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[00:43] Kim Monson: My friends, we were made for this moment.
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[01:02] Kim Monson: You'll get first look at our upcoming guests, our most recent essays.
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[01:08] Kim Monson: And thank you to all of you who support us.
[01:12] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[01:17] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[01:21] Kim Monson: And we've worked really, really hard to bring these shows to you for Christmas week.
[01:26] Kim Monson: We are pre-recording them, and they're all very special shows, and able to give some of these guests some extra time on these subjects.
[01:34] Kim Monson: And so I always like to have Ben Martin during these times because he has so much information.
[01:41] Kim Monson: He is a patriotic historian and a former Army Ranger, a graduate from West Point.
[01:52] Ben Martin: It's good to be with you and your patriotic audience.
[01:58] Kim Monson: Can't believe my internal clock is at about the about the 4th of July.
[02:03] Kim Monson: So I can't be I can't believe that we're at the new year here.
[02:07] Kim Monson: But yes, Merry Christmas to you and yours also.
[02:11] Kim Monson: These are such important shows, because I think that what happens with mainstream media and with the narrative out there is they try to negate our history.
[02:21] Kim Monson: They try to make people think that this is unique, where we are in history, and they try to negate our history so that we don't learn these great stories.
[02:33] Kim Monson: And so this year, it's just been so interesting to do these great warriors of our American Revolutionary War, and this is finishing up our fourth year, isn't it, Ben?
[02:41] Ben Martin: It sure is, Kim, and it's been a crazy one this year, that's for sure.
[02:47] Ben Martin: You know, and what you've said is so important.
[02:50] Ben Martin: Right now, one of the things that they're trying to take away from us is an understanding that some things are good, that are permanently good, that can last forever.
[03:00] Ben Martin: And they're trying to take all that away.
[03:02] Ben Martin: They're trying to take definitions and things away from us.
[03:05] Ben Martin: And some of the everlasting truths that we have in our history, or those principles that support our belief system and have helped to produce a prosperity in our country.
[03:19] Ben Martin: And if they can erase that from our general mind as a community, a society, then we lose all of that.
[03:32] Ben Martin: We lose all of those things that our founders learned from their study of history and put together for the first time in a government that was a self-government, where people were the sovereigns of the government.
[03:47] Ben Martin: And it was the first time that that had ever happened in our Constitution.
[03:52] Ben Martin: And if we lose those principles, you know, those principles of virtue, of morality, of religion, of good people, then we can lose our government and we can lose our nation.
[04:08] Ben Martin: So we must remember that and remember the good that is there within.
[04:13] Kim Monson: Well, and that is why we do this show.
[04:15] Kim Monson: And so we always do a quote for the beginning of the show.
[04:19] Kim Monson: And I thought we'd go, since we're going to be talking to Washington, there is the quote about him.
[04:25] Kim Monson: And I thought I had it at my fingertips, but here it is.
[04:29] Kim Monson: It was from Henry Light Horse Harry Lee, a trusted officer from the American Revolution.
[04:35] Kim Monson: He stated regarding Washington that he was first in war, first in peace, and first in the hearts of his countrymen.
[04:43] Kim Monson: And if you hear those words, it should make us all want to know more and more about George Washington.
[04:50] Ben Martin: Those were the words of his official eulogy.
[04:58] Ben Martin: And as you know, Light Horse Harry Lee was the father of Robert E.
[05:01] Kim Monson: It is so amazing and we learned that this year in history as well.
[05:06] Kim Monson: So let's talk about Washington's farewell address and he voluntarily served only two terms as President of the United States, setting that precedent.
[05:19] Kim Monson: And he could have been king because he was so popular.
[05:26] Kim Monson: But in the history of man, he is a very unique individual.
[05:31] Kim Monson: And so this inaugural, or excuse me, this farewell address is so important, Ben.
[05:37] Ben Martin: And I'm glad you're adding that emphasis because it really is.
[05:40] Ben Martin: And today we're concluding this year's program, as you said, of the American founders by focusing on a most important but a rarely understood subject, and that's the farewell address of George Washington.
[05:52] Ben Martin: And here, before we get started, we'll briefly mention the highlights of Washington's four-plus decades, 45 years of unparalleled and indispensable service to our founding.
[06:03] Ben Martin: His military service in the French and Indian War, his legislative stint in the Second Continental Congress, his irreplaceable leadership as a commander-in-chief in the Revolutionary War, and his first unprecedented landmark resignation of power after that victory and our independence was secured.
[06:23] Ben Martin: And then his guiding hands during the Constitutional Convention, along with his sterling character, which set the example for the chief executive in crafting the Constitution, and the distinct probability that he would serve as a first president, which proved a significant factor in the Constitution's ratification.
[06:45] Ben Martin: His calm and steady hands on the reins of our nation during his two terms as our first president set the example of a virtuous leader and statesman for all successive presidents to follow.
[06:59] Ben Martin: As president, his fostering presence helped then-Congressman James Madison's efforts in establishing the Bill of Rights.
[07:07] Ben Martin: Washington also established the protocol for presidential inaugurals, presidential interaction with the legislative branch, especially the Senate, also in launching the first Supreme Court, and in establishing and selecting the first presidential cabinet.
[07:26] Ben Martin: He set the presidential example for effectively dealing with difficult foreign and domestic issues, and for once again resigning his power, as you mentioned already, and position as president, and returning to life as a citizen.
[07:42] Ben Martin: Like was known from his first landmark relinquishment of power after the Revolutionary War, which I already talked about, for a great leader to voluntarily give up power and return to private life is almost unprecedented in the annals of history.
[08:05] Ben Martin: He was also an act which contributed to the establishment of Republican self-government in America.
[08:13] Ben Martin: In so doing, Washington also provided to us that farewell address, which we're going to speak about directly.
[08:20] Ben Martin: We have in previous discussion, I'm sorry, Kim, did you want to say something?
[08:25] Kim Monson: Well, I think the only thing is, and I learned this from you, is that there was a portrait that was being done of King George.
[08:35] Kim Monson: And the guy that was painting the portrait informs King George that George Washington is relinquishing his power.
[08:43] Kim Monson: And King George was just flabbergasted, correct?
[08:47] Ben Martin: And that portrait painter was the American painter Benjamin West.
[08:54] Ben Martin: He was painting, you know, and these paintings weren't like we have today where we can take a picture with our camera and walk away.
[09:01] Ben Martin: It took lots of time to get everything right.
[09:04] Ben Martin: And, of course, you didn't want to mess up the king's portrait because that might not be good for you.
[09:10] Ben Martin: For your profession or maybe your health, you know.
[09:12] Ben Martin: The Tower of London was really close by.
[09:17] Ben Martin: And then he said, you know, he was trying to give advice.
[09:21] Ben Martin: He was being kind of pompous to West.
[09:24] Ben Martin: And he said to him, he said, you know, Washington, he said he will not last long, basically.
[09:37] Ben Martin: You know, and West looked at him and he said, Your Majesty, I understand from the people back home that Washington has resigned his role as commander in chief and returned to his form in Virginia.
[09:54] Ben Martin: And then that's when the king said, you know, he was taken aback very much and mouth kind of open.
[10:02] Ben Martin: He said, if Washington does that, he will be the world's greatest man.
[10:10] Ben Martin: And West already knew that he had done that.
[10:15] Ben Martin: And that's why I said it was a landmark.
[10:17] Ben Martin: It was unprecedented that he did something like that.
[10:19] Ben Martin: The only person that we know of in history, the famous person we know, is Cincinnatus of the Roman Republic.
[10:29] Ben Martin: And that's who they looked at George Washington as being after that, because he became dictator, which was a real title in the Republic of Rome.
[10:41] Ben Martin: And he solved the crisis, and then he went back home after it was over.
[10:46] Ben Martin: He had absolute power in Rome, and he turned that power back.
[10:50] Ben Martin: Just as Washington had been getting absolute power while he was commander-in-chief of the Army, when everything was kind of falling apart and nobody knew what to do, and they just said, hey, you know, the Continental Congress said, Washington, you have absolute power.
[11:04] Ben Martin: Do whatever you think is needed to win this war, to save us.
[11:11] Ben Martin: And then he turned that power back voluntarily, which, like I said, it's almost unprecedented in the annals of world history.
[11:21] Ben Martin: But he adds this farewell address to it, and so we've previously discussed all those other details that I mentioned, acts performed by Washington in all his roles as our nation's founding father.
[11:35] Ben Martin: But today we're going to focus on this final act and the content of Washington's farewell address.
[11:42] Ben Martin: Now, many have asked, and maybe people out there are asking right now, what is a farewell address?
[11:49] Ben Martin: And like I said, first of all, it is not really a speech.
[11:53] Ben Martin: It is an open letter announcing his decision not to seek a third term as president and full of valedictory advice and warnings to the American people about their long-term safety and happiness as a country and a citizenry.
[12:17] Ben Martin: So Washington dated the original proof of the address.
[12:21] Ben Martin: He recorded it and delivered that final manuscript on 17 September 1796.
[12:29] Ben Martin: That is exactly nine years earlier on that same date, 17 September, but 1787, that the Constitution had been approved by the Constitutional Convention, which, of course, you know, Washington had chaired and led and directed.
[12:47] Ben Martin: It was originally published in the largest newspaper in Philadelphia, and that's David Claypool's American Daily Advertiser.
[12:57] Ben Martin: And it was published on 19 September, two days after Washington delivered it, 19 September 1776.
[13:04] Ben Martin: Under the title, hold on to your horses here, the original title was The Address of General Washington to the People of the United States on His Declining of the Presidency of the United States.
[13:23] Kim Monson: I'm talking with Ben Martin, patriotic historian, former Army Ranger graduate of West Point.
[13:29] Kim Monson: His love of our history is so important.
[13:32] Kim Monson: And I actually took a class that he was offering many years ago on our American founding heritage.
[13:38] Kim Monson: And he just brings our history to life.
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[16:45] Kim Monson: Thank you to all of you who support us.
[16:47] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[16:54] Kim Monson: You shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[16:56] Kim Monson: And on the line with me has been Martin, patriotic historian, just brings our history to life.
[17:02] Kim Monson: We're talking about George Washington and his farewell address.
[17:06] Kim Monson: and it was really a letter, a message to the American people.
[17:13] Kim Monson: And I also want to say thank you to the Harris family for bringing this to life.
[17:18] Kim Monson: So where do you want to go from this?
[17:21] Ben Martin: We stopped and we talked about the long title that it was originally given: the address of General Washington to the people of the United States on his declining of the presidency of the United States.
[17:35] Ben Martin: But it was almost immediately reprinted in newspapers across the country, Kim.
[17:43] Ben Martin: But only one, and that was the Courier of New Hampshire, can claim the credit for having reprinted it under the title for which it is now known, Washington's Farewell Address.
[17:57] Ben Martin: That was the paper in New Hampshire, the Courier of New Hampshire.
[18:01] Ben Martin: Like Washington's two relinquishments of power, this address was unprecedented.
[18:08] Ben Martin: Under another first of its kind, it was not communicated to Congress, nor publicly delivered on a grand occasion.
[18:17] Ben Martin: The reader did not even know the author of this lengthy article until the end, where it was written plainly, G.
[18:29] Kim Monson (reactions): Oh my gosh.
[18:34] Ben Martin: So President Washington considered retiring at the end of his first term.
[18:39] Ben Martin: And in May of 1792, he asked James Madison to help him prepare such an address.
[18:47] Ben Martin: However, at the time, the thought of the United States without George Washington as its president concerned many Americans.
[18:56] Ben Martin: Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson, of course, who would later lead the Democrat-Republicans, joined his political rival, Alexander Hamilton, the leader of the Federalist Party, to convince the president to delay his retirement and serve a second term, fearing that without his leadership, the nation would be torn apart.
[19:22] Ben Martin: Washington most likely referred to them when he said in his farewell address that he had wanted to retire before the last election, but was convinced by people, quote, entitled to my confidence that it was his duty to serve a second term.
[19:42] Kim Monson: And I've heard, and maybe it was one of the classes you taught or someplace where I read it, that Washington, after all these years, there was the French and Indian War and the Revolutionary War and the Continental Congress, all the meetings.
[19:59] Kim Monson: He just wanted to go to Mount Vernon.
[20:01] Kim Monson: He wanted to go back to Mount Vernon and just be a regular man.
[20:05] Ben Martin: And that says something about he wanted to live under the government that he had created.
[20:11] Ben Martin: this government that was for the people, by the people, of the people.
[20:16] Ben Martin: He wanted to be there and enjoy those things that he had helped create and make happen.
[20:24] Ben Martin: You know, because in his first term, he was just getting all this stuff set up and setting these examples for people.
[20:35] Ben Martin: You know, he was in his 60s, and during that time, and all the hard things that he had done, he was kind of wearing out.
[20:44] Ben Martin: You know, he didn't have all these artificial joints and stuff that we have today.
[20:49] Ben Martin: And so he was feeling bad, and he wanted to go back and enjoy that.
[20:52] Ben Martin: But he understood his duty, that his duty came first, that it was his to make sure that the American people would go on after he was gone.
[21:04] Ben Martin: And that's one of the main purposes is why he wrote and delivered this farewell address.
[21:12] Ben Martin: So he considered that in his first term, but Hamilton and Jefferson stopped him.
[21:18] Ben Martin: He said, we'll tear this country apart without your leadership, you know.
[21:24] Kim Monson: And, Ben, I find that so interesting because partisanship, that's big time in politics.
[21:30] Kim Monson: These two looked at things totally differently.
[21:33] Kim Monson: And it's interesting, they would come together instead of, I mean, human nature would be each of them might try to undercut the other one so that they could get the power.
[21:45] Kim Monson: So it's remarkable that they came together to convince him for another four years.
[21:49] Ben Martin: And that shows you something that we don't have today, that they politically, they were diametrically opposed on many issues.
[22:01] Ben Martin: But they could come together to see that it was more important to preserve this country, this government that had never been created before in the world in 6,000 years of our history.
[22:15] Ben Martin: And this was being created, and they wanted to give it a chance to work.
[22:20] Ben Martin: I mean, that was more important to them than their individual glory, their ambition, their avarice.
[22:28] Ben Martin: And in our leaders today, this could have been written today just as well as it was written 250 years ago.
[22:35] Ben Martin: This could have been written today.
[22:40] Ben Martin: And that's why in 1862, President Lincoln was the one that directed that this should be read nationally.
[22:51] Ben Martin: This farewell address should be read nationally on Washington's birthday every year.
[22:58] Ben Martin: by the American people and our American legislature.
[23:02] Ben Martin: And it is still being done today in the Senate, you know, every year on Washington's birthday.
[23:12] Ben Martin: It's sad, though, when you go and you watch it on that C-SPAN, that usually there's nobody in there except the guy reading it.
[23:22] Ben Martin: You know, nobody is paying attention to it.
[23:25] Ben Martin: And like our president is saying right now, I have more important things to do.
[23:31] Ben Martin: Well, you know, I don't think we have more important things to do than to learn those lessons that have given us such prosperity and such a long life of this country.
[23:41] Kim Monson: Yeah, you think that might be a good thing.
[23:49] Ben Martin: You know, a couple words here or there.
[23:53] Ben Martin: So even if you read it slowly at 100 words a minute, it would take an hour to hear it.
[23:59] Kim Monson (reactions): Okay.
[24:01] Ben Martin: So that's, or to read it, you know, so that's not a lot, but to read it to yourself.
[24:07] Ben Martin: So let's get back to that, if we can, Kim, for a minute and say four years later, at his second term came to a close, he revisited this address.
[24:17] Ben Martin: And Alexander Hamilton then helped prepare a revision of that original draft that he and Madison, you know, that Washington and Madison had put together.
[24:27] Ben Martin: And understanding the original concerns, you know, that America was still young and it was still growing and it still needed guidance.
[24:35] Ben Martin: itself, but understanding those original concerns, Washington sought to convince the American people in this address, this was added to that, that America was much stronger now and that his service was no longer necessary.
[24:49] Ben Martin: And despite this confidence that he had in the government that it would survive without his leadership, Washington used the majority of this letter to offer advice as a, quote, parting friend on what he believed were the greatest threats to the survival of the nation.
[25:07] Ben Martin: And that still is cogent today, and it should be looked at, and his pattern, his example, should be followed, and his advice should be followed.
[25:20] Ben Martin: Today, Washington's farewell, though, is revered, along with the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Federalist Papers, as one of the greatest statements of American purpose.
[25:33] Ben Martin: Now, I say it's revered, but it's revered by historians and some specialists in government, but by the American people, most people that you ask don't even know what it is, and that's why I tried to explain it in the first thing.
[25:50] Ben Martin: But it is so important to read these things, to just sit down, like to read our Constitution, which is, you know, about 7,000 words, but to sit down and read it and try to understand it.
[26:01] Ben Martin: But this tells you those things, that he thinks that these are the greatest threats to the survival of our nation.
[26:09] Ben Martin: And so today, like I said, it's revered by those who know it, along with the Declaration of the Constitution and the Federalist Papers.
[26:17] Ben Martin: Madison described it as one of the best guides to the distinctive principles of American government.
[26:26] Ben Martin: And Jefferson made it primary reading.
[26:28] Ben Martin: I mean, everybody that came to the University of Virginia, his university, had to read Washington's Farewell.
[26:35] Ben Martin: And John Marshall, the historic Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, described it as a last effort to impress upon his countrymen those great political truths which have been the guides of his own administration.
[26:51] Ben Martin: And he argued that it contained precepts to which American statesmen cannot too frequently recur.
[27:02] Ben Martin: These are double negatives, but it's a positive.
[27:05] Ben Martin: Precepts to which the American statesman cannot too frequently occur.
[27:11] Ben Martin: In other words, he should recur to it frequently.
[27:15] Ben Martin: And from the time it was published until Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address in 1863, Washington's Farewell Address was the most popular document used for political guidance in America.
[27:31] Ben Martin: And today, like I said, most people don't even know what this great document is and what it contains.
[27:37] Kim Monson: Well, and that's why it's so important that we do this show, Ben Martin.
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[28:17] Kim Monson: And before we go to break, I am talking with Matt Dark.
[28:26] Kim Monson: and I cannot believe that we are at the end of the year.
[28:34] Matt Dark: It's never gone faster, but it's actually because there's been more involvement.
[28:38] Matt Dark: There's been more things that we've just simply had to get involved in our life.
[28:41] Matt Dark: I look so forward to this next year and beyond because I learned so much in 2022.
[28:49] Matt Dark: I am a better, even though it was a lot of harm, a lot of tragedy, a lot of heartache out there, I am more experienced and more reliant on God individual as a result of 22.
[28:57] Matt Dark: So I'm thankful for that experience as it propels us into the next year.
[29:01] Kim Monson: I think that I think many of us have been on that particular journey.
[29:06] Kim Monson: And I think it was just fortuitous that you and I sat next to each other at the County GOP Assembly.
[29:12] Kim Monson: Because that in many ways changed your life.
[29:15] Kim Monson: Did you ever dream you were going to have a radio show here on KLZ?
[29:19] Matt Dark: You know, what's so strange is, is I'd never thought or spoken really publicly at all in any capacity before COVID.
[29:26] Matt Dark: And all of a sudden I said, you know what?
[29:28] Matt Dark: I wanted to be a sports announcer.
[29:30] Matt Dark: Ladies and gentlemen, all that kind of stuff.
[29:35] Matt Dark: So in just this very short amount of time, life's changed and God put people in places that maybe was uncomfortable or you never would have seen coming.
[29:44] Matt Dark: And that's exactly what happened.
[29:47] Matt Dark: I I can't believe we're doing this right now, but I thank God for it.
[29:52] Kim Monson: And so your show is on Monday through Wednesday, 9 to 10 a.
[29:57] Kim Monson: And you're hoping perhaps to grow that a bit in 2023.
[30:00] Matt Dark: We're looking for one more spot there on Thursday.
[30:02] Matt Dark: We'll take as much as we can get.
[30:03] Matt Dark: But, you know, we're an hour a day.
[30:05] Matt Dark: And the hope is this, is that we're impactful in people's lives.
[30:07] Matt Dark: If you get one person that's just thinking about things differently, rethinking things that maybe have been the– what we're learning is conventional thinking and status quo is very dangerous now.
[30:19] Kim Monson: COVID was, it really took, every pun intended, took the mask off of what has been going on out there.
[30:28] Kim Monson: And people are waking up and I think more and more people are waking up every day.
[30:32] Kim Monson: And that's why your show, our show is so important is to help people get their brains around these issues.
[30:38] Matt Dark: Well, and it's connecting people, strengthening people, the bravery, the courage to talk about this stuff in the places that you need to talk about.
[30:45] Matt Dark: Because there's a fellowship amongst those that said, you know what, this doesn't smell right.
[30:51] Matt Dark: And when you feel like your folks are, it doesn't smell right, ask the questions that we didn't ask before.
[30:58] Kim Monson: So, Matt Dark, I wish you and yours and everybody at Roots Medical a very happy new year.
[31:08] Matt Dark: And thank you, Kim, same to you.
[31:09] Matt Dark: And a happy new year to all the listeners.
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[33:06] Kim Monson: This is our fourth year of looking at important documents, important people in our history with Ben Martin.
[33:15] Kim Monson: He is a former Army Ranger, a graduate from West...
[33:20] Kim Monson: And it's just a great honor to pre-record this show for our Christmas week broadcast.
[33:25] Kim Monson: And I thank you so much, Ben Martin, for making this happen.
[33:30] Ben Martin: I'm so happy to introduce many people that probably don't know it to this great document called Washington's Farewell Address, where he gives us valedictory advice about keeping our country strong and keeping our citizenry strong.
[33:47] Kim Monson: Well, and you mentioned in the previous segment that it has political truths in it.
[33:52] Kim Monson: So is that the next place that you'd like to go with this conversation?
[33:55] Ben Martin: Yeah, we're going to talk about it.
[33:56] Ben Martin: Now that we have an understanding, I think everybody that's listening should have an understanding of what the farewell address is, it's time to take a look at some of those specific recommendations and warnings which it contains.
[34:09] Ben Martin: It is a rather lengthy document, approximately 6,100 words, 6,100 words, composed of some 50 paragraphs.
[34:17] Ben Martin: And these paragraphs are divided into a handful of major themes.
[34:24] Ben Martin: And so the first major theme that he addresses, Washington addresses, is his retirement from office, by informing the American people of it and justifying his decision and expressing his gratitude.
[34:36] Ben Martin: So I pulled out a couple of quotes from there that I think kind of give an explanation of this.
[34:41] Ben Martin: Obviously, we can't read it all on the air today.
[34:43] Ben Martin: But in paragraph four of those 50 paragraphs, he says, I rejoice that the state of your concerns, external as well as internal, no longer renders the pursuit of my retirement incompatible with the sentiment of duty or propriety and am persuaded whatever partiality may be rendered for my services that in the present circumstances of our country, you will not disapprove my determination to retire.
[35:20] Ben Martin: In other words, he's saying, you know, that we are a lot stronger now.
[35:23] Ben Martin: There were those critical issues that had to be dealt with at the time when I wanted to first retire at the end of that.
[35:37] Ben Martin: And we have a working government now.
[35:39] Ben Martin: And so I would hope now that you can understand that we are stronger and that the present circumstances, you will not disapprove.
[35:53] Ben Martin: And you will not disapprove my determination to retire.
[35:56] Ben Martin: So he says that in order to let them understand, the people understand, that it's time for him to retire, and he wants to retire.
[36:05] Ben Martin: And then he expresses in paragraph six his gratitude.
[36:11] Ben Martin: And this is kind of, this says it, in looking forward to the moment which is intended to terminate the career of my public life, my feelings do not permit me to suspend the deep acknowledgement of that debt of gratitude, which I owe to my beloved country for the many honors it has conferred upon me.
[36:34] Ben Martin: So he tells everybody he's retiring and that you don't no longer need to worry because the country is much stronger than it was four years ago, and that you will grant me my wishes to retire.
[36:50] Ben Martin: But I have to tell you how grateful I am for having been able to the sir of my beloved country.
[36:55] Ben Martin: And so with that, he goes into paragraph seven and eight, in which he introduces recommended areas for frequent review.
[37:06] Ben Martin: Remember that quote from Marshall about, you know, frequent, not, you know, these are areas that need frequent review.
[37:15] Ben Martin: And he says, a solicitude, an earnest concern for your welfare, which cannot end but with my life.
[37:25] Ben Martin: And the apprehension of danger, natural to that solicitude, that earnest concern, urged me on occasion like the present to offer to your solemn contemplation and to recommend to your frequent review some sentiments, which are the result of much reflection, he's talking about his own reflection, of no inconsiderable observation, and which appear to me all important to the permanency of your felicity as a people, your happiness as a people.
[37:59] Ben Martin: And he said, interwoven as is the love of liberty with every ligament of your hearts, no recommendation of mine is necessary to fortify or confirm the attachment.
[38:16] Ben Martin: And that he's talking about the love of liberty, which is given here, in which, from all my readings, I understand what the founders understood by liberty, and that's the responsible exercise of liberty.
[38:29] Ben Martin: And he's going to talk about that a little bit in here, not using those exact words.
[38:34] Kim Monson: Right, and you have taught that to us, that liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom.
[38:40] Kim Monson: And that is an important takeaway from this farewell address.
[38:48] Ben Martin: I think it's critical to understanding our founding and understanding our government.
[38:53] Ben Martin: And it's one of those principles that throughout the world have been observed.
[38:58] Ben Martin: And when you take away personal responsibility, which we see happening every day today, and that was happening in Lincoln's time, too.
[39:07] Ben Martin: And he made a big point of that in one of his early speeches.
[39:10] Ben Martin: But it's happening today, and we need to take personal responsibility, not do the crazy things that we see happening on the news every day today.
[39:19] Ben Martin: So in paragraphs 9 through 14, he addresses the importance of the preservation of union as the core of American nationhood, the importance of the preservation of union.
[39:32] Ben Martin: And this is the first real subject that is talked about in the Federalist Papers, too, in which the Constitution was based or was explained.
[39:43] Ben Martin: And he said, this is considered the general theme of his farewell address, the importance of the preservation of union as the core of American nationhood.
[39:53] Ben Martin: Washington warned against sectionalism, as you just talked about, and factionalism as a destroyer of common interest and national character.
[40:02] Ben Martin: And we just talked about that when we were talking about Hamilton and Jefferson.
[40:06] Ben Martin: The ties of the Union and the Constitution that made the various parts of our nation one must be cherished as sacred.
[40:15] Ben Martin: The unity of government, which constitutes you one people, is also now dear to you.
[40:23] Ben Martin: It is a main pillar to the edifice of your real independence, the unity of government.
[40:28] Ben Martin: He says, the support of your tranquility at home, your peace abroad, your safety, your prosperity, that very liberty that you so highly prize.
[40:39] Ben Martin: He said, those are all part of this unity of government.
[40:43] Ben Martin: And then he warns him, he says, much pain will be taken, many artifices employed to weaken your minds to that conviction of this truth.
[40:54] Ben Martin: This is the point against which the batteries or the cannons of internal and external enemies will be most constantly directed, though often covertly and insidiously.
[41:08] Ben Martin: And we can see that happening today, Kim.
[41:11] Ben Martin: And he's given us that right now to say you have to watch out for that.
[41:16] Ben Martin: And then he says you are citizens by birth or choice of a common country.
[41:22] Ben Martin: That country has a right to concentrate your affections.
[41:26] Ben Martin: The name of American which belongs to you in your national capacity must always exalt the just pride of patriotism.
[41:36] Ben Martin: More than any appellation, a defined area could derive from local discriminations.
[41:45] Ben Martin: Every portion of our country finds the most commanding motives for carefully guarding and preserving the union of the whole.
[41:56] Ben Martin: Every part of our country feels an interest in union.
[41:58] Ben Martin: All the parts combined cannot fail to find in the united mass of means and efforts greater strength, greater resource, greater security for external danger, and less frequent interruptions of peace by foreign nations.
[42:16] Ben Martin: Every reflection and virtuous mind must embrace the continuance of the Union as a primary object of patriotic desires.
[42:26] Kim Monson: Well, and Ben Martin, think about how important that is right now, where we have at the top of our government that they are fomenting division, where he realized how important unity was.
[42:40] Ben Martin: And he could see it then, you know, people in various sections.
[42:44] Ben Martin: And, you know, one of the things that Washington did, he made that an objective of his presidency, was to visit every state.
[42:51] Ben Martin: And he started by going to the states in New England first, and then he worked his way down.
[42:57] Ben Martin: But he visited everyone, and he understood them.
[43:02] Ben Martin: And in this speech, which I won't get a chance to talk about that that much, but he talks about how the union is connected and how each area serves the other area, serves the interests of the other area.
[43:14] Ben Martin: And that's that thing about we talk about the two objectives of the Constitution are, one, the preservation of our unalienable rights, the rights given to us by our Creator.
[43:26] Ben Martin: And the second most objective of the Constitution is the promotion of the general welfare.
[43:34] Ben Martin: And that's about the compromises that have to be made in our legislature to make rules that benefit everybody, not just a certain segment.
[43:44] Ben Martin: And so he's bringing all of that back.
[43:46] Ben Martin: He's seeing that happening now, just, you know, now during his time, just as we're seeing it now happening in our time.
[43:54] Kim Monson: Well, and he, yeah, he understood this, which is so amazing.
[43:59] Kim Monson: I'm talking with Ben Martin, and we're talking about George Washington's farewell address.
[44:05] Kim Monson: And before we go to break, a great nonprofit is the USMC Memorial Foundation, and they are raising money for the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax.
[44:14] Kim Monson: And as we look at our history, it is so important that we remember and that we keep our history alive.
[44:20] Kim Monson: We honor those that have given us this gift that we have of liberty.
[44:25] Kim Monson: And so it's great that they are doing this remodel.
[44:29] Kim Monson: It was built in 1977, so it's time for a remodel.
[44:32] Kim Monson: And Paula Sarlls and her team, she is a Vietnam veteran, a Marine veteran, and she's also a Gold Star wife.
[44:39] Kim Monson: And they are raising the money to make this happen.
[44:42] Kim Monson: You can help them by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.
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[44:54] Kim Monson: We will be right back with Ben Martin.
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[47:39] Kim Monson: He's a patriotic historian, a former Army Ranger, a West Point grad.
[47:44] Kim Monson: And so he's bringing these stories of our history alive.
[47:47] Kim Monson: We're talking about Washington's farewell address.
[47:51] Kim Monson: So what should we pack into this last nine minutes, Ben Martin?
[47:55] Ben Martin: Let's mention the major themes and let's talk about two of them in detail and then close with what I think is one of the greatest quotes about Washington.
[48:08] Ben Martin: And so in those quotes, we talked first of all about the first major theme, and that was to inform and justify retirement from office.
[48:15] Ben Martin: And then the next theme that we talked about, the first part of it was paragraphs 9 through 14, was union.
[48:22] Ben Martin: You know, the security of union, it is the chief support of this whole edifice of our country, and it's our safety.
[48:36] Ben Martin: And what he's talking in our happiness, and he talks, so that's union.
[48:40] Ben Martin: But then he goes on through 15 through 20 or 19, he also talks about specific parts of union, about guarding the union.
[48:49] Ben Martin: And then after he's done that, so that's a major theme is union, as we talked about before, probably the major theme.
[48:58] Ben Martin: And then another theme that he talks about is the warning about the dangers of party and faction.
[49:06] Ben Martin: But then he goes on to talk about religion and morality is another theme.
[49:14] Ben Martin: Excessive debt, the avoidance of excessive debt is another one.
[49:18] Ben Martin: You know, all of these things are so important today, the war against foreign relations and commercial relations.
[49:24] Ben Martin: And we're seeing that with China, you know, now in our union.
[49:29] Ben Martin: And then he ends, and I want to give some closing thoughts on that.
[49:33] Ben Martin: So that main theme that we talk about, the danger of faction, and this is a quote, baneful effects of the spirit of party, the destructive effects of the spirit of party, one of the two most famous recommendations of the Farewell Address.
[49:47] Ben Martin: In fact, party and the notorious problem of factions were dominant questions and concerns of the founding era.
[49:55] Ben Martin: Specifically, the constitutional...
[50:00] Ben Martin: convention and the ratification thereof.
[50:02] Ben Martin: And he says, faction, as is defined in the 10th of the Federalist Papers, is defined this way, by a faction, and that was Madison that wrote that one, by a faction I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion or of interest, at first to the rights of the other citizens or to the permanent and aggregate interest of the community, the general welfare that we talked about.
[50:38] Ben Martin: And by this well-considered definition, a political party is a faction.
[50:44] Ben Martin: And these factions push their issues at the expense of the common good or, as the founders called it, the general welfare in our Constitution.
[50:55] Ben Martin: It is the worst form of excessive party spirit in its worst form, and it distracts the government, agitates the community, and opens a door to foreign influence and corruption.
[51:11] Kim Monson: Oh, my gosh, it sounds like he's describing right now.
[51:14] Ben Martin: And this is how he explains his understanding of faction.
[51:19] Ben Martin: And he says, this is worse, and there's a quote, it is a fire not to be quenched, because there's liberty in there, too.
[51:27] Ben Martin: It demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.
[51:38] Ben Martin: And that's really important today to understand that he thought we should not have political parties.
[51:47] Ben Martin: And in 27 and 28, the main theme is religion and morality.
[51:51] Ben Martin: And it is a self-governing, in this self-governing nation we have, It is a unifying public opinion that requires enlightenment of formal institution of education and of civic education, too.
[52:07] Ben Martin: And that's understanding what's in the Federalist Papers in this Farewell Address in our Constitution and our Declaration.
[52:17] Ben Martin: It's one of the most quoted passages in the Farewell Address.
[52:22] Ben Martin: Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.
[52:31] Ben Martin: In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens.
[52:42] Ben Martin: He didn't say it's a nice thing to have.
[52:45] Ben Martin: He said they're indispensable supports.
[52:47] Ben Martin: That's what Washington is saying in that thing.
[52:53] Ben Martin: And he says, as he talks about that, let it simply be asked, where is the security for property, for reputation, for life itself, if the censor of a religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in our courts of justice?
[53:13] Ben Martin: And then this is one of the parts that I, this last thing that he adds to it.
[53:18] Ben Martin: And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.
[53:26] Ben Martin: Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason, and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.
[53:42] Ben Martin: And I've used that so much about people that have come to lectures that I have that think that they're above religion.
[53:52] Ben Martin: Religion, you know, is a myth, and it doesn't help.
[53:57] Ben Martin: And he's saying that, you know, whatever may be conceded to those influences of refined education on minds of peculiar discretion, reason and experience.
[54:09] Ben Martin: Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.
[54:18] Ben Martin: And then he adds education to that, and he makes this statement that for education, he says, promote then as an object of primary importance, this is the shortest paragraph in all of Farewell Address, institutions for the general diffusion of knowledge.
[54:35] Ben Martin: in proportion as the structure of government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened.
[54:47] Ben Martin: And as Madison says, a well-instructed people alone can be permanently a free people.
[54:51] Kim Monson: And we have just about a minute left on this, Ben.
[54:55] Kim Monson: So how do you want to wrap up this?
[54:58] Ben Martin: I want to wrap it up by a poem that was written by a famous British poet, a world-famous British poet named Lord Byron.
[55:07] Ben Martin: And he closes this epic poem that he wrote about Napoleon and all these people, these great men, and they all end, you know, disappointments to him.
[55:18] Ben Martin: And he says this, and this is his closing verse of that epic poem.
[55:23] Ben Martin: And he says, Where may the weary eye repose when gazing on the great?
[55:29] Ben Martin: where neither guilty glory glows nor despicable state.
[55:37] Ben Martin: The one, the first, the last, the best, the Cincinnatus of the West who envy dare not hate bestowed the name Washington to make men blush.
[55:56] Kim Monson: Ben Martin, thank you so much and I'm excited about what we'll be doing in 2023.
[56:02] Kim Monson: I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a blessed and prosperous 2023.
[56:08] Ben Martin: You too, Kim, and all of your listeners, yes.
[56:12] Kim Monson: So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[56:26] Kim Monson: God bless you and God bless America.
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[57:53] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[57:58] Kim Monson: As you know, we've been pre-recording these shows for broadcast during the week between Christmas and New Year's.
[58:04] Kim Monson: And there's just some golden nuggets of information there.
[58:08] Kim Monson: But I am so thrilled to have on the line with me Jeffrey Tucker.
[58:11] Kim Monson: He is the founder and president of the Brownstone Institute.
[58:15] Kim Monson: And he says his main interest is adding value to the great project of human liberty.
[58:20] Kim Monson: Jeffrey Tucker, I have been watching and reading your pieces for quite some time, and I'm just thrilled to have this conversation with you.
[58:32] Kim Monson: There's so much to talk about, but I think the first thing is you had written a piece recently regarding the Twitter files just the beginning.
[58:44] Kim Monson: And we are seeing more and more information come out at this particular point in time.
[58:48] Kim Monson: And again, we're pre-recording this.
[58:51] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts about these Twitter files?
[58:54] Jeffrey Tucker: More and more information is coming out that the censorship began pretty early on in lockdowns in the spring of 2020..
[59:08] Jeffrey Tucker: I think the goal was to prevent people who thought there was something wrong from finding each other.
[59:21] Jeffrey Tucker: So they banned accounts, de-throttled things, limited searches.
[59:28] Jeffrey Tucker: That had a very interesting practical effect on those of us who were incredulous about these lockdowns from the very beginning and really were unconvinced that, you know, COVID was some sort of existential threat that required the abolition of the Bill of Rights and normal human liberties, and so on.
[59:57] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, I started writing against the lockdowns in January of 2020.
[60:00] Jeffrey Tucker: And then again in the first week of March, once the lockdowns started sort of happening.
[60:09] Jeffrey Tucker: And I couldn't understand why I couldn't seem to get other people to agree with me.
[60:14] Jeffrey Tucker: And I couldn't understand why there were so few people speaking out about it.
[60:21] Jeffrey Tucker: And we know now, in retrospect, what was actually happening was that Twitter had a number of employees that were sort of ready for it, and they put in place a whole apparatus that prevented us from finding each other.
[60:37] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, it was the better part of six months before I started running into people that held the same view.
[60:47] Jeffrey Tucker: So I'd see an essay on LinkedIn or I'd see somebody in Newsweek magazine or read something.
[60:52] Jeffrey Tucker: And then I would go to the Twitter page and then follow their followers.
[60:58] Jeffrey Tucker: And that was the method by which, eventually, we were able to cobble together enough people to put out the Great Barrington Declaration.
[61:09] Jeffrey Tucker: But we're only finding out now, thanks to Elon's sort of revelations, not all of which have come out.
[61:16] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, we're still waiting for another batch of this coming weekend.
[61:21] Jeffrey Tucker: But that's a censorship and throttling really began very early on.
[61:25] Jeffrey Tucker: And it wasn't just because Twitter didn't like people who were saying things like this.
[61:29] Jeffrey Tucker: It's that there was a systematic effort to keep us from finding out about each other in the interest of creating this sort of single story, the single narrative, the single line that, of course, you have to lock down because of this bad virus.
[61:50] Kim Monson: Well, and it was just reported, we had it on our headlines today, that the U.
[61:57] Kim Monson: government actually had a, you know, a direct line into Twitter.
[62:03] Kim Monson: I have to see if I can find the exact title on that.
[62:08] Kim Monson: But, you know, the argument through this whole thing of private companies should be able to, well, private or public companies, but not government, should, you know, they're private companies, they have freedom to decide who they do business with or not.
[62:26] Kim Monson: And as a free market girl, I'm like, okay, I get that.
[62:29] Kim Monson: But we find out that, oh, no, no, no, that government and Twitter and these big tech were in direct contact with each other.
[62:41] Kim Monson: And that's antithetical to the First Amendment, what is supposed to happen.
[62:48] Jeffrey Tucker: The government can't use private entities to do what they're otherwise forbidden from doing as public entities.
[62:57] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, basically, you had most of the main tech and media platforms were effectively nationalized in the spring of 2020 and following in a way that would constitute basically 99%of all communication channels for Americans and many people around the world.
[63:18] Jeffrey Tucker: So, you know, we're talking about Facebook and LinkedIn and Twitter and Google and then also Amazon, and all their associated institutions like Amazon Web Services and then WhatsApp and Instagram and all the things they own, all the various entities that they own, and then many of their suppliers that worked with them.
[63:46] Jeffrey Tucker: At the same time, the government was sending out orders to socially distance and so on.
[63:56] Kim Monson: As I look back, it's like a bad dream.
[64:00] Kim Monson: I remember driving over to the station and there was hardly any cars on the road.
[64:05] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking, did the rapture happen?
[64:28] Kim Monson: And that's what's difficult for people to believe in the best in people.
[64:35] Kim Monson: That's difficult for people to get their brain around that.
[64:44] Jeffrey Tucker: And as you know, with Brownstone, I'm spending all my time thinking this through and trying to figure out why and how this went so badly.
[64:53] Jeffrey Tucker: and I feel like I'm just getting to the bottom of it and there's so many angles to it.
[64:59] Jeffrey Tucker: You know, I think the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency, CISA, was very much part of it.
[65:09] Jeffrey Tucker: The person who handled all the content curation at Twitter was fired by Musk and immediately hired by CISA.
[65:31] Kim Monson: So I'm talking with Jeffrey Tucker, and he is the CEO and he's the founder and president of the Brownstone Institute.
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[68:21] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[68:26] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[68:31] Kim Monson: Jeffrey Tucker is on the line with me.
[68:33] Kim Monson: He is the founder and president of the Brownstone Institute.
[68:36] Kim Monson: He writes daily for the Epoch Times, very important pieces that he writes.
[68:42] Kim Monson: Jeffrey, you said something in the last segment was that it seemed like all of this happened at once.
[68:50] Kim Monson: So it seems like there was planning on all of this because there's no way it could just organically all happen at once, right?
[69:06] Jeffrey Tucker: They moved to Italy, which has a lot of China connections.
[69:20] Jeffrey Tucker: Had the better part of February to figure out what the response was going to be to the growing perception they had that there was a bioweapon, or at least that's what they claimed.
[69:30] Jeffrey Tucker: there's a bioweapon coming from China, what should we do about it?
[69:33] Jeffrey Tucker: And they really needed to lean on Trump to approve the lockdowns, but they had, which he eventually did, but they had several weeks ahead of that to plan what really amounted to a national security style response, put the whole country on a wartime footing that you would have in the event of a bioweapon, I suppose.
[70:02] Jeffrey Tucker: And so probably the entire apparatus was in place by about February 26, 2020.
[70:10] Jeffrey Tucker: And then the big lockdown orders were released from Health and Human Services on March 13, a couple weeks later, one day after the announcement of the travel restrictions from all over the world.
[70:24] Jeffrey Tucker: And then they had the weekend to kind of lean on Trump and say, you know, basically you have to do this.
[70:34] Jeffrey Tucker: And so the big press conference happened on March 16th.
[70:37] Jeffrey Tucker: And then two days later after that, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency sent out advisories to every public health agency in the country and many aspects of FEMA, Federal Emergency Management Association, and the entirety of the national security apparatus.
[71:01] Jeffrey Tucker: Detailed instructions on what employees, what workers would be considered essential versus those that are unessential, what businesses had to close, which ones could stay open, and so and all that was released on on March 18th and very crucially, not by the National Institutes of Health or the Centers for for disease control, but rather by the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which was newly created only in 2018..
[71:41] Kim Monson: Boy, Jeffrey, I remember when, I'm going down memory lane now.
[71:46] Kim Monson: Now, Trump did not, I mean, didn't he let the states make their decisions on the lockdowns?
[71:52] Kim Monson: Or was it the first, you know, the first two weeks to flatten the curve?
[71:56] Kim Monson: Because I was thinking different states made different decisions on that.
[72:00] Jeffrey Tucker: So it's not possible, actually, for a president of the United States to lock down the whole country.
[72:07] Jeffrey Tucker: But of course, there's no legal mechanism in place to allow that.
[72:13] Jeffrey Tucker: Federal government can be extremely influential in terms because, you know, in terms of his recommendations and that sort of thing.
[72:22] Jeffrey Tucker: And yeah, and so it, you know it can it, can it, can you know, make all sorts of recommendations and sort of lean on people to do this sort of thing.
[72:32] Jeffrey Tucker: Um, but it can't, it can't, uh, it can't force anybody locked down.
[72:38] Jeffrey Tucker: So basically, they tapped a very deep network, um to to, uh, coordinate these responses.
[72:48] Jeffrey Tucker: There was really only one state that completely rejected any lockdowns at all.
[73:06] Kim Monson: And gosh, Jeffrey, when they came out with this essential, non-essential, I mean, it seemed like, as I look back from an economic standpoint, it was an assault on the middle class, on everyday mom and pop businesses.
[73:20] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking, How is this virus so smart that it knows which business is essential and which one isn't?
[73:29] Kim Monson: I mean, it just seemed like a bunch of hooey to me.
[73:37] Jeffrey Tucker: You had an enormous amount of bureaucracies out there that were ready, that had been preparing for the better part of 15 years for some sort of lockdown response to some kind of crisis.
[73:52] Jeffrey Tucker: So they were just, and you know, it's hard to start these bureaucracies solely for the, that are supposed to be deployed in a crisis when there's no crisis, you know, and it, you know, years go by and they're not doing anything.
[74:07] Jeffrey Tucker: They're supposed to be ready for the crisis, but there's no crisis.
[74:10] Jeffrey Tucker: So there was a lot of people sort of itching for something to happen.
[74:23] Jeffrey Tucker: Many people thought that that would be the great moment, but Obama couldn't get interested in it because there was a big financial crisis at the time, so he just kind of blew it off.
[74:45] Jeffrey Tucker: And it had a severity that prevented it from spreading all around the world.
[74:52] Jeffrey Tucker: But, you know, it's hard to know exactly what caused, I'm pretty sure it wasn't, you know, a fear of COVID, that caused the lockdowns.
[75:06] Jeffrey Tucker: It seems to me that it was some sort of quasi-military exercise to test the extent of power of their networks and to give these bureaucrats something to do.
[75:25] Jeffrey Tucker: My actual theory is that they really wanted to get rid of Trump and that there was all sorts of efforts at many levels of the ruling class to get rid of Trump, starting with, of course, the Russia conspiracy thing that Russia had somehow caused Trump to get elected in 2016.
[75:50] Jeffrey Tucker: That didn't work, so then they moved on to the Ukraine thing and tried to impeaching for that.
[75:55] Jeffrey Tucker: So very quickly afterwards, it was absolute pandemonium.
[76:01] Jeffrey Tucker: And by this time, there were just so many people, so many agencies involved and the national media and just the anti-Trumpism in this country was just among the ruling class.
[76:12] Jeffrey Tucker: Corporate, media, big tech, government, everybody just wanted this guy gone.
[76:18] Jeffrey Tucker: And so if you were going to press me into saying, okay, what's the one thing that tripped this trigger?
[76:30] Kim Monson: Well, and remember, at that time, the economy was doing very, very well.
[76:37] Kim Monson: People actually had a lot more real dollars in their pocket.
[76:41] Kim Monson: Unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, women were at all-time lows.
[76:45] Kim Monson: People were working instead of being dependent on the government.
[76:53] Kim Monson: And the one thing with Trump on the economy is I was frustrated that he never really got spending reduced.
[77:01] Kim Monson: I mean, taxes went down, rules, regulations.
[77:05] Kim Monson: He's getting rid of those, which I think was helping the economy.
[77:08] Kim Monson: But the spending, and I think, Jeffrey, that he was thinking if we get this thing really humming this economy and lots of people working and paying taxes, lower taxes per person, but you would increase tax revenue that maybe we could start to bite off the deficit and the spending.
[77:28] Kim Monson: What do you think about that, Jeffrey?
[77:32] Jeffrey Tucker: He was great on taxes and regulations, and that was wonderful.
[77:36] Jeffrey Tucker: But the government spending piece, he just paid no attention to it whatsoever.
[77:38] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, he was kind of this way with his enterprises and his business.
[77:46] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, you're going to learn a lot about Trump and predict a lot about how he did things as president based on his own history in enterprise.
[77:57] Jeffrey Tucker: You know, if the money's available, you're going to get it.
[77:59] Jeffrey Tucker: If the money's willing to take the risk for your business, you're going to get the maximum amount you can.
[78:03] Jeffrey Tucker: So, you know, he gets the government just like seemingly infinite amounts of money.
[78:09] Jeffrey Tucker: But he always hated taxes and regulations in business, so he did his best to curb those.
[78:28] Jeffrey Tucker: On March 16th, he handed out a PDF to the national press that had very small print on the backside of page two of this PDF on March 16th that said, all places where people congregate must be closed.
[78:42] Jeffrey Tucker: So a reporter asked him, are you saying that, you know, gyms and nail salons and restaurants and bars and everybody, they didn't say churches, but you're saying that all these businesses have to close?
[78:57] Jeffrey Tucker: And he said, well, we're not willing to take that step yet.
[79:01] Jeffrey Tucker: We're just recommending that people who can stay home, stay home.
[79:06] Jeffrey Tucker: Fauci interrupted him and read from the press release that they had handed out to the press that day.
[79:12] Jeffrey Tucker: Those exact words, all venues where people congregate must be closed.
[79:21] Jeffrey Tucker: While he was reading that, Trump is over on the left side of the podium and gets distracted by somebody in the audience.
[79:28] Jeffrey Tucker: He waves to them, smiles and puts a finger, ha ha ha.
[79:38] Jeffrey Tucker: Is either Trump didn't know that was on the handout that was entered.
[79:48] Jeffrey Tucker: He didn't know that that edict had been issued at all, or he did know it and just didn't want to take responsibility for it.
[79:56] Jeffrey Tucker: But to understand how he got so silly about this whole topic, you really do have to go back to March 12th and 13th, when he was surrounded by Fauci and Deborah Birx and Mike Pence and Jared Kushner and a handful of vaccine executives, and just really a very small team.
[80:20] Jeffrey Tucker: Certainly no more than 10, probably closer to seven.
[80:26] Jeffrey Tucker: and they somehow got him to green light this whole operation.
[80:34] Jeffrey Tucker: And he was somehow, I think very wrongly, under the impressions that he could just turn off the economy and turn it back on again, and then the virus would be gone, which he said in the press conference, and then it would be a big party and he'd be a great hero.
[80:49] Jeffrey Tucker: All right, that's ridiculous that there's many aspects of that scenario that are completely drawn from fantasy.
[81:02] Jeffrey Tucker: Why did he call up his own personal doctor, say: what do you do about a virus?
[81:06] Jeffrey Tucker: Or why didn't he call any epidemiology epidemiology department from any university in the country?
[81:13] Jeffrey Tucker: I think the answer is that they had convinced him that this was of utmost national security importance and that he dare not leak this information out to the public because they were going to solve it there, right there in the White House.
[81:27] Jeffrey Tucker: So by that time, the National Security Council had already, National Security State had already completely had him surrounded.
[81:40] Jeffrey Tucker: And I'm not even sure if he had figured it out, what he would have done about it, because, you know, this goes all the way up to the top.
[81:53] Jeffrey Tucker: That Fauci, of course, and Burks, and also the person who hired Burks.
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[84:03] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[84:10] Kim Monson: You shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[84:12] Kim Monson: And force comes in a lot of different packages.
[84:15] Kim Monson: And one of those is coercion and fear, which we're talking with Jeffrey Tucker.
[84:19] Kim Monson: He is the founder and president of the Brownstone Institute.
[84:28] Kim Monson: You know, there was so many unknowns.
[84:30] Kim Monson: Now, I've got to be thinking about having this inner circle of people that he trusted.
[84:36] Kim Monson: I think from a business standpoint, I think he would surround himself with people that were experts in their fields.
[84:44] Kim Monson: And he kind of let them do their job.
[84:47] Kim Monson: And so when Fauci and Birx were on television all the time, I mean, I think he was deferring to the expertise that he thought that they had.
[84:56] Kim Monson: And then I remember a story that a good friend of his died in New York.
[85:02] Kim Monson: And during that time, they were saying there's body bags outside of hospitals in New York.
[85:07] Kim Monson: I mean, all that could come together to maybe explain his decisions.
[85:13] Jeffrey Tucker: Well, probably, but it's actually sad because there was plenty of doctors throughout all of February saying this has a very low infection fatality rate.
[85:23] Jeffrey Tucker: It's mostly of danger to very elderly with with infirmities.
[85:29] Jeffrey Tucker: And so we actually knew everything we needed to know about this virus from February.
[85:34] Jeffrey Tucker: Not that Trump has told that, but the national media was making just all sorts of frenzy about this.
[85:40] Jeffrey Tucker: You know, the new york hospitals were never overcrowded, by the way, so that you know there were two hospitals that you know had like 24 hours of kind of some intense people showing up and that was might have been not even coveted.
[85:52] Jeffrey Tucker: It might have just been the hysteria that was going on in new york at the time, of people having heart attacks and going, oh my god, what are we going to do?
[86:01] Jeffrey Tucker: There's just so much that was going on in those days.
[86:05] Jeffrey Tucker: But um, but honestly, I really think what what went wrong here is that trump was told, that told that there was private, confidential, classified information, uh, that he needed to know.
[86:27] Jeffrey Tucker: That is very likely a lab leak, might be a bioweapon from Wuhan.
[86:36] Jeffrey Tucker: Therefore, whatever he reads in the papers from the previous three weeks, or whatever doctor he could call, whatever epidemiologist he might be advising him, doesn't know the fundamental facts of the case.
[86:52] Jeffrey Tucker: So he was talked into the view that he had sort of a a front row seat, that he had special classified information that was coming to him.
[87:02] Jeffrey Tucker: And so the decisions he was about to make were entirely based on this sort of private information, to which only the president of the United States would have access.
[87:19] Jeffrey Tucker: So at that point, I guess he had a choice to not go along with him.
[87:25] Jeffrey Tucker: But you can see that they sort of set it up in a way that that made it extremely difficult for him to think for himself.
[87:37] Jeffrey Tucker: And then two weeks later, they came back to him again and said, of course, we need two more weeks.
[87:49] Jeffrey Tucker: And that happened because within the first two weeks of the window of locking down, about 10 days in, Trump said, listen, I'm going to open up this economy by Easter.
[88:03] Jeffrey Tucker: OK, so what's important about that date is that it's past the two week window.
[88:10] Jeffrey Tucker: OK, so he had already indicated in public that he is willing to extend the lockdowns further.
[88:18] Jeffrey Tucker: So that gave great encouragement to the Fauci's and the Burks' and the Pence's and everything else that he'll be willing to take a bigger bite.
[88:28] Jeffrey Tucker: So they were planning to ask for only two weeks more.
[88:31] Jeffrey Tucker: But once he said they were going to open up by Easter, which is long past the two week deadline, they decided to ask for 30 days.
[88:41] Jeffrey Tucker: And that was that was the point at which his presidency was completely over.
[88:45] Jeffrey Tucker: At that point, he just became a kind of marionette, and the National Security Council was entirely in charge of the country.
[88:54] Jeffrey Tucker: And they drove lockdowns as best they could all the way to November in most places.
[89:04] Jeffrey Tucker: The very first state to actually open up was Georgia, if you recall.
[89:08] Jeffrey Tucker: And that was already in April, a little past Easter.
[89:12] Jeffrey Tucker: and it got so bad at some point that Trump actually criticized Governor Kemp for opening it up.
[89:22] Kim Monson (reactions): Oh, that's right.
[89:22] Kim Monson (reactions): I forgot that.
[89:24] Jeffrey Tucker: Yeah, those were chaotic days and it wasn't really until after the Black Lives Matter protests, george floyd protest again and uh, in in june, that that desantis realized that that this is all just, uh, this is all just your british.
[89:45] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, how can it be that you don't get covet if you protest, george floyd, but you do get cold, but if you go to church, I mean come on.
[89:53] Kim Monson: Yeah, exactly exactly, precisely okay.
[89:58] Kim Monson: So that that brings up this next question, because I've talked with a number of my friends, Trump said, as he declared, he's running for president.
[90:06] Kim Monson: And now that we've seen the vaccine and we've seen that there's adverse reactions that have occurred with people.
[90:16] Kim Monson: And anyway, I'll just say adverse reactions.
[90:20] Kim Monson: And Trump had warp speed, which then these adverse reactions can now be blamed on him because the warp speed on the vaccine.
[90:31] Kim Monson: I mean, what a web this is, Jeffrey Tucker.
[90:35] Jeffrey Tucker: So early on, by the way, I did not believe that the purpose of the lockdowns was to wait for a vaccine.
[90:52] Jeffrey Tucker: But after all this time, I've begun to believe that they certainly had a piece of it.
[91:04] Jeffrey Tucker: So I think they were there from the very beginning.
[91:12] Jeffrey Tucker: You know, so, yeah, the vaccine makers were definitely part of it.
[91:21] Jeffrey Tucker: So, yeah, I don't believe that it was entirely a vaccine conspiracy, but there's no question.
[91:29] Jeffrey Tucker: So once you generate a crisis like this, you know, you've got everybody sort of jumping in and winning a piece of it.
[91:36] Jeffrey Tucker: And the vaccine makers were certainly part of that.
[91:39] Jeffrey Tucker: FTX is part of it, too, by the way, the FTX collapse.
[91:42] Jeffrey Tucker: That was founded in 2019 and just so happened to send out tens, hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe as much as a billion dollars to all the nonprofits that were advocating for lockdowns and media companies that gave ProPublica, I don't know, like$ 12 million.
[91:58] Jeffrey Tucker: I've got all the data in a Brownstone Institute article.
[92:07] Kim Monson: We don't have much time on this segment.
[92:12] Kim Monson: Did they ever dream that Elon Musk would buy Twitter?
[92:17] Kim Monson: I mean, this is putting some fly in the ointment for everybody.
[92:27] Kim Monson: Well, I'm just saying that they didn't expect Elon Musk to buy Twitter.
[92:33] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, Elon Musk, by the way, was always a COVID skeptic from the early, early age because he has a lot of businesses in China, a lot of workers in China.
[92:46] Jeffrey Tucker: And when COVID came along, you know, he would definitely have heard about sickness and death from his own factories in China.
[92:57] Jeffrey Tucker: So when he saw China locking down, he was suspicious that this is all just kind of a political maneuver.
[93:04] Jeffrey Tucker: So when the China-style lockdowns came to the United States, he just never believed it.
[93:10] Jeffrey Tucker: And at some point he tweeted out, this COVID stuff is ridiculous.
[93:13] Jeffrey Tucker: Well, he watched in horror over two years, as Twitter became this sort of platform for COVID propaganda, lockdown propaganda, basically CCP propaganda, and was just completely mortified and said, you know what, I'm just going to buy this thing.
[93:33] Jeffrey Tucker: He got stockholders interested, so they couldn't stop him from taking it over.
[93:40] Jeffrey Tucker: So it's been really quite something, really something to see what he's done.
[93:46] Jeffrey Tucker: So this is something, so no plan goes exactly as it's supposed to, But that was definitely a mistake.
[94:00] Jeffrey Tucker: I think eventually Elon Musk, if he survives, will be the key to finding out the deeper story here.
[94:13] Kim Monson: I used to, I've gotten, I'm very frustrated with government coercion.
[94:19] Kim Monson: So this whole thing over on EVs, and I saw how much money Elon Musk made.
[94:25] Kim Monson: And it wasn't because he was selling Teslas.
[94:27] Kim Monson: It was because he was selling these credits to other manufacturers, and he also got a lot of loans from the government.
[94:36] Kim Monson: So I used to not be very impressed with him.
[94:38] Kim Monson: Of course, at that time, he was a darling of the left.
[94:42] Jeffrey Tucker: Now, but, but, you know, the, the, the critical thing here about, about Elon is, um, his mother's, uh, was really, what's her name?
[94:52] Jeffrey Tucker: Anyway, she was a model and a very, very great and mighty woman.
[94:58] Jeffrey Tucker: She was a single mom, uh, a mother of two kids, strong woman.
[95:04] Jeffrey Tucker: and she was, you know, she took them out of South Africa after her marriage fell apart and moved to Canada and just had to make her way on her own, but just happened to have these two extremely bright kids.
[95:24] Jeffrey Tucker: And so they, you know, they were born in South Africa, went through a tough family life, moved to Canada, kind of through grit, you know, made their way there.
[95:31] Jeffrey Tucker: Their mom was always encouraging the kids to pursue their passions and work really hard.
[95:41] Jeffrey Tucker: But they just got a really good formation, a good education from their mom, and a good formation in hard work and enterprise and creativity.
[95:54] Jeffrey Tucker: So Musk, I would say his instincts are essentially libertarian and in favor of human rights, in favor of liberty and that sort of thing.
[96:07] Jeffrey Tucker: And also, normalcy, it doesn't take too much basic penchant for constitutional government and human rights to have objected to this COVID thing.
[96:17] Jeffrey Tucker: So his whole life had kind of prepared him for this.
[96:20] Kim Monson: It's absolutely fascinating to watch Jeffrey Tucker.
[96:23] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll have our final segment of this pre-recorded interview that we're doing with Jeffrey Tucker.
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[99:06] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[99:10] Kim Monson: And on the line with me is Jeffrey Tucker.
[99:13] Kim Monson: He is the founder and president of the Brownstone Institute.
[99:18] Kim Monson: And be sure and check out his writings at brownstone.
[99:21] Kim Monson: And also he writes every day for the Epoch Times.
[99:25] Kim Monson: You mentioned in this last segment that FTX was in on this whole thing and explain that a little bit, jeffrey.
[99:40] Jeffrey Tucker: Alameda research was founded in 2017 to be, I forget, too conspiratorial, but uh, it was supposed to.
[99:46] Jeffrey Tucker: It was founded, I would say it's basically, as a money laundering operation, um and and and sam Bankman Freed was sort of tapped to be.
[100:01] Jeffrey Tucker: He, he, uh, he went along with what his mom and dad and his aunt said.
[100:06] Jeffrey Tucker: His mom is a graduate of harvard professor at stanford university, barbara helen freed, who ran mind the gap, which is a very secretive political action committee in silicon valley.
[100:21] Jeffrey Tucker: In silicon valley, you know, definitely wanted to get trump.
[100:29] Jeffrey Tucker: Father alan joseph bankman, yale yale grad, also professor at stanford, and his aunt was the dean of public school public health at columbia university.
[100:41] Jeffrey Tucker: By 2019, uh, alan mina was was was getting bc funding and then also already being used as a money laundering operation to hand out money to pandemic planning kind of things.
[101:02] Jeffrey Tucker: So by 2019, when FTX kind of fired up, and by the way, I'm involved with crypto space.
[101:17] Jeffrey Tucker: And just out of nowhere, in the better part of 18 months, he went from barely existing to being the second largest crypto exchange in the world.
[101:29] Jeffrey Tucker: And also in the guise of effective altruism, giving away as much money as possible.
[101:38] Jeffrey Tucker: VCs were paying Bankman-Fried and customers were depositing money there.
[101:41] Jeffrey Tucker: He was shoveling it over to Alameda, who then in turn gave it out to all sorts of institutions.
[101:46] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, one of which was the TOGETHER trial, which they had funded very heavily, which is a trial run of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin that concluded that neither work.
[102:01] Jeffrey Tucker: They gave a lot of money to the guy who wrote, to the guy who headed up the Operation Warp Speed.
[102:08] Jeffrey Tucker: They gave tens of millions of dollars to vaccine companies.
[102:18] Jeffrey Tucker: It's Slawe, I guess his name is, the head of Operation Warp Speed.
[102:27] Jeffrey Tucker: But they also gave to Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security that ran Event 201.
[102:34] Jeffrey Tucker: His brother ran a thing called Guarding Against Pandemics.
[102:40] Jeffrey Tucker: They gave him at least a million dollars, but probably a lot more than that.
[102:42] Jeffrey Tucker: to a political action committee run by both Sam and Gabriel called Protect Our Future.
[102:51] Jeffrey Tucker: They gave money to Stanford University, of all places, only$ 1.
[102:56] Jeffrey Tucker: But they gave$ 5 million or as much as$ 27 million to ProPublica, which is a media outlet that was pumping up pro-pandemic propaganda and so on.
[103:09] Jeffrey Tucker: So anyway, I guess I could just go through this list.
[103:18] Jeffrey Tucker: I think, my own opinion is that FTX was founded to be a dark money operation that gave, as we know, mostly to Democratic candidates.
[103:30] Jeffrey Tucker: They were the second largest donor to the Democratic Party going into the midterms.
[103:35] Jeffrey Tucker: And that was the whole purpose of the thing from the beginning, was just to front for this sort of pandemic plot, to to get rid of trump and otherwise lock down the country and wreck everything.
[103:46] Jeffrey Tucker: And so you know, if you look at you know the bookends of ftx, it goes from 2019 to you know, one week after the midterms of 2020, during which time it gave out, as you know, maybe it's 10 million, 10, sorry 10 billion, maybe.
[104:04] Jeffrey Tucker: And I'm not even sure that Bankman Freed knows at this point, but I think that was the whole purpose of the thing in the first place.
[104:12] Jeffrey Tucker: There's a couple of key players at FTX that are still missing.
[104:20] Jeffrey Tucker: One is Nishad Singh, who was a former roommate who seems to have built the FTX platform.
[104:25] Jeffrey Tucker: But he's now in India and I don't think anybody's heard from him.
[104:31] Jeffrey Tucker: The other guy is a graduate of MIT who worked for Google and left Google to go to work for Alameda Research and FTX.
[104:50] Jeffrey Tucker: Almost nothing is known about about this guy at all.
[104:58] Jeffrey Tucker: And he's gone, left the country, reported to be in Hong Kong.
[105:03] Jeffrey Tucker: And I cannot in any sense verify this, but I talked to some people two nights ago in D.
[105:16] Jeffrey Tucker: They're almost certain that if there is a CCP connection to FTX, it's this guy.
[105:22] Kim Monson: So, Jeffrey, I thought it was very interesting that Bankman Freed was scheduled to testify at a congressional hearing and the day before he is arrested in the Bahamas.
[105:40] Jeffrey Tucker: The reason for that was to prevent him from self-incriminating and incriminating the others.
[105:47] Jeffrey Tucker: They wanted him to shut up and enjoy Fifth Amendment protections and Miranda rights, all that kind of stuff, and be advised by lawyers to just plead the Fifth.
[105:54] Jeffrey Tucker: So, yeah, that was the purpose of that prosecution.
[105:57] Jeffrey Tucker: And you notice the guy who's now in charge of the FTX operation named Ray, I forget his first name, John Ray, I think.
[106:04] Jeffrey Tucker: Anyway, it says, oh, their accounting was terrible.
[106:08] Jeffrey Tucker: So we don't really even know where all the money went.
[106:10] Jeffrey Tucker: So I think what's happening right now is we're going to throw Bankman Freed under the bus and let everybody else get away with it.
[106:19] Jeffrey Tucker: And then everything else will be locked up in court order and we'll never really find out what's what.
[106:26] Jeffrey Tucker: At least that seems to be what's going on right now.
[106:28] Jeffrey Tucker: You know, with Twitter now being run by Elon, maybe we're going to find out a lot more.
[106:36] Jeffrey Tucker: But there's a lot of people very interested in this case, finding out, you know, when$ 10 billion goes missing, and, you know, ends up participating in driving Trump out of office and then defeating the Republicans in the Senate.
[106:52] Jeffrey Tucker: You know, there's very high-level operations going on here.
[107:01] Jeffrey Tucker: And those of us who are working really hard to investigate this and get the truth out are, you know, we ourselves are targets.
[107:11] Jeffrey Tucker: I mean, I was throttled by Twitter very early on in the spring of 2020 and just recently opened up.
[107:18] Jeffrey Tucker: We're living in very, I would say, sort of scary times for a lot of people and for the future of the country.
[107:25] Jeffrey Tucker: because we have to find out the truth about this and claw it back, claw back our rights and liberties, or else we're just completely sunk.
[107:34] Kim Monson: Well, and that's why the work that you're doing is so important.
[107:38] Kim Monson: And a little bit of light, though, goes a long way.
[107:43] Kim Monson: And I think we are in dangerous times, but it's super interesting times as well because all these things were being put in place.
[107:52] Kim Monson: Everyday people didn't know what was going on.
[107:56] Kim Monson: And so there's some light that's being shed that if we didn't know, the country was, I think, continued to head towards destruction, disaster.
[108:05] Kim Monson: So I'm encouraged that there's so many people working to get the truth out.
[108:10] Kim Monson: Jeffrey, we've got just a couple of minutes left.
[108:17] Jeffrey Tucker: We don't really have a lot of people relying on lawsuits.
[108:25] Jeffrey Tucker: It's not really my area, but I'm glad they're taking place.
[108:27] Jeffrey Tucker: But we shouldn't forget that judicial systems really only respond once public opinion has adapted over to the new realities.
[108:35] Jeffrey Tucker: And so we face a huge thicket right now to get through to the masses of people, to explain to them what happened to the liberties, and we need to do it every single day.
[108:49] Jeffrey Tucker: Until recently, we didn't even have any big tech platform that was willing to let us talk.
[108:57] Jeffrey Tucker: But meanwhile LinkedIn and Facebook and all the rest of them are still closed.
[109:01] Jeffrey Tucker: The major media, as you can tell, is just doing its desperate best to change the subject and not talk about anything at all.
[109:08] Jeffrey Tucker: So the most important thing we do right now is seek out alternative sources of information and just don't relent.
[109:17] Jeffrey Tucker: We've got to get the, we've got to find out the truth and we've got to get the truth out.
[109:20] Jeffrey Tucker: It's the most important weapon we have is battling in the world of public opinion and ideas.
[109:35] Kim Monson: And Jeffrey Tucker is the the founder and president of Brownstone Institute, and he writes regularly for the Epoch Times.
[109:45] Kim Monson: Jeffrey, it's just been a delight to have you on the show.
[109:52] Kim Monson: So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[110:07] Kim Monson: God bless you and God bless America.