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[01:28] Producer Steve: Yep, yep, yep, like our friend the camel just said.
[01:34] Producer Steve: I forgot to warn you that he was here today.
[01:37] Kim Monson: Well, you know, he's somewhat unreliable.
[01:41] Producer Steve: He's got an ego like Barack Obama.
[01:45] Kim Monson: Yes, speaking of Barack Obama, his birthday party, his 60th birthday party, He's going to have, what, 700 guests, 200 servants, people serving.
[01:56] Kim Monson: And I guess he's scaling that back now because people are like, well, wait a minute.
[02:01] Kim Monson: The government is basically implying this Delta variant is a real killer.
[02:06] Kim Monson: And obviously that's a real problem.
[02:08] Kim Monson: So under all the pressure, I guess he's scaling that back or maybe not having it right now, but just a much smaller group.
[02:16] Kim Monson: And the thing about it, Steve, is if you really look at this, either they don't believe what they are saying, and they know it's not true.
[02:28] Kim Monson: The idea that bureaucrats and politicians and interested parties, speaking of interested parties, the fact that Pfizer made over$ 33 billion on the vaccine this last go-round.
[02:41] Kim Monson: So that's an interested party, if you will.
[02:43] Kim Monson: But they obviously, they don't believe it, but they are scaring people like crazy out there, Steve.
[02:50] Producer Steve: Well, I've been tracking this one for the last week or so and thinking, all right, either they are incredibly stupid and they're going to go ahead with this event in Martha's Vineyard, or there might be something else out there.
[03:04] Producer Steve: Do you want to share that?
[03:06] Kim Monson: Do you think possibly, Steve and I, we were talking on our pre-call for the show, that this has been a distraction, just like Governor Cuomo of New York.
[03:21] Kim Monson: Because we're seeing more and more information regarding potential election integrity challenges.
[03:31] Kim Monson: And you just wonder if this is a bit of a distraction now.
[03:34] Kim Monson: And there'll be distraction after distraction, as I think we get closer and closer to the target.
[03:39] Producer Steve: On this, Steve, well, I I know better.
[03:44] Producer Steve: In one sense I hate to insult anyone's integrity, but I know better that you know the American populace is is incredibly distracted and uninformed and always looking the wrong direction, and it certainly doesn't- you know- I wouldn't put it past them- to be putting up, potentially purposely putting up distractions to keep people from looking at things like what's going on in Arizona, what's about to break loose in Pennsylvania in terms of election integrity or this budget mess.
[04:16] Producer Steve: That's, I'm sorry, this big infrastructure bill that's about to break loose.
[04:22] Producer Steve: I mean, what can you do to keep people from actually looking and seeing what's going on.
[04:27] Kim Monson: Well, and that is why we do this show, is to search for truth and clarity on these issues as we look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[04:38] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[04:42] Kim Monson: And remember, it is never compassionate.
[04:45] Kim Monson: Many times, all of this stuff is couched on this is compassionate, this is caring about people.
[04:52] Kim Monson: Well, it's not compassionate to take other people's rights or their property, their freedom or their livelihood via force, whether it is with a weapon, policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, and we're seeing coercion across the spectrum, or the latest silent thief, which is government-induced inflation.
[05:12] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement this.
[05:16] Kim Monson: I so appreciate each and every one of you joining us, each of you listeners.
[05:21] Kim Monson: And thank you for the support that you give to us.
[05:24] Kim Monson: I get to work with a great team as well, and that is producer Steve, Zach, Patty, Keith, Charlie, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting.
[05:31] Kim Monson: It is, you know, Steve, it is really an honor to get to do this work that we are doing.
[05:37] Kim Monson: And sometimes I know that it seems overwhelming for you, the listeners, and it is somewhat overwhelming as well as we try to muddle through all of this, this mess, to shine truth and to look for truth, to shine light on this, and just a little light, Steve, just a little light really helps, and so then we hope you will engage with your friends and your family, and your colleagues and your neighbors, because we are engaged in an epic battle of ideas right now, Steve.
[06:08] Producer Steve: Well, that's an excellent segue to the inspirational wisdom, the thing that you do daily.
[06:15] Producer Steve: So let us have it.
[06:20] Kim Monson: He was born in 1928 and he died in 2003.
[06:25] Kim Monson: He was an American television host, author, producer, and Presbyterian minister.
[06:29] Kim Monson: He was the creator, showrunner, and host of the preschool television series, Mr.
[06:34] Kim Monson: Rogers Neighborhood, which ran from 1968 to 2001.
[06:39] Kim Monson: He said, honesty is often very hard.
[06:42] Kim Monson: The truth is often painful, but the freedom it can bring is worth the trying.
[06:48] Kim Monson: And just a little bit of truth will really push back on this just barrage of lies and chaos and confusion that comes at us on a daily basis, Steve.
[07:01] Producer Steve: Well, and I think the freedom he's referring to, I could be wrong, but the freedoms he's referring to is the unburdening of the soul.
[07:19] Kim Monson: The show this week, America's Veterans Stories, which will be on Sunday at 3 and then also at 10, features retired major army.
[07:27] Kim Monson: Retired army major general joe arbuckle and a really fascinating story.
[07:34] Kim Monson: He went into the army as a private and ended up to the rank of general.
[07:39] Kim Monson: That's pretty remarkable just in itself.
[07:42] Producer Steve: My experience in the military, that alone, is why this guy has all the credibility that he has.
[07:48] Producer Steve: I was exposed to some generals who, you know, they went the other route.
[07:54] Producer Steve: They went to the different service academies and rose up through the ranks.
[07:58] Producer Steve: But unfortunately, a lot of them are really full of themselves and their egos.
[08:02] Producer Steve: It was tough to be in the room with them.
[08:04] Producer Steve: But this guy, he speaks like none of the other ones.
[08:12] Kim Monson: Well, and he also, we've done another, he was on the show, on the Kim Monson show, because when retired Marine General Mattis was going after Trump, General Arbuckle said, he doesn't speak for all of us.
[08:26] Kim Monson: And so they organized very quickly and just very grassroots as well.
[08:32] Kim Monson: They had 197 flag officers, that's your admirals and your generals, that signed a letter that they sent out and they said, Mattis does not speak for us.
[08:41] Kim Monson: And General Arbuckle also said that we are, our country is in great peril right now.
[08:52] Kim Monson: And that is why each and every one of us has got to get our brain around these issues and to understand them and be talking with our friends and our family and our colleagues, because we are at a very dangerous time in our country right now.
[09:08] Kim Monson: Whether or not this American idea is going to survive or whether or not Marxism is going to take over our country.
[09:14] Kim Monson: And we can see that Marxism, communism, socialism is knocking at the door, Steve.
[09:20] Producer Steve: It is, but I get sometimes when you're talking and you talk about the five things, or the five or six things, that Lista keeps on growing and the things that are impacting and taking away our freedoms and stuff.
[09:38] Producer Steve: If I just, it just, every one of those, it could be an hour long topic unto itself.
[09:48] Kim Monson: It's been under the radar, but it's been occurring for quite some time.
[09:52] Kim Monson: And basically part of it, I think even started when we started to censor ourself, which this came out of the sixties into the seventies and the eighties.
[10:00] Kim Monson: And that is, is we don't talk about politics or religion in polite company.
[10:04] Kim Monson: So then that meant that we weren't talking about the big ideas, the things that really mattered, and really kicking the tire on these ideas.
[10:12] Kim Monson: You're kicking the tires on these ideas.
[10:18] Kim Monson: We need to make sure that we engage and talk about these big ideas.
[10:22] Kim Monson: I wanted to go to one of the headlines.
[10:24] Kim Monson: Well, first of all, our researcher Patty, this was really a great find.
[10:31] Kim Monson: And Senate Bill 21-142 was passed this last legislative session.
[10:37] Kim Monson: And it says, Healthcare Access in Cases of Rape or Incest.
[10:41] Kim Monson: And it was sponsored by Senators Pedersen and Donovan and Representatives Carveo and McCluskey.
[10:49] Kim Monson: And basically, it's an abortion bill, if you will.
[10:54] Kim Monson: And but in in there and Governor Polis signed this.
[11:02] Kim Monson: It says every person has a right to privacy with respect to personal health decisions, free from coercion or interference from the government.
[11:10] Kim Monson: And it goes on to say some other things.
[11:15] Kim Monson: Governor Polis signed that this last May.
[11:16] Kim Monson: And when we look at all of the coercion that is occurring out there, which takes us to this particular headline, that, let's see, here it is, that Denver is increasing the maximum fine for public health violations to$ 5,000.
[11:31] Kim Monson: And we're wondering just the timing on this.
[11:34] Kim Monson: It says the Denver City Council adopted an ordinance on Monday, this last Monday night, amending the maximum fine its city health department can levy against a business from$ 999 to$ 5,000.
[11:47] Kim Monson: The Denver Department of Public Health and Environment argued that the increase is necessary because the current fine level is too low and is seen as the cost of doing business.
[11:58] Kim Monson: The measure will also allow the agency to be more flexible in its assessments across industry types.
[12:04] Kim Monson: That's code word for being able to pick winners and losers.
[12:09] Kim Monson: It says then the executive director is Bob McDonald.
[12:13] Kim Monson: And he said that the initiative began before the pandemic began.
[12:18] Kim Monson: And he said, what we're seeing more and more is that our administrative fine authority has been unchanged for decades.
[12:23] Kim Monson: That's always a great reason to change things.
[12:25] Kim Monson: And what we're seeing is that some businesses and regulated industries are disobeying these rules.
[12:31] Kim Monson: I tell you, it looks like the heavy hand of force and coercion is alive and well in this beautiful city that I used to love.
[12:45] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll continue with some of these headlines.
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[14:07] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[14:15] Kim Monson: And, again, this city, Denver, this whole metro area, I just so used to love it.
[14:19] Kim Monson: And Mayor Hancock is just really heavy-handed.
[14:25] Kim Monson: He is really pushing forward Marxist policies in our beautiful city.
[14:31] Kim Monson: And I don't even, Steve, I don't even want to go into Denver if I can help it, because crime is up.
[14:39] Kim Monson: There's homeless on the streets, which that's not compassionate either.
[14:44] Kim Monson: Those that are mentally ill, that are homeless.
[14:46] Kim Monson: Really they need to be at a different place than on the streets, and those that are able to work really need to work.
[14:55] Kim Monson: But that has been one of the goals of the world economic forum, and again a year ago I was talking with a friend of mine who we've been on this a bit a year ago- if you talked about what the world economic forum, what their goals were, that people wouldn't own anything and be happy about it.
[15:12] Kim Monson: You kind of felt a little out there that you were saying that.
[15:16] Kim Monson: And now we look at what is happening with crime and excessive taxation, unpredictable taxation, all these rules and regulations that are chipping away at people's property rights.
[15:30] Kim Monson: For example, what we just talked about in this last segment where the Denver Public Health Department has upped their fines.$ 5,000 for a small little business is a really big deal.
[15:43] Kim Monson: And again, you have bureaucrats like this that they can come in and they can use their force on one business and they can just waltz past the next business.
[15:55] Kim Monson: This is never the way it was supposed to be, Steve.
[15:59] Producer Steve: Well, I agreed.
[15:59] Producer Steve: And if we want to lay all this at the feet of the mayor, we stop and stand back for a second and ask, who is Michael Hancock?
[16:08] Producer Steve: And, you know, I think being the mayor, he's kind of checked that one off and says, been there, done that.
[16:14] Producer Steve: He's still looking to the next position in his public service career.
[16:19] Producer Steve: And let's not forget, he's taken whether he was picked or chosen or he just ascended.
[16:25] Producer Steve: I don't know how he did this, but he's the acting head of MORE, which is Mayors Organized for Reparations and Equity.
[16:34] Producer Steve: He and probably about 12 other mayors from other cities around the country.
[16:40] Producer Steve: Are, you know, actively pursuing this and you're thinking all right between that, which is a nationally recognized position now, or at least he's getting that level of attention, uh, coupled with his performance in this declaration on monday about what he wants city workers and health care workers and vendors to be doing, and saying: all right, let's not kid ourselves here.
[17:06] Producer Steve: We know washington is always on the hunt for looking for people who are playing the game the way they want it played.
[17:11] Producer Steve: So one way or the other, Hancock's looking to his next position, which I would say will be something national.
[17:19] Kim Monson: Well, and what you were referring to is his rule, a ruling that all public workers basically in Denver have to be vaccinated.
[17:31] Kim Monson: But yet yesterday when we were talking to Dr.
[17:36] Kim Monson: James Lyons-Weiler, is that we are seeing that vaccinated people are actually getting COVID.
[17:41] Kim Monson: Now the other thing about it that we forget to, we just, this is, has not been part of the conversation is, is A, testing positive for COVID does not necessarily mean that you've gotten sick.
[17:55] Kim Monson: And then if you do, in fact, get sick from COVID, there are treatments out there, but yet we've had government that has said we can't talk about some of those, the ivermectin and the hydroxychloroquine.
[18:10] Kim Monson: But I did see on the headline here that it looks like the FDA is going to approve a cocktail, a COVID cocktail, which makes me wonder, so if it's a new FDA-approved cocktail, so is that a new drug?
[18:26] Kim Monson: Does that mean that, once again, Big Pharma is going to make money on that?
[18:30] Kim Monson: One of the reasons they don't like hydroxychloroquine is it's been out for years and years and years and years, and they don't make a ton of money on it.
[18:37] Kim Monson: So this is kind of connect the dots on the money on this.
[18:40] Kim Monson: But there are treatments out there.
[18:42] Kim Monson: If somebody does come down with COVID, there are effective treatments.
[18:46] Kim Monson: And so are we not looking at hospitalizations and deaths instead of now just these potential positive test results?
[18:54] Kim Monson: And going back over to Mayor Hancock then, And forcing people, when we talked with Jack yesterday, Dr.
[19:06] Kim Monson: James Lyons-Weiler yesterday, he couldn't totally connect the dots.
[19:13] Kim Monson: But there is, it looks like, an ingredient in COVID that could possibly cause infertility.
[19:21] Kim Monson: Well, Mary Hancock, what about all these young teachers?
[19:25] Kim Monson: What about all these young staff members that have not started their families yet and want to start a family?
[19:30] Kim Monson: What if we do find out that that's true and yet you force this on people?
[19:36] Kim Monson: I mean, that's pretty cruel to me, Steve.
[19:42] Producer Steve: Well, you talk about leadership and one of the qualities you want them to have is compassion.
[19:48] Producer Steve: And what was the last thing said in his declaration?
[19:53] Kim Monson: Oh, you might just lose your job if you don't get it.
[19:57] Producer Steve: There might be some folks who may lose their jobs behind this event.
[20:02] Producer Steve: He says, we recognize that.
[20:04] Producer Steve: Oh, you do?
[20:05] Producer Steve: Well, man, there's some top drawer compassion right there.
[20:11] Kim Monson: And then one other thing, when you mentioned that he's heading up this mayors for reparations, here he is mayor of a city that wasn't even a state during the Civil War, first of all.
[20:25] Kim Monson: And second of all, really, so we're going to take money from people who never owned slaves.
[20:35] Kim Monson: Many people, their ancestors weren't even in America at that time because the Civil War was before the Great Migration.
[20:41] Kim Monson: So just because of the color of your skin, you're going to take money from one person and give it to another person who was not a slave either.
[20:54] Kim Monson: But what it is, Steve, is once again, it is an assault on property rights.
[21:00] Kim Monson: And it is the love of the unearned money.
[21:07] Kim Monson: But they're doing everything they can to, well, Patty and I have talked about it, to try to move people to a universal-based income.
[21:15] Kim Monson: And that's basically you just get money just because you exist.
[21:19] Kim Monson: Well, ultimately, as Maggie Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money and what the government giveth, the government can take it away.
[21:31] Producer Steve: Well, you know, we've been quoting Thatcher now for ever since she made that statement.
[21:37] Producer Steve: And I wonder sometimes that people, you know, they kind of snicker, they laugh and say, yeah, isn't that the truth?
[21:41] Producer Steve: But do they really get the truth?
[21:43] Producer Steve: And are we going to have to endure another painful lesson and saying, oh, my gosh, what Thatcher said, that's really real.
[21:54] Kim Monson: It is going to be very painful, which that let's go over to this infrastructure bill.
[22:00] Kim Monson: And again, Patty does such great research on all this.
[22:04] Kim Monson: And she said that she figured out why she couldn't find it because she wanted to read it, take a look at it.
[22:13] Kim Monson: But they didn't really drop the bill until.
[22:19] Kim Monson: They didn't really drop the bill till just the other night.
[22:21] Kim Monson: So these people that are going to be voting on it, they don't even know what's in it, steve, but it is.
[22:28] Kim Monson: It's another bill that does that sound familiar?
[22:32] Producer Steve: Yeah, we, we need to pass it so we can find out what's in it.
[22:36] Kim Monson: And there's also this huge bribe in there as well.
[22:40] Kim Monson: This is from the Washington Examiner, and it says here that the infrastructure bill includes$ 1 billion for a commission that is run by Joe Manchin's wife.
[22:52] Kim Monson: And Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema, she's a senator from Arizona and he's a senator from West Virginia.
[23:03] Kim Monson: We are really looking to them to hold the line here for America.
[23:07] Kim Monson: and history is looking at them because they've got to hold the line.
[23:12] Kim Monson: And so can you believe that they've put this big bribe in there for Manchin's wife?
[23:17] Kim Monson: I mean, this is just so blatant you can't even believe it.
[23:21] Producer Steve: Well, let's not, you know, I don't know.
[23:29] Producer Steve: Maybe it's, I can't, I dare not talk about our age, but maybe it is our age where the audacity level keeps rising and it keeps taking our breath away.
[23:42] Producer Steve: And I can't imagine people who are a couple generations down from us who this now has become.
[23:47] Producer Steve: Just.
[23:48] Producer Steve: This is just the way things are.
[23:50] Producer Steve: And there was a day where it wasn't this way.
[23:55] Kim Monson: It's been a long road to get to this point.
[24:00] Kim Monson: And, uh, manchin has said that there will be no filibuster.
[24:06] Kim Monson: Oh, this was on one other thing, no filibuster, exception for the democrats on the voting rights bill, which I hope he holds the line there.
[24:12] Kim Monson: But there's all kinds of of really really bad stuff going on there.
[24:17] Kim Monson: But I want to jump over here to Lorne Levy.
[24:19] Kim Monson: He is, uh, one of our, our sponsors of both the shows, the kim Monson show, as well as America's Veterans Stories.
[24:26] Kim Monson: And he is an expert on mortgages, on interest rates.
[24:30] Kim Monson: His company is Polygon Financial Group.
[24:38] Kim Monson: Hey, I sent something over to you and want to talk with you about it today and with Karen tomorrow.
[24:46] Kim Monson: And that is that it was a realtor that had a buyer of a home, that the purchase was being held up because the lender apparently was saying that I guess the employer would not verify employment because the employer was forcing people to have vaccinations.
[25:09] Kim Monson: Lauren, what's your thoughts on that?
[25:15] Lorne Levy: I have not seen it firsthand yet as far as I have not had a loan that went sideways.
[25:20] Lorne Levy: because of an employer pulling this thing.
[25:23] Lorne Levy: But that could, I mean, that is really, it's one thing to say you're their boss and they have to do what they have to do to work for your company, but then you're potentially stopping their rights of home ownership by refusing to provide documentation about their employment.
[25:38] Lorne Levy: I mean, to me, it sounds like it ends up in court.
[25:42] Lorne Levy: But I have not had that happen yet.
[25:44] Lorne Levy: But it would not surprise me if we do with everything else that's going on.
[25:48] Kim Monson: Well, it really is very concerning, this force that's going on out there and this coercion.
[25:55] Kim Monson: And so the government is, through these businesses, it's forcing people, forcing employers to do this.
[26:04] Kim Monson: We've got to stand against this because this isn't okay.
[26:09] Kim Monson: But, boy, here's somebody out there wanting the dream of home ownership and having that possibly held up in this crazy market as it is.
[26:21] Lorne Levy: They could lose their earnest money on a purchase because that verification on employment is often done last minute, right before a loan closes, because they just want to make sure, the lender does, that you still have your job, you know?
[26:32] Lorne Levy: So that could be done the morning of closing or just the day before.
[26:35] Lorne Levy: And at that point, you've gone past your loan deadline and you could lose your earnest money that you put down.
[26:43] Lorne Levy: So they could be costing buyers tons of money.
[26:45] Kim Monson: What do you think we can do about it?
[26:49] Lorne Levy: I mean I just read what you sent me yesterday and it lit me up.
[26:54] Lorne Levy: So I mean I haven't heard it in the market yet.
[26:58] Lorne Levy: I'm certainly going to talk about it with lenders, um that I talk to, to see what they're seeing, if anyone's seeing it, but it's something that we got to get in front of, oh, absolutely, or it does cost people a lot of money, okay, so you're going to be out there talking about it.
[27:12] Kim Monson: That's that's the first step on that, Lauren, for sure.
[27:16] Kim Monson: And you do work with a number of different lenders, so that's a really good thing as well.
[27:20] Kim Monson: If people want to refinance or get pre-qualified, how can people reach you, Lauren?
[27:26] Lorne Levy: Yep, the interest rates are still low.
[27:30] Lorne Levy: Feel free to call 303-880-8881 is the best number.
[27:33] Kim Monson: Again, that number is 303-880-8881.
[27:43] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll be talking with Josh Phillip.
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[28:48] Kim Monson: So let's jump over here to Josh Phillip.
[28:57] Kim Monson: Boy, a lot has been happening since we talked last time, Josh.
[29:01] Kim Monson: And you've been doing some important things regarding this whole vaccination thing in the Epoch Times.
[29:07] Kim Monson: You are the investigative reporter there with the Epoch Times as well as the host of Crossroads.
[29:16] Kim Monson: And one of the pieces that I saw recently that the Epoch Times reported on was that the CDC director said that vaccine passports may very well be a path forward in the U.
[29:25] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Josh?
[29:28] Joshua Philipp: Well, you know, the way they're doing it is through private businesses and through government agencies.
[29:35] Joshua Philipp: The Justice Department determined that because of the emergency declarations, that it's OK for private businesses and for government agencies to say that people have to be vaccinated, employees, if you're working at one of these companies or with the government, or for private businesses, if you're a customer.
[29:56] Joshua Philipp: And because they pretty much said that it's okay to do.
[30:00] Joshua Philipp: You've had a lot of different- uh, a lot of different companies, a lot of different government branches, like the time of the military, now even possibly doing mandatory vaccinations.
[30:07] Joshua Philipp: They're making it so that, well, pretty much you have to show a vaccine passport to use a lot of services.
[30:14] Joshua Philipp: New york is the first state to really take a big move on this new york city in particular, and they're making it so that, according to bill de Blasio just yesterday, as a matter of fact, that if you want to use, if you want to have indoor dining at restaurants, if you want to go to gyms, he's suggesting Broadway plays and things like this, and maybe they'll expand it.
[30:35] Joshua Philipp: But, you know, we're going to see whether this is legal or not, because even though the Justice Department has said, you know, hey, it's legal to do, as far as we're concerned, their assessment isn't like a Supreme Court decision.
[30:49] Joshua Philipp: And people can probably still sue these businesses very likely.
[30:55] Joshua Philipp: And I think we're going to see some lawsuits around this.
[30:57] Joshua Philipp: Because your health information is technically between you and your doctor.
[31:13] Kim Monson: Speaking of that, between us and our doctor, I just recently just went in to get a routine medical thing done.
[31:21] Kim Monson: And I basically said, could I have a copy of that?
[31:26] Kim Monson: And I said, how is it that they say here that all of this is private information, but yet out here in Colorado, people that have not gotten vaccinated are now getting postcards and cards in the mail, which that means everybody at the post office knows that that particular person has not gotten a vaccination.
[31:47] Kim Monson: How do those two things match up, Josh?
[31:52] Joshua Philipp: Well, Kim, that's where the legal fun is going to start because you mentioned under this HIPAA legality, which is basically, again, that your medical information is between you and your doctor.
[32:12] Joshua Philipp: The federal government, when Biden was talking about this whole thing they're announcing, where they want to have government technically external, but really technically on behalf of the government, people going door to door and seeing if people are vaccinated.
[32:25] Joshua Philipp: That brought up this big debate on, well, the government's going to be sending people door to door to see if we're vaccinated or not and trying to encourage us to get vaccinated.
[32:35] Joshua Philipp: Are they going to have a list of some kind on who is and who is not vaccinated?
[32:42] Joshua Philipp: The federal government clarified this and claimed, and this is an important point here because there's some nuance to it.
[32:49] Joshua Philipp: They claim that they do not have and do not maintain a database on vaccinations and so on, but they never said they wouldn't actually access or use such a database.
[33:03] Joshua Philipp: Just because the government doesn't personally maintain it doesn't mean that, for example, a third-party organization might have and maintain one that the government may use for a program like this.
[33:13] Joshua Philipp: And this has been kind of the bigger pattern we've been seeing in terms of how, well, frankly, the federal government.
[33:20] Joshua Philipp: government has been overstepping its normal boundaries, let's say, when it comes to censorship, when it comes to other things, when it comes to what we're seeing right now with vaccine mandates, is that they're not doing it themselves.
[33:32] Joshua Philipp: They're going through the medium of private business to do it.
[33:35] Joshua Philipp: And because private businesses have a bit more leeway with this stuff, and again, we'll see how this holds up in court, because I think you're going to see a lot of lawsuits.
[33:44] Joshua Philipp: They're able to do a lot of stuff the federal government couldn't do.
[33:46] Kim Monson: Josh, it's pretty difficult to sue City Hall or to sue the federal government because they'll just print money for all their attorney's fees.
[33:59] Kim Monson: Whereas everyday people, they don't have the resources.
[34:01] Kim Monson: A lot of people are so squeezed because of the government's reaction to COVID as it is.
[34:08] Kim Monson: Yes, there could be legal action, but that's really expensive.
[34:12] Joshua Philipp: Well, I think we're going to see some class action lawsuits.
[34:16] Joshua Philipp: I also think you're going to see some law offices possibly doing stuff on a more pro bono basis.
[34:22] Joshua Philipp: I think it's going to have a big enough impact that it's going to be in the interest- let's put it this way- of a law office or of a legal organization to take on this case, frankly, because it's going to be a very high profile case and there's benefit in doing that as well, let's say, even outside of just the moral issue of standing up for something like this.
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[34:57] Kim Monson: And somebody sent me a text message yesterday that I sent over to Lorne that it was a realtor who said that their buyer, their employer, would not verify their employment because the employer was forcing vaccinations.
[35:15] Kim Monson: And I guess this person had not gotten a vaccination yet.
[35:21] Kim Monson: And so they would not verify their employment, which meant that that put the mortgage in play, which meant that it put in play whether or not this person was going to be able to buy their own home, have home ownership.
[35:33] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Josh?
[35:34] Joshua Philipp: Well, kim, I think this ties into the bigger issue that I think we've actually discussed before on this show.
[35:43] Joshua Philipp: This is the bigger issue I think at play with this whole vaccine policy thing is that when governments were putting in place this whole, say, all these additional powers they gave themselves through this virus, one of the big questions was: you know, when this virus is over, when things start clearing up, when we have the vaccine, whatever the you know, whatever you want to say about it.
[36:05] Joshua Philipp: Will these different governments, local and federal, relinquish the additional powers they've given themselves?
[36:14] Joshua Philipp: Will they take all these pretty expansive powers that give them the ability to, for example, change election laws across the United States, to force Americans to stay in their homes, to put people out of work as they choose?
[36:27] Joshua Philipp: Will they relinquish these powers that give them the ability to overstep pretty much every one of our rights, or will they keep them?
[36:34] Joshua Philipp: And there's two directions local governments are going.
[36:38] Joshua Philipp: You have states like Texas and Florida, for example, where they've mostly relinquished them.
[36:43] Joshua Philipp: You have other states like California and New York where they're keeping them.
[36:50] Joshua Philipp: Rather than, for example, giving you back your rights, your rights are given back to you by the government selectively on a condition, and that condition is whether or you're vaccinated.
[37:01] Joshua Philipp: As I've said before, freedom then becomes something given to you by the government, not something you inherently have.
[37:12] Joshua Philipp: I've mentioned before, this is also part of the China model for dealing with this, you know, the whole health code on your smartphone thing.
[37:18] Joshua Philipp: This is the model the Chinese Communist Party has been promoting for governments around the world, where they can spread this totalitarian form of government where the expansive powers again stay in place.
[37:35] Kim Monson: And the place where we really then need to fight back is at the ballot box.
[37:39] Kim Monson: We need to have candidates that are, when we say conservatives, that means people that want to conserve this American idea that all men are created equal, and that we have these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
[37:54] Kim Monson: The government doesn't give us these rights.
[37:55] Kim Monson: What government gives, government can take away.
[37:57] Kim Monson: But these rights are inherent, and that is what the American idea is, is that government is in place to protect those rights.
[38:07] Kim Monson: And if those rights are protected, we can pretty well live generally in harmony.
[38:12] Kim Monson: And so we need to be electing people that understand that.
[38:16] Kim Monson: But I've seen, Josh, good people that do get elected and power, just a little power can actually go to people's heads and they kind of forget these founding principles.
[38:31] Joshua Philipp: Well, I would say that there's this anti-constitution force that's been in place for a long time.
[38:38] Joshua Philipp: Because, you know, when the founding fathers of the United States wrote the Declaration of Independence and declared this new interpretation of what government is and what the place and role of government is, where they say, again, before all this, keep in mind, right, the way it used to be was you had the divine right of kings.
[38:57] Joshua Philipp: The king was pretty much like the emissary of God himself, and anything they did was like written law.
[39:01] Joshua Philipp: The king's actions were what determined right and wrong in society.
[39:05] Joshua Philipp: The founding fathers of the United States flipped that whole thing on its head, and they said, no, people have unalienable rights.
[39:12] Joshua Philipp: They have natural rights that are given to them by God, and the role of government is to protect these God-given rights.
[39:19] Joshua Philipp: Or they state again that people, again, have unalienable rights.
[39:24] Joshua Philipp: Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and the government is instituted among them to protect those rights.
[39:31] Joshua Philipp: that reinterpreted the entire role and place of government.
[39:36] Joshua Philipp: And it means as well that government is, again, a public service that we create for ourselves in order to protect our life, liberty, and our property.
[39:46] Joshua Philipp: The Constitution of the United States really limits as well the role of government and the scope of government.
[39:52] Joshua Philipp: And so any totalitarian power, not just in the United States, I mean, in the United States especially, I think because government powers are severely limited, actually, by the Constitution.
[40:04] Joshua Philipp: The federal government's reach is technically limited within the boundaries of what is written in the Constitution.
[40:10] Joshua Philipp: States have a lot of powers as well, but even their ability to trample your rights is pretty dang limited.
[40:15] Joshua Philipp: And even foreign governments, the example of the United States, the example that a free people can create a prosperous and harmonious society, is something that every day is a thorn in their side, because every policy they have, every action they have that tramples on people's rights is contrasted with what Americans have.
[40:34] Joshua Philipp: You know, this is the whole story of the Soviet Union and its collapse.
[40:38] Joshua Philipp: This is the whole reason why people in Cuba are waving American flags as they protest against their communist leadership.
[40:46] Joshua Philipp: This is why protesters in Hong Kong were waving American flags and carrying Trump signs.
[40:50] Joshua Philipp: It's because the example of the United States is something that is a threat to every dictator, every tyrant, and every totalitarian regime in the world.
[40:59] Joshua Philipp: And anybody looking to trample on our rights really has to try to destroy that first.
[41:05] Kim Monson: It appears, Josh, actually, let's go to break, and we'll continue this conversation with Josh Phillip.
[41:13] Kim Monson: He is a senior investigative reporter with The Epoch Times.
[41:16] Kim Monson: He's the host of a really excellent video podcast, Crossroads.
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[43:10] Kim Monson: I've got on the line with me Josh Phillip.
[43:13] Kim Monson: He is a senior investigative reporter with the Epoch Times.
[43:18] Kim Monson: We have so many now that are just commentators and opinion writers.
[43:25] Kim Monson: And he's also the host of Crossroads, which is a great video podcast.
[43:31] Kim Monson: Josh, out here in Colorado, actually Mayor Hancock, Governor Polis, they really want to be California wannabes out here.
[43:38] Kim Monson: And we're having things presented out here in Colorado that aren't presented anyplace else in the country.
[43:46] Kim Monson: But Patty, my researcher, found this was very interesting.
[43:52] Kim Monson: This was some legislation that was passed this last session out here.
[43:57] Kim Monson: It was Senate Bill 21-142, and it was really a pro-abortion bill.
[44:02] Kim Monson: And but in in that what it actually said- and governor polis signed this into law in may- was it says every person has a right to privacy with respect to personal health decisions, free from coercion and interference from the government, and we find we think that's a great fine and from a legal standpoint that should really, I think maybe offer some protections for people out here in Colorado.
[44:33] Joshua Philipp: I mean, this is kind of the interesting way things are heading, is that there's a lot of contradictions in government action right now.
[44:39] Joshua Philipp: And the justifications they use for these expansive powers they're giving themselves, including abortion and things like this, really do contradict a lot of their other policies.
[44:51] Joshua Philipp: You know, the whole idea of my body, my choice, People are using that now as the slogan of saying, well, I choose not to put a vaccine in my body.
[44:59] Kim Monson (clip): It's my choice.
[45:01] Joshua Philipp: The whole narrative as well, for example, in Texas, where, again, Governor Abbott there is taking actions to limit illegal aliens entering the country.
[45:14] Joshua Philipp: The federal government is trying to put a hold on some of that.
[45:17] Joshua Philipp: and using the claim that, oh, well, you know, pretty much local governments don't have the ability to do this contradicts the former policy that the Democrats were pushing around the whole sanctuary city laws.
[45:30] Joshua Philipp: And so, you know, they're kind of shooting themselves in the foot, where on one side they want to restrict your rights using a certain narrative, but the other side they want to take your rights using that same exact narrative.
[45:41] Joshua Philipp: And, yeah, from a legal standpoint, I think a lot of these things won't stand up, because in their own words and their own documents, they've already contradicted a lot of these things.
[45:56] Joshua Philipp: And this is, I think, the normal course of, say, bloated government policy and bloated government action, where you have contradictions all over the place, even in terms of legalities and how the Constitution has been interpreted one way or the other.
[46:04] Joshua Philipp: But what it comes down to, I think, in the end is which version or which interpretation the Supreme Court chooses to look at.
[46:14] Joshua Philipp: And this is another big issue we have in this country is that the Supreme Court's role has been expanded beyond anything I think the founding fathers ever anticipated.
[46:23] Joshua Philipp: And the actions to take away our fundamental rights has been expanded beyond anything the founding fathers ever anticipated.
[46:31] Joshua Philipp: Keep in mind, many of them didn't even think a bill of rights was necessary because they didn't think that pretty much there could ever be threats against our basic rights.
[46:39] Kim Monson: Well, and that moves us over to elections really matter.
[46:43] Kim Monson: And what we saw with this last election cycle, it looks like our elections have been possibly compromised.
[46:56] Kim Monson: And so what's your thoughts on that?
[46:59] Kim Monson: And is some of this distractions, like with como, with obama and his birthday party- steve and I were talking about it in the first segment- is this: are these distractions?
[47:10] Kim Monson: Because we're starting to get over the target here on election integrity.
[47:19] Joshua Philipp: Back in 2016, when trump was elected president and you had groups across the whole board talking about election fraud and how Russia stole our elections.
[47:30] Joshua Philipp: And you had even a lot of the mainstream news outlets doing hit pieces and documentaries about the voting machines and all these problems with the voting machines.
[47:42] Joshua Philipp: All the different social media platforms allowed that kind of discussion.
[47:48] Joshua Philipp: They were making special counsels to investigate the president of the United States himself.
[47:54] Joshua Philipp: Every single Democrat was talking about it nonstop.
[48:04] Joshua Philipp: I mean, technically, even now, some of them probably believe the whole Trump-Russia hoax, which was disproven.
[48:09] Joshua Philipp: It turned out it was a document that was pretty much fabricated, paid for by the Democratic National Committee in the Clinton campaign.
[48:21] Joshua Philipp: Then 2020 happens, and really, what you had was governments across the whole country change election laws, using the virus and the expanded powers they had as a way of doing so, changing them in ways that did not strengthen the integrity of the elections, but actually removed a lot of the safeguards that we have against fraud.
[48:39] Joshua Philipp: And despite that, despite these groups claiming that foreign countries are trying to steal our election, they came out and declared this was the safest, most secure election we've ever had.
[48:54] Joshua Philipp: That they've declared- this is the most secure election or whatever that we've ever had, that there was no possibility of fraud, when not only did they not put additional safeguards in place against the very things they were warning about, but instead removed existing safeguards using methods that were questionably legal.
[49:14] Joshua Philipp: The only difference was their guy won and the guy that they didn't like got out.
[49:19] Joshua Philipp: And suddenly then all the social media platforms are saying, you can't even discuss this.
[49:24] Joshua Philipp: It will get you censored and deplatformed, and it's misinformation, and we're going to form all these different groups to ensure that you can't have online discussions about this.
[49:32] Joshua Philipp: and all the mainstream news outlets that were saying the exact same things back in 2016, were suddenly saying now that any discussion like this is a threat against our democracy.
[49:47] Joshua Philipp: A threat against our democracy, and you shouldn't even begin to discuss this.
[49:51] Joshua Philipp: And anybody who tries to protest against it, well, this is insurrection.
[50:00] Joshua Philipp: narrative where the hypocrisy of all these same exact groups, I think, is shocking, one.
[50:06] Joshua Philipp: But two, I think that there is the issue that you can't change election laws like this.
[50:11] Joshua Philipp: You can't take the safeguards that are in place and just remove them and then not take steps afterwards to reassure people that problems didn't happen because you removed those safeguards.
[50:25] Joshua Philipp: And then so you have, of course, these audits and investigations taking place, And the federal government itself is trying to interfere with that now.
[50:32] Joshua Philipp: The Justice Department, targeting different individuals and groups, with lawsuits, and the media and big tech and big government working hand in hand to try to suppress any discussion about this.
[50:47] Joshua Philipp: And frankly, I think the American faith, the faith of the American people and the integrity of the system is really being shaken because of it.
[50:55] Kim Monson: So Josh, give us some hope on this because all this is concerning and daunting.
[51:08] Joshua Philipp: I do think you're going to see a lot of serious issues exposed by some of these audits.
[51:13] Joshua Philipp: Right now as we speak, the Arizona audit is moving towards completion.
[51:17] Joshua Philipp: They can't fully complete it yet because the local officials in Maricopa County and these voting machine companies are not cooperating with some of the requests for information they need to complete it.
[51:29] Joshua Philipp: The Arizona officials don't have a legal authority to request some of the information they're requesting.
[51:35] Joshua Philipp: But regardless of that, you do have a lot of the audit completed.
[51:39] Joshua Philipp: And I think the findings of this audit we'll see very soon.
[51:42] Joshua Philipp: But regardless of how that goes, you have other states now, I believe, over 16 considering similar audits.
[51:49] Joshua Philipp: You have different states across the united states putting in place high, you know, stronger standards on election integrity and the federal government.
[51:59] Joshua Philipp: Going forward, you're going to have two different narratives come out.
[52:02] Joshua Philipp: One is going to be that trump is going to getting, going to be getting behind this and the states are going to get, going to be getting behind it.
[52:08] Joshua Philipp: That the audits in different states are going to move forward, investigating what happened in the 2020 election.
[52:14] Joshua Philipp: States are going to be strengthening, strengthening their election laws.
[52:16] Joshua Philipp: And the findings from these audits are going to be released to the public.
[52:20] Joshua Philipp: The public is going to have some ability to look at this.
[52:23] Joshua Philipp: The other side of it is very likely you're going to see all the legacy news outlets, these big corporate media outlets, launching nonstop hit pieces against the federal government, that the Justice Department is going to be using lawsuits and so on to probably try to restrict some of these changes being made.
[52:39] Joshua Philipp: And you're going to have, of course, local officials probably getting sued by political action groups and so on, trying to present them or punish them in some ways when it comes to them trying to change their election laws and put additional safeguards in place.
[52:56] Joshua Philipp: But I think, on the positive side of it, very likely you are going to have a lot of the issues that took place in 2020 having a much more difficult path forward in terms of of doing the same thing again because of the changes to election laws and because of the audits.
[53:19] Kim Monson: Well, I think the great thing probably about the 2020 election is the fact that it's being brought to light, that we have had this ability possibly to affect elections.
[53:31] Kim Monson: And I think it looks like it may have, I mean, it didn't just happen overnight, Josh.
[53:36] Kim Monson: It looks to me like something that probably has been in play for some time.
[53:44] Joshua Philipp: Fully agreed, and that's, I think, the bigger question at play.
[53:49] Joshua Philipp: You know, the problem with investigating election fraud, though, is that typically the investigations need to be launched by the local government, which typically get into power through the local election system.
[54:00] Joshua Philipp: So it's not in their interest to investigate the very system that got them into power.
[54:06] Joshua Philipp: One of the big challenges we have in this country right now.
[54:10] Joshua Philipp: This is why, for example, in Arizona, you have the state officials investigating the county officials, essentially, but the county officials are trying to block it and using the powers of government they have as well to do so.
[54:25] Joshua Philipp: It's a bizarre situation, but I do think that while Republicans do control most of the state legislatures, Republican, the state legislatures, of course, under the Constitution are the ones that basically handle the elections.
[54:37] Joshua Philipp: And even if the federal government tries to intervene in that, their legal ability to do so is actually very limited.
[54:47] Joshua Philipp: It's going to be quite the drama to watch, and it's going to be starting very soon.
[54:51] Joshua Philipp: But I do think the Republican side of this has a lot more strength than maybe people realize.
[54:57] Kim Monson: Well, and I really do think that there are Democrats and Independents and Republicans, Conservatives across the spectrum, that they all, all of us, we all do want honest and fair and free elections for sure.
[55:11] Kim Monson: Josh Phillip, thank you so much for joining us.
[55:14] Kim Monson: You always have so much that we can learn from, and so I greatly appreciate you joining us today.
[55:24] Kim Monson: Okay, and our quote for today is from Mr.
[55:29] Kim Monson: He said, all I know to do is to light the candle that has been given to me.
[55:33] Kim Monson: So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[55:46] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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