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[02:19] Kim Monson: Patty Kurgan has been doing a series of op-eds on this LEAP initiative.
[02:26] Kim Monson: It's the Learning, Enrichment, and Academic Program Plan.
[02:31] Kim Monson: And as we are looking at this and really delving into the details, it's really not a good thing.
[02:40] Kim Monson: And one of the number one reasons is because it sets up an unelected, unaccountable board that will be governing this.
[02:48] Kim Monson: and that we'll be making all the choices on the vendors that parents can choose from.
[02:54] Kim Monson: And it's like, what can go wrong with that?
[02:56] Kim Monson: So we're going to talk with Patty about that.
[02:57] Kim Monson: But she has written her third in this series of op-eds, connecting more and more of the dots.
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[04:39] Kim Monson: So Julie will be our guest in segments three and four.
[04:43] Kim Monson: And that takes us to our quote for the day.
[04:45] Kim Monson: Thomas Jefferson had a real understanding of how important freedom of speech and freedom of the press is.
[04:54] Kim Monson: And of course, he was our spokesman for democracy.
[04:57] Kim Monson: He was an American founding father.
[04:59] Kim Monson: He was the principal author of the Declaration of Independence and the third president in the United States.
[05:09] Kim Monson: And he said this, Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.
[05:17] Kim Monson: I submit to you, Steve, that we do not have freedom of the press right now.
[05:22] Kim Monson: The press is not searching for truth and being that entity that is supposed to be bringing forth to the people what is actually happening out there.
[05:37] Kim Monson: And that's why we're in a world of hurt.
[05:39] Kim Monson: And they're creating so much confusion.
[05:42] Kim Monson: And when we had Brent Littlefield on last week talking about ranked choice voting, the left likes confusion and chaos.
[05:52] Kim Monson: And our founding documents, our declaration, our constitution was put in place for reason and order.
[06:00] Kim Monson: And we can just see that they are really trying to keep the American people confused and obfuscate what's going on out there.
[06:09] Kim Monson: And the role of the press is to actually shed light on what is happening instead to obfuscate what's happening, Steve.
[06:16] Producer Steve: Well, they like confusion and chaos because that's usually the place where they can do, accomplish their objectives most effectively.
[06:25] Producer Steve: And, you know, I looked at this quote this morning, and again, thankfully, you're here to kind of buffer some of my raw thinking.
[06:34] Producer Steve: But, you know, they're not looking for the truth.
[06:38] Producer Steve: They're certainly not seeking it.
[06:39] Producer Steve: But it's their own, to me, their self-inflicted decision to do it.
[06:45] Producer Steve: I don't see them, and I'm never behind the scenes.
[06:50] Producer Steve: Who knows what's going on behind the scenes when the big network heads get together and they're in the presence of the administration and the influence that is exerted there.
[07:02] Producer Steve: But we've been seeing this for 25 years now.
[07:05] Kim Monson: Well, and it appears that there must be like a 6 a.
[07:08] Kim Monson: call where they put forth a narrative.
[07:12] Kim Monson: And then when you see, you've seen the montages of talking heads across the spectrum, parroting the same words.
[07:20] Kim Monson: And we realize there's this coordination that's going on.
[07:24] Kim Monson: More and more people are waking up.
[07:26] Kim Monson: There's still a group that just want to keep their head in the sand.
[07:31] Kim Monson: They don't want to have a conversation about this.
[07:33] Kim Monson: But I think that group is getting smaller and smaller.
[07:38] Kim Monson: And that's why what we do here is so important.
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[07:43] Kim Monson: And if we find out that we don't, we will certainly give you a correction on that.
[07:47] Kim Monson: We will search for truth and clarity and do our best to bring that to you.
[07:52] Kim Monson: And so I wanted to jump over here because Patty really wanted to have your take on this.
[07:58] Kim Monson: And you said that at the event the other night with Greg Lopez that was, he's running for governor, that he mentioned this as well.
[08:04] Kim Monson: He's a veteran and really of great concern.
[08:08] Kim Monson: And that's that the Norfolk Naval Base, it looks like that NATO is taking that over or there's a coordination.
[08:17] Kim Monson: And Patty pulled this from Defense News dot com.
[08:23] Kim Monson: And it says the NATO command in Norfolk reaches full stand up.
[08:27] Kim Monson: And I'm concerned about this because it looks like the Biden administration is just, on all different fronts, giving away our sovereignty.
[08:37] Kim Monson: And NATO is not shouldn't be in charge of of our national defense.
[08:44] Kim Monson: This is probably even unconstitutional, and Patty said I want to get Steve's read on this because you're a veteran as well.
[08:50] Producer Steve: Well, I've gone through it very quickly and what I see initially, you know.
[08:56] Producer Steve: Okay, let's let's go back real quick.
[08:58] Producer Steve: History.
[08:59] Producer Steve: NATO is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and it was, you know, developed, evolved right after World War II to kind of maybe keep the Russians in check, not knowing what their view of the world was going to be post-World War II.
[09:18] Producer Steve: And it was just exactly what it says.
[09:21] Producer Steve: It was the alliance, well, Atlantic Treaty Organization for European countries to kind of just have a unified view of what was to happen in that part of the world, that being the North Atlantic.
[09:37] Producer Steve: So what I'm seeing now, and it's possibly too soon to draw a definitive conclusion, but they're reacting to increase Russian submarine activity in the Atlantic, in the region.
[09:51] Producer Steve: And at this point, maybe they're just envisioning more of a strategic geographic pincer between the United States and Europe in the North Atlantic.
[10:05] Producer Steve: I just, I need more information to be able to draw a conclusion.
[10:10] Kim Monson: Well, and as I looked at this piece, a couple of things.
[10:15] Kim Monson: The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is General Mark Milley, and he's quoted in here.
[10:21] Kim Monson: He said, I would tell you that the survival of NATO, the success or failure in combat in a future war in Europe, would largely depend on the success or failure of this command.
[10:33] Kim Monson: I'm not sure that I really agree with that.
[10:36] Kim Monson: Certainly, when he talks about a future war in Europe, I think the NATO commands over there are very important.
[10:44] Kim Monson: And what I found really interesting is they go in here, and his father was a Navy corpsman at Iwo Jima.
[10:54] Kim Monson: and it's so interesting how you will see the conversation go back to greatness, if you will.
[11:07] Kim Monson: The Battle of Iwo Jima, what the Marines did there and the Navy corpsmen is absolutely astounding.
[11:11] Kim Monson: A lot of people don't even know our history, but they pull out parts of this history to kind of stand on that.
[11:19] Kim Monson: He says, in my view, the world is entering a period of potential instability as some nations, not all, but some are clearly terrorist groups and perhaps some rogue actors are seeking to undermine and challenge the existing international order.
[11:35] Kim Monson: Now, do you not remember how the rhetoric out there was that, oh my gosh, Trump will have his hand on the button and what's going to happen?
[11:45] Kim Monson: Well, actually what happened was we came into a time of more stability throughout the earth, throughout the world, and that actually Trump was nominated several times for the Nobel Peace Prize.
[12:04] Kim Monson: Now we're, what, seven months into the Biden administration, and instead of what we saw Trump and that administration moving towards, we now see this administration playing into instability, chaos, which is what this administration tends to like, Steve.
[12:23] Producer Steve: Well, I heard just back to back on my way in this morning in the USA Radio News talking about the Iranian attack on a tanker via a drone.
[12:36] Producer Steve: And certainly almost a day does not go by where you're not hearing of what China is ramping up in the South China Sea.
[12:46] Producer Steve: So this period of instability seems to be almost our reality.
[12:53] Producer Steve: It certainly, you can't sit back and say, well, nothing's happening in the world right now.
[12:57] Producer Steve: It's real.
[12:59] Producer Steve: It is happening.
[13:00] Producer Steve: So to that end, I'm wondering if his thought about increased instability is probably not something that's real and something that needs to be taken note of.
[13:13] Kim Monson: Well, and again, it looks like, and I can't quite understand if we've given Norfolk totally over to NATO or if it's something that is parallel to that.
[13:26] Kim Monson: But my friends, us giving up our sovereignty to our defense, that is a direct assault upon the vision of our country and one of the important components that is enumerated in the Constitution of what government is supposed to do.
[13:47] Kim Monson: But once again, I'm very concerned about that.
[13:50] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll talk with Patty Kurgan about the really important piece that she has done regarding Colorado Initiative 25.
[13:59] Kim Monson: And let's see, the actual title was Leap for Who.
[14:02] Kim Monson: And she's connecting more and more of the dots on this.
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[15:22] Kim Monson: We are an alternative to much of the din that you hear out there.
[15:26] Kim Monson: We look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[15:31] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do that.
[15:34] Kim Monson: And one of the things that America is built on, my friends, is representative government.
[15:41] Kim Monson: And we have seen our elected representatives abdicate what their duty is to many of these administrative bureaucratic agencies that we, the voters, then cannot touch.
[15:55] Kim Monson: But they live off of voters' money, off of taxpayers' money.
[15:59] Kim Monson: And this LEAP initiative, which it looks like they submitted their signatures from their petition this weekend, and it's very possibly going to be on the ballot.
[16:09] Kim Monson: They've got a whole bunch of money to try to push this forward.
[16:13] Kim Monson: And it's taken some time over the last few election cycles realizing that ballot question, that ballot title that you see on your ballot is not the whole story.
[16:29] Kim Monson: There's actually a whole initiative that backs that up.
[16:30] Kim Monson: And you need to check out the complete text of this.
[16:33] Kim Monson: Patty Kurgan, our researcher, has really been delving into this and then connecting the dots.
[16:40] Kim Monson: You can find it now on my website, but you'll get first look at these things if you're on our email list.
[16:46] Kim Monson: It's Colorado Initiative 25, Leap for Who.
[16:58] Kim Monson: You have been doing amazing work at really dissecting this about what really could happen with LEAP, that Learning Enrichment and Academic Progress Program.
[17:10] Kim Monson: And just a note, I would recommend that people go to our website, KimMonson.
[17:14] Kim Monson: com, and you have in this particular op-ed, if people have signed this and after hearing what we're talking about want to get their signatures off that petition, today is the last day to do that.
[17:28] Kim Monson: And there's instructions in your op-ed on how to do that, Patty.
[17:33] Patti Kurgan: All I have to do is email to the Colorado Secretary of State's office, and I have the address there stating that they would like their name removed.
[17:42] Kim Monson: So you continue to unpack what is happening.
[17:47] Kim Monson: So where should we start with regarding this op-ed?
[17:50] Patti Kurgan: Well, I just want to go back to what you were saying earlier in the show, that the truth is so important.
[17:56] Patti Kurgan: And that's exactly what we're trying to find here is the truth.
[18:03] Patti Kurgan: And that's the whole progress of this series that I've been doing.
[18:10] Patti Kurgan: And this latest one really references the second op-ed that I put together showing the progression of this initiative over 15, 20 years.
[18:21] Patti Kurgan: It was really the vision of a gentleman by the name of Tony Lewis, who worked for the Donnell Cade Foundation.
[18:28] Patti Kurgan: And out of that foundation came an organization called Reschool.
[18:31] Patti Kurgan: And a couple weeks ago, Miss Amy Anderson, she is the executive director for Reschool.
[18:39] Patti Kurgan: She did an interview with Heidi Ganahl on Heidi's Colorful Colorado podcast series.
[18:50] Patti Kurgan: In the last op-ed, I went to Reschool saying that this nonprofit organization is already doing what LEAP states is going to do in the future.
[19:02] Patti Kurgan: Anderson actually states that they are already working.
[19:06] Patti Kurgan: Reschool is working within the public school system right now with their program.
[19:18] Patti Kurgan: And she admits that she is the organization, Reschool is the education arm on Initiative 25 LEAP, which is the Learning, Enrichment, and Academic Progress Program.
[19:29] Patti Kurgan: And in her interview, though, she's stating that LEAP will be, quote, this is new money that is being raised to support learning accounts along the lines of what are we doing this summer with the learning dollars that would give kids access year-round to learning dollars that they could use to supplement school.
[19:50] Patti Kurgan: And so she's stating, yes, this will be new money for them, taxpayers' money, to fund their program, which is a nonprofit organization.
[20:01] Patti Kurgan: And Reschool has worked with many foundations and private organizations that have access to millions and billions of dollars.
[20:08] Patti Kurgan: I just don't understand why they're asking taxpayers to pay for their program.
[20:15] Patti Kurgan: And the fact of the matter is we can do this in the free market.
[20:22] Patti Kurgan: You can go to foundations and get the money.
[20:24] Patti Kurgan: It doesn't have to always be paid by the taxpayers.
[20:29] Kim Monson: Well, and let's just for those of those listeners that might be new to this is: this is: quote unquote: a new marijuana tax, ostensibly for after school programs for kids.
[20:45] Kim Monson: And there's some good people that have their name on the endorsement page right now.
[20:51] Kim Monson: And we are contacting them and really encouraging them, we're going to be contacting them and encouraging them to get their name off of this endorsement page.
[21:01] Kim Monson: But I think where this has kind of been sold to people is that this is a step toward vouchers.
[21:10] Kim Monson: And even the teachers union went from a support of this to a neutral position, because I think they think that this is a step toward vouchers.
[21:20] Kim Monson: And vouchers would be where families actually got money from the government that they could then use to make choices on their children's education.
[21:32] Kim Monson: But with LEAP, the money never touches the family.
[21:36] Kim Monson: And it's important to understand that LEAP will be governed by an unelected, unaccountable board chosen by this governor, and then these people then choose their replacements.
[21:49] Kim Monson: So even if we do the hard work and get a conservative Republican governor elected, they can't touch this.
[22:03] Kim Monson: This actually even debruces or detapers this money.
[22:06] Kim Monson: So anyone that's, that's for taper.
[22:08] Kim Monson: I cannot understand why they would be supporting this, because this is another taking the knees and taking taper out at the knees.
[22:15] Patti Kurgan: Patty right, and, and the fact of the matter is no, No one's truly addressing what is happening in our public schools.
[22:25] Patti Kurgan: And that's why this idea came out- is they're saying that public school has not met the needs of our students and the students are falling drastically behind.
[22:36] Patti Kurgan: And instead of addressing that problem, they're now setting up this parallel.
[22:42] Patti Kurgan: It's going to be a parallel government-run public school system with what is now existing.
[22:55] Kim Monson: That's why I think, so somebody emailed me on one of the weekend shows.
[23:00] Kim Monson: They were addressing this, and one of the Colorado state senators was talking about it, and he is supporting this.
[23:10] Kim Monson: And I think it's, and one of the points that they made was that the teachers union is not supporting this.
[23:17] Kim Monson: So that would be a good reason to support this, and one of our listeners reached out and mentioned that, and so I explained that.
[23:24] Kim Monson: I think why the teachers unions has pulled back their support of this is A, because it sets up a parallel system to the public school system that we have At least with our public school system.
[23:38] Kim Monson: We still have school boards where, again, we can do the hard work to try to get school board members elected that will actually represent the people instead of the teachers union.
[23:49] Kim Monson: Now, it's difficult, but that's the way it is supposed to be.
[23:54] Kim Monson: And so this is a parallel system to the public school system.
[23:57] Kim Monson: And then the other thing which you were really great in deducing on this is it takes money from the state land board trust that has been dedicated to the public school system and redirects part of that money over to, again, this LEAP, which is unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats that are running this.
[24:18] Kim Monson: So I wanted to make that clarification that I think that that's why there are those out there saying, oh, well, the teachers union thinks this is going towards vouchers as well.
[24:28] Kim Monson: But it's not a step towards vouchers.
[24:30] Kim Monson: And the other thing that you listen to that interview, and when we talk about Colorado being the petri dish for all of the kind of the naughty stuff that the left is trying to push forward, one of the quotes you have in here is this: this would be the first of its kind in the nation, and just let that sink in a little bit.
[24:54] Patti Kurgan: No, you're absolutely correct, and- and I did listen to that interview, and there's two points that are not being emphasized and some people are stating errors, and those are the two that I'm thinking about in particular- are: there's a lot of people think in the initiative states at the beginning that it's for all Colorado children and you read a couple pages and it's actually for a select group.
[25:27] Patti Kurgan: It's for only the eligible children that they have deemed needs this help, starting with low-income students or students who have certain disabilities.
[25:38] Patti Kurgan: And the other thing is They say, well, the parents get to choose what kind of program they would like for their student.
[25:45] Patti Kurgan: And the fallacy in that is, yes, they get to choose, but it's a pre-select list of vendors that this authority has set for parents.
[25:57] Patti Kurgan: So you just, if you really want a particular person to tutor your child, if they're not on that vendor list, you can't have your student tutored by that person.
[26:08] Patti Kurgan: Or if you want to go to a particular, they're also talking about like summer camps.
[26:13] Patti Kurgan: So let's say you want to send your child to a specific music summer camp.
[26:17] Patti Kurgan: If it's not on that vendor list, you can't participate in that.
[26:21] Patti Kurgan: So they're directing you as to where you can go for vendors, which raises a red flag for me.
[26:31] Patti Kurgan: Because, again, they get to choose and select the vendors.
[26:36] Kim Monson: Well, and what has been quoted is that this is along the line of the Charter Institute Board, which is a board that oversees some of the charter schools here in Colorado.
[26:52] Kim Monson: And of course, charter schools, the option for charter schools in school choice, that's a great thing.
[26:58] Kim Monson: And so I was talking to someone and they said that that has been working very well, this Charter Institute Board, Governor Polis is choosing the members of that board.
[27:08] Kim Monson: I did some additional checking out of that with some people that are very involved in the charter school arena and they said that their opinion is that the Polis appointments are moving the Charter Institute Board more and more to the left.
[27:23] Kim Monson: And in fact, it's getting to the point of, yes, you can choose as long as you choose something that we like.
[27:33] Kim Monson: And I see that also happening here.
[27:35] Kim Monson: I mean, really, what could go wrong?
[27:37] Kim Monson: This board, and they say that some of the board members will be, no more than five of the board members are from, I think, a particular political group or, you know, Democratic or Republican.
[27:56] Kim Monson: And so there's no assurance that there's going to be a diversity of thought on these particular boards, and I think that that needs to be addressed.
[28:10] Kim Monson: Patty, what's your final thought that you want to leave with listeners on this?
[28:14] Kim Monson: I really recommend that they go and read your series of op-eds.
[28:18] Kim Monson: Rick Turnquist has a good one on this, and then I have done one on 10 Reasons to Decline to Sign.
[28:23] Kim Monson: We'll probably have to change that to 10 reasons to vote no, because it looks like it's probably going to make the ballot this November.
[28:34] Patti Kurgan: The first one is read the ballot initiative.
[28:37] Patti Kurgan: It's actually a pretty easy read, so you will understand it doesn't have all that legal language in it.
[28:43] Patti Kurgan: And the second one is if you did sign this initiative, please call the Colorado Secretary of State's office.
[28:51] Patti Kurgan: And all you have to do is send an email to ballot.
[29:01] Patti Kurgan: And again, this is up on your website with my op-ed as well as some of the summaries that we have up from last week's shows.
[29:14] Kim Monson: The ballot title, which was what was on the petition, if you signed the petition or looked at that, the ballot title actually has some inconsistencies or maybe omissions, if you will, from what the language actually says.
[29:31] Kim Monson: And that's a big red flag to me when those two things aren't just totally congruent.
[29:38] Patti Kurgan: And I'll probably be piecing that apart in another op-ed.
[29:43] Kim Monson: Well, Patty Kurgan, thank you so much for all that you do for Colorado.
[29:54] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll be talking with author Julie Kayworth.
[29:57] Kim Monson: She did an excellent book review on Cheryl Atkinson's book, Slanted, How the News Media Taught Us to Love Censorship and Hate Journalism.
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[31:30] Kim Monson: Julie Kayworth's on the line, and she's an author.
[31:32] Kim Monson: She writes mysteries for book lovers, and I love to read all these.
[31:36] Kim Monson: unsolicited, unbound, unprintable, untitled, unsigned, and uncatalogued.
[31:41] Kim Monson: And these have topped the bestsellers list around the country.
[31:44] Kim Monson: And these novels feature London publisher Alex Plumtree, a studious James Bond of the book world.
[31:52] Kim Monson: And so be sure and check those out.
[31:54] Kim Monson: I was recently at a meeting where Julie led a book review for a number of women on Cheryl Atkinson's really important book, Slanted, how the news media taught us to love censorship and hate journalism.
[32:08] Kim Monson: And I learned a lot from that, and I thought that you could too.
[32:18] Kim Monson: And this book that Cheryl has written is a very important book.
[32:23] Kim Monson: Why do you think that it's so important, Julie?
[32:27] Julie Kaewert: Well, Cheryl Atkinson, after 30 years at CNN, PBS, and CBS, as one of their anchors even, has such a powerful story to tell because she witnessed from the inside how news changed from being all about reporting the facts and letting us decide what we think to reporting the narrative.
[32:53] Julie Kaewert: And she came to see over the years that, starting in about 2013,, she saw that her stories were being killed at the top level if they did not fit the narrative or if they damaged someone.
[33:09] Julie Kaewert: And she has a lot of stories like that to tell.
[33:20] Julie Kaewert: I think the most dramatic story, the book is full of these, by the way, amazing stories.
[33:26] Julie Kaewert: But she did a story about the Dreamliner, Boeing's airliner that had the fatal crashes and was such a disaster.
[33:35] Julie Kaewert: And a whistleblower at the Boeing plant contacted her and said, you know, Kim, we've had these huge explosions.
[33:45] Julie Kaewert: We've had these huge explosions of batteries here in the factory making the prototype.
[33:53] Julie Kaewert: And she even got a video of one of the explosions that this whistleblower had.
[34:16] Julie Kaewert: And she realized later, she kind of looked into what caused the New York producer to kill the story after it was such a good story.
[34:27] Julie Kaewert: And it was because Boeing had such powerful representation.
[34:32] Julie Kaewert: They had powerful lobbyist contacts with CBS at the highest level.
[34:38] Julie Kaewert: And so years later, when all those people died in the crashes, you know, Cheryl just was sick because she had reported the facts and the story had been killed because Boeing had been successful in canceling it.
[34:58] Julie Kaewert: In 2013, she first became aware of this when the president at the time had started a green energy bill.
[35:07] Julie Kaewert: And hundreds of millions of dollars were dedicated to this.
[35:07] Julie Kaewert: And a union official called her, called Cheryl, and said, do you realize that all of these hundreds of millions of dollars are going to Koreans who are using Korean-made parts to build these green energy devices?
[35:25] Julie Kaewert: And Cheryl said, well, would you do an interview with me?
[35:28] Julie Kaewert: And she got a rare interview with one of the union spokespeople.
[35:32] Julie Kaewert: And so here we have the left-leaning unions contacting the media and saying, our Democratic president is working against us.
[35:47] Julie Kaewert: She said it was one of the first times I remember becoming keenly aware of news managers who believe it is their role to keep viewers from learning the facts if they do not lead them to the right quote.
[36:09] Kim Monson: And how do you think this happened, Julie?
[36:12] Kim Monson: Lee, you mentioned 2013 in both of these, but it didn't just happen in 2013.
[36:20] Kim Monson: When do you think that this really started?
[36:25] Julie Kaewert: Here's another fascinating thing I learned from the book.
[36:30] Julie Kaewert: I mean, I'm sure you remember from your textbooks in maybe even elementary school, but definitely middle school and high school, we read about yellow journalism, which is what they called it then.
[36:42] Julie Kaewert: Well, in this book, we learned, my short answer to your question is, I think, in a way, this has always been going on.
[36:50] Julie Kaewert: But maybe we all believed in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, maybe we all believed for a while, that the journalistic standards taught at the time in journalism school were really true, and that people were abiding by them.
[37:12] Julie Kaewert: Even when I was in graduate school at the Kennedy Graduate School at Harvard, they absolutely valued objectivity.
[37:25] Julie Kaewert: And the highest responsibility of a reporter was to get the facts straight.
[37:36] Julie Kaewert: So, I mean, it has always been an issue over time, depending on who was in power.
[37:43] Julie Kaewert: So her book talks about way back, you know, with Woodrow Wilson.
[37:48] Julie Kaewert: He used the Sedition Act of 1918 against political opponents at newspapers and shut them down.
[37:55] Julie Kaewert: FDR unleashed the IRS on the Philadelphia Inquirer and other papers if they were not supporting his new deal.
[38:04] Julie Kaewert: Barack Obama and his FBI secretly subpoenaed and surveilled New York Times, Fox reporters, VAP, and Sheryl Atkinson.
[38:15] Julie Kaewert: So Sheryl Atkinson found herself, you know, when she was hacked, her, you know, her computer was being hacked.
[38:23] Julie Kaewert: She filed a number of suits from, let's say, eight years starting in 2008 because, you know, that's not allowed.
[38:37] Julie Kaewert: And she points up a number of discrepancies between the years beginning with 2016 to 2020, where, you know, the president called the press the enemy of the people, but he never bugged anyone.
[38:58] Julie Kaewert: He didn't try to shut down stories the way these other presidents did.
[39:04] Julie Kaewert: So it's a matter of the truth versus the narrative again.
[39:09] Kim Monson: Well, we've had Cheryl on the show several different times, Julie.
[39:14] Kim Monson: And I remember her talking about when her computers had been bugged and, again, bugged by the Department of Justice.
[39:23] Kim Monson: And she said that she was at her computer and she did not have her hand on her mouse and her cursor started moving all over her screen, and it was like a message that we are watching you.
[39:38] Kim Monson: And I asked her, weren't you scared?
[39:41] Kim Monson: And if I recall correctly, she said, no, I really got, I was just mad.
[39:47] Kim Monson: And I said, well, was that under, I guess it was the DOJ and FBI.
[39:54] Kim Monson: I said, was that under James Comey as FBI director?
[40:00] Kim Monson: And she said it was actually before then.
[40:02] Kim Monson: And I said, who was the director at that time?
[40:05] Kim Monson: It was Robert Mueller, if you can believe that, Julie.
[40:16] Kim Monson: We're going to go to break, Julie, here in just a moment.
[40:19] Kim Monson: And when we come back, one of the things that you had brought forth when you were doing the book review was about this narrative.
[40:26] Kim Monson: And there is a narrative that was decided to be pushed, and it is being pushed all the time right now.
[40:39] Kim Monson: And I thought it was just very telling when you brought it forward that that is a narrative that they said just continue to hit that.
[40:48] Kim Monson: When we come back, we're going to continue the conversation with Julie K.
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[43:04] Kim Monson: She writes mysteries for book lovers, unsolicited, unbound, unprintable, untitled, unsigned, and uncatalogued.
[43:11] Kim Monson: And they've topped bestseller lists around the country.
[43:13] Kim Monson: And it features London publisher Alex Plumtree, a studious James Bond of the book world.
[43:18] Kim Monson: I tell you what, Julie, I would love to step back and take a vacation and take all your books and read them.
[43:29] Julie Kaewert: Well, I have been excited recently because there's been some interest in a TV series.
[43:38] Julie Kaewert: And I have always enjoyed books and movies that have a lot of suspense and action, but not a lot of violence and not a lot of horrible language or anything.
[43:52] Julie Kaewert: I've always thought anything I wrote, I wanted my children to be able to read and proudly.
[43:58] Julie Kaewert: So yeah, I hope that the TV series will come to pass, but thank you for that.
[44:07] Kim Monson: Would that would be so cool, and I always said to my kids that I think books and art should celebrate the human spirit, because there's so much things, there's so much out there that doesn't celebrate the human spirit, and so I'm very excited, Exactly.
[44:59] Kim Monson: We need uplifting characters and inspiration.
[45:04] Kim Monson: We don't need to be pulled down anymore.
[44:37] Kim Monson: That brings up one other thing before we get back over to Cheryl Atkinson's book.
[44:42] Kim Monson: And when we talk about this, again, her book, she's searching for truth and clarity, and that celebrates the human spirit.
[44:48] Kim Monson: But I remember in the 70s and the 80s when we started to have R-rated movies.
[44:54] Kim Monson: You're probably not that old, but R-rated movies and that this was art and we needed to accept this because of art.
[45:00] Kim Monson: And we now fast forward here into today and what's happened.
[45:05] Kim Monson: Harvey Weinstein, who had been celebrated as this great purveyor of art, was actually, we realize, he wasn't celebrating the human spirit.
[45:16] Kim Monson: He was preying upon the human spirit.
[45:18] Kim Monson: And I guess the good thing about it is ultimately the truth always comes out.
[45:23] Kim Monson: But we were sold a bill of goods on that this was art when in essence it was looking, I think more at not celebrating the human spirit, but really pushing forward the side of the human spirit that was more, I don't know what the word is, not based on uplifting and trying to talk.
[45:50] Kim Monson: Maybe, Julie, I need you to help me out here on this.
[45:53] Kim Monson: There's words that are coming to mind that I'm not sure I can say.
[45:56] Kim Monson: And so what's your thoughts on that?
[45:58] Julie Kaewert: I totally understand more the kind of animal spirit and a fascination with depravity, negativity, violence, all of those things.
[46:10] Julie Kaewert: And Kim, one last comment on this I will never forget.
[46:14] Julie Kaewert: I was arriving at a movie theater, this was maybe 10 years ago now, to go into a different movie, not the James Patterson violent serial killer, you know, top-selling movie, but a different one.
[46:33] Julie Kaewert: And his father was buying him a ticket for the serial killer thing and was going to leave and leave him there alone.
[46:40] Julie Kaewert: And I just, I didn't want to embarrass the father, but I kind of whispered in his ear, are you aware what these movies are about?
[46:48] Julie Kaewert: I don't know that it's good for your son to see this movie and alone.
[46:56] Julie Kaewert: And I don't know what they ever did, but, you know, little kids, little young boys seeing these movies where terrible things are done to women.
[47:09] Kim Monson: and you really were able to get all the words there.
[47:12] Kim Monson: I was thinking of animalistic depravity, all of those negative things.
[47:17] Kim Monson: And we kind of, as a society, bought into that for the last, again, I want to say starting in the 70s, which it came out of the 60s, I think.
[47:28] Kim Monson: And now we're realizing just what had happened on that.
[47:33] Kim Monson: And so I think, again, we only have a certain amount of hours in the day, Julie.
[47:37] Kim Monson: And we make decisions on how, what we do with those hours in the day.
[47:42] Kim Monson: And it's important, I think, to continue to to, instead of thinking of the animalistic things, to think of the uplifting things and to strive for excellence and to search for truth, because there's only a certain amount of hours in the day and this, this I'll, I'll put, and I hate to say circle this around because of of how that's been used these days.
[48:05] Kim Monson: But when we take a look at this LEAP initiative that's going on, our kids are falling behind.
[48:12] Kim Monson: And it's because we are not using our teachers' resources and time in the school day to be teaching, reading, writing, arithmetic, literature, critical thinking, science, history, but instead are teaching the CRT, the critical race theory, or iterations thereof that are dividing us.
[48:31] Kim Monson: as well as the LGTBQ agenda, which is sexualizing our kids.
[48:36] Kim Monson: Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if that's what you're teaching during the day.
[48:39] Kim Monson: No wonder we're falling behind over here on these things.
[48:43] Kim Monson: And now you have politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties want to come in with this LEAP initiative and put in a tax for kids' after-school programs.
[48:51] Kim Monson: And they talk about reading, writing, and arithmetic, but they're also talking about supporting emotional health, mental health, soccer balls, all kinds of things.
[49:01] Kim Monson: And so, again, I think we need to get focused on what we need to do.
[49:06] Kim Monson: Any comment on that before we move back over to Cheryl Atkinson's book, Julie?
[49:10] Julie Kaewert: Well, just that I know from personal experience, in the way Cheryl Atkinson knows about journalism, I know what young people are being taught because for the last 15 years I've been working with young high schoolers as they apply to college.
[49:24] Julie Kaewert: And it's astonishing what they have been taught is true.
[49:32] Julie Kaewert: They have received the narrative up and down, and they can't even hear facts that counter the narrative.
[49:44] Julie Kaewert: So we, all of us, I believe, as you just said, in fact, I just wrote it into the new plum tree that I was working on the other day, the new book.
[49:54] Julie Kaewert: I just wrote, the plum tree says, the truth will out.
[50:00] Julie Kaewert: And I have to believe, I do believe, we must believe, we must have hope that if we stand for the truth and actual facts and the truth, that that will be supported in the grand scheme of things.
[50:15] Julie Kaewert: Because, Kim, you do see the truth does always come out that our young people are being crippled by being taught lies that are not facts.
[50:26] Julie Kaewert: They're being taught the narrative and not the truth and that.
[50:35] Kim Monson: And in fact, I talked with a young woman, I would say she's probably in her mid-30s, mom, and she'd gone through the public school system, and her husband, I think, had gone through, it was homeschool, I think, for a portion of his schooling.
[50:53] Kim Monson: And this was when we were doing our study, the Federalist Papers.
[50:57] Kim Monson: She said I never learned this in public school.
[51:00] Kim Monson: She said I feel so cheated, and so, once again, I think the truth is coming out on this, this julie- and uh, I guess that's one of the the silver linings on this cloud of covid- is that parents are waking up and seeing what's been happening, and- and I find that really encouraging.
[51:17] Kim Monson: One other thing, though, that moving over to cheryl atkinson's book that you brought out in the book review that you did- is this narrative of racism.
[51:28] Kim Monson: And that was something that was decided on, and they said, this is what we are going to push constantly, and they have been doing that.
[51:36] Julie Kaewert: This was something that I was just astonishing to read all these stories of things that actually happened.
[51:45] Julie Kaewert: So you might remember that the New York Times editorial meeting, a big planning meeting they have to plan the next two years of their editorial content was leaked to Slate by someone at the meeting, someone who perhaps was equally disgusted because these journalists are conflicted.
[52:05] Julie Kaewert: And I have a good quote from the book here to read to you before we're done about.
[52:11] Julie Kaewert: The people at the TV stations, and the big newspapers are not all happy about this.
[52:19] Julie Kaewert: They have fallen into line because they'll lose their jobs if they don't.
[52:21] Julie Kaewert: But anyway, the New York Times at this meeting decided that they were going to make every story about racism.
[52:42] Julie Kaewert: And as you know, Mark Levin has been so excellent in raising our awareness of what Marxism in America is.
[52:56] Julie Kaewert: Karl Marx said, everything that exists deserves to be destroyed.
[53:05] Julie Kaewert: The New York Times is, you know, trying, and they made this decision in their editorial meeting that every story would divide, would break down by making these claims of racism.
[53:20] Julie Kaewert: And yes, so it was all decided ahead of time what facts they would present and what lens they would be presented through.
[53:39] Julie Kaewert: So here's what the editor of a major editorial figure at a major international publication said.
[54:17] Julie Kaewert: He said, So the New York Times is really now finding itself forced to go along with whatever social media demands that it does.
[54:29] Julie Kaewert: And in At Guess and Fuck, there's this fantastic exposure of the Orwellian positions they're put into.
[54:37] Julie Kaewert: Because if they publicize, for instance, at one point, President Trump was accused of there was a rape allegation that was completely unsupported by facts.
[54:49] Julie Kaewert: But they didn't put it on page one because there has always been a high bar in journalism with sexual accusations, at least until Brett Kavanaugh and Donald Trump.
[55:03] Julie Kaewert: You had to have people come forward, have facts.
[55:09] Julie Kaewert: So then everybody was, they kind of put it still halfway going by journalistic ethics.
[55:17] Julie Kaewert: Then social media ate their lunch because they hadn't put it on page one.
[55:22] Julie Kaewert: So then you had them apologizing in this bizarre Orwellian double think.
[55:30] Julie Kaewert: They were apologizing for not putting it on page one.
[55:36] Julie Kaewert: And then they did, they reversed a number of times now, they reversed themselves and changed headlines, bumped things up to page one suddenly, just, you know, for people's demands.
[55:47] Julie Kaewert: And then they had to apologize for the story because it wasn't true.
[55:50] Julie Kaewert: So they're contorting themselves in all kinds of strange positions.
[55:58] Kim Monson: Julie Kayworth, this has been very, very fascinating.
[56:02] Kim Monson: Would recommend that people read Cheryl's book.
[56:05] Kim Monson: I hope the TV series happens because I don't watch much TV, but I'll watch that.
[56:13] Julie Kaewert: It's been a real pleasure to be with you today.
[56:17] Kim Monson: And our quote for today, and again, that was Julie K.
[56:24] Kim Monson: He said, I am for freedom of the press and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents.
[56:40] Kim Monson: So, my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[56:52] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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