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[02:09] Kim Monson: And to kick all this off is Helen Raleigh.
[02:11] Kim Monson: And she is a chartered financial analyst.
[02:14] Kim Monson: She's an American entrepreneur, writer, and speaker, and a senior contributor at The Federalist.
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[02:57] Kim Monson: That's a lot, but it's important that people just understand your vast experience.
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[03:11] Kim Monson: And I wanted to start with this piece that people can find at Substack and they can just put in your name and they will find it.
[03:19] Kim Monson: And it's this article regarding it could happen here.
[03:23] Kim Monson: And so where should we start with that, Helen Raleigh?
[03:27] Helen Raleigh: Well, so it's actually based on the talk I recently gave at the Young Americans for Freedom Foundation.
[03:34] Helen Raleigh: I have a really good relationship with them, and they normally organize conferences for high school students as well as college students.
[03:44] Helen Raleigh: So I recently traveled to California to speak to a group of high school students who were there attending free enterprise leadership conference.
[03:54] Helen Raleigh: So the it in the title really refers to socialism slash communism.
[03:59] Helen Raleigh: I know we often use these two terms interchangeably.
[04:04] Helen Raleigh: They're slightly different, but they both are tyrannic economic and political systems.
[04:11] Helen Raleigh: And as you mentioned in your introduction, I grew up in communist China, so I had a firsthand experience in living under the tyrannic socialism slash communism.
[04:21] Helen Raleigh: And so I used my experience as well as a contrast to some of the things I observed, what's happened in America and want to.
[04:31] Helen Raleigh: My purpose was to educate the high school students about, because socialism could happen here.
[04:39] Helen Raleigh: Actually, I give some example of some elements already happening here that I want everyone, including us, as well as future leaders, to be eternally vigilant about preventing socialism happening in America.
[04:54] Kim Monson: So what are the things that you see, Helen Raleigh, that are happening here that you remind me of your experiences growing up in communist China?
[05:09] Helen Raleigh: First example was, especially for I was growing up, I mentioned on your show before that I grew up with a food ration because China had a price control.
[05:22] Helen Raleigh: The Chinese government imposed a price control on all the supplies of food, as well as nationalized the distribution of how many people were allowed that you have.
[05:33] Helen Raleigh: How much food each person was allowed to have, like, how many pounds of rice you're allowed to have and how many ounces of cooking oil or meat you're allowed to have?
[05:47] Helen Raleigh: And the whole rationale behind the price control was to keep the price low, keep the price affordable.
[05:53] Helen Raleigh: So it sounded like an honorable goal, But what the reality was that there was a widely spread shortage because the price control destroyed incentives.
[06:08] Helen Raleigh: And I told the kids that it really doesn't matter what the price the government says about the price of the bread.
[06:19] Helen Raleigh: But if you can't find anything in a grocery store after you stood in line for four or five hours, it meant nothing.
[06:49] Helen Raleigh: And so in contrast, we all heard that Vice President Kamala Harris was promoting price control as one of her policy ideas to keep food inflation down in this country, even though her administration's policies were the root cause of food price inflation.
[06:53] Helen Raleigh: And so that's one example of something failed, some policy idea failed in China before, and now somehow get a second life here in the United States.
[07:04] Kim Monson: Well, and I'm just going to mention another headline that I saw recently.
[07:08] Kim Monson: Whenever government gets involved in something, it really causes problems.
[07:13] Kim Monson: So Gavin Newsom, California did a forced minimum wage of$ 20.
[07:18] Kim Monson: I guess that went into effect in April.
[07:21] Kim Monson: Ostensibly, this is to help people so that they can be able to live on a quote- unquoteliving wage.
[07:28] Kim Monson: Well, what happened, there will be some people that will be paid$ 20 an hour, but over 6, 000people lost their job.
[07:35] Kim Monson: So zero is a lot less than$ 20 an hour.
[07:42] Kim Monson: The fact that people lost their jobs is the actual effect of, again, a forced minimum wage.
[07:52] Helen Raleigh: That's one thing I really want to convey to the kids.
[07:55] Helen Raleigh: I call them kids because they're high school students.
[07:57] Helen Raleigh: It really is that you should not judge a public policy simply based on its intention.
[08:04] Helen Raleigh: You really have to evaluate it based on consequences.
[08:05] Helen Raleigh: And I urge them that I say all the problems we're facing in life, there is always a free market solution.
[08:13] Helen Raleigh: But when you're saving government for a policy solution, you always end up creating more problems.
[08:20] Helen Raleigh: And minimum wage law is a perfect example how it ends up helping only a small group of people who get to keep$ 20 an hour job.
[08:32] Helen Raleigh: But most people have to be laid off because the restaurant has very thin profit margins.
[08:39] Helen Raleigh: And also the people who are already struggling, American people who are already struggling with the food inflation, can you imagine how much a restaurant has to charge a burger if they have to increase the minimum wage to$ 20?
[08:51] Helen Raleigh: I mean, how many people can afford to pay for$ 25 a burger or to feed a family of four?
[08:58] Helen Raleigh: So those are very short- sightedgovernment solutions, only ends up making the problem worse.
[09:07] Kim Monson: Well, and so ultimately then what happens to people?
[09:11] Kim Monson: They lose their jobs, and there is such dignity in work, being able to trade value for value and being paid to do that.
[09:19] Kim Monson: But when government is coming in with these policies and limiting jobs, what happens to people then?
[09:32] Helen Raleigh: You know, restaurants, forced to close doors or moved, moved to different locations, normally out of state, and then people would have to get on welfare or, uh you know, retrain themselves to find another job.
[09:44] Helen Raleigh: You know, as we imagine, because sometimes it's very difficult for people to transition from one career to another career.
[09:57] Helen Raleigh: Many restaurants, even including large restaurant trains, they're shutting down, moving out of state.
[10:09] Helen Raleigh: Unfortunately, the Democrats in Colorado are trying to follow California needs and to increase minimum wage here, too.
[10:17] Helen Raleigh: Basically, what we are witnessing is the Democrats continue to reimplement, reimpose the same failed ideas everywhere else.
[10:31] Helen Raleigh: They are smart enough to do it right this time.
[10:34] Helen Raleigh: We never see them do it right, but they still have this confidence that they're going to do it right this time.
[10:39] Helen Raleigh: Somehow what failed, the bad ideas that failed in other places will not fail under their watch.
[10:45] Helen Raleigh: But that's just a fantasy, because the bad idea always fails, because it violates the economic, one on one as well as the human nature.
[10:55] Kim Monson: Well, and so ultimately, socialism comes down to force.
[11:01] Kim Monson: And I think a lot of people think that socialism means people can get free stuff.
[11:05] Kim Monson: But again, free stuff, if there's no free stuff to be had, so what?
[11:10] Kim Monson: But you can't give to one person what you haven't taken from another.
[11:15] Kim Monson: So to take from the producers, to give to the non- producers,ultimately the producers will go out of business or quit producing.
[11:25] Kim Monson: And then people will really be in dire straits.
[11:29] Kim Monson: People will be very hungry and won't have freedom to go after their hopes and dreams.
[11:34] Kim Monson: And so ultimately socialism is not about free stuff.
[11:38] Kim Monson: That's the carrot to get people to vote for it.
[11:40] Kim Monson: It ultimately comes down to force because it's a terrible idea.
[11:45] Helen Raleigh: So socialism, you only get a free stuff maybe for the first couple of months or a year.
[11:51] Helen Raleigh: But like Margaret Thatcher said, socialism always runs out of other people's money.
[11:57] Helen Raleigh: And that is why, regardless of locations, language, or people's cultural background, socialism failed in China, Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela, and all these places, people speak different language, have different culture, and yet socialism failed with the same paralysis, such as widespread shortage of everything, especially on food, starvation, lack of health care, despite the promise of free health care.
[12:27] Helen Raleigh: But there's a shortage of doctors, shortage of medicine, and, you know, economists, you know, going bankrupt.
[12:36] Helen Raleigh: Nobody can do it better because it's a bad idea to begin with.
[12:42] Helen Raleigh: And it's more than just about a force, it's also about envy, right?
[12:47] Helen Raleigh: It's about envy that instead of inspire people to say, hey, Kim does better than me, that I should aspire to work hard to get education and find a good job and save more just so I can reach to Kim's level, instead of be aspirational, it's about envy.
[13:10] Helen Raleigh: Now I have to go to the government for help in implementing policies, tax Kim more, or take what Kim has from her, even though she's the rightful owner, and distribute it to other people.
[13:23] Helen Raleigh: So socialism is really coming down to envy and force.
[13:31] Helen Raleigh: You know, it's appearance, but it's never, it doesn't last very long.
[13:38] Kim Monson: And I'm talking with Helen Raleigh, and she is an amazing writer.
[13:42] Kim Monson: You can find her at The Federalist, also at Substack, and then in many of the national publications as well.
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[17:07] Kim Monson: These are very important books, and I would recommend that you have them on your Freedom Library or in your Freedom Library at home.
[17:15] Kim Monson: We're talking about socialism, and it could happen here, which is a speech that she gave to Young Americans Foundation.
[17:27] Kim Monson: And we talked about price control, but what would be a current example of socialism, Helen Raleigh?
[17:39] Helen Raleigh: Some of your readers- uh some of your listeners- probably heard about the social credit system in china.
[17:45] Helen Raleigh: Basically, the government assigned scores, um, about the behavior based on the behaviors of, uh, chinese people, uh, individual behaviors, and the scores are based on what behaviors that the government approved, what behaviors the government disapproved.
[18:01] Helen Raleigh: So you get bad scores and you're going to be punished.
[18:06] Helen Raleigh: You couldn't buy airline or train tickets, and your kids could not go to a good school.
[18:14] Helen Raleigh: But if you are on the government's good list, then you may get a lower mortgage rate and better schools for your kids.
[18:22] Helen Raleigh: So there will be a reward that comes with that.
[18:25] Helen Raleigh: And that, in contrast to something we're having here in America, is the debanking.
[18:31] Helen Raleigh: That's a relatively new phenomenon, but basically it's about how financial institutions in the West basically tell their customers, even though the customer has done nothing illegal, but the bank will suddenly severe banking relationship with them.
[18:52] Helen Raleigh: So one of the most famous example is the former First Lady, Melania Trump, soon to be our First Lady again, that she mentioned in her latest biography that she was a long-term bank, debanked her, severe relationship with her after January 6th, and also refused to open a bank account for her son, Barron Trump.
[19:17] Helen Raleigh: They did nothing wrong, only because of their famous last name.
[19:20] Helen Raleigh: And there are many other examples about crypto entrepreneurs who were also debanked by the financial institutions.
[19:28] Helen Raleigh: And this is basically now we're seeing Americans, Americans, law-abiding Americans being punished for their perceived political views or even religious beliefs.
[19:45] Kim Monson: Well, it is deeply troubling because the next thing that's going to happen is it's not going to get better.
[19:52] Kim Monson: And when you have bullies that are doing this kind of stuff and people think, well, if I keep my head down and I don't say anything, then maybe they won't see me.
[20:03] Kim Monson: Ultimately, this will devolve into a very dangerous situation, I think, Helen Raleigh.
[20:15] Helen Raleigh: I think not enough people know, not enough Americans know about this.
[20:23] Helen Raleigh: We live in an increasingly very digitized society, right?
[20:28] Helen Raleigh: So everything, especially banking, everything's done online.
[20:32] Helen Raleigh: So when you are debanked to buy the bank, you will have a hard time to get paid, which means you're going to have a hard time to find a job because if the employer cannot pay you online, they most likely will not offer you a job.
[20:46] Helen Raleigh: And it's very difficult for you to pay somebody else or pay a business to get the goods and services you need.
[20:53] Helen Raleigh: So basically, when you're being debanked, you're basically being shut down, being cut off from participating in almost every aspect of this modern society, of your life needs.
[21:07] Helen Raleigh: So it's no different than you being thrown into a digital prison.
[21:11] Helen Raleigh: So I think this is why this is something very serious.
[21:14] Helen Raleigh: We need to talk about this more because so far the debanking affected a small group of Americans.
[21:20] Helen Raleigh: But again, there are law-abiding citizens like Melania Trump.
[21:23] Helen Raleigh: They have done nothing wrong other than they've been perceived that have different political views, and they get punished.
[21:32] Helen Raleigh: And the only reason the financial institutions are doing this is because they get a hint-hint from the federal government, from the current administration to say, oh, we don't like these people.
[21:40] Helen Raleigh: We think that they are, you know, terrorists or dangerous or whatever, give them a label based on their political or religious beliefs.
[21:48] Helen Raleigh: Then they've been shut out of the modern society, been thrown into digital prison.
[21:54] Helen Raleigh: So this is something we really need to talk about more.
[21:57] Kim Monson: Well, what about, can't we have a, shouldn't there be a company that's going to pop up that would not do that?
[22:04] Kim Monson: Couldn't we have competition in the marketplace that would prevent this?
[22:14] Helen Raleigh: And also the same institution will be subject to the same regulations, right?
[22:19] Helen Raleigh: So there's a piece I just wrote for the Federalist.
[22:25] Helen Raleigh: So there's a regulation called the Bank Secrecy Act.
[22:28] Helen Raleigh: Basically, financial institutions, even though the act is voluntary, but they are generally, they are so afraid, they are forced to have to provide the government a list of accounts that have suspicious behaviors.
[22:45] Helen Raleigh: And the suspicious behaviors, the definition has become so wide.
[22:49] Helen Raleigh: It used to be dealing with money laundering, but now the FBI created this screen list of even people who are buying a Bible or people who shop at a Cabara's to buy guns and ammos.
[23:03] Helen Raleigh: Those could all be considered as suspicious behaviors.
[23:06] Helen Raleigh: So now more and more Americans, their financial activities have been swallowed and been reported.
[23:13] Helen Raleigh: They are being spied on by the financial institutions on behalf of the federal government.
[23:18] Helen Raleigh: So, yes, there's a free market solution, but it takes time to build that.
[23:24] Helen Raleigh: Really, the number one priority for the income-competent situation is to reform that, working with the Congress to reform the Bank Secrecy Act to make sure that Americans are protected for their free speech and not be penalized financially for their free speech.
[23:46] Kim Monson: This is, do you think, okay, so under, I could see this happening potentially more and more under the O'Biden-Harrisadministration.
[23:55] Kim Monson: Do you think the Trump administration will get this turned around?
[24:02] Helen Raleigh: So this act, this Bank Secrecy Act, it's a very antiquated law was imposed back in 1970s.
[24:08] Helen Raleigh: So I think, you know, President Trump needs to work with Congress to reform this, to reform or repeal this regulation.
[24:18] Helen Raleigh: Basically, you know, either to narrow it down back to its original purpose to really just target criminals and not cut such a wide net against Americans or repeal the law, you know, entirely.
[24:38] Helen Raleigh: our financial institutions know more about us than our own mothers.
[24:47] Helen Raleigh: They can easily, based on where we shop, when did we buy what, create an entire profile of us.
[24:58] Helen Raleigh: I recently just bought a house, so I'm pretty sure I have to move money around, and I'm pretty sure I'm on some list already.
[25:10] Kim Monson: No, and I know, I think that we're on all these different lists, and we shouldn't, we should not be on lists.
[25:15] Kim Monson: The American citizen, and I think that's something in the Constitution.
[25:19] Kim Monson: We're supposed to be able to have privacy of our papers and our effects and all of that.
[25:25] Kim Monson: And the idea that these financial institutions would share this information with the government is, it's unconscionable that it would happen.
[25:34] Kim Monson: And it's unconstitutional as well, right?
[25:39] Helen Raleigh: That's why I think the incoming Trump administration really need to look into it.
[25:46] Helen Raleigh: So after January 6th, even before the Fed reached out to all the financial institutions, Bank of America, which is a nationwide, like have a huge presence, Bank of America voluntarily sent the Fed a list of people with the spendings, spendings, even though there's no criminal act happened, just send the Fed a list of people who were in D.
[26:14] Helen Raleigh: C.,had the spendings, like whether even they bought a cup of coffee from a train station.
[26:18] Helen Raleigh: It's all those data the Bank of America collected, and then send it to Fed.
[26:26] Helen Raleigh: So, basically, if you're a Bank of America customer, you should be really concerned.
[26:30] Helen Raleigh: The bank of america never informed you and the fed was, you know, snooping up your private data.
[26:37] Helen Raleigh: If you just happen to pass by dc during that time and you bought a cup of coffee at the train station or at the airport, now suddenly you're on the list.
[26:49] Helen Raleigh: That's ridiculous and I believe it is unconstitutional.
[26:51] Helen Raleigh: But I'm not a lawyer, so I was a lawyer- decides that.
[26:54] Helen Raleigh: I just think this whole thing is unconscionable.
[26:59] Kim Monson: You mentioned this bank secrecy law, and then also the Patriot Act.
[27:04] Kim Monson: Both of these things were ostensibly to go after criminals, bad guys, terrorists.
[27:11] Kim Monson: But instead, it seems like they're focusing on everyday American people.
[27:16] Kim Monson: And I don't know who they is exactly, but that seems to be what's happening.
[27:24] Helen Raleigh: It's the federal government and law enforcement, especially the FBI.
[27:28] Helen Raleigh: Basically, the Congress, the Judicial Committee published a report.
[27:37] Helen Raleigh: So the Congress, this report, especially named FBI, is one of the notorious abusers.
[27:42] Helen Raleigh: They basically treat the financial institutions' data, financial institutions as an extended law enforcement arm.
[27:49] Helen Raleigh: Because if they directly go to the financial institution asking for information, then based on the law, they need to at least first have a warrant.
[27:58] Helen Raleigh: So what they have been doing under the Biden administration is they give hints.
[28:03] Helen Raleigh: Instead of directly asking for the financial institution to provide information on certain people, they give hints to say, oh, people who recently bought the Bible are kind of suspicious.
[28:20] Helen Raleigh: And then the financial institution, out of fear, they would go through their bank records and provide a list under this act.
[28:28] Helen Raleigh: Of course, Bank of America was the worst offender.
[28:32] Helen Raleigh: They did it even before FBI asked them to do anything.
[28:36] Helen Raleigh: So that's why this whole thing, I hope everybody will go read this article.
[28:48] Helen Raleigh: But I hope everybody will go read it because last year, all the financial institutions in America filed over 40, I think it's about 40 or 40 million reports.
[29:03] Helen Raleigh: That's a lot of Americans being on those lists.
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[31:43] Kim Monson: It is so important that we know our history, that we understand and hear these stories of those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for us and to honor them.
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[32:05] Kim Monson: Talking with Helen Raleigh, who is truly an American entrepreneur, even though she grew up in China.
[32:11] Kim Monson: She is a successful writer and speaker and financial advisor.
[32:17] Kim Monson: And she's just really an innovator.
[32:22] Kim Monson: So let's talk about some innovation, American innovation.
[32:30] Helen Raleigh: So I think we should celebrate two of the greatest innovators, Americans, since yesterday was their, well, December 17th is the anniversary, 121st year anniversary of the Wright Brothers.
[32:48] Helen Raleigh: I didn't know, I mean, I know about the Wright brothers, but I didn't know December 17 was the anniversary.
[32:57] Helen Raleigh: On December 17, 1903, on a cold morning in a small town in North Carolina, the Wright brothers tested their plane.
[33:11] Helen Raleigh: And the plane lasted about 12 seconds and at a height of 100 meters.
[33:22] Helen Raleigh: But that's the 12 seconds that changed the life forever.
[33:26] Helen Raleigh: I just find this is so fascinating to consider how much we have evolved from those 12 seconds from a little over a century ago now to Elon Musk's landing this giant spaceship in steel arms most recently, like chopsticks, steel arms, holds a perfect landing.
[33:48] Helen Raleigh: It just, you know, the innovators, you know, the people who continue to use their talent and hard work to push our progress, human progress forward.
[34:01] Kim Monson: Well, and that human progress is, the goal is human flourishing for each and every individual.
[34:08] Kim Monson: and so that's why the free markets and capitalism is the way that that can be accomplished that when people are free to innovate and to create the sky's the limit and that's the thing about we talked started the show with socialism and communism and progressivism they all believe that there's only a finite pie and that you have to get your share of the pie and it doesn't expand that is it.
[34:37] Kim Monson: And so you see the elites want to try to use public policy to get more of the pie.
[34:44] Kim Monson: And ultimately, that means then in that finite pie, there's less for everybody else.
[34:49] Kim Monson: It gets down to everybody's equal, but they're equal in their misery.
[34:53] Kim Monson: They don't understand that through creativity and innovation, the pie can expand.
[35:00] Kim Monson: More and more people can have a piece of the pie.
[35:03] Kim Monson: They can thrive and they can flourish.
[35:06] Kim Monson: And I don't understand why we can't get that taught to our neighbors and our kids.
[35:15] Kim Monson: I guess it's because that narrative of the elites is pretty prevalent out there right now, Helen Raleigh.
[35:21] Helen Raleigh: Yeah, and because this is one thing, When I was giving a talk, one kid during the Q&A, he did ask me, like, what are some of the comebacks in a debate with socialism, with socialists?
[35:37] Helen Raleigh: One of the advice I gave her, and I will give it to your listeners, is socialists, when you debate with them, they always like to use the ideal of socialism in contrast to the reality of a free market, right?
[35:55] Helen Raleigh: What I mean is the idea of socialism is everybody will have everything.
[36:01] Helen Raleigh: They never explain how everybody will have everything.
[36:04] Helen Raleigh: Of course, their methodology is always to take it from somebody and to give it to somebody else.
[36:11] Helen Raleigh: And in the process, the government, the collective, actually keeps the most of it, right?
[36:18] Helen Raleigh: So when we debate the socialists, we should never fall into the trap to allow them to use that ideal state in contrast to in a free market.
[36:28] Helen Raleigh: In free market, you know, yes, most people will be better off because of the rising tide lift all boats.
[36:35] Helen Raleigh: But we are not all going to end up with having the same amount of the same thing.
[36:41] Helen Raleigh: So that's why I think when we compare, when we debate socialism, point out their fallacy, we have to force them to come down to the reality.
[36:51] Helen Raleigh: We can't allow them to use the ideal state, which has never been achieved, and also which has been proven on the way to get there, it's always resulted in force and death, starvation, and suffering.
[37:08] Helen Raleigh: So it's never been accomplished, and the attempt to accomplish it results in death and suffering.
[37:14] Helen Raleigh: So we have to force them to come back to reality, use the reality of socialism in practice to contrast to the contributions and the enormous achievement that the free market has been able to generate in the last 100 years.
[37:30] Helen Raleigh: The last 100 years, socialism, communism produced over 100 million deaths and deprivation.
[37:37] Helen Raleigh: The last 100 years, you know, the capitalism, the free market has produced the human flourishing.
[37:44] Helen Raleigh: You know, we move from 12 seconds, you know, a still bird flew in the sky for 12 seconds to now we can travel across the continent in hours.
[37:56] Helen Raleigh: And we're Elon Musk, entrepreneur like Elon Musk, planning to take a human to Mars, cross in the cosmos.
[38:08] Helen Raleigh: So the best way to debate the socialists is to force them to combat reality and compare to the real misery, real life misery of socialism in contrast to real achievement in free market.
[38:21] Kim Monson: Well, and I think a lot of young people have been taught this and they think that a cronyism is capitalism.
[38:28] Kim Monson: And cronyism is when big government and big business get in bed with each other and make it difficult on competition, and they pick winners and losers.
[38:39] Kim Monson: And so then I thought this was so interesting because words are so important.
[38:43] Kim Monson: You heard the term crony capitalist.
[38:46] Kim Monson: Well, those words can't be in the same sentence together.
[38:49] Kim Monson: It's cronyism when you have government that is picking winners and losers.
[38:57] Kim Monson: And so a lot of people have demonized corporations because of that relationship.
[38:59] Kim Monson: And, of course, corporations that want to exhibit cronyism, we need to call them out on that.
[39:05] Kim Monson: But corporations that are providing a great service and providing for their customers and their clients and doing a good job and then are rewarded for that with more and more people using those products or services, then they make money or it's called a profit, which is not a bad thing.
[39:25] Kim Monson: And it's so important that kids understand that distinction, Helen Raleigh.
[39:32] Helen Raleigh: Cronyism and capitalism should not be in the same sentence.
[39:36] Helen Raleigh: Because today we do not live in a pure capitalist society.
[39:41] Helen Raleigh: You know, cronyism is the beginning of socialism.
[39:46] Helen Raleigh: That's exactly what happens when business and the government working together to set the barriers, competition barriers, to prevent other people from getting involved and then to make product and process inefficient.
[40:01] Helen Raleigh: And so it makes them less affordable, make it more difficult for consumers.
[40:13] Helen Raleigh: So the closest America has ever come to a free market was back in the 19th century.
[40:21] Helen Raleigh: That's when the Wright Brothers invented a plane.
[40:28] Helen Raleigh: That's when Thomas Edison invented the light bulbs.
[40:41] Helen Raleigh: if they are willing to take a risk, if they have a good idea, they just went for it.
[40:51] Helen Raleigh: We should strive to, at least in spirit, to back to that risk-taking era.
[40:58] Helen Raleigh: You know, reduce regulation, lower barrier of entry, make our market as free as possible.
[41:06] Helen Raleigh: So other people, a young person who's out there who has a great idea, who has confidence, who's willing to roll up the sleeves and put sweat, tears, blood, equity in there, they're going to be successful.
[41:23] Kim Monson: Well, and I think that we're seeing this next generation start to blossom, I think, from an entrepreneurial standpoint.
[41:33] Kim Monson: Because you're around so many young people.
[41:36] Helen Raleigh: Oh yeah, I think there's definitely a culture shift.
[41:44] Helen Raleigh: Like those kids at the free enterprise conference that I attended recently, several of them came to talk to me afterwards, asking for advice because they wanted to start their own business.
[41:57] Helen Raleigh: And I really celebrate, you know, I really love that.
[42:12] Helen Raleigh: And I love young people out there that have great ideas and willing to work on it, willing to put the time, resources, and energy to make something happen.
[42:28] Helen Raleigh: And I also applaud all of us to be as supportive as possible because that's how we as a society keep moving forward.
[42:38] Helen Raleigh: That's how we improve people's living standards.
[42:40] Helen Raleigh: That's how we keep our environment, you know, nice and bring fresh air, clean water.
[42:46] Helen Raleigh: It's all through innovation and creativity, not by imposing ridiculous laws or regulations that are limiting what people can do.
[42:55] Helen Raleigh: We should encourage people to do things that will benefit all of us in the end.
[43:03] Kim Monson: And Helen Raleigh is truly the American story.
[43:06] Kim Monson: The American entrepreneur grew up poor in China.
[43:11] Kim Monson: And when we come back, she tells a story that is so amazing about a chocolate bar, which I think during Christmas is probably a good time to hear it again.
[43:21] Kim Monson: I wanted to mention the Center for American Values.
[43:25] Kim Monson: Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there's four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up in Pueblo.
[43:30] Kim Monson: And the center is a very special place.
[43:32] Kim Monson: It has portraits of valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients.
[43:39] Kim Monson: And then just what Helen is talking about, they have all these great educational programs for kids K through 12 to learn and relearn and think about these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism.
[43:58] Kim Monson: That is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org.
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[46:13] Kim Monson: And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show.
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[46:25] Kim Monson: And thank you to all of you who support us.
[46:28] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[46:34] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[46:38] Kim Monson: And, Helen Raleigh, we started off with this piece that you had written about, It Could Happen Here.
[46:46] Kim Monson: And the it is socialism slash communism.
[46:52] Kim Monson: Ronald Reagan said that we're only one generation away from the extinction of freedom and that we each of us have to fight for it, each generation.
[47:00] Kim Monson: And I find great hope in this generation.
[47:04] Kim Monson: I think there's a reawakening that is happening in America.
[47:08] Kim Monson: I think we're in our third founding.
[47:11] Kim Monson: And there's so many people, so many entrepreneurs, so many people that love the American idea.
[47:18] Kim Monson: But your story as a child growing up in China, poor, hungry, and a chocolate bar changed your life.
[47:29] Kim Monson: And I love this story if you'd share that with us.
[47:34] Helen Raleigh: I want to go back to the food rations just to set a context.
[47:39] Helen Raleigh: So as I mentioned earlier, that the Chinese government has had a very extensive and all-composing food rationing system because there was a food shortage.
[47:50] Helen Raleigh: So the government decides each person based on your age and gender, how many ounces of sugar you are allowed to have in addition to rice and meat and stuff.
[48:08] Helen Raleigh: And even with the ounces the government promised you, the sugar you're going to have, as I mentioned earlier, the grocery store shelves are often empty.
[48:17] Helen Raleigh: So you often stood in line for hours, and then by the time you had your food coupon, you walk into the store, the shelf's empty.
[48:25] Helen Raleigh: So the ounces of sugar that promised to you was not available.
[48:30] Helen Raleigh: Anyway, so as a kid, we all know that a kid loves candy, loves sugar.
[48:36] Helen Raleigh: So we never had enough sugar, never had enough candy.
[48:43] Helen Raleigh: So when I was in college, the economy was better, but chocolate, you know, something as luxury as chocolate, chocolate was considered very luxury, was still not widely available.
[49:03] Helen Raleigh: So American professor, and he held a contest about, you know, English, give an English talk, speech, short speech for students.
[49:17] Helen Raleigh: And the reward was a Hershey chocolate bar, Hershey bar.
[49:26] Helen Raleigh: Now I think back, I always want to cry because it tastes so silky and so sweet.
[49:39] Helen Raleigh: And I wouldn't say it changed my life, but it definitely planted a seed in my heart.
[49:44] Helen Raleigh: Just, you know, I basically decided someday I want to go to a place that I can have as much chocolate bars as I wanted to.
[49:56] Helen Raleigh: You know, because it always bothers me in my young heart.
[50:00] Helen Raleigh: I was not allowed to eat whatever I want or how much I wanted.
[50:08] Helen Raleigh: And that chocolate bar symbolized there's something better out there.
[50:17] Helen Raleigh: And not everybody lived in this repressive way as we did.
[50:23] Helen Raleigh: And I did not want to continue living this oppressive way.
[50:27] Helen Raleigh: And I think that's what that chocolate bar symbolized for.
[50:31] Kim Monson: Well, and the other thing, I didn't know this for many years, but you actually shared that with your colleagues, right?
[50:40] Helen Raleigh: We have to, I have to cut it into small pieces because there's no way I get to have it by myself.
[50:47] Helen Raleigh: I wasn't the only one who, you know, did not have enough sugar.
[50:52] Helen Raleigh: Everybody else did not have enough sugar either.
[50:54] Helen Raleigh: So, yeah, so it is definitely I shared it with several close friends because, I mean, it's a chocolate bar.
[51:09] Helen Raleigh: And in a related story, there was a McDonald's.
[51:17] Helen Raleigh: And during the summer, when I did an internship in Beijing, my friend and I went to the McDonald's.
[51:23] Helen Raleigh: And the only thing we could afford was an apple pie.
[51:35] Helen Raleigh: And it was like we did not have any concept about a fast food restaurant.
[51:40] Helen Raleigh: To us, going to a McDonald's was like a luxury, like a treat.
[51:43] Helen Raleigh: So we sat in there for hours, became the two of us, shared this little apple pie.
[51:49] Helen Raleigh: and this is something really magical about the mcdonald's so that's why uh during the election i mean pre pre to the november election when i saw donald trump you know all dressed up uh put the apron on had this you know worked in the mcdonald's for 30 seconds for 30 minutes i don't think people realized how important that image was even if he was putting on a show but But there's something very Americana about McDonald's, about apple pies, about entrepreneurship, about how you build, you know, going back to build your wealth, you know, and working hard.
[52:32] Helen Raleigh: How we get there from such a young country and with an experiment.
[52:38] Helen Raleigh: And now we are the most powerful, wealthy nation on the planet.
[52:49] Kim Monson: And, Helen, you know, in the Bible, when it talks about the promised land and it'll have milk and honey, I've always thought of America and the milk and honey that we have in abundance here because of creativity and innovation and capitalism and freedom.
[53:10] Kim Monson: And these things are to be celebrated and teach our children to be creative.
[53:16] Kim Monson: The sky is the limit because it is the limit.
[53:19] Kim Monson: We need to protect these principles that have been under assault.
[53:25] Kim Monson: And I'm so encouraged because I think people are realizing this and people are stepping forward.
[53:34] Kim Monson: And I think that the next, you know, this next year offers great promise.
[53:38] Kim Monson: Certainly, we see dangers in the headlines as well.
[53:42] Kim Monson: But we're Americans, and there's something.
[53:44] Kim Monson: And when I say we're Americans, Americans are people that love these ideals, that all men are created equal, with rights from God, of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
[53:55] Kim Monson: It's a beautiful thing to unite us, Helen Raleigh.
[54:00] Helen Raleigh: And I think that's the American ideal is, I always say, I identified as American before I even came to this country, because America's ideal is universal, has universal appeal.
[54:13] Helen Raleigh: That's why you see so many immigrants like me who came here with nothing, literally nothing, that we can become successful and feel fitted right in, you know, in this society.
[54:24] Helen Raleigh: And that's the beauty of America, because Americana really stands for truth, beauty, and love, as well as freedom.
[54:37] Helen Raleigh: It's a freedom to choose that created this abundance of things and high living standards that we all get to live a better life than where we started in life.
[54:49] Helen Raleigh: And that's really something really beautiful and hopeful for America.
[54:53] Helen Raleigh: I think that next year, even though we have a lot to work on, but we also have a lot to hope for.
[55:01] Helen Raleigh: I really believe this is a new dawn is coming for America.
[55:04] Helen Raleigh: And a lot of people are waking up and they're ready to work.
[55:07] Kim Monson: And Helen, I've said this to several people.
[55:11] Kim Monson: I think that we are we're at a time in history.
[55:17] Kim Monson: And I think that we are taking part in the third founding of America.
[55:21] Kim Monson: Of course, there was the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and I think this is such an exciting time, and it's a battle of ideas.
[55:29] Kim Monson: You're out there on a regular basis with your pen and speaking about these ideas on a consistent basis, and I thank you for that.
[55:40] Kim Monson: And people can find you at the Federalist Papers and at Substack, and it would be great if people subscribed to that as well, correct?
[55:48] Helen Raleigh: Yes, I really appreciate the support because Battle of the Ideas needs voices and needs platforms.
[55:57] Helen Raleigh: So the more people can subscribe, the more people can share and help to get the message out, the better.
[56:04] Helen Raleigh: Because you're right, the Battle of the Ideas, it takes more involvement.
[56:10] Helen Raleigh: So I really appreciate that people will go subscribe the Substack letters and go read at the Federalist and my website, howtorollyspeaks.
[56:23] Helen Raleigh: I think for you, too, Kim, you're out there doing the same amazing work, and I hope more people will continue to support your work as well because it's important.
[56:34] Kim Monson: All of these voices in this battle of ideas are important.
[56:39] Kim Monson: And this has been attributed to Stalin.
[56:40] Kim Monson: He said, ideas are more powerful than guns.
[56:45] Kim Monson: We wouldn't let our enemies have guns.
[56:49] Kim Monson: And so that's why these ideas are so important.
[56:52] Kim Monson: And again, where can people find you, Helen Rowley?
[57:05] Helen Raleigh: or my sub-stack newsletter is also called Confucius Never Said, which is the title of my first book.
[57:11] Helen Raleigh: Of course, you can find all my books on Amazon by just typing in my name.
[57:15] Kim Monson: Okay, Helen Raleigh, thank you so much.
[57:17] Kim Monson: Wishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a prosperous 2025.
[57:21] Kim Monson: And Merry Christmas to you and all your listeners.
[57:25] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is Samuel Adams.
[57:28] Kim Monson: He said this, It does not take a majority to prevail it, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom.
[57:36] Kim Monson: So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
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[59:36] Kim Monson: And a nonprofit that I dearly love is the Center for American Values.
[59:40] Kim Monson: They are located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk.
[59:44] Kim Monson: Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there.
[59:50] Kim Monson: But it is really a very special place.
[59:53] Kim Monson: And the portraits of valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients with their quotes is very inspiring.
[60:01] Kim Monson: So I would recommend that this Christmas season that you take a road trip to Pueblo and visit the Center for American Values.
[60:09] Kim Monson: That website is AmericanValuesCenter.
[60:12] Kim Monson: Talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force, and we have pre-recorded these shows for Christmas week.
[60:21] Kim Monson: And the Boston Tea Party was December 16th, 1773.
[60:26] Kim Monson: And Colonel Rutledge said, we should do a show regarding the tea parties.
[60:31] Kim Monson: But you said the precursor to all of this really was the French-Indian War.
[60:37] Kim Monson: And we went to break just as you were saying that Washington, George Washington, had briefed General Braddock, the British general, that the battle with the French near Pittsburgh is not like what they're used to in Europe.
[60:52] Kim Monson: So what happened then, Colonel Rutledge?
[60:58] Bill Rutledge: Well, the general didn't pay attention to George.
[61:00] Bill Rutledge: And so he continued to march his soldiers sort of en masse and did not send out scouts to the front or to his flanks.
[61:16] Bill Rutledge: And he believed in leading from the front, like they would do in a combat on the coast of Europe.
[61:30] Bill Rutledge: And then shortly thereafter, since the French and the Indians were all around them, their casualties were tremendous.
[61:41] Bill Rutledge: They had about 2,000 redcoats plus their officer corps.
[61:46] Bill Rutledge: And soon it was obvious that they were going to be decimated, and they had to withdraw.
[61:52] Bill Rutledge: And Washington, of course, was with the general as his aide.
[62:01] Bill Rutledge: He was like 6'2or 6'3, abig man, over 200 pounds, on a big horse.
[62:10] Bill Rutledge: And the Indians and the French were all trying to shoot George and shoot him off the horse, or shoot the horse and have him fall.
[62:26] Bill Rutledge: So he rallied the survivors and went back to Virginia and explained the situation to the governor there.
[62:37] Bill Rutledge: And the governor recognized that this was not going to be successful there at that level.
[62:46] Bill Rutledge: So he just sort of withdrew the men and did not pursue it any further in that area.
[62:53] Bill Rutledge: But the battle on with the French continued, but it moved north.
[62:58] Bill Rutledge: It moved up the Hudson Valley and on up into Canada.
[63:02] Bill Rutledge: So that most of the rest of that French and Indian War, which was called the Seven Year War in Europe, was conducted up in Canada and along the border in Canada.
[63:15] Bill Rutledge: So, consequently, Georgia's involvement in the American activity was reduced because most of the fighting was with British soldiers who had come over.
[63:30] Bill Rutledge: It wasn't with very many of the colonial people.
[63:34] Bill Rutledge: So when the war ended after this seven- year period,so it's early 1860s, I mean 1760s, then the British Parliament recognized that they had incurred a tremendous debt enduring this.
[63:54] Bill Rutledge: So they elected to have the people who were in America, the colonials, be taxed in some form or another to help pay for it.
[64:09] Bill Rutledge: Their perspective was that they had sent troops over there to protect British citizens who lived in America.
[64:20] Bill Rutledge: The colonial people didn't look at it that way.
[64:25] Bill Rutledge: They looked at it as though it was continued english colonial expansion because england had gained all of canada and the maritime provinces um, all the way up to labrador and um.
[64:40] Bill Rutledge: They viewed this as a british problem and was not their problem.
[64:47] Bill Rutledge: So the British started, the first thing they did to somewhat appease the French, but maybe just to avoid further conflict in that area, they put out an edict to the colonials that there would be.
[65:05] Bill Rutledge: So anyhow, the first direction to the colonials were that there was to be no more colonization west of the Appalachian Mountains.
[65:14] Bill Rutledge: Well, this did not go well with the Americans because they were in the process of moving into that area.
[65:25] Bill Rutledge: They'd been doing it gradually for a number of years, and even people like Washington and some of the others had staked out thousands of acres of land just west of the Appalachians.
[65:42] Bill Rutledge: So it was a big investment for a lot of people, and there was great interest there.
[65:47] Bill Rutledge: But it was just a start of what was going to happen.
[65:53] Bill Rutledge: Then the— and this was in 1763, immediately after the war.
[66:04] Bill Rutledge: And then later, the next year, in 1764, they decided to tax sugar.
[66:11] Bill Rutledge: Well, it would be sugar and molasses and any byproducts that might be manufactured in America.
[66:23] Bill Rutledge: So this was the first of a series of many things.
[66:27] Bill Rutledge: then they had another act also in 1764, Currency Act, so that we couldn't be printing our own money to use for...
[66:41] Bill Rutledge: Then they came up with the Stamp Act, which we all heard of in high school.
[66:48] Bill Rutledge: But that was what required that a stamp be put on all sorts of retail products.
[66:56] Bill Rutledge: And this was, of course, controlled by the British colonial government.
[67:08] Bill Rutledge: By this time, in 1765, the infamous Stamp Act was passed by Parliament.
[67:17] Bill Rutledge: This required English stamps, which were basically a taxation, to be put on all sorts of retail merchandise and even bulk items that would be shipped in from England.
[67:30] Bill Rutledge: And it was It was a burden upon the people, but also it was a visible nuisance that they didn't approve of.
[67:41] Bill Rutledge: So they started right away, the Sons of Liberty and the Daughters of Liberty started boycotting a lot of the imports from England.
[67:55] Bill Rutledge: And then they started talking more openly about they didn't want taxation without representation.
[68:04] Bill Rutledge: And if the parliament at that time would have recognized their feelings and just had some token representations from America to go to England and participate in some of these decisions, it might have alleviated the problem.
[68:27] Bill Rutledge: So there was nobody from America in London who spoke on their behalf.
[68:35] Kim Monson: Okay, Colonel Rutledge, let's go to break on this.
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[69:17] Kim Monson: And I wanted to get your reflections regarding Christmas.
[69:20] Roger Mangan: Well, Merry Christmas to you, Kim, and your family and all those you love.
[69:24] Roger Mangan: You know, when you asked me to comment on Christmas, my thoughts, I had a flurry of memories, physical memories, where my mother and I sat in front of a Christmas tree and decorated it days before Christmas and just connected with each other along with my brothers.
[69:44] Roger Mangan: Putting the final touches on the Christmas tree back in the 40s and 50s was angel hair.
[69:49] Roger Mangan: Any of you old enough to remember angel hair that was wool that itched like heck, so you needed to be careful?
[69:58] Roger Mangan: So I have some very fond physical memories of those times.
[70:01] Roger Mangan: But also I look at Christmas as a time to thank those who helped me get where I am today, who led the way spiritually and also by example.
[70:15] Roger Mangan: There was a friend of mine who was a wrestling coach when I was in college and he he continuously comes to my thoughts because of the undiminished support he gave to me during his connection with me and over a four-year period.
[70:38] Roger Mangan: When you left his house, it would say: return with honor and it's like: yeah, He was the kind of guy that forever has influenced my life.
[70:49] Roger Mangan: And I think there are a lot of us at Christmas that look backward with sadness, some with joy, but it's a time to look forward for a lot of us to renew our hope in ourselves, the world, and the places we live and we want to be connected with.
[71:09] Roger Mangan: So I think Christmas is a very different holiday for everybody, even though we think it's the time for the birth of Christ and the renewal of Western values and culture.
[71:25] Roger Mangan: It is way more than that because it's not a single theme.
[71:33] Kim Monson: and reflecting on this Christmas, this Christmas I've given myself permission to not have to have everything done within a certain time frame.
[71:45] Kim Monson: And it has been somewhat liberating for me.
[71:49] Kim Monson: And I used to think December 1st, you know, first day of Advent, whatever, that I needed to have everything ready.
[71:55] Kim Monson: I realized that Christmas is the 24th.
[71:59] Kim Monson: So I've decided I'm going to prepare.
[72:01] Kim Monson: I mean, I've kind of given myself a break this season.
[72:05] Roger Mangan: I think it's, you know, time to catch your breath and probably say: you know, let me think about what I want to be in 2025 and how I'm going to get there and who helped me get where I am and be thankful and grateful and look back at them, pick up the phone and say: hey, just wanted to touch base with you and let you know how much you've meant to me in the past year or many years, and thank you for your friendship.
[72:33] Roger Mangan: You're, you're on my mind and let's keep connected.
[72:39] Kim Monson: And um, speaking of people that have helped you over the years, years and years ago, I was in a tough spot, and we get in tough spots, it happens.
[72:49] Kim Monson: But I was in a really tough spot and I had some friends that stepped forward and they said: just give her a chance.
[72:56] Kim Monson: And that was when I first moved to Denver and they gave me a chance.
[73:01] Kim Monson: I got a job as a trainee at a stock brokerage firm and actually it worked out really well.
[73:08] Kim Monson: So if you can help people out, give them a chance.
[73:12] Kim Monson: I think that that's a great thing to do in 2025.
[73:15] Roger Mangan: Don't you wonder if those people are still around that open that door for you and have you ever had a chance to go back and say hello?
[73:25] Kim Monson: Uh, that was many years ago, but I said I will always work to try to pay that forward, and so I I try to.
[73:33] Roger Mangan: Yeah, let me share with you something that I learned probably 24 years ago when our wonderful daughter michelle passed away.
[73:42] Roger Mangan: I was at a church service and the minister brought forward something that has stuck in my mind forever, and it has to do a little bit with christmas, and it goes like this: life is short and you have oh so little time to share the path of life with those you love.
[74:02] Roger Mangan: So be quick to love, make haste to be kind.
[74:05] Kim Monson: Roger mangan, that is that is really touches my heart.
[74:16] Kim Monson: I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas.
[74:19] Roger Mangan: Kim, let me close by saying Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everybody.
[74:23] Roger Mangan: May all of you have a great life and a future that's bright with optimism.
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[77:31] Kim Monson: We are pre-recording some very special guests.
[77:34] Kim Monson: And I'm pleased to have on the line with me Colonel Bill Rutledge.
[77:37] Kim Monson: He's retired United States Air Force.
[77:40] Kim Monson: Colonel Rutledge, welcome to the show.
[77:43] Kim Monson: And we had talked about doing a show regarding the Tea Party, because the Boston Tea Party was in December.
[77:52] Kim Monson: And so I thought, let's have some history.
[77:56] Kim Monson: So where should we start regarding, and it wasn't just the Boston Tea Party, there were other tea parties as well.
[78:05] Bill Rutledge: Well, first of all, most American students have heard of the Boston Tea Party in one level of their American history.
[78:25] Bill Rutledge: It was sort of a culmination of a lot of agitation and irritation on the part of the American colonials that had been developing over about a 20-year period.
[78:45] Bill Rutledge: And what was the origin was the French and Indian War.
[78:49] Bill Rutledge: The reason being that the French and the English had been at one another's throat militarily for centuries.
[79:06] Bill Rutledge: And the French had control of what is now Canada and the maritime provinces.
[79:12] Bill Rutledge: And then, of course, we were right up against them.
[79:18] Bill Rutledge: and then to the south of us was Florida, which was Spanish, and to the west, beyond the Mississippi, was really undesignated, but it was principally Spanish.
[79:31] Bill Rutledge: So in 1754, the French decided they wanted to expand their control, and they wanted to have the control of that area, but down the Ohio River to the Mississippi, and then they would like to control the whole Mississippi Valley all the way down to New Orleans.
[79:57] Bill Rutledge: So they moved a group of soldiers down to the area of Pittsburgh, right where the Ohio forms, where the Allegheny and Mahongahele River converge.
[80:18] Bill Rutledge: And the governor of Virginia learned of this, and he was very concerned because the English had assumed that they had control of everything, even west of the Alleghenies all the way out to the Mississippi River.
[80:36] Bill Rutledge: And they felt that the French were infringing upon their territory.
[80:42] Bill Rutledge: So the governor, he needed to send a message to the French.
[81:00] Bill Rutledge: So he had actually been west part of Virginia, but he's also been beyond the Allegheny Mountains, so he was familiar with the territory almost all the way out towards where Pittsburgh is located.
[81:17] Bill Rutledge: So he became the delegate to carry the message out.
[81:22] Bill Rutledge: So on his first trip out, he got a few Indians just for interpreters, and he went out in the fall, and it was cold, and it took him several days to get there.
[81:35] Bill Rutledge: and he took the message and gave it to the French commander.
[81:41] Bill Rutledge: And it basically was telling them that they should abandon their fort and go back to Canada.
[81:45] Bill Rutledge: Well, the French commander elected to write a lengthy written statement back to the governor of Virginia, which he did.
[81:56] Bill Rutledge: So George took this message back, and when it got back there and it was read by the governor, it was very explicit that they weren't going anywhere that is the French.
[82:08] Bill Rutledge: So he formed a small, almost like a company of soldiers in the militia with a few interpreters and a few civilians.
[82:22] Bill Rutledge: And they were going back out there to see if they could actually drive the French out of that area.
[82:31] Bill Rutledge: Well, when they did this second trip, they couldn't do it.
[82:35] Bill Rutledge: The French were too numerous, and they were defensive in a good position.
[82:42] Bill Rutledge: And they were allied with several of the Indian tribes in the area.
[82:50] Bill Rutledge: And then he turned and went back to Virginia and talked to the governor and said, they're serious, they're not going anywhere, and we lost a few men.
[83:02] Bill Rutledge: Well, the British took great exception to this, and they were already fighting the French on the European coast area.
[83:14] Bill Rutledge: And so consequently, they decided to send approximately 2,000 redcoats.
[83:20] Bill Rutledge: under General Braddock, to come to Virginia and then press on and make the French vacate their area near Pittsburgh and go back to Canada.
[83:33] Bill Rutledge: Well, when they got there, they looked for someone to be their guide, and the obvious person was George Washington, since he had been there.
[83:43] Bill Rutledge: And so he became the aide-de-camp for General Braddock.
[83:47] Bill Rutledge: And he tried to brief the general not to expect combat with the French like they had encountered on the plains in Europe, where you'd have lines of soldiers facing lines of soldiers in open and clear spaces.
[84:06] Bill Rutledge: there were a lot of trees and many places to hide.
[84:11] Bill Rutledge: And he, George, told the general that you have to have scouts out.
[84:17] Bill Rutledge: You have to expect that you could have people on your flanks.
[84:22] Bill Rutledge: And you must send out your people to go out and represent the flanks.
[84:32] Kim Monson: So, Colonel Rutledge, let's stop right there.
[84:38] Kim Monson: We're going to come back and continue this discussion about the French and Indian War.
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[87:27] Kim Monson: excuse me, the USMC Memorial Foundation.
[87:29] Kim Monson: And the memorial is located here in Golden, Colorado at 6th and Colfax.
[87:35] Kim Monson: And Paula Sarlls, who is a Gold Star wife, a Marine veteran, and the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation, she and her team are really working diligently to give a facelift to the Marine Memorial.
[87:50] Kim Monson: So get more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.
[87:53] Kim Monson: And Colonel Bill Rutledge is 96 years young, and he is a retired United States Air Force.
[88:01] Kim Monson: Colonel Rutledge, when we went to break, you said the colonists were starting to get frustrated about being taxed without representation.
[88:10] Kim Monson: And perhaps the British could have headed off the complete Revolutionary War if they would have recognized that and given the colonists some representation at Parliament.
[88:20] Bill Rutledge: That's absolutely correct, but they did not extend that invitation um, so they continued in 1765 after they'd already enacted the stamp act.
[88:36] Bill Rutledge: Shortly thereafter they passed what was called the Quartering Act.
[88:42] Bill Rutledge: And the Quartering Act required the colonial governments to provide accommodations for the British Redcoat soldiers who were assigned to America.
[88:58] Bill Rutledge: And in some instances, they even required people to take British soldiers into their own homes, provide their sleeping accommodations, but also provide for their meals.
[89:13] Bill Rutledge: This was not only was it an imposition, but economically it was a strain upon a lot of families.
[89:21] Bill Rutledge: So the British weren't making things easier for the Americans, and it was getting to be pretty bad.
[89:29] Bill Rutledge: Shortly thereafter, they realized that they were losing a lot of sales in America.
[89:38] Bill Rutledge: So they repealed the Stamp Act, but they still were doing taxes on all sorts of things.
[89:53] Bill Rutledge: So this continued, and then they followed up with what they call the Townsend Acts in 1768, which is sort of a conglomeration of various ways of taxing the Americans.
[90:11] Bill Rutledge: What really lit the fire for ultimate Tea Parties was in May of 1773, they passed the Tea Act.
[90:24] Bill Rutledge: Now, one of the reasons they had done this was that the British source of tea, of course, came from Ceylon in India, and they had an exclusive on all tea coming to America.
[90:43] Bill Rutledge: The tea would go to England, where it would be boxed and taxed and prepared and sent over on British ships.
[90:54] Bill Rutledge: And it must be exclusively from England for Americans to buy it, which made tea much more expensive.
[91:04] Bill Rutledge: and tea was considered a part of the life of the people in America.
[91:12] Bill Rutledge: In what's ironic, although they didn't talk about it, at that same time, cocoa was becoming equally important in London.
[91:24] Bill Rutledge: So we didn't know much about that, and we were never told that in school.
[91:28] Bill Rutledge: I only found that out by reading more and more about the English.
[91:44] Bill Rutledge: And what happened was, in the fall of 1773, the British sent seven ships to America, cargo ships loaded with tea.
[92:03] Bill Rutledge: And they sent these ships to a number of ports.
[92:07] Bill Rutledge: But for Boston, since the population was greater in that area, they sent three ships that had tea on them.
[92:19] Bill Rutledge: And since the tea was already being taxed and people were getting a little tired of it, This is when the Sons of Liberty first came out overtly, so they made a presence.
[92:36] Bill Rutledge: But, of course, they decorated themselves up as though they were Mohawk Indians.
[92:42] Bill Rutledge: Well, it didn't take a lot to figure out that that was just a disguise.
[92:47] Bill Rutledge: It was the Sons of Liberty all dressed out to be Indians.
[92:51] Bill Rutledge: So they went to the ships in the harbor, and they threw all the tea out into the harbor.
[92:58] Bill Rutledge: So this is the story that we got in history, in elementary school and also in high school, and somewhat in college.
[93:08] Bill Rutledge: But it didn't explain the fact that the british had tons of tons of tea and just sending it to boston wasn't going to cut it.
[93:19] Bill Rutledge: They sent it also to new york, to philadelphia, to Charleston, to many of the population centers.
[93:30] Bill Rutledge: And the reason they would send is that the people who were in the business of selling tea were Americans.
[93:40] Bill Rutledge: So they would put in orders to be placed in England, and then the tea would be consigned to them by name.
[93:53] Bill Rutledge: So it would come there, and then in each of these ports, the British had a customs officer who was supposed to collect a tax before the tea could be released to the American vendors.
[94:07] Bill Rutledge: Well, because of the pressure that is being put on by the colonial people against the Tea Act and against paying tax for their tea, some of the vendors wouldn't even take it.
[94:24] Bill Rutledge: And there were some of the ships that turned around and went back to England.
[94:28] Bill Rutledge: Meanwhile, of course, the Boston situation set a pattern so that people throughout the colonies learned of what had happened in Boston, and some of them elected to emulate what they had done there.
[94:45] Bill Rutledge: so there were a few occasions where one of the convoys went into Philadelphia and they had quite a few huge boxes but the people in Philadelphia had learned about it and had warned the captain of the ship and said look, don't unload or it'll just go in the water so the ships turned around and went back to England with the teeth And then later, the ship, one of the ships, which is called the London, when it went back to London, then it had an order to Charleston.
[95:27] Bill Rutledge: So in that fall, it went, you know, in this early spring of 74, it went to Charleston.
[95:35] Bill Rutledge: When it got to Charleston, there were two big commercial vendors there who were going to pay their taxes and get their tea.
[95:46] Bill Rutledge: but there were a lot of local people who went to the meeting and said, we're not going to buy your tea anyhow.
[95:53] Bill Rutledge: So these two people who were going to have to pay the taxes and get the tea, they just decided, well, we better not bring that ashore.
[96:05] Bill Rutledge: So what happened one evening, they unloaded the ship to London, and they took all the boxes of tea, and there were quite a few.
[96:16] Bill Rutledge: and they put them in the custom house, which is at the end of the street right down by the dock in Charleston.
[96:31] Bill Rutledge: And in 1952 and 53, I worked in the same block where the custom house is.
[96:41] Bill Rutledge: And I didn't even know about the story of the tea.
[96:44] Bill Rutledge: It's at the end of Broad Street and intersection of Broad and Church Street.
[96:57] Bill Rutledge: And today it's used by the Chamber of Commerce.
[97:01] Bill Rutledge: And it's almost like a national headquarters for them.
[97:05] Bill Rutledge: But I didn't know anything like that when I would walk by it to go get my car and do my job.
[97:13] Bill Rutledge: this is a digression, but it shows a current association with the past.
[97:37] Bill Rutledge: It stayed there until the American Revolution started.
[97:41] Bill Rutledge: And in 1776, now after we've had a Declaration of Independence, the tea was sold at auction, and the money was used to buy ammunition and muskets for the locals to defend Charleston against the British.
[98:12] Bill Rutledge: But there were other examples up and down the coast.
[98:17] Bill Rutledge: It was really a situation where they decided we're going to throw the tea in the ocean, or you're going to take it back to England or we're going to unload the tea and we're going to burn the boxes.
[98:30] Bill Rutledge: But one place really did it, and this was in Maryland.
[98:35] Bill Rutledge: And so they came into port, there at Annapolis, and the locals were trying to figure out what to do with the tea.
[98:46] Bill Rutledge: So what they did, they just burned the whole damn ship.
[98:52] Bill Rutledge: With the tea, the people got off okay, but they burned the ship and the tea, everything.
[99:00] Kim Monson: That probably made the British pretty mad, huh?
[99:05] Bill Rutledge: I'm sure that sort of ruffled their feathers, but we were getting awfully close to the first Continental Congress meeting in Philadelphia where the first time 13 colonies got together, and it didn't take too much longer for that to happen.
[99:27] Bill Rutledge: And so consequently, it wasn't just the Boston Tea Party.
[99:33] Bill Rutledge: It was the focal point, and it set some of the precedents.
[99:37] Bill Rutledge: But we had tea parties all up and down the coast in various configurations, and the destiny of the tea was up to the locals.
[100:00] Bill Rutledge: Most of it was being abused because they were being abused by the British.
[100:04] Bill Rutledge: And it was things like this that, again, were brought on because the British were still operating under the philosophy that those Americans have got to pay for us and all of our war expenses against the French.
[100:29] Kim Monson: It's just so amazing how over time we didn't just get to the Declaration of Independence 1776.
[100:40] Kim Monson: I think it's fascinating for people to understand that.
[100:43] Kim Monson: We will continue the discussion with Colonel Bill Rutledge.
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[103:04] Kim Monson: And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
[103:10] Kim Monson: We have prerecorded shows for this week with very special guests.
[103:14] Kim Monson: And pleased to have on the line with me Colonel Bill Rutledge.
[103:20] Kim Monson: December 16th in 1773 was the Boston Tea Party.
[103:23] Kim Monson: But it wasn't just the Boston Tea Party.
[103:30] Kim Monson: And super interesting things that I didn't know about.
[103:34] Kim Monson: You had mentioned Boston Commons, I guess, during break.
[103:38] Kim Monson: So tell us a little bit about Boston Commons and how that relates to the Tea Party.
[103:42] Bill Rutledge: Well, Boston Commons is just what the title indicates.
[103:52] Bill Rutledge: It's right near where their state government is, and there's a big cemetery near there.
[103:59] Bill Rutledge: But it's right in the middle of town, and it takes its pattern from England because almost any town you go to in England, even today, has what's called a common.
[104:13] Bill Rutledge: We would consider it a park, but the common can be used for a number of things that are traditional in their particular part of the world.
[104:25] Bill Rutledge: So Boston Commons was an assembly point within the city of Boston.
[104:32] Bill Rutledge: And they had planted a tree there, and the tree had been planted in 1646.
[104:42] Bill Rutledge: And it was a very big elm tree, and it had grown and grown.
[104:47] Bill Rutledge: And it was a point where people would come and converge to discuss political issues or whatever they wanted.
[104:56] Bill Rutledge: But it was definitely the local people and not representatives of the crown that would come there.
[105:06] Bill Rutledge: And some of their meetings, of course, were opposing some of the taxations that had been imposed upon them.
[105:14] Bill Rutledge: And the tree actually lasted until we were in a situation in 1775.
[105:26] Bill Rutledge: where Boston was occupied by the British, and we were forming an army, and George Washington was coming in July to oppose them.
[105:41] Bill Rutledge: And they just got together and said, hey, the people who were in favor of the crown and British soldiers and some of the British officers, that we're going to wipe this thing out.
[106:04] Bill Rutledge: They just put a plaque up there so that today you could go to Boston Commons and you could see where the tree was.
[106:12] Bill Rutledge: Now, getting back to the era, 1774 and on into early 1775, the Sons of Liberty and the Daughters of Liberty were both very active, covertly in some cases, but very open in some.
[106:34] Bill Rutledge: Now, the Daughters of Liberty were very open in what their position was, and they stopped buying linen and cloth and decorative items from England.
[106:47] Bill Rutledge: And they went back to spinning wheels and also weaving.
[106:57] Bill Rutledge: This really dates from that era, because they took great pride in wearing clothing that they were making and was not coming from England.
[107:09] Bill Rutledge: And this, of course, made a big impact upon retail sales and also on taxes.
[107:18] Bill Rutledge: And they also would not drink any British, any English tea.
[107:25] Bill Rutledge: That was another expensive impact upon English taxation as well as the cost of selling the tea.
[107:36] Bill Rutledge: So there was a mutual understanding among the men and the women that they were making a collective effort to make the British presence in Boston as uncomfortable as possible and to make it where it was not economical to do it.
[107:57] Bill Rutledge: Now, of course, it got so bad that by early in 1775, the British just did a mandate to cut off all cargo, all merchant dealings with New England.
[108:13] Bill Rutledge: Because New England was the focal point on this opposition.
[108:22] Bill Rutledge: And then we have to go back and remember the poem about Paul Revere's ride.
[108:30] Bill Rutledge: And that will give you the time really close, because it starts off on the 18th of April in 75..
[108:41] Bill Rutledge: But it also set the tone for the Boston Marathon, which is traditional and has been for well over 100 years.
[108:54] Bill Rutledge: So if you ever want to wonder, when is the Boston Marathon, just think back to the poem.
[109:04] Bill Rutledge: The race might be on the 17th, but it's always really close to the 18th to be compatible with the time when Paul Revere went out to alert the people at Lexington and Concord that the British were coming.
[109:24] Kim Monson: I've been to Boston maybe twice and have walked on the Freedom Trail, which I think is so fascinating.
[109:34] Kim Monson: It's really quite the interesting city, Colonel Rutledge.
[109:40] Bill Rutledge: And I hope you had the opportunity to go down and walk on board Old Ironside.
[109:49] Bill Rutledge: Okay, that was the ship Constellation, and still in commission.
[109:55] Bill Rutledge: Every year it goes out into the harbor for one day, and they move it around.
[110:02] Bill Rutledge: And it was actually used in battle, not then, but later on in the War of 1812.
[110:12] Bill Rutledge: And it was really, the reason it was called Old Ironside was because it was made out of real heavy oak.
[110:19] Bill Rutledge: And the British cannon from other ships, the cannonballs would bounce off the side of it.
[110:27] Bill Rutledge: And after the War of 1812, there were times when they were going to decommission and either sell it or sink it.
[110:40] Bill Rutledge: and people all around the country and even in public schools, people contributed pennies and money to save the ship.
[110:51] Bill Rutledge: And in elementary school, people used to learn.
[110:56] Bill Rutledge: There was a poem written about old Ironside, and people used to memorize things like that in elementary school.
[111:04] Bill Rutledge: But it was a very important part of the legacy of that era.
[111:10] Kim Monson: Well, and we've got just about a minute left, Colonel Rutledge.
[111:16] Kim Monson: But that spirit, I think, runs through the veins of Americans.
[111:21] Kim Monson: And we're at a time right now where we're engaged in a great battle of ideas.
[111:26] Kim Monson: There are things that the colonists were frustrated about regarding taxation.
[111:30] Kim Monson: We've got pretty excessive taxation here in America now.
[111:34] Kim Monson: So there's some correlations right now.
[111:36] Kim Monson: And I think that we need to reclaim the spirit of America.
[111:41] Kim Monson: What's your final thought you'd like to leave with our listeners, Colonel Rutledge?
[111:45] Bill Rutledge: Well, I think that this year I witnessed a parallel.
[111:52] Bill Rutledge: On the 13th of July, I was watching Trump speak in Butler, Pennsylvania, when he was shot.
[112:01] Bill Rutledge: and when he got up and yelled, fight, fight, fight, I had read a lot about Washington, and I knew that Washington had justified his safety on divine intervention.
[112:15] Bill Rutledge: And I said right then to myself, I said, this is exactly like what happened for Washington.
[112:25] Bill Rutledge: And I said, God saved Washington to save America.
[112:30] Bill Rutledge: And I said, I feel the same thing has happened today.
[112:36] Bill Rutledge: And later, President Trump acknowledged that he believes the same thing.
[112:44] Kim Monson: Colonel Rutledge, thank you so much.
[112:48] Kim Monson: and our quote for the end of the show, I went to Samuel Adams.
[112:51] Kim Monson: He said, It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting the brush fires of freedom in the minds of men.
[113:01] Kim Monson: So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[113:14] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
[113:18] Music/Song: This great unknown.
[113:22] Music/Song: And I don't want no one to cry.
[113:27] Music/Song: But tell them if I don't survive, I was born free.
[113:32] Music/Song: I was born free.
[113:37] Music/Song: I was born free.
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