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[00:25] Kim Monson: It is not fair that just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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[01:03] Producer Steve: Finally, fabulous Friday.
[01:06] Kim Monson: You're doing such a great job with your, is it alliterations?
[01:10] Kim Monson: Is that the word that you're using?
[01:11] Producer Steve: Well, maybe it's sitting in a Southern Baptist church for so many years and how many pastors have alliterated their sermons.
[01:20] Producer Steve: You know, all their five or six major points start with the same letter.
[01:26] Kim Monson: It just kind of rolls off the tongue.
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[01:42] Kim Monson: As we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something is a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[01:52] Kim Monson: And my friends, it's never compassionate.
[01:54] Kim Monson: And they hide all kinds of force stuff under being compassionate.
[01:57] Kim Monson: It's compassionate to redistribute your wealth, to take your money and redistribute it to somebody else.
[02:07] Kim Monson: But anyway, it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff.
[02:12] Kim Monson: It could be their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, or their lives via force.
[02:16] Kim Monson: And force can come in the package of weapons, policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum, Davos globalist elites agenda, or the new 87,000 IRS agents authorized in the Democrats' Inflation Reduction Act, which is, the real name should be the Income Reduction Act.
[02:42] Producer Steve: Oh, my gosh.
[02:43] Producer Steve: All these opening things that you go through almost daily, every one of them could be a show unto itself.
[02:51] Producer Steve: And if something is a good idea you shouldn't have to force, well, okay, that basically tells us there aren't many good ideas out there because there's force coming at us from every direction.
[03:02] Kim Monson: And as we're coming into this election cycle, we need to be electing people that are representatives of the people that will protect our constitutional rights and our Constitution.
[03:15] Kim Monson: America, the old girl, is under attack right now.
[03:19] Kim Monson: And we had Scott Powell on recently, and he said that we are in a third world war, actually, and the American people are under attack, and it's been a psyops attack for many, many years.
[03:35] Kim Monson: And you see that in these words that we use, fear, coercion.
[03:38] Kim Monson: On a daily basis, you see it through mainstream media, you see it through academia, big tech.
[03:45] Kim Monson: And it's all to create confusion and chaos in people's minds and in their lives.
[03:53] Kim Monson: That's why we need to find that true north, The divine creator who had his hand on this country When we were founded.
[04:05] Kim Monson: And get focused on that true north And search for clarity in your life every day.
[04:12] Kim Monson: That's why we do this show Is to help you understand these issues And bring some clarity of thought To what is happening out there.
[04:20] Producer Steve: Steve, I go back to 2008.
[04:22] Producer Steve: How many times that barack obama, in his stumping uh, say we're going to fundamentally change the united states, and I just don't know anybody in in journalism, which that's a foreign word.
[04:35] Producer Steve: I'm sorry that's a four-letter word anymore, but nobody went in and said: what does he really mean?
[04:41] Producer Steve: What is he talking about?
[04:41] Producer Steve: I guess many people assumed that they were going to just look at the quirks of the clinton administration and the bush administration and clean up.
[04:50] Producer Steve: You know that's what fundamentally change meant.
[04:53] Kim Monson: Well, now that we know what fundamentally change really meant, yeah, we're really seeing that and and think about it, the presidency of donald trump really kind of, um, threw cold water on that transformation.
[05:08] Kim Monson: It had to take a pause, but now that joe biden is in uh, in is occupying the uh oval office and kind of I like the way.
[05:19] Producer Steve: Well, you kind of caught yourself.
[05:22] Producer Steve: Now that Joe Biden is in, no, you said occupying is a better term.
[05:26] Kim Monson: We see the movers and shakers really ramping up this agenda.
[05:32] Kim Monson: And this agenda comes down from the Davos globalist elites.
[05:40] Kim Monson: And it doesn't have to be like this.
[05:45] Kim Monson: It is very important this particular midterm election to take back both the Senate and the House.
[05:56] Kim Monson: We'll be talking about that here, some of those things here in just a moment.
[05:59] Kim Monson: I've got to talk about America's Veterans Stories, Steve.
[06:03] Kim Monson: I went on location yesterday and interviewed 98-year-old Dick Gibbs, a P-51 fighter pilot in World War II, 43 combat missions.
[06:18] Kim Monson: And it will broadcast this Sunday, 3 to 4 p.
[06:23] Kim Monson: It's another just great interview, Steve.
[06:25] Producer Steve: As you two were moving through the interview, I kept thinking, well, you know, we have in our minds, we've watched lots of documentaries.
[06:35] Producer Steve: We used to watch 12 o'clockhigh, you know, either the movie or the TV series.
[06:40] Producer Steve: And we think we know, you know, what it was like over Europe.
[06:44] Producer Steve: And when you listen to somebody like Dick Gibbs, you find out the inside scoop.
[06:49] Producer Steve: Yeah, yeah.
[06:50] Kim Monson: And he is credited with shooting down four German planes as well.
[06:53] Kim Monson: so that's a pretty big deal so that is this sunday 3 to 4 p.
[06:58] Kim Monson: And then, of course, every sunday 10 to 11 there is an encore of one of our previous um america's veteran stories show, and also on saturday nights there is another encore, so be sure and check that out.
[07:09] Kim Monson: We'll be talking with greg walcher here in just a a little bit in our third and fourth segments, and he's an expert regarding natural resources and I wanted to talk with him about water in the West and these intense fires in the West, and so you'll want to stay tuned on that.
[07:28] Kim Monson: And then Steven Peck is going to be in studio in our second hour.
[07:31] Kim Monson: He's a former director of the color of Douglas County School Boards and we'll be talking about just some of the different policies that he said, telegraphed to the rest of the country, maybe things that aren't so great, inviting some of them to Colorado, telegraphing what Colorado is, and so that will be very fascinating as well.
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[08:38] Kim Monson: Let's go over here to our quote for today.
[08:41] Producer Steve: Since we're talking, oh, I was going to ask you: can we get to the quote of the day?
[08:45] Producer Steve: Yes, because it's a good one.
[08:47] Producer Steve: Okay.
[08:47] Kim Monson: And I went to teddy roosevelt because, as you know, teddy roosevelt was a conservationist, but he was teddy theodore roosevelt jr.
[08:57] Kim Monson: Was an american politician, statesman, conservationist, naturalist, historian and writer.
[09:06] Kim Monson: He was born in 1858, he died in 1919 and he said this: he said: when they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer, present or not guilty, and that that disease, that that's what you want to label it- has made its way over to the House of Representatives to all, although they probably don't do roll call over there as well, because there's so many, but as well the response would be the same: yes, and I think, in a way, when we look at these quotes, we realize that there is nothing new.
[09:38] Kim Monson: However, I feel that we are on steroids right now with what is happening at the federal government, the state government, even local governments.
[09:52] Kim Monson: They're way out of the proper role of government.
[09:54] Kim Monson: And government should only do its limited definitions.
[09:59] Kim Monson: And I think it was Lincoln, But government should not do for people what people can do for themselves.
[10:09] Kim Monson: I think he said something along that line.
[10:11] Kim Monson: And when people look to government to take care of them, to do things that they're not supposed to be doing, for example, that whole mental health thing, that is not the proper role of government.
[10:25] Kim Monson: And when people look to government to do that, they're giving up more and more control of their lives.
[10:30] Kim Monson: and what we see is people generally, there are people that would like to have control of their lives and have somebody else pay for that.
[10:40] Kim Monson: You have to be responsible for your own life.
[10:42] Kim Monson: And when we talk about government being local, the most local of all governments should be how we govern ourselves, Steve.
[10:48] Producer Steve: Yeah, I got nothing to counter that.
[10:52] Producer Steve: That's the bottom line.
[10:54] Producer Steve: And yet in that vacuum, when we won't govern ourselves, and that vacuum is where government rushes in.
[11:01] Producer Steve: It does rush in.
[11:08] Kim Monson: When we come back, I want to go through this headline here regarding Joe Day distancing himself from the GOP.
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[13:48] Kim Monson: We clearly are an independent voice.
[13:49] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[13:55] Kim Monson: Wanted to chat just a little bit, Steve, regarding this Washington Examiner piece about Joe O'Day.
[14:04] Kim Monson: He is their senior political correspondent.
[14:06] Kim Monson: It says Joe O'Day, a Republican Senate nominee in Colorado, is running as far away from the GOP as he can in a new television advertisement airing statewide.
[14:18] Kim Monson: It says everyone in Washington votes the party line.
[14:23] Kim Monson: He doesn't care about partisanship.
[14:25] Kim Monson: He'll represent Colorado, a voter says, looking straight at the camera.
[14:29] Kim Monson: That's followed by O'Day, who closes the 30- secondbiography spot by declaring, I'm not focused on political parties.
[14:36] Kim Monson: I'll do what's right for our country.
[14:39] Kim Monson: In other words, even with President Joe Biden's job approval ratings, cratering and the GOP projected to make big gains in the midterm elections, running as a Republican in deep blue Colorado is an uphill battle.
[14:52] Kim Monson: First of all, I'm not sure that I believe that Colorado is deep blue.
[14:54] Kim Monson: As we have looked at election integrity here in Colorado, I think that there are tremendous vulnerabilities.
[15:01] Kim Monson: And one of those is papering the state with these mail- inballots.
[15:09] Kim Monson: Well, clearly nothing will be done on the democrat side to do something about that, but nothing has been done on the republican side to clean that up as well.
[15:18] Kim Monson: So papering the state with all of these ballots which then they can be voted.
[15:23] Kim Monson: Um, and there's just been nothing to nothing done on the gop side to clean up our our elections here, and so I I take issue that we're a deep blue state.
[15:33] Kim Monson: I know that that's what it looks like when we have the results of our elections.
[15:38] Kim Monson: But I think there's a much bigger story to that, Steve.
[15:41] Producer Steve: Well, the end results kind of lean towards the blue, but I agree with you.
[15:45] Producer Steve: Deep blue state, that's not like we're a Michigan or something like that, or a New York or even a California.
[15:52] Producer Steve: But again, the results kind of make it look that way, but we know that's just not true.
[16:01] Producer Steve: Now, in terms of this whole thing, what Odea is saying, I'm stuck.
[16:07] Producer Steve: I'm like sitting on the fence and I don't want to be because I get a sense of where he's coming from because I don't understand, and I would ask your help, in understanding what the GOP has been up to for the last 20 years.
[16:26] Kim Monson: Because anyway, I want to talk a little bit more about this.
[16:33] Kim Monson: First of all, is he telegraphing that he's going to be a Mitt Romney?
[16:40] Kim Monson: or Lisa Murkowski, or Susan Collins?
[16:46] Kim Monson: Because to send somebody there that's not going to vote with the Republican values, I'm quite concerned about that, Steve.
[16:55] Producer Steve: Well, the individuals you just named, Murkowski, Susan Collins, and Mitt Romney, nothing good has really come out of that arena.
[17:06] Producer Steve: So I don't know, Joe, you just want to jump into that pool.
[17:11] Producer Steve: without checking the depth of the water before you dive in.
[17:14] Producer Steve: I mean, the disaster is there.
[17:17] Kim Monson: Well, and then talking about Michael Bennett, of course, we had talked.
[17:22] Kim Monson: He's really taken a lot of heat regarding the one-day fishing license for the photo op down.
[17:27] Producer Steve: Oh, I hope they're not done yet.
[17:29] Producer Steve: I hope this goes on for another two months.
[17:31] Producer Steve: And I'm betting, I'd be willing to bet that that commercial, when it's ready, it won't air.
[17:37] Kim Monson: But again, the question is, do you need a one-day fishing license if you have no intention on catching a fish?
[17:44] Kim Monson: You don't know how to catch a fish, and you don't know what to do with a fish if you caught it.
[17:48] Kim Monson: I think that's really the big question.
[17:51] Kim Monson: But yesterday we talked about this, and let's see, where did this come from?
[17:55] Producer Steve: Well, that whole thing, I can throw in another comment.
[17:59] Producer Steve: That smacks of pushing image over content.
[18:03] Producer Steve: It's phony.
[18:04] Kim Monson: You used the word yesterday, phony, and I think that that is super important.
[18:11] Kim Monson: But I wanted to go over to this, and we talked about this yesterday, and this was from the Colorado Sun.
[18:17] Kim Monson: Coloradans are contributing lots of money to Liz Cheney in the Republican U.
[18:22] Kim Monson: And as you look at some of the names that are contributing to Cheney, you see that they are names that have been controlling the Colorado GOP.
[18:35] Kim Monson: And, as you and I were talking on, our pre-call for the show is: the Colorado GOP has not delivered any success in 20 years or more.
[18:48] Kim Monson: And even then, Bill Owens actually put, you know, supported something that actually took some teeth out of Tabor, our Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights.
[19:02] Kim Monson: But one of the big donors here to Liz Cheney is Phil Anschutz.
[19:15] Kim Monson: And Phil Anschutz, my understanding was, is he was very instrumental in bringing Michael Bennett out to Colorado.
[19:24] Kim Monson: And Michael Bennett became the superintendent of the Denver Public Schools.
[19:34] Kim Monson: And so, I mean, Bennett may be vulnerable, but yet on the other hand, he's received a lot of support from some of the big movers and shakers on the GOP side.
[19:48] Kim Monson: Joe O'Day actually contributed my understanding.
[19:51] Kim Monson: You know what, I've not verified that.
[19:53] Kim Monson: I've, so I guess that's secondhand, but we do need to make sure that we, anyway, are my, well, Well, actually, he was asked about that.
[20:01] Kim Monson: So I know I did hear him say that he did contribute to, I think, Hickenlooper and Bennett's campaign.
[20:07] Kim Monson: So he's been supporting Democrats as well.
[20:10] Kim Monson: So, you know, I'm not sure that there's much difference between Bennett and O'Day.
[20:16] Producer Steve: Well, again, this environment, not knowing where the GOP really stands, what they're up to, the fact that they haven't delivered in 20 years.
[20:25] Producer Steve: he can come out and say he's not going to be partisan.
[20:32] Producer Steve: But like I said, I liken it to a guy on the dance floor wearing army boots.
[20:36] Producer Steve: He's not going to be very graceful here.
[20:38] Producer Steve: And he's probably going to get himself into a world of hurt.
[20:41] Producer Steve: Yeah.
[20:43] Producer Steve: Which ultimately means, can he take out Bennett?
[20:47] Kim Monson: So the positive thing, even though he might not stand on the Republican side, is as a Republican, if he is elected, and we do take back the Senate, that would mean that actually Republicans would be in control of many of the committees.
[21:06] Kim Monson: And so that thing would be very positive.
[21:09] Kim Monson: So that would make sense to try to get a Republican elected, even if they're going to act more like a Romney or a Murkowski, right?
[21:19] Producer Steve: You took the words right out of my mouth.
[21:21] Producer Steve: So, yes, the Republicans take back the Senate, but now we've got another guy in there who is like those other three that we just talked about.
[21:29] Kim Monson: But yes, there would be a positive in making that happen for sure.
[21:34] Kim Monson: Let's run over here to Biden, who doesn't have a clue.
[21:41] Kim Monson: President Joe Biden claimed on Wednesday that the United States experienced 0%inflation in the month of July, while ignoring that the Bureau of Labor Statistics' later Consumer Price Index announced inflation rose 8..
[21:55] Kim Monson: And it says on Wednesday the CPI report revealed the rate of inflation is down from June's 9.
[22:04] Kim Monson: It did show that 0% inflation occurred fromJune to July, but that the country still experienced an increase in prices overall compared to a year ago.
[22:13] Kim Monson: So, again, parsing some of the statistics there as they always do, Producer Steve.
[22:20] Producer Steve: I heard him say it, and then sure, as night follows day, I heard Kamala Harris, a soundbiter, her saying the same thing.
[22:28] Producer Steve: And I just don't, I mean, my understanding of things in the economy is very shallow.
[22:33] Producer Steve: Let's say I need to do some homework.
[22:37] Producer Steve: But how could you have one month, like June, where the figures were where they were, and then come back a month later and say, oh, inflation is down to 0%.
[22:46] Producer Steve: Yeah.
[22:47] Producer Steve: How could that happen?
[22:48] Kim Monson: Well, they're just talking about the comparison of the same month last year.
[22:53] Kim Monson: So I don't think the American people are going to buy it.
[22:57] Kim Monson: I just don't think that they're going to buy it.
[23:01] Kim Monson: It says here in Denver, this is from the Center Square, consumer prices in Denver are up 1.
[23:09] Kim Monson: And that's a little bit more than the 1.
[23:15] Kim Monson: 33% increase the area sawinApril and May.
[23:18] Kim Monson: And it says much of the two two- month increase in inflation may haveoccurred in june, which is not reported separately in colorado, as national inflation was flat in july.
[23:27] Kim Monson: The common sense institute said, and it says: despite any moderation in july, overall price growth continues to outpace earnings growth, and that's where you have what is called stagflation, and that is so frustrating for people to maybe even get a raise at work, but then looking at what everything costs just to live, their groceries, their fuel, that those prices have gone up even more.
[23:54] Kim Monson: It's very disheartening, and it's because of public policy, Steve.
[23:58] Producer Steve: How discouraging it would be to say, yes, here's your, this is, again, this is a vicious circle.
[24:08] Producer Steve: Your employer gives you a very nice raise, But you turn around and realize because of all these things that are staring us in the face, the raise really went nowhere.
[24:16] Producer Steve: Right.
[24:17] Producer Steve: And, oh, geez.
[24:18] Producer Steve: I know.
[24:19] Kim Monson: And the last part of this article really kind of nails it.
[24:23] Kim Monson: It says, one area where consumers in Metro Denver have been hit the hardest is at the grocery store.
[24:30] Kim Monson: Over the last year, food prices have increased by an average of 12% with the food at home category,which measures grocery prices, and rising about 13.
[24:37] Kim Monson: That's just to put food onthe table.
[24:42] Kim Monson: The food away from home category, which measures restaurant and retail food prices, has increased by just 9.
[24:48] Kim Monson: 8% since July of 2021, according tothedata.
[24:50] Kim Monson: And it's, again, this is because of public policy.
[24:55] Kim Monson: There's really been an attack on our food producers, rural Colorado, our livestock producers.
[25:00] Kim Monson: There has just been a real assault on them from a public policy standpoint.
[25:09] Kim Monson: And, of course, Polis had declared a meet- out day a few years ago, which wasactually a real positive for our livestock producers.
[25:17] Kim Monson: However, telegraphing where he really is from a public policy standpoint, when he realized that from a political standpoint that was not a good thing to do.
[25:28] Kim Monson: You know, he immediately changed his narrative on that.
[25:30] Kim Monson: But he's telegraphing where he really is with public policy, Steve.
[25:38] Producer Steve: I think we had two different people on our show, and there were other shows going around the state getting people in agriculture, and everyone was having a cookout and inviting people to come to their cookout that day.
[25:50] Producer Steve: That was great.
[25:51] Producer Steve: It really was.
[25:52] Kim Monson: But again, they telegraph what they're really all about.
[25:55] Kim Monson: I mean, they tell you what they're going to do.
[26:00] Kim Monson: And it's a long- term strategy, and it will be back.
[26:04] Kim Monson: Andof course, when we look at the World Economic Forum, we had Trent Loos on earlier this week, and he's an expert on issues regarding rural Colorado, our livestock producers.
[26:18] Kim Monson: and there is this real attack on our food source and you're seeing it with food prices going up.
[26:29] Kim Monson: It's hurting everyday people, and these PBIs really don't care about everyday people, but they like to say that they do when it gets to campaign time.
[26:39] Kim Monson: And so going back to Michael Bennett trying to pretend like he's an outdoorsman, it's phony and we need to call it for what it is.
[26:50] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll be talking with Greg Walcher.
[26:53] Kim Monson: He's an expert regarding natural resources.
[26:56] Kim Monson: And I wanted to talk with him about these intense forest fires as well as water in the West.
[27:01] Kim Monson: These are public policy disasters right now.
[27:07] Kim Monson: So when we come back, we'll talk with Greg Walcher.
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[28:57] Kim Monson: I am very excited to talk with Greg Walcher.
[29:00] Kim Monson: He served in the governor's cabinet as head of the Colorado Department of Natural Resources.
[29:04] Kim Monson: He's the author of Smoking Them Out, The Theft of the Environment and How to Take It Back.
[29:11] Kim Monson: He writes a weekly newspaper column on natural resources, and he publishes a blog called Resources and Reality, which has several thousand subscribers nationwide.
[29:27] Kim Monson: Wanted to talk to you about two different things, Greg.
[29:31] Kim Monson: I just returned from a road trip through the great American Southwest, and it's monsoon season right now.
[29:36] Kim Monson: And so it's actually green in a lot of part of the desert.
[29:43] Kim Monson: And I was a little shocked to see that the canals in Arizona and California were very full.
[29:49] Kim Monson: And is that because of the rains, or is that because they've been draining the water from the Colorado River?
[29:57] Kim Monson: Well, it's not because of the rains.
[30:00] Greg Walcher: California and arizona both have an entitlement of water rights in the colorado river, whether it rains or not, whether it's a drought or not, they get their their water one way or another.
[30:13] Greg Walcher: So so yeah, the canals are full and the southwest is is green, and particularly the irrigated part of it.
[30:20] Greg Walcher: That's the nature of interstate agreements that we have, that Colorado is obligated to deliver actually more than half of the Colorado River to other states.
[30:32] Kim Monson: Well, and last time you were on, Greg, you explained this, and I think it would be good to explain it again about this water interstate compact so people understand what is happening.
[30:45] Greg Walcher: We really are at loggerheads with the other states for the, I shouldn't say for the first time, but it's worse than it's ever been before.
[30:58] Greg Walcher: And the Colorado River issues are really coming to a head because of the drought.
[31:01] Greg Walcher: The Bureau of Reclamation has ordered all seven of the states that get water from the Colorado River to reduce their usage of water.
[31:09] Greg Walcher: And it's an authority that the Bureau of Reclamation does not have over Colorado.
[31:14] Greg Walcher: And it's particularly ironic to make such an order to a state like ours, which has never used its entire compact share.
[31:23] Greg Walcher: And so it has created this sort of crisis that we're in right now that, unfortunately, many people haven't really studied the compact enough, and not that there's any reason that it should have.
[31:37] Greg Walcher: but it brings us to the point where people really need to understand the way this works.
[31:44] Greg Walcher: The Colorado River was divided basically half and half with the upper basin states, that's Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, and New Mexico, and the other half to the lower basin states of California, Arizona, and Nevada.
[31:54] Greg Walcher: But it was divided at a time when the flow of the river was significantly higher than it is today.
[32:00] Greg Walcher: And yet that half and half division is still sort of assumed that we're going to deliver the half we've always been delivering to the lower basin, whether it's here or not.
[32:14] Greg Walcher: And the only way to do that, of course, is to take it away from our half.
[32:18] Greg Walcher: The upper basin states divided their half of the river according to percentages decades ago.
[32:25] Greg Walcher: So whatever the flow of the river is, Colorado gets basically half of the upper basin, half, whatever that happens to be.
[32:33] Greg Walcher: But in the lower basin, because it was determined at a time when the flow of the river was 15 million acre- feet, the lower basin gets 7.
[32:43] Greg Walcher: 5 millionacre- feet, whether 15 is thereor not.
[32:47] Greg Walcher: Andso today, when the flow of the river is more like 11 or 12 million acre- feet, they're still getting 7.
[32:55] Greg Walcher: And in order tosupply it, theBureau of Reclamation is draining Lake Powell.
[32:59] Greg Walcher: And so the water level in Lake Powell is more than 100 feet below its fill mark.
[33:05] Greg Walcher: And more to the point, our spigot for being able to make that delivery every year is going away.
[33:14] Greg Walcher: And it's because of a decision the federal government has made.
[33:18] Greg Walcher: of a decision the federal government has made.
[33:20] Greg Walcher: in the way they manage that dam, not because of the drought.
[33:24] Kim Monson: And so this is a public policy disaster from what I can see.
[33:28] Kim Monson: And it doesn't have to be this way.
[33:33] Kim Monson: When you talk about these seven states, and I think that Polis, I need to verify that, I think he's head of the Western Governors Association now.
[33:42] Kim Monson: But they need to roll their sleeves up and get really serious about this.
[33:47] Kim Monson: And yes, Polis is, I think, the chair of this at this time.
[33:52] Kim Monson: And they need to roll their sleeves up and get serious about it, right?
[33:56] Greg Walcher: The great irony about it, Kim, is that the solution to it isn't that difficult.
[34:01] Greg Walcher: The lower basin has always said for decades, they've been saying, we need to rewrite the compact.
[34:08] Greg Walcher: That's a buzzword that Colorado always recognizes.
[34:12] Greg Walcher: That means that we need more water from Colorado.
[34:15] Greg Walcher: Colorado is the only one of the seven states that still has unused water.
[34:19] Greg Walcher: So whenever anybody wants more water in the lower basin, it always means our water.
[34:25] Greg Walcher: And the problem with it is that the solution is quite simple.
[34:33] Greg Walcher: If the lower basin is supposed to get half of the annual flow, then whatever that amount is should be adjusted every year according to how much water is actually there.
[34:43] Greg Walcher: 5 million acre feet, we should simply say they always get half of whatever it is.
[34:47] Greg Walcher: And if we interpreted it that way, Colorado would actually be getting about the same amount of water that it's getting now.
[34:56] Greg Walcher: But the lower basements would be getting$ 5.
[35:04] Greg Walcher: And then when the water flow of the river goes back up, as inevitably climate cycles work, then it'll go back up accordingly.
[35:12] Greg Walcher: So it ought to be divided according to the percentage, not some fixed amount.
[35:20] Kim Monson: Greg, my understanding is that California is actually dismantling or destroying some of the dams on some of their rivers, which provides hydropower.
[35:35] Kim Monson: And I guess ostensibly because, you know, environmental reasons.
[35:44] Greg Walcher: Dams have been decommissioned in various places around the West.
[35:49] Greg Walcher: And, of course, every time anybody wants to build a water project of any sort in Colorado, California is always opposed to it, always has been.
[35:57] Greg Walcher: They spent 20 years opposing the canal project in Arizona that you mentioned earlier.
[36:01] Greg Walcher: They're always against anyone else using their water.
[36:04] Greg Walcher: But they make dumb decisions themselves, too.
[36:08] Greg Walcher: The other thing is that California is, of course, sitting right on the Pacific Ocean.
[36:12] Greg Walcher: And so they have an unlimited supply of water if they're willing to use it.
[36:15] Greg Walcher: People who have visited the Middle East know that commercial-scale desalinization plants are common in Israel and Saudi Arabia.
[36:23] Greg Walcher: The technology is fairly easy, but in California, after 20 years of planning and work on the project, the California Coastal Commission just voted down the big desalinization plant in California.
[36:34] Greg Walcher: So there's no need in their mind to spend money on the obvious source of water when they can get it for free from Colorado.
[36:46] Kim Monson: So as we look at, and as I mentioned, Polis is the chair of the Western Governors Association.
[36:53] Kim Monson: It seems like there could be some real leadership there to start to really get serious about solving this problem.
[37:01] Kim Monson: But if they solve the problem, then they lose.
[37:03] Kim Monson: And when I say they, I'm referring to PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties.
[37:09] Kim Monson: If they solve the problem, then kind of their power goes away.
[37:12] Kim Monson: And so it seems like they're not serious about solving the problem.
[37:17] Greg Walcher: Well, I wouldn't make too much of an issue out of who the chairman is because it changes every year.
[37:24] Greg Walcher: But the problem with the Western Governors Association, as the forum for discussing this issue, is that its members also include California and Arizona and Nevada, but also other states like Washington and Oregon that have so much water they don't know what to do with it, and it's a completely different issue in other states.
[37:44] Greg Walcher: And so we always rely on the Upper Colorado River Commission, which is the official legal representative of Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, and Wyoming, to sort of have it out.
[37:58] Greg Walcher: And I've participated as Colorado's representative in those negotiations for a number of years when I was at DNR.
[38:04] Greg Walcher: And I can tell you, they get very testy and very touchy because California does not want to change anything about its historic use of water.
[38:13] Greg Walcher: This compact was negotiated in the 1920s, and California has been using more than its entitled share ever since.
[38:19] Greg Walcher: So going back to irrigators in the Imperial Valley and saying you have to change the way you use water is just sort of a non-starter for them.
[38:27] Greg Walcher: And even in the current negotiation with the Bureau, the Imperial Irrigation District, which is by far the largest water rights owner on the Colorado River, is essentially saying, well, you're going to have to get it from Arizona because we're senior.
[38:40] Greg Walcher: So they're still not taking the issue very seriously, and that tells me they think they're going to win this battle.
[38:47] Greg Walcher: Colorado, for its part, should be saying to the Bureau of Reclamation, absolutely not.
[38:52] Greg Walcher: We're not going to reduce our use of water when we're already using a million acre feet less than we're entitled to.
[38:58] Greg Walcher: And you have no authority to order us to do that.
[39:02] Greg Walcher: So far, Colorado is relatively silent on the issue, but that ought to be the position we should take.
[39:10] Kim Monson: As I'm looking over here, changing the subject just a little bit, This was Tuesday, July 26th, and it said Governor Polis, as chair of the Bipartisan Western Governors Association, outlines geothermal opportunities for Colorado and the West.
[39:26] Kim Monson: It says the Polis administration continues to make progress toward achieving 100%renewable energy by 2040.
[40:03] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts about this, Greg Walcher?
[40:09] Greg Walcher: I think if it were actually cheaper and would save people lots of money, we'd already be doing it.
[40:13] Greg Walcher: So my concern about it, I guess, is the government paying for it, which tells you that the economics of it aren't quite right.
[40:20] Greg Walcher: If in Colorado's case, if it weren't also accompanied by this constant unending attack on the oil and gas and coal industries, I'd be a little more comfortable about it.
[40:32] Greg Walcher: But when we begin the discussion by saying we're going to be fossil fuel free, it just tells you that there's a political agenda there that has nothing to do with consumers and the price of gas.
[40:43] Greg Walcher: So I'm nervous about the initiative only from that point of view.
[40:49] Greg Walcher: The Earth is essentially one big giant fireball of energy.
[40:53] Greg Walcher: If you can, you know, if you drill into the Earth's core, you're going to find more energy than, then we know what to do with it.
[41:00] Greg Walcher: So I'm totally comfortable with the governor's assertion that there's plenty of energy there.
[41:05] Greg Walcher: I'm just not sure, I guess, why the government has to go get it.
[41:14] Kim Monson: He is an expert regarding natural resources.
[41:17] Kim Monson: His book, Smoking the Mouth, The Theft of the Environment and How to Take It Back, is a very important book.
[41:24] Kim Monson: But before we go to break, though, a nonprofit that I've adopted is the USMC Memorial Foundation.
[41:29] Kim Monson: They are raising money to remodel the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax.
[41:37] Kim Monson: It's a beautiful memorial, for sure, but it needs an update.
[41:42] Kim Monson: Paula Sarlls and her team, and Paula is a Vietnam- eraMarine veteran, and she is a Gold Star wife.
[41:49] Kim Monson: They are raising money to get this remodel done.
[41:52] Kim Monson: And you can help them by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.
[42:00] Kim Monson: We'll be right back with Greg Walcher.
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[44:52] Kim Monson: I'm pleased to have on the line with me greg walcher.
[44:55] Kim Monson: He served in the governor's cabinet as head of colorado department of natural resources.
[44:59] Kim Monson: He's the author of the book smoking them out: the theft of the environment and how to take it back.
[45:05] Kim Monson: Greg Walcher, I want to talk about the intensity of these forest fires in the West.
[45:13] Kim Monson: Forest fires, we've always had forest fires.
[45:16] Kim Monson: And in fact, my understanding is that the Native Americans would use kind of, I would say, a controlled burn in the springtime when we've had a lot of moisture.
[45:29] Kim Monson: They would actually set forest fires to manage the forests.
[45:33] Kim Monson: And so forest management is really important, but I feel that this is another public policy disaster because we've not managed our forests, the fires have gotten more and more intense, and it doesn't have to be this way, does it, Greg?
[45:47] Greg Walcher: It doesn't, and it's another thing that so many people fail to understand, I guess, is fire is definitely a part of nature and always has been.
[45:58] Greg Walcher: It has been used to maintain healthy stands in forests and prairies and all of the rest, not only by nature but by man for decades.
[46:06] Greg Walcher: What people need to understand is that the fires we're seeing in the last 20 years or so are not natural, nothing natural about it.
[46:14] Greg Walcher: What happened was at the turn of the last century.
[46:18] Greg Walcher: With the creation of the Forest Service, the federal government essentially decided not to allow fire anymore, and so they put out all forest fires for more than a century.
[46:26] Greg Walcher: But the forest didn't grow unnaturally dense because the role of fire was essentially replaced with the role of logging and thinning and lumber operations and so on.
[46:42] Greg Walcher: For all of those years, except 25 years ago or so, the federal government declared war on the logging industry as well and essentially stopped that and replaced it with absolutely nothing.
[46:51] Greg Walcher: And so we've had 20 or 30 years now of nonstop growth that has resulted in these huge tinderboxes on the national forests that are way overgrown, far beyond what nature would have done.
[47:03] Greg Walcher: So we now have forests all over the Rocky Mountains, from New Mexico to British Columbia, that are populated with stands of trees that in nature would be maybe 50 per acre and are now 900 and 1, 000trees per acre.
[47:17] Greg Walcher: Plus all the brush and grasses and all the rest that a natural fire regime would have taken care of.
[47:23] Greg Walcher: And so now, whenever lightning strikes or someone throws a cigarette out the window, or whatever it may be.
[47:28] Greg Walcher: Now the fire doesn't just burn through the understory and kill all the little stuff and maintain the old trees like it used to.
[47:36] Greg Walcher: Now it grows into the crown of trees and destroys everything.
[47:42] Greg Walcher: it destroys the forest in a way that generations later it still won't be recovered from.
[47:49] Kim Monson: Why has the federal government, why have policymakers not addressed this?
[47:57] Greg Walcher: Well, for one thing, they spent a generation killing the logging industry, and it became such an ingrained part of the federal mindset at the Forest Service.
[48:12] Greg Walcher: That when we evolve to a point now, where most of the public understands that the forests are overgrown and need to be thinned back to a more natural condition, now there's nobody with a chainsaw left that they can work with.
[48:24] Greg Walcher: So now you get federal officials saying, we need partnerships with the industry to restore the forests, and there is no industry.
[48:32] Greg Walcher: 900 sawmills all over California, for example, closed in 10 years.
[48:38] Greg Walcher: There is no really commercial- sizedtimber mill left in Colorado, not a single one.
[48:45] Greg Walcher: The timber industry in this state used to have gigantic conferences I used to go to in hotel ballrooms.
[48:52] Greg Walcher: Today they meet in one corner of a little restaurant and five people show up.
[48:56] Greg Walcher: There's just nothing left for the federal government to worry about.
[49:00] Greg Walcher: And, by the way, this was a very easy transition from the earlier conversation about water, because it's another example of where the federal government simply refuses to acknowledge the role that it has played in creating this gigantic drought that we have in all of the rivers.
[49:14] Greg Walcher: Forests being overgrown is a massive part of the problem, where huge amounts of water that fall in Colorado never make it to the rivers.
[49:22] Greg Walcher: It literally evaporates off of the branches and needles and leaves of trees before it ever even gets to the ground.
[49:30] Greg Walcher: And if it gets to the ground, because the forest is so overgrown, it's soaked up right away by all of the dense growth of material in the forest.
[49:39] Greg Walcher: So it's no wonder the rivers are way lower than they're supposed to be.
[49:42] Kim Monson: Boy, my friend Jill Vacchio has always said when government gets involved, the price goes up, the quality goes down, and the supply becomes limited.
[49:51] Kim Monson: And that seems pretty true across the spectrum.
[49:55] Greg Walcher: It used to be a common expression if you want to mess anything up.
[50:02] Greg Walcher: But it's all of this in previous conversations about the energy situation.
[50:16] Greg Walcher: The government declares war on the oil and gas industry, declares war on the logging industry, starts remanaging Lake Powell so they can drain it for endangered fish and so on.
[50:21] Greg Walcher: And, you know, the next thing you know, based on using climate change as the excuse, they're essentially suggesting massive fundamental transformations in the way our society does business with respect to energy and water and everything in between.
[50:37] Kim Monson: Well, and it really makes it very difficult for the American middle class and for those that are trying to move up the economic ladder.
[50:45] Kim Monson: I'm just thinking about housing costs.
[50:47] Kim Monson: We have this whole conversation about affordable housing or making housing affordable.
[50:53] Kim Monson: Well, housing has gotten more and more expensive because government has gotten involved.
[50:57] Kim Monson: It's, again, another public policy decisions that are made where, you know, urban growth boundaries.
[51:06] Kim Monson: But I was just thinking about this closing down, shutting down the logging industry.
[51:13] Kim Monson: Well, the wood for our homes, the timber for our homes, obviously, if you shut down that industry, we're going to have to get it someplace else.
[51:21] Kim Monson: But it's going to be more expensive.
[51:22] Kim Monson: All these things make it more and more difficult for the American middle class, Greg.
[51:28] Greg Walcher: And, of course, in that sense, it isn't a whole different subject.
[51:32] Greg Walcher: It's a whole other aspect of the same subject.
[51:35] Greg Walcher: You know, you can look around Colorado and find billions and billions, literally, aboard feet of timber, standing in the forest, dying and rotting and falling down and burning up, while the price of a 2x4 in Home Depot is going from$ 7 to$ 8, and who knows how high it goes eventually.
[51:54] Greg Walcher: And I'm not suggesting, by the way, that the, I don't mean to say that the climate doesn't change or that that whole, there's a difference between actual climate change and the climate change political agenda, right?
[52:05] Greg Walcher: So government uses it as an excuse, even though the climate has changed and the rivers do have less water in them than they used to.
[52:12] Greg Walcher: What grates on me, though, is the government failing to acknowledge that it has some responsibility for that.
[52:18] Greg Walcher: So if we really want to talk about the drought and the amount of water in the rivers, it seems to me we ought to start that conversation with the management of the forests and the public lands, because it's directly related to the amount of water in the rivers.
[52:32] Greg Walcher: And yet it's the one conversation they don't want to have.
[52:35] Kim Monson: It seems to me, and I'm not a political expert, but my gosh, it seems to me that somebody running for office that would really have this straight talk with our citizens about this, it seems to me like that would be a successful political move to make.
[52:53] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts about that, Greg?
[52:57] Greg Walcher: Well, I think it is a good issue, and there is an old adage that good policy makes good politics.
[53:03] Greg Walcher: So I'm not a political expert in the sense of campaigns and candidates and elections either, but it just seems to me that if you talk plain, ordinary common sense and tell the truth about these issues, that people readily understand and agree and will do the right thing.
[53:21] Greg Walcher: So many candidates seem like they've got some other agenda than that, and so we've evolved into such a partisan situation now, where both sides just want to make the other side look bad.
[53:33] Greg Walcher: And in a sense, both sides have kind of an incentive, a self-interest in not solving some of these problems, as you said earlier.
[53:43] Greg Walcher: They're great wedge issues, and it's a great way to criticize the other side.
[53:47] Greg Walcher: And frankly, I don't care what caused these issues.
[53:50] Greg Walcher: People will argue about whether climate change is ultimately responsible for some of these environmental changes.
[53:59] Greg Walcher: I know people are very divided about it, but I don't care what caused it.
[54:02] Greg Walcher: We ought to be coming together and talking about how to solve it and how to fix it, and what the solutions are.
[54:08] Greg Walcher: But that's very difficult to get people together to do that now.
[54:13] Kim Monson: And if you take a look at the creativity and innovation of the human mind, I mean, we were able to put a man on the moon when we actually got serious about solving a problem.
[54:28] Kim Monson: And Greg, you're really on the forefront of talking about these issues reasonably.
[54:37] Kim Monson: How would you like to finish up this conversation?
[54:40] Greg Walcher: These issues can be solved and they will be solved.
[54:44] Greg Walcher: Actually, what created the most prosperous society in the history of the world was freeing of the human mind.
[54:49] Greg Walcher: And when people are free to develop and build and explore and create new things and to reap the benefits of their work, they will.
[55:01] Greg Walcher: And we will find a solution out of this with ever-increasing technology and ever-increasing better ways to do things.
[55:08] Greg Walcher: It would be great if some of these frustrating government policies would get out of the way, but I'm fairly optimistic.
[55:15] Kim Monson: I appreciate all the work that you do and all the knowledge you share with us.
[55:23] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is from Theodore Roosevelt.
[55:41] Kim Monson: and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[55:46] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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[57:43] Kim Monson: Happy Friday to you, Producer Steve.
[57:45] Producer Steve: Finally, fantastic Friday, yes.
[57:49] Producer Steve: And don't think for a second when that list, which started out with three or four items, is now up to seven, that things are static in this country.
[57:55] Producer Steve: They are not.
[57:58] Kim Monson: And we've got a special treat for you today.
[58:00] Kim Monson: Steven Peck is in studio, and it is your birthday.
[58:11] Steven Peck: I was born in 1983, so I'm bringing up the, I was one of the first, one of the older ones.
[58:21] Steven Peck: As long as we're picking things to identify as, I'm going to be a Gen Xer more than a millennial.
[58:27] Steven Peck: Well, I don't know what the technical definition is, but you've got the people that are born in between the boomers and the millennials, and I think they're going to save the country.
[58:43] Kim Monson: That would be your Gen Xers then, huh?
[58:47] Steven Peck: I'm saying that when I relate to people, I feel like I relate better with the Gen X.
[58:53] Steven Peck: No, that's Gen Z, if we're talking about all these crazy generations.
[59:02] Kim Monson: Well, we have a country that we're all worried about, but you are optimistic that we're going to save it, huh?
[59:11] Steven Peck: And my hope is that people see what's going on here and that they're going to get involved and that they're going to take back every council seat, every school board seat, every local parks and trails committee person and step into this tradition that we have in America of participating in self-government.
[59:33] Steven Peck: Because if we don't govern ourselves individually in this call to action that you have at the beginning of the show, then there's no prayer of us ever being able to be responsible for the larger self-government of our communities and of our states and cities.
[59:51] Kim Monson: Well, and Steve, when we talk about local government, I realize that the most local of all government is ourselves.
[59:58] Kim Monson: So governing ourselves, then it goes to our families and our communities.
[60:03] Kim Monson: And that's really the bedrock of the American idea.
[60:07] Steven Peck: And that's exactly what I was getting at.
[60:11] Steven Peck: Self-government starts with governing ourselves, taking responsibility for our own actions, taking responsibility for our own streets or churches or small businesses and schools.
[60:24] Steven Peck: And sometimes, you know, people think, well, you know, I don't have that extra time to get involved, but they are getting involved.
[60:31] Steven Peck: Lots of organic questions that are being asked and people affiliating with groups that didn't exist three years ago.
[60:40] Steven Peck: And they're trying to figure out the process.
[60:43] Steven Peck: And it's, you know, you got a lot of newcomers, which makes me feel optimistic.
[60:51] Kim Monson: And you mentioned all these different organizations.
[60:53] Kim Monson: I started a women's group back in 2013 just to get together, women to get together to talk about different issues.
[61:02] Kim Monson: And we called it Wine and Tapas to Save the Republic.
[61:07] Kim Monson: And then there are the other ones are called Tapas and Topics.
[61:10] Kim Monson: And so if any of you are out there interested, you know, just send me an email and I can probably get you connected.
[61:17] Kim Monson: But we have a really vibrant group of Tapas and Topics in southwest Jeffco, one down in MacArthur's Ranch.
[61:22] Kim Monson: Dynamic group up in boulder, dynamic group up in fort collins, and a new one is starting in estes park.
[61:28] Steven Peck: Yeah, that's the kind of thing that I'm talking about.
[61:31] Steven Peck: There's other groups that that I'm not familiar with.
[61:34] Steven Peck: Uh, we the women, uh liberty girls, uh freedom fathers.
[61:39] Steven Peck: As they grit to be, get to be a certain size, it becomes kind of difficult and unmanageable.
[61:45] Steven Peck: And then there's- and it's a good problem to have, yeah, right.
[61:48] Steven Peck: And and then they kind of spin off these different organizations as the interest becomes more defined and people organically just start to associate in different ways.
[62:05] Kim Monson: I normally do a quote for the day, and I chose Teddy Roosevelt since we had Greg Walter on in our number one talking about natural resources, because Teddy Roosevelt was known as a conservationist.
[62:15] Kim Monson: He was an American politician, statesman, conservationist, naturalist, historian, and writer.
[62:20] Kim Monson: He was the 26th president of the United States.
[62:25] Kim Monson: And the first quote that I had was very humorous.
[62:30] Kim Monson: He said, when they called the role in the Senate, the senators do not know whether to answer present or not guilty.
[62:36] Kim Monson: And that was then, and we're here now, and we need to be electing people of high character.
[62:43] Kim Monson: And I am going to go to the quote for the end of the show as well, because this reminds me of just what you're saying.
[62:49] Kim Monson: Again, Teddy Roosevelt, he says, do something now.
[63:03] Kim Monson: Before we do that, though, one of my new sponsors is the Christian Home Educators of Colorado, CHEC.
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[63:52] Steven Peck: Yeah, I was just going to say what an awesome group, what an awesome opportunity.
[63:55] Steven Peck: I mean, people are fleeing their district schools because they're.
[64:02] Steven Peck: You know, they saw that remote learning was not learning.
[64:04] Steven Peck: They saw that their voices were not being heard at school boards and they're voting with their feet.
[64:08] Steven Peck: So this is: this sounds like a great, uh great organization.
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[66:09] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[66:16] Kim Monson: You should not have force people to do it.
[66:18] Kim Monson: And in studio with me is stephen peck, and he's formerly a lieutenant commander in the navy medical service corps, former director of the on the douglas county school board and vice chair of the douglas county gop.
[66:36] Kim Monson: Before we get into this, as you know, I have the.
[66:40] Kim Monson: Other show, and that is America's Veterans Stories.
[66:42] Kim Monson: And we founded the show because in 2016 I had the honor of going to Normandy with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans back to Normandy to celebrate the anniversary of the D-Day landings, and so I came back and realized these stories need to be recorded and broadcast and archived.
[67:04] Kim Monson: So hence America's Veterans Stories.
[67:06] Kim Monson: So I was introduced to Fred Weiss, 97-year-old World War II veteran.
[67:26] Kim Monson: And then he introduced me to Dick Gibbs.
[67:29] Kim Monson: So I took the rig out yesterday and interviewed Dick Gibbs, 98 years old, 45 combat missions, a P-51 pilot.
[67:39] Kim Monson: And we're going to broadcast that this Sunday.
[67:42] Kim Monson: What an honor to get to interview these guys.
[67:44] Kim Monson: But P-51s, I asked him, I said, so P-51, tell me about that airplane.
[67:49] Kim Monson: And he said, well, think about the most incredible car, you know, with high precision that you could drive.
[67:56] Kim Monson: And he said it would be even better than that.
[68:00] Kim Monson: So that's going to be this Sunday, 3 to 4 p.
[68:03] Kim Monson: Okay, Steven Peck, you're a busy guy, and you're stepping up because you care so much about our country and what we're passing on to the kids, our children.
[68:14] Kim Monson: The FBI is a little out of control right now, huh?
[68:21] Steven Peck: I appreciate the opportunity to come on to your show and talk and talk about things locally, things happening at the national level.
[68:30] Steven Peck: You know, what happened at the FBI, I truly believe was a Rubicon crossing moment.
[68:41] Steven Peck: And I think, you know, we don't have the scope of history.
[68:45] Steven Peck: And we won't have that for four years to come.
[68:47] Steven Peck: But I think as you tell America's story, you know, decades from now, and the way that these gentlemen that you're interviewing are doing, what happened on the 8th of August, I think will go down as a bookend of one of the chapters in American history, which sounds pretty dramatic.
[69:03] Steven Peck: But what happened was exceedingly dramatic.
[69:08] Steven Peck: Because in many ways, Mar-a-Lago, I mean, it's not just a beautiful house on the water down in Florida.
[69:16] Steven Peck: It is the president's, the former president's house.
[69:25] Steven Peck: So to have the FBI come in and raid it, it's just, it's never happened before.
[69:32] Steven Peck: And I think once this has been crossed, there's no going back now.
[69:38] Steven Peck: And so when Julius Caesar comes back from Gaul and is coming back to Rome and he wants some guarantees from his political enemies there about the safety and security of his well-being, and those guarantees aren't acknowledged, he's marching in with his own army.
[69:58] Steven Peck: And then ultimately he ends up becoming the dictator.
[70:03] Steven Peck: And I just think what we see with our law enforcement agencies and our intelligence gathering agencies is is so.
[70:10] Steven Peck: It's so over the top now that anything less than I mean, they're at war with with the American people.
[70:18] Steven Peck: they've weaponized for political purposes, their own, their own policing and intelligence gathering efforts.
[70:27] Steven Peck: And it's amazing because there's some people that are saying, well, you know, let's just let's see what the, if they've got the goods, you know, they'll phrase it this way.
[70:38] Steven Peck: Or they'll say, you know, let's just take a wait and see posture.
[70:41] Steven Peck: And I just scratched my head because this is not like it's an isolated incident.
[70:49] Steven Peck: I mean, this is just the list that I know of off the top of my head.
[71:00] Steven Peck: Three-star general Michael Flynn, former head of the NSA for about two weeks, his house was raided.
[71:13] Steven Peck: Peter Navarro, his house was raided Rudy Giuliani's house was raided At some point you have to say, what is going on here?
[71:25] Kim Monson: That is, well, then you take a look at the 87, 000new IRS agents And so everyday people's houses will be raided Absolutely, and they might not bang down your door Or maybe they will.
[71:45] Steven Peck: You've got a radio show and you talk about the obvious.
[71:49] Kim Monson: Which a lot of people don't talk about.
[71:55] Steven Peck: No, but I mean, it's not like one of these kind of, hey, if there's smoke, there's fire.
[72:04] Steven Peck: And we're not even talking about the distant past where you can talk about the 76 people that were killed at Waco, women and children.
[72:15] Steven Peck: You're not talking about Ruby Ridge or the things that are in the distant past.
[72:19] Steven Peck: We're just talking about the last couple of years.
[72:22] Steven Peck: I want to also point out that it was the FBI and this ridiculous Steele dossier that they used as a pretext for the political witch hunt that took place over the first, really first few years of Trump's administration.
[72:45] Steven Peck: So if they're going to just make up dossiers, if they're going to hijack and weaponize the FISA process through those FISA courts, through doctored documents, and then turn around and go after political appointments.
[73:09] Steven Peck: I mean, what else can you conclude other than this is not just a...
[73:18] Steven Peck: I mean, so whatever kind of pretext they have for, well, you know, I think the stated reasons are, well, he wasn't willing to give some sort of documents for the National Archives.
[73:35] Kim Monson: And apparently, I was watching some of the news stories or news shows last night, and apparently Obama took truckloads of documents.
[73:45] Kim Monson: That he was going to, he wanted to digitize them and he would give them back, but he didn't give them back.
[73:51] Kim Monson: Stephen, you said a word here, and Steve, producer Steve and I talk about this all the time, and that is the battle of the narrative.
[74:00] Kim Monson: So one of the things, and national people, I wish they wouldn't do it.
[74:05] Kim Monson: We had Dick Morrison on yesterday, and he refers to Democrats as democratic.
[74:08] Kim Monson: There's nothing democratic about that.
[74:18] Kim Monson: But what you said was law enforcement.
[74:20] Kim Monson: And that's been a word that I've been thinking about for quite some time.
[74:23] Kim Monson: Because it used to be our police officers were referred to as peacekeepers.
[74:29] Kim Monson: And when we talk about law enforcement, and Americans really are a law- abidingsociety, but the laws are supposed to stand up to the litmus test of the Constitution.
[74:45] Kim Monson: So when you have people that are in office that are of not great character, that don't uphold the Constitution, that pass laws that are not constitutional, that they're bad laws, and then you would have law enforcement enforcing bad laws.
[75:01] Kim Monson: I think I'm taking issue with the word law enforcement.
[75:05] Kim Monson: I think that we should really start to go back to or reclaim the term peace officers, peacekeepers.
[75:14] Steven Peck: Well, and John Adams talked about, and I don't have the exact quote, but he said, you know, this government was meant for a moral and just people and is wholly unfit for any other, that this constitution will not stand.
[75:27] Steven Peck: It'll be like a whale cutting through a net, right?
[75:32] Steven Peck: And so when you have people in positions of authority, right?
[75:34] Steven Peck: Whether they're a local police officer, a state trooper or FBI agent, but they're willing to lie and doctor evidence, plant evidence.
[75:45] Steven Peck: I mean, and by the way, we don't know if the FBI planted evidence because they didn't allow the staff there at Mar- a-Lagoto even accompany them.
[75:56] Steven Peck: So how do we know that they didn't plant evidence?
[75:59] Steven Peck: I mean, it raises all kinds of questions.
[76:05] Steven Peck: And this goes all the way up to the top because Merrick Garland yesterday said it was him.
[76:11] Steven Peck: You know, he's probably bragging about the fact, well, no one's above the law, except for there's this asymmetrical application of the law, right?
[76:19] Steven Peck: When Hillary Clinton has these 33, 000emails that were subpoenaed and then they just mysteriously disappear, well, that's different because she was running for president.
[76:32] Steven Peck: What James Comey, the head of the FBI at that time, said was, due to the fact that she is a candidate for the highest office in the land, basically the rules didn't apply to her.
[76:48] Kim Monson: Okay, I'm going to ask you if you remember this.
[76:52] Kim Monson: So it's been a long time since I've had her on.
[76:57] Kim Monson: She is fantastic and a great investigative reporter.
[77:00] Kim Monson: And the government agency, now I can't remember if it was the DOJ or the FBI or if it was both of them, but they actually were spying on her.
[77:18] Kim Monson: Yeah, well, honestly, but what she said is they had actually gone into her computer and she was at her computer, did not have her hand on the cursor and and and and the her um cursor is moving around, moving around and it was a message to her that basically I think to scare her and I asked her.
[77:46] Kim Monson: And um so I said, was uh Comey the head of the FBI at that time?
[77:49] Kim Monson: And she said, No, at that time, the head of the FBI was Robert Mueller.
[77:53] Kim Monson: I hadn't really connected that dot until she said that.
[77:57] Steven Peck: Well, I think there has been and actually, this this is kind of a broader topic, but I'll try to stay on it.
[78:06] Steven Peck: I think there's this tendency among Americans to just trust that our leaders, whether they're local electeds or or u.
[78:16] Steven Peck: Ssenators, or um, you know our, our sheriff, that that they're, that they're just good people doing the right thing, and I think they have our best interests in mind.
[78:25] Steven Peck: Right, and I do believe that in general that is the case, but it only takes a couple of very corrupt and power hungry people in positions of high authority, like you see, at the fbi and um, and they're, they're.
[78:40] Steven Peck: I mean, you just think it's an accident that 90 days before a midterm election that Mar- a-Lagois raided?
[78:48] Steven Peck: That is a political act meant to send a political message to intimidate political opponents.
[78:55] Kim Monson: That's exactly what is occurring there.
[78:57] Kim Monson: And that is why we as American citizens have to realize that this whole American idea is under attack.
[79:06] Kim Monson: And that is why, as you say, we need to step forward local level um be a watchdog on, and I need to.
[79:15] Kim Monson: I I I really need to start to watch my city council closer.
[79:19] Kim Monson: I need to be watching school board I it takes time but but but we can't do all things.
[79:26] Steven Peck: Um, I mean you, you have 24 hours in the day.
[79:30] Steven Peck: What I, I think what you do is because you can't watch all the county commissioner meetings, you can't watch all the school board meetings and really know what, and you can't know what's going on at the state house.
[79:45] Steven Peck: I think what makes more sense to me is find an area of interest and then really be a subject matter expert, so you can then share that expertise with your social circle and then you can be the watchman for that post.
[80:02] Steven Peck: I mean, otherwise, it's kind of like, well, and you know?
[80:09] Kim Monson: Well, and the other thing that I've realized, Steve, and you mentioned, okay, so you have local government, you've got county, you've got state, and you have national.
[80:14] Kim Monson: And they do not make it easy for us to be watchdogs for this.
[80:19] Kim Monson: So, for example, your city council, they now have study session and then they have the meeting, yes, and then sometimes they have an additional strategy meeting and that is just one one evening, and then they have all these boards and commissions and they all meet, and so they make it very difficult for everyday people to really really understand what's going on down at the state house.
[80:47] Kim Monson: I've gone down to testify and the democrats have been in control, and they realize when they might have a room full of people that want to testify, they might change the length of time that people can speak.
[81:06] Kim Monson: The people that would be supporting their idea speak first, and then they may draw it out hours and hours.
[81:11] Kim Monson: In fact, I was down there regarding one of those vaccine bills.
[81:14] Kim Monson: And it went late into the night, there were moms and dads there with strollers, you know, kids, you know, they made it so painful to go down.
[81:24] Kim Monson: And of course, trying to get down and park and it's dangerous and all that.
[81:28] Steven Peck: Oh, yeah, they're not actually interested in hearing those people's opinion.
[81:32] Steven Peck: They've just got to go through the motions and, you know, pretend to listen.
[81:37] Steven Peck: I mean, you see the same thing even at the school board level that, you know, during public comment, and this, again, you kind of have to watch it very closely to see the different iterations of this, but, you know, it would be a respectful gesture to say, look, we want to hear from you first, and so immediately after the pledge, we're going to jump into public comment.
[82:02] Steven Peck: But if you look at the agenda, frequently it's in the back.
[82:07] Steven Peck: And like you said, they can front load their preferred speakers.
[82:10] Steven Peck: But all it would take is somebody at these board meetings to make a motion and move to change the agenda to make it more convenient to be heard.
[82:21] Steven Peck: But in a lot of cases, they don't want to be heard.
[82:29] Kim Monson: and we're talking about, gosh, what's happening in America with these alphabet bureaucracies, which clearly is the fourth branch of government, and at this point they seem pretty powerful.
[82:42] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll continue the conversation with Stephen Peck.
[82:45] Kim Monson: And, of course, the last segment of the show is Collins, 303- 477-5600.
[82:54] Kim Monson: And also, we talked with Greg Walcher in the first hour, So if you have anything to talk about regarding water in the West, these intense fires, I'm talking with Stephen about the FBI.
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[85:13] Kim Monson: He is a former lieutenant commander with the Navy Medical Service Corps, former director of the Douglas County School Board, and vice chair of the Douglas County GOP.
[85:25] Kim Monson: Let's talk a little bit more about Merrick Garland.
[85:30] Kim Monson: He yesterday had a news conference and said that, yes, he made that decision regarding the raid at Mar-a-Lago.
[85:37] Kim Monson: And he had actually been a nominee for the Supreme Court.
[85:42] Kim Monson: And Steve, really in the early 90s, there was this movement to kind of take control of our judiciary at all different levels by activists.
[85:57] Kim Monson: And they've been pretty successful at it.
[86:00] Kim Monson: And I want to just say something about Donald Trump is, first of all, our reaction to what happened down at Mar-a-Lago.
[86:10] Kim Monson: We need to be very measured in our response to that.
[86:15] Kim Monson: I know that there are some people that are really mad about it.
[86:17] Kim Monson: And we need to make sure that we stay very measured and we talk very reasonably about what is happening and shed light on that.
[86:24] Kim Monson: And I really liked Trump's policies.
[86:27] Kim Monson: But also I'm a little concerned about kind of Trump worship and then that that could lead to people maybe reacting badly to this.
[86:42] Kim Monson: That's what they want to have happen.
[86:49] Steven Peck: They want to make a claim about people in a certain category, So call it Trump support writ large, right?
[87:00] Steven Peck: And then you can assign all the labels that we've.
[87:05] Kim Monson: But it was actually Black Lives Matter and Antifa that tore our cities up in 2020.
[87:14] Steven Peck: So a lot of this is projection on their part.
[87:17] Steven Peck: But they're hoping that if by poking the bear, poking the bear, poking the bear, that somebody will eventually react.
[87:23] Steven Peck: And so the way we can collectively react is to not only vote with our dollars and vote at the ballot box.
[87:30] Steven Peck: I mean, we're 90 days away from this election here.
[87:33] Steven Peck: If you win with overwhelming margins, you send a message.
[87:39] Steven Peck: And that's where we need to settle our disputes, at the ballot box.
[87:43] Steven Peck: But you're right about Merrick Garland and the fact that he was, you know, getting back to your point about this.
[87:50] Steven Peck: And if you recall, I think it was Obama who put him forward as the nominee, right?
[87:59] Steven Peck: And Mitch McConnell was Senate Majority Leader.
[88:04] Steven Peck: And he said, no hearings, no votes until the election.
[88:09] Kim Monson: I get frustrated with McConnell, but I really do appreciate that he did that.
[88:14] Steven Peck: He had zero to say about this political act.
[88:18] Steven Peck: And again, I think it has less to do whether you're pro-Trump, anti-Trump is kind of irrelevant, I think.
[88:24] Steven Peck: If you're looking at this objectively, you have this outrageous political statement against a former sitting president.
[88:37] Steven Peck: And so what, Mitch McConnell has nothing to say?
[88:41] Kim Monson: So Cuomo came out and apparently said, this is not good.
[88:48] Steven Peck: I mean, nobody wants to face the facts.
[88:50] Steven Peck: It's kind of like a patient that's got, and I'm not making light of this.
[88:56] Steven Peck: When a doctor has a tough diagnosis, right, and you have to break that news, the terrible news that maybe you have stage three or four cancer and your time is limited.
[89:09] Steven Peck: People's reaction to that is varied, but frequently it's denial.
[89:14] Steven Peck: And I think in some ways we're that sick patient in denial about where our three-letter agencies are, where we are as a country.
[89:29] Steven Peck: It's hard to accept the fact that our FBI has been totally politicized and that they're no longer trustworthy.
[89:39] Steven Peck: And anything short, I'm speaking only for myself here, anything short of complete eradication of the FBI would be a half measure in my mind.
[89:47] Steven Peck: They should take that Hoover building, raise it to the ground, and turn it into a memorial to the people at Waco.
[89:56] Kim Monson: So let's talk a little bit about the IRS.
[90:00] Kim Monson: So you're talking about the FBI has been weaponized against political opponents.
[90:04] Kim Monson: the IRS, 87,000 new agents, and one of the excuses is we want to give better customer service.
[90:14] Kim Monson: You know, answer the phones a little quicker.
[90:18] Kim Monson: I'm here from the government, and I'm here to help.
[90:21] Kim Monson: Yeah, which strikes terror in everybody's mind.
[90:26] Kim Monson: This Democrat Party is willing to weaponize 87,000 new IRS agents against the American people.
[90:35] Kim Monson: Well, at the same time, there are criminals and people that are coming here for free stuff pouring across the border.
[90:43] Kim Monson: And they're doing nothing to protect the American people from that.
[90:47] Kim Monson: But yet, I mean, it's almost like these people hate Americans.
[90:53] Steven Peck: I mean, they're trying to capsize this ship of state.
[90:58] Steven Peck: And again, it's hard to accept that as a reality because what that means then, you follow down a line of thinking that's very uncomfortable.
[91:10] Steven Peck: I don't like it any more than the next person.
[91:20] Steven Peck: It's not like, well, if this happens or if that happens or let's wait and find out.
[91:27] Steven Peck: So, you know, when you talk about these 87,000 new IRS agents, maybe they're not banging in your door, but they're banging in your bank account.
[91:45] Steven Peck: Lowest learner who, back in 2012, 2013, was using information that the IRS has about people's giving and their political activity to go after and disproportionately audit people that were on the wrong side of the political aisle.
[92:04] Steven Peck: On a moment ago, you said the Democrat Party.
[92:08] Steven Peck: I would say it's true of both parties at a certain level.
[92:13] Steven Peck: People that are Republicans kind of hide behind the fact that they're, well, I'm a Republican, so, you know, I'm on your side.
[92:27] Steven Peck: I mean, Christopher Wray, as the left pointed out again and again, was appointed by Donald Trump.
[92:35] Steven Peck: That doesn't explain why he allowed his department, again and again over the last few years, to bang in these doors to make these political statements that are clearly political statements, meant to intimidate, to silence, to demoralize.
[92:57] Kim Monson: And the other thing is, though, is running out the clock.
[93:00] Kim Monson: and I see it here in Colorado regarding election integrity, running out the clock.
[93:09] Kim Monson: And I had a guest on it and we talked about election manipulation, which that can be lawful.
[93:18] Kim Monson: I mean, the fact that we are papering the state with mail-in ballots, I guess it's lawful to do it, but it's not right.
[93:28] Kim Monson: It's not right to not clean up our voters' rolls.
[93:31] Kim Monson: That's not right, but that's lawful.
[93:33] Kim Monson: But then there is also, I think, actual fraud that is also occurring as well.
[93:41] Kim Monson: And here in Colorado, on neither side of the aisle has anybody been serious about checking this out.
[93:50] Kim Monson: And I just think that they're going to try to run the clock out into this next election.
[93:55] Steven Peck: Well, probably a topic that could take up an entire show, the election integrity question.
[94:02] Steven Peck: I don't believe that Joe Biden won 81 million votes.
[94:08] Steven Peck: I mean, he couldn't draw, he couldn't fill half an airplane hangar at a rally like two weeks before the election.
[94:14] Steven Peck: You're telling me 81 million people did it?
[94:17] Steven Peck: It doesn't pass the smell test, does it?
[94:21] Steven Peck: And there's lots of smoke around that election.
[94:23] Steven Peck: how they manipulated the election and to what degree.
[94:28] Steven Peck: You can say, well, yes, there was cheating, but there's cheating in every election at some level.
[94:34] Steven Peck: They're just not significant enough to matter.
[94:41] Steven Peck: So in my capacity with the Douglas County Republican Party, I've learned more about the election process than I've known up until this last year.
[94:52] Steven Peck: So one of the things that we do in Douglas County- I think it's done in every county across the state- is the chair has to appoint somebody from our party and then somebody from the Democrat Party to go down to the county clerk's office and do a logic and accuracy test before the election.
[95:12] Steven Peck: And it basically includes, we can get into the details or not, but basically it's, yes, these machines work.
[95:23] Steven Peck: See, we're doing everything above board.
[95:26] Steven Peck: And it was an interesting process to be a part of.
[95:32] Steven Peck: And I think that Douglas County is running a very tight ship, just to be very clear.
[95:37] Steven Peck: But then after that, you run an audit after the election of a statistically significant sample size to make sure that there's no questions.
[95:48] Steven Peck: So if a ballot comes through and there's mixed messages on the ballot that goes to two people, again, up on monitors, and one's a Democrat, one's a Republican, and then there's a human looking at this ballot and saying, yes, this was the intent of the voter or no, this kind of process.
[96:07] Steven Peck: So I agree with you that the mail-in ballots are ridiculous.
[96:16] Steven Peck: We should go back to a time where everybody votes the same day on Election Day in person.
[96:23] Kim Monson: We already have Ron on the line, Ron in Denver.
[96:26] Kim Monson: So I want to hear what he has to say.
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[99:22] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[99:27] Kim Monson: In studio with me is Stephen Peck, a former lieutenant commander with the Navy Medical Service Corps, former director of the Douglas County School Board and a vice chair of the Douglas County GOP.
[99:41] Kim Monson: Hey, Ron in Denver, you have been patient.
[99:45] Ron from Denver: Yeah, Kim, hang with me here.
[99:48] Ron from Denver: I've been wondering, trying to understand why they're doing what they're doing to America.
[99:56] Ron from Denver: And I've been trying to throw this around and find the reason.
[100:00] Ron from Denver: reasoning behind Soros and all these other people.
[100:04] Ron from Denver: And you have Dr.
[100:08] Ron from Denver: Mangala, which is Fauci.
[100:10] Ron from Denver: And then you have this IRS agent, 80 plus thousand, which is pretty much the SS.
[100:20] Ron from Denver: And then you have, you know, what they're doing.
[100:24] Ron from Denver: It seems to me like they're trying to turn it into a Germany back in the day, because I don't understand why they're trying to destroy America and our values and our ways.
[100:41] Ron from Denver: And it just seems to be, that's my, that's the only observation I could come up with.
[100:54] Kim Monson: And so many people cannot believe that there would be people in our government that would want to destroy America.
[101:05] Kim Monson: I'm going to see if you look like you have something you'd like to say on that.
[101:08] Steven Peck: I think that they see it totally differently.
[101:12] Steven Peck: I think that they think that they're helping.
[101:14] Steven Peck: And what I mean by that is there's a couple of things that they believe that we totally reject.
[101:20] Steven Peck: And one of them is, you know, for example, that Trump is the real authoritarian.
[101:27] Steven Peck: Do you remember back when he was running?
[101:35] Steven Peck: Who's getting us out of wars and who's starting new wars?
[101:38] Steven Peck: And who is the real threat here when it comes to weaponizing intelligence-gathering agencies and all these three-letter agencies?
[101:50] Steven Peck: Ask yourself, was it Donald Trump who was giving more authority and autonomy to states and the people?
[101:58] Steven Peck: Or is it the– and I think it's a bipartisan thing in D.
[102:01] Steven Peck: It's like its own vortex of power there.
[102:07] Steven Peck: And they don't really care if you're a Democrat or a Republican, as long as you are feathering the nest of people in D.
[102:18] Steven Peck: The other thing is that when they think about America, I'm talking about the progressive, hardcore left, they see it as– The collectivists, yeah.
[102:27] Steven Peck: This is why they're so adamant about renaming schools and military bases and streets and holidays, because George Washington and the patriots that founded this country, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Sam Adams, John Hancock, these people are irredeemably racist in their views that the Constitution was born out of this original sin and that everything needs to be replaced.
[102:54] Steven Peck: because, well, after all, it was framed 246 years ago, and the paradigm through which they saw the world was based in things that we, quote- unquote, nolonger believe in.
[103:05] Steven Peck: So they think that they're helping, that they're saving the world by diminishing or at least changing America's role in it.
[103:15] Ron from Denver: So what about the 87, 000 IRS,which from your guest yesterday, they're kind of brainwashed.
[103:26] Ron from Denver: They're kind of like really into it.
[103:29] Ron from Denver: So kind of like the SS, you know.
[103:35] Ron from Denver: And I know it's kind of out there on the outfield, but that's what you do is you get radicals.
[103:45] Ron from Denver: You get people who have no other belief other than what they're doing is right.
[103:48] Ron from Denver: And then they can retaliate against their own people.
[103:52] Steven Peck: Well, the ESS, I'm not comfortable with that comparison because they were obviously not just compliant and complicit, but they were actively carrying out death squads.
[104:07] Kim Monson: Well, no, no, I, ron, I uh, with the, with the, with the fact that the, that they actually were advertising for agents who would be willing to use deadly force, and the fact that the irs has been, um has firearms and they've been buying ammunition.
[104:31] Kim Monson: First of all, when I understand, I'll give you.
[104:36] Ron from Denver: Let you guys hash it out.
[104:37] Ron from Denver: Thanks ron.
[104:38] Kim Monson: You threw it in the middle of the table and now you're leaving, huh, throw this grenade out there, that that that is weird.
[104:46] Steven Peck: I think they've actually removed that.
[104:47] Steven Peck: Uh yeah, because people found out it's ridiculous.
[104:50] Steven Peck: Why does an irs agent who's responsible for collecting taxes need to be equipped to use deadly force?
[104:58] Kim Monson: Ron's point is, first of all these people like soros I I.
[105:11] Kim Monson: I've been listening to the book on fauci from rfk jr and this is pure evil, and I think most americans, um you know, are good people and and so this idea of this evil and those that would want to destroy America.
[105:24] Kim Monson: It's really a difficult thing to get our brain around.
[105:26] Kim Monson: But it is what we are seeing right now.
[105:29] Kim Monson: So that is why we as Americans must step forward.
[105:33] Kim Monson: When I say this is our time, I'm serious about it.
[105:38] Steven Peck: Like Reagan said, we're only one generation away, and it's on our watch.
[105:45] Steven Peck: But this is why the battle in schools is so important, because every year we're pumping out a new graduating class of people that have been told again and again that their country is born out of this original sin, that we need radical change.
[106:00] Steven Peck: You know, President Obama in 2008 said he would bring fundamental transformation to this country.
[106:09] Kim Monson: Quickly, Rosemary in Fort Collins, we've got a minute.
[106:13] Rosemary from Fort Collins: Okay, I can tell you that the left is totally the termites in the timber of civilization.
[106:19] Rosemary from Fort Collins: They know exactly what they're doing.
[106:22] Rosemary from Fort Collins: They know they're small, so they have to tear down greatness.
[106:25] Rosemary from Fort Collins: You know, so that's what I have to say about the left.
[106:29] Rosemary from Fort Collins: They totally know what they're doing.
[106:31] Rosemary from Fort Collins: The second of all, if I recall, and there might be a sign by or a printed out there that But Michael Bennett totally confirmed what Lois Lerner was doing with weaponizing the IRS against the Tea Party.
[106:50] Kim Monson: Okay, we'll have to check that out, Rosemary.
[106:54] Kim Monson: So, Rosemary in Fort Collins, thanks so much.
[106:57] Kim Monson: Steven Peck, thanks so much for being here, particularly on your birthday.
[107:04] Kim Monson: And through the whole COVID thing, we did several podcasts, which people can find that.
[107:09] Steven Peck: It still seems hard to believe that that whole thing happened, but that was a real.
[107:14] Kim Monson: Where it took courage just to walk into the grocery store without a mask.
[107:23] Kim Monson: And our quote for today is Teddy Roosevelt.
[107:34] Kim Monson: So my friends today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[108:04] Music/Outro: My friends, you are not alone.
[108:08] Music/Outro: God bless you and God bless America.
[108:03] Music/Outro: Like a new moon, rising fierce Through the rain and lightning, Wandering out into this great unknown.
[108:14] Music/Outro: And I don't want no one to cry, But tell them if I don't survive.
[108:23] Music/Outro: I was born free.
[108:25] Music/Outro: I was born free.
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