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[03:14] Kim Monson: We are an independent voice on an independent station, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[03:24] Kim Monson: socialism is not about free stuff that is the carrot that gets people to vote for it but ultimately socialism has to come down to force because as maggie thatcher said eventually with socialism you run out of other people's money and then it comes down to force to get that money and it's not compassionate and it's not altruistic to take other people's stuff whether or not it's their rights their property freedom livelihood opportunity childhood or lives via force and force can be a weapon
[03:53] Kim Monson: But it can also be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fees, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, legislation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and globalist elites.
[04:07] Kim Monson: And the tools that they use are United Nations, but it trickles all the way to municipalities and school districts as well.
[04:16] Kim Monson: You should not have to use force to implement it.
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[04:35] Kim Monson: And in fact, Susan Harris will be our featured guest in our number two.
[04:40] Kim Monson: She's since moved to Arizona and we are going to talk a little bit about elections in Arizona.
[04:54] Kim Monson: And I want to say thank you to Dave for the suggestion of,
[04:59] Kim Monson: And reproach could be to find fault with a person or group.
[05:08] Kim Monson: Number two, to criticize severely, upbraid.
[05:11] Kim Monson: Number three, to be a cause of blame or discredit.
[05:15] Kim Monson: Number four, to blame or censure conveyed or disapproval.
[05:19] Kim Monson: Number five, an expression of contempt.
[05:25] Kim Monson: And number seven, an object of scorn or contempt.
[05:30] Kim Monson: And these definitions come from the Random House Webster's College Dictionary.
[05:36] Kim Monson: Our quote of the day, I went to Jordan Peterson.
[05:41] Kim Monson: So many young people quote him on a regular basis.
[05:45] Kim Monson: And I thought, well, I'd like to take a look at some of his quotes.
[05:52] Kim Monson: He is a Canadian psychologist, author, and media commentator.
[05:55] Kim Monson: He received widespread attention in the late 2010s for his view on cultural and political issues.
[06:02] Kim Monson: He's often described as a conservative.
[06:04] Kim Monson: However, he self-identifies as a classical liberal and traditionalist, which I think I probably would identify with that as well.
[06:15] Kim Monson: But he said this, he said, don't underestimate the power of vision and direction.
[06:20] Kim Monson: These are irresistible forces able to transform what might appear to be unconquerable obstacles into traversable pathways and expanding opportunities.
[06:39] Kim Monson: Choose your destination and articulate your being.
[06:50] Kim Monson: what you want to do, and you focus on that, he said that basically the world will step aside and you can accomplish your goals.
[07:00] Kim Monson: What I've learned though is sometimes what I think is my goals is not what the good Lord has in mind for me.
[07:06] Kim Monson: But what I do know is every day getting up, working, being curious, learning, the doors that are supposed to open will open for you.
[07:15] Kim Monson: And so every day you've got to focus on that.
[07:18] Kim Monson: And again, that quote is from Jordan Peterson.
[07:23] Kim Monson: Our bill of the day is Senate Bill 26-178, and you can weigh in on this.
[07:32] Kim Monson: We posted six bills today, a cut in gauge.
[07:35] Kim Monson: So you go to coloradotaxpayer.org, and we have them in chronological order.
[07:40] Kim Monson: So the most recent six are at the top.
[07:43] Kim Monson: And you can make your voice heard with the –
[07:46] Kim Monson: prime sponsors of the bill, as well as you can include your state senator and your state representative.
[07:55] Kim Monson: This particular one, Senate Bill 26-178, health insurance affordable measures.
[08:01] Kim Monson: I don't know about you, but health insurance is not affordable.
[08:06] Kim Monson: And the reason is, is because of Obamacare.
[08:09] Kim Monson: And they said it was going to be they called it the Affordability Act.
[08:16] Kim Monson: There's nothing affordable at all about Obamacare.
[08:19] Kim Monson: In fact, just take a look at your premiums.
[08:23] Kim Monson: But anytime government gets involved, as Dr. Joe Vecchio has said, the price goes up.
[08:30] Kim Monson: the quality goes down, and the supply becomes limited.
[08:34] Kim Monson: And so with this health insurance affordability measures, this is, I think, a step towards trying to move Colorado to socialized medicine.
[08:45] Kim Monson: And the sponsors on this are all Democrats, Senator Kyle Mullica, Senator Iman Jodeh, Representative Kyle Brown, and Representative Lindsay Gilchrist.
[08:57] Kim Monson: And this is the Colorado Union of Taxpayers' position on it after careful analysis.
[09:06] Kim Monson: It says the bill authorizes the Colorado Health Insurance Affordability Enterprise.
[09:13] Kim Monson: And again, enterprise means that all of this revenue, everything that happens here, is that is outside of the TABOR caps.
[09:22] Kim Monson: Colorado and Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights that moves all of that money out of calculating the revenue for the state of Colorado, moves that out of that calculation for you to receive your TABOR refunds.
[09:42] Kim Monson: And so anytime you see enterprise, that is what's happening.
[09:48] Kim Monson: The bill authorizes the Colorado Health Insurance Affordability Enterprise to impose a one-time supplemental fee of $40 million allocated equally a month.
[10:00] Kim Monson: among health insurance companies that meet specified criteria.
[10:04] Kim Monson: It authorizes a $100 million loan from the unclaimed property trust fund loan.
[10:11] Kim Monson: Do you really think they're thinking that they'll pay that back?
[10:14] Kim Monson: To the enterprise's cash fund and allows tax credits for contributions to the enterprise cash fund.
[10:21] Kim Monson: Again, what's wrong with that, that you can have tax credits to contribute to this enterprise?
[10:28] Kim Monson: CUT opposes this bill because it expands powers and funding of an unelected enterprise all outside of Tabor.
[10:35] Kim Monson: This $40 million one-time fee will drive up costs for all private insurance ratepayers and establish a dangerous precedent for one-time, we have that in air quotes, fees and income from the unclaimed property trust fund outside of Tabor restrictions.
[10:51] Kim Monson: The safety clause prevents voters from their right to repeal this egregious bill.
[10:57] Kim Monson: And so cut is a hard no on this particular bill.
[11:04] Kim Monson: And when you see them out there, be sure and say thank you to my fellow volunteers, all my other volunteers.
[11:29] Kim Monson: And that way you will be informed about what's happening down at the state house.
[11:33] Kim Monson: But when you see these folks out there, say thank you to them.
[11:36] Kim Monson: And that is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Janssen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard.
[11:48] Kim Monson: And again, go to coloradotaxpayer.org and join us.
[11:52] Kim Monson: Next thing, Ginny and I need to do, so my to-do list today is I have to make my voice heard on Cut Engaged.
[12:01] Kim Monson: And then the deadlines are coming up regarding, first of all, the commercial fur sales that is moving through the bureaucratic Colorado Parks and Wildlife.
[12:15] Kim Monson: And you need to make your voice heard on that by the 3rd, which that's this weekend.
[12:21] Kim Monson: And so the website for that, where you can find that is, you can go to engagecpw.org forward slash commercial dash fur dash sales.
[12:36] Kim Monson: And so make your voice heard on that.
[12:38] Kim Monson: And then also make your voice heard regarding the wolf issue.
[12:44] Kim Monson: And you can go to the federalregister.gov and just put in Colorado wolves and you should be able to pull that up.
[12:59] Kim Monson: web address, but just put in Federal Register Colorado Wolves and you should be able to make your voice heard on that as well.
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[16:44] Kim Monson: On the line with me is former state senator and author of the Lundberg Report, Kevin Lundberg.
[16:55] Kim Monson: Well, it's good to have you as well.
[16:57] Kim Monson: And before we jump into some of these issues, next week is the Protect Kids Colorado celebration.
[17:08] Kevin Lundberg: We are working hard on making this an extraordinary event.
[17:18] Kevin Lundberg: It was thousands of people who helped us collect the signatures to put these three initiatives that we've been working on on the ballot.
[17:29] Kevin Lundberg: And we encourage people, particularly if you were involved in any way with the effort to put these issues on the ballot, I urge you to go.
[17:44] Kevin Lundberg: And if you're just wanting to jump on board today and help us on the next stage,
[17:48] Kevin Lundberg: which is the biggest one, which is to get the word out to every voter in Colorado that these issues are on the ballot, are important, and should be adopted.
[17:59] Kevin Lundberg: If you go to my website and click on my newsletter, I've got a big, bold graphic on the front end of the newsletter talking about it, and just click on that and you'll get the information.
[18:13] Kevin Lundberg: We're not charging for admission, but we're encouraging people to help
[18:17] Kevin Lundberg: help us defray the costs of it, and to help launch everything we're doing between now and the election in the fall.
[18:27] Kevin Lundberg: I'm just so thrilled with all of the energy and the excitement that I've seen all across the state on these important matters that deal with children and how the transgender ideology is just infiltrated in so many ways.
[18:44] Kevin Lundberg: Honestly, this will get us back to what I think we'll be talking about for the most part.
[18:48] Kevin Lundberg: Our state legislature has been going the exact opposite direction for several years, and they continue.
[18:55] Kevin Lundberg: Last night, House Bill 1322 was passed by a Senate committee, and this one is in direct defiance of what the United States Supreme Court struck down a couple of weeks ago.
[19:09] Kevin Lundberg: I mean, it's just madness what's happening down at the Capitol.
[19:13] Kevin Lundberg: But it's the exact opposite at our event next week on the 7th.
[19:21] Kevin Lundberg: It's in the Larkspur area, which is kind of halfway between Colorado Springs and Denver, because they're both very important hubs for our effort for what we've been doing this year.
[19:33] Kim Monson: So, Kevin, and again, that's next Thursday.
[19:38] Kim Monson: You can go to Protect Kids Colorado, that website, or to Kevin Lundberg's website.
[19:45] Kevin Lundberg: If you go to our PKC website, go to the events page, click on May 7th.
[19:56] Kim Monson: Now, Colorado Union of Taxpayers has taken a position on this bill that you just mentioned.
[20:04] Kim Monson: But for people that may not know about this bill, let's see, it's 1322, right?
[20:09] Kim Monson: And I do want to give a shout out to Gammy.
[20:15] Kim Monson: and testifying on so many different bills.
[20:17] Kim Monson: And she has just really been a warrior on this and appreciate it.
[20:20] Kim Monson: But this 1322 is very, very dangerous.
[20:25] Kim Monson: So what's your concerns about this, Kevin Lundberg?
[20:28] Kevin Lundberg: Well, this is on the heels of the bill that passed several years ago.
[20:35] Kevin Lundberg: Banning any mental health counselor, licensed mental health counselor in Colorado from doing anything but affirming
[20:48] Kevin Lundberg: In other words, you can't talk to the child and say, well, let's work this out and see if this really makes sense.
[20:56] Kevin Lundberg: Now, the left, they want to call that conversion therapy, which is just a misnomer entirely.
[21:04] Kevin Lundberg: Anyway, it goes all the way through the courts and the Supreme Court votes eight to one against that law that says, no, you can't control
[21:14] Kevin Lundberg: You can't tell a mental health worker what they can't talk about when they're dealing with their patients.
[21:29] Kevin Lundberg: So the legislature comes up with a bright idea of, okay, if we can't outright ban it, we'll just make it so difficult for
[21:38] Kevin Lundberg: we'll kind of make it an open season on anybody who participates in what they call conversion therapy to lawsuits for the rest of their lives.
[21:49] Kevin Lundberg: And that's not just the licensed counselor, but that's the company they may be working for.
[21:55] Kevin Lundberg: That could be the parents who brought their child to the counselor.
[22:00] Kevin Lundberg: This just opens it up in such a way and makes it another unconstitutional law, which
[22:07] Kevin Lundberg: Big surprise, every time the legislature dives into any of these subjects, the Supreme Court ends up throwing out, not the state Supreme Court, because they affirm all this nonsense.
[22:19] Kevin Lundberg: But unfortunately, there are cooler heads at the top right now.
[22:25] Kevin Lundberg: And yet, it's such a clear picture of what we've been seeing in just about every aspect of our lives.
[22:38] Kevin Lundberg: Again, they're just gnawing away at our Second Amendment rights.
[22:46] Kevin Lundberg: Property rights, taxes, just overall regulations, wholesale buying into the climate extremists so as to grind the state of Colorado down to a
[23:05] Kevin Lundberg: I mean, I was in the legislature for 16 years and I saw a lot of, a lot of funny things happening, but nothing like I've seen in the last now eight sessions.
[23:19] Kim Monson: And they've, we've lurched so far to the left, but, and I really do not think that these people are representing the, the big, broad,
[23:35] Kim Monson: I'm so concerned about elections on this.
[23:40] Kim Monson: But they act like they will never lose another election from what I can see.
[23:46] Kevin Lundberg: Well, that's another huge issue is just how are these elections conducted?
[23:51] Kevin Lundberg: I've been focusing in on that subject for months now in my newsletter.
[23:57] Kevin Lundberg: This last newsletter, I think I've got eight links that
[24:01] Kevin Lundberg: that I direct people to, you know, want more evidence that we've got problems in our elections?
[24:10] Kevin Lundberg: Yeah, there is sort of this assumed entitlement that the legislature and the governor has that whatever we do, we will get away with.
[24:24] Kevin Lundberg: Let me go back to our celebration just a little bit for Protect Kids Colorado.
[24:29] Kevin Lundberg: I think those are related because we went after one of the most obvious, most egregious set of policies that the legislature has established over the last eight years.
[24:51] Kevin Lundberg: But this, I hope, first and foremost, we stop these policies.
[25:00] Kevin Lundberg: practices of allowing men and women sports and child mutilating surgeries and giving sex traffickers of minors almost a free pass, not entirely.
[25:12] Kevin Lundberg: I mean, it's illegal, but far too often the bad guy is put up back on the streets.
[25:18] Kevin Lundberg: So we're trying to shake the population in Colorado and say, look at what's been happening to our laws and to our state.
[25:27] Kevin Lundberg: I just finished, my wife and I, we drove out to Connecticut and back for a wedding, and it took us about two and a half weeks, and we stopped and talked to various friends and family, you know, all the way between, we went through 18 states and 4,700 miles, and every time we got around to talking about Colorado, people just shake their heads in disbelief, and it's just, what has happened to this state that used to be such a,
[26:01] Kevin Lundberg: And now it's just turned into an economic mess, a social embarrassment, a legal morass.
[26:17] Kevin Lundberg: And that's what we've gotten out of the folks that are under the gold dome.
[26:21] Kevin Lundberg: And they are proving it again this year with the way they just lockstep vote for the worst things.
[26:27] Kevin Lundberg: You know, go back to that newsletter I put together.
[26:33] Kevin Lundberg: And this is just a snapshot of the worst and what I consider the best.
[26:41] Kevin Lundberg: And the worst bills, well, occasionally one will get killed.
[26:49] Kevin Lundberg: I think 90% or so are still either law now or on the fast track to getting into law.
[26:58] Kevin Lundberg: It's overwhelming to me, and you get to the end of the session that we have right now, we've only got a little more than a week to go, and they are turning this session into just as bad a session as ever.
[27:16] Kevin Lundberg: And I can just go on and on and on, but I know we'll probably have a break here pretty soon, won't we?
[27:21] Kim Monson: So one quick question is, I went on and looked at the Colorado State Legislature, the official website, and it said that the last day of the legislative session was May 13th.
[27:35] Kim Monson: But I spoke with Gammy, and she said that she thought the last...
[27:42] Kim Monson: Could you clarify what is the last day of this session, Kevin?
[27:47] Kevin Lundberg: Well, you know, I'm going to have to go look at this up myself because I was thinking the 13th as well.
[27:52] Kevin Lundberg: But then I was talking to one of our state legislators yesterday and he said, well, we've got eight actual scheduled days to go.
[28:07] Diarization artifact (single 'Yeah' at 28:07): Yeah.
[28:08] Kevin Lundberg: I just wonder if everybody's got to miss their mark on this.
[28:22] Kim Monson: Let's go to break, Kevin Lundberg, because we've got a lot to talk about.
[28:26] Kim Monson: We're talking with former state senator Kevin Lundberg, and he's also the author of the Lundberg Report.
[28:32] Kim Monson: I would recommend that you have that on your repertoire of things to check out each week.
[28:39] Kim Monson: And then also, of course, CUT, Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[28:44] Kim Monson: Liberty Scorecard, Sue Moore and her group, they do a really terrific job as well.
[28:50] Kim Monson: And then you might add in Drew Dix and Brad Padula's podcast.
[28:55] Kim Monson: podcast from the Center for American Values.
[29:00] Kim Monson: And just a great perspective on things as well.
[29:03] Kim Monson: You can get information on that by going to their website, which is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org.
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[32:04] Kim Monson: We're talking with former state senator Kevin Lundberg.
[32:07] Kim Monson: He is also the author of the Lundberg Report.
[32:10] Kim Monson: And you alluded to this, Kevin Lundberg, but Colorado's economy is, well, you've titled it Colorado's broken economy.
[32:22] Kim Monson: And this is because of public policy.
[32:24] Kim Monson: It's important that people understand that.
[32:27] Kim Monson: And this governor and this radical legislature, these Democrats are not the Democrats of JFK or your grandpa or your grandma.
[32:35] Kim Monson: JFK actually recommended to reduce taxes.
[32:42] Kim Monson: This legislature, I feel like they are taking Coloradans, holding them upside down, and trying to shake out every last dime in our pocket, Kevin Lemberg.
[32:51] Kevin Lundberg: Yeah, you know, again, what they've been doing this year really underscores that.
[33:00] Kevin Lundberg: The first year I went into the legislature, back in 2003,
[33:08] Kevin Lundberg: The economy was slowing down because it does go through cycles.
[33:13] Kevin Lundberg: And what I saw the legislature do, I was not too pleased with because they would take money from every cash fund they could and do everything to manipulate the budget so they could continue to pay for things.
[33:27] Kevin Lundberg: Well, they're doing that this year as well, but there's no recession nationally.
[33:34] Kevin Lundberg: Here in Colorado, though, I'm seeing some real strong warning signs.
[33:39] Kevin Lundberg: One thing that kind of surprised me when I ran across it last week was the office vacancy rate in downtown Denver and the Denver metro area in general.
[33:52] Kevin Lundberg: Now, there are some other factors when it comes to vacancy rates for offices because a lot of people work at home.
[34:04] Kevin Lundberg: It's like 35, 36% of the office space is not being occupied.
[34:15] Kevin Lundberg: And here's another factor that I kind of developed when I was down in the legislature, because I'd drive down to the Capitol every day.
[34:27] Kevin Lundberg: And so I'd go through a lot of traffic, and I would notice that when traffic was really heavy,
[34:33] Kevin Lundberg: Man, the economy was booming, and the economic reports would come out that way.
[34:39] Kevin Lundberg: But then when things started to slow down, long before the economists came and gave us the bad news that, you know, things are slowing down, tax revenues are drifting down, and we've got some problems here, blah, blah, blah.
[34:53] Kevin Lundberg: I noticed that the traffic was just really light, and I could get down to the capital in, like,
[35:01] Kevin Lundberg: you know, 20 minutes sooner than, than what I was expecting.
[35:04] Kevin Lundberg: Well, last week I drove not, not to the Capitol, but I drove down to Denver and what I was expecting to be an hour and 20 minutes was less than an hour.
[35:16] Kevin Lundberg: And I thought, once again, I think the economy is falling flat and it just lines up with the vacancy rate.
[35:23] Kevin Lundberg: And it lines up with the other economic factor that, that I reported on in my newsletter, which is, uh,
[35:31] Kevin Lundberg: uh new government or new private uh business startups and it listed all 50 states now this was a little bit in retrospect because they don't have that data in real time but i think it was from either 2024 or 2025 and colorado was at the bottom 49 states ahead of us on people want willing to start new businesses
[35:57] Kevin Lundberg: And that paints the same picture that I learned that I talked about earlier.
[36:02] Kevin Lundberg: We're traveling around the country talking to friends, many of whom used to live in Colorado, and they're just going to shake their heads in disbelief and say, I wish it was better.
[36:16] Kevin Lundberg: This is why we're doing what we're doing with Protect Kids Colorado, is to change that.
[36:20] Kevin Lundberg: Because I believe Colorado is a wonderful state to live in with
[36:26] Kevin Lundberg: Fantastic people who have good, basic conservative values, but our government is not following the lead.
[36:38] Kevin Lundberg: You know, mark my word, in next quarterly report for economics, we'll show Colorado is drifting downward or dropping off a cliff, one of the two.
[36:55] Kevin Lundberg: while much of the country is actually doing very, very well.
[37:01] Kim Monson: So, Kevin, let's talk about, because of this, this is something that will get people's attention.
[37:09] Kim Monson: And this election that is coming up is very, very important.
[37:19] Kim Monson: Now, yesterday we had Joe Oltmann on the line who is running for state GOP chair.
[37:27] Kim Monson: Jeremy Goodall will be on the show in the second hour.
[37:30] Kim Monson: He's also running for state GOP chair.
[37:33] Kim Monson: When I asked Joe Oltmann when the election was for the new state GOP chair, he said he thinks it's at the end of May.
[37:48] Kim Monson: We probably have some different races that we don't even have candidates.
[37:54] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on all this, Kevin Lumber?
[38:02] Kevin Lundberg: The state party has been in significant disarray, but I don't see the same thing.
[38:13] Kevin Lundberg: And I've got a little bit of history in this one, because I've counted it up as about 10 elections that I was a candidate in.
[38:24] Kevin Lundberg: And I discovered pretty quickly that the state party's influence on actual
[38:30] Kevin Lundberg: And for me, it was mostly a couple of statewide things I ran for unsuccessfully.
[38:36] Kevin Lundberg: But in the state legislative arena, I was very successful.
[38:43] Kevin Lundberg: And I found that the state party didn't have much influence one way or the other on my race.
[38:50] Kevin Lundberg: And that's what I tell candidates today is, yeah, the state party is trying to figure its way out of a really complicated mixed-up mess.
[39:00] Kevin Lundberg: But focus in on your county party system, because most of those are good and healthy.
[39:08] Kevin Lundberg: I live in Larimer County, and I'm on the executive board for the county GOP.
[39:14] Kevin Lundberg: And I can tell you that we've got a great team that have been aggressively moving in so many ways.
[39:22] Kevin Lundberg: And we're the ones that really can really support and help campaigns.
[39:30] Kevin Lundberg: So I'm not nearly as concerned with how it's impacting the election directly, except just by inference.
[39:39] Kevin Lundberg: People kind of think, oh, they've got some problems.
[39:41] Kevin Lundberg: Now, I'll tell you one other thing, and that is that we still do have a mechanism working, and I'm hopeful that it's working a little bit better now.
[39:52] Kevin Lundberg: The vice chairman of the party, Eric Grossman is his name, I've had some conversations with him in the last week or so because
[40:00] Kevin Lundberg: I'm the chairman of the Lawson Committee challenging the open primary system, which we actually have some opportunities on right now.
[40:12] Kevin Lundberg: But Eric Grossman is very actively involved as the acting chairman right now.
[40:18] Kevin Lundberg: So it's not like we're, you know, rudderless, but we are in a change.
[40:24] Kevin Lundberg: And we've gone through, the biggest job of the state party is to hold the assembly, the state assembly, which we're past now.
[40:32] Kevin Lundberg: And yeah, it was kind of rough waters doing that, but they came through with the candidates now.
[40:38] Kevin Lundberg: And now I actually think that things will be moving along fairly well because the state party has an important role to play, but it's not nearly as...
[40:54] Kevin Lundberg: essential for individual campaigns, as people may think.
[41:02] Kevin Lundberg: But candidly, I found that I was usually best off if I just kind of ignored what they did and ran my campaign and worked with the local county parties.
[41:18] Kim Monson: And let's go to break because when we come back, we're going to break a little bit early.
[41:22] Kim Monson: In your Lundberg report, you mentioned a very dangerous bill that's, I guess, it's a law here in Colorado that the Supreme Court has accepted regarding transgenderism for preschoolers.
[41:42] Kim Monson: And I don't think I even was aware of that one, Kevin Lundberg.
[41:46] Kim Monson: So let's have a discussion about that.
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[45:28] Kim Monson: Kevin Lundberg, here in Colorado, very expensive, but we have government programs for pre-K now and kindergarten, obviously, the education system.
[45:46] Kim Monson: And I've always thought that this was...
[45:50] Kim Monson: was dangerous because in essence, this agenda that we continue to talk about here in Colorado, they are getting their hands on our children at earlier and earlier ages.
[46:02] Kim Monson: And families, they're getting squeezed with this economy, taxes, fees.
[46:09] Kim Monson: And so it's welcome if they have some help regarding preschool.
[46:17] Kim Monson: And so anyway, there's this Supreme Court case that the Supreme Court's going to hear this case regarding government run pre-K.
[46:29] Kim Monson: So walk us through this, Kevin Lundberg.
[46:31] Kevin Lundberg: OK, let me correct one thing a little bit that you said, and that is government run preschool programs.
[46:39] Kevin Lundberg: And it is kind of a complicated thing because it's not a specific this law or a bill that passed that set all this up.
[46:47] Kevin Lundberg: It's just a whole cascade of the state has established, the legislature, I should say, and the governor have established a policy that supposedly protects anybody who has an obligation
[47:06] Kevin Lundberg: a gender identity or sexual orientation, those are the words they use, to not discriminate against anybody who's transsexual or LGBTQ, et cetera, blah, blah, blah.
[47:22] Kevin Lundberg: Anyway, they also set up universal preschool programs.
[47:26] Kevin Lundberg: Now, the preschool programs are actually administered, thankfully, largely through private entities.
[47:33] Kevin Lundberg: And so what it is is this preschool applies to the state to say, will you grant, will you give us the support so we can admit people who can't afford to pay for our program, essentially.
[47:48] Kevin Lundberg: And so the state funds the preschool of private organizations.
[47:54] Kim Monson (one-line diarization artifact): Okay, thanks for that clarification.
[48:03] Kevin Lundberg: And they were being required by the state to sign a non-discrimination agreement in order to enroll in the state's universal preschool program.
[48:16] Kevin Lundberg: And the agreement requires that preschool providers cannot enroll or deny families based on sexual orientation, religious affiliation, income, race, disability, or gender identity.
[48:32] Kevin Lundberg: Because the state has established this policy that, you know, if you've got a preschool child and the parent says, well, little Johnny is really Susie now, then, you know, the preschool program has to go along with that.
[48:48] Kevin Lundberg: Just like the mental health counselors have to go along with accepting any gender dysphoria as being normal, natural, and you can't even talk to the child about something other than that.
[49:02] Kevin Lundberg: And so, you know, this Catholic parish says, hey, we've got a preschool program.
[49:08] Kevin Lundberg: Colorado's got a universal preschool system, but we can't participate because they're going to force us into a box that we consider to be morally wrong.
[49:20] Kevin Lundberg: And that's what's being challenged now at the Supreme Court level.
[49:26] Kevin Lundberg: And that's a really complicated step or process to get there, by the way.
[49:31] Kevin Lundberg: So it's not like you just call them up and they say, sure.
[49:34] Kevin Lundberg: No, you've got to go through all the pre-court steps or the lower courts, the inferior courts, through the system until you get to the Supreme Court.
[49:45] Kevin Lundberg: And then they don't accept too many things, but they accepted this one, even as they have accepted several other issues in these areas that they beat back in Colorado.
[50:01] Kevin Lundberg: It has a terrible record when laws are challenged at the Supreme Court level because the Supreme Court says, no, that's unconstitutional, this is unconstitutional.
[50:11] Kevin Lundberg: Even as the bill I talked to about earlier, 1422, dealing with, again, the transgender issue, that one's unconstitutional and it'll be challenged eventually too.
[50:27] Kevin Lundberg: This is the one that's up against the court at this point.
[50:34] Kevin Lundberg: And I expect that the court will, they'll probably hear the case next, in the fall of this year, and we probably won't see a decision for another 12 months or so now, from now.
[50:49] Kevin Lundberg: But eventually, once again, the court will most probably
[50:55] Kevin Lundberg: even as they did with the mental health counselor issue, vote almost unanimously that Colorado got it wrong.
[51:08] Kevin Lundberg: They are forcing people to accept or to speak in terms that disagree.
[51:15] Kevin Lundberg: It's not just who you let in, but it's how you conduct your program.
[51:20] Kevin Lundberg: And this is where it impacts preschoolers most directly.
[51:24] Kevin Lundberg: That is, if you buy into this ideology of transgenderism for children, then you inevitably end up teaching these preschoolers all about these issues, you know, and causing them to question their own identity.
[51:45] Kevin Lundberg: You know, when they start talking about pronouns, they say, well, how are we going to address little Johnny here?
[51:54] Kevin Lundberg: And this is, you know, this used to be considered lunatic language.
[52:02] Kevin Lundberg: But today, this is the normal stuff that the state of Colorado is forcing on everybody.
[52:07] Kevin Lundberg: And this one Catholic parish said, we've had enough of this.
[52:13] Kevin Lundberg: And, you know, fortunately, the Supreme Court has now eventually picked it up and said, OK, well, we'll look at this.
[52:20] Kim Monson: Well, Kevin Lundberg, this is all connected.
[52:24] Kim Monson: And with Protect Kids Colorado and the three ballot questions that, because of all these great volunteers, will be on our November ballot.
[52:34] Kim Monson: There is a lot of people that don't, I don't think that they know what is happening in our schools with our young people.
[52:42] Kim Monson: And I have mentioned this when I went to caucus yesterday.
[52:45] Kim Monson: This year, it was at one of the local high schools.
[52:49] Kim Monson: And the classroom that I was in, there was no American flag.
[52:54] Kim Monson: But on the wall, it was probably at least four feet wide.
[53:01] Kim Monson: And that was a pride flag with the word A-L-L-Y blazoned across that.
[53:09] Kim Monson: And so I'm like, what does this mean?
[53:12] Kim Monson: The A-L-L-Y stands for kids that are straight, that are allies of those that are, you know, adhere to the LGBTQ pride flag.
[53:29] Kim Monson: And this is in a high school that people think that this is in a conservative county.
[53:36] Kim Monson: And I have on my list of things to do.
[53:38] Kim Monson: I haven't quite decided how to address this yet, but I am going to address that.
[53:43] Kim Monson: But what this is, is kids have this pressure.
[53:47] Kim Monson: On a consistent basis, every day they go to school now that they're getting their hands on, well, through funding on our little kids pre-K.
[53:58] Kim Monson: This agenda is just being thrown at our children day after day after day.
[54:03] Kim Monson: And then with this particular 1322, it basically ties parents' hands to find anybody that can help them
[54:14] Kim Monson: and their children work through this issue.
[54:16] Kim Monson: It's a very dark thing that's happening here in Colorado.
[54:22] Kevin Lundberg: And, you know, yesterday in, in the, the Senate committee hearing for 1322 proved at one, once again, straight party line vote to, to support this nonsense.
[54:35] Kevin Lundberg: And, and let me throw one more thing at you because of a,
[54:40] Kevin Lundberg: One of the important components in this is how the schools react to all this stuff.
[54:48] Kevin Lundberg: I mean, go back and look at the film I helped put together, well, did put together, Art Club, where we dig deep into this and, you know, it's everywhere.
[55:00] Kevin Lundberg: And we highlighted two families, the Lee family here in Colorado, but we spent a few minutes on another family, and that's the Little John family down in Florida.
[55:11] Kevin Lundberg: which was our example of saying, look, it is everywhere, and we've reinforced with some other things.
[55:18] Kevin Lundberg: Well, there have been four court cases brought before the Supreme Court, starting with the Lee family, that the court has had the opportunity to look into this and answer the question, should schools be allowed to do this indoctrination behind the backs of parents?
[55:41] Kevin Lundberg: This week we received word that the fourth case was rejected and that was the Little John case.
[55:50] Kevin Lundberg: They rejected the Lee case and there were two others and the court refused to hear this one either.
[55:55] Kevin Lundberg: And we knew that they were right on the edge of accepting the Lee case.
[55:59] Kevin Lundberg: But I've talked about how the Supreme Court is doing the right things most of the time, but they have dodged this issue again.
[56:10] Kevin Lundberg: And I'm not aware of any other cases that are moving through the system.
[56:17] Kevin Lundberg: But we've got a lot of work to do still to get this fixed.
[56:22] Kevin Lundberg: And if you're a parent with a public school student, I can almost guarantee that your child is being indoctrinated every day they walk into that class in that school.
[56:35] Kim Monson: When you have that flag every day and kids go in, they see it.
[56:41] Kim Monson: Kevin Lundberg, we are out of time.
[56:45] Kim Monson: We'll figure out when the legislative session actually is really over, but it's soon.
[56:51] Kevin Lundberg: I'm almost certain that it would be the 13th, but why people are saying it's next week, I'm not sure, because they started late.
[56:59] Kevin Lundberg: They didn't start until around the 13th in January, and it's 128 days.
[57:05] Kevin Lundberg: It's kind of an easy math situation that kind of wraps up on pretty much the same day.
[57:11] Kevin Lundberg: You know, a leap year kind of messes up once every four years.
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[61:26] Kim Monson: We'll talk with Susan Harris here in the segments two and three in this hour.
[61:31] Kim Monson: So it should be quite interesting regarding elections, election integrity, and things that are happening down in
[61:46] Kim Monson: He had actually had suggested rapprochement, but I just shortened it down to reproach.
[61:53] Kim Monson: There are seven different definitions.
[61:55] Kim Monson: One is to find fault with a person or group.
[61:58] Kim Monson: Two, to criticize severely, upbraid.
[62:00] Kim Monson: Three, to be a cause of blame or discredit.
[62:03] Kim Monson: Four, to blame or censure, conveyed disapproval.
[62:07] Kim Monson: Number five, an expression of contempt.
[62:11] Kim Monson: Number seven, an object of scorn or contempt.
[62:15] Kim Monson: And reproach is spelled R-E-P-R-O-A-C-H.
[62:19] Kim Monson: These definitions are from the Random House Webster's College Dictionary.
[62:24] Kim Monson: Our quote of the day is Jordan Peterson, born in 1962.
[62:27] Kim Monson: He's a Canadian psychologist, author, and media commentator.
[62:33] Kim Monson: He received widespread attention in the late 2010s for his views on cultural and political issues.
[62:38] Kim Monson: He's often described as a conservative.
[62:40] Kim Monson: However, he self-identifies as a classical liberal and traditionalist, which I think that's how I self-identify as well.
[62:47] Kim Monson: But he said this, he said, don't underestimate the power of vision and direction.
[62:51] Kim Monson: These are irresistible forces able to transform what might appear to be unconquerable obstacles into traversable pathways and expanding opportunities.
[63:05] Kim Monson: Take care with yourself and define who you are.
[63:10] Kim Monson: Choose your destination and articulate your being.
[63:16] Kim Monson: Our bill of the day is Senate Bill 26178, Health Insurance Affordability Measures, which that means it's going to get more expensive.
[63:24] Kim Monson: And it's probably a move to try to move us to socialized health care here in Colorado.
[63:28] Kim Monson: The sponsors on this are all Democrats, Senator Kyle Mullica, Senator Iman Jodeh, Representative Kyle Brown, Representative Lindsay Gilchrist.
[63:38] Kim Monson: This is CUT's position on this particular bill, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, says this bill authorizes the Colorado Health Insurance Affordability Enterprise to impose a one-time supplemental fee of $40 million allocated equally among health insurance companies that meet specified criteria.
[63:55] Kim Monson: It authorizes a $100 million loan from the unclaimed property tax fund to the enterprise's cash fund and allows tax credits for contributions to the enterprise cash fund.
[64:05] Kim Monson: CUT opposes this bill because it expands powers and funding of an unelected enterprise, which is all outside of TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights.
[64:14] Kim Monson: The $40 million one-time fee will drive up costs for all private insurance rate payers and establishes a dangerous precedent for one-time fees
[64:23] Kim Monson: from the unclaimed property tax fund outside of taper restrictions.
[64:27] Kim Monson: The safety clause prevents voters from their right to repeal this egregious bill.
[64:33] Kim Monson: And taking this unclaimed property, these funds, this is people's responsibility.
[64:45] Kim Monson: their property and they're rating this for this particular bill.
[64:49] Kim Monson: There's another bill that they're doing.
[64:51] Kim Monson: So this is just, it's, it's actually, this is theft.
[64:58] Kim Monson: And we need to unelect these people that are doing that.
[65:02] Kim Monson: And that's why we shed light on all of these issues every weekday.
[65:06] Kim Monson: And it happens because of our sponsors.
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[65:15] Jon Boesen: So glad we got those folks looking out for affordability for us.
[65:25] Kim Monson: And there's actually some other bills that are rating this unclaimed property tax fund as well.
[65:33] Kim Monson: And we actually have some Republicans that have their name on that particular bill.
[65:37] Kim Monson: It's like, keep your names off those bills, my friends.
[65:43] Kim Monson: and how important it is that you call the police if you have been involved in an accident.
[65:53] Jon Boesen: Well, you know, a lot of these conversations that we have, Kim, revolve or are instigated by calls I have with actual prospective new clients.
[66:03] Jon Boesen: And again, last week, I have to have these conversations with folks because I
[66:10] Jon Boesen: You know, one of the things we ask people when they call in, they've been involved in a motor vehicle accident, were the police called?
[66:16] Jon Boesen: And when I hear no, I immediately kind of cringe because I know there's a strong likelihood that the insurance company that is insuring the at-fault driver, the driver that caused the accident, is going to say they're not accepting responsibility, they're not accepting liability.
[66:39] Jon Boesen: because there was no determination of fault made by the police.
[66:45] Jon Boesen: And their insured is now changing their story, disputing that they were responsible for the accident.
[66:57] Jon Boesen: And then the other issue is sometimes the insured or the at-fault driver is
[67:04] Jon Boesen: doesn't report the accident, and then refuses to talk with the insurance company, their own insurance company.
[67:11] Jon Boesen: So that insurance company is going to always deny liability.
[67:16] Jon Boesen: Doesn't happen if the police are called and allowed to make a determination of fault.
[67:26] Jon Boesen: The at-fault driver's story can change.
[67:29] Jon Boesen: The insurance company, they can't get away with
[67:32] Jon Boesen: denying responsibility for the insured or the at-fault driver.
[67:36] Jon Boesen: So call the police if you're involved in an accident.
[67:42] Jon Boesen: Turn that good heart off for just the 20, 30 seconds it takes to call the police to get out there.
[67:49] Jon Boesen: And I really shouldn't put it that way.
[67:52] Jon Boesen: Because folks, I mean, folks want to be, okay, you don't need to get a ticket.
[67:58] Jon Boesen: I understand that, but it doesn't work.
[68:01] Jon Boesen: People, you know, they'll do things.
[68:07] Jon Boesen: If you're involved in an accident, call the police.
[68:10] Jon Boesen: Let them determine that it was the other driver's fault.
[68:13] Jon Boesen: And you won't have to deal with fighting the insurance company on liability or your attorney fighting that battle for you.
[68:23] Kim Monson: Okay, a few years ago, I was at a stoplight and somebody ran into the back of my car.
[68:31] Kim Monson: And he had State Farm Insurance, which they were wonderful to work with.
[68:36] Kim Monson: He was wonderful to work with as well.
[68:40] Kim Monson: And we actually pulled out of traffic.
[68:45] Kim Monson: And my adrenaline certainly was really flowing fast.
[68:53] Kim Monson: We exchanged insurance information.
[68:56] Kim Monson: I took a picture of his driver's license as well.
[68:59] Kim Monson: We called the police, but after 45 minutes, they had not arrived yet.
[69:05] Kim Monson: And we agreed that we had places to go.
[69:16] Kim Monson: after 45 minutes, we felt we needed to go along our way.
[69:21] Jon Boesen: I would say if the gentleman is, or a lady is going to be forthright about accepting responsibility, say, you know, I really appreciate that.
[69:31] Jon Boesen: Just write out for me a statement and sign it and date it that you are accepting responsibility for this accident.
[69:40] Jon Boesen: I've heard stories of people waiting four hours and that, you know, it, it,
[69:45] Jon Boesen: If you don't have any injuries, I think that is acceptable.
[69:52] Jon Boesen: The other alternative is to videotape if you've got a smartphone with you, the other individual accepting responsibility, no equivocation, just accepting that they were at fault for the accident.
[70:05] Jon Boesen: And if they don't want to do either of those two things, then you better wait.
[70:14] Jon Boesen: And you better get the police out there because that person has just indicated that they're one of those folks.
[70:20] Kim Monson: And if people have been involved in an accident, social security, disability, any of these things, workman's comp, you and your team handle all of those things.
[70:30] Kim Monson: What's the best way for people to reach you?
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[70:44] Kim Monson: And again, that's Jon Boesen, Boesen Law, 303-999-9999.
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[74:10] Kim Monson: And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
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[74:17] Kim Monson: And also check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation.
[74:20] Kim Monson: They are hosting their big fundraiser, a golf tournament, May 14th out at the Ridge at Castle Pines.
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[74:36] Kim Monson: Pleased to have on the line with me, Susan Harris.
[74:39] Kim Monson: And I do thank the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show as well.
[74:48] Kim Monson: And you have moved to Arizona, Colorado, this Colorado that we both love.
[74:55] Kim Monson: Susan Harris is it's it's a dark spot right now.
[74:59] Kim Monson: We talked with Kevin Lundberg in the first hour that Colorado is at the bottom of new private job creation or business creation.
[75:11] Kim Monson: And the cities become dirty and dangerous.
[75:14] Kim Monson: And so there's a lot happening in this Colorado that we love.
[75:21] Kim Monson: And Arizona's in the news right now regarding some things on elections.
[75:27] Kim Monson: And I came across this from PBS News regarding a judge's ruling about the top election official in Maricopa County.
[75:36] Kim Monson: And Maricopa County is the most populous county in Arizona.
[75:40] Kim Monson: So I know you've been watching election stuff in Arizona.
[75:44] Kim Monson: What's your take on this, Susan Harris?
[75:48] Susan Harris: Well, I think what the court has said is basically the Board of Supervisors for the Maricopa County, which is the Board of Supervisors basically runs the county.
[76:02] Susan Harris: It's kind of like a city council for a city.
[76:04] Susan Harris: Well, we have the Board of Supervisors for the county.
[76:07] Susan Harris: And in the past, the recorder and the board of supervisors, they share some election functions, but for the most part, the law requires that the county recorder is responsible for most of what goes on in an election.
[76:29] Susan Harris: But what's interesting, and I think I better give some background information on this because
[76:37] Susan Harris: From 1985 to 2019, so for over 30 years, there was what's called the Shared Services Agreement between the Board of Supervisors and the county recorder.
[76:52] Susan Harris: And basically, the recorder pretty much ran the elections on behalf of the county.
[77:01] Susan Harris: And the Board of Supervisors was available for very specific things.
[77:07] Susan Harris: and also to support the county recorder should anything arise that he or she would want support regarding.
[77:15] Susan Harris: But in, funny, in 2019, which I think is very interesting, the recorder, whose name was Adrian Fontes, and the supervisory board signed a new SSA that agreed to split election duties
[77:35] Susan Harris: And so the recorder from that point on was going to handle early voting.
[77:39] Susan Harris: And then the board was going to take over all the in-person voting and tabulation.
[77:45] Susan Harris: Now, if you think about that, that is quite a shift in responsibilities.
[77:51] Susan Harris: And it happened in 2019 where they made this decision.
[77:55] Susan Harris: Now, interesting, 2019, the 2020 election in Maricopa County has been highly contested.
[78:03] Susan Harris: And I just find that very interesting that for 30 years, they ran elections one way.
[78:08] Susan Harris: And then for the 2020 election, all of a sudden, a new agreement was struck, and they decided to run them a different way, giving the Board of Supervisors a lot more power.
[78:23] Susan Harris: And for the elections from 2019 all the way and through 2023,
[78:31] Susan Harris: The recorder managed early voting, and the board was responsible for overseeing in-person voting and tabulation.
[78:38] Susan Harris: Now, what happened after the horrific 2020 situation, there was an election for a new county recorder, and surprise, surprise, the county recorder that was
[78:58] Susan Harris: And there was a landslide vote against this guy, and we brought in a new person.
[79:03] Susan Harris: And the former recorder was Stephen Richter, or Richter, I'm not sure how you say his name, but the new recorder was Recorder Heap, and I'm sorry, I can't remember his first name now.
[79:28] Susan Harris: The lame duck recorder made a new agreement with the Board of Supervisors and behind closed doors transferred almost all election powers to the Supervisor Board.
[79:46] Susan Harris: They transferred pretty much all of the election duties
[79:53] Susan Harris: They reassigned all the personnel, reassigned all the IT responsibilities and staff, shifted all the funding, just rerouted all the public records relating to the elections, made that all the responsibility of the Board of Supervisors.
[80:13] Susan Harris: So now the incoming clerk who was just elected in a landslide was stripped of all his powers
[80:21] Susan Harris: before he got there by the incumbent and the sitting board of supervisors.
[80:26] Susan Harris: So that's kind of to set the stage of what we're talking about regarding this case.
[80:33] Susan Harris: So Recorder Heap came in and discovered that this had happened and proceeded to try to remedy the situation because legally he has responsibilities under the law, but
[80:48] Susan Harris: administratively, he wasn't going to be able to do any of those or fulfill any of those responsibilities because all the power had been stripped away.
[81:00] Susan Harris: So he got with the attorneys, the state attorneys, and just said, is there anything I can do?
[81:07] Susan Harris: And they said that actually any agreements that were signed before he was elected, he didn't have to fulfill.
[81:18] Susan Harris: He wrote a letter to the board and said, I'm not going to agree to this new SSA that was done before I got in office.
[81:25] Susan Harris: We need to, we need to come up with a new one.
[81:29] Susan Harris: And his proposal was basically to reinstate the former SSA that was there before he got there and before he got elected.
[81:41] Susan Harris: So not even going all the way back to the previous
[81:46] Susan Harris: um, SSA, which gave him pretty much full power, um, to run the elections or, or maybe it did give him a lot more than, than the previous one, but I don't think it even gave him all the power that he had before.
[82:01] Susan Harris: Um, so that's the background of what happened, Kim.
[82:06] Susan Harris: And it's very unusual and, you know, just reeks of infighting amongst these, um,
[82:16] Susan Harris: political bureaucrats, even though they are elected, I feel like they're bureaucrats because something is going on that's nefarious and it doesn't make any sense.
[82:30] Kim Monson: So what has happened now, yes, go ahead.
[82:33] Kim Monson: So is the Board of Supervisors, are they Republican, Democrat, a combination?
[82:38] Kim Monson: These are all Republicans, all these people, Republicans.
[82:48] Susan Harris: There are five members of the Board of Supervisors, and I'm not sure if they are 100% Republican.
[82:54] Susan Harris: But Stephen Richer or Ricker was Republican, and Recorder Heap is Republican.
[83:04] Susan Harris: And I know the woman who is in charge of the Board of Supervisors is Republican.
[83:17] Susan Harris: And to me, the fact that all of this started back in 2019, where they started ripping away the power from the recorder and pushing it to the Board of Supervisors, to me, that's a big red flag in and of itself.
[83:38] Susan Harris: The Board of Supervisors basically did not respond.
[83:44] Susan Harris: agreement on how the elections were going to be run, no new shared services agreement or an SSA was put in place.
[83:54] Susan Harris: And it's still not in place because the board of supervisors would not cooperate and, and negotiate with him.
[84:07] Susan Harris: Um, and you know, it's just so interesting.
[84:13] Susan Harris: And they've said you have to give him back his personnel.
[84:18] Susan Harris: You have to give him back his IT people and systems, all the equipment.
[84:26] Susan Harris: You can't override state law and use the budget money as leverage to take control of election duties.
[84:36] Susan Harris: And the board is fighting this tooth and nail.
[84:40] Susan Harris: They are going to probably, they've asked for a stay.
[84:44] Susan Harris: on the judge's decision, and they'll probably appeal, and here we are up against an election right now, a primary.
[84:52] Susan Harris: I did receive in the mail my 90-day notice that there's an upcoming election, so someone's doing their job still, thank goodness, but yeah, and honestly, I don't know what's
[85:09] Susan Harris: you know, politically, I don't understand personally, it sounds like there's a lot of personal animosity going on and just a power struggle.
[85:18] Susan Harris: And I don't really have inside scoop or any knowledge about that, but it, you know, it's just very, very strange.
[85:34] Kim Monson: that our elections are not being run properly.
[85:39] Kim Monson: Well, and if we don't have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections, then we don't have America.
[85:44] Kim Monson: So we're going to continue the discussion with Susan Harris.
[85:47] Kim Monson: And I do thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show.
[85:50] Kim Monson: And also wanted to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo.
[85:57] Kim Monson: Check out, I mentioned this earlier, check out Drew Dix and Brad Padula's podcast, Words from the Silo.
[86:04] Kim Monson: They've completed the first season.
[86:06] Kim Monson: They're going to be working on the second season here soon.
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[89:23] Kim Monson: On the line with me is Susan Harris.
[89:25] Kim Monson: We're talking about the elections in Arizona.
[89:28] Kim Monson: And these elections really matter because Governor Hobbs has really been, I would say, ruling Arizona to the hard left.
[89:39] Kim Monson: Is that too strong a statement, Susan Harris?
[89:46] Susan Harris: And, you know, our elections, ever since the Board of Supervisors took over more of the power behind running elections,
[89:58] Susan Harris: Our elections have been more and more contested regarding their integrity.
[90:02] Susan Harris: When Governor Hobbs won the election, oh my gosh, literally people would go to the polls and machines were down and wouldn't read the ballots.
[90:17] Susan Harris: And the curious thing about that was they only went down in areas where conservatives tended to vote.
[90:34] Susan Harris: We had all these poll watchers set up because we tried to circumvent the ballot box stuffing problem that occurred in 2020.
[90:45] Susan Harris: And so they just came up with a new plan to somehow have the machines malfunction.
[90:55] Susan Harris: that somehow they didn't service the machines properly before the election.
[91:03] Susan Harris: Well, if the Board of Supervisors is running that, then who is responsible for not having the machines serviced and brought up to speed so that they ran properly on election day?
[91:15] Susan Harris: You know, it's just a constant barrage of nefarious activities
[91:22] Susan Harris: to make us all question whether or not our elections are run in a fair and proper manner.
[91:28] Susan Harris: And now the board of supervisors, the woman who's in charge of that committee, you know, she's gone on local news stations and said how they would be happy to work with Recorder Heat to make sure that the elections run smoothly.
[91:51] Susan Harris: And, you know, it's so interesting because they refused to negotiate a new shared services agreement.
[91:59] Susan Harris: And, you know, but in public, the face they're putting on it is that they are cooperating and that he is the problem.
[92:07] Susan Harris: Whereas if you go back and look at the history of what happened, the power of the recorder has been slowly ripped away.
[92:15] Susan Harris: And all Recorder Heap wants to do is restore his original record.
[92:21] Susan Harris: you know, government, legislative required powers so that he can do his job.
[92:32] Susan Harris: The fact that most of these people are Republicans, if not all of them, again, just makes you question what is really going on behind the scenes.
[92:44] Kim Monson: We have the same situation, well, I would say we have a similar situation in Colorado because, and I don't quite know what to call it exactly, but people that, I would say it's many of the consultants that have run the Republican Party, the Republican Narrative,
[93:10] Kim Monson: They loathe the grassroots, the everyday people, and they've had control.
[93:17] Kim Monson: I think it's really somewhat of a uniparty.
[93:20] Kim Monson: And it sounds to me like in a way that's what's happening in Arizona as well, is that the uniparty Republicans and Democrats work together.
[93:31] Kim Monson: And what has happened is we have radical activists that have been elected and
[93:40] Kim Monson: I understand the whole money thing.
[93:45] Kim Monson: But we're at a totally different place now with that.
[93:49] Kim Monson: And that is that here in Colorado, the radical activists...
[93:57] Kim Monson: We now have abortion up until the time of birth.
[94:01] Kim Monson: We have this radical activist transgenderism that is basically mutilating our children here in Colorado.
[94:09] Kim Monson: And so it's no longer about playing footsie with the other uniparty and, you know, greasing palms here or there.
[94:16] Kim Monson: This is now, these are issues that are hurting people.
[94:20] Kim Monson: And we've got to take a stand against this Susan Harris.
[94:24] Susan Harris: I agree, and I think it's very important for people in Colorado and Arizona to understand how important your local elections are.
[94:35] Susan Harris: The people that are on the Board of Supervisors, they are elected.
[94:40] Susan Harris: Unfortunately, at this right now, I feel like they're more likely appointed, like they are handpicked.
[94:50] Susan Harris: to run for election and nobody knows anything about these people.
[94:54] Susan Harris: And so they get, if they're on the ballot, they pretty much get elected.
[94:58] Susan Harris: You know, instead of a true vetting process where people who are voting for these very local officials actually know what's going on and know who they're voting into office.
[95:24] Susan Harris: You know, people don't do a lot of voting in these small local elections.
[95:30] Susan Harris: And it's very difficult to help people understand that the local elections might at this point be even more important than the national ones.
[95:41] Susan Harris: They definitely are at least as important because we're being,
[95:47] Susan Harris: Overwhelmed from the top down with issues, but now we're being overwhelmed from the bottom up.
[95:54] Susan Harris: And I think these activists know that and then that that is their mode of operation.
[96:02] Susan Harris: And we have to meet them where they are and fight back.
[96:07] Kim Monson: Well, and to that, your assessment is absolutely correct that, for example, my city is having an election for new city council people in May.
[96:20] Kim Monson: People may not be paying attention now.
[96:24] Kim Monson: They do send out the mail-out ballots, so people should all have received a ballot.
[96:30] Kim Monson: But I had one of those, and this is the first time in a number of years that we've had contested races.
[96:37] Kim Monson: So for my particular area, there's three candidates, and I'd run into one of the candidates' caucus, and he reached out and wanted to have coffee.
[96:46] Kim Monson: Actually, I've met with all three candidates now, and they all are really, I think, great people and could be great representatives.
[96:58] Kim Monson: reach out to the other candidates as well and have coffee and understand why they're running.
[97:06] Kim Monson: And then also the issue that I am going to take on is transparency of our local government.
[97:13] Kim Monson: And I asked all three of them about that, and they said that they would be certainly in favor of that.
[97:18] Kim Monson: And so whoever gets elected, I will interface with them.
[97:21] Kim Monson: But I would suggest that all of us reach out to our local government
[97:26] Kim Monson: elected representatives and have coffee with them.
[97:32] Kim Monson: And to your point, we need to engage at this local level.
[97:35] Kim Monson: So that's great advice, Susan Harris.
[97:39] Kim Monson: How would you like to button this up, Susan?
[97:43] Susan Harris: Well, I just, again, would like to encourage people.
[97:47] Susan Harris: I know it's hard to take time out of your day to deal with some of these political issues.
[97:54] Susan Harris: You think that other people will handle it and it's just not true.
[97:59] Susan Harris: Every one of us has a responsibility to get involved and really try to make a difference.
[98:07] Susan Harris: That would be my message to people, especially all you grandparents out there.
[98:16] Susan Harris: I feel like we kind of got ourselves in this quagmire and it's up to us to try to work our way out of it if we can.
[98:24] Susan Harris: Our kids are all working really hard and trying to raise their families.
[98:27] Susan Harris: So let's support them by, you know, getting our governments back on track or getting them on track.
[98:35] Susan Harris: I don't know if they were ever on track, but let's get them on track.
[98:40] Susan Harris: Let's spend our money wisely, just like we would if it was our own money.
[98:47] Susan Harris: And the reason I live in Arizona is because Colorado left me.
[98:54] Susan Harris: And now I'm in Arizona and I'm seeing the same thing happening.
[98:57] Susan Harris: And just as your guest earlier in the last hour said, this is everywhere.
[99:04] Susan Harris: Colorado is, you know, it's down the road a ways further than we are.
[99:11] Susan Harris: We all need to wake up and push back on these situations.
[99:17] Kim Monson: You need to protect Arizona, and we will do that.
[99:20] Kim Monson: Susan Harris, as always, it's great to speak with you.
[99:22] Kim Monson: We'll talk with you next month, and have a great day.
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[102:15] Kim Monson: Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
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[102:22] Kim Monson: And the Colorado State GOP has a vacancy as the chair after Britta Horn stepped down.
[102:31] Kim Monson: And Jeremy Goodall is throwing his hat in the ring to become the next Colorado State GOP chairman.
[102:38] Kim Monson: Jeremy Goodall, welcome to the show.
[102:46] Kim Monson: Also, you are on the board of Protect Kids Colorado.
[102:49] Kim Monson: And we had Kevin Lundberg on earlier in the show.
[102:53] Kim Monson: And congratulations to you and the whole team on getting those ballot questions on the ballot.
[103:06] Jeremy Goodall: You know, 3,500 ticked off moms, dads, grandmas, grandmas, grandmas, grandparents.
[103:14] Jeremy Goodall: And it's just been a huge, it's just been a huge upswelling.
[103:20] Jeremy Goodall: People want to protect kids and the Democrats want to mess them up and confuse them and make us have a parade to celebrate that confusion.
[103:34] Kim Monson: So congratulations on all that great work with Protect Kids Colorado.
[103:39] Kim Monson: You are throwing your hat in the ring for state GOP chair.
[103:44] Kim Monson: Well, tell us a little bit more about you and then why you are doing that.
[103:49] Jeremy Goodall: Well, so I've been involved politically here in Colorado since.
[103:53] Jeremy Goodall: Well, I've been a precinct leader in El Paso County since 2006.
[103:55] Jeremy Goodall: I've been involved at the state level of the GOP since 2010.
[104:02] Jeremy Goodall: And I have had front row seats for every controversy, argument, misstep, success and failure of the state GOP basically between now and then.
[104:18] Jeremy Goodall: And so I believe that I understand how we got into this mess.
[104:23] Jeremy Goodall: And I believe I have the vision and values to get us out of this mess.
[104:30] Kim Monson: And it is a bit of a mess right now.
[104:34] Kim Monson: Um, and this, so tell us about how this, uh, this chair is selected and when do you anticipate this is going to happen?
[104:44] Jeremy Goodall: Well, we actually have gotten word that, uh, that the vice chair, uh, so we actually just had a, we actually just had the vice chair reelected, um, due to a, uh, uh, Mr., uh,
[105:01] Jeremy Goodall: Effectively, the previous chair, Britta Horn, just ran off volunteers, other officers.
[105:12] Jeremy Goodall: And so we did actually just reelect Mr. Eric Grossman, or elected Mr. Eric Grossman as the vice chair.
[105:20] Jeremy Goodall: And according to our bylaws, the vice chair is actually in charge of calling the election meeting for the chair.
[105:28] Jeremy Goodall: And so he has actually just announced that that will be actually occurring May 30th.
[105:34] Jeremy Goodall: And then that is an election from the state central committee.
[105:37] Jeremy Goodall: And so that's all of the county officers, elected officials, and bonus members from the larger counties.
[105:44] Jeremy Goodall: And then we'll have a big meeting and they will, they will elect just as the previous chair was elected by the same body back in March of last year.
[105:54] Jeremy Goodall: This will be occurring from the state central committee.
[105:58] Jeremy Goodall: roughly 500 of the top Republicans across the state.
[106:05] Kim Monson: Jeremy Goodall, I hear from so many people that they're concerned about the divisiveness in Colorado, the divisiveness in the Colorado Republican Party.
[106:27] Jeremy Goodall: like always to basically deal with churches that were in the midst of significant, let's politely say dysfunction.
[106:35] Jeremy Goodall: And what you have generally in these types of situations is a pattern of toxic behavior.
[106:43] Jeremy Goodall: And so what you have to do is address that toxicity.
[106:50] Jeremy Goodall: That's why I'm basically, my whole motto for this campaign is vision over vendetta.
[106:57] Jeremy Goodall: Because right now, when when Republicans are infighting amongst ourselves, we're doing the Democrats job for them.
[107:05] Jeremy Goodall: And what we need to do is actually protect our vision, protect our values and protect our platform.
[107:11] Jeremy Goodall: And we need to basically remember what it is that we are as Republicans so that we can then communicate that to the broader population and be attractive to them rather than them seeing just a huge amount of, you know, catfighting.
[107:28] Kim Monson: Well, and there seems to be a lot of that, which is not a good look whatsoever.
[107:33] Kim Monson: What do you think about how to appeal to the unaffiliated voters?
[107:40] Kim Monson: Because I think at least 50% of Coloradans are now registered as unaffiliated.
[107:47] Jeremy Goodall: Well, I think the unaffiliated is kind of a red herring.
[107:52] Jeremy Goodall: Because what's happened is the Democrats in charge of our state
[107:58] Jeremy Goodall: have effectively disincentivized participation in party affiliation.
[108:05] Jeremy Goodall: Effectively, individuals, they get two ballots, especially for people that are not terribly involved, they get two ballots in the primary, and that doubles their voice, effectively.
[108:17] Jeremy Goodall: And so people are like, oh, well, then I'll just be unaffiliated.
[108:19] Jeremy Goodall: Well, the problem with that is that unaffiliated are not Republicans.
[108:28] Jeremy Goodall: You're choosing to not be or not choosing choosing not to be Democrat.
[108:33] Jeremy Goodall: And so by being involved in the party, you know, getting involved in like the caucus and the assembly process, this is actually where your voice is actually most magnified as as someone who has been involved in the caucus.
[108:56] Jeremy Goodall: the individuals at the precinct level to connect and interact with fellow Republicans and see other party members, I guess, but in my case, Republicans.
[109:09] Jeremy Goodall: And it allows you to build those relationships to kind of get your face seen and to become part of a very connected body.
[109:19] Jeremy Goodall: And when we get connected, that's where we get connected.
[109:24] Jeremy Goodall: And that's, you know, one guy standing alone is kind of vulnerable.
[109:29] Jeremy Goodall: But when you have two or three people standing together, then, well, we know what the Bible says about that.
[109:35] Jeremy Goodall: And when we get large groups of us getting together, you know, it becomes it becomes almost an army.
[109:41] Jeremy Goodall: And that's that's what we have to do is understand how to stand together on our vision, our values and our platform and stand together with a with a united voice saying that we are Republicans.
[109:56] Jeremy Goodall: People don't just stand in the center based on nuanced understanding of issues and careful consideration.
[110:07] Jeremy Goodall: They're in the middle because they don't think it matters.
[110:29] Jeremy Goodall: I think the open primary has been an absolute disaster for the Republican Party.
[110:34] Jeremy Goodall: Since the implementation of that, we have not won a single statewide race.
[110:51] Jeremy Goodall: Like, you know, we'll bring in the unaffiliated and we'll bring in the stuff.
[110:54] Jeremy Goodall: It's like, no, it's, it's like a kind of, kind of like falling back to your ex.
[111:01] Jeremy Goodall: You know, like nobody, nobody, nobody finds that attractive.
[111:07] Jeremy Goodall: It displays a lack of conviction and people are not convinced by that.
[111:12] Jeremy Goodall: And so the open primary, I actually stood up at the state convention and assembly.
[111:19] Jeremy Goodall: put forward a motion to actually compel our legal, the GOP legal team to actually pursue an injunction to actually achieve a closed primary for this cycle.
[111:36] Jeremy Goodall: And that was overwhelmingly supported to the point where they overruled the RNC parliamentarian who had come in to run the meeting on Brita's behalf.
[111:46] Kim Monson: OK, so, Jeremy, we've got just about 30 seconds left.
[111:49] Kim Monson: How can people get more information about you, Jeremy Goodall?
[111:55] Jeremy Goodall: Well, if you're on the state central committee, you'll be getting my emails and probably phone calls.
[112:03] Jeremy Goodall: And so we don't really we're not going for like a big, broad, you know, Web site and all of that.
[112:09] Jeremy Goodall: But if they want to reach out to me, my phone number and I get texts all the time is seven one nine.
[112:19] Kim Monson: Jeremy Goodall, thank you so much and wish you best of luck.
[112:25] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is Jordan Peterson.
[112:27] Kim Monson: He said, can you imagine yourself in 10 years if instead of avoiding the things you know you should do, you actually did them every single day?
[112:36] Kim Monson: So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[112:48] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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