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[01:11] Kim Monson: We've got something very special today because uh, researcher patty kergan is in studio.
[01:16] Producer Steve: Yeah, no, not just uh, something on a screen that patty says, but patty herself.
[01:27] Patti Kurgan: Thank you for having me and letting me participate in this beautiful view that God made.
[01:33] Kim Monson: We are on a 12th floor looking out to the west and the good Lord is definitely showing off.
[01:42] Kim Monson: So the second segment, there's something that you hear.
[01:45] Kim Monson: So Kim, people are not talking about this danger that of what happened out on the east coast regarding this cyber attack.
[01:54] Kim Monson: And so And so we'll talk about that.
[01:56] Patti Kurgan: It needs to be discussed in our energy policy.
[02:00] Kim Monson: And third and fourth segment, you've been going through this transportation bill, and it is very, very naughty.
[02:11] Kim Monson: And that's like a lot longer than the Constitution of the United States.
[02:20] Patti Kurgan: But, you know, the bills are only supposed to be single subject.
[02:24] Patti Kurgan: So how does that pass the single subject test?
[02:30] Producer Steve: Don't you love the way it's directly proportional?
[02:33] Producer Steve: The thicker the package, the worse the bill.
[02:37] Kim Monson: And to your point, new bureaucracies, new paid, unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats in these things.
[02:47] Kim Monson: But we'll talk about that in the third and fourth segment.
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[03:28] Kim Monson: Steve, we talked about it yesterday, but America's veteran stories, each and every story is so, they're all individual.
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[03:42] Kim Monson: m., Manor Kennedy, he was a Marine at the Chosin Reservoir, which is just a terrible Marine battle in the Korean War.
[03:53] Producer Steve: Well, yeah, this is kind of a departure from the series we've been doing on Vietnam.
[04:00] Producer Steve: Obviously, you know, Korea happened before then.
[04:03] Producer Steve: But I wonder if it didn't set the tone for where we were going in our military activities around the world.
[04:11] Producer Steve: And certainly not a success story.
[04:15] Producer Steve: And again, these guys were.
[04:16] Producer Steve: They were aware of what was happening on the other side of the dmz.
[04:20] Producer Steve: Who was really there in terms of it wasn't just north koreans, it was, you know, the chinese as well well, and the chosen reservoir.
[04:28] Kim Monson: There there are many marine battles that are very famous, but there's bella wood in world war one and iwo jima in world war ii and the Chosin Reservoir in the Korean War.
[04:39] Kim Monson: And the temperatures were 30 to 40 below.
[04:43] Kim Monson: And they were in this battle for almost 30 days.
[04:47] Kim Monson: And it was 120,000 Chinese and 15,000 U.
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[06:11] Kim Monson: Patty, it's great to have you in studio.
[06:14] Kim Monson: We're going to be going through some of these headlines, this terrible transportation bill.
[06:18] Kim Monson: We'll talk with Karen Levine a little bit later, as well as Jason McBride.
[06:25] Kim Monson: Eliot was a poet, essayist, essayist?
[06:36] Kim Monson: Anyway, he writes essays, is what he did.
[06:38] Kim Monson: That was another thing that he did.
[06:40] Kim Monson: He was a publisher, playwright, literary critic, and editor.
[06:44] Kim Monson: He's considered one of the 20th centuries major poets.
[06:48] Kim Monson: He is a central figure in the English language.
[06:53] Kim Monson: He was born in 1888 and he died in 1965.
[06:57] Kim Monson: And he said this, he said, the tendency of liberals is to create bodies of men and women of all classes, detached from tradition, alienated from religion, and susceptible to mass suggestion or mob rule.
[07:13] Kim Monson: And a mob will be no less a mob if it is well-fed, well-clothed, well-housed, and well-disciplined.
[07:23] Kim Monson: We sometimes, we think the things that we're facing are new.
[07:30] Kim Monson: And I find that pretty amazing, Steve.
[07:32] Producer Steve: Well, as I said in our pre-call, what you just said, we think that this modern situation, this contemporary situation we find ourselves in is just that it's it's contemporary but clearly uh by t.
[07:47] Producer Steve: S elliott's thoughts here.
[07:50] Kim Monson: Uh, you know, the liberalism has been a pain in the neck for a long time, and and it is each generation and we, we talk about this.
[07:58] Kim Monson: One of our quotes is that it's never compassionate to take other people's rights, their property, their livelihoods, whether with it's with a weapon, which that's how they used to do it.
[08:08] Kim Monson: Old days, patty, they'd ride in with weapons and they'd take your stuff.
[08:11] Kim Monson: Now they ride in with policy and excessive taxation and fear and they take our stuff.
[08:17] Kim Monson: Yep, exactly, and that's not compassionate to do that.
[08:22] Patti Kurgan: So a lot of people are getting hurt, a lot.
[08:26] Producer Steve: I throw in my two cents.
[08:27] Producer Steve: You know, okay, make fun of my age, that's fine.
[08:30] Producer Steve: And you know, the big one was earlier this not today, you didn't, but the big one was earlier this year, the six and the five, and you'd like to think that you've done a good job over the last 40 years.
[08:43] Producer Steve: Planning for this time of life.
[08:46] Producer Steve: Right, and your different resources that are out there, but all of it is not so clear, not so sure.
[08:50] Kim Monson: Well, and the inflation numbers came out.
[09:09] Kim Monson: And when we talked with Jason McBride about inflation, there are things that, I mean, these consumer prices go up, but the question is why?
[09:20] Kim Monson: And a lot A lot of it is because of policy and taxation.
[09:24] Kim Monson: And those are things that we could actually fix.
[09:28] Kim Monson: And I don't see a whole big effort on trying to do that from the Harris- Bidenadministration, Patty.
[09:35] Patti Kurgan: No, it's exactly the opposite, even here in the state.
[09:38] Patti Kurgan: With this new transportation bill, there's all sorts of new fees.
[09:41] Patti Kurgan: A lot of it will go towards the trucks that carry all the goods that end up in our house.
[09:48] Kim Monson: So they have to pay more, we'll have to pay more.
[09:54] Kim Monson: And that's one of the things, Patty, is people think that, oh, they don't take those costs because they're greedy.
[10:03] Kim Monson: If they don't pass those costs on, they go out of business.
[10:06] Kim Monson: If they go out of business, you don't have anybody that are delivering these goods and services.
[10:12] Patti Kurgan: So if you thought it was high before, just wait until you only have one or two players in the game.
[10:18] Kim Monson: Steve, did you want to comment on that?
[10:21] Producer Steve: No, you laid it out there.
[10:25] Producer Steve: That's exactly the issue.
[10:28] Producer Steve: And only one thing I would say, hopefully everyone's picked up on your little snarkyism there, the Harris- Bidenadministration.
[10:33] Producer Steve: Actually, there's a third entity, according to Fox News.
[10:36] Producer Steve: It's now the Harris- BidenRice.
[10:39] Producer Steve: She's being dubbed, at least by Fox News, as the shadow president.
[10:44] Producer Steve: Susan Rice, huh?
[10:47] Producer Steve: Interesting.
[10:47] Producer Steve: Another holdover from another day, but we won't talk about that.
[10:52] Kim Monson: Boy, and one of the things they want to do is they want to get you out of your cars.
[10:57] Kim Monson: Klaus Schlab from the World Economic Forum, he said one of their goals is that we will own nothing by 2030.
[11:08] Kim Monson: There will be a carbon tax, and we see this right here in Colorado, Patty, with this transportation bill.
[11:15] Kim Monson: and they want to get people out of their cars.
[11:18] Kim Monson: They want you to be riding around on public transportation or bicycles because it limits what you can do.
[11:25] Kim Monson: And, Steve, when I was coming around the corner this morning, I saw one of those big accordion buses.
[11:35] Producer Steve: One, the driver?
[11:39] Producer Steve: Well, and I see the 4 o'clock, well,at least I, whatever the line is, at 225 and 25, I inevitably run into a southbound train, a light rail train, and it's tough to kind of watch the road, but watch the train.
[11:56] Producer Steve: There can't be more than two people, and it's three cars long.
[11:58] Kim Monson: And think about the carbon footprint on that.
[12:01] Kim Monson: Just think about the cost of what we are paying to make that happen.
[12:07] Kim Monson: And I was just thinking about, and we have Republicans, we have big government Republicans that are behind this transportation bill.
[12:19] Patti Kurgan: And then not only do we have those who are participating in the approval, we have a lot who we think don't approve of it, but they're not speaking up.
[12:32] Patti Kurgan: And that was one of the questions last night.
[12:41] Patti Kurgan: We have to be on the front line and let people know that we haven't fallen asleep.
[12:51] Kim Monson: And as we're looking, 2022 is right around the corner.
[12:53] Kim Monson: And we need to be recruiting and training candidates that just because they have an R behind their name, because I learned this when I was on city council, the mayor of Lone Tree at that time and the mayor of Lone Tree at this time, they have R's behind their names right now, but they really were pushing progressive policies.
[13:10] Kim Monson: And in fact, the Southeast Light Rail Extension, they said that it was going to be$ 206 million.
[13:16] Kim Monson: As I was looking at what the bids were coming in, it was$ 256 million.
[13:20] Kim Monson: And I'm like, why doesn't this match up?
[13:24] Kim Monson: And it was kind of smoke and mirrors.
[13:26] Kim Monson: But just because people have an R behind their name does not mean that they believe in these conservative principles that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
[13:36] Kim Monson: And then how that plays out with the founders is you have limited government.
[13:43] Kim Monson: And so we are looking for people that want to conserve, hence the word conservative, wants to conserve those principles.
[13:49] Kim Monson: And I don't know who can't get behind this idea that all men are created equal with these rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
[13:55] Producer Steve: You keep covering the bases and then you know you already hit the home run and then ask me: do I want to?
[14:02] Producer Steve: You know, be the cleanup hitter?
[14:03] Kim Monson: No sorry, okay, uh, before you know what, let's go to break and then when we come back, uh, one of the top articles that patty has on here is from the gazette and the el paso county.
[14:17] Kim Monson: Uh, that is aiming at creating this front range rail district.
[14:24] Kim Monson: Honest to pete, if you have people, if you have empty trains running up and down the corridor here in Metro Denver.
[14:29] Kim Monson: Why on earth do we think that we want to then have empty trains, that we're going to spend billions of dollars on running up and down the front range?
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[16:19] Kim Monson: And I did not mention our Candid COVID Conversations.
[16:26] Kim Monson: It is a salon series, Candid COVID Conversations.
[16:30] Kim Monson: Councilwoman Ramey Johnson from Lakewood said we need to have some honest conversations about this.
[16:40] Kim Monson: who will be talking about the medical aspects of COVID, the Wuhan virus, the symptoms, the treatments, the vaccine, all those kinds of things.
[16:52] Kim Monson: Matt Durkin, who ran for Jefferson County DA, will be talking about, I'm calling it COVID crime.
[16:59] Kim Monson: But Patty, the violent crime in Denver is up significantly, partly because of COVID and partly because of the terrible policies.
[17:14] Patti Kurgan: And I know some people who live on the west side in Bradbury.
[17:18] Patti Kurgan: And they were telling me that car break-ins now is very common.
[17:25] Kim Monson: Well, and think how, I mean, most people probably have maybe$ 1,000 deductible.
[17:31] Kim Monson: So somebody comes in and breaks into your car, you're out at least$ 1,000 plus whatever is stolen.
[17:38] Kim Monson: And then also the time to get your car repaired.
[17:41] Kim Monson: Safe communities are something that's really important for people to go after their hopes and dreams.
[17:49] Kim Monson: So Matt will be talking about crime.
[17:51] Kim Monson: Priscilla Ron and she was just elected the new vice chair of the Colorado GOP.
[17:55] Kim Monson: She is an educator, a former principal, and we'll talk about the education of our kids because I'm concerned our kids are falling behind, Patty.
[18:04] Kim Monson: And then Sue Kinfield will be talking about our mental well-being, and I've talked to a number of parents that have been concerned about their children or their children's friends, and so it's a really important event.
[18:17] Kim Monson: The tickets are$ 5 plus a$ 1 processing fee, or as Karen Levine said last night, there's$ 6 total.
[18:26] Kim Monson: And that is next Thursday, 6 to 8pm.
[18:29] Kim Monson: And again, the tickets will be on sale a little bit later today.
[18:34] Kim Monson: Let's, Patty, you said hardly anybody, either national or locally is talking about the cyber attack on the Colonial Pipeline.
[18:45] Kim Monson: You've been really delving into it.
[18:49] Patti Kurgan: Well, within the last day or two, people are finally starting to pay attention.
[18:53] Patti Kurgan: So the Colonial Pipeline got hit with the ransomware.
[18:58] Patti Kurgan: We have to be in tune now with what's going on.
[19:01] Patti Kurgan: You know, 10, 15 years ago, people were worried about their credit reports getting access, which has all your data, and they can get into your bank accounts, take money, whatever.
[19:12] Patti Kurgan: The big money, the millions, is in the ransomware.
[19:16] Patti Kurgan: it supplies 45%of the gasoline on the eastern seaboard.
[19:21] Patti Kurgan: And essentially, it's been closing a lot of gas stations and restricting access to fuel.
[19:29] Patti Kurgan: What I did was, after hearing some of the reports come out on Tuesday, I wanted to know how bad it was.
[19:39] Patti Kurgan: So I just want to put aside what's been said on TV.
[19:43] Patti Kurgan: and I talked to, it's a selection of four or five people.
[19:47] Patti Kurgan: One was in the panhandle of Florida, another one's the Tampa coast.
[19:57] Patti Kurgan: And I guess Atlanta right now, as of yesterday, it was reported.
[20:03] Patti Kurgan: I think it was like 60 odd percent of the stations were closed.
[20:08] Patti Kurgan: So I was talking to people, and everybody that I talked to so far has said that they haven't had a problem getting gas.
[20:13] Patti Kurgan: They are waiting in lines, but the fuel is there.
[20:18] Patti Kurgan: The gas stations that they closed, surprisingly not, was the little guy.
[20:23] Patti Kurgan: Those are the ones, but the big names that we all recognize, those gas stations were open and the fuel was there.
[20:30] Patti Kurgan: So once again, the little guys are the ones that get really hurt on these things.
[20:34] Patti Kurgan: But just going over this again, the problem is with the ransomware and the cyber attacks that are happening and our administration's reaction to it.
[20:50] Patti Kurgan: You mean the Harris- Biden-Riceadministration?
[20:54] Patti Kurgan: So, you know, there's pundits going across the board giving their takes.
[20:59] Patti Kurgan: And some people are going straight to Russia.
[21:02] Patti Kurgan: It is a group that's been identified as the dark side that is based in Russia.
[21:07] Patti Kurgan: Russia is saying, well, they're here, but they're not associated with us.
[21:10] Patti Kurgan: But it begs the question, how come only in the U.
[21:17] Patti Kurgan: And you take what's going on here and then you look at the Middle East and what's going on over there.
[21:26] Patti Kurgan: And there's a lot of disruption there between Hamas and Israel.
[21:33] Patti Kurgan: Some people really believe this is a test on the Biden administration, and how forceful will they be?
[21:37] Patti Kurgan: And as we all know, they haven't been forceful at all.
[21:43] Patti Kurgan: Biden, one of Biden's spokespeople on Tuesday was talking about, well, colonial pipeline, they're a private company, so we're letting them handle it.
[21:55] Patti Kurgan: I'm like, government is always intervening in businesses.
[21:58] Patti Kurgan: Why now are they going to do a hands- offkind of approach?
[22:01] Kim Monson: Well, and Patty, when we were talking about that yesterday, because you and I really do prefer that governments stay out of things, but affordable, reliable, efficient, and abundant energy.
[22:11] Kim Monson: We're seeing this with the big freeze down in Texas, that energy, people being able to power their lives is so important.
[22:21] Kim Monson: And so it does seem like government should step in if we have a cyber attack from someplace out of our country.
[22:28] Kim Monson: They certainly were so concerned when they had the narrative that Russia had interfered in our elections with the Trump administration that, hey, they were all over it, right?
[22:40] Patti Kurgan: And it goes back to what you're saying, energy independence.
[22:43] Patti Kurgan: That was one of the proudest things that we could really stand on.
[22:50] Patti Kurgan: And what was one of the first things Biden did when he came into office?
[22:54] Patti Kurgan: After he stood in the faces of people in Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania, and say, I support fracking, I'm not going to close you down.
[23:06] Patti Kurgan: So some of this begs the question again, the second question is, is this by design?
[23:11] Patti Kurgan: We all know they want to get us out of our cars.
[23:14] Patti Kurgan: They want to get us into these multifamily units.
[23:22] Kim Monson: Maybe we'd say it's curious, isn't it?
[23:27] Kim Monson: There's a lot of curious things going on right now, Patty.
[23:30] Kim Monson: There's some testing of the water, shall we say.
[23:33] Kim Monson: Well, and what about our electric grid?
[23:38] Patti Kurgan: Not just the electric grid, but our water supply.
[23:41] Patti Kurgan: You know, if ransomware gets into that, we're really doomed.
[23:47] Patti Kurgan: I mean, if they hit us during a snowstorm, let's say in Chicago, you'll have people freezing.
[23:57] Patti Kurgan: And remember if they hit the electrical grid it's like some people like we'll have natural gas.
[24:02] Patti Kurgan: Well still, there's electricity that's associated with the delivery of the natural gas.
[24:07] Patti Kurgan: It's not like you can get in your car because the gas pumps again, they distribute the fuel into your tank with the help of electricity.
[24:16] Patti Kurgan: There's a lot of components and then even when you do restrict your oil, we We have remember all the petrochemical products that we have, including our.
[24:34] Kim Monson: Your phone, your eyeglasses, your clothes.
[24:38] Patti Kurgan: Your ski boots, your ski poles, your ski jacket, everything.
[24:43] Patti Kurgan: So when they're talking about getting rid of the oil and gas industry, it's like, what are you thinking?
[24:49] Patti Kurgan: Because there's so many products that people use and take for granted.
[24:55] Kim Monson: I was just thinking about it, Patty.
[24:57] Kim Monson: Steve and I had mentioned that we have these empty trains and buses.
[25:02] Kim Monson: And quite frankly, like this transportation bill, if it's so popular, if people really want to be traveling on those things, why aren't the people that are supporting that traveling on them now?
[25:15] Kim Monson: Actually, and if they're so concerned, first of all, they say they're so concerned about the environment and that's why they want to shut down oil and gas or, you know, want us to be riding around on trains and buses.
[25:34] Kim Monson: And that probably, quote, unquote, would change the footprint, right?
[25:42] Kim Monson: You know, you have this light rail.
[25:46] Patti Kurgan: So the fact of the matter is it doesn't get people to where they need to go.
[25:49] Patti Kurgan: And the people who they want to help the most, they get stopped at the light rail station.
[25:58] Patti Kurgan: So their job opportunities are limited within a couple of blocks of wherever that light rail stops or the bus stops.
[26:06] Kim Monson: And so going back to this cyber attack on the Colonial Pipeline, and it looks like they're getting things worked out.
[26:14] Kim Monson: But I think the real underlying concern that you have is the fact that this administration is not recognizing the danger that this actually poses for everyday people.
[26:26] Kim Monson: And again, what that might an attack on our other critical services like the electric grid, our water supply, what that would do again for everyday people.
[26:35] Kim Monson: And do you think people are waking up on that?
[26:39] Kim Monson: You've talked to five different people out there.
[26:41] Kim Monson: Are they kind of waking up to what's happening out there?
[26:45] Patti Kurgan: And again, it goes back to what we were talking earlier.
[26:54] Patti Kurgan: And even when we're talking about the electrical grid and the water supply and the pipelines, we're talking infrastructure.
[27:02] Patti Kurgan: So it goes back to Biden's infrastructure plan.
[27:05] Patti Kurgan: It has to be true infrastructure and the security of the infrastructure.
[27:14] Kim Monson: And that is not what that bill is about at all.
[27:17] Patti Kurgan: And it's interesting because yesterday the four top players in the House and the Senate met with Biden and Harris.
[27:23] Patti Kurgan: And I really didn't see any news stories come out about what was spoken.
[27:31] Kim Monson: We are seeing two real examples of leadership and people that say that Donald, I didn't like what Donald Trump said.
[27:43] Kim Monson: And I think people are saying I was doing a lot better under the Trump administration than I am right now.
[27:50] Kim Monson: But let's jump over here to Jason McBride.
[27:52] Kim Monson: He's a senior VP with Presidential Wealth Management and I had a busy day yesterday, Jason McBride, so I did not see what happened with the market.
[28:01] Jason McBride: Well, it was a pretty rough day in the market yesterday, Kim, and you know, it's funny you mentioned Donald Trump.
[28:08] Jason McBride: Can you imagine what the media would be doing with this cyber attack and this pipeline shutdown and the gas shortages out in the east?
[28:20] Jason McBride: If Trump were still in office, they would have the entire country terrified that we were about to have no energy, no water, no electricity.
[28:29] Jason McBride: Somehow they were also going to ransom and shut off our oxygen.
[28:34] Jason McBride: And it's also it would all be Trump's fault, right?
[28:37] Kim Monson: Unfortunately, I think you're true.
[28:41] Kim Monson: But actually, you're not hearing much about it.
[28:44] Kim Monson: Patty said, finally, they're starting to talk about it.
[28:47] Kim Monson: But we really hadn't seen the news headlines like what you said.
[28:52] Kim Monson: We would probably see if Trump was still in office.
[28:54] Jason McBride: Well, the markets had a pretty rough time yesterday, Kim.
[29:01] Jason McBride: The CPI, or the number that measures consumer price indexes or consumer prices came in higher than expected, and that reignited inflation fears.
[29:13] Jason McBride: I think also, again, this pipeline shutdown and people's nervousness as to what else could happen, combining that with the inflation fears caused the markets to have a pretty tough, tough day.
[29:32] Jason McBride: Although it's only about 2 percent, it still looks big on the headlines when it's 600 points.
[29:45] Jason McBride: And NASDAQ was already in a little bit of trouble before this happened.
[29:53] Jason McBride: The Dow and the S& Pwere looking stronger before, you know, having a sudden reversal a couple of days ago off of all- timehighs and then falling down.
[30:05] Jason McBride: So we have had five or six distribution days, which are days of selling with heavy volume.
[30:11] Jason McBride: So we do have the big boys in there to some degree.
[30:15] Jason McBride: So it's probably a good time to be cautious, to really look at your holdings.
[30:20] Jason McBride: If you got something that hasn't been acting well since you bought it, maybe it's a good time to cut it loose.
[30:27] Jason McBride: may be a good time to take a little bit of profit and just raise a little bit of cash just in case this might get worse, Kim.
[30:37] Kim Monson: Well, and I would recommend that people sit down with you, Jason.
[30:40] Kim Monson: We talk about it all the time, risk tolerance.
[30:45] Kim Monson: And even though you see a headline that the market was down 2% yesterday,it still has gone up significantly.
[30:57] Kim Monson: You can make some changes on things.
[31:00] Kim Monson: How can people sit down with you, Jason McBride, to talk about this?
[31:04] Jason McBride: Well, the best way is just give us a call at 303- 694- 1600.
[31:13] Jason McBride: Kim,we're open for business, face- to- face,andwe'd love to meet you.
[31:20] Kim Monson: And again, that number is 303- 694- 1600.
[31:23] Kim Monson: Jason,we will talk to you tomorrow.
[31:28] Kim Monson: We're going to go to break when we come back.
[31:34] Kim Monson: We're going to go through this terrible transportation bill that is down here at the Colorado State Legislature.
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[33:03] Kim Monson: Thank you to each and every one of you who contribute to keep our independent voice on the air and thrilled to have in studio with us our researcher, and that is patty kirgan, and she has been going through this senate bill 21: 260, which is the big transportation bill.
[33:21] Kim Monson: And they say there's bipartisan support on it.
[33:24] Kim Monson: Kevin Priola, Senator Kevin Priola, has his name on it.
[33:30] Kim Monson: But typically he's the Lone Ranger, if you will, since we're doing Western music.
[33:33] Kim Monson: He's the Lone Ranger on a lot of these very, very bad pieces of legislation.
[33:37] Kim Monson: But there are Republicans that are in support of this.
[33:41] Kim Monson: Mike Kopp over at Colorado Concern is in support of this.
[33:46] Kim Monson: He ran for governor a few years ago on the Republican ticket.
[33:50] Kim Monson: I'm very frustrated that we have Republicans.
[33:53] Kim Monson: John Southers, who's the mayor down in Colorado Springs, says he supports this.
[33:57] Kim Monson: Patty, it's a very bad bill, but take us through it.
[34:01] Kim Monson: It's oh, and I need to say the other name, sorry, uh, senator finberg and winter and priola on the senate side and on the house, garnett and gray.
[34:07] Kim Monson: So all of them are democrats except priola.
[34:10] Patti Kurgan: Correct, and this is supposed to be a quote.
[34:15] Patti Kurgan: Transportation bill, but as you read through it, it's a 197 pages in its original form.
[34:35] Patti Kurgan: And what we've all been wanting is our roads and bridges to be fixed.
[34:39] Patti Kurgan: That's really the main drive right here and the desire for people.
[34:45] Kim Monson: And Patty, they hold us hostage on that.
[34:48] Kim Monson: They say that they will have different bills or different rules, regulations that is going to help our roads and our bridges, which that is so important for people to be able to go where they want to when they want to.
[35:01] Kim Monson: But then they take the money and they use it for something else.
[35:04] Patti Kurgan: Well, even in this bill, it's, you know, the whole drive force is, no pun intended, is the roads and bridges.
[35:11] Patti Kurgan: And when you look at it, though, the revenue that's generated from the bill, only 20%of it will go towards roads and bridges in the next 11 years.
[35:23] Patti Kurgan: So the bill is looking at a generation of$ 5.
[35:31] Patti Kurgan: The general fund portion that they're putting into the roads and bridges is$ 660 million, and the rest they're hoping will come from stimulus funds.
[35:41] Patti Kurgan: On Tuesday afternoon, the Biden administration notified the states as to how much money they'll be getting from the American Rescue Plan in Colorado right now, according to the Colorado Sun, is going to get approximately$ 4 billion.
[36:01] Patti Kurgan: And some people would say, to me, that's even questionable with the stimulus funds, how that's all being distributed.
[36:07] Patti Kurgan: But the bad news is, they have a list of what you can spend the money on, and transportation is not in there.
[36:15] Patti Kurgan: So if the state legislators, who are all behind this bill, as well as the other groups out there, and they're expecting it to come from the federal stimulus money, according to Biden's administration, you can't use it for bridges.
[36:31] Patti Kurgan: So half the money's gone from from the get- go fromthe start.
[36:36] Patti Kurgan: So yeah, the Colorado Sun did report that, like the senator, majority leader Fenberg, he is trying to manipulate and massage the number so that it would somehow work into the stimulus funding.
[36:49] Patti Kurgan: They're always manipulating, massaging and getting the numbers to where they wanted instead of just putting the cards on the table and being truthful to us.
[37:02] Patti Kurgan: So this is one of the big funding, another big funding source on this is fees, right?
[37:09] Patti Kurgan: So and that's still money out of your pocket, right?
[37:12] Patti Kurgan: And as you say, it's just, it's veiled as a fee, but it truly is a tax.
[37:17] Patti Kurgan: And so a lot of people may or may not remember that the voters voted on Proposition 117 last year.
[37:24] Patti Kurgan: And Michael Fields and his group did a great job in getting it out.
[37:29] Patti Kurgan: And Kim, you know I called you up the next day.
[37:33] Patti Kurgan: And I said, I think it's great that it passed.
[37:35] Patti Kurgan: And just to clarify, what this proposition stated was that if within five years,$ 100 million in revenue is generated, then it must go to the vote of the people to approve.
[37:50] Kim Monson: Well, and we'll explain it just a little bit more.
[37:53] Kim Monson: They create these enterprise zones, and they fund these enterprise zones with fees.
[37:58] Kim Monson: And so 117 said that if you generate more than$ 100 million over five years in this enterprise zone with fees, you just have to ask the people.
[38:09] Kim Monson: You called me up the next day, and you said, this is great.
[38:12] Kim Monson: But what they're going to do is they're going to carve this out so that they keep that revenue cap underneath 100 million dollars.
[38:20] Patti Kurgan: If they have to have five, seven, ten different enterprises, that's what they'll do to get what they want.
[38:26] Patti Kurgan: And this bill has four new enterprises and the fifth one.
[38:30] Patti Kurgan: They changed the name and here we are, and they specifically made it so that we don't have to vote on it.
[38:39] Patti Kurgan: And what's really interesting in the fiscal note- and I encourage everybody to go- I know it's 197 pages, so if you don't want to read the whole bill, go to the fiscal note.
[38:56] Patti Kurgan: It's called the Sustainability of the Transportation System.
[38:58] Patti Kurgan: And in the, right, so you'll see a brief summary and then right below it, it will have the full bill context.
[39:08] Patti Kurgan: And I found, though, that it was really interesting when they're talking about the fees in the fiscal note.
[39:13] Patti Kurgan: This is word for word, quote, should fee revenue to any new enterprise approach$ 100 million, it is assumed that the enterprise board will set fees so as not to exceed this amount.
[39:29] Patti Kurgan: I believe it because they don't care about us.
[39:33] Patti Kurgan: They have their own agenda and they're going to do whatever it takes.
[39:46] Kim Monson: I get no respect from these people.
[39:54] Kim Monson: I mean, they're going to institute fees at the gas pump.
[39:57] Kim Monson: And Patty, that hurts the people the most on trying to move up the economic ladder, to have their own car, to be able to go where they want to, when they want to, as you mentioned, instead of their employment just being up and down the light rail corridor, so that they could have the opportunity for different jobs.
[40:15] Kim Monson: And these fees are going to make it more expensive, plus the policies that they're putting in place to try to shut down the oil and gas industry.
[40:25] Kim Monson: It's, Like you said, they don't care, right?
[40:28] Patti Kurgan: Well, they have fees on gasoline, and that will be at the pump.
[40:33] Patti Kurgan: They'll have a diesel fuel fee at the pump.
[40:35] Patti Kurgan: And with the diesel fuel, you're really looking at your truckers.
[40:39] Patti Kurgan: And what happens there is the cost of transporting goods from manufacturer to the store to the home, it's going to go up.
[40:48] Patti Kurgan: So if the cost for the transportation company is going up, they're just going to go ahead and feed that to their end user.
[40:55] Patti Kurgan: and then the end user will feed it to their end user, the consumer.
[41:02] Patti Kurgan: These are regressive, and it's going to hurt the ones that can not afford it the most.
[41:08] Producer Steve: Sure.
[41:08] Producer Steve: You guys used the phrase a couple times now, a fee at the pump.
[41:14] Producer Steve: You're talking about beyond the$ 0.
[41:16] Producer Steve: 22 agallon that we're already paying.
[41:18] Producer Steve: This is on top of that.
[41:19] Producer Steve: Correct.
[41:19] Producer Steve: All right.
[41:21] Producer Steve: So the 22 cents for the state, 18 cents for the Fed, you know, for gas itself, we're already paying 40 cents a gallon in taxes.
[41:28] Producer Steve: And now these are fees.
[41:30] Producer Steve: Right.
[41:31] Producer Steve: Correct.
[41:32] Producer Steve: I love it.
[41:33] Producer Steve: Okay.
[41:36] Kim Monson: We're going to go to break here in just a minute, but Karen Levine is on the line with us.
[41:40] Kim Monson: She is an award- winning realtorwith REMAX Alliance, and she has been in meetings for the last couple of weeks.
[41:45] Kim Monson: regarding the National Association and Board of Realtors.
[41:51] Kim Monson: She serves on that board and has been in a lot of meetings.
[41:55] Kim Monson: She is just a real, just really a lion, I would say, as far as fighting for private property rights.
[42:04] Karen Levine: Well, it's been an interesting week and a half, and today we'll hear about the residential economic trends of what's happening nationwide.
[42:14] Karen Levine: by our chief economist, Lawrence Yoon, and he's always exciting to hear his data is always right on.
[42:24] Karen Levine: But I'm laughing because this morning I was listening to an ad on the TV from American Financing and it was promoting the homeowner who was going to go buy a new home and get a big yard.
[42:39] Karen Levine: And all our conversations at the National Association of Realtors these past few weeks have been about urbanization and getting us out of our cars and taking away our yards.
[42:52] Karen Levine: At the Board of Realtors, they're having that talk.
[42:57] Karen Levine: And that's because that's all the policies that are coming out of Washington.
[43:03] Karen Levine: And right now, I feel like I basically have a fire hose on me of all the information and trying to navigate through that information to be able to then speak intelligently to our board of directors and ask, we have a housing shortage nationwide, and yes, density can help with that housing shortage, but what do the people want?
[43:32] Karen Levine: What does the middle class want when it comes to housing?
[43:36] Karen Levine: and we've heard through the COVID journey that they want to move away from the cities.
[43:48] Kim Monson: Well, and it is public policy that these pundits and politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties want everyday people to move, as you said, to urbanization of living in four- and five-story apartment buildings,living along a light rail line, and being happy about it.
[44:04] Kim Monson: But Karen, you know that actually Americans do want the opportunity to have that yard, their own park, if you will.
[44:13] Kim Monson: And this policy, and I was astonished when I was on city council that we were seeing policy.
[44:18] Kim Monson: We were seeing mayors and city council people that were being influenced to that policy instead of standing strong for free and fair markets.
[44:28] Kim Monson: Let people make their decisions instead of policy.
[44:32] Kim Monson: So I know that you are a voice there that it's difficult because there's this drumbeat that people think that, yeah, that people really want this urbanization.
[44:57] Karen Levine: But what you're seeing is people do want their own home.
[45:07] Karen Levine: And with Patty's conversation regarding this transportation bill and Steve asking the question about the fee being added to gasoline, that's just one more way to discourage us to have what our desires are.
[45:01] Karen Levine: So you raise the cost, which you say, well, then I've got to be closer to work or I have to be accessible by bicycle, walking, or light rail.
[45:16] Karen Levine: And it all sounds great when you talk about, which is a conversation we had this week, the 15- minute neighborhood, whichis being accessible to all things in 15 minutes.
[45:29] Karen Levine: That sounds great, but there's a cost to achieve that.
[45:32] Kim Monson: Well, and what if somebody doesn't want that job within 15 minutes?
[45:37] Kim Monson: And what they're doing, Karen, is they're trying to make it more expensive and using policy to force you into that 15- minute neighborhood versusyou making that choice.
[45:47] Karen Levine: Well, that's kind of what I'm seeing and hearing and starting to feel the pressure, feel the pressure.
[45:55] Kim Monson: And you are a voice, though, for everyday people.
[45:58] Kim Monson: And I know you've spent a lot of time on this.
[46:02] Kim Monson: And it's not just coming out of Washington.
[46:05] Kim Monson: It's coming out of local government as well, Karen.
[46:07] Kim Monson: So yeah, but if people and people do, if you want to buy or sell your home, karen levine is the person to talk to.
[46:17] Karen Levine: They can reach me at 303- 877- 7516 andIam available to take their calls, even if they just have a couple of questions about how to navigate this crazy real estate market.
[46:33] Kim Monson: Karenlevine,thank you for standing for private property rights.
[46:38] Kim Monson: Uh, it's not easy, but thank you for doing it.
[46:40] Karen Levine: It's my pleasure, even though it's challenging.
[46:43] Kim Monson: We're going to go to break when we come back.
[46:48] Kim Monson: Regarding this transportation bill, stay tuned.
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[47:40] Kim Monson: We are an independent voice looking at these issues as freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[47:45] Kim Monson: Patty Kurgan, one of the ways they use force is through taxation and policy.
[47:50] Kim Monson: And that is, there's all kinds of force in this transportation bill.
[48:06] Kim Monson: Now, one other thing, and we didn't mention this, and that is that the El Paso County commissioners have said that they don't want that train coming down to El Paso County.
[48:17] Kim Monson: So they are not in support of this transportation bill.
[48:19] Kim Monson: So you're talking about the railroad, correct?
[48:25] Patti Kurgan: So that's a little bit different than this.
[48:28] Kim Monson: Oh, I thought that the money for that was in this as well.
[48:39] Patti Kurgan: This bill, actually, I'm going to ask people to go to table number nine in the fiscal note, and I think it tells you everything you need to know.
[48:47] Patti Kurgan: So beginning in, they have a three- year projection ofestimated funding for this transportation bill and the separate enterprises.
[48:57] Patti Kurgan: So in year three, they're looking at$ 125 million being generated.
[49:06] Patti Kurgan: 4 million willgo to the state highway fund.
[49:11] Patti Kurgan: And that's, again, if they get all the funding that they were talking about through federal stimulus money.
[49:16] Patti Kurgan: But you have, like, we keep talking about multimodal options.
[49:24] Patti Kurgan: They have an electrical vehicle grant fund of 0.
[49:35] Patti Kurgan: The community access enterprise it gets 21.
[49:48] Patti Kurgan: Some ofthese things I see duplication in and of course they're putting it all under different agencies.
[49:55] Patti Kurgan: Some of them will go under the Colorado Energy Office.
[50:00] Patti Kurgan: Just CDOT and our favorite, the Colorado Department of Health, Public Health and Environment.
[50:05] Patti Kurgan: They'll get their own little enterprise for this.
[50:10] Patti Kurgan: And the staff gets salaries plus all their benefits.
[50:17] Patti Kurgan: And instead of limiting government, which we keep talking about, it just keeps bloating it.
[50:25] Patti Kurgan: And again, as I read through it, I found some duplication.
[50:27] Patti Kurgan: But they'll have it in different departments and so they'll be paying two people for maybe the same job and patty.
[50:36] Kim Monson: This really goes against our freedom of mobility.
[50:41] Kim Monson: Sustainability, um, whatever it is exactly, uh, I can't remember.
[50:47] Patti Kurgan: Here I've got it, oh, here it is, uh, sustainability of the transportation system.
[50:54] Patti Kurgan: It's interesting, because sustainability is never really defined in the bill.
[50:58] Kim Monson: It doesn't almost mean anything today.
[51:00] Kim Monson: It sounds good because we want things to be sustainable, but this is not sustainable from a financial standpoint and to be depending on the federal government for all of this money.
[51:14] Patti Kurgan: All the fees that we're talking about really are going to go for these other enterprises.
[51:20] Patti Kurgan: So the only fee really that I could see that's going directly to the rosen bridges, is the additional fee that will be paying at the pump.
[51:30] Kim Monson: And uh so all of this money is going to be going and and they're going to be using policy to try to get people out of their cars and on into these trains and buses and these, uh, apartment buildings.
[51:48] Patti Kurgan: Oh I, I can already see it, because some of these have specific states that they get grants.
[51:51] Patti Kurgan: And grants can be used for anything as we know, right?
[51:53] Patti Kurgan: So I can already see somebody turns on their TV and you're going to be seeing ads why you have to trade in your vehicle for an electrical vehicle.
[52:04] Patti Kurgan: Right now we have all these commercials about why you need to get the shot.
[52:08] Patti Kurgan: Well, now it's going to be why you need to get your electrical vehicle.
[52:14] Kim Monson: It takes a lot longer to charge them up.
[52:17] Kim Monson: And as we know, the batteries do not work very well in cold weather.
[52:22] Kim Monson: And it seems like we should be electing people that want to help us thrive and prosper instead of putting through legislation that actually, I think, hurts us.
[52:35] Kim Monson: Oh, Steve, you're waving your arms.
[52:39] Producer Steve: A little tidbit I heard on USA Radio News earlier this week.
[52:42] Producer Steve: Toyota, Now, here's something that the Colorado Golden Domers don't have under their control.
[52:49] Producer Steve: Toyota is readjusting their forecast for the number of EVs that they're going to be manufacturing downward because they just don't see the demand.
[52:58] Producer Steve: So what's going to happen down at the Golden Dome when you have manufacturers holding back?
[53:06] Patti Kurgan: No, what they're going to do, and it's in this bill, is they're going to give more incentives.
[53:12] Patti Kurgan: So already here in the state of Colorado, if you buy an electric vehicle, you get$ 4,500.
[53:21] Kim Monson: And that's the thing about if you want to drive an electric vehicle in a free market, do that.
[53:27] Kim Monson: So the state of Colorado has been giving a$ 4,500 income tax credit.
[53:33] Kim Monson: The feds have been giving an$ 8,000 income tax credit.
[53:36] Kim Monson: So when you see people driving around in electric vehicles, what they're basically doing is they got to take$ 12,500 off their income tax right off the top.
[53:47] Kim Monson: And so there's the carrot that you're talking about, Patty.
[53:51] Kim Monson: But there will be, if they don't get the numbers that they want, there will be a penalty coming down the road.
[53:58] Patti Kurgan: And the fact of the matter is when you're talking about the incentive that people get, it's been shown on average the income that somebody makes is in the mid-70s.
[54:12] Patti Kurgan: So they have completely taken out the average person earns around$ 50,000 a year.
[54:23] Patti Kurgan: Do they lose their car and then they get forced onto public transportation?
[54:27] Kim Monson: So let's just very, we only have a minute left to connect this dot.
[54:32] Kim Monson: So the high wage earner, which I love high wage earners.
[54:35] Kim Monson: I want everybody to increase their wages.
[54:39] Kim Monson: But then they're saying that they can get a break of$ 12,500 on their income taxes.
[54:45] Kim Monson: But the little guy over here who's trying to go up the economic ladder wants to have their transportation, wants to have affordable, reliable, efficient, and abundant energy.
[54:55] Kim Monson: They're making that energy more expensive for them.
[54:58] Kim Monson: So the high wage earner is paying less in taxes and the little guy over here is paying higher fees, correct?
[55:06] Kim Monson: Hmm, it doesn't seem like a very good idea.
[55:10] Patti Kurgan: All the time it's it's, it's just classic, it's it's hurting the the little guy I mean.
[55:19] Patti Kurgan: The small business owners, even with this gas shortage on the East Coast.
[55:23] Patti Kurgan: I've been told it's this very small gas stations are the ones that don't have any gas.
[55:29] Kim Monson: Okay, so when we talk about the grassroots, that means we need to understand these issues.
[55:34] Kim Monson: We need to be engaging in this battle of ideas.
[55:40] Kim Monson: Tyrants, they just look different from each and every generation.
[55:43] Kim Monson: But this is tyrants down here at the Colorado Statehouse.
[55:49] Kim Monson: and it is the grassroots that's going to save Colorado.
[55:53] Kim Monson: Patty Kurgan, thanks for being here.
[55:57] Kim Monson: Thank you, and thank you to your listeners.
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