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[00:59] Producer Steve: Yeah, happy Tuesday, what, June 13th and somewhat historical last 24 hours.
[01:06] Kim Monson: Oh my gosh, congratulations to the Nuggets.
[01:11] Kim Monson: They won the NBA championship last night here in Denver, which in some ways was very exciting.
[01:21] Kim Monson: We'll talk about in some ways it wasn't, but congratulations to them.
[01:26] Kim Monson: And I haven't really been watching NBA basketball.
[01:36] Producer Steve: I've heard it both ways, Jokic and Jokic.
[01:38] Producer Steve: Like you say, I'm guilty like you, not really that closely tuned into it all.
[01:45] Kim Monson: They say he may be the best player ever.
[01:47] Kim Monson: and I was watching the celebration and his wife was in the stands with their, I think their little girl.
[01:56] Kim Monson: And as then, you know, they're going through the celebration and he was holding her.
[02:00] Kim Monson: And Steve, I saw him do something that just endeared him to me.
[02:05] Kim Monson: He has this little girl and I think that he was going to, I think maybe he had her stand on something right next to him.
[02:13] Kim Monson: And so he stood her there and then he pulled down her top so that her top was looked in order, and I thought, oh, my gosh, this is a dad who loves his child.
[02:27] Kim Monson: It was such a moment, just a little thing that I saw that it totally endeared me.
[02:38] Producer Steve: Well, I you know you have to.
[02:41] Producer Steve: We've seen so many, so many of these all-star star athletes who are so full of themselves and they they couldn't be concerned, you know, about anything like that.
[02:54] Producer Steve: And to see this guy step aside just for a moment to do that, just that little thing after he just won of championship.
[03:01] Producer Steve: Yeah, so different.
[03:03] Producer Steve: Radically different.
[03:04] Kim Monson: Oh, I just so I am now a huge fan of his, but super impressive, and congratulations to the Nuggets.
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[03:26] Kim Monson: The girls are coming over tomorrow night, and for take-out or dine-in.
[03:31] Kim Monson: You buy 20 wings, you can get an additional 10 for free.
[03:34] Kim Monson: So guess what I'm going to be getting tomorrow for the girls?
[03:37] Producer Steve: Yeah, I know.
[03:39] Producer Steve: That's just something else that makes your neighborhood interesting besides some other things that you've recently seen.
[03:47] Kim Monson: Okay, so I sent you a text message last night.
[03:52] Kim Monson: I'm trying to take better care of myself, take my vitamins and exercise.
[04:00] Kim Monson: And so I've been trying to go for regular walks.
[04:04] Kim Monson: And so I went for a walk for the first half of the Nuggets game.
[04:08] Kim Monson: And I was walking back and in front of me on the sidewalk, there was a can.
[04:13] Kim Monson: And I thought, well, that's a little weird.
[04:15] Kim Monson: And then I heard a noise and I looked over and these people had had their trash.
[04:21] Kim Monson: Well, I guess they had their trash in their trash can by their house.
[04:25] Kim Monson: Well, had been tipped over, and there was a bear going through their trash.
[04:32] Kim Monson: And then he ran and went up on their tree, and then he came back down and looked at me.
[04:37] Kim Monson: Well, I crossed the street, and I'm trying to get to my phone.
[04:41] Kim Monson: I can hardly get the numbers in to open my phone up, and I took a picture of him, and I sent it to you and some other people.
[04:54] Kim Monson: I didn't think it was that kind of emergency, but I called the police department, and they said, oh, yes, that has been reported.
[05:01] Kim Monson: We've talked to wildlife, and the wildlife division has said just leave it alone.
[05:06] Kim Monson: It'll probably go back up into the mountains.
[05:08] Kim Monson: Now, bear in mind, I'm in a suburban neighborhood that is not near the mountains, and they said give us a call back if it starts to attack.
[05:17] Kim Monson: And I'm like, well, how can I call you if it's attacking me?
[05:29] Kim Monson: I mean, I don't think it probably would hurt me, but I am concerned about children and small dogs.
[05:35] Kim Monson: But they don't seem to be concerned about children and small dogs, Steve.
[05:39] Producer Steve: Until something happens.
[05:41] Producer Steve: But you've already said it.
[05:44] Producer Steve: Your address isn't Morrison or Kitt Ridge or something like that.
[05:48] Producer Steve: I mean, you live in a community at C-470 and 25.
[05:51] Producer Steve: So what is this?
[05:52] Producer Steve: And you know that looks to be about 300 plus 300- 400 pound bear.
[05:57] Kim Monson: What's he doing this far east, you can well imagine so I didn't.
[06:03] Kim Monson: Uh, so this morning, when I'm you and I are doing our pre-call, you're like kim, you didn't share the outline with me and I.
[06:09] Kim Monson: There were a few things I didn't get done last night, and I, I was watching the nuggets also.
[06:14] Kim Monson: But uh, and you said: well, you're probably focused on a bear as well.
[06:18] Kim Monson: Yes, it was, and I, I just was a little shocked, though, call us back if it's attacking, I'm like: well, that would be a little late, but well, what do you think?
[06:30] Kim Monson: So anyway, um, with that one other thing, though, on the nuggets just before 1 a.
[06:38] Kim Monson: The denver police department tweeted that they were investigating a shooting in the 2000 block of market street and denver public police department said nine gun gunshot victims were located.
[06:51] Kim Monson: They also identified a suspect who also sustained a gunshot wound, um, and then, it says around 11: 50 on monday, police department was investigating a shooting near 15th street in tremont and that is a block away from the 16th street mall and several downtown hotels.
[07:11] Kim Monson: Mayor hancock has done a terrible job.
[07:20] Kim Monson: Well, this was around Christmas time.
[07:25] Kim Monson: And if they don't get a handle on this, Denver is going to be, Denver's in a tough spot anyway.
[07:34] Kim Monson: But Michael Johnston, the new mayor had better get his brain around this because this is not okay.
[07:40] Kim Monson: And, you know, where Where are all the people talking about mass shootings?
[07:47] Kim Monson: This is a mass shooting right here in Denver.
[07:49] Kim Monson: But somehow it's getting a little different take on it from what I can tell, Steve.
[07:56] Producer Steve: I think it was 11.
[07:58] Producer Steve: One has to ask, what would the count have been if the Nuggets had lost?
[08:02] Producer Steve: I mean, I'm probably being tacky here.
[08:05] Producer Steve: But how is this a part of celebrating a sporting event?
[08:12] Producer Steve: Professional sports has been here for well over 100 years.
[08:18] Producer Steve: Championships have been won all over the place, all over the country, and in other countries, too.
[08:21] Producer Steve: And in the last, I don't know, how many years, we have this.
[08:24] Producer Steve: You destroy stuff when your team wins?
[08:26] Producer Steve: Yeah, you destroy, and now you're pretty liberal with the usage of handguns.
[08:33] Kim Monson: Well, and so that is why, though, we need to make sure that, because you and I were talking pre-show as well, could this have been a couple of gangs that had, you know, gotten into it or whatever, but that's why law-abiding regular citizens, their right to bear arms should not be infringed, because if the city of Denver can't get it together, everyday people need to be able to protect themselves at all times, even if Denver could get it together.
[09:04] Kim Monson: But the right to bear arms is so, so important.
[09:07] Kim Monson: But we've got a jam-packed show planned for you today, so I need to stay on task.
[09:13] Kim Monson: First thing is, I'll go to our word of the day.
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[09:44] Kim Monson: Word of the day is from Joe, our listener.
[09:47] Kim Monson: It is tautology, and it is the needless repetition of the same sense in different words, redundancy, repetition, an empty or vacuous statement composed of simpler statements in a fashion that makes it logically true whether the simpler statements are factually true or false.
[10:09] Kim Monson: For example, the statement, either it will rain tomorrow or it will not rain tomorrow.
[10:17] Kim Monson: The tautology of the mainstream media and PBIs regarding the attack on President Donald Trump is exhausting and counterproductive to the flourishing of everyday, hardworking Americans.
[10:30] Producer Steve: Well done.
[10:31] Producer Steve: Thank you.
[10:32] Kim Monson: And I don't want to get us too jammed up here because we're going to be talking with Senator Kevin Lundberg, former State Senator Kevin Lundberg.
[10:40] Kim Monson: But I've got to tell you the story of our quote of the day.
[10:49] Kim Monson: And I had alluded to this story, talked a little bit about it, I think, last week.
[10:55] Kim Monson: They're called Pueblo Home, one of the four Medal of Honor recipients.
[11:29] Kim Monson: Crawford preferred to keep his experiences in World War II to himself.
[11:33] Kim Monson: But in fact, he'd seen more action in the European theater of operations than most of those young people ever would.
[11:40] Kim Monson: It was his actions in 1943 that brought Crawford such spectacular acclaim, even as he wasted away in a German prisoner of war camp.
[11:50] Kim Monson: One day in September of 1943, in Italy, Private Crawford was with his platoon, the 36th Infantry Division of the U.
[11:59] Kim Monson: Army, when orders came for them to seize a hill near Alta Villa Salentina.
[12:05] Kim Monson: It was not an easy task, as his company was hemmed in and fired upon whenever they tried to move.
[12:11] Kim Monson: On impulse, Crawford decided to act.
[12:15] Kim Monson: He inched his way forward, belly to the ground, and once close enough, he tossed a grenade squarely at three German soldiers trying desperately to keep the hill.
[12:23] Kim Monson: His comrades then followed, inching their way up to meet Crawford.
[12:27] Kim Monson: Again, Crawford crawled forward and took out another enemy machine gun nest with a direct grenade hit.
[12:33] Kim Monson: After his comrades caught up, he repeated the process yet again with another group of Germans huddled around a machine gun.
[12:41] Kim Monson: The remaining Germans ran off and the Americans captured the hill.
[12:44] Kim Monson: Crawford had eliminated three enemy positions almost by himself.
[12:49] Kim Monson: But not all went smoothly afterwards.
[12:52] Kim Monson: In the heat and confusion of battle, his fellow soldiers thought Crawford had been killed.
[12:56] Kim Monson: They told their superiors of his brave deeds.
[12:59] Kim Monson: And there was always a witness to the Medal of Honor.
[13:04] Kim Monson: And it was, we interviewed his sister, John Chapman, who was killed in his actions.
[13:11] Kim Monson: Actually, the witness on that, they had drones that were over, and that was on a mountain in Afghanistan.
[13:19] Kim Monson: But they're always as witnesses to those that received the Medal of Honor.
[13:24] Kim Monson: It wasn't until all the POW camps were liberated that the Army discovered Crawford was still alive.
[13:29] Kim Monson: And that he obviously had no clue that he had received this prestigious honor.
[13:34] Kim Monson: His father had accepted his medal at the formal ceremony, believing his son had been killed.
[13:42] Kim Monson: In spite of these events, or perhaps because of them, Crawford stayed in the Army until 1967 when he retired with the rank of Master Sergeant.
[13:52] Kim Monson: Not surprisingly, retirement did not suit this soldier, so he took a job as a janitor at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs.
[13:58] Kim Monson: And there he worked anonymously until one day in 1976, a young cadet began reading a book about the Allied invasion of Europe.
[14:06] Kim Monson: He was dumbfounded when he read Crawford's name and quickly told his classmates who the man who cleaned their quarters really was.
[14:13] Kim Monson: The story that I heard, Steve, is that he actually went up to Crawford and he said, are you the Medal of Honor recipient?
[14:22] Kim Monson: And Crawford replied to him, yes, that was a day a long time ago.
[14:28] Kim Monson: So anyway, can you imagine now the cadets know that the janitor that's been cleaning up after them is a Medal of Honor recipient?
[14:35] Kim Monson: It took some coaxing, but Crawford finally told his awestruck audience about his actions during the war.
[14:41] Kim Monson: When he mused that he didn't get to attend his Medal of Honor ceremony because he was in a POW camp, the faculty and student body were inspired to find a way to correct the oversight.
[14:51] Kim Monson: On graduation day in 1984, President Ronald Reagan came to address the student body.
[14:54] Kim Monson: The Academy had arranged for Crawford to finally get the recognition he so richly deserved.
[15:00] Kim Monson: The brave soldier got his commendation from the President of the United States in person, decades after he was first awarded the medal.
[15:06] Kim Monson: William Crawford passed away in 2000 at 81 years old.
[15:11] Kim Monson: At his home, he is the only enlisted person from the U.
[15:13] Kim Monson: Army to be buried with full honors at the U.
[15:15] Kim Monson: Air Force Academy Cemetery in Colorado.
[15:18] Kim Monson: His honors came late, but honors aren't what William Crawford was about.
[15:21] Kim Monson: He was a patriot, a man who served his country tirelessly, bravely, and for a long time in anonymity.
[15:28] Kim Monson: But the students in Colorado changed that once they recognized this hero in their midst.
[15:33] Kim Monson: And when the time came, they gave him the final resting place of a hero, too.
[15:45] Kim Monson: He said, oh, gosh, Steve, I have it.
[15:51] Kim Monson: It's basically, I have too many pieces of paper.
[15:54] Producer Steve: This is it.
[15:55] Kim Monson: He said, money is nothing if you lose your country.
[16:00] Producer Steve: Boy, does that apply today.
[16:04] Kim Monson: And I bring these stories to you because of the new relationship I have with the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado.
[16:13] Kim Monson: It is a tremendous organization focusing on honor, integrity, and patriotism.
[16:18] Kim Monson: They have all kinds of educational programs for educators and teaching children.
[16:23] Kim Monson: and they do have their Portraits of Valor, which is 160 plus portraits of Medal of Honor recipients with their quotes.
[16:32] Kim Monson: And you can get more information at AmericanValueCenter.
[16:36] Kim Monson: But boy, this story just takes my breath away.
[16:42] Producer Steve: I'm sitting here thinking, and I'm repressed for time, in the obscenity of the World War II, that it was, you know, the obscenity to human history.
[16:52] Producer Steve: And you're thinking of all the things that went so wrong, and how many people lost their lives.
[16:58] Producer Steve: And you're looking for something, you know, to offset that.
[17:02] Producer Steve: And boy, that story, that's something.
[17:06] Kim Monson: And again, my friends, as we're looking at what's happening in 2023 America, money is nothing if we lose our country.
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[19:29] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
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[19:39] Kim Monson: comvery pleased to have on the line with me a former state senator Kevin Lundberg.
[19:44] Kim Monson: He is the author of the Lundberg Report.
[19:47] Kim Monson: I would highly recommend that you put that on your weekly things to do to make sure that you check in with that.
[19:54] Kim Monson: He does great analysis on things that are happening in Colorado.
[19:57] Kim Monson: And he also does a weekly call on Monday mornings as well that the information is at his website, how you can access that.
[20:06] Kim Monson: Kevin Lundberg, welcome to the show.
[20:11] Kevin Lundberg: It's always good to be on and dig deeper into some of the issues that are concerning us as citizens of the great state of Colorado.
[20:31] Kim Monson: The great state of Colorado because of its, yeah, anyway, there's plenty.
[20:38] Kim Monson: Well, you and I both watched this legislative session very closely, as well as Sue Moore over with the group at Liberty Scorecard and, of course, all my fellow CUT or Colorado Union of Taxpayer Board members.
[20:42] Kim Monson: But at the very end, there was a really bad boy that was passed.
[20:47] Kim Monson: It was Senate Bill 303, which is going to be probably, well, it's going to be on the ballot right now.
[20:56] Kim Monson: And it is a very naughty piece of legislation, Kevin Lundberg.
[21:05] Kevin Lundberg: And it actually has a companion piece of legislation that kind of reinforces what it's doing.
[21:19] Kevin Lundberg: According to the legislature, the small reduced title is reduced property taxes and voter- approvedrevenue change.
[21:28] Kevin Lundberg: But let me get into one little detail, and I'll try to be quick, kind of, sort of, because it was challenged because of the title.
[21:39] Kevin Lundberg: We have a rule here in Colorado, a constitutional rule, that says every bill shall have a title with a single subject.
[21:47] Kevin Lundberg: In other words, you don't make this Christmas tree of legislation like they do with the federal government.
[21:53] Kevin Lundberg: Well, this bill, hang on, and we may need to go to break right after this, but here's the actual title to this bill.
[22:00] Kevin Lundberg: Concerning a reduction in property taxes and, in connection therewith, creating a limit on annual property tax increases for certain local governments.
[22:07] Kevin Lundberg: Temporarily reducing the valuation for assessment of certain residential and non- residentialproperty.
[22:12] Kevin Lundberg: Creating new subclasses of property permitting the state to retain and spend revenue up to the Proposition HH cap.
[22:19] Kevin Lundberg: Requiring the retained revenue to be used to reimburse certain local governments for lost property tax revenue to be deposited in the state education fund to backfill the reduction in school district property tax revenue.
[22:31] Kevin Lundberg: Transferring general fund money to the state public school fund and to a cash fund to also be used for the reimbursements.
[22:38] Kevin Lundberg: Eliminating the cap on the amount of excess state revenues that may be used for the reimbursements for the 2023 property tax year.
[22:44] Kevin Lundberg: Referring a ballot issue and making an appropriation.
[22:47] Kevin Lundberg: Now, that was challenged because somehow that's not a single subject.
[22:54] Kim Monson: I mean, it's comical, Kevin Lundberg.
[23:07] Kim Monson: So that would probably be a judge that was appointed by a radical, more of the radical activist and Democrat side, I guess?
[23:16] Kevin Lundberg: Well, I don't know who the judge was, but I know the judge was appointed by most probably a Democrat governor, because that's about all we've had for the last 50 years.
[23:27] Kevin Lundberg: But yes, I wanted to start with that certainty there, and maybe a lighter note on a really bad subject.
[23:58] Kevin Lundberg: But this bill, which is now law, and as I say, was challenged on a very legitimate concern that this is not a single subject, was designed to take away the final element, the final tooth in Tabor, we'll put it that way.
[24:00] Kevin Lundberg: Because the Taxpayers' Bill of Rights that was created, what, about 31 years ago, tended to limit the growth of government to a simple formula of population plus inflation.
[24:20] Kevin Lundberg: And any money that was collected beyond that is to be returned to the people who paid the taxes, a refund.
[24:31] Kevin Lundberg: Anyway, through the years, they have carved away at Tabor, and the only thing left was the Tabor refund, which had been severely hobbled by what was called Referendum C, I don't know, 15- plus yearsago.
[24:45] Kevin Lundberg: But this bill, HH, actually changes the formula for how much money they can keep by adding a little plus 1%.
[24:56] Kevin Lundberg: And over the years, that compounds to completely eliminate any rational limits on how much money they can keep.
[25:04] Kevin Lundberg: And remember this, it's not just an economics issue of how much cash is in the government till.
[25:12] Kevin Lundberg: No, the more money they get, the less liberty we have.
[25:17] Kevin Lundberg: So this all kind of fits together very neatly in a very big government takeover plan.
[25:28] Kim Monson: And there's a lot more that we need to talk about that.
[25:36] Kim Monson: And we do want to talk about that companion bill, which was House Bill 1311, I think, as well.
[25:53] Kevin Lundberg: And so, first of all, we needed a– I'm glad that you were able to get that whole single- subject title outthere, because sure is a lot of words for a single subject.
[25:49] Kim Monson: And I'm very disappointed that a judge would not rule in favor of the challenge on that.
[26:00] Kevin Lundberg: Yeah, and this actually goes to another element, that the leadership in the legislature right now, the majority party, has been abusing the process in so many ways.
[26:35] Kevin Lundberg: But now the courts are backing them up on this because I thought, well, at least a judge is going to look at this and realize that it's a basic violation of an essential principle in Colorado legislation, which is you have a single subject.
[26:43] Kevin Lundberg: And this way you don't make all the Christmas tree amendments that you see at the federal government where they're, you know, they're naming post offices on a military appropriations bill or, you know, anybody can just kind of add on where I really think that this really blew that concept of the single subject right out of the water.
[26:49] Kevin Lundberg: But, yeah, but again, the biggest issue of HH is it's meant to grow government by getting rid of Tabor.
[27:00] Kevin Lundberg: And I call 1311 son of Polis Extortion Act because they're coercing the people of Colorado to do this.
[27:10] Kevin Lundberg: And we'll, I don't know if you've got time to dig into it right now or we.
[27:15] Kim Monson: Yeah, let's do that in just a moment.
[27:16] Kim Monson: I'm talking with former state senator Kevin Lundberg, and we're talking about something that was passed by the legislature at the very end of the session.
[27:26] Kim Monson: Just on the fact that it's so poorly written and that there is really a Christmas tree of a bunch of stuff is in there.
[27:37] Kim Monson: But and it is good that people are getting informed about this.
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[29:36] Kim Monson: We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[29:46] Kim Monson: You should not have to force people to do it.
[29:48] Kim Monson: And ultimately, bigger and bigger government makes the individual smaller and smaller.
[29:56] Kim Monson: And the only way that bigger government can survive and grow is by taking more and more of your money and my money, your money, our money.
[30:08] Kim Monson: And one of the ways that they do that, obviously, is through taxation.
[30:14] Kim Monson: And so we've got this Proposition HH that is going to be on the ballot.
[30:19] Kim Monson: It was referred by the legislature to the ballot.
[30:22] Kim Monson: And Senator Lundberg, former State Senator Kevin Lundberg, there's two ways that things can get onto the ballot.
[30:30] Kim Monson: And one is the initiative process, which, you know, we see people standing out in front of the hardware store, the grocery store, getting signatures.
[30:36] Kim Monson: The other is to be referred to the ballot by the legislature.
[30:40] Kim Monson: And it seems that those types of questions right now get a whole lot more leeway in their titles, and that versus when people are trying to get something through the initiative process.
[30:57] Kevin Lundberg: I actually engaged in an initiative effort and was challenged at every level.
[31:07] Kevin Lundberg: and the title- setting process iswhere they really get down and get tight on this and say, well, you can't do this, you can't say this, etc., etc., etc.
[31:27] Kevin Lundberg: But, yeah, the legislature is kind of given free reign.
[31:33] Kevin Lundberg: They are assumed to have plenary power because it's stated that they do within the Constitution.
[31:39] Kevin Lundberg: But the people are also very clearly stated to be the ultimate authority and to have the direct authority to go around the legislature in creating law.
[31:49] Kevin Lundberg: But it's not an even playing field, and this is, you know, it's obvious how they kind of twisted the system around to get this law in place.
[32:01] Kevin Lundberg: Now, the reason it goes to a vote of the people is because Tabor does say very clearly and explicitly that if you're going to change tax rates that are going to raise revenue, additional revenue, that you need to take it to the vote of the people.
[32:19] Kevin Lundberg: And they've tried to get around that by a whole lot of different mechanisms as well.
[32:22] Kevin Lundberg: But this one is such a frontal attack on the taxes that the government will be able to keep that it does still require a vote of the people.
[32:37] Kim Monson: So the fight is on then because this is going to be a question on the ballot in November.
[32:46] Kim Monson: So, in a way, I feel this is such an opportunity because people have gotten their new property assessments.
[32:54] Kim Monson: And if there is no property tax relief, people could be seeing 30%, 40%, 60% increase in theirproperty taxes.
[33:08] Kim Monson: Is that a correct statement, unless something is done?
[33:13] Kevin Lundberg: only because of its scene within the context of this particular context of this particular
[33:20] Kevin Lundberg: proposal that they're calling HHS at this point, that really won't eliminate the problem of this huge explosion in taxes that's going to occur, property taxes, because of the assessment rates changing.
[33:35] Kevin Lundberg: You know, my house, they decided that my house increased in value by 58%.
[33:50] Kevin Lundberg: And this bill, if HHS, there will be a minor reduction in the property tax assessment rates, and it's a really complicated formula, so you can't really sort it out and say, oh, it's going to be X percentage.
[34:07] Kevin Lundberg: No, Because all that gobbledygook that I read to you in the title, that was to capture the fact that they were not just lowering some assessment rates, and it was very, very minor.
[34:21] Kevin Lundberg: Like commercial property, I think it was like five hundredths of one percent or something like that.
[34:28] Kevin Lundberg: But the effect it will have on your property tax bill will be very marginal.
[34:38] Kevin Lundberg: So, you know, maybe if you paid$ 2,000 last year in property tax and you're going to see a$ 3,500 bill next year if nothing changes, it might mean that you'll pay a$ 3,400 bill instead.
[34:56] Kevin Lundberg: That's the effect it will have on the individual property tax owner at that level.
[35:01] Kevin Lundberg: But because it also adds that one percentage point compounding every year growing to the refund mechanism, it means refunds will, in somewhere between 8 to 12 years, the government will be keeping everything.
[35:20] Kevin Lundberg: And, you know, last year that amounted to$ 750 per person.
[35:30] Kevin Lundberg: And we anticipate it will be a little bit less this year, but we're talking about a huge amount of money compared to a fairly small amount of money.
[35:39] Kevin Lundberg: And yet they're going to play this up because this is the way HH works.
[35:47] Kevin Lundberg: It says, shall we reduce the amount of property taxes if you will allow us to grow the amount of money we can keep ultimately?
[35:57] Kevin Lundberg: And that's why I call it the Polis Extortion Act, because they're really putting a tiny little carrot out in front of us, trying to make us think that, oh, this is going to be good for my bottom line, whereas stealing.
[36:13] Kevin Lundberg: and if you really stretch it out over the lifetime of our existence, Lord willing, it's tens of billions of dollars.
[36:27] Kevin Lundberg: Down 20, 30 years from now, the government will have taken just an incredible fortune from the people of Colorado, all to get this tiny little incremental drop in the property tax assessment, which still will be an incredible increase next year because of what's happened.
[36:51] Kim Monson: So this is the thing that I'm trying to connect this dot.
[36:56] Kim Monson: And that is, so I've heard the narrative out there that if we lower property taxes, I mean the bottom line is we need to lower taxes That's what we need to do So first of all we're looking at And this is what's so funny I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties I would not put you in that category I think that you are a statesman In the true sense of the word So I don't put you over there in that PBI list But there's a whole bunch of people over there From both sides of the aisle So if nothing is done, school districts, fire districts, special districts, park districts, the amount that they take from the people will increase significantly because they are taxing.
[37:55] Kim Monson: If they don't do anything with the mill levy, they have something that is now valued much higher And so their taxes, their tax, the revenue that I hate to say revenue, the money they take from the citizen will increase that amount as well.
[38:16] Kevin Lundberg: If your property tax like mine went up 58 percent, you can expect the tax bill to be 58 percent higher.
[38:27] Kevin Lundberg: And this changes a tiny little bit if HH passes, but it doesn't mean your property taxes are going to be lower.
[38:39] Kim Monson: So, then, the argument that I have heard out there is that all these special districts are concerned if we lowered the property tax rate.
[38:51] Kim Monson: However, we get to a point where we're lowering taxes.
[38:54] Kim Monson: I've heard people say, oh, the school districts, XXX, all these districts will be losing money.
[39:01] Kim Monson: Well, that doesn't seem to make sense.
[39:03] Kim Monson: If they lowered taxes, lowered the mill levy at each of these districts, if they lowered that property tax mill levy, they have this huge increase.
[39:16] Kim Monson: And they're saying that if they don't get that whole increase, that they're losing money.
[39:20] Kim Monson: And then the way I'm understanding it is Polis and company are saying, oh, okay, we'll lower that assessment rate a little bit right now.
[39:30] Kim Monson: But to make you, and I have this in air quotes, whole so that you get that complete increase, special district.
[39:37] Kim Monson: We're going to then take everybody's TABOR refunds and get it to a point where we will take them forever, so that we can make you district, government, district whole, so that you can get that whole increase.
[39:54] Kim Monson: I know that sounds like gobbledygook, but am I getting that?
[40:04] Kevin Lundberg: The very concept that, because property taxes have gone up way past the regular inflation rate right now, that somehow every district deserves that complete increase for their revenue or for their money is absurd.
[40:31] Kevin Lundberg: If you're a sewer district and you've got fixed costs, you're paying off bonds, you're just doing business as usual, your expenses did not automatically increase.
[40:47] Kevin Lundberg: And far too many entities in government think that that's their money.
[40:53] Kevin Lundberg: That's our money that we have paid for the government services that occur through these various districts.
[41:03] Kevin Lundberg: Now, okay, yeah, yeah, that probably covers it essentially.
[41:14] Kim Monson: Now, so the answer, because I had Ben Murray on last week from the Independence Institute.
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[41:28] Kim Monson: And we talked about Proposition HH.
[41:31] Kim Monson: And he said it's a losing proposition either way because property taxes would be going up without Proposition HH.
[41:43] Kim Monson: And under Proposition HH, there might be a little bit of property tax relief for a few years.
[41:49] Kim Monson: And in exchange for that, to your point, it's extortion that you would give up your your our our Tabor refunds forever.
[41:58] Kim Monson: If if if we want to vote to give up our Tabor refunds right now, that's one thing.
[42:04] Kim Monson: But I think there's something immoral about voting to take away our next generation's Tabor refunds.
[42:13] Kevin Lundberg: And this is the perversity of this particular measure, is they say, because there really shouldn't be any connection between what our property taxes pay and what Tabor's refund mechanism should be.
[42:31] Kevin Lundberg: But they have constructed this bargain they want to make where we, the people of Colorado, will save a few million dollars in potential more property tax bills right now in exchange for billions and billions of dollars that they get to keep in the future.
[42:54] Kevin Lundberg: Yeah, and yet this is why I call it extortion, because it's a government official coercing the people into a decision that shouldn't be coerced.
[43:09] Kevin Lundberg: And then on top of that, let me just throw this 1311 bill in, because that flattens the refunds, but only if HH passes.
[43:18] Kevin Lundberg: So the the refunds, and what I mean by flattens is is: um uh, refunds are supposed to be refunding the money that the taxpayer paid more than they should have, okay, and therefore we've had these kind of rough figures of of: uh, your refund increases as your your income, uh, taxable income- grows because you paid more.
[43:43] Kevin Lundberg: You paid more of those taxes initially, and so last year to buy votes, literally to buy votes in the gubernatorial election, and you know the general election.
[44:01] Kevin Lundberg: And, you know, a lot of people who are not in the higher income brackets got a lot more money.
[44:09] Kevin Lundberg: And they kind of twisted it around and they did it for pure political purposes.
[44:21] Kevin Lundberg: Well, now they want to do this again for this next year.
[44:26] Kevin Lundberg: And that will buy more votes because it says we will flatten this and more voters who are, you know, in a lower bracket will get more money from the refunds.
[44:39] Kevin Lundberg: funds, but only if you vote yes on HH and they get to change this whole formula for other things.
[44:48] Kevin Lundberg: And it's just, it just makes me very angry at how they're getting away with such deception in our election process.
[45:01] Kim Monson: Well, and that's why shedding light on this is so important.
[45:04] Kim Monson: And that's why the work that you're doing at the Lundberg Report is so important as well.
[45:09] Kim Monson: And we get to have these conversations to help you become informed on what is happening out there.
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[47:43] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[47:47] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[47:51] Kim Monson: And I did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation, raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax.
[47:59] Kim Monson: And my friends, it is important that we know our history, appreciate our history, know the stories of those that have given their lives, been willing to give their lives for our freedom.
[48:11] Kim Monson: We are engaging in a big battle of ideas in America right now.
[48:14] Kim Monson: But there are those who went into battle so that we could do this.
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[48:26] Kim Monson: Kevin Lundberg, it always goes so quickly, and I got us a little jammed up in that second segment, so I apologize.
[48:32] Kim Monson: So we've got probably about six minutes.
[48:34] Kim Monson: I'm going to just give it to you and take it.
[48:38] Kim Monson: What else do people need to know about Proposition HH and also House Bill 1311?
[48:43] Kevin Lundberg: Well, I think we've covered the major portions of it.
[48:52] Kevin Lundberg: This puts a vote before the people of Colorado, all full of porridge in exchange for our inheritance.
[49:05] Kevin Lundberg: I mean, I see it in biblical terms, you might say, and I'm sure most understand what I'm talking about there, because in the bigger picture, HH will return a few dollars of relief, but in exchange for this long-term big chunk of cash that they'll get to keep forever and ever down the road in the state of Colorado.
[49:36] Kevin Lundberg: Now, there's one other element I want to add just to give a small ray of hope.
[49:41] Kevin Lundberg: I mean, we can vote it down, and I hope we do, and we've got to get the word out.
[49:44] Kevin Lundberg: But then you're left with this issue of, but the property taxes are going to go crazy.
[49:52] Kevin Lundberg: Well, there's one little ray of good news out of the legislative process this year, and that was Senate Bill 108.
[50:06] Kevin Lundberg: Here's the title, Concerning Temporary Reductions in Property Taxes Due.
[50:12] Kevin Lundberg: Because that's a proper title to a bill, a single subject.
[50:16] Kevin Lundberg: It allows any district, any taxing district, to temporarily reduce their mill levy rates or some other tax credit system to make sure that they don't get this huge windfall that they're going to take from the people in their district.
[50:33] Kevin Lundberg: So this means sewer districts, school districts, counties, whatever taxing district that's out there that collects money from property taxes can actually take and simply say, no, we're not going to go that far.
[50:47] Kevin Lundberg: People need to know this Because they need to contact The boards that run these Various districts who can Give adequate and appropriate Tax relief That can go way beyond the amounts Of HH, which is so Tiny really in comparison.
[51:06] Kevin Lundberg: So You know It hasn't gotten a lot of play, But Districts don't have to play the game of taking such huge amounts of money from the people of Colorado.
[51:22] Kevin Lundberg: And this is, man, one of like two or three little bright points I see out of the legislative process this last year, and everything else is just flat-out bad news.
[51:33] Kim Monson: Well, and interestingly, it has three Republican sponsors on it and one Democrat, and I'm surprised who the Democrat is.
[51:44] Kim Monson: But hats off to Senator Mark Baisley, Republican Representative Rose Puglisi and Representative Lisa Frizzell, that they are sponsors on this bill.
[51:55] Kim Monson: And bless them, they were able to get bipartisan support on this.
[52:03] Kevin Lundberg: And I watched this bill because they had put it off and put it off.
[52:06] Kevin Lundberg: And I thought, oh, they're going to kill it because there were some other good tax reduction measures in place.
[52:13] Kevin Lundberg: recognizing that we have a perfect storm here where the assessment rates for 2022 is what everything's based on.
[52:24] Kevin Lundberg: And that's kind of the high watermark on low interest rates, increasing property values.
[52:29] Kevin Lundberg: And now we get into 2023, the interest rates have gone through the roof.
[52:32] Kevin Lundberg: And you may think your property is still worth that amount, but you've got to find a buyer to make that show.
[52:39] Kevin Lundberg: And even with that, it's just such an excessive increase.
[52:47] Kevin Lundberg: But here, this is a little bit of relief that can be created.
[52:53] Kevin Lundberg: But we've got to do our due diligence and go to every local taxing district.
[52:58] Kevin Lundberg: And the board that runs that will have time to change their, you know, change the gears in their system.
[53:08] Kevin Lundberg: And that's what we elected them for, was to be reasonable with, you know, with what they demand.
[53:17] Kevin Lundberg: And it's temporary, so it's not this painful, oh, we'll never be able to, you know, undo this.
[53:23] Kevin Lundberg: Well, they can, but I hope they put in a pattern of lowering taxes every year rather than the automatic ratcheting everything up always because somehow they deserve it more than we, the people who actually produce the money.
[53:39] Kim Monson: Government does not produce anything whatsoever.
[53:42] Kim Monson: And the other thing, and we're just about out of time, but Tabor, you know, one of the things we've been talking about is that it says government can grow a population plus inflation.
[53:51] Kim Monson: We need to also understand that inflation is government-induced.
[53:59] Kim Monson: I mean, ultimately, he said inflation is government-induced.
[54:03] Kim Monson: So this is going to be just a really interesting conversation.
[54:07] Kim Monson: We will continue this, Kevin Lundberg.
[54:09] Kim Monson: And again, how can people get more information about the Lundberg Report?
[54:20] Kevin Lundberg: I send out weekly email reminders, but I learned a long time ago you can't trust the email provider to actually come through when there's a really important issue.
[54:33] Kevin Lundberg: Even the past reports you can go back and read for hours and hours and hours if you want.
[54:40] Kevin Lundberg: Right on the front page you can see click on Lundberg Report or click on Subscribe, and we'll send you an email reminder every week.
[54:50] Kim Monson: I always learn so much, and we'll get you on again.
[54:54] Kim Monson: It's so important that people hear the information that you have researched.
[54:58] Kim Monson: And the quote for the end of the show is Benjamin Franklin.
[55:02] Kim Monson: He said, freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government.
[55:06] Kim Monson: When this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins.
[55:13] Kim Monson: So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate endless and well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[55:27] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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[56:30] Kim Monson: Welcome to hour number two of the Kim Monson Show.
[56:34] Kim Monson: You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose today.
[56:37] Kim Monson: Strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body.
[56:41] Kim Monson: My friends, we were made for this moment.
[56:43] Kim Monson: And thank you to the team I work with, producer Steve, producer Luke, Zach, Patty, Keith, Charlie, Echo, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting.
[56:52] Producer Steve: Yes, happy Tuesday.
[56:53] Producer Steve: You know, we forgot to talk about the weather last hour.
[56:56] Producer Steve: Oh.
[56:59] Kim Monson: Oh, yesterday, were you home when there was, I have not heard rolling thunder.
[57:09] Kim Monson: I'm like, oh my gosh, God is making sure that he lets us know who is in charge here.
[57:14] Kim Monson: Did you hear that crack of rolling thunder?
[57:16] Producer Steve: You know, I saw the flash and you always wait, count the time.
[57:21] Producer Steve: And when the thunder came, it just about seemed like it was going to knock the house over.
[57:28] Kim Monson: But, oh, the grass is so beautiful.
[57:34] Kim Monson: So last night, I took a little walk, as we mentioned, in the first hour.
[57:40] Kim Monson: And did you know there's a lot of wildlife over in my community now?
[57:47] Producer Steve: Yeah, one type in particular.
[57:49] Kim Monson: Yes, I mentioned it in the first hour that I was on an evening walk, just admiring the sky and the grass and the birds.
[57:59] Kim Monson: And I saw this can on the sidewalk.
[58:02] Kim Monson: I thought, well, that's a little odd.
[58:04] Kim Monson: And then I heard this noise and I looked over and there was a bear going through and knocked over a trash can.
[58:09] Kim Monson: It was going through my neighbor's trash.
[58:16] Kim Monson: I crossed the street and was trying frantically to take a picture, which I did, which I sent over to you.
[58:22] Kim Monson: But it kind of took my breath away.
[58:24] Producer Steve: As it should.
[58:25] Producer Steve: I mean, if your address were Kittredge or Morrison, yeah, okay, you would expect to see that.
[58:32] Producer Steve: But, you know, you live close to I-25 and C-470.
[58:36] Producer Steve: That's not mountainous terrain.
[58:39] Kim Monson: So I called the police department who said that it had been reported previously that the Division of Wildlife had said that just ignore it, leave it alone, and it'll probably go back up to the mountains and call them back if it attacks.
[58:55] Kim Monson: And I'm like, well, how can I call you if it's attacking me?
[58:58] Kim Monson: And I could kind of hear the dispatchers thinking that's a good point.
[59:07] Kim Monson: They won the NBA championship last night, first time ever.
[59:12] Kim Monson: And I mentioned it in the first hour as well.
[59:16] Kim Monson: Jokic, who is the star player, there are those that say he may be the best player ever.
[59:26] Kim Monson: He had his little girl, toddler, and I think he was going to make some comments.
[59:32] Kim Monson: And I think he stood her up at a table next to him or whatever.
[59:35] Kim Monson: But he then just pulled her top down, you know, and made sure that it was all in order.
[59:40] Kim Monson: And it just, it's like, oh, I am now a big fan of his.
[59:44] Kim Monson: Just that tenderness of a father to a little girl.
[59:48] Producer Steve: Somebody else noted on Facebook that he has to be probably one of the most stellar examples of humility.
[59:56] Producer Steve: You know, he's just not a showboat.
[59:58] Producer Steve: And I don't know.
[59:59] Producer Steve: I hope they can hold on to this guy for a while.
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[60:18] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[60:25] Kim Monson: And the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado, is doing amazing things.
[60:33] Kim Monson: He is a Medal of Honor recipient for actions that he took during the Vietnam War.
[60:40] Kim Monson: And Brad Padula, who is an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker.
[60:46] Kim Monson: And the two of them said, we need to be pushing to continue to understand these values of America, and that is honor, integrity, and patriotism.
[60:56] Kim Monson: And so the Center for American Values was born.
[60:59] Kim Monson: And you can get more information at AmericanValueCenter.
[61:04] Kim Monson: I'm going through, they have this fabulous quote book that I would recommend each and every one of us have in our Freedom Library at our homes.
[61:13] Kim Monson: But one of the things there at the center is they have these portraits of valor, and they're portraits of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients with a quote.
[61:25] Kim Monson: I've not actually, you can't take it all in just in one trip.
[61:29] Kim Monson: But I would highly recommend you put the fam in the car and head down to Pueblo, to the Center for American Values.
[61:35] Kim Monson: And then I was talking about Pueblo.
[61:42] Kim Monson: And all of a sudden, I was just looking at the river walk.
[61:47] Kim Monson: And a gondola goes by on the river.
[61:50] Kim Monson: And then a little tour boat goes by.
[61:52] Kim Monson: And so I said, I really like Pueblo.
[61:55] Kim Monson: And Steve, you're going to love this from one of our listeners.
[61:59] Kim Monson: They said, and I said, they probably don't want me to talk about that because they look at people from Denver moving down there like we look at people from California moving to Colorado.
[62:07] Kim Monson: And this listener said, I agree with you, Kim Monson.
[62:11] Kim Monson: I moved down here to Pueblo from Lakewood three years ago and absolutely love it.
[62:16] Kim Monson: Please no more talk of how absolutely wonderful it is because it is.
[62:21] Producer Steve: Well, congratulations to the local government, though, for making it such.
[62:25] Producer Steve: I mean, we all know Pueblo has played such a huge role in the state's industry over the years and in the war effort.
[62:34] Producer Steve: And then they kind of got caught in the downside of that in terms of a fading industrial, you know, that happens all over the U.
[62:45] Producer Steve: S.
[62:45] Producer Steve: And so they have revitalized in a great way.
[62:49] Kim Monson: And again, I would recommend to this summer, that should be on your bucket list, to go down to the Center for American Values.
[62:56] Kim Monson: You can get more information at AmericanValuesCenter.
[63:02] Kim Monson: And very excited to have on the line with me.
[63:05] Kim Monson: He is the host of the Matt Dark Show.
[63:11] Kim Monson: And I wanted to talk about just what Roots Medical is doing, helping people that may be jab injured.
[63:22] Matt Dark: And I love you were saying Pueblo.
[63:25] Matt Dark: My grandfather was from Pueblo.
[63:30] Matt Dark: So I have a lot of fond childhood memories of Pueblo and looks very different than it does today, for sure from 30 years ago.
[63:40] Kim Monson: But I have been going down there for different events now at the Center for American Values.
[63:48] Kim Monson: But let's talk about Roots Medical.
[63:49] Kim Monson: And Roots Medical, that's R-O-O-T-S, Roots Medical, getting to the root of your health versus just a Band-Aid, a pharmaceutical, something just to throw on, you know, to address a problem.
[64:04] Kim Monson: I mean, you get to the root, and you're also looking at treatments that in some ways might be alternatives to, you know, other things out there.
[64:18] Matt Dark: Well, you know, before COVID, it was all about roots medicals of practice, getting to the root of your health care concern.
[64:26] Matt Dark: And most of the stuff, most disease, if not all, most fatigue, lack of immune response, hormone function, all these things are taking place as a result of poor gut health.
[64:38] Matt Dark: So it starts right then and there.
[64:40] Matt Dark: And so for the listeners, one of the things they can get their head around is, you know, if it tastes good, looks good, It's not good for your GI microbiome, unless you are fascinated by the way broccoli can be baked just right.
[64:52] Matt Dark: But the idea of our GI microbiome balance must be proper.
[64:57] Matt Dark: That balance of good and bad bacteria must be correct to really thrive, to really reach potential.
[65:03] Matt Dark: So that's the number one thing.
[65:04] Matt Dark: Now, what we're finding, Kim, oh, my goodness, I've got an alarm here.
[65:08] Matt Dark: What we're finding, Kim, is the vaccine.
[65:12] Matt Dark: And just because if you took a vaccine, I want to say this to the listener, and this is with pure love coming.
[65:20] Matt Dark: If you took a shot, took a COVID shot, you were misled at a minimum, either out of coercion, whether you did it because you thought it was the right thing to do, you were 100%misled.
[65:30] Matt Dark: And the fact is, is you put one of the most toxic substances ever known to mankind into your body.
[65:38] Matt Dark: And with that said, there's no shame on the way.
[65:41] Matt Dark: Because one of the things that the COVID shot has done is it's caused incredible disruption to our GI microbiome.
[65:51] Matt Dark: So the number one thing that we're doing really is assessing people's quality, gut health quality.
[65:56] Matt Dark: And so whether you didn't have to have a stroke, you didn't have to have a heart attack, you didn't have to have one of these life ending or crippling diseases or outcomes from the vaccines.
[66:06] Matt Dark: You can simply just be underperforming your old self.
[66:10] Matt Dark: Your current self is now a shell of your old self.
[66:13] Matt Dark: And, Kim, what we're finding, and this is the saddest part, this is where I want people to break free, is that there is a level of shame.
[66:21] Matt Dark: Right now, I had three folks just last week alone.
[66:24] Matt Dark: They called saying, I'm suffering from long COVID.
[66:27] Matt Dark: And as they get sort of into the appointment, going through the paperwork, what do we find out?
[66:33] Matt Dark: So if you've been vaccinated, having long COVID symptoms, Let me be very clear.
[66:40] Matt Dark: clear, it is the vaccine that has caused you that ailment, not long COVID.
[66:47] Matt Dark: There's a thousand times the amount.
[66:49] Kim Monson: Well, the question is, you can help people, though, right, that have gotten, so you do the assessment, but you can help them, yes?
[66:58] Matt Dark: So, you come in, and what we're going to do is a couple of things.
[67:01] Matt Dark: Assess that geomicrobiome, that bacteria, lowering inflammation in the body, and then And the number one, the number three thing on that list, folks, is a heavy metals detox.
[67:11] Matt Dark: And you can start all that process at Roots Medical by getting that assessment and then really getting focused.
[67:16] Matt Dark: Even if you're not having life altering results as a result of the COVID vaccines, you still want to get that toxic substance out of you.
[67:26] Matt Dark: Natokinase is something that we're recommending to the vaccine takers, because the body has a hard time breaking down spike protein.
[67:35] Matt Dark: So it's that in conjunction with diet, in conjunction with some kind of heavy metals, detoxification, and you will see light at the end of the tunnel.
[67:41] Matt Dark: Oh, I love that you've got to take that first step.
[67:47] Matt Dark: What I'm trying to get to the listeners is: don't have any shame.
[67:50] Matt Dark: Yes, there's regret, but take power of this poor health.
[67:54] Matt Dark: Whether it was under duress or out of you know.
[67:58] Matt Dark: Let's just get you right, let's get you restored.
[68:00] Matt Dark: And the number one thing, kim, is never, ever take a COVID shot again in your life.
[68:05] Matt Dark: You say no because you have the right to and because it's wrong for your body.
[68:10] Kim Monson: Well, and again, I mean, there's so many people that a variety of reasons.
[68:15] Kim Monson: I mean, and then even now you still hear some of the PBIs say, oh, safe and effective.
[68:24] Kim Monson: But the great thing about it is there is help and you can get it at Roots Medical.
[68:30] Kim Monson: And what's that website, Matt Dark?
[68:41] Matt Dark: Go online and get access, email the store, anything you need.
[68:45] Matt Dark: And then, of course, we've got a regular newsletter that's going to give you the latest in stuff that you can do to take control of your health and really be ahead of what this next phase of healthcare looks like.
[68:55] Matt Dark: But you are in control, folks, because you have the right to say no, and you can pick up the phone any time and say, you know what, I want to get better than I am right now.
[69:05] Kim Monson: And then just very quickly wanted to mention you have started to offer pediatric services.
[69:11] Kim Monson: And what is so important to know about that is we're getting into a time for sports physicals or there's camp physicals, and Roots Medical can do all that for your child, your grand grandchild.
[69:26] Kim Monson: It's important that people know that.
[69:30] Matt Dark: That's an insurance covered service.
[69:32] Matt Dark: If you're needing help with your vaccine schedule for school or exemptions for school or getting cleared for a sports physical, you just it's a free appointment.
[69:42] Matt Dark: Have somebody that you can trust.
[69:43] Matt Dark: And I'm going to tell you right now, Roots Medical is a pediatrics office.
[69:46] Matt Dark: It's about as anti-vaccine as you can find.
[69:49] Matt Dark: And just to put that into context, most pediatric offices in America would go out of business if they didn't offer vaccines.
[69:58] Matt Dark: They make their living on the childhood schedule.
[70:01] Matt Dark: We're 180 degrees away from that.
[70:03] Matt Dark: So pick up the phone or go to the website, rootsmedical.
[70:09] Matt Dark: Get a chance at life and start them off with a good, transparent health care provider.
[70:17] Kim Monson: And again, for any of those sports physicals, camp physicals, Roots Medical can take care of that for you.
[70:24] Kim Monson: And then you've got that great Matt Dark radio show on KLZ 560 as well.
[70:34] Matt Dark: Have a great and kind of gloomy, rainy little day, but enjoy yourself.
[70:39] Kim Monson: And again, that's Matt Dark with Roots Medical.
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[73:06] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[73:10] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force.
[73:13] Kim Monson: Uh, thrilled to have in studio with me.
[73:18] Kim Monson: Uh, giving us the young progressive, progressive um view of things, and so we're going to talk about a few things.
[73:27] Kim Monson: Uh, I kind of blew through that first segment and a couple of things.
[73:32] Kim Monson: First of all, are, are I started a word of the day?
[73:36] Kim Monson: And after we, because we had the bill of the day during the legislative session, And, as Steve says, it's been a little quicksand because Joe, one of our listeners, had sent me a whole list of these great words.
[73:49] Kim Monson: And I've been having some pronunciation challenges.
[73:52] Kim Monson: And so I'm trying to improve upon that.
[73:56] Kim Monson: But our word for the day today is tautology.
[74:01] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Tautology.
[74:02] Kim Monson: Needless repetition of the same sense in different words, redundancy, or an empty or vacuous statement composed of simpler statements in a fashion that makes it logically true whether the simpler, simpler statements are factually true or false.
[74:18] Kim Monson: For example, the statement either it will rain tomorrow or it will not rain tomorrow.
[74:23] Kim Monson: So that was, but this is I decided to use it in a sentence.
[74:29] Kim Monson: The tautology of the mainstream media and PBIs regarding the attack on President Donald Trump is exhausting and counterproductive to the flourishing of everyday, hardworking Americans.
[74:42] Producer Steve: That's clever.
[74:43] Producer Steve: Again, the government is good at this.
[74:45] Producer Steve: That's why we have the Department of Redundancy Department.
[74:47] Kim Monson: Or that would be the Department of Tautology.
[74:52] Producer Steve: Yay.
[74:54] Kim Monson: So the challenge to all of us out there is to use that in a sentence today.
[74:58] Kim Monson: Our quote for the day is from Medal of Honor recipient William Crawford.
[75:08] Kim Monson: And I actually went through the whole thing in the first hour.
[75:12] Kim Monson: So if you want to hear it, you'll need to listen to the rebroadcast one to two.
[75:18] Kim Monson: But I did, the Center for American Values, one of the co- foundersis Drew Dix, who's a Medal of Honor recipient from actions he took in the Vietnam War.
[75:32] Kim Monson: And I said, I'm going to tell William J.
[75:35] Kim Monson: Crawford's story tomorrow, anything you want me to say.
[75:40] Kim Monson: He said, Bill Crawford was one of the nicest people I've ever known.
[75:44] Kim Monson: I never heard him ask for anything, and he never complained because he was grateful for what he had.
[75:50] Kim Monson: And, again, you can get more information about all that the Center for American Values does at AmericanValuesCenter.
[76:00] Kim Monson: But the story, the short story on this, Luke, is that William J.
[76:05] Kim Monson: Crawford basically took out three German machine gun nests almost by himself.
[76:15] Kim Monson: Then he was captured, was in a POW camp.
[76:18] Kim Monson: His colleagues thought that he was dead.
[76:22] Kim Monson: And so he was awarded the Medal of Honor.
[76:26] Kim Monson: They thought posthumously his father received it.
[76:31] Kim Monson: And then he had stayed in in the the army.
[76:40] Kim Monson: But he got a job as a janitor at the Air Force Academy.
[76:44] Kim Monson: And none of the cadets knew that he was this Medal of Honor recipient.
[76:50] Kim Monson: So one of the cadets was reading about some of the battles in World War II, and he's connecting the dots.
[76:59] Kim Monson: He's like, and so he goes down to the janitor at the end of the hall, and he said, Are you William Crawford, the Medal of Honor recipient?
[77:12] Kim Monson: And he said, yes, he said that was a day a long time ago.
[77:15] Kim Monson: And eventually he told him the story of what happened that day and then realized that he'd not received the Medal of Honor from a president.
[77:24] Kim Monson: So when President Reagan was at the Academy in 1984, they arranged for President Reagan to award him the Medal of Honor.
[77:38] Kim Monson: He said, money is nothing if you lose your country.
[77:46] Kim Monson: Luke, I always love to have your perspective.
[77:49] Kim Monson: And I said, what do you want to talk about?
[77:51] Kim Monson: And what is so amazing is that you said, well, anything.
[77:56] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I'm down to talk about anything.
[77:57] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Okay.
[77:59] Kim Monson: And the other day, so Valdemar Archuleta was in with Reggie, and you produced Reggie's show on Friday.
[78:09] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): That was a really good show.
[78:10] Kim Monson: It looked like you guys were having a great time.
[78:13] Kim Monson: And so I had Valdemar on yesterday.
[78:19] Kim Monson: And I was talking to a young person later in the day, and was kind of describing the conversation.
[78:27] Kim Monson: And I said that one of our listeners had said, I don't care whether he texted in, said, I don't care whether Valimar is gay or not.
[78:35] Kim Monson: He is he's, you know, is a reasonable, rational guy.
[78:40] Kim Monson: And this young person challenged me, said that is why Republicans and conservatives have such a problem is because we start with that first sentence on, you know, the identifier.
[78:52] Kim Monson: So I was trying to have this conversation.
[78:54] Kim Monson: And I'm like, I know that you're right from a messaging standpoint out there, but I didn't articulate this to this young person, but there is so much of the LGBTQ agenda that doesn't seem reasoned and rational.
[79:09] Kim Monson: So that's where I think that statement came from.
[79:13] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I like that.
[79:14] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think the young person you were talking to is probably pretty on the nose with it, pretty correct.
[79:21] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I mean, if you go back 60 years, you know, times change and vocabulary changes.
[79:25] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): But one, you couldn't get away with it and you shouldn't get away with it because it's wrong.
[79:30] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): You can't say, well, you know, for a, insert ethnic group here, they're pretty articulate.
[79:34] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): That's not good.
[79:35] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Right, right.
[79:36] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): You are more than the things that you identify yourself with.
[79:40] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And to sort of preface a conversation with that, might have come from a good place, but it leads in a pretty.
[79:46] Kim Monson: I think it came from a very good place.
[79:48] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think it comes from a good place.
[79:49] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think it's something we need to be aware of in terms of messaging.
[79:52] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): You're absolutely right.
[79:53] Kim Monson: Because both of you are really challenging that.
[79:59] Kim Monson: And I look at all of this, and I see so much stuff that's not reasonable out there.
[80:04] Kim Monson: But I think, to your point, to this other young person's point, is we need to be careful of the language.
[80:10] Kim Monson: Because a lot of people would hear that first part versus the second part.
[80:15] Kim Monson: So we just needed to say the second part.
[80:18] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And besides, I think when you're engaging in conversation, you want the conversation to be positive.
[80:23] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): So you should lead with positive words and, you know, speak in a positive manner.
[80:30] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): For example, if I said, you know, well, Kim, you know, for a Republican, you're pretty.
[80:34] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It's like, I guess, you know, if you want to get into, you know, semantics and the nitty gritty of language, that implies my default mindset is all Republicans are bad, which is unfair to the conversation we're having.
[80:47] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Even if it's something you do believe, you know, if someone says, I think Democrats are mostly bad people.
[80:53] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): That's fine.
[80:53] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Well, you engage with someone coming at them from that perspective of I think your position is inherently bad, but you are an exception, starts at a very negative foundation.
[81:03] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Right.
[81:04] Kim Monson: I actually have had people say this to me.
[81:07] Kim Monson: Gosh, as a Republican, I can't believe da- da-da-da-da.
[81:14] Kim Monson: But, you know, you are so wise beyond your years.
[81:18] Kim Monson: If we're going to unite, if we're going to come together to protect our country in this battle of ideas, leading, if you can see something positive, if you can lead with that positive thing, that's going to get us a long way down this conversation, I think.
[81:38] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I mean, something that I've always stood by.
[81:40] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Me and my girlfriend were just having a conversation about this the other day, actually, where you go online, you watch the news, you listen to radio, and you hear a lot of exceptions to the rule.
[81:51] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Or you see the extremes because the extremes are more entertaining.
[81:54] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): If you are a news broadcaster, you're not going to broadcast that everything's fine and actually everything's pretty good and people agree.
[82:00] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): You're going to broadcast the most interesting extremes.
[82:02] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): you're going to show a portion, a percentage of the population that represents these extremes.
[82:08] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): That's not conducive of the whole.
[82:10] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): If you go out on the street, if you talk to your coworkers, your friends, your family, people who have different ideas, everyone, for the most part, are pretty competent.
[82:20] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): They are articulate.
[82:21] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): They believe the things they believe for a good reason.
[82:25] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): But we have this perception of, quote, the other side as these bumbling idiots who don't know what they're doing.
[82:33] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Going back to when you had Valdemar on, you see the LGBT community as these bumbling extremes because that's the most entertaining.
[82:42] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): That's what brings in the most views.
[82:43] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Of course that's what you will always see.
[82:46] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): That's not necessarily conducive of the whole.
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[85:31] Kim Monson: We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues.
[85:37] Kim Monson: through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[85:40] Kim Monson: You shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[85:42] Kim Monson: Excited to have in studio with me producer Luke.
[85:45] Kim Monson: He is a young guy, great perspective on things.
[85:51] Kim Monson: Did you get a senior portrait when you were a senior in high school?
[85:56] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Yeah, yeah.
[85:57] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): My mom took it for me.
[86:02] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Bless her heart, it wasn't great.
[86:04] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I mean, she did her best.
[86:05] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I did my best, but the photo that went out to my family was very embarrassing.
[86:09] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Okay.
[86:10] Kim Monson: So then that's why, you know, having a profession, nothing against your mom.
[86:15] Kim Monson: She's a great lady, but maybe that's not her strength.
[86:18] Kim Monson: So probably what you should have done is gone to a professional like Jansen Photography for that senior portrait.
[86:24] Kim Monson: And now is the time to get those scheduled because actually the school season is right around the corner.
[86:31] Kim Monson: And Jansen Photography is a beautiful property in Lakewood.
[86:35] Kim Monson: They have all kinds of different landscapes.
[86:36] Kim Monson: And it is, and Glenn Jansen, the photographer and owner, and his wife, Mary, they just do beautiful work.
[86:44] Kim Monson: I would just recommend just go to their website just to see the beautiful photos.
[86:50] Kim Monson: But they specialize in senior portraits, family portraits, portraits of children, as well as those business or political pictures that you need, your publicity photos.
[87:01] Kim Monson: So, again, that's jansenphotography.
[87:04] Kim Monson: Okay, so we had Waldemar Archuleta on yesterday.
[87:12] Kim Monson: He is the president of the Log Cabin Republicans of Colorado, which is a gay group, and really had a great conversation.
[87:23] Kim Monson: And one of our listeners, and I would, I mean, this is easy to do.
[87:28] Kim Monson: I don't care whether or not he's gay, but he's, you know, reasoned, reasonable, rational conversation.
[87:34] Kim Monson: And so we kind of unpack that a little bit, because I was talking with a young person yesterday and they challenged me on the first part of that statement.
[87:42] Kim Monson: But how that happens just brings this in hot off the press.
[87:50] Kim Monson: And this is trans activists flaunt bare breasts at White House Pride Month event.
[87:55] Kim Monson: So it has a picture of a woman who has disrobed her top.
[88:03] Kim Monson: She's got her hands over her breasts.
[88:06] Kim Monson: And then the next thing is, is there's a picture of her.
[88:09] Kim Monson: I think she's got her top on at that point with Joe Biden.
[88:13] Kim Monson: And so you can see how we easily can go.
[88:16] Kim Monson: This is I mean, this is wacky over here.
[88:19] Kim Monson: And, of course, the fact that she has a picture taken with Joe Biden, I don't know what else to say about that.
[88:30] Kim Monson: And they're making it all about Pride Month.
[88:34] Kim Monson: And so you can see how we can get into that trap as conservatives when we are trying to, say, give a compliment.
[88:44] Kim Monson: And so what do you think about that, Luke?
[88:47] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think it's profoundly unprofessional.
[88:50] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): You mean taking your top off?
[88:54] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Taking your top off at the White House?
[88:55] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Probably not the best move.
[88:57] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Grant, I think it's a bad decision.
[88:59] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): When we said close to the beginning, I had said providing the progressive perspective, mostly because all of my friends and the group I interact with are primarily progressives.
[89:11] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And you're in your mid- 20s.
[89:12] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): That's the people I surround myself with.
[89:14] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And they like to clarify progressive because liberal means establishment, and establishment's also the issue.
[89:20] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): So they don't like liberal.
[89:21] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): They like progressive.
[89:23] Kim Monson: And I have a listener that says socialist slash communist is another word for progressive.
[89:29] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I'd say they should listen to the last show we were on where we discussed the differences.
[89:33] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): When it comes to this, from my personal perspective, I'm more centrist, not because I'm in the middle of the issues, because I'm on the extreme of both sides.
[89:42] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): When it comes to something like this.
[89:45] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): You know we're talking about, you know, uh val demar, the log cabin, uh, republicans and all that stuff.
[89:50] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I have an interesting perspective when it comes to this: the expression of yourself, you know, be it pride month, whatever, uh, personally not my thing, I'm not huge on it, but being able to express yourself outside of the home is part of free speech.
[90:08] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Right?
[90:08] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I hear a lot of what consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business, and I think that's the start.
[90:15] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): That's good.
[90:17] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): However, we live in America, and you shouldn't have to hide who you are behind closed doors.
[90:23] Kim Monson: But I don't want to know what's going on behind closed doors.
[90:26] Kim Monson: Celebrating our carnal desires versus, I say at the end of the show, striving for high ideals, I mean, just because you can do it doesn't mean you should do it.
[90:39] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Right, and I definitely get the moral implication, but at the same time, freedom of speech is freedom of speech.
[90:43] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Whether it's speech you like or dislike shouldn't matter, right?
[90:46] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And when it comes to something like this, I think regardless, anything that's sexually explicit, you know, for example, this woman here with her top off, anything that is sexually charged shouldn't be available in a space that children can see.
[91:06] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): That's what the real issue is.
[91:08] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Whether it's a strip club or a billboard that shows a woman in lingerie or pride or anything like that, if it's sexually explicit, it shouldn't be in the view space of children or minors.
[91:21] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think that should be regardless.
[91:23] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): But then when it comes to anything consenting adults do, hey, if you're a grown adult and you want to make decisions, make decisions.
[91:30] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): We live in America.
[91:31] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): You should have the freedom to do that.
[91:32] Kim Monson: Okay, so next question then, because I've thought about that.
[91:35] Kim Monson: Because I have very libertarian tendencies on that.
[91:39] Kim Monson: But then what has happened is that people want to make decisions but not be responsible for them.
[91:46] Kim Monson: So to somebody go through the whole trans thing, Pam Long had written this article, it's a million dollars.
[91:53] Kim Monson: And many times government insurance is paying for that.
[91:59] Kim Monson: So government is paying for it means that other taxpayers are paying for it.
[92:03] Kim Monson: that doesn't seem to me like a proper role of government.
[92:07] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I would agree.
[92:08] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): My perspective on it, I have two trans friends, and my opinions on it go back and forth quite a bit.
[92:16] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Are they going through the process?
[92:18] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): One has.
[92:19] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): The other's on hormones.
[92:21] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And my perspective on it...
[92:26] Kim Monson: And did the start before they were 21?
[92:32] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Okay.
[92:32] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): After.
[92:33] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): OK, my perspective on it's a little interesting, I think.
[92:37] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think gender dysphoria is definitely a real thing that exists because it's been documented for a long time.
[92:45] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think the surge we're seeing right now is a fad.
[92:49] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think a lot of it's a trend.
[92:51] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Right.
[92:52] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Which is which is a shame when it comes to, you know, all the surgeries and stuff like this.
[92:57] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): A big pharma wants your money.
[92:58] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Yeah.
[92:59] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Big pharma wants your money real bad.
[93:01] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): So, of course, they're going to do what they can to get your money.
[93:05] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And I think more people need to be aware of that.
[93:08] Kim Monson: Well, and so I think you really nailed it.
[93:14] Kim Monson: Age 21 and older, okay, you can make that decision.
[93:16] Kim Monson: But the problem is there's been this grooming now, starting really at very young ages, and trying to, I think, kind of teach kids.
[93:28] Kim Monson: I mean, little kids, I mean, kindergarten, I remember my kids, I mean, it was just hopefully they were going to learn how to stand in line.
[93:44] Kim Monson: When I had Kwame Spearman on last week, who is running for Denver School Board, he said that black and brown children in Denver public schools only 5% ofblack and brown children by the age of third grade are reading at proficiency.
[93:59] Kim Monson: I had a listener that texted me because we were talking about taxes the other day, that schools need more money.
[94:06] Kim Monson: I tell you what, until you get that figured out, because if kids cannot read and write, then they don't have the tools.
[94:17] Kim Monson: It makes it more difficult for them to be a success in life, Luke.
[94:21] Kim Monson: And so instead of focusing on the sexual component or dividing them into groups by identifiers, we need to get back to focusing on our kids.
[94:37] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Much easier said than done.
[94:39] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I would love if we could get back to focusing on educating children to be successful in the job market.
[94:47] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And I have a lot of opinions about school system because I freshly got out of it.
[94:52] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): You know, I graduated high school in 2016.
[94:54] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): So, you know, young for some people feels like a long time for me.
[94:59] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Yeah, it's young.
[94:59] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Yeah.
[95:01] Kim Monson: Gosh, when Steve was graduated from high school, I think that he went to his graduation party on a horse and wagon.
[95:09] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Yeah, Steve's first vehicle when he parked in the senior lot, if I recall, had a hole cut out of the bottom, and he'd run, you know, Flintstones.
[95:20] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): If I recall, he showed me a picture one time.
[95:23] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): But when it comes to the school stuff.
[95:28] Producer Steve: You're having all this great conversation, and then you stoop to this.
[95:32] Producer Steve: Come on.
[95:33] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Well, I mean, you're easy pickings.
[95:34] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): So, I mean, Kim, I'm going to ask you a question.
[95:38] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): When it comes to school, I think we should definitely focus on educating our children.
[95:41] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): But given the climate of education right now, this is something I've struggled with and have really had to sit down and think about, and I haven't come to an answer yet.
[95:47] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): If schools currently in your biology class, I think for me it was eighth grade, you go in and they teach you about biology, and it was sex ed.
[95:57] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Sex ed on a very biological level.
[96:00] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It was here is the process according to science.
[96:04] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Here are the mechanics of what happens.
[96:06] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Very unsexual.
[96:07] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): decentralized, very just, hey, this is how things work.
[96:10] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): If that's taught, and we had a segment where you had to raise a little flower baby, had an egg head and a sack of flour, and you had to raise it like a child to sort of show you budgeting and stuff like that.
[96:24] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): If that's a thing that exists, presumably teaching sexual education and the raising of a child from a heterosexual perspective, If you cannot remove the straight element, should the gay element be included as well if it's a real thing that exists for the population?
[96:43] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): So that's a good question.
[96:49] Kim Monson: So but the biology of it, the science of it is male and female.
[97:01] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Yeah, that's how the science works.
[97:03] Kim Monson: So I think it's okay if that is taught.
[97:05] Kim Monson: Regarding the other, no, I don't think so.
[97:12] Kim Monson: And I know that there are those that say a gay lifestyle is not a choice.
[97:21] Kim Monson: You know what, I'm not going to comment on that right now.
[97:24] Kim Monson: But, yes, the biology should be taught.
[97:27] Kim Monson: And then Luke, I'm just going to toss this out and then we've got to get to break and we've got alan lakewood, but the whole feminist movement, which was really cultural marxism, um, but you know, women like yeah, I'm gonna work, you know I should have have the freedom to be able to do that, have a career.
[97:46] Kim Monson: But one of the things they said was that, and they were going after patriarchal men.
[97:51] Kim Monson: They said all they want is for women to be baby makers.
[97:54] Kim Monson: Okay, and that was one of the arguments.
[98:00] Kim Monson: Example is jared polis and and his partner.
[98:04] Kim Monson: They are parents and they hired somebody.
[98:07] Kim Monson: My understanding is they hired somebody to be a baby maker and make babies for them.
[98:13] Kim Monson: So have we not gone full circle on that?
[98:15] Kim Monson: I'll let you comment on that and then we'll go to break here just a second.
[98:18] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I Man, that's interesting.
[98:20] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think a lot of it, you know, the whole feminist movement was so prominent back when I was in high school and going through.
[98:26] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And it's interesting to see, conversely, the trans and sort of the extreme of the gay movement sort of circle back and sort of revert all the things that were said.
[98:35] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Just like you said, it's like, you know, women should be, you know, we need to be equal and empowered.
[98:39] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And then men are now in women's sport.
[98:41] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It's very unequal.
[98:44] Kim Monson: It ultimately is canceling our young women.
[98:47] Kim Monson: It's canceling women, which is so frustrating.
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[101:18] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[101:23] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[101:33] Kim Monson: Luke Cashman is in studio with me, and we have Alan in Lakewood on the line.
[101:42] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: Yeah, we're really blessed to have Luke, Steve, and the Kim team on the radio in Colorado.
[101:47] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: I try to explain the HH proposition in a way that most people seem to understand, and that is that the Tabor Law, that the law says that the combination of inflation and population growth is the only amount the taxes can be raised by without giving a refund.
[102:15] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: And otherwise, the tax increase has to go through the vote of the people.
[102:22] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: And I have a word of the day coming up, too, to think about.
[102:26] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: When we point out that that is the limitation on increase, according to the law, And that HH, in fact, says, well, we will give you back a very small fraction of the overage in exchange for giving up your tax refund eventually in the very near future.
[102:53] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: It clicks into place.
[102:56] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: And for renters, and I'm a landlord, that means that rents will have to go up to match the increase in taxes that are above the TABOR number.
[103:10] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: So there's a lot of ways to discuss this just in terms of the difference in the amount of money that people will have to pay, whether they own property or whether they rent or lease property, that makes a very good argument, I have found.
[103:27] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: And the word of the day, perhaps, to consider not too distant future is that Proposition HH is very duplicitous.
[103:40] Kim Monson: I've got to figure out how to spell that first before I can use it, Alan.
[103:52] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: D-U-E-L-I-C-I-T-O-U-S.
[104:02] Kim Monson: And excellent point on that, Alan.
[104:04] Kim Monson: And to, I think, well, first of all, just think about this.
[104:07] Kim Monson: Our renters, young people, many times, Luke, you know, are getting squeezed.
[104:14] Kim Monson: Then you're saying rents will go up.
[104:16] Kim Monson: And then as rents go up, renters will be giving up their TABOR, their Colorado Taxpayers Bill of Rights, refunds.
[104:25] Kim Monson: That seems like that's the dot, how you've connected that, Alan.
[104:29] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: Yes, sir.
[104:30] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: Yes, ma'am.
[104:30] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: Okay.
[104:32] Kim Monson: And Luke Cashman, what do you think about that?
[104:34] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think it's absurd.
[104:36] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I was listening coming in, and I thought of an analogy.
[104:38] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And I don't know how apt it is, because I'm not sure.
[104:41] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I'm trying to wrap my head around it, too.
[104:43] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It sounds like convenience stores raise the price of the candy bar to$ 5.
[104:47] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It was$ 1, now it's$ 5.
[104:49] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): You go, that's absurd.
[104:50] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I don't want to pay$ 5 for a candy bar.
[104:52] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I go, okay, okay.
[104:53] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Well, we'll lower the price to$ 3, but if you hand us a$ 20, we won't give you change.
[104:59] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): So it's like that's a pretty good example.
[105:03] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Uh, it's like great.
[105:04] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): The price is still higher than it was and I'm still losing.
[105:07] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Either way, this doesn't, I think, man, my perspective.
[105:10] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think they should eliminate these poison pills.
[105:14] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I think if you're, if you're going to be passing a law, you're going to be putting something to the legislator single issue.
[105:18] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It shouldn't be well, you get this but y, or you get x but z, especially when it comes to something like this.
[105:26] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Those should be separate issues.
[105:27] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): They shouldn't be able to get away with this.
[105:29] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Because the thing is, too, say it doesn't pass, we lose, and you want to propose a new one, it's going to take time to get that through.
[105:36] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And let's say that one's equally as bad.
[105:38] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): So you shoot that one down, and then they propose a third one, and it's equally as bad, because they can just keep getting away with it.
[105:44] Kim Monson: I think, and Alan is still on the line, and good point, Luke.
[105:48] Kim Monson: I think that this is a tremendous opportunity, Alan, for us to have conversations to really unveil government and how big it is and that it wants to get bigger.
[105:59] Kim Monson: Because when government gets big, the individual gets small.
[106:02] Kim Monson: Alan, we've got probably about a minute.
[106:08] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: I love you.
[106:10] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: You're always bringing up points like that.
[106:14] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: And Luke is right on track.
[106:15] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: I enjoy the show so much and the people that you have.
[106:19] Caller - Alan from Lakewood: I was in Texas over this weekend and I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that I can no longer afford to live in Colorado.
[106:28] Kim Monson: It's bad it is, but that's why we do all this is to engage in this battle of ideas.
[106:36] Kim Monson: Alan and Lakewood, thank you so much, Luke.
[106:39] Kim Monson: We've got just a little bit of time left.
[106:41] Kim Monson: How would you like to wrap this up?
[106:43] Kim Monson: It's so fun to have you in studio.
[106:44] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I'm always happy to be back and I'm glad that You know people like my perspective.
[106:49] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It's, you know, I don't often get a platform.
[106:51] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): When I'm on other shows, I kind of just, you know, shoot the breeze and have a good time.
[106:55] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): But, you know, being able to actually engage in conversation is really good, and it's nice.
[106:59] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): And he's absolutely right.
[107:00] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It's too expensive to live in Colorado.
[107:01] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Me and my girlfriend are struggling with that right now.
[107:03] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): We both need to make a lot of money in order for it to be viable.
[107:06] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It's unfortunate.
[107:07] Kim Monson: So what we need to do is to lower taxes, lower rules and regulations.
[107:12] Kim Monson: I had been doing some research, and the National Home Builders Association says that at least 25% ofthe cost of a new home is because of rules and regulations, and 40% of thecost of multifamily dwellings, and that's from the multifamily board or whatever.
[107:31] Kim Monson: And so we need to reduce rules and regulations, and then we need to reduce taxes, and that's what we need to work towards.
[107:40] Kim Monson: So I feel we have this great opportunity because people are paying attention right now.
[107:45] Kim Monson: Life is pretty good, and people don't realize what is happening right under our noses.
[107:50] Kim Monson: And I talk about the Medal of Honor recipients because we're doing these quotes.
[107:55] Kim Monson: And they received the Medal of Honor because when the situation was there, they took action.
[108:03] Kim Monson: And that action, they saved lives.
[108:05] Kim Monson: And that is why they received the Medal of Honor.
[108:09] Kim Monson: And so each of us need to equip ourselves through this battle of ideas, which is what we work to do here, and then engage, take action.
[108:16] Kim Monson: And so that's our marching orders for the day here, Luke Cashman.
[108:21] Kim Monson: And again, it's just always so great to have you in studio.
[108:25] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I'm happy to come back and talk about literally anything.
[108:28] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I know.
[108:28] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I've got a lot of opinions.
[108:30] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Well, yeah, and you are so informed.
[108:32] Kim Monson: And I think also probably producing so many of these shows, which you do such a great job.
[108:36] Kim Monson: You get such an interesting perspective from all these different guests, yes?
[108:40] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): Yeah, I hear a lot from the show.
[108:41] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I hear a lot from the station.
[108:42] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I hear a lot from my friends.
[108:43] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): I hear a lot from my own experience.
[108:44] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It's a good melting pot of ideas.
[108:46] Luke Cashman (Luke Cashman): It is.
[108:47] Kim Monson: And so, again, that is Luke Cashman.
[108:49] Kim Monson: It's always great to have you here.
[108:50] Kim Monson: Our quote for the end of the show, and you had mentioned freedom of speech, and that is a bedrock of America.
[109:00] Kim Monson: He said, freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government.
[109:02] Kim Monson: When the support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved and tyranny is erected on its ruins.
[109:10] Kim Monson: So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate endlessly well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[109:22] Kim Monson: God bless you and God bless America.
[109:34] Music/Outro Voice: We will fight for the right To live in freedom.
[109:43] Music/Outro Voice: Yeah, you're talking about freedom.
[109:49] Music/Outro Voice: You're talking about freedom.
[109:51] Music/Outro Voice: We will fight for the right To live in freedom.
[110:00] Music/Outro Voice: We'll be right back.
[110:05] Music/Outro Voice: be right back.