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[00:54] Kim Monson: He is, I would say you are a full-fledged author now.
[00:58] Kim Monson: We started, initially you said, are you sure?
[01:00] Kim Monson: I was giving you all these different titles, but it's great to have you in studio.
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[01:27] Producer Steve: Fantastic Friday.
[01:29] Producer Steve: Here again.
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[01:51] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[02:00] Kim Monson: If the free stuff is just to get you to vote for it, socialism is such a bad idea, it has to come down to force.
[02:07] Kim Monson: And my friends, they try to couch this force in compassion, but it is never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, their freedom, or their livelihood via force.
[02:18] Kim Monson: And there's a lot of different ways, weapon, policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, or this globalist elite's agenda.
[02:31] Kim Monson: They've been working at it for quite some time.
[02:32] Kim Monson: And if you used to talk about it, Producer Steve, they'd say you have a tin hat.
[02:37] Kim Monson: Well, it's not tin hat if it's true.
[02:39] Producer Steve: Well, and election integrity after the 2020 election, the suspicion was out there that, hey, something is not right here.
[02:48] Producer Steve: And that cocky, arms folded approach.
[02:51] Producer Steve: Prove it.
[02:51] Producer Steve: Prove it.
[02:52] Producer Steve: Well, given a little bit of time.
[02:54] Kim Monson: It looks like there's more and more information coming out about election manipulation.
[03:00] Kim Monson: And so I've coined this new term, election manipulation deniers.
[03:08] Allen Thomas: I mean, it's so accurate, especially the way social media covered for Biden and in the mainstream news media, just suppressing actual truth, calling it conspiracy theory, and then, lo and behold, a year later, actually, it might be true.
[03:21] Kim Monson: Yeah, we see with the Dinesh D'Souza's 2,000 Mules.
[03:25] Producer Steve: Yes, and that's coming back.
[03:26] Producer Steve: I guess enough, excuse me, how they did that, but the request went back to his organization to put it in the theaters again.
[03:37] Producer Steve: Yes.
[03:38] Kim Monson: Okay, and then, of course, Molly Hemingway's book, Rigged.
[03:40] Kim Monson: how how did she say that how the democrats seized the election or something she didn't say manipulated but seized so super super interesting um information is coming out on that so Allen Thomas first thing uh i want to congratulate you this most recent essay that you had done that we put on the kim Monson website the ultimate rivalry states rights versus the federal government and And I've just got to look at this.
[04:12] Kim Monson: And it's reached almost 31,000 people.
[04:17] Kim Monson: And I know there's that question whether or not to stay on Facebook.
[04:20] Kim Monson: And he said, Kim, you have an opportunity to reach people that you may not in other ways.
[04:27] Kim Monson: And so with that, we decided to do it.
[04:31] Kim Monson: But this particular essay recently reached 31,000 people, had almost 7,600 engagements, 4,700 likes, 425 comments, and 724 shares.
[04:47] Kim Monson: And it's titled, The Ultimate Rivalry, States' Rights vs.
[04:55] Allen Thomas: And you know, it's a lot of fun when an article almost purely based on the Federalist Papers.
[05:00] Allen Thomas: This founding document that the founding fathers used to try and sell the idea of the Constitution can get so much engagement.
[05:09] Allen Thomas: And we were talking before the show how it was just perfect timing, too.
[05:13] Allen Thomas: You know, it came right before the Supreme Court leak about Roe v.
[05:16] Allen Thomas: Wade and this whole idea of abortion going back to the states and the states having a right to figure out what to have these moral and virtuous discussions.
[05:27] Allen Thomas: and that that's something that shouldn't happen at a federal level, it's pretty awesome.
[05:32] Allen Thomas: And I'm glad that, again, an article about the Federalist Papers is getting so much traction.
[05:42] Kim Monson: We've realized, and Steve as well, that language is so important.
[05:45] Kim Monson: And I hear many different news organizations saying that Roe v.
[05:54] Kim Monson: Steve, I don't think that's really the correct word.
[05:56] Kim Monson: I think it's going to be pushed back to the states, but what do you think?
[06:03] Producer Steve: No.
[06:05] Producer Steve: Well, again, it's this quest to get on top with the narrative, but to get people all stirred up and keep them stirred up is to say, oh, they're going to overturn Roe versus Wade, and that's not true.
[06:15] Kim Monson: Which the implication is is then outlawing abortion.
[06:18] Kim Monson: And I think, again, the language is to get people whipped up because they don't totally understand that it's a decision that's moving back to the states.
[06:26] Producer Steve: And they're doubling down.
[06:28] Producer Steve: Last week, the White House, I guess it was the day that Biden left for Asia, the White House comes out and says, well, you see, if you let them do this, they're going to go after gay marriage.
[06:39] Producer Steve: And I think that is not true.
[06:41] Producer Steve: And you're trying to link those two topics together.
[06:44] Producer Steve: To try to get more people whipped up.
[06:46] Producer Steve: That's it.
[06:46] Producer Steve: Exactly.
[06:46] Producer Steve: Exactly.
[06:53] Allen Thomas: You know, I'm not sure what the right word necessarily is, but it is rhetoric and it is something that as conservatives, we don't play very well.
[07:05] Allen Thomas: Wade as opposed to pro states rights or pro life.
[07:09] Allen Thomas: And, you know, we just have to stick to our principles and we have to just be more persuasive and don't buy into it.
[07:16] Allen Thomas: And don't you have to argue beyond the argument, right?
[07:19] Allen Thomas: Instead of arguing whether it's overturning Roe v.
[07:21] Allen Thomas: Wade, it's twisting it and saying, you know what?
[07:24] Allen Thomas: We're not going to argue about whether it's Roe v.
[07:26] Allen Thomas: Let's talk about whether states should have the power and authority to do this or not.
[07:33] Kim Monson: You actually get us to the bigger picture.
[07:35] Kim Monson: And so in the third and fourth segment, we'll be talking about your piece, your new one coming out.
[07:40] Kim Monson: Do not cross the line, which I think is going to be a really interesting conversation.
[07:46] Kim Monson: But let's go to our quote for the day.
[07:51] Kim Monson: And I thought because we talked about the Federalist Papers and thought it would be good to go to Alexander Hamilton for our quote for the day.
[08:02] Kim Monson: And Alexander Hamilton was an American revolutionary statesman and founding father of the United States.
[08:07] Kim Monson: He was an influential interpreter and promoter of the U.S.
[08:10] Kim Monson: Constitution, founder of the Federalist Party, as well as a founder of the nation's financial system, the United States Coast Guard, and the New York Post newspaper.
[08:26] Kim Monson: And that was one of the ways that sometimes gentlemen would settle their differences.
[08:34] Kim Monson: And, of course, Aaron Burr, you and I both heard that Hamilton did the gentlemanly thing in the duel and shot his pistol not at Burr, but Burr actually shot Alexander Hamilton.
[08:46] Kim Monson: And so Hamilton was like 47 or 49 when he died, and it was really a great thinker that died that day.
[08:54] Allen Thomas: And, you know, actually the play Hamilton is actually really well done.
[09:00] Allen Thomas: They kind of go over some of the conspiracy, and Burr tries to defend his shot, you know.
[09:05] Allen Thomas: But it actually is pretty historically accurate.
[09:09] Allen Thomas: And he wrote like he was running out of time.
[09:12] Allen Thomas: And it shows, you know, he was an author on a vast majority of the Federalist Papers, depending on the Constitution.
[09:20] Allen Thomas: Thank heavens he wrote like he was running out of time because his life was cut tragically short.
[09:26] Kim Monson: Well, and he was the product of an unplanned pregnancy.
[09:31] Kim Monson: And they don't know for sure when he was born.
[09:33] Kim Monson: but he was a product of an unplanned pregnancy and and there was all kinds of stories about that but just think about this that if he had been aborted we would not have this great mind that was so influential in the founding of the american republic that's so true yeah and so when we talk about this whole abortion issue we need to remember remember that so here we go here is the quote for the day, and that is, a sacred respect for the constitutional law is the vital principle, the sustaining energy of a free government.
[10:08] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Allen Thomas?
[10:11] Kim Monson: Yeah, maybe let's read it one more time.
[10:13] Kim Monson: A sacred respect for the constitutional law is the vital principle, the sustaining energy of a free government.
[10:20] Allen Thomas: And, you know, they always talk about these subjects, and they're so deep with their thoughts.
[10:26] Allen Thomas: And it is kind of crazy to think that we have kind of two sets of laws.
[10:30] Allen Thomas: We have constitutional law, and then we have, you know, what everybody thinks when you think of acts and bills and what Congress actually passes.
[10:37] Allen Thomas: And it's so unique to actually have a constitution that is a supreme law of the land that we can go back to and we can say, okay, no matter what Congress says now, if it contradicts what the constitution allows, then it's not allowed to be law.
[10:52] Allen Thomas: And And that's so unique in history, whereas most countries don't have a written constitution that codifies rights and liberties and the power and authority of governments.
[11:04] Kim Monson: Right, and the proper rule of government.
[11:06] Kim Monson: And so we'll continue on with that conversation because constitutional law is different than this bureaucratic law that we have going on, this administrative law that is so prevalent right now, excuse me, here in the United States of America.
[11:25] Kim Monson: And in the third and fourth segment, we'll be talking about his new essay, which is Do Not Cross the Line, which is really going to make us all think as well.
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[14:04] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[14:10] Kim Monson: Allen Thomas is in studio, and we're going to be talking about his new essay here in this third and fourth segment.
[14:18] Kim Monson: But, Allen Thomas, your most recent essay was just amazing.
[14:23] Kim Monson: The ultimate rivalry, states' rights versus the federal government.
[14:26] Kim Monson: The amount of interest in this is just off the charts, which is exciting to see so many people hungry to talk about this subject.
[14:37] Allen Thomas: And again, to talk about why our government is shaped the way it is.
[14:41] Allen Thomas: And, you know, that's one of the great downfalls of our education system now is not having a dedicated civics class because that core civic knowledge was something that the founding fathers anticipated for the citizens of the U.S.
[14:57] Allen Thomas: And the reasons why we do things, they didn't just willy-nilly pull numbers out of the hat when they thought about terms for the senators or representatives or president.
[15:06] Allen Thomas: These were very well-reasoned, very well-thought-out ideas.
[15:11] Allen Thomas: And returning us to this, wait, why do we have the electoral college?
[15:20] Allen Thomas: Why do states have the sovereignty that they do?
[15:22] Allen Thomas: So going back to the Federalist Papers and really diving into these pretty heady ideas is important for us to know and understand and be able to participate in our government.
[15:35] Kim Monson: And mentioning how government was organized, when Zach was looking for the image for this last piece that you've written, this image that he found, I think it's absolutely beautiful.
[15:47] Kim Monson: So I recommend people check that out at the website as well.
[15:51] Allen Thomas: Oh, I mean, Zach outdoes himself every single month, I feel like.
[15:57] Allen Thomas: It shows the interactions between the states and the federal government and the different roles and responsibilities and the proper role of government for each.
[16:07] Kim Monson: I think, again, it's beautiful and you could learn a lot.
[16:12] Kim Monson: I'm sure when it's bigger, it really explains things.
[16:16] Kim Monson: But we're coming into Memorial Day.
[16:18] Kim Monson: And when we talk about force, there are many Americans that have actually given their lives fighting force, fighting bad guys, people that want to be dictators over other people's lives.
[16:33] Kim Monson: And Memorial Day, Steve always says it's not about furniture sales and barbecues.
[16:40] Kim Monson: although that has become part of it, and I'm grateful for that, but it really is about stopping and remembering about those who have given the ultimate sacrifice so that we can go shopping for furniture or get together with loved ones with barbecues.
[17:01] Kim Monson: 45, and the nonprofit that I'm really supporting is the USMCMemorialFoundation.
[17:06] Kim Monson: They're raising money to remodel the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax, and they'll have the stories there.
[17:14] Kim Monson: It's so important that we know these stories.
[17:16] Kim Monson: That's why we do the America's Veterans Story Show, is so that we know our stories and know our history.
[17:21] Kim Monson: Because if you don't know your history, you're doomed to repeat it.
[17:25] Kim Monson: And so be sure and join us about 1.
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[17:32] Kim Monson: You can support them by going to the USMCMemorialFoundation.
[17:37] Kim Monson: You can buy a brick to honor one of your loved ones, and they'll have that in one of the walkways that they will have there.
[17:42] Kim Monson: And so it's really just a great thing to do.
[17:45] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts about Memorial Day, Allen Thomas?
[17:48] Allen Thomas: I just want to thank every veteran and every family of veterans who have participated in them defending our freedom.
[17:55] Allen Thomas: It goes beyond just the people actually serving in the force.
[17:59] Allen Thomas: You know, it's the mothers and kids that don't get to see their dad for months on end or vice versa.
[18:07] Allen Thomas: And, you know, just thank you so much for everything that you do because we wouldn't have the country we do without your help and your defense of our liberty.
[18:17] Kim Monson: And those that have given the ultimate sacrifice, there are those that are, that affects as well.
[18:22] Kim Monson: And I don't know if you know this story.
[18:23] Kim Monson: So this weekend I'm doing something really, really exciting.
[18:30] Kim Monson: And my dad, one of his oldest cousins, was killed at Pearl Harbor.
[18:37] Kim Monson: And I've told this story, so I know many of you have heard it here, but I'll retell it again if you haven't heard that.
[18:42] Kim Monson: And so all of those remains, he was on the USS Oklahoma battleship, and some of those remains could not be identified, and they were put into a common grave at the Punchbowl in Honolulu.
[18:56] Kim Monson: And in the early 2010, 12, something along there, one of my dad's cousins was asked by the U.
[19:02] Kim Monson: Well, I guess three of them gave it, was asked by the Navy for some DNA sampling.
[19:07] Kim Monson: And in 2015, the process started, and they were actually able to identify the remains of my dad's oldest cousin.
[19:15] Unknown reaction: Oh, wow.
[19:16] Kim Monson: So my father, who is in a nursing home, is the oldest living relative of Wilbur Newton.
[19:21] Kim Monson: And right before, right around thanksgiving time last year, my mom received a call from the uss or from the u.
[19:29] Kim Monson: S navy and they said we're looking for my father.
[19:31] Kim Monson: She was very suspect and they explained that they had identified wilbur's remains and that my father, as the oldest living relative, needed to let them know what to do with those, and I talked to the, the guy from the Navy as well.
[19:48] Kim Monson: And I said, I don't know what my dad's going to say, but gosh, Wilbur's been at the Punchbowl all these years.
[19:53] Kim Monson: I guess he'd probably say keep him there, but I don't know.
[19:57] Kim Monson: Well, my sister-in-law and my brother did some research and Wilbur and a bunch of my other cousins as well did some research.
[20:05] Kim Monson: And Wilbur was from Mound City, Missouri.
[20:07] Kim Monson: My grandfather's oldest sister had moved there.
[20:11] Kim Monson: And there's a marker there that the family put.
[20:15] Kim Monson: And I, you know, memorializing him.
[20:19] Kim Monson: And I just thought about the emotion when they put that marker there.
[20:25] Kim Monson: Now they've passed on his mother and his sisters and his, and so my dad saw that and they said, bring him home.
[20:34] Kim Monson: So he is being flown to Kansas City with an escort, and he's on the 28th.
[20:44] Kim Monson: There will be a ceremony at the Methodist Church, and there will be a horse-drawn carriage taking his casket to that cemetery, and he's going to come home.
[20:59] Kim Monson: A whole bunch of my cousins are going to be there, so it's so fitting for Memorial Day.
[21:04] Kim Monson: So anyway, we need to remember those that gave the last full measure of devotion so that we can sit here and talk about these important issues.
[21:16] Kim Monson: Alexander Hamilton was talking about that.
[21:19] Kim Monson: We've gotten away from constitutional law with this big administrative, bureaucratic state, where instead we've moved to a compliant state.
[21:29] Kim Monson: And I think Americans are good people.
[21:34] Kim Monson: But a lot of these laws are not constitutional, and a lot of these rules and regulations are not constitutional.
[21:43] Kim Monson: And instead of a free society, it's moving us to a compliance society.
[21:46] Kim Monson: And I can feel that on a regular basis, Allen Thomas.
[21:50] Allen Thomas: Well, it's also a little bit of laziness on Americans' part.
[21:54] Allen Thomas: They like to view the federal government as the solver of all their problems, which is a very progressive idea.
[22:01] Allen Thomas: that these politicians, bureaucrats can just fix your life.
[22:14] Allen Thomas: And a lot of that was the issue that we had with COVID- is we looked to the federal government to solve our problems, as opposed to our state governments, which is how the founding fathers viewed these sort of virtuous and moral issues.
[22:27] Allen Thomas: Those weren't things that they saw the federal government being in charge of.
[22:31] Allen Thomas: Those were things that they believed virtue should be legislated locally.
[22:36] Allen Thomas: Because, you know, the federal government can't really legislate these issues across all 50 states or at the time 13 states.
[22:43] Allen Thomas: I mean, there's so many different varying lives to be lived among the states.
[22:48] Allen Thomas: And what may help Massachusetts may not necessarily help Georgia.
[22:51] Allen Thomas: And as we've seen, what may help California or what Californians want to do may not reflect what people in Wyoming and Colorado want to do.
[22:59] Allen Thomas: And it was just a little bit of confusion, I think, and again, a lack of civic knowledge from Americans parts to advocate for their federal government, for Congress to start doing things about COVID, as opposed to going to their states and really advocating for for policies and ideas at a state level and letting the states be this laboratory.
[23:22] Allen Thomas: You know, what Texas or Florida wants to do, did that work?
[23:27] Allen Thomas: Or is what Indiana or Iowa, did they have a good policy?
[23:31] Allen Thomas: And being able to try out these different ideas in 50 different states as opposed to, you know, one top-down edict that may or may not work, you know, it's that lack of civic knowledge and lack of acknowledging that the states do have that power and authority and the federal government doesn't.
[23:50] Kim Monson: Well, and the other thing is that people that have been elected have abdicated their responsibility to go to the voters and be responsible for their decisions.
[23:59] Kim Monson: They've pushed off these decisions, say, oh, that's those bureaucrats over there.
[24:04] Kim Monson: And I think in a way, it's kind of laziness on our part saying, oh, OK, wait a minute.
[24:10] Kim Monson: Who gave those bureaucrats the power?
[24:17] Allen Thomas: I mean, when you looked at Anthony Fauci at the very beginning, he he'd been working in this area for how many decades he had all the degrees.
[24:26] Allen Thomas: You know, when he talks, he uses the right jargon and language and people go, wow, that's a really educated man.
[24:32] Allen Thomas: And we as a country should should adopt all of his policies and ideas.
[24:37] Allen Thomas: Whereas, you know, again, we lost a lot of the state's rights and the state's sovereignty when we moved to people electing the senators, not the state legislatures.
[24:49] Allen Thomas: And so in that, the states lost a lot of their power and their credibility to say, no, back off, federal government.
[24:59] Allen Thomas: You can tell us, hey, you know, you can give us the experts' opinions and ideas.
[25:04] Allen Thomas: But at a state level, we want to decide what's best for our citizens.
[25:07] Allen Thomas: Because again, Wyoming isn't dealing with the same overcrowded issues that New York is or that Washington, D.
[25:13] Allen Thomas: So policies and ideas that may affect Virginia and the East Coast don't apply to people out in the West, out in Arizona and out here.
[25:23] Allen Thomas: We have a whole host of different issues and different things to think about.
[25:27] Allen Thomas: So we just need to restore that idea that the states need to have more power and sovereignty.
[25:32] Allen Thomas: And we need to be advocating for our state legislator, our representatives and senators and governor.
[25:39] Allen Thomas: Those are very important decisions to be made, because they actually have a lot more power over we, the people, and over our lives than most people would even know or admit to know.
[25:50] Kim Monson: And to that point, though, when we talk about each state is different, with making the federal government bigger and bigger and bigger, and then a big state like California having more representatives, then what they do is they make bad decisions in California and then look to the federal government to give them money.
[26:08] Kim Monson: Well, the federal government doesn't have money unless they take it from other people.
[26:16] Kim Monson: And I guess that's why one of the reasons your piece has done so well regarding states' rights is that if California wants to make bad decisions, then they need to be responsible for those bad decisions.
[26:26] Allen Thomas: That's completely the point of several of the federalist papers.
[26:32] Allen Thomas: And this idea that the federal government would be doling out money to counties, to states, to even municipalities, several of them would roll over in their graves thinking about the federal government having that much, not only power and resources, but to have all these people look to the federal government to help solve their issues is antithetical to the entire premise and idea of the Constitution.
[26:55] Kim Monson: And that's why it's so important that we have these conversations.
[26:57] Kim Monson: So I'm talking with Allen Thomas, and we're going to go to break.
[27:00] Kim Monson: When we come back, he's written his most recent essay is Do Not Cross the Line, which I think is going to be a super interesting conversation.
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[28:51] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, and I know that that is a subject that is near and dear to your heart.
[29:02] Kim Monson: Allen Thomas, it's great to have you in studio.
[29:04] Kim Monson: We were talking about your really great piece.
[29:06] Kim Monson: I recommend that people go check that out again, and that is the ultimate rivalry: states' rights versus the federal government.
[29:15] Kim Monson: But let's talk about this new one that you have, and that is Do Not Cross the Line.
[29:20] Kim Monson: What made you come up with this subject?
[29:23] Allen Thomas: Well, you know, Kim, I love superhero movies.
[29:26] Allen Thomas: And there's this new Batman movie out called The Batman.
[29:30] Allen Thomas: And I've always loved Batman just because he represents something, because he's always fighting this crime and corruption in Gotham, where the mayor's corrupt or the DA's corrupt, or there's corrupt cops, and he's this vigilante and he fights for justice and vengeance.
[29:48] Allen Thomas: And there was this line in this scene in the most recent movie, where they caught this corrupt cop who was responsible for killing Catwoman's best friends.
[29:58] Allen Thomas: And they uncover this scheme where there's this criminal mastermind who they find out is responsible for putting the mayor, the DA, and basically the whole police department is in his pocket and is running the city.
[30:13] Allen Thomas: And after they discover this, Catwoman wants to, she goes, let's go kill him.
[30:17] Allen Thomas: And she raises the gun to shoot her friend's killer.
[30:20] Allen Thomas: And Batman knocks the gun away and he says, once you cross that line, you're just like them.
[30:26] Allen Thomas: And it's that commitment to that principle of, you know, even though I'm technically a vigilante, I still have this set of principles.
[30:34] Allen Thomas: I still have this guiding way to live my life that even though it goes against what I want to do, even though it goes against what my feelings and the passion of the moment says, I'm still going to do the right thing.
[30:50] Allen Thomas: I'm not just going to go killing people, even though they've done terrible things and even though they likely, if you went through the rule of law and went through the court system, they would get the death penalty.
[30:59] Allen Thomas: I'm not going to become that because once I cross that line, once I justify that, it's so much easier to cross the line again and again and again.
[31:08] Allen Thomas: And you, you start moving the goalpost, you know, and we've seen that in our public policy so much, you know, once you, once you set the line here, you know, abortion, you know, we've talked about a lot.
[31:18] Allen Thomas: It used to be just rape and incest and it's a necessary evil.
[31:22] Allen Thomas: And then it became the line just slowly started moving farther and farther and farther.
[31:26] Allen Thomas: And now the left is completely for no holds barred abortion.
[31:30] Allen Thomas: And it's, it's easy once you cross that line and once you justify it once, it's so much easier to cross that line again and again.
[31:38] Allen Thomas: And, you know, I, you think back through, you know, your own life and where you maybe have done that.
[31:42] Allen Thomas: I mean, how many of us have, have told a simple white lie.
[31:45] Allen Thomas: And then before you know it, um, you know, there's a Chandler episode in, in friends where he tells a white lie to, cause he doesn't want to break up with his girlfriend at the time.
[31:55] Allen Thomas: And before you know it, he's traveling to the middle East and he has a ticket and he's like, I guess I'm going across the world just because he told a simple lie and he couldn't get out of it.
[32:06] Allen Thomas: He crossed that line, and then it became so much harder to go back, because you didn't just tell the truth.
[32:13] Allen Thomas: You didn't have that internal principle of I'm going to tell the truth, no matter how much it hurts me.
[32:18] Allen Thomas: And it's so hard, especially when Republicans do it, because once we cross that line, And it gives justification for progressives to do it.
[32:29] Allen Thomas: One of them was Governor DeSantis, the way that he said, go woke, go broke.
[32:35] Allen Thomas: And he weaponized the government against Disney.
[32:38] Allen Thomas: You know, another one was Representative Crenshaw.
[32:42] Allen Thomas: He just voted to send$ 40 billion to Ukraine.
[32:47] Allen Thomas: And also, you know, when the El Paso shooting happened and he was, he came out with a tweet saying he was basically for red flag laws, you know, they use that.
[33:00] Allen Thomas: And once we cross that line, once we agree that governments can do something, once we agree that government force is acceptable, it easily flips.
[33:08] Allen Thomas: Another good one, you know, that I think we could spend some time talking about is I just saw an article about how there's Republican women in Congress proposing a women's bill of rights.
[33:23] Allen Thomas: They're they're wanting to, and you can understand the justification behind it.
[33:28] Allen Thomas: They're wanting to say that that you know, men shouldn't be competing in men's sports.
[33:35] Allen Thomas: Since, uh, the progressives can't, even, can't even Define women, then now we need to have this women's bill of rights.
[33:40] Allen Thomas: And you see, now we've crossed the line because we've said that a special group of people deserve special rights and it's so much harder.
[33:49] Allen Thomas: Once you cross that line, how easy will it be for them to justify a transgender Bill of Rights?
[33:56] Kim Monson: That's so interesting that you say that, because one of the intros, I don't know which day it is, but I realized this, and this was on the gay rights or women rights, I said, if you start to give groups special rights, then you can't have equal rights.
[34:11] Kim Monson: So I was not aware of this Women's Bill of Rights.
[34:15] Kim Monson: And like you say, it's a bit off the rails having men compete in women's sports.
[34:21] Kim Monson: So I'm going to ask you a question.
[34:22] Kim Monson: I just saw, came across the headlines within the last few days that I think the pro women's soccer players are going to be paid the same amount as the men's.
[34:40] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking about that, and I was like, okay, but wait a minute.
[34:46] Kim Monson: You're letting men compete in women's sports, so are you now going to have a guy that can't make it on the men's side is going to play here over on the women's side, and then he's not as good as the other ones, but he's going to make the same pay.
[35:05] Kim Monson: I mean, if you can say it, it'll happen here.
[35:10] Allen Thomas: I mean, we've seen it in NCAA, how they're allowing a man to compete in women's swimming and just the opportunities he's taken away from from women who have worked incredibly hard work.
[35:23] Allen Thomas: You know, I you know, I've played sports in high school.
[35:27] Allen Thomas: It's a it's a time commitment for both the athlete and the parents.
[35:30] Allen Thomas: I mean, going to meets, going to to training and all of this and to just kind of have that stripped away.
[35:37] Allen Thomas: But again, it goes back to this central idea of where should this issue be talked about?
[35:43] Allen Thomas: And we're proposing a top-down approach, a federal-level approach on something that's virtuous.
[35:49] Allen Thomas: We're talking about virtues and morals and should this be right?
[35:53] Allen Thomas: And one of the interesting things that Alito discusses in the opinion about abortion is he brings up this very argument.
[36:02] Allen Thomas: He said the federal government shouldn't be in the virtue-making arena.
[36:07] Allen Thomas: That's something that states should be deciding.
[36:09] Allen Thomas: When these issues get to be about what's virtuous or what's moral, that's not something the federal government should be legislating.
[36:17] Allen Thomas: They should be legislating what is rights of the individual and are those being violated.
[36:23] Allen Thomas: And you can see that happening in the states anyway.
[36:26] Allen Thomas: You know, several states have already passed legislation saying if you're a boy, you can't compete in girls' sports.
[36:32] Allen Thomas: You know, if you're a boy in high school, you can't compete in women's sports.
[36:37] Allen Thomas: And we've also seen several states saying, yeah, that's absolutely okay.
[36:43] Allen Thomas: It should be, you know, freedom nationally, virtue locally.
[36:47] Allen Thomas: And that's where these issues should be decided.
[36:51] Allen Thomas: You know, if a state passes this and you say, you know what, I don't want my daughter competing against a little boy, then move.
[36:58] Allen Thomas: You know, you have that ability to say, you know what, you guys have gone off the rails.
[37:02] Allen Thomas: Or change the people that are representing you.
[37:04] Allen Thomas: Or change the people that are representing you.
[37:05] Allen Thomas: But you have this ability to say, you know, you have several options of you guys have gone off the rails and your moral radar is completely twisted and off.
[37:15] Allen Thomas: So I'm either going to get rid of you or I'm going to leave this state because you no longer reflect the morality I want in my state government.
[37:26] Allen Thomas: And that's where we kind of lose this conversation.
[37:27] Allen Thomas: That's where this Women's Bill of Rights is, again, we've lost what the idea, the proper role of the federal government should be.
[37:34] Kim Monson: Okay, Allen Thomas, you bring up this term virtuous and moral.
[37:39] Kim Monson: And, of course, the founders talked about that all the time, that you have to have a virtuous society.
[37:44] Kim Monson: And for many years, the left would look at conservatives and say they want to tell you how you have to live your life.
[37:52] Kim Monson: They're going to tell you what your morals are, virtue and all that.
[37:57] Kim Monson: Well, now through the whole COVID-19 thing, reaction disruption, we've seen that, oh, no, no, no.
[38:02] Kim Monson: The progressives want to tell everybody how to live their lives.
[38:07] Kim Monson: But the term virtuous, moral, what does that mean to you?
[38:14] Allen Thomas: Well, I wouldn't necessarily say a virtuous government.
[38:18] Allen Thomas: But virtuous citizens, you know, a virtue is, you know, the classical, you know, Plato, Aristotle, they saw virtues as excellences more so.
[38:28] Allen Thomas: They saw them as goals of how you should be.
[38:34] Allen Thomas: And just because I strive towards the virtue of anything doesn't mean I won't necessarily break it.
[38:45] Allen Thomas: And it's an ideal that we should be going towards.
[38:48] Allen Thomas: And the founding fathers didn't necessarily view virtue and morality as necessarily religious.
[38:58] Allen Thomas: If you are religious, you necessarily have a virtue code.
[39:03] Allen Thomas: You have a code of ethics because you're following something that believes in truth and the seeking of truth.
[39:10] Allen Thomas: But they did believe that you could be, that you didn't necessarily have to be religious and could still be virtuous.
[39:17] Allen Thomas: You know, if you had self-assertion, self-reliance, and self-respect of yourself, and you understood what the proper role of government, and you had this mutual civic trust, that you trusted your neighbor more than you trusted your government, that those were virtues that a citizenry needed for this republic to stand.
[39:38] Allen Thomas: You needed that self-assertion to be able to say, hey, you know, I'm not just going to sink into myself and not take a stance on an issue, even though it directly affects me.
[39:51] Allen Thomas: You know, you have to have this self-reliance because otherwise you're going to be relying on the government to provide for you.
[40:00] Allen Thomas: And our republic won't work if you have a citizenry that is reliant on government organizations, bureaus, to tell you how to live your life.
[40:07] Kim Monson: And if you're relying on the government, and let's say even for monetary things from the government, the government doesn't create anything.
[40:16] Kim Monson: So they have to take it from somebody else in order to give to somebody.
[40:20] Kim Monson: And so, in essence, I want to talk about this when we come back, is stealing, taking other people's stuff, and using government and trying to use a virtuous or compassionate argument to take other people's stuff.
[40:34] Kim Monson: I mean, the ultimate thing is socialism.
[40:40] Kim Monson: And we're talking about his most latest essay, which is Do Not Cross the Line.
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[44:11] Kim Monson: In studio with me is Allen Thomas, great author.
[44:15] Kim Monson: New piece that we're going to be rolling out, Do Not Cross the Line.
[44:20] Kim Monson: And in our conversations here, a couple of things.
[44:23] Kim Monson: You're talking about virtuous moral, that you don't necessarily have to be religious.
[44:31] Kim Monson: But Dennis Prager, I remember hearing him one time, said that of all of the Ten Commandments, he thinks that maybe the most important one is do not steal.
[44:41] Kim Monson: Because within that, you know, do not steal somebody else's life through murder.
[44:50] Kim Monson: but do not steal via public policy that takes from one and gives to another.
[44:55] Kim Monson: And so what's your thoughts about do not steal?
[44:57] Kim Monson: Because I think that could be the bedrock of a virtuous or moral society.
[45:04] Allen Thomas: I would agree, and it might boil down to the virtue of self-restraint, right?
[45:08] Allen Thomas: And restraining yourself from doing or saying things that you want to.
[45:13] Allen Thomas: And, you know, the founding fathers, another big idea that they always pushed was this idea of passion versus reason.
[45:22] Allen Thomas: This idea of giving into your emotions, giving into demagogues, whether they're political demagogues or religious demagogues, and instead taking a step back and using reason to reason through it.
[45:34] Allen Thomas: And one of the ways you can reason through it is through self-restraint, self-reliance, self-assertion.
[45:39] Allen Thomas: And really taking a step back and saying, you know what, is this the right thing to do just because it benefits me now, just because I get that expedient result now, doesn't necessarily make it a good thing in the future.
[45:52] Allen Thomas: You know, I have a one and a half year old and he does whatever he wants to do in the moment.
[45:58] Allen Thomas: He doesn't think, you know, one year down the line.
[46:02] Allen Thomas: He doesn't think like, oh, if this stove is hot and I touch it, that might hurt for a long, long time.
[46:10] Allen Thomas: And what makes us human is this ability to reason, to do things that, you know, right now, you know, a great example.
[46:19] Allen Thomas: You know, sometimes you take medicines that don't taste good, but even though they don't taste good, you still take them because you know that they're going to make you better.
[46:26] Allen Thomas: And it's that ability to say just because something is easy now or just because I'm going to get a result now, is that result going to be something that I want 10, 15 years down the line?
[46:37] Allen Thomas: And you need to have that self-restraint to say, no, I'm not going to do that now, even though I really want that donut.
[46:44] Allen Thomas: I would rather lose five pounds and be able to run around with my kid.
[46:48] Kim Monson: OK, I'm also thinking then from a political standpoint, we have so many politicians and bureaucrats.
[46:55] Kim Monson: and interested parties that are so focused on their agenda, and they can make it sound like it's virtuous or moral, because they quote-unquote care about people, but they don't look at the unintended consequences of what that will do.
[47:11] Kim Monson: And the way to make sure that you're keeping that unintended consequences in check is to go back to the Constitution.
[47:20] Allen Thomas: Well, it's also this idea of reason, right?
[47:23] Allen Thomas: Just because someone has good intent doesn't mean that it's going to be good legislation.
[47:28] Allen Thomas: Again, we're in the midst of a formula shortage, and they just passed this bill giving the FDA more money.
[47:35] Allen Thomas: As if throwing money towards the FDA to acquire formula is a good idea.
[47:43] Allen Thomas: He proposed this Formula Act, which actually said, hey, let's decrease the tariffs and the duties and allow people to import formula, allow people the freedom to choose to buy formula from outside this country, from Europe or other nations that they trust, and open up this ability for mothers to find formula for themselves.
[48:09] Allen Thomas: But you didn't sit down and actually reason and think, hey, what is the consequence of giving the FDA more money?
[48:18] Allen Thomas: Or does it just make you feel good because you think you're fixing the issue.
[48:22] Kim Monson: And it looks good politically that they're trying to solve a problem.
[48:26] Kim Monson: And there's this great Milton Friedman quote that he says that if you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert in five years, there'd be no sand.
[48:34] Allen Thomas: Yeah, I always love that quote because, again, you have to think about who's up there at the Capitol.
[48:41] Allen Thomas: And their interests are to get reelected right now.
[48:45] Allen Thomas: Which is supposed to be representing the people.
[48:47] Allen Thomas: Well, because we, the people, have given up a lot of that power.
[48:52] Allen Thomas: We've said, you know what, we want you to fix our problems.
[48:54] Allen Thomas: So as long as you bring back enough bacon and provide enough for this district, I guess you're doing the right thing.
[49:00] Allen Thomas: Another aspect of that is campaign finance laws and how we've completely twisted them so it favors the incumbents.
[49:10] Allen Thomas: You need another like four or five hours to go down that.
[49:13] Allen Thomas: But again, it's this idea that we the people do have the power.
[49:19] Allen Thomas: We just have to have that self-assertion to take it back.
[49:21] Allen Thomas: And we need to start holding these politicians, hold their feet to the fire and say, yeah, okay, you can tell me you had good intent.
[49:31] Allen Thomas: You're not up there to have good, well-intentioned bills.
[49:37] Allen Thomas: And we need to start doing that, especially even here locally.
[49:41] Allen Thomas: I mean, that's why these state house and state Senate seats are incredibly important because the state has a ton of power to actually influence a lot of our lives.
[49:51] Allen Thomas: And we need to be telling them, I don't care what your intent is up there.
[49:55] Allen Thomas: I care about what the legislation is doing.
[50:00] Allen Thomas: Where you know the the setbacks for oil and gas, for instance.
[50:03] Allen Thomas: They pass that and they're not, and now that we're sitting here at$ 4 gallon gas, they're not sitting here.
[50:09] Allen Thomas: We're not holding their feet to the fire saying: hey, you had a good intent.
[50:13] Allen Thomas: I see what your intent was, but look at how bad it's actually hurting us.
[50:17] Allen Thomas: We're not holding them accountable for what they're actually doing, and that's where we need to assert ourselves and we need to be going to town halls and we need to be electing people that don't just have good intent, that have good, actual legislation.
[50:31] Kim Monson: But what's happened now is this environmental agenda couches things under intent, clean air, clean water, and yet the oil and gas industry has been so creative.
[50:44] Kim Monson: Here in Colorado, it's very clean, and we realize that efficient, affordable, reliable, and abundant energy helps everyday people power their lives.
[50:53] Kim Monson: So they couched that whole setback thing under clean air, whatever.
[50:58] Kim Monson: In essence, it was all about power.
[51:00] Kim Monson: And not only the power that they took as politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties, but also controlling the power, the energy that powers our lives.
[51:15] Kim Monson: And people are waking up saying, wait a minute.
[51:18] Kim Monson: And it's our job now that they're waking up to let them know what happened in that.
[51:25] Allen Thomas: Well, I don't know enough about that to have an opinion, so I'm just going to let them do it.
[51:32] Allen Thomas: No, I'm going to take an interest in my government.
[51:34] Allen Thomas: I'm going to take an interest in what these people are doing that can have so much of an effect in my life.
[51:42] Allen Thomas: One of the, I believe one of the anti-federalists even said this when they were trying to pass the constitution.
[51:48] Allen Thomas: He said, no, if you don't try and figure out what's in the constitution before you have an opinion on it, you are essentially a traitor to your country.
[51:56] Allen Thomas: And we don't have that belief right now that you're necessarily a traitor just because you don't take an interest in the legislation going on at the state house, which is why what you do isn't so important when you have the bill of the day, because you're actually trying to tell people, hey, you need to take an interest in this because just because they have these 50 page long bills doesn't mean it's not going to affect your life.
[52:21] Allen Thomas: You need to speak out, you need to talk to your neighbors and especially your legislators and tell them, no, this is going to have a lot of unintended consequences.
[52:29] Allen Thomas: This is going to affect a lot of people for the good or for the bad.
[52:33] Allen Thomas: And you need to take that interest in your government again.
[52:36] Allen Thomas: And too many people just like to kind of put their heads in the sand.
[52:39] Allen Thomas: And that's not a good enough excuse anymore.
[52:43] Kim Monson: Steve, you look like you want to weigh in here.
[52:45] Producer Steve: You guys are, excuse me, you guys are flirting with what Victor Davis Hanson said last week, try to get through to people that this is not political anymore.
[52:55] Producer Steve: It is existential.
[52:57] Producer Steve: And it's always been that way.
[52:58] Producer Steve: But like Alan just said, we kind of gave this up, this power, or our own power, to have government work for us.
[53:08] Kim Monson: So we've got about a minute left here, Allen Thomas.
[53:11] Kim Monson: Always great to have you in studio.
[53:13] Kim Monson: And this piece that you've written.
[53:18] Kim Monson: So, I recommend that people check that out.
[53:20] Kim Monson: How would you like to button this up?
[53:21] Allen Thomas: It sometimes is easy to get a little fatalistic about these things.
[53:27] Allen Thomas: You look at how much power the federal government has or the state government has and say, as one person, I may not have that power.
[53:35] Allen Thomas: And one of the Federalist Papers, I forget which number, I think it's 10, Hamilton actually brings up all these powerful individuals and he says, look, look at the course of history.
[53:45] Allen Thomas: Just one person can have a very big impact in the course of human events.
[53:49] Allen Thomas: So don't forget that just because you're one person doesn't mean you can't have an impact.
[53:54] Allen Thomas: So reclaim some of that power within yourself and, and determine that, yeah, if you want to, you can have an impact in your state government, in your federal government, you need to not hide in your hide in your shell and you need to go out there And you need to influence people, persuade them, and take back the power that we the people have.
[54:17] Kim Monson: So thank you so much for being in studio, Allen Thomas.
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[55:33] Kim Monson: Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body.
[55:36] Kim Monson: You were made for this moment and I am convinced we are in the third founding of this great american republic and you were made for this time in history.
[55:44] Kim Monson: And I get to work with a lot of great people, and that is producer steve, zach, patty, keith, charlie, jen, echo, all the people here at crawford broadcasting and producer steve.
[55:55] Kim Monson: We're doing something special today.
[55:56] Kim Monson: Oh, tell us more, aha, so we are actually taking a little bit of time off and we've created these shows, uh, so that you can hear some of these important interviews that we've done.
[56:08] Kim Monson: And so today we'll be, uh, rebroadcasting the interview with dr victor davis hansen regarding the reset of the great reset, and then also with lauren fix, who is the car coach, about her interview, which again talks about the the reset.
[56:26] Kim Monson: I never get the whole content the first time through, so we thought it was a good idea to broadcast them again.
[56:33] Kim Monson: I am just thrilled to have on the line with me Dr.
[56:43] Kim Monson: He's a distinguished fellow of the Center for American Greatness.
[56:46] Kim Monson: He's a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution at Stanford, the author of The Second World War, how the first global conflict was fought and won.
[56:54] Kim Monson: Victor Davis Hanson, we're talking about your essay regarding the reset of the Great Reset.
[57:06] Kim Monson: I believe that this is probably the third founding of America.
[57:10] Kim Monson: Of course, the first was the Revolutionary War.
[57:15] Kim Monson: I feel this is our third American founding.
[57:18] Kim Monson: And I say to people all the time that you were made for this time in history.
[57:23] Kim Monson: But my concern is, is those that have the ideology of the Great Reset are doing so much damage so fast that I'm concerned how we're going to get this turned around.
[57:38] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Well, we have to be very practical.
[57:41] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: We're not going to get it turned around unless something that almost never happens in American history were to occur.
[57:47] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: That is, there would be such a huge backlash in the first midterm election that not only would they take, they being the Republicans, would take the House, but they would get 60 seats in the Senate.
[58:03] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: If that were to happen, then they could pass any law they wanted, and it would be veto proof.
[58:07] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And that's the only thing that will stop it.
[58:11] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And even then, it wouldn't stop all of it because Joe Biden would then resort to executive orders.
[58:16] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They can slow it down, though.
[58:18] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: If they take the House and the Senate, even without a supermajority in the Senate, they can slow down the progress of what we're watching.
[58:24] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: But I think people need to realize the damage was considerable when people who watched that campaign and were very worried what they heard.
[58:38] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: These are people, moderate voters, independent voters, the never Trump voters.
[58:42] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: There was more than enough information on that debate stage for a year of those Democratic primary candidates of what they wanted to do.
[58:52] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said that they wanted basically to open the border.
[58:54] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They wanted blanket amnesties.
[58:57] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said they want.
[58:57] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Joe Biden said to a questioner in Maine that he wanted to stop all fossil fuels.
[59:04] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said that they believed in critical race theory.
[59:08] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said it in the debates.
[59:10] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said that they wanted to cancel Keystone.
[59:14] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They wanted to cancel Anwar.
[59:16] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Beto O'Rourkesaid he wanted to go after people's guns, take them away, depending on the category of gun.
[59:21] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: So I don't see anything they have done right now that they didn't warn they were going to do.
[59:28] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And the reason that they got elected was two things.
[59:33] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It was COVID and the fear of the pandemic and the lockdown, and just the trauma of that whole crazy year.
[59:40] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And then second, the media told people that Donald Trump's tweets and his behavior and his crudity were such that he was a danger to the republic.
[59:51] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And enough people made the election close enough that we're now arguing over the actual ballot.
[60:01] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: but the ballot counting.
[60:02] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: But I think it was a big problem on the Trump campaign when these ballot laws were questioned, challenged in court, and they were always one way.
[60:14] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It wasn't that people said, well, maybe we need more voter IDs, or maybe we need more people watching at the polls when we increase the mail- inballoting by 60 million ballots.
[60:26] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It was always, let's be laxer, Let's give more time.
[60:30] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Let's have less certification of names or prior registration.
[60:34] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Or let's have one day registration or let's have ballot harvesting.
[60:37] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And that was not addressed to.
[60:40] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I don't know what happened on the Republican side because you expect it from the left.
[60:45] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And a lot of the polls showed very clearly early on that it was going to be a very close race.
[60:52] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And you would expect the Republicans would have been very vigilant to what would be predictable on the part of the left.
[60:58] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they didn't.
[60:59] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They let that go or they didn't publicize it or they were not prepared to audit and censor it.
[61:04] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: So they got completely surprised on Election Day when one hundred and two million people voted.
[61:09] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And especially when, you know, seven to ten million of those ballots would have been thrown out if they had the laws that just stayed on the books as they were in 2019 and 18.
[61:20] Kim Monson: Well, clearly that would have changed the election significantly with those number of votes.
[61:29] Kim Monson: I really think that the grassroots people, everyday Americans, are activating.
[61:36] Kim Monson: There are so many different groups where people are getting together and they're talking about these issues and taking action.
[61:43] Kim Monson: I was a delegate down to the state GOP assembly here in Colorado, and the number of people that were first- timedelegates was amazing.
[61:56] Kim Monson: And it was a very robust assembly as well, Dr.
[62:02] Kim Monson: Hansen, and a lot of different things happened there, but the grassroots really showed up to that particular assembly.
[62:08] Kim Monson: So the next question I want to ask, though, is now that people are paying attention, And there's always been this kind of bipartisan reach across the aisle, that looks good, that America comes to consensus on things.
[62:22] Kim Monson: But what has happened is many Republicans have reached so far across the aisle that they're now standing on the other side of the aisle.
[62:30] Kim Monson: And so we need to really know what these candidates stand for as we go to the ballot box, Dr.
[62:35] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Yeah, I think that's a really good point.
[62:39] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I think there's a large minority, not large, but a minority in the Republican Party that looks at what happened to the republic.
[62:48] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It's turned into a populist, middle- classparty.
[62:50] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It's attracting record numbers of Latinos, African- Americanmales.
[62:56] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Asians are coming back to the party.
[63:00] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It's stressing middle- classconcerns, trade, inflation, jobs, skepticism of overseas optional large land engagements that we saw 10 years ago in Afghanistan and Iraq.
[63:17] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And that is not popular with the Bush, McCain, Romney wing and the never- Trumpwing of the Republican Party.
[63:23] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And so that's something that is in my lifetime I've never quite seen before, because even though that's only 8 to 10 percent of the party, the Bill Kristols, the George Wills, the David Thumbs, the Bulwark, the Dispatch, the Jonah Goldberg, all of these people have traditionally operated with enormous influence in the media, on Fox News, op- eds.
[63:53] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And yet no president delivered more of their issues than Donald Trump did.
[64:01] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I mean, you talk about sanctity of life, Second Amendment, deregulation, energy development, personal freedom.
[64:10] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Everything they had told us was essential, he brought.
[64:15] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And yet that wing has not just opposed him, they're fanatically on the other side.
[64:21] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: In fact, many of them are more fanatically left- wingnow than Democrats themselves.
[64:26] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And a lot of independents, I think, were influenced by some of them, some of the magazines.
[64:32] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And I think now what's happening is people across the spectrum are saying, I'm not going to listen to those guys anymore.
[64:41] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I can't afford to live.
[64:43] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I can't afford rent.
[64:44] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: This is not political anymore.
[64:46] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: This is existential.
[64:47] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: If you can't find baby formula or you can't fill up your long- haultruck at$ 7 a gallon here in California for diesel fuel, then that's something that you can't continue to exist.
[64:59] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And so I think the Republicans now are poised to get record numbers of people, especially Mexican- Americanpeople here in California.
[65:08] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I'd say that 50 to 60 percent of them are going to vote non- democratic.
[65:12] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They're so angry.
[65:13] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And the storming of the Catholic churches in Los Angeles the other day, it's just another nail in the left- wingcoffin.
[65:20] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: So I think we're looking at a historic reset.
[65:24] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And I think the Democrats just didn't believe it, and now they believe it.
[65:30] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And it's going to be very dangerous because in the next four or five months, they are trapped.
[65:36] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They're sort of tied on railroad tracks by their own ideological rope, and they can't get out.
[65:41] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they see this locomotive called the midterm election coming right at them.
[65:46] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they're hysterical now.
[65:49] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they're capable of a lot of really strange and dangerous things.
[65:53] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: But one thing they're not capable of is, you know, saying, let's get a bipartisan group and build the wall.
[66:00] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Just build it.
[66:01] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Don't fight anymore.
[66:02] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They're not capable of saying, you know what, we're in real trouble now.
[66:06] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Let's open ANWR and finish Keystone.
[66:08] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Whatever your politics are, let's just do it.
[66:11] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: or they're going to say, you know what, we're all fighting over Roe versus Wade and abortion.
[66:18] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Let's just let each state legislature deal with it.
[66:20] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And people can vote with conscience and will abide.
[66:23] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: The red states will abide by the blue states, and the blue states will abide.
[66:26] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They're not capable of that.
[66:27] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they're going to get very angry when they see they've lost popular support.
[66:31] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they are now.
[66:33] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I mean, never in my lifetime did I ever think that the Supreme Court justices would have their homes homes
[66:40] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: stormed and people out in the streets screaming obscenities at them.
[66:44] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And the press secretary of the United States would try to contextualize it and say, well, people are angry.
[66:49] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And as long as it's peaceful, that's just unheard of.
[66:54] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And yet, so we're going to see things the next four months we've never seen before, in my opinion, in our lifetime, because the Democratic Party does not exist anymore.
[67:03] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It's been taken over by a radical group of people and they will not stop.
[67:10] Kim Monson: Well, and what do we everyday people do about this over the next, we've got a couple of minutes left, what should we be doing?
[67:19] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I think everybody should just take a deep breath and say, yes, I wanted to support this cause and I want to do this.
[67:28] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: But everybody needs to get out and vote.
[67:31] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I know a lot of people are busy and all that.
[67:33] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They need to get out and vote, and they need to get every member of their family and every friend to vote.
[67:37] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: and they need to vote as if this is the vote, the last vote they have to stop this.
[67:43] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And if they do that and they send a message, it won't help that they take the House by 10 seats.
[67:51] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They have to take the House by 50 seats, 60 seats.
[67:54] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It won't help to pick up two senators.
[67:56] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They've got to pick up seven or eight senators.
[67:59] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: So everybody's got to get mobilized and go out to vote in a way that they never have before, because their future really depends on it.
[68:05] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: To stop this madness.
[68:07] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Well, most definitely.
[68:12] Kim Monson: Hanson, how can people find all of your essays and just follow you and get all kinds of information about you?
[68:19] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It's just at VictorHanson.
[68:21] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: com, V-I-C-T-O-R-H-A-N-S-O-N.
[68:24] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: com.
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[70:12] Kim Monson: I am just thrilled to have on the line with me Dr.
[70:22] Kim Monson: He's a distinguished fellow of the Center for American Greatness.
[70:25] Kim Monson: He's a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution at Stanford, the author of The Second World War is How the First Global Conflict Was Fought and Won, And Dr.
[70:34] Kim Monson: Victor Davis Hanson, we're talking about your essay regarding the reset of the Great Reset.
[70:45] Kim Monson: I believe that this is probably the third founding of America.
[70:50] Kim Monson: Of course, the first was the Revolutionary War.
[70:55] Kim Monson: I feel this is our third American founding.
[70:57] Kim Monson: And I say to people all the time that you were made for this time in history.
[71:05] Kim Monson: But my concern is, is those that have the ideology of the Great Reset are doing so much damage so fast that I'm concerned how we're going to get this turned around.
[71:18] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Well, we have to be very practical.
[71:20] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: We're not going to get it turned around unless something that almost never happens in American history were to occur.
[71:27] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: That is, there would be such a huge backlash in the first midterm election that not only would they take, they being the Republicans, would take the House, but they would get 60 seats in the Senate.
[71:42] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: If that were to happen, then they could pass any law they wanted and it would be veto proof.
[71:47] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And that's the only thing that will stop it.
[71:50] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And even then it wouldn't stop all of it because Joe Biden would then resort to executive orders.
[71:55] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They can slow it down, though.
[71:59] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: If they take the House and the Senate, even without a supermajority in the Senate, they can slow down the progress of what we're watching.
[72:03] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: But I think people need to realize the damage was considerable when people who watched that campaign and were very worried what they heard.
[72:17] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: These are people, moderate voters, independent voters, the never Trump voters.
[72:22] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: There was more than enough information on that debate stage for a year of those Democratic primary candidates of what they wanted to do.
[72:31] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said that they wanted basically to open the border.
[72:34] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They wanted blanket amnesties.
[72:36] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said they want.
[72:37] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Joe Biden said to a questioner in Maine that he wanted to stop all fossil fuels.
[72:43] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said that they believed in critical race theory.
[72:48] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said it in the debates.
[72:49] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They said that they wanted to cancel Keystone.
[72:53] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They wanted to cancel Anwar.
[72:55] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Beto O'Rourkesaid he wanted to go after people's guns, take them away, depending on the category of gun.
[73:01] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: So I don't see anything they have done right now that they didn't warn they were going to do.
[73:08] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And the reason that they got elected was two things.
[73:11] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It was COVID and the fear of the pandemic and the lockdown, and just the trauma of that whole crazy year.
[73:19] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And then second, the media told people that Donald Trump's tweets and his behavior and his crudity were such that he was a danger to the republic.
[73:31] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And enough people made the election close enough that we're now arguing over the actual ballot.
[73:40] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: but the ballot counting.
[73:42] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: But I think it was a big problem on the Trump campaign when these ballot laws were questioned, challenged in court, and they were always one way.
[73:53] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It wasn't that people said, well, maybe we need more voter IDs, or maybe we need more people watching at the polls when we increase the mail- inballoting by 60 million ballots.
[74:06] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It was always, let's be laxer, Let's give more time.
[74:09] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Let's have less certification of names or prior registrations, or let's have one- dayregistration, or let's have ballot harvesting.
[74:16] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And that was not addressed to.
[74:19] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I don't know what happened on the Republican side, because you expect it from the left.
[74:24] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And a lot of the polls showed very clearly early on that it was going to be a very close race.
[74:31] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And you would expect the Republicans would have been very vigilant to what would be predictable on the part of the left.
[74:37] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they didn't.
[74:38] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They let that go or they didn't publicize it or they were not prepared to audit and censor it.
[74:43] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: So they got completely surprised on Election Day when one hundred and two million people voted.
[74:48] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And especially when, you know, seven to ten million of those ballots would have been thrown out if they had the laws that just stayed on the books as they were in 2019 and 18.
[75:00] Kim Monson: Well, clearly that would have changed the election significantly with those number of votes.
[75:08] Kim Monson: I really think that the grassroots people, everyday Americans, are activating.
[75:15] Kim Monson: There are so many different groups where people are getting together and they're talking about these issues and taking action.
[75:22] Kim Monson: I was a delegate down to the state GOP assembly here in Colorado.
[75:29] Kim Monson: And the number of people that were first- timedelegates was amazing.
[75:37] Kim Monson: And it was a very robust assembly as well, Dr.
[75:42] Kim Monson: And a lot of different things happened there.
[75:44] Kim Monson: But the grassroots really showed up to that particular assembly.
[75:48] Kim Monson: So the next question I want to ask, though, is now that people are paying attention, And there's always been this kind of bipartisan reach across the aisle, that looks good, that, you know, America comes to consensus on things.
[76:01] Kim Monson: But what has happened is many Republicans have reached so far across the aisle that they're now standing on the other side of the aisle.
[76:09] Kim Monson: And so we need to really know what these candidates stand for as we go to the ballot box, Dr.
[76:14] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I think that's a really good point.
[76:17] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I think there's a large minority, not large, but a minority in the Republican Party that looks at what happened to the republic.
[76:27] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It's turned into a populist, middle- classparty.
[76:30] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It's attracting record numbers of Latinos, African- Americanmales.
[76:35] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Asians are coming back to the party.
[76:39] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It's stressing middle class concerns, trade, inflation, jobs, skepticism of, you know, overseas optional large land engagements that we saw 10 years ago in Afghanistan, Iraq.
[76:55] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And that is not popular with the Bush, McCain, Romney wing and the never Trump wing of the Republican Party.
[77:03] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And so that's something that is in my lifetime I've never quite seen before, because even though that's only 8 to 10 percent of the party, the Bill Kristols, the George Wills, the David Thumbs, the Bulwark, the Dispatch, the John Goldberg, all of these people have traditionally operated with enormous influence in the media, on Fox News, op- eds.
[77:33] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And yet no president delivered more of their issues than Donald Trump did.
[77:41] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I mean, you talk about sanctity of life, Second Amendment, deregulation, energy development, personal freedom.
[77:50] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Everything they had told us was essential, he brought.
[77:53] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And yet that wing has not just opposed him, they're fanatically on the other side.
[78:01] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: In fact, many of them are more fanatically left- wingnow than Democrats themselves.
[78:05] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And a lot of independents, I think, were influenced by some of them, some of the magazines.
[78:12] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And I think now what's happening is people across the spectrum are saying, I'm not going to listen to those guys anymore.
[78:21] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I can't afford to live.
[78:22] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I can't afford rent.
[78:24] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: This is not political anymore.
[78:26] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: This is existential.
[78:27] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: If you can't find baby formula or you can't fill up your long- haultruck at$ 7 a gallon here in California for diesel fuel, then that's something that you can't continue to exist.
[78:38] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And so I think the Republicans now are poised to get record numbers of people, especially Mexican- Americanpeople here in California.
[78:47] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I'd say that 50 to 60 percent of them are going to vote non- democratic.
[78:51] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They're so angry.
[78:53] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And the storming of the Catholic churches in Los Angeles the other day, it's just another nail in the left- wingcoffin.
[79:00] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: So I think we're looking at a historic reset.
[79:04] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And I think the Democrats just didn't believe it, and now they believe it.
[79:09] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And it's going to be very dangerous because in the next four or five months, they are trapped.
[79:15] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They're sort of tied on railroad tracks by their own ideological rope, and they can't get out.
[79:20] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they see this locomotive called the midterm election coming right at them.
[79:26] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they're hysterical now.
[79:28] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they're capable of a lot of really strange and dangerous things.
[79:32] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: But one thing they're not capable of is, you know, saying, let's get a bipartisan group and build the wall.
[79:39] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Just build it.
[79:40] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Don't fight anymore.
[79:43] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They're not capable of saying, you know what, we're in real trouble now.
[79:46] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Let's open ANWR and finish Keystone, whatever your politics are.
[79:49] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Let's just do it.
[79:50] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Or they're going to say, you know what, we're all fighting over Roe versus Wade and abortion.
[79:57] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Let's just let each state legislature deal with it.
[80:00] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And people can vote with conscience and will abide.
[80:02] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: The red states will abide by the blue states and the blue states will abide.
[80:05] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They're not capable of that.
[80:07] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they're going to get very angry when they see they've lost popular support.
[80:11] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they are now.
[80:12] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I mean, never in my lifetime did I ever think that the Supreme Court justices would have their homes stormed and people out in the streets screaming obscenities at them.
[80:22] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And the press secretary of the United States would try to contextualize it and say, well, people are angry.
[80:28] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And as long as it's peaceful, that's just unheard of.
[80:33] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And yet, so we're going to see things the next four months we've never seen before, in my opinion, in our lifetime.
[80:38] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: Because the Democratic Party does not exist anymore.
[80:42] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It's been taken over by a radical group of people, and they will not stop.
[80:50] Kim Monson: Well, and what do we everyday people do about this over the next, we've got a couple of minutes left, what should we be doing?
[80:57] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I think everybody should just take a deep breath and say, yes, I wanted to support this cause, and I want to do this.
[81:07] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: But everybody needs to get out and vote.
[81:10] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: I know a lot of people are busy and all that.
[81:13] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They need to get out and vote, and they need to get every member of their family and every friend to vote.
[81:17] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And they need to vote as if this is the vote, the last vote they have to stop this.
[81:22] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: And if they do that and they send a message, it won't help that they take the House by 10 seats.
[81:30] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They have to take the House by 50 seats, 16 seats.
[81:33] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It won't help to pick up two senators.
[81:35] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: They've got to pick up seven or eight senators.
[81:37] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: So everybody's got to get mobilized and go out to vote in a way that they never have before, because their future really depends on to stop this madness.
[81:49] Kim Monson: Hansen, how can people find all of your essays and to get you know?
[81:54] Kim Monson: Just follow you and get all kinds of information about you.
[81:57] Dr. Victor Davis Hanson: It just at victorhansen.
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[82:03] Kim Monson: Well, I so appreciate you joining us.
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[84:00] Kim Monson: And thank you to all of you who support us.
[84:02] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[84:10] Kim Monson: You shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[84:12] Kim Monson: I am so excited to have Lauren Fix on.
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[84:23] Kim Monson: She's a trusted automotive expert, and she provides an insider's perspective on a wide range of automotive topics, energy, and safety issues for both the auto industry and consumers.
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[84:50] Kim Monson: But what we want to talk about is our energy prices.
[84:54] Kim Monson: The price of diesel is up 30%, if you can believe that, to$ 5.
[85:03] Kim Monson: And this really is impacting each and every one of us.
[85:06] Kim Monson: First of all, as we go to the gas station to fill up, the money that you're paying for your gas, you used to be able to keep part of that and maybe do something fun with your family or go out to eat or whatever.
[85:21] Kim Monson: Now you're putting it into the gas pump just because you need to get from point A to point B in your life.
[85:27] Kim Monson: But the other thing that I think that we don't really realize is just this extreme increase in diesel and what that will do to us as well.
[85:39] Kim Monson: Because our big trucks that deliver our goods from where it's produced to the grocery store or the other stores that you buy from, it's going to increase the prices just to get that from point A to point B.
[85:56] Kim Monson: But then you also take a look at diesel, and that is what we use in our tractors.
[86:01] Kim Monson: And it's planting season right now here in America.
[86:05] Kim Monson: And what is going on with our farmers in having to, you know, their costs are going up not only for diesel, but also for fertilizer.
[86:15] Kim Monson: And it's going to really affect the planting season as well.
[86:19] Kim Monson: So it's really something of great concern.
[86:21] Kim Monson: I was talking to a farmer the other day, and I hadn't even thought about this.
[86:26] Kim Monson: But supposedly there is this push for electric tractors, if you can believe it.
[86:31] Kim Monson: And the idea that you would actually have to take your tractor from the field and then go back and drive someplace and plug it in and charge it.
[86:42] Kim Monson: Many times during planting and harvest seasons, those machines are going 24 hours a day, and there's no way that that could be done from electricity.
[86:52] Kim Monson: I'd given you this great intro, so welcome to the show.
[86:56] Lauren Fix: Sometimes, you know, technology doesn't work as planned.
[86:59] Lauren Fix: Hence the reason I keep saying, do you really want a self-driving car?
[87:05] Kim Monson: You know, it's so interesting that you would mention that because this push for these self-driving cars has been going on for quite some time.
[87:12] Kim Monson: And I was on city council from 2012 to 2016.
[87:16] Kim Monson: And so there was this big luncheon.
[87:20] Kim Monson: Many electeds, many bureaucrats were all there.
[87:23] Kim Monson: And I think it was the Department of Transportation under Obama was the keynote, and he was talking about electric cars.
[87:31] Kim Monson: And so I stood up, and for questions I said, I just have to tell you, I'm a little concerned about going down the road at 65 miles an hour, having a computer drive, when many times my computer at home crashes.
[87:50] Lauren Fix: They would hate me being there, boy.
[88:00] Lauren Fix: Have you ever had an automatic software update while you're driving?
[88:03] Lauren Fix: It pulls over to the side of the road and you're stuck.
[88:06] Lauren Fix: I've got to take someone to the hospital, something serious, a flight, whatever it is.
[88:17] Lauren Fix: I put this in the most accurate way.
[88:21] Lauren Fix: We used to, you and I, we were younger.
[88:25] Lauren Fix: And then you go, yeah, I can make pasta or whatever.
[88:33] Lauren Fix: I can, like, heat up a cup of coffee in two minutes, right?
[88:36] Lauren Fix: And now the kids stand in front of the microwave.
[88:39] Lauren Fix: My kids are 28 and 30, and they're like, this isn't going fast enough.
[88:44] Lauren Fix: And now you've got to remember, they were brought up in the Instagram, Twitter.
[88:49] Lauren Fix: I've got 160 characters to say everything I need.
[88:53] Lauren Fix: I've got just a caption of a photo that I get a split second of your attention.
[88:58] Lauren Fix: So when you live in this instant world of instant gratification, you tend to be impatient.
[89:03] Lauren Fix: But they want you to know that's the reality.
[89:07] Lauren Fix: But they want you to sit at an electric charging station for an hour to get an 80%charge, or hours, eight hours, to plug in your electric car, or automatic software updates for self- drivingcars.
[89:19] Lauren Fix: In other words, they want to disconnect you from reality as much as humanly possible.
[89:22] Kim Monson: Well, and when I was doing the promo for this, I said, this is not sustainable.
[89:28] Kim Monson: And it's impossible what they're saying they want to do.
[89:32] Kim Monson: But ultimately, I think it's to take away the freedom of mobility of everyday middle class Americans.
[89:40] Lauren Fix: And then my favorite yesterday, and I haven't had to vent on this yet, so you're the first one to hear it.
[89:46] Lauren Fix: how moronic and stupid to stop oil and gas leases when gas prices are a record high now, and so is diesel.
[89:52] Lauren Fix: And people go, well, it doesn't affect me.
[89:57] Lauren Fix: Those Amazon deliveries, your food delivery, whatever you want delivered, even the Uber ride you have, FedEx, UPS, U.
[90:05] Lauren Fix: Mail,everyone's going to jack up their rates because everything costs more.
[90:08] Lauren Fix: And that means literally everything you do every day is going to cost more.
[90:13] Lauren Fix: And if you go, oh, well, I'll just sit at home and make my own food and use my Wi- Fi.
[90:18] Lauren Fix: Well,that's going to be more expensive, too, because the repair guy is going to cost more, and they're going to pass that down to you because someone's got to pay for this.
[90:25] Lauren Fix: So the truth about inflation, we are way over 8%.
[90:29] Lauren Fix: They just pulled out my favorite subject, automotive, from the economics, and they figure out how much inflation has gone up.
[90:38] Lauren Fix: They took out food and cars, like the two most expensive things.
[90:40] Lauren Fix: But this is the game that the government plays.
[90:44] Lauren Fix: And, you know, most of the, I'll just say most of the people that are in office are absolutely corrupt.
[90:50] Kim Monson: Really, Lauren, you're willing to go and say that.
[90:55] Kim Monson: I mean, I think I know that, but you're saying it.
[90:58] Lauren Fix: I'm infuriated with the cost of everything.
[91:01] Lauren Fix: I go to the grocery store, you get something for dinner, and it's$ 300.
[91:10] Lauren Fix: So why would our officials that we elect not try to help all of us?
[91:19] Lauren Fix: This is supposed to be a job to help the community.
[91:23] Kim Monson: Well, and how many times have you gone to the grocery store and you've seen, you know, maybe a little jelly or some new little product or a designer cracker, if you will, And it's somebody that, granola, somebody that's come up with this idea and they say, I want to make something better.
[91:42] Kim Monson: I want to make something different.
[91:44] Kim Monson: And if the consumer likes it, then they buy it.
[91:47] Kim Monson: But what's going to happen here is all these little great little companies, like there is a cracker that I love every time I go to Safeway.
[91:56] Kim Monson: And it hasn't been there the last couple of times that I've been there.
[92:00] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking, what's going on with these little businesses?
[92:08] Lauren Fix: You know I I'm gluten free because I have an issue with gluten and dairy, like a lot of people do it, which always makes you wonder how come 20 years ago this didn't exist, but either way I go to the store to get granola, and that would be one of the things you said that triggered, and the shelf is literally empty.
[92:24] Lauren Fix: I'm like really- and it's made by the local grocery store- that that I go to.
[92:30] Lauren Fix: It's not like they buy it out of China.
[92:33] Lauren Fix: But the fact is that there's gaps on the store shelves, and you see them spreading things out.
[92:39] Lauren Fix: And the other thing I'm noticing, which is really infuriating me because I eat organic, I pick up a very expensive piece of meat, no matter what it is, chicken or sausage or whatever.
[92:47] Lauren Fix: And on the back, I always look to see where it's made.
[92:49] Lauren Fix: I mean, you can greatly have seed made in Uruguay.
[92:55] Lauren Fix: Pick up the meat next time you go to the grocery store, and just like anything else, and look to see where it's made.
[93:01] Lauren Fix: And that's true with car parts or anything.
[93:05] Lauren Fix: Vietnam, all these countries, I'm like, what?
[93:10] Lauren Fix: We have cows like you do in Colorado, right?
[93:18] Lauren Fix: Let's say we're supporting people in another country.
[93:21] Lauren Fix: And again, this is partly because of the way the government makes things work.
[93:27] Kim Monson: And Lauren, you may not realize this.
[93:30] Kim Monson: Out here in Colorado, our rural, our farming and ranching industry, I think, is the second largest industry in the state.
[93:37] Kim Monson: And out here in Colorado, first of all, I think our largest, I may have them mixed up, but they're big.
[93:44] Kim Monson: I'll just say some of our biggest industries out here is oil and gas.
[93:48] Kim Monson: And so this governor and this legislature, the radical activist Democrats that have taken over the party out here, the Democrat Party, have had a war on oil and gas.
[93:58] Kim Monson: And now in the crosshair is rural Colorado, our farming and ranching, our beef industry.
[94:05] Kim Monson: It's beyond belief what's happening out here, Lauren Fix.
[94:11] Lauren Fix: And one of the things that I have started to do is I stopped buying meat from my local grocery store.
[94:16] Lauren Fix: And I go online and I find there's tons of ranchers that sell direct and buy it direct.
[94:21] Lauren Fix: Go to the farm, call the farm, buy it from them direct.
[94:24] Lauren Fix: You're actually helping people in your state or in your area, whether you live in Iowa, Colorado, wherever it is.
[94:31] Lauren Fix: I've been buying local fruits, vegetables and meat.
[94:34] Lauren Fix: You know, I'll go to the farmer's market this time of year and get their stuff.
[94:37] Lauren Fix: Because honestly, I don't want to give money to the grocery stores because they certainly don't care about us.
[94:44] Kim Monson: Well, let's mention, I want to go back to what you said here.
[94:48] Kim Monson: And Patty had pulled this, because you were going to be on the show.
[94:52] Kim Monson: And it says that the Biden administration cancels massive oil and gas lease sale amid record high gas prices.
[94:58] Kim Monson: And first of all, I think it was all just for show anyway that he was going to open up these leases.
[95:04] Kim Monson: because he would put so many rules and regulations on that exploration that ultimately it would be very difficult to, I think most oil and gas companies wouldn't go for it.
[95:15] Kim Monson: But the fact that he would do this with these record high prices is remarkable to me, Lauren.
[95:23] Lauren Fix: I think remarkable is a nice way to put it.
[95:25] Lauren Fix: Imean, every single person is impacted.
[95:28] Lauren Fix: I don't care how you vote, how much you make, whatever it is.
[95:34] Lauren Fix: we're all Americans, we're all from the USA.
[95:35] Lauren Fix: You go to the pump and you're impacted immediately.
[95:39] Lauren Fix: And it's$ 100 to fill up the average car now.
[95:44] Lauren Fix: So now where does that money come from?
[95:46] Lauren Fix: Well, we're all not making more money.
[95:47] Lauren Fix: So that comes from other things, maybe a vacation, maybe it's close for your kids, maybe it's a million things it could be, right?
[95:55] Lauren Fix: Or even worse, it could be medications that you need, which are obviously a top priority.
[95:58] Lauren Fix: And everything's getting more expensive.
[96:01] Lauren Fix: And you notice that then you go to the grocery store and it's like, oh my gosh, everything costs more.
[96:05] Lauren Fix: Whether you send your kids to college, even if it's book school, they're still expensive that are on you.
[96:10] Lauren Fix: And it starts getting very expensive very quickly.
[96:13] Lauren Fix: I mean, even the guy that comes to cut my lawn now has a surcharge for gasoline.
[96:20] Lauren Fix: So when you think about the landscape, we're having to charge$ 50 extra in order to cover their costs for their vehicle.
[96:27] Lauren Fix: You're paying for it one way or the other.
[96:29] Lauren Fix: So all I can say, Bottom line is elections matter.
[96:31] Lauren Fix: You have to get out and vote for whoever you like.
[96:36] Lauren Fix: Whatever you like is fine, but you've got to vote.
[96:38] Lauren Fix: And remember that next time the next person, whomever it is, gets into office at all levels from local to federal, that this impacts not just you at the gas pump.
[96:47] Lauren Fix: This impacts you when you go to buy cars.
[96:49] Lauren Fix: This impacts you with food, literally everything we do.
[96:52] Lauren Fix: And I don't think we get upset until it impacts us at home.
[96:57] Kim Monson: Well, and people have to understand what's caused this.
[97:01] Kim Monson: When we come back, we're talking with Lauren Fix.
[97:04] Kim Monson: And I find that Biden's narrative on who's to blame is most interesting.
[97:10] Kim Monson: I want to hear what you have to say about that, Lauren Fix.
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[99:35] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, and on the line with me is Lauren Fix.
[99:43] Kim Monson: She is the car coach, and you can find her at carcoachreports.
[99:49] Kim Monson: AndLauren, before we get into talking about what's causing all of this increase in prices, producer Steve had a comment he wanted to make.
[100:01] Producer Steve: Well, you guys just didn't touch on it yet, but in the story about the cancellation of the oil and gas leases, there was this comment made, I'm not sure who made it, but due to lack of industry interest in leasing in the area, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, who wants to talk about why the industry has a lack of interest?
[100:20] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Lauren?
[100:23] Lauren Fix: Okay, there isn't a lack of interest.
[100:25] Lauren Fix: Just like you get a permit before you drive, you learn to drive, and then you get your license, the kind of same mindset goes with the oil and gas.
[100:35] Lauren Fix: Permit means I can go and look to see if there's oil and gas.
[100:38] Lauren Fix: Obviously, if there isn't any, we wouldn't want to get a license to drill, right?
[100:42] Lauren Fix: Because if there's nothing there, there's nothing there.
[100:44] Lauren Fix: So what the oil and gas people do, and I don't think people understand this, is they go and they look first, they say yes or they say no.
[100:52] Lauren Fix: So if they know for a fact that we've checked here before, so this is not a good deal, then they can cancel their own permit.
[100:59] Lauren Fix: Then they find another plot of land.
[101:03] Lauren Fix: Then the oil and gas companies go to the banks.
[101:06] Lauren Fix: And the banks then fund hiring people, putting in drilling equipment.
[101:10] Lauren Fix: And this doesn't happen overnight.
[101:11] Lauren Fix: But if you take away those opportunities from oil and gas, they're just going to say, well, we're going to say what we are.
[101:17] Lauren Fix: But what no one's talking about is there are 11 new regulations and fees on all oil and gas drilling.
[101:23] Lauren Fix: So why they go, oh, we've opened all this up for everyone.
[101:30] Lauren Fix: The truth of it is, yeah, you also added 11 new fines and fees and regulations, which make it almost literally impossible for us to drill.
[101:37] Lauren Fix: So gas prices are going to go a lot higher.
[101:40] Lauren Fix: And remember, when Obama was in office, his ultimate goal was$ 8 a gallon.
[101:47] Lauren Fix: I was in California last week, and not like up in the hills in the middle of nowhere.
[101:52] Lauren Fix: I was in Palm Springs to review cars.
[101:56] Lauren Fix: And I took pictures, and I have them on my phone.
[102:02] Lauren Fix: And$ 8 is coming because it's not that far off.
[102:05] Kim Monson: But in California, a lot of that$ 7 is taxes as well, right?
[102:13] Lauren Fix: They decided that they wouldn't raise gas taxes and leave them where they are.
[102:19] Lauren Fix: And right now, the last I looked, it was, in fact, because I have a diesel SUV, and so is my son.
[102:24] Lauren Fix: We keep taking pictures of gas stations, and I try using GasBuddy, but by the time you get there, they've already jacked up the price again.
[102:30] Lauren Fix: So we're well over$ 5 a gallon for diesel, and we're just behind that by a few pennies, like high fours and into the fives, you know, where you go for regular gas.
[102:41] Lauren Fix: Now, I was just in West Virginia last weekend for a car show, and I saw gas.
[102:50] Lauren Fix: So it's good to know that it's all over the place.
[102:53] Lauren Fix: But this is the kind of thing that you need to know about.
[102:55] Lauren Fix: Because what's happening is each state can regulate their gas taxes, but there's a federal gas tax.
[103:00] Lauren Fix: And they're not going to relieve it for anybody.
[103:02] Lauren Fix: Because the states say that they need the money for roads and bridges.
[103:05] Lauren Fix: Well, have you driven on the roads lately?
[103:07] Lauren Fix: There's potholes everywhere, and they're not fixing anything.
[103:11] Lauren Fix: Well, I did a little research to find out a lot of this money goes into the general fund.
[103:15] Lauren Fix: So they tell you it's for roads and bridges, Just like they tell you the lottery money is supposed to go for education, where the heck is it going?
[103:24] Lauren Fix: They've redirected it through whatever rules and regulations they plan to go into the general funds.
[103:28] Lauren Fix: In other words, they can get their private planes and their fun little trips and their little visitations wherever they go or whatever, but it isn't going to where it's supposed to be.
[103:38] Lauren Fix: Education, roads, and bridges would be a good thing to start with.
[103:41] Kim Monson: Well, out here in Colorado, Lauren, the legislature put in a new fee on taxes or on gas.
[103:49] Kim Monson: But now that we're coming into elections, they're going to put that off till after.
[103:56] Lauren Fix: I think that's hysterical because it's like we're going to tax the taxes.
[103:59] Lauren Fix: That's the other thing I've noticed: when they give you a total and they add in all these additional fees and then they tax those additional fees.
[104:07] Kim Monson: I have not noticed that one, but I will be on the lookout.
[104:11] Kim Monson: We've got about four minutes left.
[104:13] Kim Monson: And Bidenflation, Biden wants to blame Putin, wants to blame the oil and gas industry, for example, what we were just talking about.
[104:22] Kim Monson: I realize from what you were saying, what Steve was saying, is Biden, they wanted to appear like they were going to offer oil and gas drilling.
[104:31] Kim Monson: And then because of what you just described, all these regulations, there's not been interest.
[104:36] Kim Monson: So this headline is, I think what they're trying to do is, in a way, blame the oil and gas industry because they weren't interested in drilling.
[104:44] Kim Monson: And that's why the prices have gone up.
[104:46] Kim Monson: But it's clearly because of Biden's policies, the Democrat policies.
[104:50] Kim Monson: But he wants to blame Putin, everybody else.
[104:52] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Lauren Fix?
[104:54] Lauren Fix: OK, well, I'll tell you the truth.
[104:55] Lauren Fix: I don't think that Russia has anything to do with it.
[104:57] Lauren Fix: We shouldn't even be buying oil and gas from Russia.
[105:00] Lauren Fix: Because before, yeah, the previous administration, when Trump was under control, he was selling natural gas and all kinds of supplies to Europe.
[105:10] Lauren Fix: And then Europe says, oh, no, we're going to get it from Russia.
[105:15] Lauren Fix: He fair warned them, don't buy from Russia.
[105:18] Lauren Fix: And they're really going to screw you guys over.
[105:21] Lauren Fix: And sure enough, that's what happened.
[105:22] Lauren Fix: So instead of us being an exporter and being energy independent, which lowered everybody's electricity prices, gasoline, the cost of literally everything, we've now literally flipped 180 degrees to we are importing oil and gas from our enemies, not just Russia, from the Middle East, from Venezuela.
[105:44] Lauren Fix: They didn't say how much, but there's going to be a premium.
[105:48] Lauren Fix: And then we're begging other countries, including OPEC, oh, please drill more.
[105:57] Lauren Fix: I have a minor in economics, but you don't even need to have a degree in economics to see what's going on.
[106:04] Lauren Fix: What they're doing is, I don't know what the ultimate goal is, but it's destruction of the U.
[106:11] Lauren Fix: And it's really upsetting to me that no one's saying anything about this.
[106:18] Lauren Fix: But consumers need to stand up and you need to start writing to the people that you elect and say, obviously, you don't want to stay there because this is how you lose your job.
[106:27] Lauren Fix: Unless, of course, there's other factors involved.
[106:29] Lauren Fix: But I'm not going to even go there.
[106:38] Lauren Fix: But what really upsets me the most is for the average consumer, this is hurting them.
[106:42] Lauren Fix: And they don't seem to care because everybody can't go to your boss and go, hey, listen, I need like a$ 20,000 raise.
[106:50] Lauren Fix: You can't even ask for a dollar an hour raise.
[106:54] Kim Monson: What kind of car are you, you know?
[106:56] Kim Monson: So, hey, we only have a minute left, about a minute.
[106:59] Kim Monson: And I hate to do this, but yet I want to get your reaction on this.
[107:03] Kim Monson: Because you're on the show, I do these quotes.
[107:05] Kim Monson: And so I chose Henry Ford because cars.
[107:10] Kim Monson: He said, if I'd listened to customers, I'd have given them a faster horse.
[107:13] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Lauren Fix?
[107:16] Lauren Fix: Well, you know, that's an interesting statement.
[107:18] Lauren Fix: In today's world, I'm seeing two things, and this is what reflects on that.
[107:22] Lauren Fix: Either electric cars, which everybody thinks they want, but the government's forcing them to buy, or like Ford, like Chrysler, like GM, they're making big horsepower cars that people are buying, and they can't make them fast enough, like a Shelby Mustang, like a Hellcat, like a Corvette.
[107:40] Lauren Fix: And the reason they are is people want their freedom.
[107:44] Lauren Fix: So remember, don't give up on your freedom and don't give up on your faster horse.
[107:48] Kim Monson: Oh, my gosh, Lauren Fix, the conversations are so great when you're on the show.
[107:55] Kim Monson: How do you want to button this up?
[107:56] Lauren Fix: Well, I think the best thing is I've got a really interesting story that's posting in the next few minutes up on my YouTube channel, Car Coach Reports.
[108:06] Lauren Fix: It's about how an oil change customer got sued.
[108:08] Lauren Fix: He wasn't even there, and then someone changed the oil in his car, and the mechanic got killed.
[108:14] Lauren Fix: And so the other mechanic, the family of that mechanic, is suing the owner of the car, and he wasn't even there.
[108:20] Lauren Fix: So I'm going to talk to you about vicarious liability and what you need to know, because I didn't even know about this.
[108:26] Lauren Fix: So I have a lawyer who actually works for me, and he also has a lawyer on the side.
[108:30] Lauren Fix: So he explains what you really need to know.
[108:33] Lauren Fix: You're going to be blown away next time you hand your keys to a valet, your buddies.
[108:37] Lauren Fix: He says, no, I just need to borrow your car for a few minutes or you can get your car serviced.
[108:42] Kim Monson: Okay, Lauren Fix, you can find her at CarCoachReports.
[108:48] Kim Monson: And Henry Ford's our quote for the end of the show.
[108:50] Kim Monson: He said, obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal.
[108:54] Kim Monson: So, my friends, today be grateful.
[109:02] Kim Monson: And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.