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[01:27] Kim Monson: Rick turnquist, our favorite oklahoman, now is in studio.
[01:33] Rick Turnquist: A nice little weekend visit back to the back to the native state.
[01:37] Rick Turnquist: And, uh, nice to be able to be in studio with you today.
[01:40] Kim Monson: You've written a really excellent piece.
[01:45] Kim Monson: I would so highly recommend people check that out.
[01:48] Kim Monson: And the graphic that zach has come up with.
[01:50] Kim Monson: Once again he's knocked it out of the park.
[01:53] Rick Turnquist: I don't even think about suggesting one because I know he'll.
[01:55] Rick Turnquist: He'll come up with something way better than I could have.
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[02:29] Kim Monson: As we look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do that.
[02:42] Kim Monson: They're taking our property, our freedom, and our livelihoods.
[02:50] Kim Monson: And force can be a weapon, policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, or the latest silent thief, which is government-induced inflation, Rick.
[03:03] Rick Turnquist: But Wall Street Journal recently had an article about how the inflation rate has gotten so bad that lower-income workers, who the left professes to care about their wage gains, are being erased by the inflation.
[03:19] Rick Turnquist: And it's tragic for everybody, but especially for people that are in the lower-income bracket.
[03:23] Kim Monson: Yeah, they say that they're for the little guy.
[03:25] Kim Monson: And then when you look at this huge, and you've really gone through and looked at, well, as much as you can, this potential big spending bill.
[03:38] Kim Monson: And there's all kinds of special things for, quote unquote, the Democrat rich.
[03:40] Rick Turnquist: And when I read, I didn't read the bill itself because nobody has time for that.
[03:49] Rick Turnquist: And it really seems to be just a progressive fantasy list.
[03:53] Rick Turnquist: And when you look at all the bullet points in this piece, I tried to capture the high-level ones.
[04:00] Rick Turnquist: But free community college, free this, free that, more things targeted to lower-income people.
[04:07] Rick Turnquist: And they always say they want to help lower-income people.
[04:11] Rick Turnquist: And I say, how about we don't inflate the currency and why don't we cut the tax burden?
[04:14] Rick Turnquist: As I discovered when I was writing this, you know, the people in the lower 50%of the income brackets only pay about 13% ofall income taxes.
[04:23] Rick Turnquist: So, you know, they're already in a position where they don't really bear that much of the cost of government, but yet the government is doing everything they can to make it more difficult for them.
[04:38] Kim Monson: Well, and also, Rick, as I've gone through, you and I have both been on this journey of public policy.
[04:44] Kim Monson: Everybody needs to have skin in the game because if you don't have skin in the game, you don't mind voting to have somebody else pay something.
[04:51] Kim Monson: Everybody needs to have some skin in the game.
[04:56] Rick Turnquist: I don't remember who said it, but they said when people discover that they can use the power of government to tax others to benefit themselves, then our country is done.
[05:08] Rick Turnquist: And I'm grossly paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it.
[05:14] Kim Monson: Speaking of Thomas Jefferson, he is our quote for the day.
[05:19] Kim Monson: He was an American statesman, diplomat, lawyer, architect, musician, philosopher, and founding father.
[05:24] Kim Monson: He was, I think, a couple of years ahead of Stephen School.
[05:32] Producer Steve: Otherwise, I'd be offended.
[05:34] Producer Steve: Okay.
[05:35] Kim Monson: Third president of the United States, and he was born in 1743.
[05:41] Kim Monson: We did a John Adams quote yesterday.
[05:44] Kim Monson: Did you know that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on the same day?
[05:53] Kim Monson: 50 years after the Declaration of Independence.
[05:58] Kim Monson: Anyway, this is what Thomas Jefferson said.
[06:01] Kim Monson: I am for a government rigorously frugal and simple, applying all the possible savings of the public revenue to the discharge of the national debt, and not for a multiplication of officers and salaries merely to make partisans, and for increasing by every device the public debt on the principle of its being a public blessing.
[06:23] Kim Monson: I thought you'd like that one, Rick Turquist.
[06:26] Rick Turnquist: That's the best quote of the day ever, I think, because it exactly sums up the philosophy behind the founders that established our national government, which has grown way, way, way beyond anything they could have even imagined.
[06:45] Rick Turnquist: Trillion, I'm sorry, boondoggle passes, then it will grow even more out of control.
[06:52] Rick Turnquist: It's really, I think, not just this bill itself, but the mindset behind it is very dangerous for our country.
[07:00] Kim Monson: Rick I think there is a strategy here and that is and I'm going back to when I was shopping for athletic shoes for my kids and they wanted the really expensive ones and they were expensive and so we compromised to something when I got home and it's like, wait a minute, I didn't want to spend$ 100 on shoes, but I spent 75.
[07:22] Kim Monson: And this is what I see is maybe happening here.
[07:26] Kim Monson: 5 trillion, butthey may pare it down.
[07:29] Kim Monson: And when it's all said and done, we're like, wait a minute, we've done 1.
[07:36] Rick Turnquist: It wouldn't be, it wouldn't surprise me that it's a strategy.
[07:41] Rick Turnquist: I've seen numbers as high as$ 6 billion being floated when it comes to these large bills that the Democrats want to put in place while they still have their tenuous grasp on power.
[07:54] Rick Turnquist: But it's all imaginary anyway, because we can't afford it no matter what.
[08:02] Rick Turnquist: And when you look at the tax burden that people pay, government can raise money in one of two ways, by taxation or by borrowing.
[08:19] Rick Turnquist: And they borrow money, a lot of it from the Chinese.
[08:24] Rick Turnquist: A lot of the people that buy treasury debt are the Chinese, who are our global rivals.
[08:33] Rick Turnquist: And in your personal, your family budget, you don't go out and spend thousands of dollars on credit cards and then borrow money to spend more on credit cards.
[08:43] Rick Turnquist: When you live beyond your means, sooner or later you go bankrupt.
[08:47] Rick Turnquist: And the United States has been living beyond its means for decades now.
[08:51] Rick Turnquist: That's why we have$ 30 trillion or whatever the number is in national debt.
[08:55] Rick Turnquist: The national debt is higher than the value of the United States economy, and that's a problem.
[09:00] Rick Turnquist: And sooner or later, we will be subject to the laws of economics and human nature in this country.
[09:06] Rick Turnquist: We'll experience a sovereign default, and it will be ugly.
[09:14] Producer Steve: You know, after what he just said, maybe it's a good time to remind all who are listening, if you really want to get your head around this, go to the National Debt Clock.
[09:24] Producer Steve: It's real time.
[09:26] Producer Steve: And the figures are spinning faster than you can.
[09:30] Kim Monson: You could use it as a fan right now, right?
[09:31] Producer Steve: So let me get the website.
[09:33] Producer Steve: It's, where is it?
[09:34] Producer Steve: USDetClock.
[09:35] Producer Steve: org.
[09:35] Producer Steve: usdebtclock.
[09:36] Producer Steve: org.
[09:38] Producer Steve: It'll makeyour head spin.
[09:41] Kim Monson: And what is so immoral about this, Rick and Steve, is this, that the founding fathers, they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to pass on liberty to the next generation.
[09:55] Kim Monson: And here we are, our generation, and we want to pass a big fat IOU on to the next generation, and they haven't even had a voice in it, Rick, not even a voice.
[10:04] Rick Turnquist: We've already passed a giant debt to future generations, and it's just going to get worse.
[10:09] Kim Monson: Okay, Mitch McConnell says he's going to put a line in the sand here, finally, about not increasing the debt ceiling.
[10:19] Rick Turnquist: I think either side is, I think they'll probably cave at some point, because it's, a lot of federal government spending right now is on autopilot.
[10:32] Rick Turnquist: It's going to increase every year, no matter what, unless severe changes are made to how our government spends money.
[10:42] Rick Turnquist: And I don't believe there's the political will on either side in Washington to do that right now.
[10:48] Rick Turnquist: So I think the best we can hope for is to prevent new additional things like this$ 3.
[10:57] Kim Monson: But I want to float this idea with you.
[10:59] Kim Monson: What about, because baby boomers have had the best of the best.
[11:07] Kim Monson: We have, you know, so many blessings.
[11:11] Kim Monson: What do you think about proposing that everybody on all these entitlements take a 5% cut?
[11:22] Kim Monson: Because otherwise, if we have a sovereign default, there's going to be more than a 5% care cut.
[11:39] Rick Turnquist: When I think about all the money I've paid into Social Security over the years, if I had been able to keep that money and invest it, I would be retired right now and I wouldn't be working anymore.
[11:49] Rick Turnquist: So the government, you know, I gave that money to the government in accordance with the law, because if I hadn't, I would have been in jail.
[12:02] Rick Turnquist: I gave the government money to fund my retirement, and I want that money back.
[12:07] Kim Monson: And the other question is, if you outlive the money you put into Social Security, should you get more?
[12:14] Kim Monson: Well, I don't think that is the case, no.
[12:21] Rick Turnquist: But there are so many other things that could be cut in this government.
[12:25] Rick Turnquist: That I think that the repaying people that have paid into the system should come first.
[12:35] Rick Turnquist: So you mean maybe like not paying for all the people that are coming in across the border?
[12:50] Rick Turnquist: I mean, you and I have talked about Colorado state government.
[12:53] Rick Turnquist: And we've talked to lawmakers who said there's a lot of fluff in this and there's a lot of waste.
[12:59] Rick Turnquist: Well, there's a lot of fluff and waste throughout the federal government.
[13:07] Rick Turnquist: And why don't we talk about eliminating all these unconstitutional federal agencies?
[13:14] Kim Monson: That would be a great way to save money.
[13:16] Rick Turnquist: I don't recall seeing anything about that the last time I read the Constitution.
[13:30] Rick Turnquist: There's a lot of places to save money before we start talking about cutting Social Security.
[13:43] Kim Monson: It's always great to have him here.
[13:47] Kim Monson: Before we do that, though, Doug Chamberlain is our guest on America's Veterans Stories this Sunday at 3 and at 10.
[13:54] Kim Monson: And, Producer Steve, it is a powerful interview.
[13:56] Kim Monson: He is a sponsor of the America's Veterans Story show.
[14:00] Kim Monson: He's written this book, Bury Him, a memoir of the Vietnam War.
[14:06] Kim Monson: Anyway, we're going to go to break here, and Steve is frantically doing something.
[14:14] Producer Steve: Sorry, I was getting ready for break and pushed the wrong button.
[14:17] Producer Steve: It is an incredible interview because you can hear in his voice the knee- jerk train wreck, I guess isa better way to say it.
[14:27] Producer Steve: Marines are fanatical about not leaving anybody behind.
[14:30] Producer Steve: And when you get an order to leave somebody behind, again, it's got to be a train wreck in your soul.
[14:39] Producer Steve: So it's a very, very powerful interview.
[14:40] Kim Monson: would highly recommend that you tune in on that.
[14:43] Kim Monson: So I was just trying to see how quick on his feet that producer Steve was.
[14:50] Kim Monson: We'll be right back with Rick Turnquist.
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[15:45] Kim Monson: First of all, I want to continue to remind you that this governor, Governor Polis, on May 21st of 2021, signed Senate Bill 21- 142.
[15:54] Kim Monson: It's the health care accessin cases of rape or incest, sponsored by Democrat Senators Pedersen and Donovan and Democrat representatives Carveo and McCluskey.
[16:06] Kim Monson: And it says in there, every person has a right to privacy with respect to personal health decisions, free from coercion or interference from the government.
[16:19] Kim Monson: So I think Rick Turnquist, I think perhaps that when we're having all this forced coercion about masking and vaccines, and again, You want to wear a mask?
[16:32] Kim Monson: But when we're looking at force and coercion, it looks like it's against the law here in California.
[16:40] Rick Turnquist: Isn't it funny how they seem to forget that principle when they're talking about using government force to put government values and government health decisions on people?
[16:53] Rick Turnquist: I don't believe that the left has coherent philosophy.
[17:02] Rick Turnquist: I would call it more of a chaotic emotion processing.
[17:05] Rick Turnquist: And so they talk about your body, your choice when it comes to things like abortion and and these things that you just mentioned, but when it comes to people putting substances, you're in your body without your consent.
[17:23] Rick Turnquist: And and you know, I want to point out that part of the Elijah McCain tragedy was was paramedics injecting a substance into his body- ketamine- and I don't believe that the government or agents of the government should have the power or the ability to inject any substance in anybody's body without their consent.
[17:41] Kim Monson: And just a quick note regarding, they go over to My Body, My Choice, but a young person actually made this point to me, since when does a body have two heartbeats?
[17:52] Kim Monson: So there's that whole thing that it just doesn't match up.
[17:58] Kim Monson: But speaking of incoherent, this first article that Patty has pulled here from The Federalist says black lives matter is threatening an uprising against racist vaccine mandates, and this is by eddie scary or scurry from the federalist.
[18:13] Kim Monson: And he says it's a rule in the national media that vaccine hesitancy is worthy of shame and scorn right up until it collides with their most precious cause: the black lives matter.
[18:25] Kim Monson: Movement: hesitant white nurses outcast.
[18:29] Kim Monson: Shun Hasn't white Trump supporters guillotine.
[18:32] Kim Monson: But there's oddly been no prescription for the Black Lives Matter crew in New York, who are accusing the city of racial discrimination by mandating vaccines for public indoor activity.
[18:46] Kim Monson: He's probably not in relation to Gavin.
[18:48] Kim Monson: But anyway, he said, the co- founder and chairman of BlackLives Matter Greater New York was quoted Saturday in the New York Times saying that restaurants are using vaccine mandates to enforce their racist beliefs and excluding black patrons.
[19:01] Kim Monson: At a protest Monday in front of New York restaurant Carmine's, Shavonna Newsom, also a co- founder of the group, saidof the vaccine mandates, what is going to stop the Gestapo?
[19:15] Kim Monson: But from rounding up black people, from snatching them off the train, off the bus.
[19:19] Kim Monson: She further issued the threat that BLM was putting this sitting on notice that your mandate will not be another racist social distance practice and that black people are not going to stand by, or you will see another uprising.
[19:33] Rick Turnquist: It just is so satisfying when the left eats its own like that.
[19:39] Rick Turnquist: And it just goes to show that even a broken clock can be right twice a day.
[19:47] Rick Turnquist: And in this case, they're against the mandates and they should be.
[19:52] Rick Turnquist: And I don't buy into all the racist crap, clap trap, but it's clearly out there that a lot of people are opposed to mandates.
[20:01] Rick Turnquist: You know, when the idea of vaccine passports were being floated earlier this year, even leftists were coming out and saying, no, we don't want any vaccine passports.
[20:11] Rick Turnquist: So it's a fringe idea that doesn't belong in American life.
[20:16] Rick Turnquist: And I'm glad that people are standing up against it.
[20:18] Kim Monson: Well, and the other thing about it, Rick, is the data that they use.
[20:23] Kim Monson: So first of all, remember, it was two weeks to flatten the curve.
[20:26] Kim Monson: And we wanted to make sure our hospitals weren't overrun.
[20:30] Kim Monson: But Patty had found this piece from KDVR.
[20:32] Kim Monson: It says one in four COVID hospitalizations are not due to COVID.
[20:45] Kim Monson: And they awarded Brenda Bach, the coroner from Grand Lake, the American Patriot Award because she has continued to push to get some of this data correct.
[20:59] Kim Monson: And what's interesting is in November of 2020, there were two people that died in Grand County.
[21:06] Kim Monson: It's such a small county that she could really– because nobody else had died.
[21:12] Kim Monson: Before they even finished theirinvestigation, the state of Colorado had them noted as COVID deaths, and so she reached out, said: hey, we need to change this.
[21:26] Kim Monson: So she had a conversation with Governor Polis and and apparently he said: well, we're going to check and see what other states are doing and comes back and says: well, they're doing the same thing, so we're not going to change it.
[21:37] Kim Monson: So she said that they actually had Cheryl Atkinson is on this now.
[21:40] Kim Monson: Last Sunday, on full measure, she had gone out and interviewed Brenda.
[21:44] Kim Monson: But the Grand County numbers were inflated 500%.
[21:47] Kim Monson: So there was the murder suicide that's still noted as COVID.
[21:52] Kim Monson: There was a heart attack that was noted as COVID and two people that are still alive that were noted as COVID deaths.
[21:59] Kim Monson: So how on earth do you use the this data to put for these policies?
[22:05] Kim Monson: Good for Black Lives Matter on this?
[22:07] Rick Turnquist: Yeah, if I hate to say when I agree with them, but like I said, a broken clock could be right twice a day.
[22:13] Kim Monson: In this case they're right, that's for sure, rick, this always goes so quickly when you're in studio, and I can't wait to get to the piece that you've written.
[22:21] Kim Monson: But as you know, this this show comes to you because I have so many great sponsors and before we go to break on the line with me is hal van herky.
[22:31] Kim Monson: He and his wife linea are entrepreneurs.
[22:32] Kim Monson: They own castlegate, knife and tool, which is located right here in sedalia of Colorado.
[22:37] Kim Monson: It's a great little family- owned business, and their website iscastlegate.
[22:43] Kim Monson: And HalVan Herke, youwere on last week, and I heard from a number of listeners.
[22:48] Kim Monson: They so appreciated your words of inspiration, really.
[22:50] Kim Monson: And I know that you heard from a bunch of people as well.
[22:56] Hal Van Hercke: Yeah, I think we don't have as much time today as last week, but mainly what I was saying is that those of us that I feel like we're on the conservative, we're conservative, we're on the right side of the political spectrum.
[23:18] Hal Van Hercke: You know, the most recent one being how frustrated people are with mandatory vaccine rollout in the government, trying to circumvent the Constitution by using large employers and large corporations to do their dirty work.
[23:34] Hal Van Hercke: And really the message was just like, you know, let's not give up.
[23:37] Hal Van Hercke: Let's just get fed up and start resisting peacefully and in our own way and just non- complying, refusing to put up withit.
[23:46] Hal Van Hercke: And not only draw your line right where it needs to be, but, you know, go ahead and take two steps forward, big steps forward and reclaim, you know, things that you feel like you've lost in terms of either being, you know, through wokeism or cancel culture or anything else.
[23:58] Hal Van Hercke: So, yeah, I think that's something that we all need to be doing on a daily basis is standing up for what we believe in, speaking our minds, letting those people next to us know that we don't always agree with something they say just because it's the appropriate cancel culture position of the moment.
[24:31] Kim Monson: I had a friend of mine just recently who wants more information.
[24:21] Kim Monson: She wants more studies before she takes the jab.
[24:26] Kim Monson: But yet, she sublets a place where she does her business, and the person that she was subletting from said, unless you get the jab, I'm not going to renew your lease.
[24:38] Kim Monson: My friend reached out to me and I said: stay strong on that.
[24:42] Kim Monson: I said she needs you to help pay her rent as well, and so she did stand strong on that.
[24:48] Kim Monson: Let's say you take out the word uh, get the jab, I won't.
[24:52] Kim Monson: I won't lease to you if you are fill in the words black, gay, any of those kinds of things, and people would be up in arms if that was the case.
[25:04] Hal Van Hercke: Republican, conservative, republican, yeah, it could be anything, But you know I won't.
[25:14] Hal Van Hercke: So, you know, some of these things are illegal and specifically spelled out as illegal in the law in terms of discrimination.
[25:22] Hal Van Hercke: And some of some of these just fall into the camp where you look at somebody like they were nuts if they said they weren't going to renew somebody's business lease because they didn't agree with them on X, Y, Z social issue or something like that.
[25:39] Hal Van Hercke: And if you look at the statistics, there's just as many of us who are frustrated with this contingent encroachment on personal freedom than there are that keep pushing it.
[25:57] Hal Van Hercke: But frankly, if you look at what we used to call mainstream media, they've lost so much market share that I'm not sure they're even the mainstream anymore.
[26:04] Hal Van Hercke: And we have plenty of conservative voices in the conservative media.
[26:08] Hal Van Hercke: We have bloggers online, we have ourselves, the groups we belong to, and the kim Monson show, like the kim Monson show, absolutely, you know.
[26:17] Hal Van Hercke: We just need to do more of this and we need to exercise our voice.
[26:21] Hal Van Hercke: So that's um, and stop thinking that we're back into a corner and just get a little, uh, fed up and a little feisty I, and so I really appreciate that.
[26:29] Kim Monson: Uh, also, let's, let's talk just a little bit about Castlegate, Knife and Tool.
[26:34] Kim Monson: And you had been running a knife, you had a knife sharpening event, and I did go out and have one of my knives sharpened.
[26:42] Kim Monson: But you're running a special right now.
[26:44] Hal Van Hercke: Yeah, our special now between the end of October is aimed specifically at people who use their knives for a living.
[26:52] Hal Van Hercke: So if you're a chef, or you work in a butcher shop, or you are a tradesperson who uses a knife every day for part of your job, if you bring that knife and to be sharpened 18 times now between now and the end of October, we'll give you 20% off your knife sharpening.
[27:07] Hal Van Hercke: So justreally wanting to, you know, focus on the people who need those knives and use those knives for a living.
[27:15] Hal Van Hercke: Especially looking at chefs and butchers and restaurant owners and things like that.
[27:19] Kim Monson: And your technician that did this for my knife, I mean, I can tell that he is a specialist in this field.
[27:28] Kim Monson: And, of course, if you're using your knife for your livelihood, you don't want to trust that to just anybody.
[27:34] Kim Monson: And I think sometimes people say, well, I'm not going to get it sharpened because I don't know.
[27:40] Kim Monson: So, again, how do people make that happen?
[27:41] Kim Monson: So you can either go to our website, casagate.
[27:44] Hal Van Hercke: com, and under sharpening, which is rightup one of the first options on the navigation bar, casagate.
[27:52] Hal Van Hercke: or you cango into our store in Sedalia, Colorado, and just walk in and bring your knives in, and we'll hook you up with sharpening.
[28:00] Hal Van Hercke: And it usually takes a two- or three- day turnaround to get thoseback to you.
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[29:30] Kim Monson: And he's come all the way from Oklahoma to be here.
[29:36] Rick Turnquist: Having a fun weekend here in my native state and heading back tomorrow.
[29:41] Rick Turnquist: It's very red, very Republican, and even the earth is red.
[29:46] Rick Turnquist: And when I was doing some research recently, I saw that every single county in Oklahoma voted for President Donald Trump.
[29:53] Rick Turnquist: So I feel like I'm at home there when I think about the political world.
[29:58] Rick Turnquist: The Daily newspaper there does have a little bit of a left- leaning slant, but that's to be expected fromthe media.
[30:05] Rick Turnquist: But our governor in Oklahoma is a true conservative.
[30:18] Rick Turnquist: And it's interesting to me that here in Colorado, several of your progressive lefties ran these bills over recent years to make it so that high schools couldn't have Native American mascots and images and names and stuff.
[30:31] Rick Turnquist: But in Oklahoma I find it very interesting that the culture is such that the Native American heritage of that land is very much embraced and is very much a part of life in Oklahoma.
[30:47] Rick Turnquist: And people that are members of various tribes have license plates that say, you know, member of whatever tribe.
[30:53] Rick Turnquist: And the state flag has an Indian symbol on it, a Native American symbol on it.
[30:58] Rick Turnquist: So I find that more refreshing than this divisiveness that comes out of the left here in Colorado.
[31:04] Rick Turnquist: And I find that there it's embracing the Native American culture.
[31:19] Kim Monson: But I have to tell you, I feel kind of this oppressive air here.
[31:23] Kim Monson: And whenever I drive across the border to another state, or like if I'm going to Wyoming, it's like I hit that border.
[31:33] Kim Monson: I just feel this oppression here in Colorado.
[31:36] Kim Monson: And a lot of our friends, you, have left.
[31:41] Kim Monson: However, at this particular point in time, I feel compelled to stay here and fight.
[31:47] Kim Monson: Not, and I get, I mean, there's all kinds of reasons that people leave.
[31:51] Kim Monson: But right now, I feel that for our state and for our country, and with this voice that we have here, that I need to stay and fight.
[31:59] Kim Monson: Because Colorado is the petri dish.
[32:01] Kim Monson: They try it here, and then they export it.
[32:03] Kim Monson: And one of those things, you'd written a very excellent op- ed, was this LEAP, which is, Patty putthis here so that I get the actual title actually correct here.
[32:12] Kim Monson: The Learning Enrichment and Academic Progress Program.
[32:20] Kim Monson: Reason being, puts in place, this is a government that is supposed to be of the people, by the people, and for the people.
[32:28] Kim Monson: And this puts this: it takes this out of an an elected position and it it creates an unelected authority board of nine members chosen by this governor.
[32:40] Kim Monson: They choose their replacements, they have full taxing power, they choose all the vendors and it's quote, unquote: a new marijuana tax, a state marijuana tax for the children.
[32:51] Kim Monson: It makes me mad when, when they take kids and they are pushing for this thing.
[32:58] Rick Turnquist: And I'm very disappointed in people that are Republicans who have signed on to this thing, because it's really not a legitimate function of government to punish one group of people for using a product that's illegal in this state by taxing them more to fund this program, which.
[33:20] Rick Turnquist: as you say, will be governed by an unaccountable board that's a bunch of political cronies that are being appointed by the governor.
[33:28] Rick Turnquist: And they'll have all this power and tax money to play with.
[33:33] Rick Turnquist: And it's just unconscionable that this is even a concept and even on the ballot.
[33:41] Rick Turnquist: And even if they see a Republican that has signed on to it to think, Is this really the proper function of government?
[33:53] Kim Monson: Well, and I think it was sold to many of these Republicans.
[33:56] Kim Monson: And Steve, I know, is going to jump in here in just a minute.
[33:59] Kim Monson: But I think it was sold to a number of these.
[34:01] Kim Monson: And there's some people I really like and respect who have their names on there.
[34:05] Kim Monson: And I'd really encourage them to get their names off of there.
[34:11] Kim Monson: I don't think people realize that sometimes it's not just that ballot question.
[34:16] Kim Monson: This is a 14 pages that really explains what it's going to do.
[34:20] Kim Monson: And if you read that, it's like, wait a minute.
[34:27] Rick Turnquist: And I think that that's where they're coming from is that it was sold to them as a better outcome for children.
[34:34] Rick Turnquist: And I know a lot of us care about school boards and education and all that.
[34:41] Rick Turnquist: But it's really not– I think it's a wolf in sheep's clothing type thing.
[34:47] Rick Turnquist: And I think if they dug in and read more closely what it's about and what it will do, that they might want to check their premises, as Francisco would say.
[34:59] Kim Monson: And Steve, when we were doing our pre- call,I mean, you called it.
[35:05] Kim Monson: 3million, and they've spent– they spent$ 950, 000.
[35:08] Kim Monson: It'sactually a Republican operative that's running the whole campaign.
[35:11] Kim Monson: And his firm that does petition gatherings has already been paid$ 950, 000.
[35:18] Kim Monson: Andso it's a little bit of the fall of the money.
[35:26] Kim Monson: I mean, you talk about a David and Goliath thing.
[35:27] Kim Monson: But you mentioned that you can see the ads coming, Steve.
[35:31] Producer Steve: And I know my blood pressure is going to rise every time I see one.
[35:37] Producer Steve: And so another reason to stay away from broadcast media.
[35:39] Producer Steve: But can you just envision what the commercials are going to look like?
[35:45] Kim Monson: The happy child running to the after- school programthat's paid for by this marijuana tax.
[35:48] Producer Steve: Do it for the children and yada, yada, yada.
[35:51] Producer Steve: And I'm just, wait a minute, there's more to it than that?
[35:54] Producer Steve: For sure.
[35:55] Kim Monson: And I want to get to Rick's piece, but Rick, I want you to comment on this.
[35:58] Kim Monson: And that is, you kind of alluded to this, the tax on marijuana, they're quoted as like sin taxes.
[36:03] Kim Monson: Something that the other people may not approve of.
[36:11] Kim Monson: Somebody would say I don't smoke marijuana, I don't use marijuana, not a problem, but you have to be careful on these kinds of things, because what if you have people in power that think it's a well alcohol tobacco?
[36:24] Kim Monson: Those are a couple, but what about?
[36:27] Kim Monson: I was with the women of weld last night and I said: what about ammo?
[36:31] Kim Monson: Or what about, somebody said, what about gas?
[36:35] Kim Monson: And you start to go down a very dangerous road when you start to do this kind of policy.
[36:39] Rick Turnquist: Well, they already add excise taxes to gasoline and they add...
[36:47] Rick Turnquist: And the truth is, there's a lot of money in the state government budget.
[36:51] Rick Turnquist: I took a deep dive into that a couple of years ago.
[36:54] Rick Turnquist: There's a lot of money there that could be spent on transportation and it's the people in charge, Republican and Democrat, have put it elsewhere.
[37:03] Rick Turnquist: So, every time we complain about roads and bridges, it's just a silly thing to talk about, because the money's there and it's all a matter of how it's being spent by the people in charge.
[37:15] Rick Turnquist: And for all their lip service to transportation, they just don't want to allocate the money to it.
[37:20] Kim Monson: And your connection on that was the fees on gas and all that.
[37:23] Kim Monson: Okay, let's jump over here to this important piece that you have done, truth and reconciliation.
[37:31] Rick Turnquist: Well, I think that the backdrop is that after the election, when the Democrats, it was like my worst nightmare.
[37:40] Rick Turnquist: President or Joe Biden being elected president and then the Democrats taking full control of the United States Congress.
[37:48] Rick Turnquist: And they do have full control, but it's not a mandate type full control.
[37:52] Rick Turnquist: Like they don't have an overwhelming majority like the Republicans do in my new state of Oklahoma.
[38:02] Rick Turnquist: And they know when you hear that crowds in stadiums are chanting a pejorative expression against the president, and these are mostly young people, you know there's a groundswell of unrest in the nation over the incompetence and bungling of this administration.
[38:22] Rick Turnquist: So I think the Democrats are fully aware that they will most likely lose control of the national government in the next election.
[38:34] Rick Turnquist: And that's why I put in this piece that election integrity is so important.
[38:39] Rick Turnquist: And we can read the piece and see all this progressive boondoggle, you know, universal pre- K, government-funded childcare, establishing minimum wages of$ 15 per hour per child care workers.
[38:52] Rick Turnquist: I saw in researching this, people are talking about raising the minimum wage to$ 24 an hour, free community college, increasing Pell Grants, making permanent the child tax credit that's out there, expanding Obamacare subsidies, investing.
[39:08] Rick Turnquist: And I love the way they always use the word investing.
[39:14] Rick Turnquist: Investing is when you put money into a savings vehicle or buy a part of a company through a purchase of stock.
[39:25] Kim Monson: On that note, when I was on city council, it cracked me up.
[39:34] Kim Monson: When you have PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties talk about ROI on the money that they're spending of other people's money, which is return on investment.
[39:44] Rick Turnquist: It actually is comical because they're using a concept that doesn't apply in that instance.
[39:51] Rick Turnquist: And, of course, they want to combat climate change by making investments, air quotes, to reduce carbon emissions and for the power grid to get 80% of itspower from emissions free.
[40:02] Rick Turnquist: And I'll tell you, all energy sources have some environmental costs.
[40:14] Rick Turnquist: Oh, and they're not as reliable as we saw last February in Texas and Kansas and Oklahoma.
[40:22] Rick Turnquist: It's a child's fantasy to think that they can get all that 80% of our powerfrom so- called emissions- free, whichis alie, sources.
[40:37] Rick Turnquist: gov, you can see thatright now our sources and uses, renewable energy provides about 11% of our power.
[40:43] Kim Monson: I'd likeJohn Kerry to actually fly those jets around that he's flying around all the time, via either solar power or wind.
[40:54] Rick Turnquist: Well, I think that electricity just comes out of the wall by magic.
[40:58] Rick Turnquist: I mean, they don't understand what it takes to provide it.
[41:01] Rick Turnquist: And I think the most disturbing thing is they want to create a civilian climate corporation to employ young people to work conserving public lands, bolstering community resilience and advancing environmental justice.
[41:23] Rick Turnquist: So I encourage your readers to Google the word Komsomol, spelled K- O- M- S- O- M- O-L,toseewhatthis–whenI read about that, that's what it reminded me of was the Komsomol.
[41:36] Rick Turnquist: It was a youth organization in the Soviet Union that was bringing young people up to be good Soviet citizens and doing public works projects and all kinds of stuff.
[41:51] Rick Turnquist: And it actually, you know, I hate to even mention this, but it actually reminds me of the Hitler youth in a way because it's just indoctrination of young people.
[41:58] Rick Turnquist: And just imagine these young people knocking on your door.
[42:04] Rick Turnquist: I mean, it's just insane, these things that they're thinking about.
[42:11] Kim Monson: When you create something like this with youth and they're out having to do this, they are not working and starting to create wealth for themselves.
[42:21] Rick Turnquist: They're not getting that first job, probably because the minimum wage is too high and they can't get hired.
[42:27] Rick Turnquist: And it fosters a belief in a dependency on government.
[42:34] Rick Turnquist: And it's about– I went to a restaurant the other night and there was one person working the front stand, where they greet you and take you to be seated.
[42:45] Rick Turnquist: Normally, pre- COVID, there would be two or three peoplethere doing that work.
[42:48] Rick Turnquist: And I'm like, I'll bet you this is because they're having trouble finding staff and because the government is paying people to stay home.
[42:58] Rick Turnquist: I'd much rather be out working and earning my keep than sitting home relying on a government handout to pay my bills.
[43:12] Kim Monson: In studio with me is Rick Turnquist.
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[45:41] Rick Turnquist: 5 trillion dollars uh bill and let's justsee here three six nine so 3.
[45:54] Rick Turnquist: It's an amount of money that's not even really imaginable.
[45:59] Rick Turnquist: But think about, if you're one of the 144 million, roughly, taxpayers in America, that's about 25 grand out of your pocket to pay for this$ 3.
[46:11] Rick Turnquist: And that's on top ofeverything else you pay in taxes.
[46:17] Rick Turnquist: And as I researched this, I realized that the government actually spends about$ 6.
[46:22] Rick Turnquist: 5 trillion a year, which is about$ 45,000 per taxpayer.
[46:30] Rick Turnquist: If you took Jeff Bezos, if you expropriated illegally and immorally Jeff Bezos' entire fortune, it would fund the federal government for about 11 days.
[46:43] Rick Turnquist: So taking money from people that have earned it is not the way to fund these things, to fund the government.
[46:52] Rick Turnquist: I listened to a podcast by Ben Shapiro, and he talked about this a little bit.
[46:55] Rick Turnquist: And it got me curious to look at taxation in America again.
[46:57] Rick Turnquist: And under current tax law, a single individual earns more than$ 523, 601 and is taxed at 37%.
[47:06] Rick Turnquist: If theylive in the high- tax state like California, which has a topmarginal tax rate of 13%, they're paying a little bit over 50% of their income, of money that they earnthrough their productive labor.
[47:22] Kim Monson: I mean, what about all the other taxes and fees?
[47:26] Rick Turnquist: So at what point do you become a slave when you pay 50%, 75% of what you earn to the government?
[47:34] Kim Monson: Okay, and let's talk about that term, slave, because we hear this all the time with all the things going on.
[47:41] Kim Monson: And what that means is that you don't get to keep the fruits of your labor.
[47:45] Kim Monson: Somebody else benefits from the fruits of your labor, right?
[47:48] Rick Turnquist: You may theoretically be a free person, but if you can be put in jail for not giving the government X percentage of your income.
[47:53] Rick Turnquist: And if it gets close to all of it, that's very close to slavery.
[48:00] Rick Turnquist: And corporations used to be taxed at 35 percent prior to the 2017 tax cut bill, which was the crowning achievement of the trump administration, and the economy was humming.
[48:18] Rick Turnquist: You know, looking back to the good old days when trump was president, grass prices were much lower and inflation was lower, and the world respected us, you know, because they knew that we were meant what we said.
[48:27] Rick Turnquist: And and now, like I said, there's a deep groundswell in America of unhappiness with this current administration.
[48:37] Rick Turnquist: And they just continue to gloss over and pump up the Biden administration.
[48:48] Rick Turnquist: And then in three years when the next presidential election happens, I believe there's going to be a serious change coming.
[48:55] Rick Turnquist: So getting back to taxation, the Democrats want to raise taxes on people who are successful.
[49:05] Rick Turnquist: The fact of the matter is, the rich already pay 40% of all income taxes in the United States as of2018..
[49:14] Rick Turnquist: The top 25 and higher in terms of income pay 87% of all income taxes.
[49:17] Rick Turnquist: The bottom 50% pay only 3% ofall income taxes paid, Kim.
[49:22] Rick Turnquist: In fact, accordingto the Heritage Foundation,over time, high- income Americans have soldered a larger and larger share of the cost to government.
[49:34] Rick Turnquist: Even the 2017 tax cuts reduced tax bills for the lowest- income Americans by 10%, while only cutting taxes for the top 1% by 0.
[49:43] Rick Turnquist: Even after the tax cuts, the rich pay a larger, notsmaller, share ofincome taxes.
[50:00] Rick Turnquist: Arthur Lafferty in his excellent book, The Wealth of States, talks about this.
[50:04] Rick Turnquist: A fair tax is a broad-based tax levied on everybody that's at a low percentage, like Colorado's flat income tax.
[50:21] Rick Turnquist: So a rich person that earns a million dollars a year is going to pay 4.
[50:26] Rick Turnquist: A poorer person or less well economically off person that earns 50,000 a year will pay 4.
[50:35] Kim Monson: And the point to remember, because the left always says, well, from a percentage standpoint, the person with a million dollars is paying– how did they say that?
[50:47] Rick Turnquist: They think that people that earn more money should pay more because they earn more money.
[50:52] Kim Monson: But they are paying more because they're paying 4 point whatever percent on a million dollars.
[51:00] Rick Turnquist: And in fact, the taxes that hurt lower income people the most are sales taxes, sin taxes, because a lot of people that don't make a lot of money are the ones who smoke and pay the tobacco taxes or the vaping products taxes.
[51:15] Rick Turnquist: They're the ones who might be likely to pay the marijuana taxes and have that increased on them.
[51:21] Rick Turnquist: They bear the cost of higher government fees and premiums.
[51:30] Rick Turnquist: All those government takings hurt lower income people more than it hurts people that make more money.
[51:40] Rick Turnquist: And people that have wealth, and I'm not in the top 1%, and I'm certainly not, but people who have wealth have ways of avoiding taxes legally.
[51:50] Rick Turnquist: And in fact, people like Joe Biden, who apparently owes half a million dollars in back taxes, found ways to avoid taxes.
[51:59] Rick Turnquist: So people will recognize that they're not going to pay over a certain percentage of their income, whatever that percentage might be.
[52:10] Rick Turnquist: And they'll move or they'll restructure their earnings or they'll do other things to avoid paying taxes.
[52:19] Rick Turnquist: A lot of wealthy people are leftists who want higher taxes on everybody, including themselves.
[52:29] Rick Turnquist: You can always write a check to the government for more money.
[52:34] Rick Turnquist: If you want to pay more to the government, then by all means do so.
[52:37] Rick Turnquist: And I've had this argument with leftists, and I always say, what percentage of your income, as a percent, are you willing to pay in taxes to fund the government programs that you want?
[52:51] Rick Turnquist: One time I did nail a guy down, and he said 21% orsomething like that.
[52:54] Rick Turnquist: Well, they want to tax higher income people at 50%, 60%, 70%, 80%, because that's their fair share.
[53:03] Kim Monson: But the economic rule is if you want less of something, you tax it.
[53:10] Kim Monson: So if you want less successful people, you tax them.
[53:16] Kim Monson: Whereas on the other side, if you look at somebody that is successful, you say, oh my gosh, this is America.
[53:25] Rick Turnquist: And people can experience success in many different ways.
[53:35] Rick Turnquist: You can start a company and build it up and sell it to a larger company and walk away with a big paycheck.
[53:41] Rick Turnquist: You can build a company like Amazon and fill a niche that people want.
[53:47] Rick Turnquist: Or Apple, which provides products that people all over the world want.
[53:57] Kim Monson: So you have a product, and if people perceive that it makes their life better or something that they want, and if a lot of people think that, then that's a way to get wealthy.
[54:11] Rick Turnquist: Yeah, it's much better to celebrate wealth than to celebrate government spending and government dependency because that's just not dignified.
[54:23] Rick Turnquist: It is, and you become– and they foster this dependency in the schools and through these programs and these minimum wage things.
[54:33] Rick Turnquist: And it's just– we need to have a complete reset in our thinking about our relationship with government in this country and recognize that government exists to protect life, liberty, and property.
[54:45] Rick Turnquist: And if it's doing anything other than that, it probably shouldn't be.
[54:50] Rick Turnquist: Now, infrastructure, we can make the argument that that's a problem.
[54:52] Rick Turnquist: You can also make a private market argument for infrastructure.
[54:55] Rick Turnquist: National defense, that's a legitimate function of government.
[54:59] Rick Turnquist: You look at the southern border, and they're not doing their job.
[55:03] Kim Monson: They're certainly not doing their job.
[55:05] Kim Monson: Rick Turnquist, we only have a minute left.
[55:07] Kim Monson: How do you want to button this baby up here?
[55:09] Rick Turnquist: Well, I would encourage everybody to read my piece, learn more about the reconciliation bill, And as I've done, contact your state representative and the two United States senators, Hickenlooper and what's his name?
[55:26] Rick Turnquist: And encouragethem to vote no on this horrible, horrible bill.
[55:35] Kim Monson: Rick Turnquist, I always love Turnquist Fridays.
[55:40] Kim Monson: Our quote for today, and you're going to like this also, is from Thomas Jefferson.
[55:43] Kim Monson: And he says, to preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us up with perpetual debt.
[55:49] Kim Monson: We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude.
[55:55] Kim Monson: So, my friends, today, be grateful.
[56:04] Kim Monson: And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
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