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[02:23] Kim Monson: And it could be a concise statement of a principle.
[02:26] Kim Monson: Number two, a terse formulation of a truth or sentiment.
[02:31] Kim Monson: And three, I would say an ingeniously terse style of expression.
[02:36] Kim Monson: And if you were aware of the interaction between Donald Trump and, gosh, now I think it was, I was thinking it was the governor of Maine, but it was one of the New England states.
[02:53] Kim Monson: And you can text me if you can remember which one it was- where she said that, basically, we're not going to abide by your policies regarding illegal immigration.
[03:04] Kim Monson: And she said, we'll see you in court.
[03:08] Kim Monson: And Donald Trump said, I like court.
[03:11] Kim Monson: So I would say that his reaction was an aphorism on that.
[03:15] Kim Monson: So your challenge is to use the word aphorism in a sentence today, A-P-H-O-R-I-S-M.
[03:22] Kim Monson: Our quote of the day is from Michelangelo.
[03:27] Kim Monson: He was an Italian sculptor, painter, and architect.
[03:32] Kim Monson: He was also a poet of the High Renaissance.
[03:36] Kim Monson: He was born in the Republic of Florence.
[03:37] Kim Monson: and his work was inspired by models from the classical antiquity, had a lasting influence on Western art, and he achieved fame early.
[03:47] Kim Monson: Two of his best works, the Pieda and David, were sculpted before the age of 30.
[03:53] Kim Monson: And he said this, he said, The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it.
[04:04] Kim Monson: So I'm hoping, Joe, do we have Greg Lopez on the line yet?
[04:11] Greg Lopez: No, ma'am,we do not, but I'm working on it.
[04:14] Kim Monson: I am broadcasting from home, so I cannot see Joe.
[04:18] Kim Monson: So that's, you seem to have a little problem on that.
[04:22] Kim Monson: Okay, let's get through some of these headlines.
[04:26] Kim Monson: And this was one of the things that I wanted to talk with Greg Lopez about.
[04:31] Kim Monson: and that was that Vivek Ramaswamy declares his candidacy for Ohio governor.
[04:38] Kim Monson: And so hopefully we'll be talking with Greg about that in just a moment as he was back there for that announcement.
[04:48] Kim Monson: Next thing I just wanted to mention is there is manufacturing that will be coming back to America, and Apple unveils a historic$ 500 billion investment in U.
[05:03] Kim Monson: And so Donald Trump is making America great again, bringing back manufacturing.
[05:09] Kim Monson: And I wanted to talk with a former congressman from Congressional District 4, and that is Greg Lopez.
[05:24] Kim Monson: And you've been traveling, haven't you?
[05:28] Greg Lopez: You know, I was in Ohio, you know, with my good friend Vivek Ramaswamy as he was announcing his candidacy for governor.
[05:38] Kim Monson: And you and he got to know each other when you were back in Washington as you were completing the term of Ken Buck for Congressional District 4..
[05:51] Kim Monson: And so you and Vivek got to know each other.
[05:55] Greg Lopez: You know, we got to spend some time together on the Doge committee.
[05:58] Greg Lopez: You know, as you know, he was one of the him and Elon Musk were the ones that President Trump identified to help him with what was going on with the fraud, waste and abuse in the government.
[06:08] Greg Lopez: And so we had an opportunity to meet each other and had a conversation.
[06:16] Greg Lopez: And when he told me he was going to be running for governor in Ohio, he said, hey, would you mind coming out?
[06:23] Greg Lopez: And so, you know, Lisa and I, my wife, were out there, and it was a pleasure to be out there with him and say some words on his behalf at his events.
[06:32] Kim Monson: And do the people of Ohio seem pretty excited about this?
[06:39] Greg Lopez: You know, the energy is unbelievable.
[06:40] Greg Lopez: I mean, he has such a great following, and more importantly, he's got a great message.
[06:46] Greg Lopez: He's got a great message about the American dream and how important it is for us to make sure that we understand that it's alive and well, that we need to bring it back.
[06:56] Greg Lopez: And that, you know, individualism and independence, it's important.
[07:00] Greg Lopez: And more importantly, the opportunities that America has to offer to everyone.
[07:06] Greg Lopez: His parents are first- time,first- generationAmerican.
[07:10] Greg Lopez: And he's really excited about what's going to happen in Ohio.
[07:21] Greg Lopez: So I know that you were tapped to help with that.
[07:37] Greg Lopez: What's your role in that, Greg Lopez?
[07:27] Greg Lopez: Well, you know what, with the executive order that President Trump signed and having it put under the White House, most people that are involved with DOGE have to be federal employees to be able to be a part of that.
[07:38] Greg Lopez: So I'm not looking to be a federal employee because I get other aspirations, but I am still involved with staying in touch with some of the representatives that sit on the caucus.
[07:49] Greg Lopez: So, you know, I'm kind of like everybody else now.
[07:51] Greg Lopez: I'm taking a step backwards back, I should say, and letting them watch what they're doing like everybody else.
[07:57] Greg Lopez: But, you know, while I was there, it was a pleasure to be working with them.
[08:01] Kim Monson: Well, and so you were there in Washington for what was it, about six months, pretty historical time that you were there, Greg Lopez.
[08:09] Kim Monson: And of course, you were back there for the you were there for the inauguration as well, right?
[08:21] Greg Lopez: I was fortunate enough to be in the rotunda to watch the exchange of power between the two, President Biden and President Trump.
[08:30] Greg Lopez: And it's just amazing to watch the transfer of power in our nation.
[08:38] Kim Monson: There is this, however, I think, Greg Lopez, that the radical activists have finally gotten organized.
[08:45] Kim Monson: I think that they had no idea what hit them the first four weeks of, I'm calling it Trump 2.
[08:50] Kim Monson: But they are now getting organized on all of this and all of these protests.
[08:57] Kim Monson: So they're not really trying, I think they're really trying to undercut this presidency.
[09:01] Kim Monson: But, Greg, I find it so interesting because I think that Trump acted so quickly in all of these reports regarding what Doge has uncovered that these people that are out there protesting saying, yes, we do want more fraud, waste and abuse.
[09:19] Kim Monson: I'm not sure their message is resonating with the everyday hardworking American or the hardworking Coloradan.
[09:30] Greg Lopez: And even the fact that they are protesting and demonstrating for not us to be able to see how the fraud and the waste and abuse is happening in our nation, and for how long, is a clear indication that you know what they are: feeling very comfortable, that they want to work government in the shadows.
[09:51] Greg Lopez: They want to do things the way they've always done.
[09:53] Greg Lopez: And now President Trump is exposing them, and they're not happy, just like anybody else, right?
[09:59] Greg Lopez: that gets caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
[10:02] Greg Lopez: They're going to say it wasn't them.
[10:03] Greg Lopez: This is the way we should be doing things.
[10:05] Greg Lopez: And so I think the American people are realizing that, thank God that President Trump got elected because now we get to watch and understand how much wastefulness there is in government.
[10:17] Kim Monson: And so while we are excited about things that are happening at the federal level, Greg, here in Colorado, we are in trouble.
[10:28] Kim Monson: As president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, I get to put my eyeballs on each piece of legislation that is scheduled for hearing this week.
[10:42] Kim Monson: And I finally last night got our email out that we'd like to have go out on Monday.
[10:50] Kim Monson: And then it is monumental work to get this thing done.
[10:53] Kim Monson: And as I look at what's happening in Colorado, we are in trouble, Greg Lopez.
[11:01] Greg Lopez: You know, look, the state government is almost identical to the waste that is happening at the national level.
[11:10] Greg Lopez: When you're a billion dollars, you know, and the number keeps shifting, but when you're a billion dollars over budget and you don't know that you're going to be a billion dollars over budget, there is something wrong with whoever's watching the purse.
[11:25] Greg Lopez: Others had warned us, other Republicans earlier, three, four years ago, had warned us that this was going to happen if we weren't careful.
[11:36] Greg Lopez: So now they're going to have to cut.
[11:38] Greg Lopez: Now they're going to have to figure out how we're going to balance this.
[11:41] Greg Lopez: And one of the things that really concerns me- and you're probably aware of this- is how they're starting to play with the numbers of the population in order to get more money, as it pertains to how much money they can keep from Tabor because they don't want to give it back to the residents.
[11:57] Greg Lopez: They want to keep it and use it against the debt that they currently have, or I should say the overspend that they have.
[12:03] Greg Lopez: But yes, Colorado is heading in the wrong direction as we speak.
[12:07] Kim Monson: And we've got to really get this turned around.
[12:12] Kim Monson: But I really think that what's going to happen is, even though we love what's happening with many of the things at the federal level that you're going to see the doubling down by the extremist activist agenda at the local, the county, and the state level.
[12:27] Kim Monson: So we need to roll up our sleeves here in Colorado and really be engaged in our government, because I think this is an opportunity and it's not going to come to us again.
[12:39] Kim Monson: It's one of these things that we need to act now to become engaged in this and reclaim our Colorado that we love as well.
[12:50] Greg Lopez: Look, I was at the Capitol yesterday testifying on two bills, you know, and it's interesting because you're right, they're doubling down.
[12:56] Greg Lopez: I mean, they are not moving and we must be involved, like you said, engagement, but we also have to be present.
[13:04] Greg Lopez: We have to start picking up the phones.
[13:07] Greg Lopez: We got to start talking to our representatives, regardless of whether they're our party or not.
[13:12] Greg Lopez: If they're your representative, then you need to call them and you need to let them know how you feel, because right now they're running amok and they're going to continue to do that.
[13:23] Kim Monson: So, Greg Lopez, your final thought, and it's so cool that you were back in Ohio and making comments regarding Vivek Ramaswamy from the stage.
[13:34] Greg Lopez: You know, my final thought is, folks, look, our finest days are in the horizon.
[13:39] Greg Lopez: Yes, You can see some things once again between the different worldviews.
[13:49] Greg Lopez: Let's keep pushing it because our kids need it.
[13:52] Greg Lopez: Our grandchildren need us to fight for them.
[13:54] Greg Lopez: And one of the things is freedom isn't free.
[13:58] Greg Lopez: Let's exercise our civic duties and let's be representative of our own voices and hold people accountable.
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[17:25] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[17:28] Kim Monson: And thank you, Richard, clarification.
[17:31] Kim Monson: I had my stories a little mixed up.
[17:32] Kim Monson: The governor of Maine said she would not follow the rules concerning males competing in women's sports.
[17:43] Kim Monson: She said anyway, she said she wasn't going to follow that and Trump basically said that.
[17:50] Kim Monson: She said we're going to sue you in court.
[17:52] Kim Monson: Trump laughed and said: yeah, I'll see you in court and I like that.
[17:55] Kim Monson: This is going to be an easy one, and so that was what the interaction I got.
[17:59] Kim Monson: My I got my issues mixed up and I wasn't sure if it was the governor of Maine, but I think that many of the governors were back at the White House and they had that interaction.
[18:09] Kim Monson: We like to try to get it right here.
[18:13] Kim Monson: On the line with me is my fellow CUT board member.
[18:16] Kim Monson: He is a vice president of the board of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[18:22] Kim Monson: So we wanted to go through a few of these bills that are scheduled for hearing this week.
[18:30] Rob Knuth: Thanks for having me on with you.
[18:33] Rob Knuth: It's good to hear my friend Greg on there.
[18:38] Kim Monson: He was back there with Vivek as he was announcing his governorship for Ohio.
[18:44] Kim Monson: So, Rob, you and I talked yesterday, and it's pretty monumental what's happening down at this statehouse, and I say that not in a good way because as of yesterday morning, there were about 503 bills or resolutions that have been introduced down there.
[19:01] Kim Monson: We don't really probably need another law or fee or tax in Colorado.
[19:07] Kim Monson: But this legislature is out of control, I would say, Rob Knuth.
[19:12] Rob Knuth: I would agree with you on that, Kim.
[19:17] Rob Knuth: It's kind of like drinking from a fire hose for us to try to stay on top of this.
[19:21] Rob Knuth: And it just shows the extent of what the importance of what President Trump and Elon Musk are doing on a federal level to work on downscaling government.
[19:33] Rob Knuth: The way it's coming at us now, it seems like we could cut it in half, but that'd probably be a little severe.
[19:38] Rob Knuth: But it's just ridiculous the amount of stuff that we have to wade through.
[19:43] Rob Knuth: And like you stated, we're all volunteers.
[19:47] Rob Knuth: The people getting paid for it aren't even writing the bills.
[19:49] Rob Knuth: A lot of them don't even read it.
[19:50] Rob Knuth: They just have their names on it, and it's staff and lobbyists that are doing their work for them.
[19:55] Rob Knuth: And it's kind of frightening that this stuff is happening to the taxpayers of Colorado in such a manner.
[20:03] Kim Monson: We have several different bills to talk about.
[20:06] Kim Monson: And House Bill 25-1050, Regional County Jail Approach.
[20:13] Kim Monson: The prime sponsors are Representative Lorena Garcia and Senator Judy Emmabiel.
[20:18] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on this one, Rob Knuth?
[20:21] Rob Knuth: Well, we as a board are reflective of our community, and so sometimes we among ourselves have disagreements as to the approach.
[20:32] Rob Knuth: and sometimes it's a highly technical aspect why we come down one way or the other.
[20:38] Rob Knuth: In this case, I'm a dissenter from my colleagues in that it appears to me that this would be a big taxpayer savings for the counties that are in the rural sectors of the state, especially that need the resources to save money for their constituents and to be more effective in their law enforcement approach.
[20:58] Rob Knuth: And so when I went through it and looked at it and look at fiscal note stuff, I think that we should support the bill.
[21:05] Rob Knuth: But my colleagues on the board had some variance of opinion.
[21:10] Rob Knuth: A lot of times it's just specifics, details.
[21:13] Rob Knuth: But I think that it makes sense.
[21:15] Rob Knuth: And so in this case, I found myself in an odd position supporting about 11 Democrats that brought the bill forward, which I thought, how did they come up with such a common sense approach to law enforcement when they're not really known for that?
[21:28] Rob Knuth: So anyway, I'm a supporter of it because I think it would help the rural counties.
[21:34] Rob Knuth: And sometimes we in the metro kind of forget the importance of the issues that the rural counties grapple with.
[21:42] Kim Monson: Well, and that's what I love about this, Rob, which is I think what government really should be like as well, that we have debate on these issues.
[21:48] Kim Monson: And the safety clause, they stuck that on there in the safety clause.
[21:51] Kim Monson: And I'd really recommend that you join us so that you get this email, because we have a– that we send out each week.
[21:59] Kim Monson: You could do that at coloradotaxpayer.
[22:01] Kim Monson: But if they– so in Colorado, we have something that if a piece of legislation does not have the safety clause, the people of Colorado could actually vote on this and say whether or not they really wanted to have that happen.
[22:15] Kim Monson: The safety clause is there for really, I would say, catastrophic events.
[22:20] Kim Monson: But instead, they are sticking this on so many pieces of legislation so that the people of Colorado could not review it.
[22:29] Kim Monson: And so this has that safety clause on it.
[22:33] Kim Monson: And I think that that was the deal breaker with a number of our other board members.
[22:35] Kim Monson: And if the safety clause wasn't on there, I think that we probably would have come out as a yes and joined you on that, Rob Knuth.
[22:42] Kim Monson: So, again, great conversations that we have about this.
[22:45] Kim Monson: The next one that we wanted to talk about is House Bill 1141.
[22:50] Kim Monson: And this particular one, we like this one.
[22:56] Kim Monson: It's a gift card and retail property crime penalties.
[22:58] Kim Monson: And the prime sponsors on this are Representative Brandi Bradley and Senator John Carson.
[23:04] Kim Monson: So your thoughts on this, Rob Knuth?
[23:07] Rob Knuth: Yeah, I found myself in support of this one because it seems to be tightening up some of the criminal activities.
[23:14] Rob Knuth: where in the past it's gone the other way from the other side of the aisle.
[23:20] Rob Knuth: Their approach was to err on the side of the criminal and to raise the levels of penalty, and to where people got a break.
[23:29] Rob Knuth: And so I found myself in concurrence with the group approach on this.
[23:33] Rob Knuth: I think it's a good step that we start establishing some practical, reasonable parameters for what is crime and how it needs to be approached.
[23:46] Kim Monson: You know, I selected House Bill 251170, and for all of you out there, they will either be HB or SB.
[23:56] Kim Monson: So HB stands for House Bill, SB stands for Senate Bill, then it gives the year and then the bill number.
[24:03] Kim Monson: And this is lobbying by nonprofit entities, and prime sponsors on it are Representative Andrew Boesenekar, Boesen Ecker, Representative Mary Bradfield, Representative Eliza Hemrick, and Senator Faith Winter.
[24:15] Kim Monson: And we came down on the no side on this.
[24:18] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that one, Rob?
[24:19] Rob Knuth: Well, and I agreed with the group on that.
[24:22] Rob Knuth: To me, a lot of times with the current state of affairs with basically one- party rulershipin the state at this time, there's so many lines that are being blurred.
[24:33] Rob Knuth: So when we talk about nonprofit, and I'm engaged in and been in several nonprofits, actually, and currently one for 30 years, I'm partial to nonprofits.
[24:42] Rob Knuth: But the way this is, I think that a lot of times the lines get bloodied and blurred between nonprofit and what is an actual lobbyist for profit entities.
[24:53] Rob Knuth: And we've seen like with those at national levels again, that nonprofits were receiving billions of dollars, which doesn't seem like that's in the purview of the government to just dole out money as political favors.
[25:06] Rob Knuth: And so I found myself in opposition to this bill as well.
[25:10] Rob Knuth: I just think, yeah, it doesn't make sense to me to put this legislation forward.
[25:16] Kim Monson: Okay, uh, next one is a house bill 1224, excuse me, 1244.
[25:26] Kim Monson: 1244 hb 244- right, right, and oh, this is a welcome reception and integration grant program.
[25:34] Kim Monson: Prime sponsors: representative elizabeth velasco and representative larina garcia and senator lisa cutter.
[25:43] Rob Knuth: Yes, yeah, it's, uh, I thought It was telling when you look at the bill summary and what it actually says, and then you get into it.
[25:54] Rob Knuth: It's basically targeted to migrants that have arrived in the United States within the past year and instead requires community- based organizationsto prioritize their assistance of migrants up to the last three years.
[26:08] Rob Knuth: So what they're really doing is trying to give cover to illegal immigration.
[26:12] Rob Knuth: And again, the taxpayer will be on the hook for any of the expenditures.
[26:17] Rob Knuth: And so I don't see how this benefits the Colorado citizenry and legal migration.
[26:32] Kim Monson: Sponsors are Senator Mark Baisley, Representative Max Brooks and Representative Chris Richardson.
[26:38] Kim Monson: enforcement of federal immigration law.
[26:41] Kim Monson: And your thoughts on that, Rob Knuth?
[26:43] Rob Knuth: Yeah, I think, again, this helps to strengthen the idea of law and order.
[26:52] Rob Knuth: And it just makes sense to me for us to go along with Senator Baisley's reflections on this, who knows a lot what he's doing and what the inner workings of government.
[27:03] Rob Knuth: When you look at the details, It tightens things up again from a law and order standpoint.
[27:09] Rob Knuth: And so it kind of gives cover for our officers of the law, which we all wish to support.
[27:17] Rob Knuth: And so, again, I found myself not a problem that I support this.
[27:27] Kim Monson: Well, I was going to say thank you.
[27:28] Kim Monson: And we need to really give a shout out to, I think, our fellow board members.
[27:33] Kim Monson: Rob Knuth, you're the vice president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, also known as CUT.
[27:38] Kim Monson: But our fellow board members are Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, you, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Cory Ohnesorge, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard.
[27:54] Kim Monson: That is quite the group that we have that's working on all of this.
[27:59] Rob Knuth: It's a good group to be associated with.
[28:01] Rob Knuth: So, yeah, I value our dialogue and discussion, even when we come to different conclusions on a particular legislation.
[28:08] Rob Knuth: But I have respect for each and every one of the people on board.
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[28:28] Kim Monson: Well, and we're all taxpayers, Rob Canute, so we'd love to have people join us.
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[32:13] Kim Monson: Pleased tohave on the line with me Greg Walcher.
[32:21] Kim Monson: And you can find him at gregwalcher.
[32:38] Kim Monson: And I'd recommend that people get on your email list for this.
[32:45] Kim Monson: But one of the pieces that you wrote at the end of January is that the Department of Education DOE throws cold water on the Biden legacy.
[32:54] Kim Monson: But you said, heading out the door, Biden sought to ban 40 percent of water heaters.
[32:59] Kim Monson: It's kind of unbelievable what's being uncovered here.
[33:04] Greg Walcher: Yeah, the Department of Energy actually, but I don't know if anybody's really surprised by it.
[33:11] Greg Walcher: But they spent four years trying to ban appliances that we use every day of our lives.
[33:20] Greg Walcher: When you add together four years' worth of regulations of air conditioners and furnaces and gas stoves and fireplaces, even ceiling fans and light bulbs, the Alliance for Consumers estimated that they had added$ 9,000 to the cost of the average home or to the cost of the average consumer who has to replace those devices.
[33:44] Greg Walcher: And I was particularly offended that they wanted to try that on their way out the door, knowing that the new administration would probably roll it back, but that it would take them some time.
[33:53] Greg Walcher: And it was just sort of, in my mind, kind of a mean-spirited 11th hour regulation.
[33:58] Greg Walcher: It has been rolled back by executive order, in fact, but I didn't know at the time that I wrote it that that was about to happen.
[34:08] Kim Monson: So, Greg, it's it's crazy what they're trying to do under the guise of trying to save the planet on just really controlling, as you mentioned, every aspect of our lives, make it more expensive for everyday people to be able to thrive and prosper.
[34:29] Kim Monson: And then since you've written this, we saw that they had squirreled away 20 billion dollars and a Department of Energy.
[34:36] Kim Monson: You want to make sure I get that right.
[34:41] Kim Monson: But the EPA had squirreled away$ 20 billion, and$ 2 billion of it went to Stacey Abrams, who had run for governor in Georgia a couple of times.
[34:52] Kim Monson: That's unbelievable that they did that.
[34:57] Greg Walcher: And$ 20 billion, of course, has tipped the iceberg, as we're beginning to learn.
[35:02] Greg Walcher: And I'm among the number of people who, when Elon Musk first said that he would find a trillion dollars worth of waste and fraud and abuse, lots of people said, yeah, good luck with that.
[35:16] Greg Walcher: I'm beginning to think there's at least that much there.
[35:19] Greg Walcher: I don't know whether they'll be successful in rooting all of it out, but they found some of it, including the piece that you just mentioned, which a lot of people are justifiably outraged about.
[35:28] Greg Walcher: Nobody was offering to give me$ 2 billion, even when friends of mine were in the White House.
[35:36] Greg Walcher: That's not the way it's ever worked for me.
[35:39] Kim Monson: Well, and I think that's why your book, Smoking the Mouth, The Theft of the Environment and How to Take it Back, is they've really used the environment, climate change, to put forth this spending and these policies.
[35:55] Kim Monson: And as I'm looking at it now, people send me text messages on whatever new is being uncovered.
[36:02] Kim Monson: And it looks like thievery to me, Greg Walcher.
[36:08] Greg Walcher: The great irony about it, as you know, Kim, is that so much of it isn't really about the environment.
[36:14] Greg Walcher: I don't know anybody who hates the environment on either side of the aisle.
[36:18] Greg Walcher: I know lots of people who's– I know a lot of the leaders of the biggest environmental organizations in the country, but I've known all sorts of people who make their living in oil and gas and mining and logging and ranching and those other kind of professions.
[36:32] Greg Walcher: Those people don't hate the environment either.
[36:34] Greg Walcher: In fact, I argue that the people who live and work on the land love it more than anybody else.
[36:40] Greg Walcher: It's this agenda that they use the environment because it's popular, because we all do care about it.
[36:48] Greg Walcher: But the idea that somehow by banning the gas stove in my house that we're going to do something for the climate, it's like an entire agenda to try and push a lower standard of living, to make us live in smaller and less comfortable homes and give up our day- to-dayappliances and stop driving, stop manufacturing and consuming especially.
[37:09] Greg Walcher: while on the other side of the planet, people are getting off of their bicycles and into automobiles, people by the billions and living lifestyles that they couldn't have imagined a couple of generations ago, all because of the availability and affordability of energy, which our own government spends all kinds of time trying to get us to quit.
[37:31] Greg Walcher: It just makes no sense from an environmental point of view, because none of the things that we're talking about here are going to change the climate in an immeasurable way.
[37:39] Kim Monson: Well, here in Colorado, Greg, though, even though we see things happening at the federal level, here in Colorado, the radical extremists that are really in control of the state Senate, the state House, and the governor's office, they seem to be doubling down on this agenda to make everything more expensive for everyday hardworking people.
[38:03] Kim Monson: and I was in Steamboat on Sunday and very grateful.
[38:09] Kim Monson: I gave the keynote for the Routt County Republicans' Lincoln Day Brunch, and one of the things we were talking about is the schedule to shut down the coal- firedplants in Craig and the Hayden plant.
[38:23] Kim Monson: And as I was doing research on it regarding the Craig plant, is some of the electeds said, we're just going to adjust here.
[38:34] Kim Monson: We're going to focus more on tourism.
[38:37] Kim Monson: And quite frankly, and I think 146 people will be losing their jobs in Craig because of the closure of that plant.
[38:47] Kim Monson: And then all the people in the community that rely on people spending, these people that are employed by the plant, they buy and their groceries and their businesses there, it's really going to affect Craig.
[39:03] Kim Monson: And you've got those out there saying, well, we're just going to make it up by tourism.
[39:11] Kim Monson: But the other thing is, is rafting down the river doesn't create any affordable energy that helps people, you know, fuel their lives.
[39:22] Greg Walcher: Well, they're also kidding themselves if they think that that economic impact will only hit Greg in Moffett County.
[39:28] Greg Walcher: It's two power plants, actually two of the most productive and efficient power plants from a clean air point of view in the United States, and four coal mines that supply them, which are right next door to them.
[39:42] Greg Walcher: So there's all sorts of economic advantage to that particular area, not only because it's rich in some of the cleanest burning coal on the planet, but also being right next door to the power plant saves all sorts of transportation issues.
[39:56] Greg Walcher: And so closing all of that down is just plain insane at a time when the country is in dire need of more electricity, not less.
[40:06] Greg Walcher: So when they're talking about building these giant AI data centers around the country, and the president is already saying, while he's touting the investment in those, and he's saying, we probably have to build new power plants right next door to them because there isn't enough electricity on the grid to power all of the data centers that they're talking about.
[40:27] Greg Walcher: And we have an administration which rightfully, I think, wants the United States to be the leader in that.
[40:33] Greg Walcher: So for us to go around closing down power plants, as we've done all over the United States by the hundreds, makes absolutely no sense.
[40:41] Greg Walcher: What makes more sense is to build the AI data center in Craig, where you already have the power plants.
[40:46] Greg Walcher: And instead, the state and the utilities that own those power plants are spending millions and millions of millions of dollars on what they call this transition, this just transition process, which is just, it's nothing more than the state saying to the people in Northwest Colorado, you're going to have to live some other way now because you don't get to produce energy anymore.
[41:08] Greg Walcher: It couldn't be any more crazy than that, because the country needs the power that they're producing more than ever before.
[41:16] Kim Monson: So what can we get this turned around?
[41:23] Kim Monson: I I used to think that excel the business you would want.
[41:27] Kim Monson: You would think that the that they would want would want to provide a product that is affordable and reliable and efficient for people, but instead it's it seems that big government and big business like each other.
[41:39] Kim Monson: Excel seems to be doing the bidding of these radical activists, extremists shutting this down.
[41:45] Kim Monson: And then I see reports that our electric rates are going to go up.
[41:49] Kim Monson: Can we get this turned around, Greg Walcher?
[41:52] Greg Walcher: Our electric rates have gone up in Colorado, in fact, as much as 60 percent over the last decade.
[41:57] Greg Walcher: Xcel is involved in one of those power plants.
[42:00] Greg Walcher: The bigger one is owned by Tri- StatePower and Generation.
[42:03] Greg Walcher: But yeah, nobody should make the mistake of thinking these are business decisions.
[42:10] Greg Walcher: I don't blame the companies for doing what they have to do.
[42:14] Greg Walcher: Those decisions are based on government policy, not on consumer demand.
[42:20] Greg Walcher: So when the government declares war on coal and spends 20 years bankrupting the coal industry with regulations, and they have essentially put the vast bulk of the coal mines in the country out of business, the writing is on the wall.
[42:35] Greg Walcher: And so utilities all over America started closing down coal power plants, decommissioning them, as in this case, over a period of time, and then investing hundreds of millions of dollars in new natural gas burning plants and in wind farms and solar panels and so on.
[42:53] Greg Walcher: The city of Colorado Springs shut down another one of the most efficient coal power plants in the country, but the Colorado Springs utilities invested$ 100 million in building a new natural gas- firedpower plant.
[43:05] Greg Walcher: They're not going to be able to just flip the switch the next day and say, oh, policy has changed.
[43:15] Greg Walcher: Similar situation in Montana and in Wyoming and other places where they've shut down these super- efficientpower plants.
[43:25] Greg Walcher: You know, we spent decades regulating the emissions from power plants to the point where they had to develop clean- burningcoal in systems like the power plant Xcel had in Cameo, which was a 100- year-oldplant.
[43:39] Greg Walcher: But it had been improved to the point where it emitted virtually nothing into the air, and they shut it down.
[43:50] Greg Walcher: The ones in northwest Colorado are still there.
[43:52] Greg Walcher: They haven't been shut down yet, so it is not too late.
[43:55] Greg Walcher: for governments and businesses to say, wait, that was a mistake.
[44:01] Greg Walcher: And, in fact, we should build an AI data center there.
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[46:59] Kim Monson: On the line with me is Greg Walcher.
[47:01] Kim Monson: He is an expert regarding natural resources.
[47:04] Kim Monson: His book, Smoking Them Out, The Theft of the Environment and How to Take It Back, is really an important book.
[47:10] Kim Monson: His website is GregWalcher, that's W- A-L-C-H-E-R.
[47:17] Kim Monson: So again, GregWalcher, W- A-L-C-H-E-R.
[47:21] Kim Monson: And Greg, I wanted to also talk a little bit about this other essay that you have there.
[47:28] Kim Monson: But before we get into it, one of our listeners texted in and said, their purpose is not to save the planet.
[47:36] Kim Monson: We all need to stop believing what they say.
[47:40] Kim Monson: How do you address that when you're talking with people that say that this radical agenda is trying to save the planet?
[47:50] Greg Walcher: And, in fact, it's the theme of a lot of speeches that I make around the country because so many people are deluded into thinking that this agenda is all about the environment.
[47:58] Greg Walcher: I think people are beginning to get more and more skeptical, by the way, at the link between the climate change agenda and the environment.
[48:12] Greg Walcher: We all want an area teeming with wildlife and so on.
[48:15] Greg Walcher: People generally are very supportive of anything related to the environment, but I think people are getting more and more skeptical about this agenda that wants to ban all the stuff in our homes and claim that we're warming the planet beyond its ability to support life.
[48:31] Greg Walcher: And in fact, for me, and the theme of the book that you mentioned is mostly that that is a false agenda, that it's all about money and power and control and especially money.
[48:43] Greg Walcher: But a lot of that agenda is not really about the environment.
[48:47] Greg Walcher: And there's plenty of evidence for that around.
[48:49] Greg Walcher: When you look at the things that we do that would actually improve the environment, like reintroducing endangered species, for example, and the environmental organizations and the federal government are opposed to it and try to stop it, you can't escape the conclusion that there's some agenda other than the environment at work there.
[49:08] Greg Walcher: And it's particularly obvious in the climate change movement, in my opinion.
[49:12] Kim Monson: Well, and this is a good time to mention the documentary that I'm involved in, A Climate Conversation, which people can watch for free.
[49:23] Kim Monson: And we also did a great podcast series with that.
[49:26] Kim Monson: And Greg Walcher, you were one of our podcast guests.
[49:29] Kim Monson: I'd recommend that people check that out at aclimateconversation.
[49:33] Kim Monson: So let's talk just a little bit about your piece, Shovel Baby Shovel.
[49:37] Kim Monson: And we'd all heard Drill Baby Drill.
[49:43] Greg Walcher: Well, in my mind, it's about the need to reopen the mining industry in this country, the same as we have the need to reopen the domestic oil and gas industry.
[49:54] Greg Walcher: The idea that we should have our economy dependent on imports.
[50:00] Greg Walcher: from other countries, particularly ones who are unreliable in this sense, is craziness.
[50:06] Greg Walcher: So when China has only 37%of the known reserves of rare earth minerals, for example, but produces 80% or90% of theworld's supply, and the United States is almost completely reliant on them for a large number of minerals, that makes no sense.
[50:22] Greg Walcher: People have the idea somehow that the mineral reserves in this country just kind of played out, And the mines were exhausted.
[50:32] Greg Walcher: They were closed because of government policy.
[50:34] Greg Walcher: So we need to reopen the mining industry just as badly as any other kind of domestic production.
[50:41] Greg Walcher: We should not have to depend on China for the 17 critical minerals listed that our economy and our defense actually requires.
[50:50] Greg Walcher: And so now we see this new negotiation with the Ukraine, where we're going to get access to rare earth minerals produced there.
[50:58] Greg Walcher: I guess in the overall sense, that may be a better idea than getting them from China.
[51:03] Greg Walcher: But the best idea of all is to produce them ourselves.
[51:06] Greg Walcher: So we're not dependent anymore on an unstable Ukraine than we are on an unstable China.
[51:11] Greg Walcher: So I write a weekly newspaper column, and that's what Shovel Baby Shovel was there.
[51:17] Greg Walcher: And I maintain a national mailing list for several thousand people around the country that are interested in these issues.
[51:24] Greg Walcher: And so every week I send out some ramblings like that.
[51:28] Kim Monson: Well, I think that they're very important ramblings.
[51:30] Kim Monson: How is it, as we talk about this, it's really dumb, I think, that we've gotten to a point where we are reliant on other nations, some of them enemy nations, for things that we need and things that we have here.
[51:48] Kim Monson: And I think it's really dumb to be closing down these coal- fired plants.
[51:58] Kim Monson: No, it's been building for all of my life, in fact.
[52:04] Greg Walcher: And people would make a mistake if they became complacent because we have a president in the White House who has a little different view of this now.
[52:12] Greg Walcher: But make no mistake, as you said, with respect to Colorado's government, this is an ongoing battle.
[52:17] Greg Walcher: It won't end during this four years as a struggle that probably will continue for the rest of our lives.
[52:23] Greg Walcher: But that just means it's more important than ever that we suit up and that we spread the truth about some of these issues and tell people the advantages, huge advantages, of affordable and available energy and minerals.
[52:38] Greg Walcher: It's what has created the prosperous economy that we all are so proud of in this country, where we've done more to improve the environment, by the way, than any people who ever lived and at the same time created the most prosperous and free country in the history of the world.
[52:53] Greg Walcher: And for us to be made to feel bad about that somehow, like we should apologize for it, is nuts in my mind.
[53:00] Greg Walcher: I think we should be proud of it, and I think we ought to show the rest of the world how they can get it too.
[53:07] Kim Monson: We've got a question that came in on the text line that says they want to know how uranium mining and storage is clean.
[53:17] Kim Monson: How would you respond to that, Greg Walcher?
[53:22] Greg Walcher: Well, nuclear energy is one of the cleanest sources of power imaginable.
[53:27] Greg Walcher: In addition to being a lot cheaper to produce than energy created with coal or oil or gas or wind or solar or anything else, I find it's interesting, in fact, that the executive order that the president signed not quite a month ago suggests that all of the agencies reexamine whatever regulations are a hindrance to mining and specifically talked about rare earth minerals.
[53:54] Greg Walcher: It also suggested adding to the critical minerals list uranium, which is interesting because I think it signals an intention on the part of the administration to work toward jump- starting the nuclearpower industry, which even a lot of the big environmental organizations have come around to because it is cleaner than coal, oil, gas, or anything else.
[54:19] Greg Walcher: wind and solar production, as you probably know, produce more toxins and more environmental damage in a lot of ways than digging up coal and burning it.
[54:30] Greg Walcher: So everything has an environmental consequence, no question about that.
[54:36] Greg Walcher: And so our job is to do it as cleanly and responsibly as we can, which is the main problem with producing it in China.
[54:44] Greg Walcher: China still throws their trash in the river, for heaven's sakes.
[54:46] Greg Walcher: That's why we have this massive floating island of plastic in the Pacific Ocean, almost all of which comes from China.
[54:52] Greg Walcher: So we can't control the way they produce anything in other countries.
[54:58] Greg Walcher: We can produce it more sustainably, more responsibly in ways that our grandkids can be proud of if we produce it here where we can control it.
[55:05] Kim Monson: Well, and again, we can coexist as humans with our environment and we can be good stewards of this earth.
[55:17] Kim Monson: Your final thought, Greg Walcher, always goes so quickly, and I learned so much.
[55:23] Greg Walcher: It is our responsibility to produce as responsibly as we can, more responsibly than anyone else on the planet can do.
[55:34] Greg Walcher: That is our duty to steward the environment correctly, as you say.
[55:39] Greg Walcher: We also have a duty to continue to support a prosperous society.
[55:45] Greg Walcher: It's to make sure that we produce the resources that are needed for a prosperous economy and to make sure that they're still available for future generations.
[55:53] Greg Walcher: And so that's what it all comes down to in my mind.
[55:57] Kim Monson: Well, Greg Walcher, thank you so much.
[56:00] Kim Monson: His book is Smoking Them Out, The Theft of the Environment and How to Take It Back.
[56:04] Kim Monson: And you can find him at gregwalcher, W- A- L- C-H-E-Rdotcom.
[56:08] Kim Monson: Walter, thank you so much Thank you, always a pleasure And our quote for the end of the show is from Michelangelo, he says Do not fret, for God did not create us to abandon us So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and like Superman stand for truth, justice and the American way My friends, you are not alone God bless you, God bless America Stay tuned for hour number two I've been wandering out into this great unknown.
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[58:41] Kim Monson: And if it's wednesday, that means that it is wings day at hooters restaurants, and they have five locations- loveland, aurora, lone tree, westminster and colorado springs- and you buy 20 wings.
[58:52] Kim Monson: You can get an additional 10 for free, and that's for to go or to dine in.
[58:59] Kim Monson: And I think many of you probably saw the headlines over the weekend that Hooters National had filed for bankruptcy and reorganization and did reach out to Brian, my friend.
[59:10] Kim Monson: He is one of the franchisees, he and Tom, and they are true patriots, true conservatives, and how I got to know them is an important story about the proper role of government, I would say.
[59:25] Kim Monson: He said, yes, this is true, but he said we're going to be making lemon out of lemonade.
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[59:35] Kim Monson: And, of course, you can pick things up and take it home if you don't have, you know, don't want to stay and watch the games or whatever.
[59:42] Kim Monson: But it is tough out there nationally for our restaurants business, but really here in Colorado.
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[60:01] Kim Monson: Our word of the day is aphorism and it is a noun.
[60:07] Kim Monson: Its first definition could be a concise statement of a principle.
[60:13] Kim Monson: Number two, a terse formulation of a truth or sentiment and number three, an ingeniously terse style of expression.
[60:20] Kim Monson: And Richard, thank you for getting me straight.
[60:26] Kim Monson: I was, um, so many different issues out there with, uh, Trump and, uh, this interaction that he had with the governor of Maine regarding, um, keeping boys out of girls' sports.
[60:39] Kim Monson: And I, uh, Trump asked her if you're going to comply.
[60:44] Kim Monson: And she replied, we're going to follow state and federal law.
[60:46] Kim Monson: Trump said, I am, we are the federal law.
[60:50] Kim Monson: And then he said, you will get no money to which she responded.
[60:58] Kim Monson: So thank you, Richard, for getting that exactly right.
[61:00] Kim Monson: Trump's doing so many things and I got my issues mixed up in our number one, but I think it was a real aphorism when he says, and he says, and