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[02:05] Producer Steve: Hey that I'm sorry to jump in on here.
[02:10] Producer Steve: That that reminds me because something after you left the station yesterday, something was up regarding our show on monday with um, oh geez, Cynthia.
[02:20] Kim Monson: I got that email and I did send that information over.
[02:22] Producer Steve: Okay, well, I just.
[02:24] Producer Steve: There were other people calling the front desk and saying they couldn't find the website, and it's all because of that little play on words.
[02:29] Producer Steve: Okay, just defy org.
[02:33] Producer Steve: Too many times I think people were looking for the word justify.
[02:36] Producer Steve: Okay.
[02:36] Kim Monson: So just a point, so that website was just Just defy.
[02:42] Kim Monson: Org and yeah, okay, good to know, and you can email us at Kim, at Kim Monson, calm as well, and thank you to each and every one of you who are contributing to keep our independent voice on the airwaves.
[02:56] Kim Monson: I'm so excited about our guest, Cheryl Atkinson, in segments three and four.
[03:02] Kim Monson: She's written this book slanted how the news media taught us to love censorship and hate journalism, and our independent voice is an important one out there and you're a big part of it because you're a sponsor of the show.
[03:15] Kim Monson: You're welcome, Kim, glad to do it, and I'm excited.
[03:18] Kim Monson: I know you're excited to talk to Cheryl as well.
[03:20] Kim Monson: Yes, so we'll be talking with her in segments three and four and let's, let's see here, let's go to, let's go to our inspiration or our wisdom quote.
[03:34] Kim Monson: Uh, I am always looking for some a quote to have something to do with what we're doing on the show.
[03:41] Kim Monson: So I was looking for censorship quotes and I was talking to, uh, somebody that I know well- she's a millennial and a philosophy major, and she suggested john stewart mill and and certainly there was an excellent censorship quote.
[03:56] Kim Monson: Let me tell you a a little bit about him.
[03:58] Kim Monson: You probably all know about him, but I'm learning all the time.
[04:01] Kim Monson: And John Stuart Mill was born in 1806 and died in 1873.
[04:08] Kim Monson: And he was the most influential English language philosopher of the 19th century.
[04:14] Kim Monson: He was a naturalist, a utilitarian, and a liberal, whose work explores the consequences of a thoroughgoing empirist outlook.
[04:22] Kim Monson: In doing so, he sought to combine the best of 18th century Enlightenment thinking with newly emerging currents of 19th century romantic and historical philosophy.
[04:31] Kim Monson: His most important works include System of Logic, that was 1843, On Liberty, 1859, Utilitarianism, 1861, and an examination of Sir William Hamilton's philosophy in 1865.
[04:46] Kim Monson: Now, you didn't go to school with him.
[04:48] Kim Monson: He was a couple of years ahead of you, Steve.
[04:51] Producer Steve: Don't go there.
[04:54] Kim Monson: First thing, this is the first quote I wanted to share with you.
[04:58] Kim Monson: When one's ideas are not challenged, one's ability to defend them weakens.
[05:04] Kim Monson: And producer Steve, I thought that is so appropriate right now is that what we're seeing with all the big media and in big education, let me call it the media industrial complex, the education industrial complex, is they do not want to even have their ideas challenged.
[05:23] Kim Monson: And that only happens because they don't want to have to defend them because in effect, they may not be able to, it may not be able to stand up to the test of scrutiny, Steve.
[05:34] Producer Steve: Well, the other half of that is when one's ideas are not challenged.
[05:39] Producer Steve: I kind of think, how many people don't have ideas?
[05:43] Producer Steve: They are so entrenched in going with the flow and really not very well versed on anything.
[05:51] Producer Steve: It's like, do you have an idea?
[05:53] Kim Monson: And that brings up a term, intellectual curiosity.
[05:57] Kim Monson: Helen Jean Mitchell, I know that intellectual curiosity is something that is really important to you as you were preparing for this show and looking at censorship.
[06:07] Kim Monson: I mean, I'm looking at some of the notes that we have here intellectual curiosity is something that is very important to you.
[06:14] Helen Mitchell: Yes, one of my biggest fears is you know when you get up in front of a crowd is you know I don't want to sound stupid, right?
[06:22] Helen Mitchell: I just don't want to sound stupid and my father always taught me you need to be prepared, you need to be educated, you need to review, you need to know history so that you can back up what you're going to say and you know just don't embarrass the family.
[06:36] Kim Monson: Well and And preparation is really a key to success.
[06:41] Kim Monson: But, Producer Steve, I found this other quote from John Stuart Mill.
[06:50] Kim Monson: He was considered the most influential English language philosopher of the 19th century.
[06:55] Kim Monson: And this one, I thought, we need to unpack this just a little bit.
[06:59] Producer Steve: Before you read this, you need to put a disclaimer out.
[07:03] Producer Steve: This one's rather caustic.
[07:08] Kim Monson: He's been studied in colleges for years and years and years.
[07:13] Kim Monson: You can see that he's considered very influential, very effective.
[07:18] Kim Monson: And this quote, he said, although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.
[07:29] Kim Monson: Now, I've been talking about this battle of the narrative right now.
[07:34] Kim Monson: I did not have an idea that the word conservative, I mean, this is in the mid-19th century that they were going after it.
[07:42] Kim Monson: And, of course, that was during that time that you were starting to see that push towards progressivism.
[07:48] Kim Monson: That was coming out of the mid-1800s.
[07:52] Kim Monson: And so, as Helen just said here, she prepares so she doesn't appear stupid.
[07:58] Kim Monson: Well, who on earth would want to say I'm conservative because here's one of the most influential people out there saying that if you're conservative, basically you're stupid.
[08:08] Kim Monson: I mean, what do you think of that, Helen?
[08:12] Helen Mitchell: It just, you know, there's a play on words here, too.
[08:15] Helen Mitchell: You know, most conservatives as a person, and then they turn it around and say are conservatives as an adjective.
[08:24] Helen Mitchell: That makes a difference in what they're saying here.
[08:26] Helen Mitchell: I think most people today are conservative because they practice fiscal responsibility.
[08:37] Helen Mitchell: You may even say nobody likes to waste resources, any kind of resources.
[08:45] Kim Monson: Well, and there has been this push, though, I think in colleges.
[08:49] Kim Monson: I saw it from a number of young people that they were being taught that conservatives, They basically wanted to take advantage of the land, take advantage of water, take advantage of other people.
[09:03] Kim Monson: When in essence, what you're seeing is those that really want to take advantage of people, the veil is off now.
[09:10] Kim Monson: It is the radical activist group that has taken over the Democrat Party.
[09:15] Kim Monson: So if you're a blue dog Democrat, you're a libertarian, an independent, a Republican, a conservative, I think we can all actually come together and conserve the idea, the American idea, that all men are created equal by God with these rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
[09:33] Kim Monson: That is really what the word conservative means.
[09:37] Kim Monson: But I thought it was important because I did not realize that this war on language had been occurring for so many years.
[09:45] Kim Monson: And so anyway, but also I think that he pretty well nails it on his censorship quotes.
[09:49] Kim Monson: And, of course, we will be talking with Cheryl Atkinson with that in segments three and four.
[09:55] Kim Monson: We'll also be going through some headlines, a couple of things.
[09:59] Kim Monson: The long bill, the long appropriations bill is finally out.
[10:03] Kim Monson: And I think that you will be shocked to find out what is actually happening with Colorado finances.
[10:10] Kim Monson: And I think we'll talk about that just a little bit.
[10:13] Kim Monson: And this is from the Center Square.
[10:15] Kim Monson: It says Colorado Senate Democrats introduced the 2021 budget bill.
[10:20] Kim Monson: And we've just gone through the scamdemic where polis has basically shut down our state.
[10:26] Kim Monson: It is a ghost town going up and down one of the thoroughfares in my hometown, with the number of restaurants that have gone out of business, and there's been a real assault on small business- and unbelievable to me.
[10:40] Kim Monson: The state's budget is projected to be 34..
[10:43] Kim Monson: 1 billion, which is an 11 percent increase from the previous year despite this pandemic, and it includes funding for one-time projects, relief measures for low-income Coloradans and funding to enhance the state's economic resiliency we've actually seen the way to get an economic engine going is, first of all, to not shut down our small businesses and, secondly, to reduce regulations, reduce taxes, and that is where you can really have economic resiliency.
[11:17] Kim Monson: But under this particular funding budget that we have here, it puts more and more government, more and more decisions, more and more money in the pockets of government.
[11:31] Kim Monson: And we have to wonder, where did that 11%increase from the previous year, where did all that money come from?
[11:37] Kim Monson: And I would suggest that's probably the payoff from the Biden plan, where they're printing money and then paying off the blue state governors, the blue state mayors for the very, very bad decisions that they made.
[11:51] Kim Monson: So the money they say will be going to, this is what the Democrats say, that the money will be allocated to what they call the big six, the Department of Health Care Policy and Financing, the Department of Education, the Department of Higher Education, I guess we should say the Department of Indoctrination, the Department of Higher Indoctrination, the Department of Human Services, and the Department of Corrections, and the Judicial Department.
[12:17] Kim Monson: However, this is the quote from the Senate Republicans.
[12:22] Kim Monson: This is Sage Nauman, who is a spokesperson for the Colorado Senate GOP.
[12:26] Kim Monson: He said, Senate Republicans remain committed to ensuring our state prioritizes jobs, students, and our roads and bridges in this year's budget.
[12:36] Kim Monson: The gop is advocating for no pet projects, no experiments, no social engineering.
[12:47] Kim Monson: Let's catch- uh, catch- our students up because our kids are falling behind, my friends, our kids are falling behind, and let's make a legitimate investment in our roads and bridges without raising taxes or fees, he added.
[12:58] Kim Monson: So we're going to go to break before we do that, though.
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[14:53] Kim Monson: In studio with me is one of my great partners and sponsors of the show, and that is Helen Jean Mitchell.
[14:59] Kim Monson: And, Helen, during break, we had talked before we went to break about the state's budget.
[15:08] Kim Monson: And you had a question or a comment.
[15:09] Helen Mitchell: Yeah, I was back at the, what is economic resiliency?
[15:12] Helen Mitchell: I mean, isn't that normal trade and commerce spurred on by people's freedom to make choices?
[15:19] Helen Mitchell: I mean, now we're going to tax you to do that, which is what?
[15:27] Kim Monson: But those are words that people like.
[15:30] Kim Monson: Doesn't economic resiliency sound great?
[15:32] Kim Monson: But whenever government gets involved, and we've seen this as the bills that we look at, there's just a number of them.
[15:41] Kim Monson: It's a redistribution from people, from one person to another.
[15:44] Kim Monson: And when you start to tax somebody because they've been more successful, maybe they've.
[15:50] Kim Monson: They've worked a lot more hours than 40 hours a week, they've taken risks or whatever.
[15:54] Kim Monson: It's not fair to tax them more and tax somebody else less.
[15:58] Kim Monson: I don't think I think there should be.
[16:01] Kim Monson: I think it should be a the same percentage across the spectrum, because then I think we'd make better decisions at the voting box.
[16:13] Helen Mitchell: You know we're going to fund this so that you can be that way when it.
[16:21] Kim Monson: Well, and I think that, uh, in essence they're using the word economic resiliency, but yet it was government helen that shut down our businesses.
[16:32] Kim Monson: Oh yes, and so now they want to come in and say they're going to help.
[16:35] Kim Monson: You're seeing this term coming out of the World Economic Forum.
[16:40] Kim Monson: It's also Joe Biden's campaign slogan, and that is build back better.
[16:48] Kim Monson: And I think a lot of people have seen what happened under the Trump administration with lower regulations, lower taxes.
[16:57] Kim Monson: I talked to a number of people that are maybe more apolitical, and they said, you know, I did pretty well under the Trump administration.
[17:05] Kim Monson: And they're going to see that things are changing a bit under the Biden administration.
[17:09] Helen Mitchell: Yeah, fewer impediments to letting me do what I need to do.
[17:14] Kim Monson: And have the responsibility for your decisions.
[17:18] Kim Monson: I want to go over to another headline.
[17:20] Kim Monson: This is from CNBC and Janet Yellen.
[17:27] Kim Monson: And on Monday, she will call for, I guess this is next Monday, for a minimum tax levy on corporations around the world in an effort to keep companies from relocating to find lower rates.
[17:40] Kim Monson: She said, we are working with G20 nations to agree to a global minimum corporate tax rate that can stop the race to the bottom, Yellen told the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and prepared marks.
[17:53] Kim Monson: The remarks came as President Joe Biden looks to raise the corporate tax rate as a way to pay for a$ 2 trillion infrastructure improvement plan.
[18:02] Kim Monson: And under the administration's proposal, the corporate tax rate would climb from 28%from 21.
[18:08] Kim Monson: And that increase would come just four years after former President Donald Trump slashed the rate from 35%, which at that time was the highest in the world.
[18:15] Kim Monson: And one reason the Trump administration cut the corporate tax rate was the rash of U.
[18:20] Kim Monson: companies offshoring or moving their domiciles to countries with lower corporate tax rates, even though much of their operations happened domestically.
[18:30] Kim Monson: It says, Yellen will tell the conference that establishing a minimum global corporate rate will help bring stability and provide a more level playing field for all countries.
[18:40] Kim Monson: And then she uses the word competitiveness, right?
[18:44] Kim Monson: You're going to use government to actually say we're not going to be competitive between countries.
[18:49] Kim Monson: But she said it's more about than how U.
[18:52] Kim Monson: headquartered companies fare against other companies in global merger and acquisition bids.
[18:55] Kim Monson: It's about making sure that governments have stable tax systems that raise sufficient revenues to invest in essential public goods and respond to crisis, and all citizens fairly share the burden of financing government.
[19:07] Kim Monson: Yeah, see, now here's another word here, global.
[19:15] Helen Mitchell: So I'm going to tax you because I know you're here, but somebody over there, I'm going to tell them I'm going to tax them, but how are you going to enforce that?
[19:24] Kim Monson: And I think that you've really hit the nail on the head because once again, corporations, even though you see how they're acting down in Georgia, which I know, Steve, that is one of the things that you just can't believe with this whole Major League Baseball All- Stargame that is now coming to Colorado, which I feel is probably a– I mean, we really have been draconian here in our lockdowns, and we still are.
[19:49] Kim Monson: I almost feel like it's a reward to Colorado for the draconian things that they're doing.
[19:55] Kim Monson: But you've seen corporations down in Georgia where they're stepping up and they're saying that we don't want to have voter ID laws and saying that's a real problem.
[20:09] Kim Monson: But yet you're also seeing that corporations don't like to pay more in taxes.
[20:17] Kim Monson: and I kind of got off the rails over there on that Major League Baseball thing.
[20:21] Kim Monson: And so you would see, even though corporations say that they support these draconian policies, that when it comes right down to the bottom line, they move to states, they move to countries where they pay less in taxes.
[20:34] Kim Monson: And Biden and Harris and the administration saw what happened the last time they had such high taxes and corporations left the United States.
[20:43] Kim Monson: when Donald Trump got into office and slashed that corporate tax rate, those businesses came back to America.
[20:51] Kim Monson: Now what's happening, as Janet Yellen knows, that the policies that Biden is putting in place is those corporations, even though they say they like these leftist policies, they don't really, and so they're trying to stop them from leaving.
[21:03] Kim Monson: But what will happen then, and I think, Helen, you and I were talking about this, is there's going to be a wink- wink, becauseI think that the U.
[21:12] Kim Monson: underBiden is losing status in the world.
[21:15] Kim Monson: You saw the way that the Chinese treated our representatives up in Alaska.
[21:21] Kim Monson: And so they'll wink, wink, say, oh, yes, we are going to agree to this corporate tax rate.
[21:26] Kim Monson: And then I see them making deals on the side.
[21:31] Kim Monson: And so I think that we will see corporations leave, which will mean even less jobs for Americans.
[21:39] Kim Monson: and you saw right off the bat when Biden came into office with shutting down the construction of the XL pipeline, many people lost their jobs immediately.
[21:48] Kim Monson: Steve, what's your thoughts on this global tax?
[21:50] Producer Steve: I think, you know, here we go again, that Ms.
[21:54] Producer Steve: Janet Yellen is talking about both sides of her face at the same time.
[22:00] Producer Steve: And maybe she's just been around Obama and Biden too much.
[22:03] Producer Steve: But it's just, what do they have against being competitive?
[22:07] Producer Steve: There's one question for you, and you've already answered it.
[22:12] Producer Steve: So what was the other thing that struck me while you were explaining this?
[22:15] Producer Steve: It's just enforcement.
[22:18] Producer Steve: Again, you already touched on that as well.
[22:21] Producer Steve: It just defies the imagination.
[22:23] Producer Steve: And ultimately, again, which you've already addressed.
[22:28] Producer Steve: I don't know why you tossed to me, because you've already covered all this.
[22:30] Producer Steve: Well, it's always good to hear something a second time.
[22:32] Producer Steve: Well, again, what we have witnessed in the last six years or so when Trump brought the tax rate down to 21 percent and Biden's going to jack it right back up to, you know, thankfully he's only stopping at, what, 28.
[22:46] Producer Steve: But still.
[22:48] Producer Steve: And then to your point regarding what this nonsense in Georgia, I guarantee you the heads of Major League Baseball, the head of Coke, the head of Delta, they're all very wealthy men.
[22:59] Producer Steve: Do they really give a flip about trying to- you know, everyday people- yeah, that- and trying to get our voting system back in check?
[23:11] Producer Steve: No, they really don't, because it allows the the left to keep on doing what they, what they're committed to do, and unfortunately, I just wish I could hear a good idea come from the left, a good philosophy in government.
[23:25] Producer Steve: You won't hear it, and therefore all we have is this nonstop attack on our voting system to make sure it keeps going in their direction and in the absence of any really good policy.
[23:37] Kim Monson: Well, I don't want to mention one other thing.
[23:40] Kim Monson: The narrative out there is, oh, corporations are bad.
[23:46] Kim Monson: When you really look at it over history and in the 20th century, it was not corporations that killed millions and millions and millions of people.
[23:57] Kim Monson: It was governments with Marxist ideas, fascist ideas.
[24:02] Kim Monson: So there's Mao in China, there was Pol Pot in Cambodia, there was Stalin, there was Hitler.
[24:12] Kim Monson: Those are governments that came in and actually hurt everyday people.
[24:16] Kim Monson: It wasn't corporations, but they've tried to say that corporations are the big bad guys.
[24:22] Kim Monson: and actually Lincoln had been concerned about corporations gaining too much power and we are seeing that in America right now, big business and big government like each other, but I find it really ironic that here we have these NGOs, they're non- governmental organizations,they're non- profits, thatthey don't pay a corporate tax or unions big money, they don't pay corporate tax, but yet it's the corporations that they say that they're going to go after.
[24:53] Kim Monson: And I just wanted to make that point.
[24:55] Kim Monson: Helen, you look like you had a comment.
[24:57] Kim Monson: Did you have anything you wanted to add to that?
[24:59] Helen Mitchell: Well, the government is filled with non- elected bureaucrats,and their agenda is to stay non- elected andto get paid, and have something to justify their agenda to keep them there.
[25:16] Kim Monson: Andbureaucrats, they are not creating anything.
[25:20] Kim Monson: They are being paid by tax dollars from people that go out and produce.
[25:25] Kim Monson: And as you mentioned, they don't solve the problem because if they solve the problem they said they were working on, then they would be out of a job.
[25:35] Helen Mitchell: And that's what most people do in corporate America.
[25:37] Helen Mitchell: You know, once you're finished with the task, once you're finished with the project, you either go to another project, but most of the time you're gone.
[25:47] Helen Mitchell: Well, starting in 2012, when uh biden and his uh force was in power- and this is just a rewind from that- it is we're just backing up to the same trough.
[25:57] Kim Monson: The thing that is interesting, though, is it seems like that they are on uh just this warp speed mission to unravel all of the great things that happened under the trump administration.
[26:07] Kim Monson: I think a lot of people are paying attention when we talk with josh phillip.
[26:11] Kim Monson: The other day, he mentioned that there is an awakening.
[26:22] Kim Monson: And we're going to be seeing, I think, I think we're going to see a real grassroots movement pushing back on this, not only here in America, but across the world.
[26:44] Jason McBride: And Jason McBride, senior VP with Presidential Wealth Management, is on the line.
[26:44] Kim Monson: And, hey, Jason, I thought this was so interesting about Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen looking like she's going to try to strong arm other countries into having a corporate tax rate so that it's even so that people don't leave because of our very bad policies that Biden- Harris aregoing to be putting into place.
[26:47] Jason McBride: Well, I guess interesting is an interesting word, Kim.
[26:51] Jason McBride: I think, when you get a government that's trying to control the entire global corporate market with incentives and threats and corporate tax rates and extra taxes and all that type of thing, I don't know how you expect to get a good outcome out of that.
[27:20] Jason McBride: However, I do believe that a lot of the corporations are so in bed these days with the government that they'll get exemptions and exceptions, and they won't end up paying a lot of it anyway.
[27:52] Kim Monson: Uh, now I don't want to sound like uh biden and elizabeth warren, uh, making claims that our corporations don't pay a penny in income tax, because I that is not true.
[27:49] Jason McBride: So, uh kim, I'm all over the place because their messaging is so all over the place on this that you can't figure out what they're saying from one day to the next.
[28:00] Kim Monson: Well, and actually, corporations pass the taxes on to the consumer, but it's also in some ways it's double taxation, because the consumer is is paying taxes with their own money and then they're buying products that are being taxed as well.
[28:15] Kim Monson: But I, I want to drill down on this fact that the ngos, which have become very powerful, these non- governmental organizations,these big big quote- unquote non-profits, theydon't pay taxes but yet they're making money.
[28:28] Kim Monson: You can be guaranteed that they're making money.
[28:30] Kim Monson: So Hey, Jason McBride, with all that's going on, and there's a lot of unknowns, but there are knowns out there.
[28:38] Kim Monson: I would suggest that people sit down with you to do their planning as we're looking into the future.
[28:43] Kim Monson: And the market is at an extreme high.
[28:45] Kim Monson: Again, not giving any tax or giving any investment advice, but it may make some sense to move some things around.
[28:53] Kim Monson: And you're the guy to talk to about that.
[28:56] Jason McBride: and the market feels high, not just because it's at record highs.
[29:00] Jason McBride: When you look at the valuations and PE ratios, I mean, just about every ratio in the market is, you know, two to two and a half, in some cases three times, you know, higher than normal.
[29:16] Jason McBride: And I think this will be a period at some point.
[29:20] Jason McBride: I don't know what the catalyst will be, but when it does eventually come down, I think it could be pretty breathtaking, and I don't think it'll be one of those times when people will look back and say, you know, why didn't I take some gains when it seemed obvious that everything was so high and so precarious?
[29:41] Jason McBride: I think it's worth taking a look at, doing a little bit of a deep dive into your overall plan, and figure out if you need to take as much risk as you may be taking or if you could accomplish your goals with less risk and headache.
[29:59] Helen Mitchell: I think, Helen, you had something you wanted to say.
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[30:06] Helen Mitchell: I mean, I don't think a lot, you know, I'm not even talking about planning for the future.
[30:14] Jason McBride: Yeah, it's hard to plan for the future if you don't know where you're starting from.
[30:22] Jason McBride: I think, you know, starting with a good plan, showing where you are and where it might take you is very, very helpful.
[30:29] Jason McBride: And, you know, I know sometimes people are worried that they're going to come in and do a plan and get bad news.
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[30:58] Jason McBride: So I rambled a little too long and I'm sorry about that, kim, but uh, give us a call to make an appointment.
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[31:22] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll be talking with Cheryl Ackeson, and I'm really excited about it.
[31:26] Kim Monson: She has a book out, Slanted, How the News Media Taught Us to Love Censorship and Hate Journalism.
[31:32] Kim Monson: I tell you what, we're living that right now.
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[33:10] Kim Monson: She is a friend and thrilled to have on the line with me Cheryl Ackeson.
[33:14] Kim Monson: She is a CBS award- winning reporter.
[33:20] Kim Monson: the host of Full Measure on Sinclair Television.
[33:24] Kim Monson: She is the author of many books, but her most recent, Slanted, How the News Media Taught Us to Love Censorship and Hate Journalism, is a very important book right now.
[33:34] Kim Monson: Cheryl Atkinson, welcome to the show.
[33:39] Kim Monson: We'll have her back in just a minute here.
[33:44] Kim Monson: And yes, she has written a very important book.
[33:46] Kim Monson: And I know, Helen, you are excited about having this conversation because this censorship that's going on in America right now is just astounding.
[33:55] Helen Mitchell: Yeah, it just happened to me in an experience I had about two weeks ago.
[33:58] Helen Mitchell: I think all of you maybe have heard about it from University of Colorado.
[34:03] Kim Monson: Oh, and that was with Professor John Eastman.
[34:06] Kim Monson: And you were pretty shocked because, you know, it's important.
[34:11] Kim Monson: Higher education is important to you and the freedom of thought really important to you as well.
[34:16] Helen Mitchell: Yes and that's what their policy department espouses is having these professors come in and encourage that.
[34:27] Kim Monson: Okay, and so we have talked about that when Professor John Eastman was cancelled basically by first of all Chapman University out in California, and then he's the CU visiting professor of conservative thought and policy, and basically got cancelled here as well.
[34:45] Kim Monson: We have Cheryl Atkinson on the line.
[34:48] Kim Monson: Cheryl, I had everything set up that you are your new book and that you're the host of Full Measure.
[34:52] Kim Monson: But this book that you've written, Cheryl, is I can't believe where we are in America right now with the censorship.
[35:07] Sharyl Attkisson: Nobody in the general public was saying, come in and mediate my news and censor and curate my information.
[35:14] Sharyl Attkisson: And I believe the interests that are working to control the news and information online really worked hard with an organized campaign to make a demand for it, to make us think that we needed third parties to come in and curate our information for us so that they could do exactly as they're doing and control it.
[35:32] Kim Monson: Cheryl, as I was looking for quotes, I always do some quotes for the day.
[35:39] Kim Monson: I found a quote by General Wes Moreland, who was, I think he was, I think he was in the Nixon administration.
[35:47] Kim Monson: And he said that something along the line of censorship is necessary, because the public may not be able, I'll find the quote, but the public can't really process or the way I took it can't really process everything.
[36:00] Kim Monson: I thought, oh my gosh, I cannot believe that even back then we were having comments about censorship.
[36:07] Kim Monson: And really concerning to me, Cheryl.
[36:10] Sharyl Attkisson: Well, you know, there has always been an element of push me, pull you with us deciding in the news what stories do and don't get told.
[36:21] Sharyl Attkisson: But I think the likes to which we're seeing now, the open admission that we're simply banning views and people and studies and stories outright and kind of admitting it and acting as though we're doing it as a service, those who are censoring the information.
[36:39] Sharyl Attkisson: And then to see journalism groups and journalism colleges cheering on this trend in some cases and saying: this is a great thing to not only be censoring, but also inserting bias and opinion and hard news pieces.
[36:54] Sharyl Attkisson: It's really something for these propagandists to have been able to accomplish this in a short period of time.
[37:01] Kim Monson: Do you think more and more people are waking up to what is happening?
[37:07] Sharyl Attkisson: I mean, I would say there's a way to look at this as desperation.
[37:13] Sharyl Attkisson: I think the interests that have worked very hard to control the information landscape have found, time and again, there are too many people that are not listening.
[37:20] Sharyl Attkisson: And this started, I believe, in 2016 when these interests felt they had fairly well controlled the news landscape, and yet Donald Trump was elected.
[37:29] Sharyl Attkisson: How was he elected when pretty much every media outlet was telling people that he was dangerous and shouldn't be elected?
[37:35] Sharyl Attkisson: And that's what I think set off these interests who worked to control our information, wrote about that industry in this year.
[37:42] Sharyl Attkisson: That's when they set about to say, well, they blamed it on the Internet that people were still able to get information, whether it's connecting with Donald Trump or whatever they wanted online, even though maybe the news was pretty well controlled.
[37:55] Sharyl Attkisson: So these interests set out to say, for the next four years, we have to work to control the Internet, just as we've tried to control the news and make information not available.
[38:05] Sharyl Attkisson: Then they looked in the last election and saw that 70 million people still voted for Donald Trump, even more after they spent four years telling them, not telling people that he was uniquely dangerous.
[38:17] Sharyl Attkisson: So, again, I think they had to just, they feel they have to clamp down in a very obvious way because just not thinking in with tens of millions of Americans.
[38:27] Kim Monson: Cheryl speaking, you mentioned Donald Trump, And when I was looking at your website, You actually are just publishing some of the things that he is saying, And you are really non-partisan.
[38:42] Kim Monson: I look at you as a real journalist, Someone who is bringing news, And of course you do have opinion on things as well.
[38:51] Kim Monson: But I found that interesting that you were actually publishing some of his statements because they're not getting published other places.
[38:57] Kim Monson: What's your thought process on that?
[39:00] Sharyl Attkisson: Well, I just never imagined there would be a major newsmaker, probably one of the most well-known people in the world, who at least I couldn't even find information on him once he was banned from media and news.
[39:13] Sharyl Attkisson: So when I was looking just as a reporter to find statements or what he was doing, whatever was going on, I had a hard time doing it.
[39:27] Sharyl Attkisson: First, I couldn't get many of the mailings, but now I think I'm getting most of them.
[39:32] Sharyl Attkisson: And I thought, other people are looking for this information, too.
[39:38] Sharyl Attkisson: I'm trying to publish unreported and banned and censored information.
[39:46] Sharyl Attkisson: com, where I've got a list of people and ideas and things that are being improperly, in my view, censored, whether they're left or right or non-political, this is happening to a lot of people and entities and studies and ideas.
[40:01] Sharyl Attkisson: So when I can, I will put Donald Trump's censored or banned information just unedited on my website for people to see, as I do with a lot of information that I think certain powerful interests don't want people to get.
[40:18] Kim Monson: And Cheryl spelled S-H-A-R-Y-L-8 and then it's A-T-T-K-I-S-S-O-N.
[40:24] Kim Monson: Now, I'm looking at your website right now.
[40:26] Kim Monson: You said you are going to have a spot there for things that are being censored or banned.
[40:31] Kim Monson: I'm not seeing it right off the bat.
[40:34] Sharyl Attkisson: If you look at the top, if you look at the very top tab, there's a tab that says the censored.
[40:44] Sharyl Attkisson: And then I'm just listing, you know, it's not a comprehensive list, but I'm trying to, when I have time, add things and people to the list.
[40:50] Sharyl Attkisson: You can probably see a couple of things on there that look familiar in addition to Donald Trump.
[40:55] Kim Monson: Wow, this is amazing work that you're doing.
[40:57] Kim Monson: We're going to go to break here in just a moment.
[40:59] Kim Monson: In studio with me is one of my great sponsors, Helen Jean Mitchell.
[41:02] Kim Monson: And I know that you put together some thoughts regarding this whole censorship thing.
[41:06] Kim Monson: Was there, you know, anything in particular or that you, okay, then we'll continue on.
[41:13] Kim Monson: I had another question for you, though, Cheryl, before we go to break, and that is your lawsuit that you had, was it to the Department of Justice?
[41:25] Kim Monson: Now I can't remember, but where are you at on that?
[41:30] Sharyl Attkisson: I can't even get the foolproof forensic evidence that shows the government intrusion.
[41:36] Sharyl Attkisson: Can't even get to court because the Department of Justice is defending the guilty agents and keeps arguing successfully for dismissal, most recently because Rod Rosenstein, one of the ones we were suing formerly of Department of Justice, has immunity for these actions.
[41:57] Sharyl Attkisson: We're now suing the John Does, a couple of people who are named and the federal agents who are unnamed, but we can't know who they are until we get discovery.
[42:05] Sharyl Attkisson: But we can't get discovery, the courts say, until we know who they are.
[42:12] Sharyl Attkisson: Sort of like asking the victim of a murder to solve their own crime before they can get justice.
[42:19] Helen Mitchell: Yeah, do all the work so then I can say that I did it.
[42:22] Kim Monson: Okay, well, Cheryl, let's go to break.
[42:25] Kim Monson: But again, I recommend go to her website, and it's right there, censored.
[42:30] Kim Monson: You've got all kinds of important information.
[42:32] Kim Monson: And you're just really someone that is trying to present truth to people, Cheryl.
[42:38] Sharyl Attkisson: Yeah, I mean, I think that this is sort of the old-fashioned mission of a lot of journalists that is really changing.
[42:45] Sharyl Attkisson: You can even see journalists and journalists in colleges, to my shock, and journalism organizations, redefining journalism to be what I consider the opposite of what it is.
[42:56] Sharyl Attkisson: They're saying things such as, you know, it's good that neutrality and objectivity are being abandoned.
[43:02] Sharyl Attkisson: And I guess it's just the opposite of everything we're supposed to be about.
[43:07] Sharyl Attkisson: And they're trying to redefine it and make the public think that the mission is something that's sort of like 1984 doublespeak, doublespeak the opposite of what it is.
[43:19] Helen Mitchell: Yeah, it seems like the news, reporting the basic news of, you know, entertainment, sports, what's going, commerce running, you know, throughout the gamut of the city and the county and the country even, has now fallen, lost its luster in favor of spiced up version with an uncomfortable mixture of opinions in journalism.
[43:46] Sharyl Attkisson: And, you know, in a way that almost sounds innocent, like, well, they're just sort of looking for clicks and eyeballs.
[43:51] Sharyl Attkisson: But I actually think it's more organized and even deeper than that.
[43:55] Sharyl Attkisson: Yes, they're looking for the scandal and the sensationalism.
[43:58] Sharyl Attkisson: But behind that are organizations that are working very hard to make sure certain topics are reported a certain way and other topics are left completely off the table.
[44:10] Helen Mitchell: It seems like a new staff now even serves its own purposes of publishing editorials for each other and not on behalf of the audience.
[44:18] Helen Mitchell: And all these have proven to be a great revenue generator for them, which, of course, drives all this.
[44:25] Sharyl Attkisson: You know, I wrote about, I called it news reporting for each other and itself.
[44:28] Sharyl Attkisson: This is another fairly recent phenomenon that you see: journalists in papers like the Washington Post and the New York Times talking and reporting to each other and to other newsmakers, using each other to give little messages and political messages to one another, not telling us about the news.
[44:47] Sharyl Attkisson: That means very little in the scheme of things to most Americans.
[44:54] Helen Mitchell: Yeah, I mean, if you repeat something enough, it turns into a chant, almost a hypnotic drumbeat that lulls you into submission, almost as if you're in a trance of some sort.
[45:05] Helen Mitchell: And some reporters even have a sing-song melodic quality to their voice.
[45:12] Sharyl Attkisson: And I do think that, you know, there's an effort to plaster the information landscape with the same information so ubiquitously that people give up and just think this is a boring way.
[45:25] Sharyl Attkisson: They're an outlier if they think differently, when they're really not.
[45:30] Kim Monson: Well, and that's why, Cheryl, the work that you're doing, that's why what we do out here in Colorado, is to keep our independent voice out there, search for truth and search for clarity on these issues.
[45:40] Kim Monson: So one thing, so people don't feel alone, but also so that they can get their brains around these issues, so that they can talk with their friends and their family and their colleagues.
[45:52] Kim Monson: When we come back, let's talk just a little bit about Lester Holt and what he had to say about news reporting.
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[47:28] Kim Monson: We've got to get to the toll roads, I realize, with that song, Life in the Fast Lane.
[47:33] Kim Monson: We're talking about censorship with Cheryl Atkinson.
[47:35] Kim Monson: And just a couple of things before we get over to that, because you had recently reported on Full Measure on Sinclair Television about these toll roads.
[47:45] Kim Monson: but I was astounded Cheryl Atkinson when I saw that Lester Holt who had received the Edward R.
[47:55] Kim Monson: He is with NBC- made the comment that he thinks that fairness is overrated.
[48:01] Kim Monson: Now I see there's some other things within context, but just that term from a news person that fairness is overrated strikes fear in my heart on fair reporting, on freedom of the press.
[48:16] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Cheryl?
[48:21] Sharyl Attkisson: Murrow award and uttering those words and people in the room not wondering if they're on, you know, in an alternate universe?
[48:28] Sharyl Attkisson: But this is what I'm hearing from journalists and journalism groups has kind of been going around for the last few years, minimum.
[48:36] Sharyl Attkisson: And I don't know what to say about it, except I don't think Lester Holt is part of an organized effort to do this.
[48:45] Sharyl Attkisson: But if I didn't know better, I would say there is, because so many journalism organizations and professors and people are uttering the same words in the same language.
[48:53] Sharyl Attkisson: And I would never have imagined you could get legitimate journalists to, in a pretty short period of time, entirely rethink and redefine their mission as being the opposite of what it is.
[49:04] Sharyl Attkisson: And I've said, I've written before, it's kind of like if a medical school were teaching medical students that diet and exercise are overrated when, in fact, those are fundamental to your health.
[49:16] Sharyl Attkisson: I think fairness and objectivity are fundamental of basic good hard news reporting.
[49:21] Sharyl Attkisson: They're not something to be cast aside or to be, you know, excited about throwing away.
[49:30] Kim Monson: I do think that people are looking for alternative places for information.
[49:35] Kim Monson: What you're doing on full measure is really important.
[49:40] Kim Monson: And again, your website, CherylAtkinson.
[49:43] Kim Monson: But we have just a few minutes left, and one of your recent subjects was on these toll roads.
[49:50] Kim Monson: And when I was on city council was when I was starting to see these, they were calling them managed lanes or a variety of things, but it's like, wait a minute, we're paying gas tax.
[50:00] Kim Monson: that are supposed to go to roads and bridges.
[50:02] Kim Monson: But yet I was also looking at this, and they were peeling anywhere from 20%to 30% outof those gas taxes to go for things that weren't roads and bridges and that helped cars and mobility.
[50:13] Kim Monson: And then we were building highways but making people to pay, and it didn't seem right to me.
[50:21] Kim Monson: But what's your thoughts on this, Cheryl?
[50:34] Sharyl Attkisson: The more you need to use these lanes, the higher the price goes.
[50:48] Sharyl Attkisson: I will tell you that the companies that lobby to put these in, and this is how these happen, They say, you know, it provides a lot of money that they pay for highway improvements elsewhere in the state.
[51:00] Sharyl Attkisson: The state says it's better than raising taxes or doing nothing to make improvements.
[51:03] Sharyl Attkisson: But I will tell you, I think they're hugely unpopular, and yet they claim there's a satisfaction rate of like 95%.
[51:18] Sharyl Attkisson: And it turns out it started with an Australian company lobbying the state of Virginia.
[51:26] Sharyl Attkisson: But they come in, they make contributions to the state legislatures, you know, political campaign contributions, and they convince them through this process that this is a great idea.
[51:42] Sharyl Attkisson: At least most commuters see them to their benefit, although again the other side is the state and officials who agree to put these in claim that a lot more money goes into highway improvements overall because of these roads.
[51:54] Kim Monson: And just my, I was on city council for four years and I know what those narratives are out there, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that.
[52:04] Kim Monson: Many times you'll see people not using those lanes because they don't want to pay extra money.
[52:09] Kim Monson: And it seemed, and they, they, they put these lanes in under the guise of addressing congestion on the roads.
[52:16] Kim Monson: Well, it seems to me like if you had that extra lane that more people could use, that that would relieve congestion on the roads.
[52:25] Sharyl Attkisson: Right, and the companies argue, well, we built it for you for free, that you wouldn't have an extra lane you wouldn't have had yourself, and now we're collecting the tolls and they get to keep them, you know, like through the end of the century or something.
[52:38] Sharyl Attkisson: But, again, I always follow the money when something doesn't make sense to me.
[52:44] Sharyl Attkisson: People are telling me something's good for you and that people like it, when I don't see the same thing.
[52:47] Sharyl Attkisson: So I gave both sides of that issue the report on Full Measure.
[52:52] Sharyl Attkisson: See all of these stories, good old- fashioned reportinglike it used to be at fullmeasure.
[53:02] Kim Monson: Cheryl, in your research on this, had you done any research regarding how much money is actually being peeled out of the gas tax money being used for things other than roads and bridges?
[53:15] Kim Monson: Have you had a chance to look at that?
[53:20] Sharyl Attkisson: So many highway funds from the federal government I know, and so much gas tax money is given every year.
[53:29] Sharyl Attkisson: And yet we're seeing, like you said, more and more toll roads as if it's not enough to do the basic work that needs to be done on our highways.
[53:40] Kim Monson: Well, and I think that it is around 20 to 30 percent that is being peeled out.
[53:47] Kim Monson: And this has been happening over a number of years.
[53:51] Kim Monson: And some of that money or that money has been going to bike lanes and to multimodal, trying to get people.
[53:58] Kim Monson: And we're seeing this narrative out here in Colorado.
[54:00] Kim Monson: Legislators are saying, we want you out of your cars.
[54:04] Kim Monson: But freedom of mobility, Cheryl, is inherent in everyday people being able to thrive and prosper.
[54:09] Kim Monson: So quickly, Helen Mitchell, do you have any final thought?
[54:13] Kim Monson: I know you were just really excited to be on the show with Cheryl.
[54:18] Helen Mitchell: It's very interesting to hear all the perspectives of what's happening with the toll roads.
[54:24] Helen Mitchell: I was looking at, I was doing some research about that, too.
[54:28] Helen Mitchell: And the question is, you know, where does this money go?
[54:32] Kim Monson: Typically, so just exactly what Cheryl said is follow the money.
[54:37] Kim Monson: Cheryl Atkinson, what is your final thought that you'd like to leave with our listeners this morning?
[54:41] Sharyl Attkisson: I will hope people don't give up when they hear or see online.
[54:45] Sharyl Attkisson: Don't live in that box that we call the Internet and think that you're an outlier with your thoughts and views, that you should keep your mouth shut because somebody says you shouldn't think that way.
[54:56] Sharyl Attkisson: To the extent that that which we think and want to do is legal, we have a right to do it.
[55:02] Sharyl Attkisson: And the notion that we're self- censoring orbeing censored by others, I think stands to redefine this country in a way we don't like if we don't continue to speak out and understand that we are really not outliers when we want to defend free speech, free press, and so on.
[55:21] Kim Monson: Cheryl Atkinson, thank you so much for joining us.
[55:23] Kim Monson: And that website is CherylAtkinson.
[55:25] Kim Monson: Andthe show is Full Measure on Sinclair Television.
[55:30] Kim Monson: Mitchell, it's great to have you in studio.
[55:33] Kim Monson: And our quote for today is John Stuart Mill.
[55:35] Kim Monson: He said, to refuse a hearing to an opinion because they are sure that it is false is to assume that their certainty is the same thing as absolute certainty.
[55:46] Kim Monson: All silencing of discussion is an assumption of infallibility.
[55:48] Kim Monson: So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[56:19] Outro Voice: You are not alone, my friends.
[56:23] Outro Voice: God bless you, and God bless America.
[56:20] Outro Voice: Lightning wandering out into this great unknown, and I don't want no one to cry, but tell them if I don't survive.
[56:36] Outro Voice: don't survive