio: But until it can really effectively be addressed, there will always be corruption.
[103:37] Jill Vecchio: There's always going to be background money.
[103:39] Jill Vecchio: You know, you're not going to get rid of that because it's just human nature.
[103:43] Jill Vecchio: But, yes, it needs to be much more public, and they need to feel the pressure.
[103:47] Johnny from Denver: Yeah, I have another question.
[103:49] Johnny from Denver: I was on this insurance plan, and somebody in Texas with my name was using my insurance.
[103:55] Johnny from Denver: And when it was$ 36, I didn't think about it because they would always say, oh, you don't have to pay that.
[104:01] Johnny from Denver: We'll go into it.
[104:03] Johnny from Denver: After two years, and it went up from$ 36 to$ 3,000 and up, I wanted to go down to Texas and find out who is this other Johnny who's using my name and using my insurance, and nothing seems to be happening.
[104:20] Johnny from Denver: Wow.
[104:21] Jill Vecchio: It sounds like to me that— I have never heard of that.
[104:29] Johnny from Denver: And they're not addressing it themselves?
[104:30] Johnny from Denver: This is fought against them.
[104:32] Johnny from Denver: I was calling and was sitting on the phone for hours, you know, while they went to this line and this line.
[104:39] Johnny from Denver: And we just got tired of calling, and I just switched insurance plans.
[104:45] Johnny from Denver: Because even though they said I wasn't going to be charged for it, I just hated seeing who is this person with my name that it doesn't seem to be doing anything.
[104:57] Johnny from Denver: Wow.
[104:58] Jill Vecchio: Well, it could affect your credit rating if they're running up a bill and not paying it in your name.
[105:02] Jill Vecchio: You know, you might want to check your credit score stuff to see if it's showing up.
[105:07] Johnny from Denver: I'm on top of that, but it just seemed like they acted like they cared, but nothing happened.
[105:16] Jill Vecchio: Well, that's pretty typical, though, isn't it?
[105:18] Jill Vecchio: You know, you're lucky you haven't had somebody answer the phone.
[105:21] Jill Vecchio: You know, at this point, there are so many people, places you can't reach.
[105:26] Jill Vecchio: You're expected to go online and chat with some AI person.
[105:33] Kim Monson: Thank you, Johnny, for sharing that with us.
[105:36] Kim Monson: And I think health care is coming into the forefront here, obviously, with RFK Jr.
[105:42] Kim Monson: So, Jill, what you and I are doing is we wanted to give the macro view today.
[105:50] Kim Monson: And then you're going to be on next week as well to have a follow up on this.
[105:53] Kim Monson: So we've got maybe about five minutes left.
[105:56] Kim Monson: What do you want to make sure that people know?
[105:58] Jill Vecchio: Well, you know, and one of the things you did bring up, I mean, places like Denver Health, really any hospital should be a place where someone can show up and get care and then get the proper care.
[106:14] Jill Vecchio: And then let's figure out the payment, but make that fair as well.
[106:20] Jill Vecchio: Now, the other thing is, if all these hospitals have foundation money, I'd like to know how they're spending their foundation money.
[106:29] Jill Vecchio: Or where is that foundation money really going?
[106:33] Jill Vecchio: And then another thing, why don't we let charities and churches start health savings accounts that they can use that money only for medical care when somebody approaches them, just like a charity gives clothing away or at a discounted rate or something, right?
[106:55] Jill Vecchio: Why don't we have the ability for charities and churches to have health savings accounts that they can help other people in need pay for medical care?
[107:12] Jill Vecchio: I don't understand why that has not already occurred.
[107:17] Jill Vecchio: And then you think if that was the case, then why do we have to have all of the indigent going to one single hospital, one single entity?
[107:27] Jill Vecchio: You know, you could raise the bar of care everywhere, and you'd be able to distribute the burden and the workload.
[107:37] Jill Vecchio: I mean, Aurora Medical Center also has a boatload of unreimbursed care.
[107:46] Jill Vecchio: Why does it need to be concentrated on just a couple of facilities?
[107:48] Jill Vecchio: And and the other ones are rolling in dough, you know, it just doesn't make any sense.
[107:53] Kim Monson: Well, and again, I I still question that unpaid care if they're using that, for example in your example, ninety one thousand dollars instead of the ninety one hundred.
[108:05] Kim Monson: This was from the denver post, says denver.
[108:08] Kim Monson: Denver Health has paused gender-affirming surgeries for youth to comply with Trump order preserve federal funds.
[108:15] Kim Monson: Denver Health, change it to what it really is.
[108:18] Kim Monson: Denver Health pauses mutilation surgeries for youth to comply with Trump order and preserve federal funds.
[108:23] Kim Monson: So we've been using federal funds to pay Denver Health to mutilate children.
[108:28] Kim Monson: And I think we kind of have to question that, Dr.
[108:41] Jill Vecchio: I mean, people people pay for, you know, Brazilian butt lifts for crying out loud.
[108:46] Jill Vecchio: I mean, you know, they pay for cosmetic surgery.
[108:52] Jill Vecchio: You know, this is not medically indicated surgery.
[108:59] Jill Vecchio: Why do we have to pay for elective surgery, even though I completely disagree with the notion of gender, gender transition surgery at all?
[109:12] Jill Vecchio: But if you want to, if you want to mutilate your body or your kid's body, then don't don't ask me to pay for it.
[109:19] Kim Monson: That makes me an accessory to a crime right, either through federal funding or through your and the insurance that you have.
[109:36] Kim Monson: And you're going to be on, I think it's next Thursday, right?
[109:40] Kim Monson: Oh, whatever you tell me, I will do.
[109:46] Kim Monson: And Alan, your final thought on all this?
[109:48] Allen Thomas: One, it's great that Trump is able to stop these surgeries, but it should give us pause and it should scare us that the tendrils that the federal government has into our everyday life.
[110:01] Allen Thomas: And we really need to work hard at removing the stranglehold that the federal government has over all of our life.
[110:09] Allen Thomas: The fact that there's federal funding that can determine the type of care I'm going to get out of hospital should strike fear into all of us.
[110:15] Allen Thomas: And this is really something that Republicans really need to start cracking down on in these next years, with Trump is saying: the federal government needs to get out of your life, and we're going to make sure we can do it.
[110:27] Kim Monson: That is what and that you sound so founding fatherish on that.
[110:31] Kim Monson: Well, that's what happens when you study them, right?
[110:36] Kim Monson: I appreciate you doing all the research on this.
[110:40] Jill Vecchio: And I just to say, you know what, hail what Alan just said, because the government now controls everything through HHS.
[110:48] Jill Vecchio: And now we have the opportunity for a secretary of HHS who is really competent and not afraid to go after all of us.
[110:56] Kim Monson: And so it's exciting times here in Colorado and in America.
[111:00] Kim Monson: We're at the tip of the spear here in Colorado.
[111:07] Kim Monson: We're definitely at a time in history.
[111:12] Kim Monson: Our quote for the end of the show is from Thucydides.
[111:15] Kim Monson: He said, happiness depends on being free and freedom depends on being courageous.
[111:20] Kim Monson: So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way.
[111:33] Kim Monson: God bless you and God bless America.
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