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[01:06] Kim Monson: It is Wednesday, and that means that it is Wings Day at Hooters Restaurants.
[01:11] Kim Monson: And for dine-in, well, they have five locations, Lone Tree, Westminster, Aurora, Loveland, and Colorado Springs.
[01:19] Kim Monson: And on Wednesdays, for to-go and dine-in, it's not valid on delivery.
[01:25] Kim Monson: If you buy 20 wings, you get 10 for free.
[01:31] Kim Monson: They have Texas barbecue rub on them.
[01:36] Kim Monson: And when I have the girls over, I normally order Hooters wings, and they are a big hit.
[01:40] Kim Monson: So for more information, go to HootersColorado.
[01:50] Producer Steve: Yes, it is.
[01:52] Producer Steve: And I'm sitting here thinking about what you just said about having the wings from Hooters at your event.
[01:58] Producer Steve: I went to one of those events on a Wednesday night.
[02:00] Producer Steve: I never got close to the table.
[02:02] Producer Steve: So I can't vouch for that.
[02:05] Kim Monson: That's one of the reasons why you couldn't get close to the table.
[02:10] Kim Monson: Thank you to each of you for listening.
[02:14] Kim Monson: Live with intention and take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body.
[02:19] Kim Monson: And thank you to the team that I get to work with.
[02:22] Kim Monson: That's producer Steve, Zach, Patty, Keith, Charlie, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting.
[02:26] Kim Monson: We've got a great show planned for you today.
[02:29] Kim Monson: We'll be going through some headlines in the first and second segment.
[02:32] Kim Monson: And then we'll be talking with Kathleen Skama from the Western Energy Alliance about all of the executive orders and actions that are being taken by the Biden administration, which really is going to hurt everyday hardworking people.
[02:46] Kim Monson: It's going to increase energy costs for us to heat our homes, for us to drive our cars.
[02:55] Kim Monson: And I think a lot of people don't even realize all the products that are made from petroleum, that has some petroleum in it.
[03:04] Kim Monson: Patty had mentioned it to me after we saw the CEO of VF Corp.
[03:10] Kim Monson: This was back in December, which they are the parent corp of Smartwool socks and North Face garments that, in fact, they would not sell to Inovex, which is an oil services company.
[03:26] Kim Monson: It sold their products to them for Christmas gifts that Inovex was going to be giving to their employees.
[03:32] Kim Monson: And to Patty's point, when you look, take a look at all of the things that have some petroleum in them.
[03:38] Kim Monson: North Face, certainly I we think about that, and we think about outdoors skiing.
[03:42] Kim Monson: Well, when you ski, your skis have some petroleum-based products in it, as well as the helmet that you're going to wear, of course, the garments that North Face is making, many of the puffy coats.
[03:55] Kim Monson: They have petroleum in them- your cell phone, your computers.
[03:59] Kim Monson: And quite frankly, if there are those people that are so bent on not using any petroleum products, why don't they just quit using them?
[04:07] Kim Monson: Don't drive their car, don't use their phone, don't use their computer, don't ski, don't do all the things that have petroleum in them, because petroleum-based products have made our lives better.
[04:18] Kim Monson: And this this war on fossil fuels is actually going to, I think, reduce our quality of life if they're successful in this, Steve.
[04:31] Producer Steve: Well, we say whatever the basic rights, the pursuit of happiness, everything you just said, why don't they just stay at home?
[04:39] Producer Steve: Why don't they stop doing this, doing that?
[04:41] Producer Steve: I say, well, it's my right to pursue my own pursuit of happiness.
[04:44] Kim Monson: I think the thing about it is, is they want to do that stuff, but they don't want you to do that.
[04:50] Producer Steve: Oh, does that happen?
[04:52] Producer Steve: Does John Kerry jet around on his own private jet?
[04:56] Producer Steve: Is that what you're telling me?
[04:59] Kim Monson: The hypocrisy of it all is actually, and the other thing is, is just energy independence, what it does for our security.
[05:12] Kim Monson: and the fact that with energy independence, Donald Trump was nominated for three, if not four different times for the Nobel Peace Prize.
[05:22] Kim Monson: And he is a president that did not get us into any new wars.
[05:27] Kim Monson: And within the last two weeks, Joe Biden has moved troops into Syria already.
[05:32] Kim Monson: And we see that China is kind of rattling their swords as well.
[05:36] Kim Monson: And energy independence, it saves lives.
[05:41] Kim Monson: And anyway, we're going to be talking with Kathleen Skama in segments three and four about this.
[05:46] Kim Monson: It is so important that we have freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly.
[05:52] Kim Monson: These things that are enshrined in our Constitution, we see such an assault on those.
[05:58] Kim Monson: And freedom of speech, independent voices is so important, particularly during this time.
[06:04] Kim Monson: We are one of those independent voices.
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[06:14] Kim Monson: We'll be talking with Lorne Levy with Polygon Financial Group here in just a little bit, as well as Jason McBride at the bottom of the hour.
[06:23] Kim Monson: My friends, when you're talking with, and we have to engage in these conversations, and we have to be searching for truth and clarity.
[06:31] Kim Monson: And we look at these issues as freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[06:34] Kim Monson: If something is a good idea, you do not need to have force to implement it.
[06:41] Kim Monson: And our quote for today is from Mark Twain.
[06:43] Kim Monson: And the quote at the end of the show is a beautiful quote by Mark Twain, but he's also a humorist.
[06:49] Kim Monson: And he was born in 1835, and he died in 1910.
[06:54] Kim Monson: He was a humorist, journalist, lecturer, novelist who acquired international fame for his travel narratives, especially The Innocence Abroad, which was written in 1869, Roughing It in 1872, and Life on the Mississippi in 1883.
[07:09] Kim Monson: And for his adventure stories of boyhood, especially The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, which he wrote in 1876, and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, which he wrote in 1885.
[07:22] Kim Monson: And this is what he said, politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason.
[07:29] Kim Monson: I'm going to say we need to throw in politicians and bureaucrats need to be changed often.
[07:34] Kim Monson: In fact, we need to start to work on getting rid of some of these bureaucrats.
[07:38] Kim Monson: This administrative state is looking so onerous.
[07:41] Kim Monson: We need to be electing representatives that are going to roll back this administrative state here that we have going on.
[07:48] Kim Monson: My friends, when we're talking with people, we need to ask these questions.
[07:53] Kim Monson: What, why, when, how, where, and who?
[07:56] Kim Monson: And of course, Roger Kipling has said that those are the questions that we really need to be asking.
[08:10] Kim Monson: We just have to continue to engage in this battle of ideas out there.
[08:15] Kim Monson: First thing that I wanted to go to.
[08:18] Producer Steve: Point of order.
[08:19] Producer Steve: Parliamentary rules, what they say.
[08:21] Producer Steve: I think so.
[08:22] Producer Steve: You know, after my little on-air lack of optimism yesterday, I'm wondering, would you consider changing the name of the show?
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[08:32] Producer Steve: Friends of Winnie the Pooh.
[08:34] Producer Steve: You could be Tigger, and I'll be Eeyore.
[08:37] Kim Monson: I was thinking about that yesterday.
[08:40] Kim Monson: You were having a morning for sure.
[08:41] Producer Steve: I think it was a little, you know, call it hangover from Monday.
[08:44] Producer Steve: I don't know.
[08:45] Producer Steve: Continue.
[08:46] Producer Steve: you?
[08:46] Kim Monson: Well, it's a bit daunting on what is happening.
[08:49] Kim Monson: And I guess the first thing I'd like to mention is I think we all know that Nancy Pelosi, and they're now calling it Nancy's wall around the People's House, the United States Capitol.
[09:07] Kim Monson: And apparently those people that don't think we need a wall down at the southern border think that they need to have a wall around the People's House in Washington, D.
[09:15] Kim Monson: And it has razor wire around the top.
[09:17] Kim Monson: And I never thought that I would live to see the day that we would actually put a wall around the People's House.
[09:26] Kim Monson: And interestingly enough, though, the day that January 6th, that they were certifying or whatever the word is, the electoral votes.
[09:38] Kim Monson: And we knew that there would be several senators and House of Representatives representatives that were going to challenge some of these electoral votes.
[09:50] Kim Monson: And actually, we're going to ask for a little bit more time to take a look at that.
[09:54] Kim Monson: And of course, that was the day of the Trump rally.
[09:56] Kim Monson: And then we had an eyewitness account that was at the rally.
[10:01] Kim Monson: There was probably anywhere from 350,000 to a half million people there.
[10:11] Kim Monson: And she said once she got to the Capitol, she said there were only like eight Capitol police there.
[10:16] Kim Monson: And they kind of moved the fence and kind of invited people in.
[10:20] Kim Monson: Now, can you believe that the day that they're taking that vote when they think that maybe something might happen, they only had eight Capitol police and they moved the fence.
[10:31] Kim Monson: just not even hardly three weeks later, we have a wall around the Capitol with razor wire at the top.
[10:39] Kim Monson: It seems like that maybe that might have been a day that they might wanted, Nancy should have had a little more security.
[10:45] Producer Steve: Well, we talked about it yesterday.
[10:48] Producer Steve: Again, I can't remember the quote now.
[10:51] Producer Steve: Rahm Emanuel never, what was it?
[10:54] Kim Monson: Never let a good crisis go to waste.
[10:55] Producer Steve: There is a classic example.
[10:57] Producer Steve: All right, they made a crisis on January 6th, and they looked down the road and said, oh, my gosh, the inauguration is coming on the 20th.
[11:04] Producer Steve: We better do something.
[11:06] Producer Steve: Bingo, there goes that fence, that very heavy-duty fence, which, you know, could turn into a wall.
[11:12] Producer Steve: You would have thought that after the 20th that that would disappear.
[11:16] Producer Steve: One would think so.
[11:17] Producer Steve: But again, they took advantage of the situation, and now it's here.
[11:20] Kim Monson: Well, the other thing that our eyewitness had mentioned, and that is that when she got down to the Capitol, that there were a number of people there that were dressed all in black, that had helmets, and they had milk, which mitigates tear gas, apparently, very thick wooden sticks, as well as gas masks.
[11:48] Kim Monson: I've never seen anybody in any of these trump rallies ever show up in that kind of garb, and they did actually arrest one of those people, and this person had antifa ties.
[12:00] Kim Monson: My understanding is that person has been released, but something isn't matching up.
[12:06] Kim Monson: But yet the narrative that they have out there all the time is that this was a riot instigated by trump supporters.
[12:12] Kim Monson: There were Trump supporters that did go into the Capitol.
[12:15] Kim Monson: But I think we need to delve a little bit more into who were these people that were dressed in black.
[12:21] Kim Monson: So we'll continue to ask those questions.
[12:24] Kim Monson: On the line with me, though, is a great partner.
[12:26] Kim Monson: I get to work with just really terrific people.
[12:29] Kim Monson: And Lorne Levy, who is the owner of Polygon Financial Group, is one of those great partners of both the Kim Monson Show and America's Veterans Stories with Kim Monson.
[12:42] Kim Monson: What's going on with interest rates?
[12:44] Lorne Levy: They are holding steady, just what we were hoping for.
[12:50] Lorne Levy: Not much has happened, and so we're just moving on.
[12:54] Lorne Levy: People are taking advantage of the opportunity to refinance, and if they can find a home in this market, you'll have some good buying power with low rates.
[13:04] Kim Monson: As we are looking at all this printing of money, Lorne, we continue to hear the word inflation, inflation.
[13:12] Kim Monson: Interest rates go up during an inflationary period, correct?
[13:18] Lorne Levy: The only difference between, you know, we have the Fed backstop in the mortgage market that you and I have talked about.
[13:26] Lorne Levy: And if you start to hear that the Federal Reserve is starting to back out of buying mortgage-backed securities, you'll start to see rates move higher.
[13:35] Lorne Levy: But for now, they are the primary buyer.
[13:37] Lorne Levy: And so they are helping to keep mortgage rates down.
[13:40] Lorne Levy: And, you know, Congress is talking about this next stimulus, but it hasn't passed and hasn't, that$ 1.
[13:49] Lorne Levy: So we're not seeing so much of that yet.
[13:51] Kim Monson: And I really want to take a look at what's in that stimulus.
[13:54] Kim Monson: Because the last stimulus that, or I guess the stimulus that was presented by the Democrats had a lot of stuff that didn't really do anything for American citizens or America.
[14:05] Kim Monson: I haven't really had a chance to take a look at that.
[14:08] Kim Monson: Have you seen anything on that yet, Lorne?
[14:10] Lorne Levy: I have not seen the inside of it yet because I don't know that they've agreed.
[14:14] Lorne Levy: And, you know, there's a lot of talk about making it smaller or how they're going to handle it.
[14:19] Lorne Levy: And so once they agree, maybe we'll get to see it.
[14:22] Lorne Levy: But I have not seen the inside of it yet, no.
[14:24] Kim Monson: So at this point, if you've not refinanced, make sure you do not procrastinate because these interest rates, this is something that in a way I think could be a little bit of a buffer to inflation if you can get something locked in at a low rate right now and that will remain steady for the life of your mortgage.
[14:41] Kim Monson: It'll save you thousands of dollars and that seems like that's a great little buffer to inflation.
[14:50] Lorne Levy: I mean, it's amazing to see when people have, you know, in Colorado, homes are expensive.
[14:56] Lorne Levy: So people have some large mortgages and the payments they're getting with these low rates is kind of amazing.
[15:03] Lorne Levy: And it's really helpful to see people saving, you know,$ 200,$ 300,$ 400 a month on the payments.
[15:11] Kim Monson: And if people want to take advantage of this, Lorne, how can they reach you?
[15:15] Lorne Levy: The best way is to call 303-880-8881.
[15:19] Lorne Levy: Or they can go to the website polyphigroup.
[15:25] Kim Monson: And again, that number is 303-880-8881.
[15:36] Kim Monson: And when we come back, we'll continue with some headlines and then Kathleen Skama at the bottom of the hour.
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[16:52] Kim Monson: Wanted to just mention Gin Hulin over at Water's Edge Winery.
[16:57] Kim Monson: It's a great place to get together with friends.
[17:00] Kim Monson: And they've got a couple of things coming up for Valentine's Day.
[17:02] Kim Monson: They've got a dinner on Saturday the 13th.
[17:06] Kim Monson: It's a three-course dinner handcrafted by Chef D.
[17:09] Kim Monson: and they're going to have savory and delicious bruschetta followed by smoked quail over cauliflower bash, beet puree tucked into a nest of fried leeks, all followed by a scratch-made trio of mousse.
[17:23] Kim Monson: And that's$ 45 per person, the wine and gratuity is not included.
[17:28] Kim Monson: they're going to have Valentine's Trivia contest with prizes.
[17:33] Kim Monson: And so please RSVP the number 720-381-6663.
[17:41] Kim Monson: And then on Valentine's Day on Sunday, they're going to have a Galentine's Day with all single ladies and any interested guys.
[17:50] Kim Monson: And that's$ 20 per person, and get you a glass of wine and then some other fun things they're going to be doing as well.
[17:57] Producer Steve: Wow.
[18:01] Producer Steve: That's all I can say.
[18:04] Kim Monson: We're going to be talking a lot about energy with Kathleen at the bottom of the hour.
[18:10] Kim Monson: Something that I'm very concerned about.
[18:13] Kim Monson: This is from Newsmax and it says Fauci sees vaccinations for kids by late spring or in the summer.
[18:21] Kim Monson: And and the way they've written that, he says Fauci says it's a needed step to securing widespread immunity to the coronavirus.
[18:29] Kim Monson: And he said vaccines are not yet approved for children and Fauci was looking ahead to a time that they will be plentiful.
[18:38] Kim Monson: Even older adults are having difficulty getting shots at the moment.
[18:42] Kim Monson: And he says children represent about one-fourth of the population.
[18:48] Kim Monson: to herd immunity or widespread resistance about 70 to 85 percent of the population must be vaccinated.
[18:56] Kim Monson: I am very, very concerned about this.
[18:59] Kim Monson: As you know, I have been watching this vaccination legislation that is being proposed over the last few years here in Colorado, and we're seeing it's kind of a cut and paste legislation from California to Colorado, and then that gets pushed out.
[19:15] Kim Monson: You'll see it Oregon, Washington, and we need to be very, very concerned about this, particularly with our children.
[19:22] Kim Monson: James Lyons-Weiler on yesterday, and we've been talking about that they have not gone through all the trials for this vaccination yet.
[19:31] Kim Monson: And quite frankly, if people want to take the vaccine, they should have the freedom to do that.
[19:38] Kim Monson: But if people want to step back and get more information, or may want to say know to the vaccine.
[19:44] Kim Monson: I think that in America, that is the way it's supposed to work.
[19:49] Kim Monson: And the fact that Hank Aaron took the vaccine in early January and passed on in late January, I think should cause us to have some questions about this.
[20:05] Kim Monson: Fauci is going to want to vaccinate children, because I don't think that we have enough information on that.
[20:11] Kim Monson: And I'm concerned about forced vaccinations, that unless you have the vaccination, you will not be able to do X.
[20:20] Kim Monson: I mean, you could take the word mask and insert the word vaccine in what we've been seeing from these health departments.
[20:26] Kim Monson: And we need to really roll this back.
[20:29] Kim Monson: I think that we need to stop and have some questions on this.
[20:32] Kim Monson: There's good treatments for the coronavirus.
[20:36] Kim Monson: And we will be talking with, I think, some of the doctors next week about that as well.
[20:40] Kim Monson: And so I'm just very concerned about that.
[20:43] Kim Monson: Steve, do you have any comments on that?
[20:46] Producer Steve: Well, more comments than we have time for, I guess.
[20:51] Producer Steve: But I had a discussion yesterday with our friend Matt from KLTT next door.
[20:58] Producer Steve: And because a certain, I probably shouldn't name, another talk show host was just railing that his choice of words was so misleading that the vaccine itself was going to make the virus go away and I am concerned I have been since December that the public in general doesn't have a good understanding of what this vaccine really does or is supposed to do so it's the vaccine itself is just not going to erratic magically make the the virus disappear The vaccine, given enough time, will build up a population whose immune system has been tricked up, you know, a little bit, if that's the right phraseology.
[21:42] Producer Steve: Yeah, okay, that will happen, given enough time.
[21:47] Producer Steve: But the time factor, the methodologies employed, it all makes me scratch my head.
[21:50] Kim Monson: Well, I was listening to one of the other national talk show hosts yesterday, and I was astounded to hear that the U.
[22:03] Kim Monson: Department of Health and Human Services was actually running ads.
[22:09] Kim Monson: And it kind of sounded to me like they were buying ads, and it was all starting to push towards a vaccine.
[22:17] Kim Monson: And one of the ads was it was a grandmother talking to her little grandchild and basically said, honey, for right now, we need to make sure that we social distance and we wear masks until we get the vaccine.
[22:32] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking this is so kind of the same message that I heard back during the Obama administration regarding trying to get people on to food stamps.
[22:42] Kim Monson: and they were calling it the SNAP program.
[22:44] Kim Monson: And it was two older ladies, and they were talking, and one said, oh, I just signed up for the SNAP program where I can have fresh fruits and vegetables, and it's really great, and it's free.
[22:55] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking, this is kind of a propaganda campaign, and I don't see this ending well, Steve.
[23:03] Producer Steve: Well, noteworthy, in yesterday's package, as we all know, as was promised by the Gov, he was going to push the health care workers and the first responders to the front of the line, which he did.
[23:15] Producer Steve: You know, my daughter is a nurse out at, what's the place up here?
[23:20] Producer Steve: Anschutz.
[23:21] Producer Steve: Yeah, Anschutz.
[23:22] Producer Steve: Thank you.
[23:22] Producer Steve: See you.
[23:24] Producer Steve: Well, anyway, regardless what the name is.
[23:26] Producer Steve: And this article in yesterday's package from Patty says that there are many, roughly half the workers decided to skip the vaccine when it was offered.
[23:35] Producer Steve: and I thought it was noteworthy.
[23:39] Producer Steve: The gentleman's name is Douglas Farmer.
[23:41] Producer Steve: He's the CEO of Colorado Healthcare Association, which represents nursing and assisted living facilities around the state.
[23:49] Producer Steve: And he is quoted as saying, there was...
[23:55] Kim Monson: I know that you have it right there and I bet that's Jason calling in here.
[24:02] Producer Steve: There was a reserve of folks that were saying, look, I'm not opposed to the vaccine, but this one, it was so fast, it was so politicized, I'm just not sure.
[24:13] Producer Steve: So there's some people speaking their mind.
[24:15] Kim Monson: Well, and one has to ask from a property rights standpoint, and this is what we're seeing with government being in, I'm going to say collusion, with big business.
[24:31] Kim Monson: And if people are working for big businesses, then big business, do they really have the right to say to you that you have to do this in order to be employed here?
[24:41] Kim Monson: And the other thing, Dot, that I want to connect is that through this whole COVID-19 Wuhan virus reaction disruption, that big business, basically, they stayed open.
[24:54] Kim Monson: But public policy closed down many of our small businesses, our midsize businesses, where people would make the choice for themselves.
[25:03] Kim Monson: And so there seems like there's this just kind of this collusion on, I think, taking away people's rights on their informed choice on whether or not to do this, and when government gets in the business of forcing you to do something.
[25:17] Kim Monson: The other thing we have to mention is is they have been basing this on modeling.
[25:22] Kim Monson: Uh, carl derenbach has done so much work on this and they are basing this on modeling.
[25:27] Kim Monson: And when we talk to kathleen, at the bottom of the hour there's a cu professor who's also talking about the modeling, on climate change.
[25:34] Kim Monson: And the modeling gets them to the narrative that they can then push out the public policies that they want to push out.
[25:43] Kim Monson: And so I think we have to ask before we are injecting things into our body, we want to make sure that we have informed consent.
[25:50] Kim Monson: If people want to take the vaccine, great.
[25:52] Kim Monson: But if people want to get more information and want to make sure that they're using real science, not flawed modeling in making these decisions, then I think that we should have the freedom to do that.
[26:04] Kim Monson: Jason McBride, Senior VP, Presidential Wealth Management, what do you think?
[26:10] Jason McBride: Well, I certainly agree with you, Kim, and I think it's interesting the media blitz and the narrative to try to get everybody to be comfortable with the vaccine.
[26:23] Jason McBride: I've seen commercials with, Of course, showing health care people, doctors and nurses saying to take the vaccine.
[26:32] Jason McBride: And there's one line in there where they say the vaccine has been proven safe.
[26:42] Jason McBride: They might think it's safe, but there haven't been any long-term tests on this whatsoever that would prove that it was safe.
[26:50] Jason McBride: So I think you're right, Kim, there's a big narrative out there to get everybody to do what they want again, whether we want to or not.
[27:00] Kim Monson: And certainly this has to be paid for.
[27:07] Kim Monson: And I don't know how much the vaccine is, but also the vaccine testing, that seems to be a bit of an industrial complex as well.
[27:14] Kim Monson: So anyway, we're going to continue to talk about this and try to connect the dots.
[27:18] Kim Monson: But you just asked one of those important questions is, how has it been proven safe when there hasn't been enough time to do that?
[27:25] Kim Monson: But Jason, what's been going on with the market and what happened with GameStop yesterday?
[27:35] Jason McBride: The stock ended up closing down under 100 for the first time since I think this whole thing started.
[27:42] Jason McBride: So yesterday the stock was down 135 points to close at 90.
[27:50] Jason McBride: This morning it looks like it's going to open a little bit lower as this, you know, this big short sale deal kind of unwinds.
[27:57] Jason McBride: And you've had shorts cover and some, you know, additional shorts come in.
[28:03] Jason McBride: I mean, how long can this pricing last on a company that's losing money the last three quarters and is really just not a strong company?
[28:18] Jason McBride: I mean, it worked out well for those that got involved at the right time, but now it's kind of dying on the vine along with some of the others that also were part of that group.
[28:29] Jason McBride: As far as the market scale, they had a good day yesterday.
[28:39] Jason McBride: And there's reason that today could be a decent day as well, because we had some good earnings from Amazon, good earnings from Google, two of yours and my favorite companies, as you well know.
[28:50] Jason McBride: But Jeff Bezos stepped aside as the CEO of Amazon, and he's taking on the role of executive chairman, which usually means less day-to-day interaction with the company.
[29:05] Jason McBride: I'm sure he wants to have more time to spend with tremendous social justice and social engineering endeavors.
[29:17] Kim Monson: Gosh, I'm really excited about that, Jason McBride.
[29:21] Kim Monson: That is why, though, for your own economic well-being, you need to sit down with Jason McBride and put together your own plan for your own life.
[29:28] Kim Monson: And people can reach you how, Jason?
[29:31] Jason McBride: Best way is to just do it old school and give us a call.
[29:47] Kim Monson: And when we come back, we'll be talking with Kathleen Skama.
[29:49] Kim Monson: She is the president of Western Energy Alliance.
[29:54] Kim Monson: And my gosh, Joe Biden has been very busy with his pen, and it is hurting everyday hardworking Americans.
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[31:41] Kim Monson: and having the freedom of mobility to go where I want to when I want to.
[31:44] Kim Monson: I love all the products that have petroleum in them, like my computer and my phone and skis and all kinds of things like that.
[31:52] Kim Monson: And we're seeing a real assault on this with the Biden administration.
[32:00] Kim Monson: Joe Biden was inaugurated just a few weeks ago, and he has gotten out his pen.
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[32:09] Kim Monson: And it looks like we're having a technical difficulty.
[32:20] Kim Monson: And before he'd hardly even been in office, he had stopped the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, actually putting many, many people, their jobs on hold or possibly out of work.
[32:35] Kim Monson: And now he is talking, he has a 60 day ban on oil and gas drilling and permits on public lands, except he has carved out tribal lands, which is kind of interesting.
[32:49] Kim Monson: And again, what this does for energy independence, what this does for everyday hardworking people, and how we live our lives, I think most people just want to live their lives and, and have government stay out of their business.
[33:02] Kim Monson: They want to be able to take care of their families, enjoy their life when they get home from work.
[33:08] Kim Monson: They actually enjoy probably cooking over their natural gas range.
[33:13] Kim Monson: And those things look like they might be under assault.
[33:28] Kim Monson: Kathleen, you are the president of Western Energy Alliance.
[33:32] Kim Monson: And reliable, affordable, efficient and responsible energy has brought more people out of poverty.
[33:38] Kim Monson: It's increased their quality of life.
[33:41] Kim Monson: And we have seen here in America that We have been reducing our greenhouse gases in a very responsible manner in the oil and gas industry.
[33:51] Kim Monson: But yet when Joe Biden got into office, he stopped the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, this new ban on drilling on federal lands.
[34:03] Kim Monson: This is just almost beyond belief on what's happening.
[34:06] Kim Monson: And I was thinking about our conversation when I was driving in today, and I'm just super concerned what this is going to do for everyday hardworking people.
[34:13] Kathleen Sgamma: Well, it is going to put 58,000 people out of work every year by the end of President Biden's first term.
[34:25] Kathleen Sgamma: 5 billion in economic opportunity, and it's going to wipe out$ 8.
[34:45] Kathleen Sgamma: It was very clear from the campaign, and then certainly during the second debate when he promised to ban drilling and leasing on federal lands, we have been gearing up for this.
[34:56] Kathleen Sgamma: And so as soon as he signed the order, we sued because he simply doesn't have the authority to do so.
[35:05] Kathleen Sgamma: So, yes, it will kill jobs in the West, primarily where 97%or more of federal oil and natural gas takes place.
[35:13] Kathleen Sgamma: And it's just not a good action when the country is trying to recover from COVID.
[35:24] Kim Monson: I was talking to my researcher the other day, and she'd seen a welder who had been working on the Keystone pipeline, had a good job and basically got his pink slip within just a few days after Joe Biden stopped construction of the Keystone XL pipeline.
[35:40] Kim Monson: And Joe Biden says, well, they can get a job in renewables.
[35:45] Kim Monson: Well, yesterday we reported that the construction or the manufacturing of solar panels, most all of that is done in China.
[35:56] Kim Monson: I don't understand what he thinks he's, where these jobs are going to come from that he's killing.
[36:07] Kathleen Sgamma: Oil and gas jobs, welders and other union pipe fitters jobs, they can just go and lay solar panels on people's rooftops, forget that it's not as high paying.
[36:22] Kathleen Sgamma: Now, killing jobs in the oil and natural gas industry is not going to create jobs in the renewable ones, because renewables don't do everything that oil and natural gas do.
[36:34] Kathleen Sgamma: So when we kill American jobs in oil and natural gas, all we're saying is that we want to import that energy from overseas, and therefore we export those jobs.
[36:44] Kathleen Sgamma: Now, certainly, there are jobs in the wind and the solar industry, But those that are available now can be filled by other people that are already unemployed or others wishing to get into that line of work.
[37:00] Kathleen Sgamma: But it's not like killing American production suddenly makes renewable jobs pop up.
[37:06] Kathleen Sgamma: That's just not how the economy works, and that's not how our energy works, because we get 70 percent of our energy in America from oil and natural gas.
[37:15] Kathleen Sgamma: Wind and solar, despite decades of government subsidies, don't fill the same energy needs that oil and natural gas does.
[37:24] Kathleen Sgamma: So, therefore, it's just not as simple, oh, we can just have the coal miners learn how to code, and the oil and gas welders and pipe fitters and drillers, they can just all learn how to, you know.
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[37:43] Kim Monson: Okay, it looks like we had another technical difficulty there with Kathleen.
[37:46] Kim Monson: Not quite sure what's going on with that.
[37:48] Kim Monson: But while we're getting her back on the line, I'm just thinking about John Kerry and all of his jetting around regarding talking about climate change.
[37:55] Kim Monson: I think first and foremost, he should start to put his jet on power by wind and solar.
[38:02] Kim Monson: And once he gets that done and starts to use that as his energy source for his airplane, then maybe we can have a conversation about getting rid of fossil fuels, which I'm saying that facetiously, because fossil fuels are the things that have actually brought more people out of poverty.
[38:22] Kim Monson: They've increased the quality of life of everyday hardworking people.
[38:26] Kim Monson: And you see, there's no other country in the world where we have people wanting to come here to improve their quality of life.
[38:38] Kim Monson: And, uh, and again, I think many times we forget all of the different products that have petroleum- basedproducts in them, like our computers and our phones, and much of our clothing and the things that we like to do to ski or to kayak, or all of these things have petroleum in their manufacturing.
[39:03] Kim Monson: Why is there such a war on fossil fuels?
[39:07] Kim Monson: Before we get Kathleen back on the line, Patty had found this piece.
[39:11] Kim Monson: And it says, the CU professor says, much of climate research is untethered from the real world.
[39:17] Kim Monson: And he cites the misuse of scenarios.
[39:20] Kim Monson: And it says, President Biden recently, we know this, signed a sweeping executive order aimed at what the White House calls a profound climate crisis.
[39:28] Kim Monson: As Biden's unilateral exercise of authority notes, he says there's little time left to avoid setting the world on a dangerous, potentially catastrophic climate trajectory.
[39:37] Kim Monson: Now, I also want to mention to all of you, don't you remember that the climate does change?
[39:43] Kim Monson: And then we also have things that are called weather.
[39:46] Kim Monson: There was a time that Colorado was a rainforest, a tropical rainforest.
[39:50] Kim Monson: And then there was a time that, during the Ice Age, that we had woolly mammoths that were walking here in Colorado.
[39:59] Kim Monson: So what is this perfect temperature that all the climologists want us to get to?
[40:02] Kim Monson: But Professor Roger Pilkey at CU, University of Colorado Department of Environmental Studies, says that basically a lot of this climate change rhetoric is based on outdated science.
[40:17] Kim Monson: Kathleen Scama, that really concerns me that there's a narrative out there to shut down the oil and gas industry, but it's based on a false narrative.
[40:27] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Kathleen?
[40:37] Kim Monson: And when we come back, we're going to see if we can get the technical difficulties figured out with Kathleen Scama, who is the president of Western Energy Alliance.
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[42:25] Kim Monson: Kathleen Skama, president of Western Energy Alliance.
[42:28] Kim Monson: I had mentioned as we were having some technical difficulties here that CU professor Roger Pelkey has said that a lot of the narrative out there regarding climate research is basically based on, let's see, what does he say here?
[42:47] Kim Monson: That, well, it's flawed data, let me just put it that way.
[42:53] Kim Monson: But yet, it's a narrative that's being pushed out there, that is then being used to make these decisions regarding shutting down the Keystone XL pipeline, or this ban on new drilling permits on federal land.
[43:08] Kim Monson: I'm a bit concerned about that, that this narrative is actually probably not totally based on science.
[43:16] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Kathleen?
[43:18] Kathleen Sgamma: I'm glad you're familiar with Professor Pilkey's work, because he's very concerned about climate change, as many of us are.
[43:31] Kathleen Sgamma: But the alarmism about it and the hyperbole is causing bad policies.
[43:39] Kathleen Sgamma: It's causing a lot of stress in people, because some people actually believe the world is going away in 10 years.
[43:44] Kathleen Sgamma: I mean, you know, religions used to be, you know, ancient religions used to believe that, too.
[43:49] Kathleen Sgamma: Every 40 years, you know, the world is going to go away.
[43:55] Kathleen Sgamma: But Professor Toki and other reasonable people in academia and elsewhere, when they actually look at the science from the IPCC, which is supposed to be the gold standard of climate science, they realize, you know, it's an issue to address.
[44:18] Kathleen Sgamma: So when climate proposals are put in place that are very extreme, it doesn't help solve the problem, and it creates a lot of extra churn and bad policymaking and a lot of extra expense on the taxpayer that is really not efficient to solve the problem.
[44:39] Kathleen Sgamma: So, for example, natural gas is number one reason the United States has reduced more greenhouse gas emissions than any other reason in the United States.
[44:53] Kathleen Sgamma: And that is because increased use of natural gas in the electricity sector is actually displacing more carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions than wind and solar energy combined.
[45:06] Kathleen Sgamma: And we in the natural gas industry have done that by delivering an affordable, abundant supply of natural gas that makes electricity generation cheaper.
[45:16] Kathleen Sgamma: And so that's why we've won in the marketplace with natural gas.
[45:20] Kathleen Sgamma: As we increase electricity generation from natural gas, we displace greenhouse gas emissions, and we do it more efficiently at a lower cost without government subsidies than wind and solar do.
[45:34] Kathleen Sgamma: Now, women's solar are part of the mix, but they're not even delivering as much greenhouse gas reduction as natural gases.
[45:44] Kathleen Sgamma: But President Biden and others on the left just don't even want to acknowledge that contribution.
[45:54] Kathleen Sgamma: We need to get rid of them by 2035 or pick a year when he's out of office and won't be held accountable for it.
[46:02] Kathleen Sgamma: We want to pick a year and say it's all going to go away.
[46:04] Kathleen Sgamma: Now, thankfully, we experienced this at the start of the Obama administration.
[46:09] Kathleen Sgamma: People forget, but at the start of the Obama administration, oil and natural gas was going to be gone in 10 years, and all renewables would take over.
[46:24] Kathleen Sgamma: Obviously, that didn't happen despite billions of dollars in subsidies to the renewable industry.
[46:32] Kathleen Sgamma: And, you know, we're seeing that same cycle again with the Biden administration, the same.
[46:40] Kathleen Sgamma: You know, the rhetoric is more, oh, the world's ending in 12 years, says AOC and others.
[46:46] Kathleen Sgamma: So let's all, you know, address this problem in a rational way.
[46:52] Kathleen Sgamma: and let's recognize the contribution that natural gas makes and being part of that energy mix.
[47:00] Kathleen Sgamma: Because really, any reliable, realistic energy projection to the year 2050 shows oil and gas continuing to increase in use all across the globe because India and China, they have rising populations becoming more prosperous.
[47:21] Kathleen Sgamma: they want to be able to heat and cool their homes just like we do.
[47:26] Kathleen Sgamma: And the best way to do that is with the energy that lifts people out of poverty, not starving these developing countries from energy, as some would like to, but recognizing that the benefits from oil and natural gas far outweigh the impact.
[47:44] Kathleen Sgamma: And so that's why energy use from oil and natural gas will continue to grow as the renewable energy grows out to 2050..
[47:52] Kim Monson: Well, one other thing, Kathleen, a point I'd like to make is this narrative that basically tries to say that oil and gas are bad, renewables are good.
[48:04] Kim Monson: Renewables, actually there's rare earth minerals that have to be mined in third world countries for much of the renewables, the electric batteries for these electric cars.
[48:17] Kim Monson: And so there's not this honest conversation that is going on, because there's always benefits, and there's also costs to different things.
[48:27] Kim Monson: But as you've mentioned, in the fossil fuel industry, it's continued here in America to become cleaner and cleaner and innovative and just all the creation that happens in this industry.
[48:42] Kim Monson: And people's lives have gotten better because of it.
[48:46] Kim Monson: And when we have affordable, reliable, efficient, and responsible energy, people thrive and prosper.
[48:54] Kim Monson: And I can't, for the life of me, figure out politicians and bureaucrats that want to take away, via public policy, this thing that makes our lives better.
[49:06] Kim Monson: And then the other thing I always like to mention from a geopolitical standpoint, when America is energy independent, that makes us stronger.
[49:14] Kim Monson: it protects our young people from having to go fight wars as well.
[49:18] Kim Monson: I mean, there's all kinds of reasons that we should support reliable, efficient, responsible, and abundant energy, instead of what's happening with the Biden administration, Kathleen.
[49:31] Kathleen Sgamma: And there is a false narrative about energy out there, that wind and solar can replace oil and natural gas.
[49:44] Kathleen Sgamma: I was recently on an interview, and the head of the energy office here in Colorado made that point.
[49:50] Kathleen Sgamma: You know, it's only a matter of political will, and we can go 100% renewables.
[50:05] Kathleen Sgamma: And the fact that we don't have enough rare earth minerals to make all the battery storage and renewables to actually power 100%of our energy use, that would be cost prohibitive.
[50:16] Kathleen Sgamma: And it's unlikely that, you know, because we're getting most of those minerals from China, that that would be possible.
[50:22] Kathleen Sgamma: There is a fellow out of Manhattan Institute in New York, Mark Mathis, who's done great work on all of the mining that would have to occur for us to go 100 percent renewables or even, you know, increase renewables because they require so much mining.
[50:42] Kathleen Sgamma: And because we don't see that environmental impact here, it's over in China or it's in Africa, under just appalling conditions with no environmental controls.
[50:53] Kathleen Sgamma: We don't see that here, so we can pretend that wind and solar are completely clean and have no impact.
[51:07] Kathleen Sgamma: We're very proud that we have met every legitimate environmental challenge that we have faced.
[51:19] Kathleen Sgamma: Every legitimate environmental issue, we tackle and address by innovation.
[51:26] Kathleen Sgamma: And we also operate under very strict environmental regulations and controls.
[51:32] Kathleen Sgamma: So it's better to produce that energy here with a job stay here in the United States than import it from other countries that are not as environmentally responsible.
[51:41] Kim Monson: Well, and one other thing that we haven't mentioned yet, and that is the tax revenue that is generated by the oil and gas industry.
[51:50] Kim Monson: Here in Colorado alone, Biden's actions could cost Colorado schoolchildren up to$ 60 million in education funding.
[51:58] Kim Monson: And education is something that's very important to families and communities.
[52:04] Kim Monson: And where's that money going to come from?
[52:06] Kim Monson: And I think that's important to highlight that as well.
[52:10] Kathleen Sgamma: Absolutely just by the one action alone of banning leasing on federal lands.
[52:17] Kathleen Sgamma: And in my view, federal lands development in colorado is a smaller portion of our production here than it is in states like new mexico and wyoming that have a very large portion of production on federal lands.
[52:31] Kathleen Sgamma: But even in Colorado, by the end of the Biden term, batting leasing results in$ 428 million in lost revenue.
[52:41] Kathleen Sgamma: That's revenue for schools, as you mentioned, revenues for roads, public health, other services that are vital to sustaining life here in Colorado.
[52:54] Kathleen Sgamma: It's asking states like Colorado to make sacrifices in terms of jobs and revenue for the state.
[53:01] Kathleen Sgamma: And I don't think President Biden is thinking of those impacts.
[53:06] Kathleen Sgamma: I think he's also forgetting that the oil and natural gas industry provides almost 100 percent of the conservation money for natural national parks and wilderness areas and other public lands all across the West.
[53:23] Kathleen Sgamma: 2billion every year, potentially, if there are leasing and loyalty revenue from the industry.
[53:35] Kathleen Sgamma: By restricting that development on federal lands and waters, he's putting at risk$ 2.
[53:43] Kathleen Sgamma: I don't think the president's thinking about that either.
[53:46] Kim Monson: Yeah, so we only have a couple of minutes left, Kathleen.
[53:49] Kim Monson: You said that you have, Western Energy Alliance has sued.
[54:01] Kathleen Sgamma: We sued in the district for Wyoming because Wyoming has the most federal leased acreage in the country.
[54:09] Kathleen Sgamma: And we sued immediately, because we're just not going to sit idly by while a president takes an unlawful action.
[54:17] Kathleen Sgamma: He's required by the Mineral Leasing Act, which has been on the books passed by Congress for several decades.
[54:22] Kathleen Sgamma: He can't simply ignore a requirement in the law that says the Interior Department shall hold quarterly lease sales in all oil and natural gas states.
[54:39] Kathleen Sgamma: And hopefully we can get this executive order overturned and get back to business.
[54:45] Kim Monson: And Kathleen Skama, I really like lights when I turn on the switch, and I like driving around in my car, and I like heat in the winter and air conditioning in the summer and all these great things.
[54:55] Kim Monson: And the many products, I recommend that people just do a search for all the products that have petroleum in them, and it makes our lives better.
[55:03] Kim Monson: So, Kathleen Skama, we've got about 30 seconds.
[55:06] Kim Monson: Is there anything that we everyday people should be doing?
[55:11] Kathleen Sgamma: Well, I think, just staying engaged and understanding that this is a wave, or this is kind of a cycle.
[55:18] Kathleen Sgamma: A new administration comes in, they have high hopes, they want to get their agenda done and presidents often, you know, try to shortcut things and just do the executive orders.
[55:35] Kathleen Sgamma: We're pretty much a 50- 50nation, and so ultimately those moderate policies will prevail, just because that's what the voters are telling the politicians, and so you know you kind of ride this wave of radical policies.
[55:49] Kathleen Sgamma: But moderation will prevail in reality, because no politician is really going to tell people they can't drive or heat their home.
[56:00] Kim Monson: Okay, hey, kathleen scamma, let's stay in touch, as she is the president of western energy alliance, greatly appreciate the conversation.
[56:05] Kim Monson: Thanks so much, Kim, for having me on today.
[56:10] Kim Monson: And our quote for today is from Mark Twain.
[56:12] Kim Monson: He said, we are called the nation of inventors, and we are.
[56:15] Kim Monson: We could still claim that title and wear its loftiest honors if we had stopped with the first thing we ever invented, which was human liberty.
[56:22] Kim Monson: So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, Please strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[56:34] Kim Monson: God bless you and God bless America.