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[00:44] Producer Steve: You put me in this pickle every Friday because all I can think about is 72 hours later.
[00:53] Producer Steve: No, there's a lot to be optimistic about.
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[01:00] Kim Monson: We are looking at these issues, trying to bring truth and clarity to these issues and also to talk about some positive, hopeful things, because my goodness gracious, are we not just being bombarded with with things that are putting fear and pessimism into us?
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[03:25] Kim Monson: As we look at these issues, we look at these issues as freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[03:29] Kim Monson: And socialism ultimately comes down to force.
[03:33] Kim Monson: And as driving in Steve today, I was thinking of things that I'm grateful for.
[03:37] Kim Monson: And one of them is: I'm very grateful that the veil is off on the real effects of government control and socialism right here in Colorado.
[03:48] Kim Monson: And if you want to know what socialism and the Green New Deal look like, this is what it looks like right now where there's empty shelves at the grocery store.
[04:03] Kim Monson: And capitalism is the thing that has provided more people, lifted them out of poverty and provided goods and services.
[04:11] Kim Monson: And so I'm very grateful that we are actually seeing what occurs under socialism and the Green New Deal.
[04:21] Kim Monson: Now, Patty and I have been talking, and there's so much fear-mongering out there in the news cycle that we wanted to share a couple of really great things.
[04:33] Kim Monson: People are putting their Christmas lights back up to spread cheer during this coronavirus.
[04:37] Kim Monson: And it says: a little Christmas cheer is good to keep your spirits up, even if it's in March and here I guess, according to people, lots of people are opting to put their Christmas lights back up in the last few days in an effort to help boost community morale in the wake of this Wuhan COVID-19 coronavirus.
[04:55] Kim Monson: Social media users have been using the hashtags hashtag lights for life and corona kindness and posting photos of their festive lights.
[05:06] Producer Steve: I don't want to put you in bad company, but you're right up there with Joe Biden.
[05:11] Producer Steve: The other day he made reference to his former job, and he called it the O'Biden-Bamaadministration.
[05:15] Producer Steve: You mean the fact that I'm having trouble pronouncing words today?
[05:21] Producer Steve: No, let's just carry on.
[05:22] Kim Monson: But, you know, I love the creativity.
[05:25] Kim Monson: And then, Steve, you came across an article that they're going to be lighting the Christmas star back up down in Castle Rock, I guess.
[05:33] Producer Steve: Hats off to the city council of Castle Rock.
[05:36] Producer Steve: That star was originally put up in 1936 as a beacon of hope during the Depression, and these people have basically dusted off that whole mindset and said, we need a symbol of hope for today, and they're going to light up the star.
[05:51] Producer Steve: I love it.
[05:53] Kim Monson: So let's jump in here with our inspiration, and this is from Rudyard Kipling.
[05:58] Kim Monson: He was an English journalist, short story writer, poet, and novelist.
[06:03] Kim Monson: He was born in India, which inspired much of his work.
[06:06] Kim Monson: His works of fiction include The Jungle Book, which was written in 1894, Kim in 1901, and many short stories, including The Man Who Would Be King, which he wrote in 1888.
[06:21] Kim Monson: It says he was, oh, you know, here we go.
[06:23] Kim Monson: He was born in 1865, and he died in 1936 at the age of 70.
[06:27] Kim Monson: And he says, I keep six honest serving men.
[06:34] Kim Monson: Their names are what and why, when and how, and where and who.
[06:38] Kim Monson: As we are going through all of this, I think that it's really important to be asking those questions.
[06:43] Kim Monson: Steve, are you ready for the funnies?
[06:45] Kim Monson: I'm going to go ahead and hit it here.
[06:46] Producer Steve: Oh, bless us.
[06:48] Kim Monson: Okay, the best thing about hand sanitizers isn't the hygiene.
[06:53] Kim Monson: It's that everyone walks around like they're hatching a dastardly plan.
[06:57] Kim Monson: So let's jump over here with Brad Beck, my good friend.
[07:00] Kim Monson: He is one of the co- foundersof Liberty Toastmasters.
[07:03] Kim Monson: And Brad Beck has come up with an idea in this time of the coronavirus.
[07:14] Kim Monson: You have come up with a very creative idea.
[07:20] Brad Beck: You know, I always like to start with yes.
[07:21] Brad Beck: And unfortunately, my daughter recently, one of my daughters was laid off from work.
[07:26] Brad Beck: She's in the hospitality industry.
[07:28] Brad Beck: And being a good dad, I gave her some money to tide her through.
[07:32] Brad Beck: But then I started thinking of all the thousands and thousands of folks out there in the hospitality industry, whether they're at a hotel, restaurant, bar, and how the heck are they going to get through this?
[07:43] Brad Beck: And so I decided to take a white envelope and put some money in it and stick it in the door with a little note that said, for your employees.
[07:53] Brad Beck: And so I did a little video on it, and I hashtagged it, the white envelope project.
[07:57] Brad Beck: and thought I'd do a little video, put it online, and boy, did I get a lot of folks responding and sharing all over the country.
[08:06] Brad Beck: And I think it's a great way for people to just say, hey, we appreciate you, and you'll get through this.
[08:13] Brad Beck: The restaurants hopefully will come back.
[08:14] Brad Beck: And it's a way to get those folks that work for tips.
[08:19] Brad Beck: And, you know, you can buy gift cards.
[08:21] Brad Beck: You can go in there and get takeout.
[08:22] Brad Beck: But they're going to need some money to get them through that, And I'm blessed that I have a job, at least today, and I can put in 5, 10, 15 bucks and give it to somebody else who is less fortunate at this time.
[08:36] Kim Monson: Well, and, you know, we are Americans, and that is typically how we've gotten through these things is by working together instead of looking to government to take care of everything.
[08:48] Kim Monson: And, you know, we've continued to see public policy that has moved more and more to more and more government control.
[08:54] Kim Monson: And I think on the short term, you know, what's happening in Washington, D.
[09:01] Kim Monson: C.,government in times of crisis, I think, should step in and try to, you know, reduce this panic.
[09:10] Kim Monson: I think a lot of this panic, though, is being fomented by politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties.
[09:15] Kim Monson: And so during this time, we need to stay calm.
[09:20] Kim Monson: And I think it would be great if people, you know, did just what you're doing with your white envelope project, Brad Beck.
[09:28] Brad Beck: Well, I think, you know, you've got to think different in these times.
[09:31] Brad Beck: One of the things I went back to is a great book I read years ago, and I'm rereading it chapter by chapter, from Michael Michalko, that's M- I-C-H-A-L-K-O,in his book Thinker Toys.
[09:46] Brad Beck: And it's how to think differently creatively in business.
[09:49] Brad Beck: And if you look at the ways that people are wallowing in all this news cycle of the Wuhan virus and how it's getting people depressed, you've got to look back and say, okay, what are your fears?
[10:03] Brad Beck: And then what's the opposite of fear?
[10:06] Brad Beck: And there's exercises in this book that I'm starting to use again to get my mind wrapped around it and to think creatively.
[10:14] Brad Beck: You know, every morning I get up and I read something positive.
[10:17] Brad Beck: I try to write something positive.
[10:23] Brad Beck: I'll try to get something going that's positive.
[10:26] Brad Beck: And one of my business gurus, Jeffrey Gidmer, does this every day.
[10:32] Brad Beck: And, you know, he's written dozens of books.
[10:35] Brad Beck: And it's amazing how if you look at the world positive, instead of turning on the news first thing you wake up, but do something for yourself.
[10:42] Brad Beck: Start with the most important person in the world, yourself.
[10:45] Brad Beck: And then you can do things for your family.
[10:48] Brad Beck: You can do things for your friends.
[10:50] Brad Beck: You can do things for your community.
[10:54] Brad Beck: And so I try to start with yes.
[10:55] Brad Beck: And what are the things I can do?
[10:57] Brad Beck: And what are the things that others can do to help people who are less fortunate than us?
[11:01] Kim Monson: Well, and as we go through this, this is day four of the restaurants being closed down.
[11:07] Kim Monson: I think in a couple of weeks we'll have a handle on what's really going on with this Wuhan virus.
[11:12] Kim Monson: And so, Brad Beck, thank you so much.
[11:14] Kim Monson: I'm going to get to see you virtually tomorrow for our Liberty Toastmasters meeting.
[11:19] Kim Monson: And I think that's going to be quite an adventure, Brad, so it'll be a lot of fun.
[11:25] Brad Beck: I've not done it before, so I'm looking forward to it as well.
[11:29] Kim Monson: Well, thank you so much, Brad Beck.
[11:30] Kim Monson: And he is a co- founderof Liberty Toastmasters.
[11:35] Kim Monson: Just go to Toastmasters, and I think you can find it there.
[11:43] Kim Monson: Before we do that, just as we know, we need to buckle down and, as Brad said, help our restaurants, bars, and taverns here in Colorado.
[11:49] Kim Monson: With Governor Polis and Mayor Hancock's edict to close dine- inoptions for individuals, restaurant workers are facing some lean times.
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[12:23] Kim Monson: When we come back, Colorado Representative Kim Ransom, my representative, she's a member of the Joint Budget Committee.
[12:30] Kim Monson: She has some updates on what is happening regarding the Colorado budget.
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[13:23] Kim Monson: I'm very pleased to have on the line with me my representative, and that is Kim Ransom.
[13:29] Kim Monson: She's on the Joint Budget Committee for down at the legislature and be sure and check out my show recap at my website from yesterday.
[13:41] Kim Monson: A second segment: Kim kind of set up what was going on with the budget and we are so jammed up with so much going on on the show.
[13:47] Kim Monson: You need to go back and listen to that because we need to talk about new things this morning.
[13:51] Kim Monson: So, representative Kim ransom, welcome, good Good morning Kim.
[13:56] Kim Monson: Thank you so much for having me again.
[13:58] Kim Monson: Yes, and we had talked a bit about the forecasts are certainly changing because of the edicts from Governor Polis and Mayor Hancock to basically shut down the hospitality industry, which is going to affect revenue.
[14:17] Kim Ransom: Well, first I need to just begin with letting you know that things change day to day.
[14:26] Kim Ransom: Actually, hour to hour things are changing.
[14:28] Kim Ransom: You probably heard yesterday afternoon that we have had a verified case of the virus diagnosed in one of the members in the legislature, meaning that pretty much everybody was exposed, potentially, potentially.
[14:44] Kim Ransom: I have to say nobody knows for sure when she actually came down with it, but in any event, we do wish her the best.
[14:56] Kim Ransom: I actually am hoping and praying for a swift recovery.
[14:58] Kim Ransom: But with all that, we are probably– well, I've actually received notification that we will not have the budget balanced on the 30th as we had originally been shooting for.
[15:11] Kim Ransom: So the budget committee was actually going to meet down at the Capitol all next week working on the final balancing efforts of making the cuts that we had to.
[15:23] Kim Ransom: And that has been delayed by at least a week.
[15:25] Kim Ransom: That being said, we still are working on it because obviously with things changing the way that they change, we cannot just wait for more numbers to come in.
[15:36] Kim Ransom: We need to be working with what we have now.
[15:38] Kim Ransom: So with that, I know I mentioned that we had received a forecast with some very much lowered expectations of revenue over the next quarter.
[16:09] Kim Ransom: And that once we started working with the numbers and looking at what we've already approved and bills that have been passed since last year that need that statutorily should be implemented, we are at a deficit of what we need.
[16:13] Kim Ransom: Excuse me, this is a lowered growth.
[16:14] Kim Ransom: Remember, I think we talked about that, that we're lowering the growth, the rate of growth, not necessarily lowering the total budget amount.
[16:24] Kim Ransom: It looks like we are going to have to cut out somewhere in the area of$ 900 million of what we had approved and what we thought we...
[16:41] Kim Ransom: So there will be cuts made in things that we've already approved this year, because remember, we've already gone through line item setting where we went through the budget line by line and voted on each line.
[17:00] Kim Ransom: We don't have the final number yet, somewhere in the range of 33 billion, yeah, 33 billion,$ 32 to$ 33 billion, somewhere in there.
[17:08] Kim Monson: Okay, but it does look like they'll have to be$ 900 million in cuts then.
[17:13] Kim Monson: So that means that some of the programs that may have, or the laws that have been passed putting in programs, there's not going to be money for that, and there's probably not going to be money for the new stuff that's being proposed down there, right?
[17:30] Kim Ransom: Anything new that bills that are currently in the pipe, bills that have been introduced and maybe even passed through one house, possibly even signed by the governor, if there's not money for them, they cannot be implemented.
[17:46] Kim Ransom: And so those are some hard decisions that the legislature has to make.
[17:50] Kim Ransom: And remember, the Joint Budget Committee proposes a budget, but the legislature still must vote on it and approve it.
[17:57] Kim Ransom: So there is a process still ahead of us to get this done, to get this finalized.
[18:03] Kim Monson: Okay, so the Joint Budget Committee is proposing this budget.
[18:07] Kim Monson: What does that deliberation look like by the representatives then?
[18:20] Kim Ransom: Once the Joint Budget Committee comes up with the proposed budget, which we are required to do, then it goes to this year.
[18:29] Kim Ransom: It goes to the house first it and we we rotate that.
[18:32] Kim Ransom: So last year the senate started, this year the house will start it and the house gets it for a full week because, remember- it has to be introduced.
[18:39] Kim Ransom: It has to be heard in at least one committee.
[18:42] Kim Ransom: It has to then receive second reading on the floor.
[18:45] Kim Ransom: That is where all of the members are able to propose amendments.
[18:54] Kim Ransom: It often lasts 8, 10, 12 hours of debates, proposing sometimes 100 or more amendments to the budget because every member wants to look.
[19:06] Kim Ransom: They want to look at items that affect their district.
[19:10] Kim Ransom: They want to look at items that are part of their belief system, part of their agenda, what people came to the Capitol to try to accomplish.
[19:20] Kim Ransom: So everybody offers, everybody has the opportunity to offer amendments.
[19:25] Kim Ransom: Those are debated and voted on, on second reading, and then the entire budget on a different, on a separate day from second reading, on third reading will be the final passage, which is the recorded vote.
[19:37] Kim Ransom: Those are the, where our names light up on the board.
[19:42] Kim Ransom: So generally, it's one week in the House and then one week in the Senate to go through all those steps.
[19:51] Kim Monson: When does this have to be ready to go?
[19:54] Kim Ransom: Well, the current fiscal year ends June 30th.
[19:58] Kim Ransom: So we have to have this, the budget we're working on now must be ready to fly July 1st or we will not have a budget.
[20:11] Kim Ransom: And I don't think that's ever happened in the state of Colorado.
[20:15] Kim Ransom: I think we've always had a budget ready.
[20:17] Kim Ransom: So theoretically, we want to have it done within the next few weeks here.
[20:21] Kim Ransom: But at the same time, if people are sick and we cannot reconvene, it won't happen right away in early April.
[20:34] Kim Monson: So then let's say if you didn't get the budget done, tell us about a special session then, because they'd probably have to do that, wouldn't they, to get this passed or what would happen?
[20:44] Kim Ransom: Yes, and that is actually on the table as well.
[20:50] Kim Ransom: If we cannot come back, if additional shelter-in-place type orders come down as part of the governor's executive order ability and we cannot reconvene, then if we do get to the end of the session and we are done for the year, yes, the governor can call a special session and he can just do it by executive order, but he has to have it for a specific reason.
[21:21] Kim Ransom: It cannot just be a continuation of the current session.
[21:29] Kim Ransom: When our current session ends, all the bills currently there just die.
[21:34] Kim Ransom: Everything just dies on the calendar, the special session has to be for a specific reason.
[21:39] Kim Ransom: And in this case, I think it would be to pass a budget.
[21:43] Kim Ransom: And so we would be dealing only with the budget and then budget related bills.
[21:48] Kim Ransom: You know, we have what are called orbital bills, where sometimes we have to pass a bill just to allocate or move money because sometimes things have to be done statutorily.
[21:59] Kim Ransom: Like when we transfer money to and from capital development or to and from a statutory reserve like the educational reserve fund, those types of things, we need to have an orbital bill that comes alongside the long bill.
[22:15] Kim Monson: So, Kim Ransom, this session is supposed to adjourn on May 6th.
[22:20] Kim Monson: Now, can you continue out on that or does it stop on May 6th?
[22:26] Kim Ransom: Well, historically, it's always adjourned 120 days after it started.
[22:34] Kim Ransom: The Constitution says 120 calendar days is all that the legislature can run, and then it must adjourn.
[22:44] Kim Ransom: The issue is, are calendar days consecutive?
[22:47] Kim Ransom: Now, historical precedent would say yes.
[22:52] Kim Ransom: The Constitution says calendar days.
[22:55] Kim Ransom: We have always, as long as I've been involved in politics, that's always meant calendar days.
[23:01] Kim Ransom: However, excuse me, consecutive calendar days is what it's always meant.
[23:06] Kim Ransom: Well, we have turned in an interrogatory request to the state Supreme Court asking for an opinion to see if the fact that we have stopped for a period of two weeks, which will, as I've said, will likely be extended to three or more weeks.
[23:25] Kim Ransom: Can then we start and stop that 120 day process?
[23:29] Kim Ransom: That is still up in the air until the state Supreme Court comes back with their interrogatory, with their opinion, with their response to us.
[23:39] Kim Ransom: We won't know if we can go past the six or not.
[23:42] Kim Monson: Now, I thought there was some kind of statute that said it was consecutive days.
[23:51] Kim Ransom: I believe that the word is actually calendar days.
[23:56] Kim Ransom: But again, because I looked this up yesterday, and it's calendar, but again, it's always been, the historical precedent back to, I think, the late 80s have always meant consecutive.
[24:13] Kim Ransom: And by the way, when they passed the original law that said 120 days in a row is all that the legislature can last, one of the sponsors on that was our former Senator Wayne Allard, who is actually going to be offering part of the opinion saying that those days were meant to be consecutive, not just calendar days that can start and stop at will.
[24:42] Kim Monson: Okay, well that's going to be really interesting because I see something I think very positive about this.
[24:48] Kim Monson: And that is that if a bill has not been voted on, passed up to the governor's desk and signed into law, it very well may die.
[24:58] Kim Monson: And there is a lot of really overreaching things that have been proposed.
[25:08] Kim Monson: And then we've always talked about limiting government, and this is kind of a self-limiting thing with the edicts from Polis and Hancock, because I'm sure our sales tax revenues are going to be down significantly.
[25:23] Kim Monson: And so, you know, the lowered revenue means that there's going to have to be some choices made on how that money is spent.
[25:29] Kim Monson: And I think that this is, you know, that's a couple of positive things.
[25:37] Kim Ransom: I think that that is very well stated.
[25:39] Kim Ransom: And don't forget, not just sales tax revenue will be down, income tax revenue will be down, too, because people will have lower incomes, even if they're just out of work for a few weeks or a month.
[25:53] Kim Monson: With that, there is one caution that I would like to make sure that we have on our listeners' minds, and that is the progressives are going to try to have a ballot question.
[26:03] Kim Monson: In fact, we'll be talking with Rick Turnquist about this.
[26:07] Kim Monson: that would be a quote unquote progressive income tax.
[26:09] Kim Monson: So it would be, you know, taxing the rich.
[26:15] Kim Monson: So I think that, you know, there might be some politics that are being played on all this as well with all the hurt that is being fomented upon people from these.
[26:23] Kim Monson: I really think that they're overreaching.
[26:25] Kim Monson: I think a more measured response on this Kim ransom by the governor and by the mayor would have been, you know, we don't quite know what's going on out there.
[26:35] Kim Monson: We're going to take a two-week cautionary pause here, and then we'll reassess.
[26:40] Kim Monson: But instead, when you say we're closing something for eight weeks or, you know, till April 30th, that really scares people.
[26:47] Kim Monson: And I'm very concerned about that particular narrative.
[26:50] Kim Monson: So, Kim Ransom, anything else you want to say?
[26:53] Kim Ransom: I just want to thank the taxpayers once again and the voters for voting down RepCC last November.
[27:01] Kim Ransom: I'm so glad that you, the voters, and the taxpayers of Colorado, you know, have that extra money in your pocket versus the government having it.
[27:11] Kim Ransom: So thank you to the taxpayers once again and the voters.
[27:14] Kim Monson: And thank you, Kim Ransom, Colorado representative, and for all the time you're spending on the Joint Budget Committee.
[27:21] Kim Monson: We're going to talk to you again next Tuesday morning at the same time for an update.
[27:26] Kim Monson: So stay calm and carry on, Kim Ransom.
[27:34] Kim Monson: Jason McBride, Presidential Wealth Management.
[27:38] Kim Monson: How are you doing this morning, Jason?
[27:41] Jason McBride: Well, it's cold and we got our big March snow, huh?
[27:44] Kim Monson: You know, it's a beautiful life-giving snow.
[27:48] Kim Monson: It's that heavy moisture, you know, which I always look at these as life-giving snows.
[27:52] Kim Monson: I also, you know, I'm from rural Kansas.
[27:56] Kim Monson: It always seems to be that cows birth their calves during snowstorms.
[28:02] Kim Monson: I don't know why that's the case, but that always seems to be the case, Jason McBride.
[28:06] Jason McBride: Well, you know, and I always try to get a good shot of fertilizer and crabgrass killer on my lawn early, and I did it like two days before, so this giant, huge snow will just water it right in.
[28:24] Kim Monson: Now you could just say you're brilliant, Jason.
[28:37] Jason McBride: Well, I think there's a couple of interesting things.
[28:40] Jason McBride: I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I see a little bit of positive here in the last three days.
[28:59] Jason McBride: But we had a nice rally at the end of the day, and the NASDAQ closed in the upper part of its range for the day.
[29:06] Jason McBride: And then yesterday we had a pretty decent up day, again with the market closing in the upper part of its range.
[29:16] Jason McBride: So this is a market to me that looks like it's trying to find a bottom.
[29:23] Jason McBride: If we could get another really powerful update, you know, either today or Monday or Tuesday, sometime in the next few days, and the NASDAQ would hold above the low it made on Thursday, then I think we might be in for some kind of a bounce or a rally.
[29:47] Jason McBride: I don't know if it would be the complete bottom because you never know what kind of news could come out to mess us up again, Kim.
[29:54] Jason McBride: But the action over the last three days I have found interesting, and I think there's some buyers coming back in.
[30:00] Kim Monson: Well, and the thing about it is American business is really kind of on sale right now because of this pressure in the stock market.
[30:09] Kim Monson: And so there's very good companies that you can buy at a much cheaper price than a few weeks ago.
[30:16] Kim Monson: And so I think that sitting down with you and your colleagues at Presidential Wealth Management, you know, and really taking a look at opportunities right now is a really good idea, Jason McBride.
[30:26] Jason McBride: Well, I think, yeah, it's going to be hard to sit down with us because we're not having people.
[30:34] Jason McBride: And again, if you have some cash laying around and Britt Hume said it very well the other night.
[30:42] Jason McBride: He said, if you have some cash, some guts and some time, this might be a good time to think about adding in a little to good, solid American businesses that are on sale and, you know, are unlikely to shutter their doors permanently.
[30:58] Kim Monson: So a conversation with you, Jason, and your colleagues, you can reach you at 303-694-1600, 303-694-1600, or go to our landing page.
[31:16] Jason McBride: I wanted to give a shout out to a couple of businesses that I found to be very positive recently.
[31:25] Kim Monson: I've got Rick Turnquist waiting, but I like the good news, so let's hear it.
[31:36] Jason McBride: Number one, the big O here off of Castle Pines.
[31:48] Jason McBride: You know, the management there, the ownership changed.
[31:51] Jason McBride: And I'll say it was a little bumpy over there for a couple of years, but this young kid, Stephen, at the Big O Tires off I-25 in Castle Pines, he is a really, really good guy.
[32:07] Jason McBride: He takes care of you, makes you feel really, really comfortable, and I think he's to be commended.
[32:22] Jason McBride: I went over yesterday morning right when they opened, Kim.
[32:26] Jason McBride: I just wanted to see what the store looked like, you know, to kind of get a gauge.
[32:30] Jason McBride: And I'll tell you, the people working there did such a good job while people were waiting for the doors to open.
[32:37] Jason McBride: I think, you know, a couple of the managers were out there.
[32:40] Jason McBride: They were talking to everybody when the doors opened.
[32:49] Jason McBride: They really handled things well and uh you know, with with the craziness, I think they're doing just a great job up there.
[32:58] Jason McBride: And uh yeah, it was a just interesting to see that and also to to the people.
[33:04] Jason McBride: Probably about a hundred people came in and you know, to to to all of us.
[33:09] Jason McBride: It was neat to see nobody was fighting over things or being rude or freaking out.
[33:15] Kim Monson: Well, and just to add on that, I stopped at the walmart over on.
[33:20] Kim Monson: Hamden after I left the studio yesterday afternoon.
[33:22] Kim Monson: And again, the people that were working there, so nice and so courteous, as well as the patrons.
[33:33] Kim Monson: And driving over here this morning, I saw trucks that were out there delivering goods to different businesses.
[33:40] Kim Monson: And we need to thank our trucking industry and these truckers that that are working so hard.
[33:49] Kim Monson: So Jason McBride, thank you for those positive thoughts.
[33:52] Jason McBride: Yeah, let's stay positive and let's hope the market is positive today.
[34:02] Kim Monson: And when we come back, Rick Turnquist, he is an author and blogger and he writes in our, he's contributes to our writer circle.
[34:10] Kim Monson: He's written a really important piece.
[34:17] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll be right back with Rick Turnquist.
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[35:09] Kim Monson: Be sure and check out my website, That is KimMonson.
[35:15] Kim Monson: And in fact, Punishing Success, Rick Turnquist, very important op-ed, is at my website, KimMonson.
[35:23] Kim Monson: Rick Turnquist, welcome to the show.
[35:25] Rick Turnquist: Good morning, Kim, and thank you for hosting me this morning.
[35:29] Rick Turnquist: It's unfortunate we're not able to be together in studio, but it's nice to have the technology to be able to call in.
[35:35] Kim Monson: I'm very grateful for that, Rick Turnquist.
[35:38] Kim Monson: But I love it when you're in studio, so we'll do that next month.
[35:41] Kim Monson: But this piece that you have written, you do such a great job in taking a narrative and really explaining what's going to happen.
[35:50] Kim Monson: So where do you want to start with this piece that you've done, Punishing Success?
[35:54] Rick Turnquist: Well, I kind of actually want to start off with just a comment to add on to what Jason was talking about just now.
[36:01] Rick Turnquist: And add my thanks and kudos for King Soopers and Walmart and Target and all the people who are hardworking people who are getting up and going to work every day through the midst of this crisis and really keeping us alive with keeping items on the shelves.
[36:22] Rick Turnquist: And, you know, I recognize, you know, I haven't seen any people being ugly.
[36:25] Rick Turnquist: I've seen, you know, people that are, you know, giving each other space and all that.
[36:28] Rick Turnquist: So I just want to extend my kudos to my fellow Coloradans and all of our grocery store workers as well.
[36:36] Kim Monson: Thank you to all of you hardworking Coloradans out there.
[36:39] Kim Monson: And being industrious, working hard are some of the ingredients for success, for people to get ahead, to start to create wealth.
[36:49] Kim Monson: And it looks like there may be those in Colorado that are going to try to have something on the ballot this November that would punish hard work and being industrious and taking risk.
[37:02] Rick Turnquist: And so we talked about when I wrote the blog, The Battles Ahead, you know, I talked about this group called Vision 2020.
[37:10] Rick Turnquist: And the groups involved in that are the Bell Policy Center and the Colorado Fiscal Institute and several of the other.
[37:18] Rick Turnquist: If you listen to their meeting that I linked in that blog piece, there's several other groups that are involved in that.
[37:24] Rick Turnquist: That's part of the progressive infrastructure I wrote about last year and published on my blog to advance freedom.
[37:30] Rick Turnquist: And they've dropped the idea of putting a repeal of Tabor on the ballot because they know that that would fail.
[37:39] Rick Turnquist: But what they want to put on the ballot instead, and so now this initiative 271 is out for signatures right now.
[37:45] Rick Turnquist: So I'd encourage all of your listeners to, if they're asked to sign this Initiative 271 about policy changes pertaining to state income taxes, to politely say no to the signature gatherer and walk away because this one's immoral and will produce unintended consequences.
[38:06] Kim Monson: And so be sure, and just say no to that, and bear in mind that typically these petition gatherers are paid per signature that they receive.
[38:16] Kim Monson: And so just say no when you are asked to sign that one.
[38:20] Kim Monson: But on the other hand, due date too late was a totally organic no paid signatures.
[38:26] Kim Monson: This is hopefully going to be on the ballot regarding no abortions after 22 weeks, with just kind of some limited things on that.
[38:37] Kim Monson: So but on this one say no to number 271 policy changes pertaining to state income taxes.
[38:44] Rick Turnquist: Well, currently in Colorado, we have what's known as a flat income tax, and basically what that means is every, every person who earns money in Colorado that pays Colorado income taxes is taxed at a flat rate of 4..
[38:58] Rick Turnquist: 63 percent And when the so just a little bit of historical note here, Kim, the last time that the Democrats had full control of our state legislature back in the 1930s, in 1937, they they enacted the income tax in Colorado.
[39:16] Rick Turnquist: And at first it was a graduated income tax rate, just like the federal government has.
[39:21] Rick Turnquist: And then back in the 1980s, I wrote about the history of this in one of my other blogs, but back in the 1980s, that was set at a flat rate of 5%, and then it was lowered, thanks to Tabor, to the current 4.
[39:37] Rick Turnquist: But under the Initiative 271, if that goes into effect, what would happen is a graduated tax is imposed on federal taxable income as determined pursuant to 63 of the Internal Revenue Code of every individual estate and trust with greater tax rates applying to higher income brackets, and each tax rate applying only to the income bracket for that tax rate as follows.
[39:58] Rick Turnquist: And so for federal taxable income up to$ 250,000, the Colorado income tax rate would go down slightly to 4.
[40:09] Rick Turnquist: If you earn more than$ 250,001 up to half a million dollars a year, your Colorado income tax rate goes up to seven.
[40:18] Rick Turnquist: If you earn over$ 500,001 to a million dollars, your income tax rate is 7.
[40:24] Rick Turnquist: And people are earning over a million dollars a year.
[40:27] Rick Turnquist: And in my table in the blog, in 2016, there's 1,200 people that were in that bracket.
[40:42] Rick Turnquist: Now, I'm an accountant, and I can do math pretty darn well.
[40:46] Rick Turnquist: And when I calculated what that tax rate is for those people, it's actually 15.
[40:53] Rick Turnquist: And these rates would be subject to adjustment every year by this percentage change in Colorado personal income.
[41:01] Rick Turnquist: This initiative would also create a so- calledFair Tax Review Commission, and nobody can see my air quotes, but I'm doing that.
[41:08] Rick Turnquist: Twenty- fivemembers appointed by legislative leadership and the governor.
[41:14] Rick Turnquist: And, of course, all the appointments have to check all the left's favorite identity politics checkboxes.
[41:18] Rick Turnquist: The initiative says, in making appointments, the governor shall ensure that the membership of the commission includes persons who reflect the ethnic, cultural, and gender diversity of the state, and to the extent practicable, persons with disabilities.
[41:49] Rick Turnquist: And the commission will be charged with reporting prior to a date you know, 10, 11 years from now.
[41:40] Rick Turnquist: State revenue and funding for public services provided by the state, distribution of income among taxpayers and the business climate or the the ability of the state to attract and retain business.
[41:52] Rick Turnquist: And I would just say as a side note, you know, based on the way our current legislature is going, you know colorado is becoming more unfriendly to business all the time.
[42:03] Kim Monson: But I thought that we're supposed to be a representative government.
[42:10] Kim Monson: Yeah, this is unelected people that's going to be making these decisions.
[42:15] Kim Monson: They're unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats.
[42:17] Kim Monson: And to get 25 people to agree on something is pretty tricky.
[42:23] Kim Monson: But the fact that they're not accountable to the voter, just say no on that.
[42:33] Rick Turnquist: And so this, you know, and the Colorado Sun wrote an article I linked it.
[42:39] Rick Turnquist: It's very, I think it's very biased in favor of this initiative, and I find that disappointing.
[42:43] Rick Turnquist: And that's why I didn't, you know, talk about it further or reference specific things.
[42:50] Rick Turnquist: But according to that article, they say this tax code change is expected to raise an estimated$ 2 billion in new tax revenues.
[42:58] Rick Turnquist: And according to the language of the initiative, at least 50% ofthese new revenues are going to be allocated to education, as usual, to recruit, retain, and pay teachers and student service providers.
[43:10] Rick Turnquist: And the other 50% goes toa vague and undefined purpose, which is to be appropriated and expended to address the impacts of a growing population and a changing economy.
[43:22] Rick Turnquist: So they're not even using the usual false flag of transportation or anything else.
[43:32] Rick Turnquist: And you had Kim Ransom on earlier in the show today, and we're so lucky to have her as our representative and to have her serving on the Joint Budget Committee, because she gives us really good insights into that.
[43:45] Rick Turnquist: But, you know, I did an extensive amount of research on the budget last fall, and I have my spreadsheet open right now on my monitor.
[43:55] Rick Turnquist: And, you know, the Colorado state budget has grown by an average of 6% over the last10 years.
[44:14] Rick Turnquist: So the fact that they're not going to have enough time to pass a lot more bills and this virus is a terrible thing, but people look for silver linings and the fact that they are out of session for a while is, in my opinion, one silver lining.
[44:34] Kim Monson: So, number two reason to vote against this is because the 50% of the money isvague.
[44:43] Kim Monson: And also, probably some things in the other 50%, when they say recruit, retain, pay teachers and student service providers, I mean, that's pretty vague as well.
[44:53] Kim Monson: But Rick, we need to go to a quick break.
[44:55] Kim Monson: Stay through the break and we'll continue on with this very important piece that you can find at Kim Monson dot com.
[45:03] Kim Monson: This is a very important piece by Rick Turnquist.
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[46:13] Kim Monson: On the line with me is Rick Turnquist.
[46:14] Kim Monson: go to my website, Kim Monson, M- O- N- S- O- N.
[46:18] Kim Monson: comtoreadRick'sop-ed, Punishing Success.
[46:20] Kim Monson: And justvery quickly, Rick, I think that one of the narratives out there on trying to get this thing passed is that the rich should pay their fair share.
[46:33] Kim Monson: So what they're doing, I think, is really insidious.
[46:36] Kim Monson: They're saying for 90, you know 95% of the people out there,you're going to get an income decrease and then we're going to increase the taxes on the rich.
[46:46] Kim Monson: You have a table in your op- ed that really talks about this,explains it.
[46:51] Kim Monson: But talk about this whole fair share people paying their fair share narrative.
[46:57] Rick Turnquist: Well, that's a great point, and you know that's why I think this is kind of actually an immoral concept, because you know, people who earn more money by definition pay more in taxes.
[47:11] Rick Turnquist: And if you look at this table, this table is Colorado government data, which I just added a calculation at the bottom of the table and hid some columns to make it fit on the page here.
[47:27] Rick Turnquist: But this table shows that in 2016, which is the last year the data is available for, there's 1, 199 people who earned a milliondollars and over.
[47:39] Rick Turnquist: I would be willing to bet my next paycheck that Polis and Stryker and Tim Gill and Rhett Bridges are four of those 1, 199 people who earned more thana million dollars.
[47:54] Rick Turnquist: 8% of total returns, but theypay8% of the total taxes paid in thestate.
[48:04] Rick Turnquist: 22%, which is people earning$ 200, 000 andover, and let's face it, aprofessional couple that both have good jobs are going to be in that bracket.
[48:15] Rick Turnquist: They're going to earn over$ 200, 000 a year or have federal ADI ofover$ 200, 000 a year.
[48:24] Rick Turnquist: The top three brackets are 20 of the taxpayers and they pay, uh, uh, they pay, you know, a disproportionate amount of tax right.
[48:37] Kim Monson: 22 percent would pay almost 20 of theincome tax.
[48:41] Kim Monson: That doesn't seem fair to me, yeah, and that's with a flat rate.
[48:46] Rick Turnquist: So what they want to do is they want to grossly punish people who earn more than a million dollars a year.
[48:52] Rick Turnquist: And, you know, when you think about that, you know, people respond to incentives.
[48:58] Rick Turnquist: And, you know, this is why when progressives always want to raise taxes, you know, on the successful, because it's, you know, as you and I have talked about, their politics is based on envy and greed, really.
[49:12] Rick Turnquist: And they think that these people are going to just sit around and happily pay more in taxes than they need to.
[49:21] Rick Turnquist: And the fact of the matter is that wealthy people have the means to live anywhere they want.
[49:29] Rick Turnquist: It's called An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of States and How Taxes, Energy, and Worker Freedom Change Everything.
[49:37] Rick Turnquist: And there's documented proof in this book that states that have higher income tax regimes do more poorly economically than states that don't have income taxes.
[49:45] Rick Turnquist: And Colorado, in so many ways, is just going in the wrong direction.
[50:00] Rick Turnquist: You know, wealthy people will find themselves being punished for their success.
[50:08] Rick Turnquist: And they're going to take their incomes, their adjusted gross incomes, and they're going to leave the state altogether.
[50:17] Rick Turnquist: Some people will stay no matter what and just, you know, grin and bear it or find tax avoidance strategies.
[50:23] Rick Turnquist: Yeah, or they'll find tax avoidance strategies, which are available because it's all based on federal taxable income.
[50:30] Rick Turnquist: But they'll find ways to lower their tax bills or they'll move out of the state altogether.
[50:35] Rick Turnquist: So this dream of an extra$ 2 billion to spend 50%of it in some random slush fund is just not going to materialize because people aren't going to voluntarily pay more taxes.
[50:48] Rick Turnquist: And if the Gang of Four wants to pay more taxes, then they're certainly willing, you know, they certainly have the ability to write a check to the Treasury.
[50:55] Rick Turnquist: And anybody that wants to pay more in taxes can write a check to the Treasury.
[50:59] Kim Monson: Yeah, but actually, typically, they don't want to pay more in taxes.
[51:03] Kim Monson: They just want somebody else to do that.
[51:06] Kim Monson: And, you know, Rick, Colorado had been boasting a very good economy until we had these edicts from Governor Polis and Mayor Hancock, which has really shut down business.
[51:17] Kim Monson: I really think they could have had a much more measured approach to this whole Wuhan virus thing.
[51:23] Kim Monson: But one of the things that has, I think, been a real contributing factor of which these radical activists, Dems, have wanted to take credit for the economy, but it is the fact that we have had Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, that has at least kept this whole government taxation and intervention somewhat checked.
[51:45] Kim Monson: and they like to say it's because of them, but I would submit it to you.
[51:49] Kim Monson: It's because we have had the Colorado Taxpayers Bill of Rights and we have had a flat and fair tax.
[51:58] Rick Turnquist: And they boast about the great economy in Colorado.
[52:02] Rick Turnquist: And Colorado's economy, as we looked at it in another blog post, is doing well, but it's not certainly the top economy in the state.
[52:10] Rick Turnquist: And, you know, it is due to Tabor that we are as successful as we are.
[52:15] Rick Turnquist: But, you know, they want to do away with Tabor, and they're going to take a repeal off the ballot because they know it won't pass.
[52:22] Rick Turnquist: But they're going to try this insidious and immoral tax increase on the rich instead.
[52:31] Rick Turnquist: And when you talk about income taxes, punishing the people who earn that much money, these people are successful business owners and these businesses provide jobs to Coloradans.
[52:46] Rick Turnquist: They're people who are maybe a successful physician or a successful entrepreneur of some nature, a successful investor, or in the case of Pat Stryker, somebody who inherited their billions and didn't do anything to earn it.
[53:04] Rick Turnquist: So, you know, these people are being punished unjustly for the fact that they have more income than other people, and I find that to be gross.
[53:12] Rick Turnquist: And let's face it, you know, in the United States, you know, our income tax started in 1913 with a 1% taxon net personal incomes over$ 3, 000, whichis$ 78, 000 intoday's dollars.
[53:27] Rick Turnquist: With a surtax, which Initiative 271 has, of 6% on incomesover half a million dollars.
[53:35] Rick Turnquist: And the tax bracket, it never stays the way it is when it's enacted.
[53:42] Rick Turnquist: The tax rate for the top bracket continued to grow until it was 92% in 1950.
[53:48] Rick Turnquist: But if Initiative 271 passes, a person in Colorado earning a million dollars or more would have to pay a combined 52.
[53:56] Rick Turnquist: 58% income tax, whichrepresentsover half of what they earn.
[54:02] Rick Turnquist: And I ask the question, how can it be right or moral to make somebody 50% a slave simply by amajority vote of the people?
[54:09] Rick Turnquist: And uh, that's that's where I I think I would have you know wrap it up for for that discussion is is: how can you make somebody half a slave?
[54:18] Rick Turnquist: Uh, simply because the majority votes that way and I.
[54:21] Rick Turnquist: That's why I encourage everybody to vote no or to not sign this thing, and if it does get on the ballot, to uh, to vote no.
[54:32] Kim Monson: It's punishing success, and youalluded to it under socialism.
[54:35] Kim Monson: It's something that's based on envy that wants to take other people's stuff because they envy it and they don't want them to have it.
[54:44] Kim Monson: Whereas with capitalism and the American idea, it's you look at somebody that's very successful instead of wanting to take their stuff or say they can't have it as you say, if they did it, I can do it.
[54:56] Kim Monson: So let's be industrious and let's work hard, which is the American idea.
[55:00] Kim Monson: Rick Turnquist, it's always just such a treat to have you on the show.
[55:06] Kim Monson: So hopefully we'll get to do that again next month.
[55:07] Kim Monson: But thank you so much for this very important piece.
[55:10] Kim Monson: Well, thank you, Kim, and stay healthy and safe.
[55:13] Kim Monson: And today, my friends, be grateful.
[55:24] Kim Monson: Strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[55:32] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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