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[01:50] Kim Monson: We are an independent voice on an independent station as we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[02:00] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[02:03] Kim Monson: And it's never compassionate or altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhood, or lives via force.
[02:13] Kim Monson: And force can be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fees, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation.
[02:23] Kim Monson: The agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites plays out at the United Nations, but we're seeing this play out all the way down to local government as well.
[02:33] Kim Monson: I was talking with a business owner yesterday that said two years ago his taxes on his commercial building was$ 10,000.
[02:43] Kim Monson: Last year it went up to about$ 19,000.
[02:48] Kim Monson: And as of this, he just got his new tax bill, and I think he said it was around$ 24,000.
[02:55] Kim Monson: Now that's a big hit for a little business.
[02:58] Kim Monson: That is a wealth transfer from business to government.
[03:01] Kim Monson: we've got to get this thing turned around.
[03:04] Kim Monson: And that's why the work of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is so important.
[03:09] Kim Monson: And we'll talk with Rami Johnson, one of our board members, here in the next segment.
[03:15] Kim Monson: But socialism is not about free stuff.
[03:19] Kim Monson: The free stuff is just the carrot to get people to vote for it.
[03:22] Kim Monson: But ultimately, government cannot give to someone what they've not first taken away from someone else.
[03:29] Kim Monson: That is not the proper role of government.
[03:30] Kim Monson: And so we'll focus on these issues.
[03:33] Kim Monson: We stay out of the personality stuff, but we will mention the people that are pushing these issues.
[03:38] Kim Monson: I did want to say thank you to our goal sponsors.
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[03:47] Kim Monson: Our word of the day is omnipotent, and it could be infinite in power, as is God, or having very great or unlimited authority or power.
[03:58] Kim Monson: So I chose this word because it was in yesterday's quote from George Washington.
[04:05] Kim Monson: He talked about the omnipotence of the divine provider.
[04:10] Kim Monson: And so I thought, let's use that as our word of the day.
[04:12] Kim Monson: And it's spelled O-M-N-I-P-O-T-E-N-T.
[04:18] Kim Monson: And for the month of February, and thank you to Lisa for her suggestion, we're going to focus on George Washington.
[04:23] Kim Monson: We'll pepper in a little bit of Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan as well, Since they also were born in February.
[04:31] Kim Monson: But this is from George Washington, born in 1732, And this is another thing.
[04:39] Kim Monson: They said he was born February 22 in New Time, But February 11th in Old Time, And I'm sure some of you listeners know the difference on that.
[04:48] Kim Monson: I need to look that up, But you can text me at 720-605-0647 if you know what that is: the difference between old time and new time.
[05:02] Kim Monson: And he was the commander of the Continental Army.
[05:04] Kim Monson: And he led the Patriot forces to victory in the American Revolutionary War.
[05:09] Kim Monson: He's commonly known as the father of our nation.
[05:12] Kim Monson: And he knew this all these years ago.
[05:16] Kim Monson: With this 24-hour news cycle, he knew the dangers then, what we have now.
[05:22] Kim Monson: And he said this, when one side only of a story is heard and often repeated, the human mind becomes impressed with it insensibly.
[05:34] Kim Monson: Our bill of the day is House Bill 26-1049.
[05:39] Kim Monson: It's to prohibit the use of personally identifying feature.
[05:43] Kim Monson: And that is to use that without someone's permission, and this was this is.
[05:52] Kim Monson: The sponsors on this are representative scott bottoms and senator mark basely, and we at cut colorado, union of taxpayers, recommend a yes on this particular bill, and our commentary on this is: the bill prohibits unauthorized use of a person's unique biological characteristics.
[06:13] Kim Monson: The bill is a proper role of government by helping protect individuals' property rights.
[06:18] Kim Monson: We agree with the use of the safety clause due to the rapidly increasing occurrence of identity theft and AI deep fake problems.
[06:26] Kim Monson: And so yes, we are a yes on bill of the day, and that is House Bill 1049.
[06:32] Kim Monson: And we're going to get over here to one of our sponsors.
[06:37] Kim Monson: As you know, I work with people that strive for excellence in all that they do.
[06:42] Kim Monson: And Karen Gorday, with Radiant Painting and Lighting, certainly strives for excellence as they help their clients with indoor and outdoor painting and lighting.
[06:58] Kim Monson: And let's talk, first of all, about what you're doing in your spare time when you're not working on helping your clients with radiant painting and lighting.
[07:08] Kim Monson: And that is these Lakewood petitions.
[07:14] Karen Gordey: Well, as you know, the Lakewood City Council voted to send the ordinances, the zoning ordinances, to a special election.
[07:23] Karen Gordey: So April 7th is the special election in Lakewood.
[07:28] Karen Gordey: Ballots we've mailed out on march 16th and super exciting news.
[07:35] Karen Gordey: Um, we have met with rooted in littleton and we've joined forces.
[07:42] Karen Gordey: Rooted in littleton has said we will help you in any way, shape or form, including our volunteers, and so we are bringing an army to this fight and super excited about the next eight, nine weeks.
[07:58] Karen Gordey: We've got a very strong citizens coalition going into this.
[08:05] Kim Monson: Okay, well this is really important.
[08:10] Kim Monson: Will this be a mail out ballot situation where everybody that is registered in Lakewood and will they all receive a ballot?
[08:32] Karen Gordey: And so we urge everybody to check their voter registration, make sure it is active and look for that ballot on March 16th, 17th, 18th.
[08:43] Karen Gordey: And what's really going to be important for us is to get the word out, because who looks for a ballot in the middle of March?
[08:53] Karen Gordey: People are going to think it's, you know, fake.
[09:00] Karen Gordey: And so they can go to the city clerk and get a replacement ballot.
[09:07] Kim Monson: So that means that those big apartment complexes that have been built in Lakewood that all of the residents in those buildings will be getting a mail- inballot as well, yes?
[09:26] Kim Monson: Okay, so you and your team, you're working on this army regarding this special election on the 7th, and it is going to be a monumental, it's really a historical effort as well Karen Gorday.
[09:44] Karen Gordey: And so if you do some Google searching about zoning referendums or referendums in general, there have been a few in Colorado, like up in Greeley, I think Longmont's doing one now.
[09:56] Karen Gordey: And then there's one in Georgia, in the last couple of years, having to do with one of the islands off the coast.
[10:08] Karen Gordey: You know, and I've even looked into what's the possibility of a referendum on House Bill 26- 1001,and there isn't because they put the safety clause on, probably so people can't run a referendum.
[10:25] Kim Monson: Yes, this House Bill 1001, which was the very first piece of legislation that was introduced out of the chute for this legislative session is very onerous because it would change the fabric of our neighborhoods.
[10:43] Kim Monson: It takes away the voice of the people, and it also takes away the process that has been put in place.
[10:54] Kim Monson: And I was giving the position of cut, which is a no on this, a strong no on Channel 7 the other night.
[11:04] Kim Monson: And it was interesting to me, the developer who's been chosen for a specific development that they were talking about, talked about how not having to go through planning and zoning and all those different steps, how it would speed up the process.
[11:19] Kim Monson: He didn't say it, but the next thing is, is it makes it less expensive as well.
[11:24] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking, oh, well, how about if that speeds up that process and that makes that less expensive for that particular development, then how about we do that on our other housing projects, for example, single family neighborhoods, and that would make them less expensive.
[11:41] Kim Monson: Or what's another word for less expensive, Karen?
[11:52] Kim Monson: I was just thinking, I'm thinking out loud on what else we could do on 1001..
[11:56] Kim Monson: But so people want to get more information.
[12:01] Kim Monson: You said you had that up and running.
[12:10] Karen Gordey: And that House Bill 261001, that verbiage is essentially in the Lakewood zoning.
[12:17] Karen Gordey: where schools and houses, et cetera, can be turned into housing.
[12:24] Karen Gordey: And also in the Lakewood zoning, you lose your voice forever.
[12:32] Karen Gordey: And I think I have to guess that this is their backup plan if the citizens are successful in Lakewood.
[12:40] Kim Monson: So Karen Gourdet, we across the complete, everybody in Colorado should help you and your team on this.
[12:53] Kim Monson: This is a line in the sand that we have to take.
[12:56] Kim Monson: And so, again, people can go to your website.
[13:01] Kim Monson: So we will continue to focus on this on a regular basis.
[13:08] Kim Monson: and we have to make sure that we're taking care of our businesses as well.
[13:13] Kim Monson: And so a great way for people to also help support your work, your team, is when they're looking at indoor painting or outdoor painting or lighting to reach you.
[13:23] Kim Monson: And I know that you strive for excellence.
[13:31] Kim Monson: Is there anything new that you want people to know this week about radiant painting and lighting?
[13:35] Karen Gordey: I would say, you know, go out to our website.
[13:41] Karen Gordey: We do strive for excellence in everything we do.
[13:50] Karen Gordey: KarenGorday, this is truly historical what you and your team is doing in Lakewood.
[13:58] Kim Monson: We all need to roll up our sleeves and help you.
[14:10] Kim Monson: Colorado's at the tip of the spear.
[14:15] Kim Monson: And so let's go to work and let's help them.
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[15:02] Kim Monson: And then Roger took his stepfather back to Europe many years later, and they went to all the different battlefields.
[15:09] Kim Monson: And it's a fascinating interview that will be at 3 o'clock this Sundayafternoon on America's Veterans Stories.
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[18:21] Kim Monson: In February, we are talking about George Washington.
[18:24] Kim Monson: And yesterday, Trent Luce, farmer and rancher, mentioned the Whiskey Rebellion.
[18:34] Kim Monson: It's also known as Shays' Rebellion.
[18:37] Kim Monson: And I thought, I need to do a little bit more research on it, because Trent, in his spirit of keeping government in its proper role, seemed like he was not in favor of the Whiskey Rebellion.
[18:51] Kim Monson: And so I thought I just want to know a bit more about it, and I thought I'd let you know as well.
[18:56] Kim Monson: And I understand Washington's, his actions on it.
[19:02] Kim Monson: as you know, I really don't like taxes that much.
[19:05] Kim Monson: There certainly are taxes that we need to pay for a proper role of government.
[19:12] Kim Monson: We are probably so way out of the lane from so much higher than what they were paying back then.
[19:17] Kim Monson: But anyway, this is from MountVernon.
[19:20] Kim Monson: It says, in January 1791, President George Washington's Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton, proposed a seemingly innocuous excise tax about spirits distilled within the United States and for appropriating the same.
[19:35] Kim Monson: What Congress failed to predict was the vehement rejection of this tax by Americans living on the frontier of western Pennsylvania.
[19:44] Kim Monson: By 1794, the Whiskey Rebellion threatened the stability of the nascent United States and forced President Washington to personally lead the United States militia westward to stop the rebels.
[19:54] Kim Monson: By 1791, the United States suffered from significant debt incurred during the Revolutionary War.
[20:01] Kim Monson: Secretary Hamilton, a Federalist supporting increased Federal authority, intended to use the excise tax to lessen this financial burden.
[20:09] Kim Monson: Despite resistance from Anti-Federalists like Thomas Jefferson, Congress passed the legislation.
[20:15] Kim Monson: When news of the tax spread to western Pennsylvania, individuals immediately voiced their displeasure by refusing to pay the tax.
[20:22] Kim Monson: Residents viewed this tax as yet another instance of unfair policies dictated by the Eastern elite that negatively affected American citizens on the frontier.
[20:33] Kim Monson: Western farmers felt the tax was an abuse of federal authority, wrongly targeting a demographic that relied on crops such as corn, rye, and grain to earn a profit.
[20:41] Kim Monson: However, shipping this harvest east was dangerous because of poor storage and dangerous roads.
[20:46] Kim Monson: As a result, farmers frequently distilled their grain into liquor, which was easier to ship and preserve.
[20:53] Kim Monson: While large-scale farmers easily incurred the financial strain of an additional tax, indigent farmers were less able to do so without falling into dire financial straits.
[21:03] Kim Monson: President Washington sought to resolve this dispute peacefully in 1792.
[21:07] Kim Monson: He issued a national proclamation admonishing Westerners for their resistance to the operation of the laws of the United States for raising revenue upon spirits distilled within the same.
[21:17] Kim Monson: However, by 1794, the protests became violent.
[21:20] Kim Monson: In July, nearly 400 whiskey rebels near Pittsburgh set fire to the home of John Neville, the regional tax collection supervisor.
[21:27] Kim Monson: Left with little recourse and at the urgings of Secretary Hamilton, Washington organized a militia force of almost 13,000 men and led them towards western Pennsylvania, warning locals not to abet, aid, or comfort the insurgents aforesaid as they will answer the contrary at their peril.
[21:45] Kim Monson: The calling of the militia had the desired effect of essentially ending the Whiskey Rebellion.
[21:49] Kim Monson: By the time the militia reached Pittsburgh, the rebels had dispersed and could not be found.
[21:53] Kim Monson: The militia apprehended approximately 150 men and tried them for treason.
[21:58] Kim Monson: A paucity of evidence and the inability to obtain witnesses hampered the trials.
[22:02] Kim Monson: Two men, John Mitchell and Philip Weigel, were found guilty of treason, though both were pardoned by President Washington.
[22:10] Kim Monson: By 1802, then-President Thomas Jefferson repealed the excise tax on whiskey.
[22:15] Kim Monson: Under the eye of President Washington, the nascent United States survived the first true challenge to federal authority.
[22:22] Kim Monson: And that is the story of the Whiskey Rebellion.
[22:24] Kim Monson: I'm liking Thomas Jefferson more and more every day.
[22:27] Kim Monson: Ramey Johnson, my fellow Cup board member, is on the line with me.
[22:33] Kim Monson: Are you liking Thomas Jefferson more and more every day?
[22:35] Kim Monson: I am Kim and I appreciate that you're pushing out these different scenarios for the folks thank you thank you I'm learning thank you well and so I guess there's this proper role here in America to stand up against taxes and that is that we the people have to get our voices together what I'm seeing, I think what you're seeing also, Ramey, as we are on both members, board members of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, is we are seeing legislation, such as Karen Gorday mentioned in the first segment, House Bill 1001, that is taking away our voices, not only to review the legislation because they slapped the safety clause on it, but because in the legislation, it says that these new affordable and actually subsidized housing developments, that they would be approved administratively instead of going through the process where the people could weigh in on it.
[23:41] Kim Monson: So what's your thoughts about this 1001, Rami?
[23:45] Ramey Johnson: I think this is the worst piece of legislation that I have ever read since I've been engaged in anything, Kim.
[23:55] Ramey Johnson: It gives nonprofits the ability to do this that have proved that they have done affordable housing.
[24:04] Ramey Johnson: But it also allows school districts, and that's very applicable to Lakewood and maybe other cities as well.
[24:13] Ramey Johnson: Fewer children are going to school here in Jeff County for a couple reasons.
[24:19] Ramey Johnson: Lakewood is aging out a little bit more, but also people are pulling their kids out of public education because they understand during COVID exactly what the kids were being taught.
[24:34] Ramey Johnson: So what's happened here in Jeff County is there are many schools that have been closed, upward of, I think, 20.
[24:43] Ramey Johnson: And we have to remember that land and those schools belong to the people.
[24:48] Ramey Johnson: It is not the school district's purview to be building out that land.
[25:01] Ramey Johnson: They need to have say on what's going to happen there.
[25:15] Ramey Johnson: And I do know that they have land that they would like to divest from, and I have heard that they were waiting for developers that wanted to purchase their land.
[25:31] Ramey Johnson: This legislation, this is also opposed by the Colorado Municipal League and rightfully so.
[25:43] Ramey Johnson: You know, the foundation for responsible growth and balance planning has been at the local level where you are electing your local representatives.
[26:00] Ramey Johnson: And it's strange to me that they would be introducing this again, although they tried last year.
[26:12] Ramey Johnson: But I believe, Kim, it was in 24 when Governor Polis fast-tracked that bill the last week of session that was transit-oriented development, which directly impacts Lakewood, saying that a half a mile on both sides of the light rail should be high-density housing, which in this case, up and down Colfax, you're starting to see more and more of these apartment houses.
[26:41] Ramey Johnson: He is being sued by six different municipalities.
[26:47] Ramey Johnson: Of course, Lakewood didn't get involved in that.
[26:51] Ramey Johnson: One thing that hasn't been noted is that folks in apartment houses generally have a different voting pattern.
[27:01] Ramey Johnson: And this will forever change the voting here in the state of Colorado with this.
[27:08] Ramey Johnson: It is so egregious Basically Well they're basically bypassing the comprehensive plans In 115 cities And it's top down zoning It's horrible It changes the fabric of the neighborhoods And so, first of all, Ramey, you have served as a state legislator.
[27:41] Kim Monson: You've also served as city councilwoman in Lakewood.
[27:45] Kim Monson: So when you say that this is the worst piece of legislation you've ever seen, you've seen a lot of legislation.
[27:52] Kim Monson: And, of course, as I'm being on the board of CUT as well, you've seen a lot of legislation.
[28:03] Kim Monson: And before we finish up on all this, I did want to mention our fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayers board members and people.
[28:11] Kim Monson: We'd really appreciate for you to join us.
[28:14] Kim Monson: And what we bring to the table for you is that you will know about this stuff that's going on down at the statehouse as it affects you as a taxpayer, as they're going to also go after Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, our property rights and our parental rights and our education of our children.
[28:32] Kim Monson: And our fellow board members are Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson-Yu, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard.
[28:45] Kim Monson: This is an amazing group of people that is taking their time, their volunteer time, to go through this legislation.
[28:54] Kim Monson: And the other thing that's really great is we started this Cut Engaged, which Mary Jansen came up with the idea.
[29:00] Kim Monson: and you can go to coloradotaxpayer.
[29:03] Kim Monson: org and we chose three bills last week, five bills this week that you can weigh in on and it will take you less than five minutes.
[29:12] Kim Monson: You can have your voice heard on this House Bill 1001 and I know that many people think, well, they don't look at emails, but if they get an email from a lot of us, then they are going to look at that.
[29:26] Kim Monson: So your homework out there, everybody, is to go to coloradotaxpayer.
[29:30] Kim Monson: org and weigh in for sure on this House Bill 1001.
[29:35] Kim Monson: And, Ramey, this is quite a fight that we have going on here, but this, I think, has to be our line in the sand.
[29:43] Kim Monson: And so this 1001 is important, and then Karen Gorday and all of you that are working on this referendum, this is huge as well.
[29:53] Kim Monson: So, Ramey, you mentioned something about voting patterns.
[29:57] Kim Monson: So we have all the subsidized housing that is being, and we should use the word subsidized, not affordable, because subsidized means that money's being taken from the taxpayer many times for the developer.
[30:13] Kim Monson: The developer gets market rates for the affordable units many times.
[30:17] Kim Monson: It depends on how that deal is structured, and it's hard to find out how they're structured.
[30:22] Kim Monson: But the developer typically is receiving market rates on that.
[30:31] Kim Monson: But you have realized that it's difficult to be able to get into these apartment complexes with any kind of literature regarding an election.
[30:41] Kim Monson: So people receive a mail-in ballot, but for the candidates or the issue for people that the grassroots people to get in and talk to these people, you found that really difficult.
[30:59] Ramey Johnson: Metro West housing would not allow my literature in, although I understand that there was other literature there in their facilities.
[31:10] Ramey Johnson: You know, I also want to mention, Kim, that none of the legislators have run on this issue.
[31:18] Ramey Johnson: They don't tell you ahead of time what they're going to do.
[31:22] Ramey Johnson: And I think that that is the height of dishonesty and the lack of integrity.
[31:29] Ramey Johnson: You know, when you're putting in housing like this, I've been listening to some other folks, And one thing really struck me was that it's the ultimate engineering of our society.
[31:48] Ramey Johnson: It's easier to control one ant pile and quash on it than it is when you've got ants all over the place.
[31:56] Ramey Johnson: and they are trying to keep us close together, saying that we should have walkable or communities where we can either take the light rail, bike, or walk and keep us all close together.
[32:13] Ramey Johnson: That is social engineering, the height of control, Kim.
[32:18] Kim Monson: It really is, and so we'll continue to keep an eye on this.
[32:22] Kim Monson: The representatives, the prime sponsors on this are Representative Andrew Boesenecker, Representative Javier Mabre, Senator Tony Exum, and Senator Julie Gonzalez.
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[33:01] Kim Monson: And you can look at the other ones if you want to weigh in as well.
[33:04] Kim Monson: I would guarantee you that, of course, the first time you use CutEngaged, it will take a little bit of time.
[33:10] Kim Monson: But I think it will take you one minute to do this.
[33:13] Kim Monson: And so I highly recommend that people do that.
[33:15] Kim Monson: Rami Johnson, your final thought on all this.
[33:20] Ramey Johnson: I look at legislation, Kim, I ask myself, who's going to win and who's going to lose?
[33:26] Ramey Johnson: And the people that are going to win are the developers.
[33:31] Ramey Johnson: And the developers are starting to own this state.
[33:52] Kim Monson: And that's why we have to take this line in the sand here, Ramey Johnson.
[33:58] Kim Monson: As always, I thank you for all the great work that you do.
[34:01] Kim Monson: I also want to give you a shout-out.
[34:02] Kim Monson: We had our legislative kickoff last Thursday.
[34:07] Kim Monson: And I need to be, Mary Jansen, Glenn Jansen, I need to shout-out to them as well.
[34:12] Kim Monson: Glenn Jansen was there, Jansen Photography, with his camera.
[34:16] Kim Monson: and we've got great photos, which I need to get out to everybody on that.
[34:21] Kim Monson: But you took over handling all the food, and it was absolutely a beautiful finger food that was set up.
[34:30] Kim Monson: And I thank you, Ramey, and the team, because you organized the whole board, brought the food for all that, which was just really remarkable.
[34:50] Kim Monson: So, Ramey Johnson, keep up the great work and really appreciate it.
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[38:12] Kim Monson: And on the line with me is an entrepreneur and owner of the 88 Drive-In Theater, and that is Susan Kochivar.
[38:25] Kim Monson: There's a lot going on in our world, and you read extensively.
[38:33] Kim Monson: And I guess the first thing I wanted to get your read on is these protests in Minneapolis, these blue cities.
[38:42] Kim Monson: And we are learning that these are very organized.
[38:53] Kim Monson: There's those out there that are really having like watchers of where ICE is.
[39:01] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on all of this?
[39:03] Susan Kochevar: Susan Kochavar, well, I think we're looking at the enemy within, you know, to bring down the country.
[39:10] Susan Kochevar: I know Laura Logan put out some stuff just this morning, even kind of talking about what we're seeing now and comparing it to that, no kings uprising, which I think was kind of a test.
[39:22] Susan Kochevar: But there is a spreadsheet that, um, uh, denotes the biggest lie in democrat politics that there's, uh, it's not a grassroots movement at all.
[39:34] Susan Kochevar: Um, what we're seeing now has the same donors, the same foundations, the same year, dozens of independent groups all pushing the same narratives at the same time.
[39:48] Susan Kochevar: They sell protests as spontaneous outrage and there doesn't seem to be any coordinated budgets, but these all, these groups all have money and they all push in the same direction, same kind of lawsuits, identical messaging, the same sponsors are involved.
[40:13] Susan Kochevar: And, you know, just like any bully, these people pushing these uprisings pretend to be bigger than they are.
[40:25] Susan Kochevar: So what we are seeing is not a massive group of Americans that feel the way these protesters purport to feel in places like Minnesota.
[40:38] Susan Kochevar: Most people want, even black Americans want, you have to show ID and prove that you're a citizen in order to vote.
[40:51] Susan Kochevar: So these things are all orchestrated by these massive groups.
[40:56] Kim Monson: So one of our listeners said the Bolsheviks, when they overthrew the Russian government back in 1917.
[41:04] Kim Monson: It was a pretty small group of people, but very, very loud.
[41:09] Kim Monson: And I think there's a correlation to this.
[41:13] Kim Monson: Now, you mentioned those at the top.
[41:16] Kim Monson: There are those, I've seen people out on the corners here on like last weekend, even in South Denver, that were protesting ice.
[41:28] Kim Monson: But what I've seen is that many of the people on the street, and even tragically, these people that ended up being shot in Minneapolis, I think they are just pawns.
[41:45] Kim Monson: I think within those protests, there are organizers that are whipping people up.
[41:52] Kim Monson: But I think that many of these people are pawns.
[41:57] Kim Monson: And one of the things I think that's been going on for many years, and this is with the mainstream media, is this fomenting of hatred for Donald Trump.
[42:06] Kim Monson: And this hatred is clouding any kind of reason or conversation about what's going on.
[42:15] Kim Monson: The hatred for Donald Trump, I think, is overriding so much.
[42:20] Kim Monson: And so because of that hatred, I think there's a lot of people out there, and they're being used as pawns.
[42:25] Kim Monson: And those at the top don't care if these people are killed.
[42:30] Kim Monson: I just don't think that they care at all.
[42:32] Kim Monson: And I think those people that are pushing this don't care if everyday Americans are killed as well.
[42:40] Kim Monson: I think it's pretty evil what's happening on this, Susan Kochavar.
[42:52] Susan Kochevar: And the people who are pushing this are quite fine if it gets brutal, because it scares all the rest of the Americans.
[43:01] Susan Kochevar: Not everybody is a sheepdog, and that makes it very tough.
[43:09] Susan Kochevar: Now, the people at the top who are fomenting this with what are often called useful idiots play on the politics of envy.
[43:35] Susan Kochevar: But they play on that and use that to push these people forward.
[43:40] Susan Kochevar: One of the things that we're seeing is Cloward and Pippin in action.
[43:46] Susan Kochevar: There were a couple of professors who put together a plan for destabilizing countries, specifically the United States.
[43:57] Susan Kochevar: They diligent delegitimize Authority, which they're trying to do with President Trump.
[44:03] Susan Kochevar: They exhaust the public- you can certainly see that is happening- and then they step in as a solution.
[44:09] Susan Kochevar: That's their playbook and his paparazzi is staggering.
[44:16] Susan Kochevar: And it's hard to get the message out to the everyday person who is trying to raise their children and work and, you know, produce nice things for their life.
[44:30] Susan Kochevar: It's pretty hard to get this out to them so that they understand what's happening.
[44:34] Susan Kochevar: Because once you understand it, I think it's easier to shove it off.
[44:40] Kim Monson: So with that, well, you know what, let's go to break.
[44:44] Kim Monson: She's an entrepreneur, owner of 88 Drive-In Theater.
[44:48] Kim Monson: And she reads extensively, is a great commentator.
[44:51] Kim Monson: and these discussions are so important.
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[48:28] Kim Monson: She is an entrepreneur and owner of 88 Drive-In Theater.
[48:31] Kim Monson: And Susan, during the month of February- we're talking about George Washington.
[48:37] Kim Monson: The founding of our country- talked a bit about the whiskey rebellion, which Alexander Hamilton had recommended a tax, an excise tax, on whiskey spirits, and the farmers back in or in western Pennsylvania didn't like that idea.
[48:56] Kim Monson: But I wanted to see what you thought about Hamilton, taxes, tariffs.
[49:04] Susan Kochevar: Well, you know, I really like that you're going over a lot of the stuff, how the founders wrestled with all this stuff.
[49:10] Susan Kochevar: People like to, you know, it's, oh, this is all new.
[49:14] Susan Kochevar: You know, history rhymes, which means you have to look for the patterns to help figure your way out of situations and where you should go next.
[49:23] Susan Kochevar: And also, I will add, you know, both of us are free market girls.
[49:28] Susan Kochevar: And with everything going on, especially with Trump's tariffs, I've been really examining what free markets mean.
[49:37] Susan Kochevar: And essentially what I've come down to is you can have a free market within your country, but you can't necessarily have free markets across borders.
[49:49] Susan Kochevar: You have to protect your country, because those markets are a way for other countries to help bring you down.
[50:00] Susan Kochevar: Our first Treasury secretary argued that moderate duties tariffs would nurture American manufacturing base and ensure independence from Europe.
[50:11] Susan Kochevar: Tariffs become a tool of both economic development and national sovereignty.
[50:21] Susan Kochevar: And I was really curious as to why the tariffs are not causing the inflation that all of the free market people, including Bastiat and some others, had talked about.
[50:32] Susan Kochevar: And what I have come to is that it's because Secretary Besson understands that, as well as Peter Navarro and Trump and some others, that if you reduce the regulations so that companies can thrive, you bring back your manufacturing, you grow your way out of debt.
[50:52] Susan Kochevar: And as long as you can use the tariffs, bring the manufacturing back and reduce those regulations, your inflation does not rise.
[51:11] Susan Kochevar: And it's fun to go back through the history and read what the founders had to say about all this stuff and see that, once again, it's not new.
[51:23] Kim Monson: And with that, as I was thinking about our conversation, because you read extensively and you think extensively as well.
[51:32] Kim Monson: And I think with this 24-hour news cycle that we can obviously get on television, but so many, particularly of our young people, go to their phones.
[51:43] Kim Monson: I somehow get alerts from different, I don't know how I got signed up for it, but I get these different alerts.
[51:56] Kim Monson: So I'll get an alert that father killed children in whatever.
[52:03] Kim Monson: Those alerts, I think, in a way, it's kind of a propaganda to take us down.
[52:11] Kim Monson: Do you think that's too much to say on that?
[52:14] Kim Monson: And the point I want to make is we have to make a concerted effort to push that aside and like the founders, search for truth and clarity, read, think, because I think these constant alerts take us down and dumb us down.
[52:34] Susan Kochevar: Yeah, they pull your attention in a billion different directions at once, and I think it actually becomes a form of censorship, right?
[52:41] Susan Kochevar: There's a clip where Hillary Clinton is saying that if they can't censor people, censor all the media and stuff like that, they will lose control.
[52:49] Susan Kochevar: So if you can't get the media to uh to censor, shut people down.
[52:55] Susan Kochevar: The other thing you can do is absolutely flood it with a whole bunch of different notices and things like that, and I don't um, and I I wouldn't um for a minute.
[53:07] Susan Kochevar: Think that these people- uh hillary clinton types, uh john brennan, all these other people- are not behind, um.
[53:14] Susan Kochevar: They're absolutely behind a lot of the chaos and bad things that are happening in our country.
[53:21] Susan Kochevar: You know, you see they're funding DAs, which have been releasing heinous criminals who go out and do horrible things.
[53:28] Susan Kochevar: And all that starts the media cycle again, including what's happening to Savannah Guthrie right now, which is terrible.
[53:34] Susan Kochevar: Her mother has been kidnapped, they believe, and they want Bitcoin to return her.
[53:43] Susan Kochevar: These things, also serve as a distraction and can be a form of censorship.
[53:50] Kim Monson: So we have to, when we talk about local government, the most local of all government is ourselves.
[53:57] Kim Monson: So we need to start to govern ourselves.
[54:00] Kim Monson: We need to talk with our children and our grandchildren about governing ourselves, disciplining what's coming at us, because there is so much that's coming at us.
[54:12] Kim Monson: And it's difficult to get through all of it.
[54:14] Kim Monson: That's why I so appreciate your partnership on this, as we really search for truth and clarity.
[54:21] Kim Monson: That is the other thing that I think that the puppeteers over here on the radical activist left, they speak of a relative truth.
[54:32] Kim Monson: For example, that boys can be girls and girls can be boys.
[54:37] Kim Monson: So we have to also talk about foundational truth on a regular basis, Susan.
[54:45] Susan Kochevar: And one of the things that you always say is read great books, listen to good music, stuff like that.
[54:52] Susan Kochevar: Even Charlie Kirk would say he would take Sunday off and just relax and do fun things.
[54:59] Susan Kochevar: And I think that's super important for everybody's mental health.
[55:03] Susan Kochevar: And you'll find that that is one of the things that Trump is promoting when he, when he's going to the Trump Kennedy Center.
[55:11] Susan Kochevar: He's putting a beautiful ballroom on the White House.
[55:16] Susan Kochevar: You'll even see in Melania Trump's movie all of the fine, beautiful things.
[55:20] Susan Kochevar: And people get like to get really, I think, sort of jealous about that stuff.
[55:24] Susan Kochevar: But when you look at Soviet communist kind of art, it's very square, very ugly.
[55:31] Susan Kochevar: and there is something to all that beauty and fine music and at least bringing the art into your home that you like, reading good books, especially founders, and listening to fine music and things.
[55:46] Susan Kochevar: They even say that listening to classical music enhances your brain.
[55:54] Susan Kochevar: So that is one of the things that Trump is working very hard to pull into the country, in addition to using some of these founding principles to rescue us.
[56:04] Kim Monson: Well, and I talk about the different things that we have, but there's beauty and there's ugly, or there's light and there's dark.
[56:15] Kim Monson: And these people that want to take down our country, it is very, very dark.
[56:21] Kim Monson: And so we are at a time of choosing, And we've got this opportunity with this House Bill 1001 and helping the people in Lakewood.
[56:34] Kim Monson: Susan, your final thought on all this.
[56:38] Susan Kochevar: Pay attention to who is behind all of this coordinated effort to bring our country down and work against them.
[56:56] Kim Monson: Spring's around the corner, and that means that the Historic 88 Drive-In Theater will open as well.
[57:02] Kim Monson: That'll probably be, what, late April, first part of May?
[57:05] Susan Kochevar: Looking at the first part of May, we are celebrating our 50th year.
[57:11] Kim Monson: We're going to have a great year here.
[57:19] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is George Washington.
[57:22] Kim Monson: He said, government is at best a petulant servant.
[57:27] Kim Monson: So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
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[60:37] Kim Monson: Yesterday, he's in one of the northern suburbs, and his property taxes two years ago was$ 10,000.
[60:47] Kim Monson: Last year, it went up to$ 19,000, and he just got his new property tax notice, and it's$ 24,000.
[60:54] Kim Monson: This is a wealth transfer from all of the work that this businessman has done to buy his building, to do his business every day.
[61:09] Kim Monson: It's way out of the proper role of government.
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[62:12] Kim Monson: It could be infinite in power as God.
[62:15] Kim Monson: And when we look at all of the dark, evil stuff that's happening in our world today, it can be somewhat daunting.
[62:24] Kim Monson: but we have faith that our God is omnipotent.
[62:31] Kim Monson: And number two, we're having very greater and limited authority or power.
[62:36] Kim Monson: God has power over all this universe.
[62:39] Kim Monson: And I talked to a friend of mine the other day and he said, Kim, remember, good will win on all of this.
[62:52] Kim Monson: And so with prayer and guidance, we do that every day.
[62:57] Kim Monson: And our quote of the day, as you know, and thank you to Lisa, it's a great suggestion to talk about our founding in George Washington because his birthday is this month.
[63:08] Kim Monson: In old time, it's the 11th of February.
[63:14] Kim Monson: And I need to learn what the difference is between those.
[63:21] Kim Monson: He was our first president, commander of the Continental Army, known as the father of our nation.
[63:26] Kim Monson: And he said, when once, and this is regarding this propaganda and all this stuff that we were talking about with Susan Kochevar, you know, the continual images of what's coming out of Minneapolis without the complete context.
[63:40] Kim Monson: And he, George Washington said this, when one side only of a story is heard and often repeated, the human mind becomes impressed with it insensibly.
[63:51] Kim Monson: So all these images that are continued pressed upon us, it's pressed upon us for a reason.
[63:59] Kim Monson: So we've got to become more disciplined.
[64:02] Kim Monson: We've got to look at the context of all of this.
[64:04] Kim Monson: And that's what we do on the show is to search for truth and clarity.
[64:08] Kim Monson: Now, George Washington's birthday is in February.
[64:12] Kim Monson: And as I mentioned, in old time, it's February 11th.
[64:17] Kim Monson: But another person that has a birthday in February is our expert on everything residential real estate, and that's Karen Levine.
[64:30] Karen Levine: I'm like, yes, me and George Washington and a lot of other awesome people, like a brand new great niece that was born at 632 last night.
[64:40] Kim Monson: Oh, I just got chills as you told me that.
[64:47] Kim Monson: And I was going to say: do you know what your birthday would be in old time?
[64:53] Kim Monson: Because apparently there's two different.
[64:57] Kim Monson: I got to check all that out, but I know in new time it's in February, it is.
[65:04] Karen Levine: You know, I have found that there are lots of quality people born in February, so that's a good month, as are probably all the other 11.
[65:20] Kim Monson: Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan and Karen Levine.
[65:31] Kim Monson: So let's talk a bit about residential real estate.
[65:40] Kim Monson: Interest rates are hanging right around where they've been.
[65:44] Kim Monson: And the Fed didn't take any new action.
[65:48] Kim Monson: And I feel like we're probably in the spring selling season since the weather's been so mild.
[65:59] Karen Levine: I'm hearing about competing offers on some homes.
[66:04] Karen Levine: And I think people are out and about because the weather is good.
[66:09] Karen Levine: And I think we'll see more homes coming on the market between now and April, and that gives more choice.
[66:18] Karen Levine: And when you know, we think about what to share on Thursday mornings.
[66:23] Karen Levine: I have a listing that I haven't highlighted and I thought this morning would be a good morning to do that great.
[66:40] Karen Levine: It is three, well, it's four bedrooms, but three bedrooms on the main floor, main floor laundry.
[66:47] Karen Levine: It's a little over 1800 square feet on that main floor.
[66:52] Karen Levine: And then the basement has, the finish has been started.
[66:55] Karen Levine: So when all is said and done, you'd have about 3300 square feet, but it has an oversized three car garage.
[67:07] Karen Levine: So for somebody who has, you know, toys and accessory vehicles, there's room for that.
[67:13] Karen Levine: And it sits at the end of a cul-de-sac, so there's privacy.
[67:17] Karen Levine: It was built by a really good quality, small entrepreneurial builder back in 1994.
[67:27] Karen Levine: And I represented him at the time, sold this house to these homeowners, and it is time for them to make a move, and we're priced at$ 897,250 for a really beautiful home that's nestled up against North Table Mount.
[67:44] Kim Monson: Nice, and I think that speaks so highly of you.
[67:49] Kim Monson: You were representing the seller in that initial transaction, and then the buyer in that transaction, now that they're selling the home, has reached out to you.
[68:00] Kim Monson: I think that speaks volumes about how you really work for a successful transaction, so that it's a win-win for everyone.
[68:14] Karen Levine: I've kept in touch with these folks, these homeowners, for over 30 years.
[68:19] Karen Levine: And when their situation changed and it was time to make a change in their real estate, they said, we want you to represent us.
[68:28] Karen Levine: And that always makes me feel good that I serve them well over the years.
[68:35] Kim Monson: Well, and how can people reach you, Karen Levine, if they have any questions, if they want to get on your list as far as you keep people informed, do special things for them?
[68:55] Kim Monson: And that is Karen Levine for Everything Residential Real Estate.
[69:01] Kim Monson: And, okay, so one other thing I wanted to mention, well, two things I need to mention here.
[69:07] Kim Monson: The first is I run by the bill of the day that, because I was talking about 1001, but the bill of the day is House Bill 1049, Prohibit Use of Personally Identifying Feature.
[69:19] Kim Monson: The prime sponsors on this are Representative Scott Bottoms and Senator Mark Baisley.
[69:24] Kim Monson: CUT, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, is in favor of this.
[69:28] Kim Monson: And if you would like to show your support for that, go to coloradotaxpayer.
[69:38] Kim Monson: And I know that the bill sponsors would appreciate hearing from you on that as well.
[69:43] Kim Monson: And then I actually, he was in yesterday.
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[69:59] Kim Monson: In fact, Roger said State Farm has reduced the cost of auto insurance for both their existing clients and new clients.
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[72:27] Kim Monson: And yesterday I was out in Parker, so I stopped by Little Richie's, New York style pizza and pasta.
[72:33] Kim Monson: They have locations in Parker and Golden and had one of their delicious calzones.
[72:38] Kim Monson: I think it's the best calzone I have ever had.
[72:43] Kim Monson: I can actually get two meals out of it and would highly recommend that if you're in the area of Parker or Golden, treat yourself to Little Richie's, because they're always serving up something worth stopping for.
[72:55] Kim Monson: And pleased to have on the line with me, Joe Lewis.
[72:58] Kim Monson: He is a co-founder of Angels of America's Fallen, and it's great to have you on the show.
[73:10] Kim Monson: You know, Joe, with all of the news out there, I'm so thrilled to have you on because you have taken positive actions.
[73:19] Kim Monson: And you and I met, I think, you and your wife, Shelley, co-founders of Angels of America's Fallen, at the Center for American Values at one of their great events.
[73:29] Kim Monson: And they're just doing, you're doing great work, they're doing great work at the Center for American Values.
[73:37] Joe Lewis: I think that is where we met, and we absolutely get behind them.
[73:40] Joe Lewis: And, in fact, I'm going to be speaking with them or there a little bit later this year.
[73:50] Kim Monson: They have their On Values presentations.
[73:52] Kim Monson: They've put together great educational programs for kids K-12 and educators regarding these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism.
[74:02] Kim Monson: They honor our Medal of Honor recipients with these portraits of valor, which the only other place you could see these would be at the Pentagon.
[74:08] Kim Monson: And, Joe Lewis, they don't let just regular people in the Pentagon to see those portraits, so people need to go down to the Center for American Values.
[74:18] Joe Lewis: It's something that every american, if they've got the ability to make it there, they need to, and and if they've got the ability to join in on some of the virtual series, things that they do, they should do that as well and support them as well, and they can do that by going to americanvaluecenter.
[74:34] Kim Monson: org now joe we have interviewed you for america's veteran stories but tell us about angels of america's fallen your story how Are you, let's begin with you.
[74:46] Kim Monson: How did this journey happen to get to this point?
[74:51] Joe Lewis: Well, actually, it started with my father.
[74:53] Joe Lewis: He was Marine infantry in Vietnam.
[74:55] Joe Lewis: And if he had not made it back, I never would have existed.
[75:00] Joe Lewis: And as a kid, it really made me think about how far the ripples go forward when we lose someone.
[75:04] Joe Lewis: And then I ended up joining the Army National Guard right out of high school and did field artillery to help pay for college and throughout college.
[75:11] Joe Lewis: and then active duty in the Marine Corps for about 11 years.
[75:16] Joe Lewis: But my back was broken during training, and I couldn't continue to fly ejection seat aircraft.
[75:22] Joe Lewis: So I transitioned out to the airlines, and then when 9-11 happened, I went back active duty, but this time with the Air Force.
[75:30] Joe Lewis: And I had previously done carrier operations with the Navy and ended up doing counter-narcotic support with the Coast Guard and supportive law enforcement as well through multiple avenues.
[75:42] Joe Lewis: But I lost friends in every branch of the military.
[75:45] Joe Lewis: And two of my friends in the Marine Corps had babies on the way they never even got to meet.
[75:50] Joe Lewis: And that really made me look into what we do for kids of our fallen.
[75:54] Joe Lewis: And I could find grief counseling at the beginning and scholarships, a lot of scholarship options at the end when they become young adults.
[76:02] Joe Lewis: But in the middle, not so much, you know, maybe a summer camp or a trip to Disney, which is fantastic.
[76:07] Joe Lewis: But there wasn't something to engage the kids in their local community throughout the year and keep them in some positive activities to help them offset the risks that they face after the traumatic loss of their parent.
[76:20] Joe Lewis: And that's how the idea was born.
[76:22] Joe Lewis: Actually, I frankly, I felt it as a calling.
[76:25] Joe Lewis: I really felt it strongly that making sure that these kids had these positive outlets with coaches or instructors to have some additional mentoring was the path that I was supposed to be taking.
[76:38] Joe Lewis: And so Angels was formed in 2013 to engage kids nationwide in these healthy activities.
[76:46] Kim Monson: And this really helps the spouse that is left behind as well.
[76:54] Kim Monson: I think to bring in some positive help with the child.
[77:01] Kim Monson: And so these extracurricular activities, if people don't have children, I don't think they realize how expensive this is, and particularly if someone is a single parent.
[77:17] Joe Lewis: Things have gotten much, much more expensive than when most of your adult listeners would have remembered.
[77:24] Joe Lewis: And what we learned very quickly when we started this was we were generally interacting with a young widow who had gone into survival mode to take care of her children and hadn't even dealt with her own grief.
[77:34] Joe Lewis: And as we began this process of helping engage the kids in these positive activities and paying for their sports or music or baking lessons, or any positive activity that has a coach or an instructor in their local community, we realized that the peer connections that we were making amongst our families was incredibly impactful to the remaining parent, typically that young widow.
[77:59] Joe Lewis: and also case management, getting to know the family and refer them to other services they may not be aware that they might qualify for and making that connection so that when you help the child, you help the parent, and when you help the parent, you help the child.
[78:15] Kim Monson: And I think also that widow probably feels really alone out there.
[78:22] Kim Monson: And so this sense of community, I think, is really important, Joe Lewis.
[78:30] Joe Lewis: There tends to be some attention that's provided right at the time of loss, and then very quickly the dust settles and they are alone, and they're having to make all the decisions and everything by themselves, and all the stress and all the parenting role falls on them directly.
[78:46] Joe Lewis: Also, it's difficult for them to find a place that feels like home after the loss, particularly for the military families.
[78:51] Joe Lewis: They might move back to where they're from, and it doesn't feel quite right.
[78:56] Joe Lewis: You know, the family doesn't understand or there may be just different kinds of issues.
[79:00] Joe Lewis: So they typically move a couple of times.
[79:01] Joe Lewis: So finding that sense of community is really hard for them.
[79:04] Joe Lewis: And that's what we've seen through the peer connections being incredibly impactful for them.
[79:10] Joe Lewis: This is when we connect families with others a little further in their grief journey that can maybe help them with that.
[79:15] Joe Lewis: And just having a sounding board, which our case managers are, they might make a call to check in because we follow up and see how the family's doing all throughout the year.
[79:25] Joe Lewis: and that might turn into a long conversation because they just need to be there and listen.
[79:31] Kim Monson: So how many children, I know on your website you said there's over six, and it's not just military, the children in military, but it's also our first responders that you help as well?
[79:45] Joe Lewis: They are taking risks right here at home and unfortunately suicide is a major factor in the military veteran community as well as in the first responder community, because they experience trauma in their local community and, over a career, have many trigger points right there in their own hometown.
[80:03] Joe Lewis: So, yes, we support both equally.
[80:07] Kim Monson: And you say on your website over 16,000 children have lost their military or first responder parent since 9-11-2001.
[80:17] Kim Monson: And so you've got some different ways that people can help.
[80:23] Joe Lewis: So the first thing would be helping.
[80:25] Joe Lewis: Maybe join us on our social media things and share information, because it all starts with awareness.
[80:31] Joe Lewis: And most people tend not to think about the children after there's been a loss like this.
[80:35] Joe Lewis: And then, of course, we need donations to help us be able to pay for the kids activities.
[80:41] Joe Lewis: That actually is the only limiting factor for us supporting more kids.
[80:46] Joe Lewis: And last year we supported 635 children in activities throughout the year.
[80:51] Joe Lewis: And when we enroll a child, we commit that we are going to keep them enrolled all the way until they turn 19 to get them completely out of high school.
[80:58] Joe Lewis: So right now we have a waiting list that is over 800 children.
[81:03] Joe Lewis: So the donations are particularly important.
[81:06] Joe Lewis: But actually we have an upcoming, a major event that is a program event for our families- and our keynote speaker is one of our supported widows- and children perform in the activities that we've been supporting them in at our Angel Gala, which is coming up in April in Colorado Springs at the Hotel Polaris on actually April 18th.
[81:27] Kim Monson: Okay, that's right around the corner.
[81:29] Kim Monson: And we are going to have your keynote speaker on the show a little bit later this week.
[81:36] Kim Monson: So let's go to break, Joe Lewis, and continue the discussion about this really important organization, Angels of America's Fallen.
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[84:42] Kim Monson: And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show.
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[85:33] Kim Monson: We are talking with Joe Lewis, who is co-founder of Angels of America's Fallen.
[85:39] Kim Monson: and tell us about this event that is coming up in April, which is right around the corner, Joe.
[85:47] Joe Lewis: It was actually started by one of our supported widows, and it is a night where we celebrate the successes and the positives and possibilities for the children, while we honor the loss and sacrifice their parent had made.
[86:04] Joe Lewis: And so it is at the Hotel Polaris in Colorado Springs.
[86:06] Joe Lewis: Last year we had 700 guests, and we're looking for the same this year.
[86:11] Joe Lewis: And we have an amazing keynote speaker, Rachel Flick, whose husband was Sheriff's Deputy Michael Flick, who was lost in service several years ago.
[86:20] Joe Lewis: And we've been supporting her twin children.
[86:23] Joe Lewis: And then we have children that we support, that are the stars of the night as they get up there and they perform.
[86:29] Joe Lewis: We're going to have a cooking demo with Cooking with Cooper.
[86:33] Joe Lewis: And he's a 10-year-old boy that has just fallen in love with cooking lessons.
[86:37] Joe Lewis: And we don't know exactly what that's going to look like, but I can promise you it's going to be entertaining.
[86:42] Joe Lewis: And then a martial arts demo from a firefighter's son who was lost in service as well.
[86:47] Joe Lewis: So it's a night where our supporters can come in and see very directly the impact they have, the positive impact in these children's lives.
[86:55] Joe Lewis: And it's our largest fundraising event of the year as well.
[86:58] Kim Monson: So are you selling tickets yet, or what does that look like, Joe Lewis?
[87:01] Joe Lewis: Yes, yes, we are selling tickets currently, and we are also still looking for sponsors.
[87:07] Joe Lewis: So any business that might want to become a sponsor for that or get a table sponsorship, which is 10 seats, that information can be found on our website at AOAFallen.
[87:18] Joe Lewis: Up at the top, there's an events tab, and then under there, the links for the Angel Gala.
[87:22] Joe Lewis: And it is really a very positive night of celebration of these children's positive impact and their growth.
[87:34] Kim Monson: Now, you mentioned that you have 800 children on a wait list.
[87:39] Kim Monson: And I think that we, as members of the community, we need to be working on doing positive things And helping a child be able to play soccer or take cooking classes or taekwondo, whatever it might be, is, I think, something that could help us selfishly help us feel better about ourselves as well.
[88:05] Kim Monson: To donate, is this a tax-deductible contribution?
[88:12] Joe Lewis: So deductions follow the IRS rules for that.
[88:22] Kim Monson: This is something that is so heartbreaking.
[88:25] Kim Monson: And there had been a stigma around that.
[88:28] Kim Monson: And I see that there is support to families to acknowledge that because of the service, their loved one ended up with suicide.
[88:44] Kim Monson: And so I think it is really important that you are supporting these widows and these families as well, Joe Lewis.
[88:54] Joe Lewis: What we've seen is to the child, it doesn't matter if it was a combat fatality or if it was a shooting in the line of duty kind of a thing.
[89:03] Joe Lewis: And that person was put into that situation or ended up in those conditions where they thought that that might be the best option for themselves because of their service.
[89:13] Joe Lewis: And so it is something that oftentimes these families fall through the cracks, or there's not the community support that rallies behind when it's a suicide.
[89:22] Joe Lewis: But to the child, in fact, their risk of suicide increases significantly if their parent was lost to suicide.
[89:29] Joe Lewis: So it's very important that we say yes to these families and we recognize the service and sacrifice of their loved one, as well as the sacrifice that they continue to have.
[89:38] Joe Lewis: And right now, unfortunately, about a third of the children that we support lost their parent to suicide.
[89:49] Kim Monson: And what else do you want people to know about Angels of America's Fallen, Joe Lewis?
[89:55] Joe Lewis: Well, I think that we honor the sacrifice and the service of the parent that made that ultimate sacrifice for our country and community.
[90:06] Joe Lewis: And as a nation, really, we should stand by and pay it forward to their children because they are at risk youth after this traumatic loss.
[90:13] Joe Lewis: Their risk of anxiety, depression, substance abuse, dropping out of school and even suicide are much higher after that loss.
[90:22] Joe Lewis: And as a nation coming together to stand by them throughout their whole childhood, because when they have the loss, it's not like the dust settles and they've got a new normal.
[90:30] Joe Lewis: They continue to revisit the loss as it impacts them differently, at different stages of maturity, as they age and grow up.
[90:38] Joe Lewis: And then, of course, there are trigger events like birthdays and holidays and so on.
[90:41] Joe Lewis: So the long- termsupport is very, very important to helping them become successful young adults.
[90:50] Kim Monson: And so how much would you recommend if somebody wanted to help?
[90:57] Kim Monson: Take this from 800 on the waiting list to 799?
[91:00] Kim Monson: Is there a dollar amount that would make that happen?
[91:04] Joe Lewis: Yes, well, we we budget three thousand dollars per child per year and of course, any amount helps us.
[91:14] Joe Lewis: That would be the amount that would cover the child for an entire year.
[91:17] Joe Lewis: But of course, even small monthly donations are incredibly impactful.
[91:22] Joe Lewis: That helps us stabilize our budget a little bit and know when it's a good time that we're able to bring another child off the waiting list.
[91:29] Kim Monson: Because bringing a child off the waiting list, it is a financial commitment because you're not just paying for one year.
[91:38] Kim Monson: You're committing and making sure that that will happen until they get to the age of 19.
[91:45] Kim Monson: So it's a pretty big deal to move from the waiting list into Angels of America's Fallen, where they're actually receiving the services on that.
[91:58] Kim Monson: And I know that that's a bit of a tightrope for you all to try to navigate all that, correct?
[92:05] Joe Lewis: It is a very difficult model for a nonprofit to make future year commitments, because the only way we can honor the commitment is through the goodness of other people's hearts.
[92:15] Joe Lewis: And we are at the whim of the economy or changes in tax laws or things like COVID.
[92:20] Joe Lewis: But we have not failed to keep a child engaged once we've made that commitment to them because we take that commitment very, very seriously.
[92:28] Joe Lewis: And actually right now, as of the end of last year, of 2025, the average length of support for the child once they're enrolled is 8.
[92:38] Joe Lewis: So, you know, the youngest child to go on our waiting list was in the womb, actually.
[92:43] Joe Lewis: So it all depends on when they get into, but it can be that it can be an 18 year commitment, but the average is 8..
[92:52] Joe Lewis: And then another another thing to do would be to attend the gala which is in april as well, and all that information is at your website correct, yes, absolutely, and we we would love to have more people come in and see the, the growth and the positive impact that that their support has on these children.
[93:13] Kim Monson: And again, so go to, the website is aoafallen.
[93:17] Kim Monson: org,and then just click on Events, and you've got everything there about the Angel Gala, as well as tickets, sponsorships, and live auction.
[93:30] Kim Monson: And so if you're out there and you can sponsor a table or just get a ticket, go ahead and get that done, because that really helps as well as you're doing your planning.
[93:41] Kim Monson: Joe, I want to say thank you to you and your wife, Shelley, co- founderof Angels of America's Fallen.
[93:50] Kim Monson: I'm so grateful that our paths have met at the Center for American Values.
[93:55] Kim Monson: And Shelley is just so good at following up and making sure that everything is taken care of.
[94:03] Kim Monson: And in fact, we will have your keynote speaker on the show later in the month as well.
[94:11] Joe Lewis: Shelly is an amazing woman, and she was the perfect person to get this thing started.
[94:20] Joe Lewis: And as a military spouse who had helped widows of friends of mine, yes, she does a lot, and she's great for it.
[94:29] Joe Lewis: So I'm very blessed to have her.
[94:31] Kim Monson: And again, that website is AOAFallen.
[94:35] Kim Monson: Click on events and that will bring you up to the buy tickets and sponsorships for the gala.
[94:45] Kim Monson: I'm sure you have that right there.
[94:54] Kim Monson: Thank you for the great work that you're doing.
[94:55] Kim Monson: Thank you for the care of the children of our fallen.
[94:58] Kim Monson: And I really appreciate you and Shelley.
[95:04] Joe Lewis: And it's an honor to do it, absolutely.
[95:05] Joe Lewis: So thank you so much for the opportunity to speak today.
[95:09] Kim Monson: And also wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation, which is, I really support them and the Center for American Values on the show.
[95:19] Kim Monson: And the USMC Memorial Foundation will be having their golf tournament in May, and they have their early bird pricing right now.
[95:27] Kim Monson: And so it's a great way to support the USMC Memorial Foundation and have a great round of golf.
[95:33] Kim Monson: And you can then sign up for that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.
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[98:17] Kim Monson: And it is the month of February, which is the birthday month of George Washington.
[98:21] Kim Monson: And so we have been going through different things in history of our America's founding and George Washington.
[98:28] Kim Monson: Yesterday, Trent Luce mentioned on the show the Whiskey Rebellion and that George Washington had 13, 000 of the militiathat they went west to tap down this Whiskey Rebellion.
[98:44] Kim Monson: And, you know, there's a big question about the proper role of the federal government.
[98:50] Kim Monson: I thought I need to know a bit more about the Whiskey Rebellion.
[98:52] Kim Monson: So this is what I found from Mount Vernon.
[98:58] Kim Monson: It says inJanuary 1791, President George Washington's Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton, proposed a seemingly innocuous excise tax upon spirits distilled within the United States and for appropriating the same.
[99:29] Kim Monson: What Congress failed to predict was the vehement rejection of this tax by Americans living on the frontier of western Pennsylvania.
[99:23] Kim Monson: And by 1794, the Whiskey Rebellion threatened the stability of the nascent United States and forced President Washington to personally lead the United States militia westward to stop the rebels.
[100:00] Kim Monson: news of the tax spread to western Pennsylvania, individuals immediately voiced their displeasure by refusing to pay the tax.
[100:06] Kim Monson: Residents viewed this tax as yet another instance of unfair policies dictated by the eastern elite that negatively affected American citizens on the frontier.
[100:16] Kim Monson: Western farmers felt the tax was an abuse of federal authority, wrongly targeting a demographic that relied on crops such as corn, rye, and grain to earn a profit.
[100:25] Kim Monson: However, shipping this harvest East was dangerous because of poor storage and dangerous roads.
[100:30] Kim Monson: As a result, farmers frequently distilled their grain into liquor, which was easier to ship and preserve.
[100:36] Kim Monson: While large-scale farmers easily incurred the financial strain of an additional tax, indigent farmers were less able to do so without falling into dire financial straits.
[100:47] Kim Monson: President Washington sought to resolve this dispute peacefully.
[100:51] Kim Monson: In 1792, he issued a national proclamation admonishing Westerners for their resistance to the operation of the laws of the United States for raising revenue upon spirits distilled within the same.
[101:03] Kim Monson: However, by 1794, the protests became violent.
[101:06] Kim Monson: In July, nearly 400 whiskey rebels near Pittsburgh set fire to the home of John Neville, the regional tax collector supervisor.
[101:15] Kim Monson: Left with little recourse and at the urgings of Secretary Hamilton, Washington organized a militia force of almost 13,000 men, and led them towards western Pennsylvania, warning locals not to abet, aid, or comfort the insurgents aforesaid, as they will answer the contrary at their peril.
[101:35] Kim Monson: The calling of the militia had the desired effect and essentially ended the Whiskey Rebellion.
[101:40] Kim Monson: By the time the militia reached Pittsburgh, the rebels had dispersed and could not be found.
[101:45] Kim Monson: The militia apprehended approximately 150 men and tried them for treason.
[101:51] Kim Monson: Apostasy of evidence and the inability to obtain witnesses hampered the trials.
[101:57] Kim Monson: Two men, John Mitchell and Philip Weigel, were found guilty of treason, though both were pardoned by President Washington.
[102:06] Kim Monson: By 1802, then-President Thomas Jefferson repealed the excise tax on whiskey.
[102:10] Kim Monson: Under the eye of President Washington.
[102:13] Kim Monson: The nascent United States survived the first true challenge to federal authority, and so that's the story of the Whiskey Rebellion, and it is election season.
[102:24] Kim Monson: Any candidate that reaches out to me, I will get them on the show, and on the line with me is Phil Lukens, and he is running for Weld County Sheriff.
[102:38] Kim Monson: So, Phil, tell us a little bit about you.
[102:44] Phil Lukens: Well, I started my police career in Lafayette, and then I went to Erie Police Department, worked the lion's share of my career there.
[102:54] Phil Lukens: I also worked part-time for CU Boulder Police Department for football games and special events, etc.
[102:59] Phil Lukens: And then I went to the Louisville Police Department as a supervisor and then ultimately went to the Alliance Police Department as the chief of police.
[103:11] Phil Lukens: And then I've been working on consulting and currently a temporary assignment as the director of police in Providence, Rhode Island at the TF Green International Airport, just working on some reformation in their agency and getting some things changed.
[103:27] Kim Monson: Okay, well, so this is a big deal to step forward and run for public office, particularly for Sheriff in Weld County.
[103:38] Kim Monson: What are the top three things that you'd like to accomplish as Sheriff of Weld County?
[103:46] Phil Lukens: Well, I think I want to continue to uphold all freedoms, but strengthen that, strengthen our Second Amendment protections, like constitutional carry.
[103:57] Phil Lukens: But I also want to reform some issues with the Fourth and the Eighth Amendments that I've seen some concerns with, and I'd like to be able to address those pretty rapidly.
[104:12] Phil Lukens: The other thing is I think we need to have smarter, safer policing.
[104:16] Phil Lukens: And I understand that we have technology, and I'm absolutely a big person proponent in utilizing technology, but it needs to be utilized responsibly.
[104:27] Phil Lukens: So I have several concerns about that going forward and what's happening in a lot of police departments.
[104:32] Phil Lukens: And I'm a part of a large circle putting some influence on how that needs to change and shift.
[104:38] Phil Lukens: And then I want to see more voter-driven accountability to the voters.
[104:43] Phil Lukens: I don't think that a handful of elite or select people perhaps should be making a lot of the decisions or be influencing the election to the extent that it perhaps has been influenced in the last several years.
[104:59] Phil Lukens: And I would like to see a sheriff's office that's more transparent and responsive to the people and not the insiders, and make sure that we're defending our liberties.
[105:09] Phil Lukens: Just an example that just came out is, you know, for instance, there's two sheriff's offices in the entire state of Colorado that are now requiring notarized documents for people to get a public records request.
[105:21] Phil Lukens: And one of those is the Weld County Sheriff's Office.
[105:23] Phil Lukens: And I'm thinking that in comparison to, you know, more liberal areas such as, you know, Denver and Boulder, where they're not even requiring that.
[105:32] Phil Lukens: And I'm wondering why we're starting to continue down a road where we're not being as responsive to the people as we should be.
[105:47] Phil Lukens: So there's a freedom of information act- FOIA is what it's called- and people are always entitled to public records.
[105:54] Phil Lukens: They're allowed to get certain information.
[105:57] Phil Lukens: Information like a juvenile's name or something of that nature is not publicly releasable, but the report that they're involved in absolutely is, and anybody in the public is allowed to audit those records and get that information.
[106:10] Phil Lukens: And basically, the Weld County Sheriff's Office has now put an additional hurdle in place for people not to be able to get their information.
[106:21] Kim Monson: Boy, this is one of these things across the board that I am very concerned about transparency.
[106:28] Kim Monson: And I see all kinds of different governmental entities making it more difficult for people to get information.
[106:36] Kim Monson: And it's a whole transparency issue.
[106:40] Kim Monson: And if we don't know what's going on and we can't access that information, then we don't have a representative government.
[106:46] Kim Monson: So that's a really important point.
[106:49] Kim Monson: So you're in a primary, yes, for this particular office of sheriff of Weld County?
[106:58] Kim Monson: So what would you say sets you apart from your competitor?
[107:05] Phil Lukens: Well, I would say most assuredly I'm a balanced constitutional defender.
[107:09] Phil Lukens: I'm not just going to defend the Second Amendment, but we need to deal with the search and seizure issue and we need to deal with, you know, cruel and unusual punishment, right?
[107:20] Phil Lukens: So I say all of the amendments to the Constitution are absolutely important.
[107:24] Phil Lukens: And, you know, we don't want to have the impression that we're spitting in somebody's eye and telling them it's raining by just saying, yeah, I've taken care of the firearms issue while we're clinching down on freedoms in other areas.
[107:37] Phil Lukens: And so I would say that that is tremendously.
[107:41] Phil Lukens: There's a large lawsuit that Weld County is involved in in the jail.
[107:44] Phil Lukens: And, you know, my opponent is partially responsible for that.
[107:50] Phil Lukens: So those are things that, you know, we need to be keeping an eye on.
[107:54] Phil Lukens: And I would say that I'm very much so committed to making sure that we are defending all of our constitutional rights.
[108:01] Phil Lukens: And then I would say innovation over tradition.
[108:03] Phil Lukens: There's a lot of old school methods that happen, But I think we need to modernize the police department with the crime and cut waste.
[108:12] Phil Lukens: And there are ways to do that without sacrificing our freedoms or chilling our rights.
[108:18] Phil Lukens: And then the other thing that I really think separates me is this true independent voice.
[108:23] Phil Lukens: I'm not asking to get elected through the caucus.
[108:27] Phil Lukens: I'm petitioning directly to voters to bypass that and put the power in your hands, the people.
[108:33] Phil Lukens: And I want people to be able to voice who they want on the ballot.
[108:39] Phil Lukens: And so I'm working extra hard to do that.
[108:42] Phil Lukens: But I believe that it's more important than having a handful of party bosses or endorsements from key political figures to be able to say: this is who you should vote for.
[108:53] Phil Lukens: But instead, allow the people to make those decisions and put the power in the people's hands.
[108:59] Phil Lukens: The government is supposed to be representative of what the people want, not a select few that are deciding how the government should operate.
[109:08] Kim Monson: And so I think the big, big question then is regarding ICE in communities.
[109:15] Kim Monson: What's your stance regarding ICE, which is Immigration and Customs Enforcement?
[109:23] Phil Lukens: Well, that is a really valuable question.
[109:33] Phil Lukens: And that is because there are a lot of misinformation out there and there is other information and people are trying to sort through the facts.
[109:39] Phil Lukens: I think that realistically, we all can agree that we want criminals and we want people that are causing problems to our communities to be arrested and to be deported back out.
[109:57] Phil Lukens: That is absolutely something that I think we all can agree on.
[110:02] Phil Lukens: I think when they start getting into nuanced one-off minor cases, I think that that's where there's more issues.
[110:08] Phil Lukens: So if we want to ask what is the stance of the sheriff's officer, what would be my stance?
[110:14] Phil Lukens: And that is that we need to collaborate.
[110:16] Phil Lukens: We do need to work together with the federal partners, and we need to be a part of these investigations.
[110:24] Phil Lukens: If there was something that seemed completely out of line, we would have the ability to pull back.
[110:29] Phil Lukens: We don't have to say I'm going to participate in anything.
[110:32] Phil Lukens: I've been on the board for the Drug Task Force and one of the things, a regional drug task force, and there were a couple of practices that I said, no, my officers are not going to participate in that.
[110:43] Phil Lukens: But that's why you establish clear policies and you work through that.
[110:47] Phil Lukens: So, absolutely, do we need to be picking up these criminals that are wreaking havoc in our communities?
[110:55] Phil Lukens: And would we absolutely assist ICE in those situations?
[110:58] Phil Lukens: But if there was something that didn't seem right or that, you know, needed an additional level of discretion, we would most certainly look at those as a case-by-case basis.
[111:08] Phil Lukens: Because we ultimately are responsible to the voters.
[111:12] Phil Lukens: If I get the sheriff's office involved in a lawsuit for an arrest that's not warranted, et cetera, then I'm subjecting the taxpayers to a different type of penalty and cost.
[111:24] Phil Lukens: So that's my job is to make sure that we are doing things properly, but we are taking care of the community to the best interest of all.
[111:41] Phil Lukens: L-U-K-E-N-S, as in Sam, for F-O-R, and then sheriff, S-H-E-R-I-F-F.
[111:51] Kim Monson: Hey, Phil Lukens, thank you so much.
[111:53] Kim Monson: And I wish you all kinds of good luck.
[111:58] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is from George Washington.
[112:01] Kim Monson: He said, government is at best a petulant servant and at worst a tyrannical master.
[112:06] Kim Monson: So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way.
[112:19] Kim Monson: God bless you and God bless America.
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