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[02:59] Kim Monson: And we search for truth and clarity on the show by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[03:06] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it, And it's not compassionate to take other people's stuff.
[03:14] Kim Monson: So it's not compassionate for Mike Johnston and the city of Denver to take money from the taxpayers of Denver and then give it to people that have come here illegally.
[03:30] Kim Monson: So compassion never has force around it.
[03:34] Kim Monson: I think that's an important thing to remember.
[03:36] Kim Monson: But the pbis that want to take your money and control things.
[03:40] Kim Monson: They will do this under the guise of altruism or being compassionate.
[03:46] Kim Monson: And just remember, if something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[03:50] Kim Monson: And so it's not compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights: property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities or lives.
[03:58] Kim Monson: And force could be a weapon, but it's policy: unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government induced inflation.
[04:06] Kim Monson: The World Economic Forum's agenda, which goes right into the globalist elites agenda.
[04:14] Kim Monson: We're seeing it play out with the Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado Governor, the World Health Organization, land use codes, which all of this is connected.
[04:24] Kim Monson: Zoning regulations, forced fees, conservation easements, all of those things.
[04:33] Kim Monson: and they're all connected and they're all, we're at a tipping point on all this.
[04:38] Kim Monson: And so we've got to take a stand on it.
[04:43] Kim Monson: And on the show, we focus on the issues, not the personalities.
[04:46] Kim Monson: We will talk about the people pushing issues and give you the facts as we best know them.
[04:52] Kim Monson: But we're trying to stay out of all the throwing words back and forth with each other.
[05:05] Kim Monson: And it could be involving, imposing, or constituting a burden or troublesome.
[05:11] Kim Monson: Or number two, having legal obligations that outweigh the advantages.
[05:16] Kim Monson: So I was looking at the headlines, and one of them, they're headlines, I got so many of them, is that the Denver sidewalk tax is going to kick in.
[05:29] Kim Monson: And so that seems like that's public property.
[05:34] Kim Monson: Everybody walks on those sidewalks.
[05:38] Kim Monson: And, of course, when they talk about walkable cities, I just think this is a real problem.
[05:44] Kim Monson: And think about if you live on a corner.
[05:46] Kim Monson: And this is a way to take more and more of your property.
[05:49] Kim Monson: You're already paying property taxes.
[05:51] Kim Monson: So this tax, I think, is an onerous tax.
[05:57] Kim Monson: And you should be able to use that in a sentence today.
[06:01] Kim Monson: Our word of the day, excuse me, our quote of the day, I went to Milton Friedman.
[06:05] Kim Monson: And he was born in 1912, died in 2006.
[06:10] Kim Monson: He was an American economist and statistician who received the 1976 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences for his research on consumption analysis, monetary history, and theory, and the complexity of stabilization policy.
[06:56] Kim Monson: It says, who is the CEO of Laramie Energy as our featured guest in this hour.
[07:03] Kim Monson: And we're going to be talking about all of these regulations that are so onerous on our oil and gas industry.
[07:10] Kim Monson: And so I was looking for regulations quotes and Milton Friedman came up.
[07:17] Kim Monson: Corruption is government intrusion into market efficiencies in the form of regulations.
[07:27] Kim Monson: This day in history, I pulled several different things.
[07:30] Kim Monson: And I think it's important that we look back at history and realize that there were human beings doing things, important things throughout the centuries and that we're all connected.
[07:41] Kim Monson: But this this first one in 1822, Mexico is officially recognized as an independent nation by the United States.
[07:50] Kim Monson: Then in 1874, Hawaiian King David Kalakua is the first king to visit the U.
[08:06] Kim Monson: In 1901, Marconi sends the first transatlantic radio signal from Poldu in Cornwall to Newfoundland, Canada.
[08:16] Kim Monson: 1911 delhi replaces calcutta as the capital of india, and in 1946 tide laundry detergent was introduced, and then trent luce- we talked a little bit about this yesterday- that this day in history trent said was that the rockefellers, john d rockefeller had contributed or donated six blocks in Manhattan to the United Nations.
[08:45] Kim Monson: And in 1946, on this day, they accepted it.
[08:51] Kim Monson: I kind of forgot about this, and I had not realized this.
[08:57] Kim Monson: is returned by kidnappers after his father paid the$ 240,000 in ransom that was demanded.
[09:05] Kim Monson: and then in 2000 this is pretty historical the u.
[09:11] Kim Monson: S supreme court releases its 5-4 decision in bush versus gore, settling the recount dispute in florida's 2000 presidential election in george w bush's favor and thus handing him the presidency over al gore.
[09:26] Kim Monson: Just imagine, oh my gosh, if Al Gore had been president.
[09:32] Kim Monson: This whole agenda would have been started much earlier.
[09:36] Kim Monson: Well, although the Bushes ended up, I think, being globalists as well.
[09:44] Kim Monson: 2014, the UN climate change talks in Peru continue past scheduled time as negotiations continue to stall.
[09:53] Kim Monson: And then in 2015, COP21, the climate change summit in Paris, reaches a deal between 195 countries to limit the rise in global average temperature to less than two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels.
[10:10] Kim Monson: And what we're learning as we're doing these podcasts for a climate conversation, and some of these scientists that are speaking honestly because they have completed their career, they have tenure, whatever.
[10:28] Kim Monson: One of them, now I can't remember which one of it it says, is the whole climate change agenda is a communist overtake of the Western world.
[10:39] Kim Monson: And so do check out A Climate Conversation, the documentary.
[10:43] Kim Monson: It'll give you great talking points, as you are with friends and family during this Christmas holiday season, because we need to be able to have conversations about this and speak truth into it.
[10:57] Kim Monson: And so really a lot of great information.
[10:59] Kim Monson: And you can check that out at climateconversation.
[11:03] Kim Monson: So we have all that going on in 2014, 2015.
[11:05] Kim Monson: In 2020, Chinese leader Xi Jinping says the country will reduce its carbon intensity by 65%by 2030.
[11:13] Kim Monson: But we know that he's just kidding, because they are building coal- firedpower plants over there at a clipping rate.
[11:22] Kim Monson: And then in 2020, UN chief Antonio Guterres urges the world leaders to declare a climate emergency to avoid catastrophic global warming on the fifth anniversary of the Paris Climate Accord.
[11:37] Kim Monson: And so they're all in this thing together.
[11:44] Kim Monson: Next thing, and one of our listeners, the text line is 720- 605-0647.
[11:47] Kim Monson: One of our listeners texted this to me early.
[11:54] Kim Monson: It's a sad story on Channel 31 of a woman's body found outside of Lyons.
[11:59] Kim Monson: and the murder was a male that had four Spanish names in a row, didn't mention whether or not he was here legally or not, but it would be nice to find out about that.
[12:14] Kim Monson: I pulled up the article, and this is from the Daily Camera, and it says a family member's, so a man was arrested, I guess it was last Friday, so we're just getting this here, This was posted December 6th.
[12:33] Kim Monson: So the story has not been hitting the headlines as much here.
[12:42] Kim Monson: A man was arrested Friday after the Boulder County Sheriff's Office and Coroner's Office used DNA to identify human remains found in September on Blue Mountain Road, northwest of Lyons, according to a press release.
[12:55] Kim Monson: A family member's DNA was used to identify Gaudi Garcia Pina, 37, a Venezuelan citizen who had been residing in Denver, according to the press release.
[13:08] Kim Monson: Police said Pina was reported missing from Denver on July 15.
[13:11] Kim Monson: Andres Eloy Martinez Perez, 31, was arrested on suspicion of first- degreemurder and domestic violence and was booked into the Boulder County Jail.
[13:21] Kim Monson: Perez and Pena were in a relationship at the time of her disappearance, according to the release.
[13:27] Kim Monson: And it says the Boulder County Sheriff's Office received a call about human remains found on Blue Mountain Road on September 24..
[13:33] Kim Monson: An investigator said they found a missing person report from the Denver Police Department.
[13:38] Kim Monson: That appeared to be a potential match for the victim in the case.
[13:41] Kim Monson: It says the decomposition of the remains created a complication in the case, however, according to the release.
[13:48] Kim Monson: and it says the coroner received this DNA from a family member as part of the investigation.
[13:56] Kim Monson: It will be interesting to see the immigration status on actually both of them.
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[17:00] Kim Monson: We are an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[17:08] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[17:14] Kim Monson: Yesterday, we had rebroadcast an interview that we did with Colonel Bill Rutledge regarding John Heisman, of whom the Heisman Trophy is awarded.
[17:23] Kim Monson: And that award will be awarded in New York on Saturday.
[17:28] Kim Monson: And Travis Hunter, a CU player that plays both offense and defense, is one of the three finalists.
[17:41] Kim Monson: And so we did run that rebroadcast yesterday about John Heisman, because there's always things historical around all this.
[17:51] Kim Monson: It's important to understand all that.
[17:53] Kim Monson: Next thing today, we anticipate that we will send out an email regarding this food scarcity and low quality of food at Fort Carson.
[18:04] Kim Monson: This is unconscionable, what is happening there.
[18:09] Kim Monson: And Pam Long brought this to our attention, and she will be our featured guest in the second hour.
[18:13] Kim Monson: And she actually went through and did all the research with all the contact information for us to reach out with instructions on what to say to a number of our elected representatives and also some of the head people down at Fort Carson.
[18:32] Kim Monson: We normally only send one email a week, and that is on Sundays that highlights our upcoming guests and our essays.
[18:41] Kim Monson: But I said to Zach, I said, I think this is really important that we let this be a standalone, so we hope to get that out later today.
[18:49] Kim Monson: And then Josh Lowenstein brought this to our attention, and he was on earlier this week.
[18:53] Kim Monson: And this is a land designation for the Canadian links.
[19:01] Kim Monson: And it would be nearly 7,700 square miles of West Central and Southwestern Colorado, as well as a number of other states.
[19:11] Kim Monson: And the Biden administration, on its way out the door, is doing things that are really hurting the American people.
[19:18] Kim Monson: One of those is this assault upon property rights and also to reduce access to public lands for grazing, agriculture, resource development, recreation.
[19:32] Kim Monson: Ultimately, this agenda wants to, the 30 by 30, is to return the land to the national habitat, which ultimately they do not want to have any humans on using that land whatsoever.
[19:47] Kim Monson: And if you think that's crazy, remember COVID, where here in Colorado, right here, my little park down the street, they put yellow police tape around or crime scene tape around the playground equipment.
[20:04] Kim Monson: And so that kids cannot play on the playground equipment at the park during COVID.
[20:09] Kim Monson: So you can just take that example and think what that's going to mean for our public lands.
[20:16] Kim Monson: And also, as Josh said, this would affect private property as well.
[20:20] Kim Monson: And so we need to stay on top of that.
[20:28] Kim Monson: It said these Colorado cities are signaling support for Trump's mass deportations.
[20:37] Kim Monson: And we have had an invasion of our country.
[20:39] Kim Monson: by people that we don't know who they are, what their agenda is.
[20:45] Kim Monson: And then we have borrowed from our children in this massive debt and also higher and higher taxation on each and every one of us.
[20:57] Kim Monson: This is unconscionable what happened.
[20:59] Kim Monson: So we've got to get this turned around.
[21:01] Kim Monson: And Axios reports, it says leaders in Aurora, Castle Rock, and Colorado Springs are committing to comply with what President-elect Trump has called the largest deportation operation in American history.
[21:13] Kim Monson: At this point, Colorado law prohibits local police from working with federal immigration agents, setting up a conflict between state and city policies.
[21:23] Kim Monson: Denver's neighbors sharply diverge from the capital city, where Mayor Mike Johnson has vowed to resist Trump's deportation efforts.
[21:30] Kim Monson: And this defiance has drawn threats from Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, who warned that the mayor could be jailed for his position.
[21:40] Kim Monson: It says this month, the town council in Castle Rock unanimously passed a measure to comply and assist with federal immigration enforcement under Trump's plan.
[21:51] Kim Monson: My comment on this is: those that are here illegally will know which of these towns will be cooperating under Trump's plan.
[22:04] Kim Monson: And I would think that illegals will probably go to other towns and cities.
[22:11] Kim Monson: So then it goes on in Aurora where Trump has planned to start his immigration crackdown.
[22:15] Kim Monson: Mayor Mike Coffin told CBS4 this month he wants statewide restrictions lifted so the city can cooperate with immigration and customs enforcement officials on mass deportations.
[22:26] Kim Monson: So I do hope that he stands strong with Trump, and good for him to get rid of this terrible legislation as well.
[22:34] Kim Monson: It goes on to say in Colorado Springs, the city council recently passed a second resolution reaffirming its status as a non-sanctuary city.
[22:43] Kim Monson: And then earlier this year, El Paso County, where Colorado Springs is the county seat, joined Douglas, Albert, Garfield, Mesa and Rio Blanco counties in suing the state.
[22:55] Kim Monson: And it says the lawsuit challenges two state laws that restrict local governments from aiding federal immigration authorities.
[23:03] Kim Monson: And Stephen Miller, who's Trump's incoming deputy chief of staff for policy, recently revealed more details about the administration's immigration plan.
[23:12] Kim Monson: It includes a massive increase in ICE officers and a historic increase in border agents to carry out deportations, Miller said.
[23:22] Kim Monson: And next week, we're going to have Chris Harrison, who is a former border agent who's been watching all of what's been happening down in San Diego.
[23:37] Kim Monson: I'll be excited to hear what he has to say about that.
[23:41] Kim Monson: The next headline is, this is from Denver 7.
[23:47] Kim Monson: It says, the Colorado Voting System password leak investigation concludes that the passwords were unintentionally posted online.
[23:54] Kim Monson: And it says, this third-party investigation by Braid Quinn, LLC, also determined there was a policy failure and issued seven recommendations to the Colorado Secretary of State's office.
[24:06] Kim Monson: And it says the report by this firm, which was hired to conduct the investigation after the Colorado Department of State revealed the leak in late October, also found that a series of inadvertent and unforeseen events led to the public disclosure of the bio's passwords.
[24:27] Kim Monson: And this report was issued last Monday and says it was a unique set of circumstances.
[24:32] Kim Monson: and then it goes on to say, and this is by the consultant group that was hired by the Secretary of State to investigate the Secretary of State, so just connect all those dots.
[24:46] Kim Monson: It says, on an organizational level, the Secretary of State consistently took significant and appropriate measures to protect state information, including the BIOS passwords.
[24:57] Kim Monson: And it says, notably, the report determined there was a policy failure.
[25:01] Kim Monson: And then it goes on to say that it was an employee that had put the, when it says partial passwords, it was actually the complete BIOS passwords.
[25:14] Kim Monson: So again, when you're reading these news stories, it's important to understand that it was the complete BIOS passwords for, I think, 63 of the 64 counties.
[25:24] Kim Monson: And the timeframe that they gave to this organization, these consultants, to check whether or not anything nefarious happened.
[25:35] Kim Monson: As I've talked to experts, they said that it is impossible to have come to these conclusions in this short period of time.
[25:43] Kim Monson: And the other thing that's important to remember is that the Secretary of State's office did not notify the county clerks of this breach of security until it was actually made public in a letter that was issued or the information was issued by the Colorado Republican Party.
[26:05] Kim Monson: And so we're going to stay tuned on this.
[26:07] Kim Monson: I think there's a lot more that we need to do on this, and that is why our Colorado 2024 election project is so important.
[26:16] Kim Monson: Step one and step two have been funded, and the lots firms have been hired.
[26:24] Kim Monson: For both step one and step two, step one is with the United Sovereign Americans law firm that they have filed a lawsuit, which was filed back in September, based upon credible information that the United Sovereign Americans volunteers had found regarding the 2022 election and that Colorado is not even meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress for elections.
[26:51] Kim Monson: So that lawsuit is filed and the attorneys are in the back and forth.
[26:56] Kim Monson: That, I'm learning, happens in these legal cases.
[27:03] Kim Monson: And that was to raise money for half of the attorney's fees with the Wisconsin Center for Election Justice and Peter Berneger.
[27:11] Kim Monson: And then also the money to run the Titan technology systems.
[27:16] Kim Monson: And that lawsuit actually was filed on November 1st.
[27:22] Kim Monson: And the basis on that is basically that our voter rolls are not clean.
[27:24] Kim Monson: So in moving into 2025, we're going to rename the project Reclaim Colorado 2025.
[27:31] Kim Monson: And again, this is still somewhat in process.
[27:34] Kim Monson: But step three will be to raise money for a lawsuit regarding this BIOS passwords security breach and the fact that fraudulent ballots got through in Mesa County.
[27:47] Kim Monson: We have to wonder, did that happen in other counties?
[27:49] Kim Monson: We need to find out because we don't have a country if we do not have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections.
[27:57] Kim Monson: And then also there are things that are legal in Colorado, but they're not right regarding our elections, well, a variety of things.
[28:08] Kim Monson: One of the first, when I tell people this, and this was passed last election season, or excuse me, last legislative season.
[28:16] Kim Monson: And it had a Republican co-sponsor on it.
[28:20] Kim Monson: And it's like, gosh, guys, you got to keep your names off of these bad bills.
[28:23] Kim Monson: But in that bill, it was election modifications here in Colorado.
[28:27] Kim Monson: And Steve Finberg, Senator Finberg was the main sponsor on that, a Democrat.
[28:37] Kim Monson: And there wasn't very many people that had their eyes on this particular piece of legislation, but it was like 45 pages long.
[28:45] Kim Monson: And when Senator Finberg sat down to present his bill, he said, we're just doing some modifications to our elections.
[28:55] Kim Monson: But one of the things in there is before this, in Colorado, 16-year-olds can be pre-registered to vote, which means the minute that they turn 18, that that will generate a ballot that will go to the address that they gave when they registered to vote.
[29:13] Kim Monson: This last piece of legislation changed that age to 15.
[29:15] Kim Monson: We should not be having these 15 and 60-year-olds pre-registering to vote, because I think that that could be a problem.
[29:25] Kim Monson: And so we need to fix many of the things that's happening with all of this.
[29:29] Kim Monson: And shedding light on all of this is one of the first things, and we do that every day or every weekday here at the Kim Monson Show.
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[32:14] Kim Monson: And so be sure and help them out this holiday season, make a contribution and honor our military.
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[32:46] Kim Monson: And these industries are under attack, regulatory attack, legislative attack here in Colorado.
[32:52] Kim Monson: And I wanted to talk with Bob Boswell about this because as I'm watching headlines, there's a new carbon management commission that's coming up with different rules.
[33:03] Kim Monson: One of our listeners had called in so concerned about that the other day after the show.
[33:07] Kim Monson: And so I wanted to talk with Bob about that.
[33:13] Kim Monson: I have a couple of headlines that are of great concern and they're connected Bob and this is from
[33:20] Kim Monson: News, and it was reported on December 9th.
[33:24] Kim Monson: It says Colorado's GDP fell to number 41 in the nation in 2024, a stark contrast from the state's high performance in prior years.
[33:34] Kim Monson: It said the 2025 Colorado Business Economic Outlook released shows slowing in nearly every metric of growth.
[33:42] Kim Monson: It says from 2008 to 2023, the state ranked number five in the nation for GDP.
[33:53] Kim Monson: This is from the Sum and Substance.
[33:55] Kim Monson: It says, study finds Colorado regulations among the highest in the nation costing jobs.
[34:02] Kim Monson: So I think the two are connected, Bob Boswell.
[34:06] Bob Boswell: In fact, I might encourage you and your other listeners to look at the new publication presented by the Colorado Chamber of Commerce.
[34:17] Bob Boswell: It's entitled the Regulation Impact Analysis Report of 2024.
[34:25] Bob Boswell: And the chamber undertook a study, hired four expert economists to look at the state of Colorado and what's happened, particularly in the last four years when the Democrats have had a super majority in both the House and the Senate.
[34:40] Bob Boswell: There's been over three times growth in the past four years in regulations.
[34:45] Bob Boswell: Colorado has some 50,000 regulations compared to a national average of 30,000 that directly affect industries, jobs, and employment.
[35:02] Bob Boswell: These past four years, the cost of these increased regulations has been a decline in the economy, as you pointed out.
[35:16] Bob Boswell: the general sector of the professionals, which adds about 30,000 years historically down to less than 5,000 currently.
[35:32] Bob Boswell: Most of the manufacturing, information, construction, pipeline jobs have lost jobs and are on track to lose jobs again this year.
[35:43] Bob Boswell: and we've gone from personal living standards where we were the third best in the nation to 39th.
[35:52] Bob Boswell: We had some 7%increase in regulations this past year compared to 1.
[36:00] Bob Boswell: So excessive regulation is having a devastating economic impact on the state, And that trend needs to be changed with a more balanced Senate and House, so that we can stop this influx of regulations.
[36:20] Bob Boswell: It's gotten to a point of being absurd.
[36:25] Kim Monson: And, Bob, I think you know I've got a volunteer gig as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[36:33] Kim Monson: And this is a good time to acknowledge these other board members because during the legislative session, we take a look at all of the bills that are scheduled for hearing.
[36:44] Kim Monson: And then anything that has to do with taxes, your pocketbook, property rights, we will review those and take a stand on them.
[36:53] Kim Monson: So I want to mention everybody quick.
[36:56] Kim Monson: Like this is Steve Dorman, Greg Golanski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honaker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, Wendy Warner,Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson and Mary Jansen.
[37:04] Kim Monson: These are volunteers that each week during the legislative session take time to review all of this.
[37:11] Kim Monson: And then we create an email that goes out to all the legislators and the governor regarding those positions.
[37:16] Kim Monson: But last year, Bob, over 700 pieces of legislation were introduced in Colorado.
[37:22] Kim Monson: and bigger and bigger government means a smaller and smaller opportunity for the individual.
[37:30] Kim Monson: And so we've got to get this turned around.
[37:34] Kim Monson: And one of the ways is to understand what's happening down at the statehouse.
[37:37] Kim Monson: And so, again, we'd recommend that people join us.
[37:39] Kim Monson: It's only 25 bucks to join the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[37:43] Kim Monson: But I say all that to say some good stuff did happen during this last election.
[37:53] Kim Monson: And it was a nail biter down in House District 16 in Colorado Springs where the Republican candidate, Rebecca Kelty, defeated a radical activist incumbent and by just three votes.
[38:10] Kim Monson: and when people think that it doesn't matter if you vote, it does matter if you vote because those three votes really help to protect Coloradans from a supermajority in both the House and Senate because if they had it, they could ram through everything they wanted to do.
[38:30] Bob Boswell: Well, and that's what they've done the last four years with the supermajority.
[38:34] Bob Boswell: So the fact that going forward they will not have that supermajority isn't critical because they won't be able to ram through these additional regulations, a lot of which are focused on the environment, many of which are unnecessary.
[38:51] Bob Boswell: This study by the Chamber of Commerce also said across the broad spectrum of regulations, not just the environment, 45% of those regulationsare dupli, resulting in delayed times of getting permits for construction and other projects.
[39:09] Bob Boswell: I heard a fact the other day that was talking about the Statue of Liberty.
[39:16] Bob Boswell: It took something like 48 months to construct.
[39:18] Bob Boswell: Today, to get a permit to construct something the equivalent of the Statue of Liberty would take seven years.
[39:28] Bob Boswell: And we've tied ourselves up, hurting our economy, creating poverty and losing jobs because of excessive regulation.
[39:35] Kim Monson: I ended up during, speaking of regulation, I ended up in a face- to- face debate withMayorMike Johnston on that affordable housing tax, which if that would have been approved by, and it was ostensibly for affordable housing, it would have made a Denver sales tax close to 10%.
[39:58] Kim Monson: And so one of the questions to me on that was, well, we need to make housing more affordable.
[40:10] Kim Monson: And there were different reports out by, I think, the Home Builders Association that 25% to 27% of thecost of anew build goes to regulations, and that's on single- family homes, and on multifamily units,it's 40%.
[40:24] Kim Monson: Well, Bob, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if we reduce those regulations, we can make housing more affordable immediately.
[40:34] Bob Boswell: And to try to put it on the back of the sales tax, which is regressive, 10% would approach California's type of taxinglevel, and the people that get hurt the most are those that can afford it the least.
[40:51] Bob Boswell: because that's an incremental tax on food and other elements that are necessary for every day of life.
[40:57] Bob Boswell: It's not necessarily luxury goods or anything else.
[41:03] Bob Boswell: This mayor is a huge disappointment to me living in the city of Denver, and it's time we get a change where we get mayors who really understand the economy and are just not politicians.
[41:16] Kim Monson: That's why these elections are so so important.
[41:21] Kim Monson: But the other thing, though, bob, is, it's so important also to be speaking truth into these issues, because the everyday people, I think they're just, they're trying to keep it together here.
[41:32] Kim Monson: They want to take care of their families and they want to go to their jobs or build their businesses.
[41:37] Kim Monson: And um, there's so much that comes at them, a lot of it.
[41:42] Kim Monson: I think it's just confusing, a lot of confusing information there.
[41:50] Kim Monson: So that's why it's so important that we try to get through all this and get to the truth on it.
[41:55] Kim Monson: And that's what we try to do every day here on the show.
[41:59] Kim Monson: And because this prosperity that we have loved and this property rights and all of this is under assault by this radical activist extreme agenda, which is really playing out right here in Colorado, Bob.
[42:15] Bob Boswell: That's why we need to have a balance in our legislative branches.
[42:22] Bob Boswell: And also, once we have that balance, we need to make sure that under the existing legislation, they can't just pile on more and more regulations.
[42:33] Bob Boswell: That's been one of the things they've done.
[42:35] Bob Boswell: I think people hopefully recognize that they're trying to subvert the Tabor Act, which was meant to control the level of taxation to keep new taxes from being put in place unless it had approval of the electorate, the people.
[42:51] Bob Boswell: And they're getting around that with what they call enterprise fees.
[42:59] Bob Boswell: They've issued some 20 enterprise fees to subvert the Tabor Act.
[43:04] Bob Boswell: And so what's being done by the government is wrong.
[43:08] Bob Boswell: It's hurting the lower income people in this state and things need to change.
[43:16] Kim Monson: And that's why we need to be shedding light on this.
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[46:17] Kim Monson: And I've been aghast, I would say, at watching what this Biden- Harris administration is doing on the wayout the door.
[46:26] Kim Monson: And we recently talked on the show about these billions of dollars that John Podesta in the administration had been bragging about, that they were getting over to green or renewable energy jobs.
[46:41] Kim Monson: Well, the green in this, what I've determined, is the green that's going into all of the cronies' pockets on all this, on these special interests.
[46:51] Kim Monson: And I had Daniel Turner with Power of the Future on earlier this week, And he said that one of the things this money is buying is golden parachutes for those that are in the administration, so that they will get jobs in these different companies that are getting the money.
[47:09] Kim Monson: And, boy, that's a great concern to me, Bob Boswell.
[47:15] Kim Monson: Well, I think you see that in a number of factors.
[47:20] Bob Boswell: It also shows the duplicious nature of some of our leaders.
[47:23] Bob Boswell: The biggest example is Biden saying he would not do anything to release his son from the charges that have been brought against him.
[47:41] Bob Boswell: And they're doing this across the board, trying to dole out money before they leave to special interest to curry their favor.
[47:48] Bob Boswell: And as you pointed out, often result in jobs in the different industries, defense industry, and in this case, a lot of the green, where they have taken billions of dollars going into renewable projects, many of which we have evidence have not been successful, both on the wind and the solar side.
[48:11] Bob Boswell: Some have been, and it's a compliment, but it's not a replacement.
[48:15] Bob Boswell: And we are actually raising the cost of energy to the country, as opposed to lowering it through the doubling out of these excessive amount of dollars into these green projects.
[48:27] Kim Monson: So, Bob Boswell, are you encouraged from what you're seeing or with your ear to the ground regarding the incoming Trump administration?
[48:37] Bob Boswell: I think the pendulum is swinging and we're going to go back to hopefully a more moderate balanced type of legislature, balanced type of approach to the economy.
[48:50] Bob Boswell: I think Trump very appropriately is coming in, is appointing skilled positions, people who present strong leadership, and hopefully we'll be able to get some of the heirs in the past four years turned around and headed the nation back in the right direction without the excessive government, not only regulation, but largesse that we're seeing.
[49:20] Bob Boswell: as the Biden administration leaves office.
[49:23] Bob Boswell: Next thing, Bob Boswell, is the Biden administration or the O.
[49:29] Kim Monson: Biden- Harris administration drained our strategic oil reserves.
[49:33] Kim Monson: And having those full is really important for our national defense and our security.
[49:41] Kim Monson: And with prices down for gas at the gas pump, I would hope that the incoming administration is going to take that opportunity to fill those strategic reserves back up.
[50:00] Kim Monson: thing with your ear to the ground on that?
[50:02] Bob Boswell: No, I think it's certainly an objective.
[50:10] Bob Boswell: It's something we need to have in place, simply because of what we're seeing that's happening in the Middle East.
[50:13] Bob Boswell: But I am optimistic that under the Trump administration, that some of the various factions in the Middle East will be a reconciliation.
[50:26] Bob Boswell: We'll have strength that will be recognized and we'll use that strength in a constructive way to hopefully ameliorate some of those contentious issues that we're seeing in the Middle East.
[50:41] Bob Boswell: So I'm optimistic on that front that we're going to go into more peaceful times, and it's peace through strength.
[50:58] Kim Monson: It's been rumored that um jared polis uh, would like to run for president and with when we're talking about these onerous regulations here in colorado and that our gdp is is near the bottom now, uh he and and mike johnston, mayor of denver, I feel that they're, they're running our state into the ground because of this radical activist agenda that they have been pushing.
[51:25] Kim Monson: But then you're seeing Jared Polis try to portray himself as more as a centrist.
[51:31] Kim Monson: So do you have any thoughts about that?
[51:36] Bob Boswell: Well, I think he sees where the winds are blowing.
[51:39] Bob Boswell: Governor Polis is a very bright individual, and I think maybe his politics are shifting to more align with what he sees as a centrist movement.
[51:49] Bob Boswell: Whether he would be a good candidate for president, I would leave that up to the people.
[51:56] Bob Boswell: But from my vantage point and the history, you may have a wolf in sheep's clothing there when it comes to regulations and government, size of the government, things like that.
[52:09] Bob Boswell: But I think he is moving more towards the middle, but then his term's just about up.
[52:18] Bob Boswell: I suspect he'll be running for some office.
[52:23] Kim Monson: And so with that, I think this next legislative session will be very telling, because as we watch this legislation with the colorado union taxpayers, as we watch that is that whatever is passed by the house and senate and gets to his desk, he can, he can sign it, he can veto it, or if he doesn't sign it, but it just sits there after a certain amount of time it also becomes law.
[52:50] Kim Monson: And so I think it'll be really telling on what we see that is proposed.
[52:55] Kim Monson: Someone that's very active down at the state house had said that that Jared Polis is really the head of the Democrat Party.
[53:03] Kim Monson: And so the agenda that we have seen has been his agenda.
[53:09] Kim Monson: I think he's very bright politician.
[53:11] Kim Monson: I think that he has effective handlers that are effective in the messaging.
[53:18] Kim Monson: So I think we'll see his rhetoric at least move to the middle.
[53:23] Kim Monson: But I think it'll be very telling to see what happens this next legislative session, Bob.
[53:31] Bob Boswell: I think that in particular will be telling to see as he goes out how he leaves.
[53:38] Bob Boswell: You know, the other thing you mentioned, the mayor, and the mayor has been a disaster.
[53:45] Bob Boswell: His position on Sanctuary City is not good for the city.
[53:51] Bob Boswell: We've got the highest number of illegal immigrants per any sanctuary city in the country.
[53:58] Bob Boswell: We've got issues associated with housing.
[54:01] Bob Boswell: We're having taxpayer funds subverted into supporting these illegal immigrants.
[54:07] Bob Boswell: many of which should be deported just because of criminal backgrounds and things of that nature.
[54:16] Bob Boswell: So they set us up for a disaster, and he continues to endorse it.
[54:19] Bob Boswell: And it's just beyond comprehension as to how he could continue with his same type of woke, liberal running of the city.
[54:36] Kim Monson: It's unbelievable really that, uh, that these people that have come here, that, uh, we don't, we don't know who they are, and uh, if they're here to hurt us or if they're here for free stuff, um it's.
[54:50] Kim Monson: It's really un, it's unbelievable and it's very irresponsible.
[54:53] Kim Monson: I don't fly very much anymore these days, but I had recently been on an airplane and of course, American citizens have to show ID and they want to take your picture and you have to stand in line and go through TSA.
[55:08] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking, how is it that and we have to pay for expensive tickets as well.
[55:13] Kim Monson: But how is it that we Americans have to do this?
[55:15] Kim Monson: But yet the reports of illegals being flown all over the country without ID, without knowing who they are.
[55:23] Kim Monson: It's almost like these radical activists, extremists don't like Americans, but they like everybody else.
[55:31] Kim Monson: And we've been seeing that play out right here in Colorado.
[55:37] Kim Monson: What's the final thought you'd like to leave with our listeners?
[55:40] Bob Boswell: Well, I think, you know, elections matter.
[55:42] Bob Boswell: And unfortunately, we've been on a trend in the past several years of liberalization, wokeness, things of that.
[55:52] Bob Boswell: And I believe in empathy and sympathy for those less fortunate than us.
[55:57] Bob Boswell: But we can't afford, we need to put America first and take care of ourselves.
[56:02] Bob Boswell: And we should have immigration, but people need to come in legally.
[56:08] Bob Boswell: And I think things are starting to move in a positive direction for the American people.
[56:15] Bob Boswell: We just need to keep pushing the right ideas.
[56:20] Kim Monson: Bob Boswell, thank you so much, and elections matter, and we're going to be working very hard on elections here in Colorado.
[56:27] Kim Monson: So, Bob Boswell, thanks so much, and I'm going to see you later today.
[56:33] Kim Monson: I did want to mention the Center for American Values located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk.
[56:38] Kim Monson: It is just really a very important place.
[56:42] Kim Monson: Recommend that you put it on your bucket list to check that out sometime with the family over the holiday time.
[56:51] Kim Monson: And I would say a day trip would be great.
[56:56] Kim Monson: And there's great restaurants there on the Riverwalk.
[56:58] Kim Monson: And so make that something that you're going to do.
[57:00] Kim Monson: That website is AmericanValueCenter.
[57:03] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is from Milton Friedman.
[57:05] Kim Monson: He said, the essential notion of a capitalist society is voluntary cooperation, voluntary exchange.
[57:12] Kim Monson: The essential notion of a socialist society is force.
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[61:34] Kim Monson: And we have a real opportunity with the Donald Trump administration.
[61:38] Kim Monson: If we had continued down this O'Biden-Harrismovement, if you will, we were in a very difficult situation.
[61:51] Kim Monson: But, my friends, what we're going to see is that radical activist extreme agenda, instead of being at the national level, we're going to see it drill down to our local, county, and state governments.
[62:07] Kim Monson: And so that's why we need to be very vigilant and very active in watching what's going on.
[62:13] Kim Monson: And I'd like to not quite know what this will look like exactly, but we're going to start Doge Colorado, which is inspired by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy.
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[62:40] Kim Monson: And we as citizens, we need to incorporate that in Doge, Colorado.
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[62:46] Kim Monson: I think we've got an opportunity the next 18 months.
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[62:51] Kim Monson: And we've got to be engaged in conversations and helping people understand what is going on.
[62:57] Kim Monson: So with that, our word of the day is very appropriate, as we had talked with Bob Boswell about all of these regulations, onerous regulations.
[63:10] Kim Monson: And the first definition could be involving, imposing, or constituting a burden, troublesome, such as onerous regulations.
[63:20] Kim Monson: And these regulations, we are seeing it play out in the headlines that Colorado's GDP is number, was it 41 or 46 in the nation?
[63:32] Kim Monson: Pretty low because we used to be at the top.
[63:35] Kim Monson: But as we see these onerous regulations and onerous legislation, what happens is we're now seeing the effect.
[63:44] Kim Monson: And so what they say they want to do with this legislation and these regulations and what actually happens are two different things.
[63:56] Kim Monson: The other thing is is the radical activist extremists.
[63:58] Kim Monson: They really want to take down our western way of life, uh, the western, um, the the american idea of limited government, uh, that all men are created equal with rights from god of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
[64:14] Kim Monson: They want to take that down and those people are, um, in positions of power throughout colorado.
[64:21] Kim Monson: And so we've got the next 18 months, we've got a lot of work to do.
[64:25] Kim Monson: So your challenge, the number two definition of onerous is having legal obligations that outweigh the advantages.
[64:33] Kim Monson: And you should be able to use the word onerous in a sentence today.
[64:37] Kim Monson: Milton Friedman is our quote of the day.
[64:41] Kim Monson: He's an economist, was born in 1912, died in 2006.
[64:44] Kim Monson: And he ended up, he rejected Keynesianism, which is the economic theory of more and more debt and government spending that they believe could stimulate the economy.
[65:05] Kim Monson: And so Milton Friedman, he talked about monetarism in the mid- 70s,and it turned to new classical macroeconomics heavily based on the concept of rational expectations.
[65:20] Kim Monson: And he said this, he said, corruption is government intrusion into market efficiencies in the form of regulations.
[65:28] Kim Monson: And again, that is Milton Friedman.
[65:32] Kim Monson: So some of the headlines that we had talked about is, first of all, the Heisman Trophy will be awarded this Saturday in New York City.
[65:42] Kim Monson: And CU Buffalo player Travis Hunter is one of the three finalists.
[65:49] Kim Monson: And Colonel Rutledge, 96 years young, a retired United States Air Force, has really been excited about this.
[65:57] Kim Monson: And he said he is such an amazing player.
[66:00] Kim Monson: He plays both offense and defense, and he is the favorite to win.
[66:04] Kim Monson: And so that would be a really big deal for CU.
[66:10] Kim Monson: I mentioned the soldiers at Fort Carson.
[66:12] Kim Monson: And let's see, we talked about, oh, there was one other headline that I'd wanted to get to.
[66:22] Kim Monson: The globalists really do not want us to have freedom of mobility.
[66:26] Kim Monson: and we talk with Lauren Fix on a regular basis regarding this.
[66:31] Kim Monson: They would really like us to be riding around on trains, buses, bicycles, walking.
[66:40] Kim Monson: And it says this is just from Colorado.
[66:43] Kim Monson: It says Denver transit costs continue to rise as ride ridership fails to recover post COVID.
[66:54] Kim Monson: And so what I think we're going to start to see is that there may be more incentives, if you will, or more force to try to get people to ride these trains.
[67:04] Kim Monson: But the trains are dirty and they're dangerous, and people really prefer the safety and comfort of their own personal vehicle and are willing to sit in traffic in order to enjoy that.
[67:19] Kim Monson: And so you'll see the PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties, they want to make it or they're trying to make it more and more uncomfortable for us to be in our personal vehicles.
[67:27] Kim Monson: They want to make it more expensive through higher gas prices.
[67:31] Kim Monson: But this is from the center square.
[67:32] Kim Monson: It says Denver's transit system continues to face financial challenges, even as it moves forward with expansion programs.
[67:39] Kim Monson: According to RTD, the Regional Transportation District, the system maintains a strong near-term outlook.
[67:46] Kim Monson: Yet, like many other transits throughout the country, which have seen little recovery in ridership since the COVID-19 pandemic, RTD ridership in 2023 was less than two-thirds of the pre-pandemic level, and that wasn't even that high.
[68:01] Kim Monson: And it says, unlike other transits, RTD's ridership has been declining since 2014 when it was 5%higher in 2019.
[68:08] Kim Monson: It says in 2021, the transit, which includes buses, rail, and on- demandservices, reported 50 million annual boardings.
[68:17] Kim Monson: Okay, that is another thing I learned when I was on city council.
[68:23] Kim Monson: So in essence, probably people are normally having round trips if they're riding the train or buses.
[68:30] Kim Monson: And so the real number would probably be half of that.
[68:34] Kim Monson: But it's a way that you'll see PBIs that they try to skew the message.
[68:39] Kim Monson: It says in 2023, that number had increased to 65 million annual boardings.
[68:49] Kim Monson: We're going to have to watch what's happening with RTD.
[68:51] Kim Monson: And the cost of ridership, your ticket, typically only at that, when I was on city council, only covered maybe 20% ofthe fare.
[69:13] Kim Monson: Everything else was coming from government grants and sales taxes.
[69:21] Kim Monson: And, as Bob Boswell said in the first hour, sales taxes are regressive, because it means the people that can least afford to pay them are the ones that have to pay a larger portion of their money towards sales taxes.
[69:22] Kim Monson: And so we're going to have to stay tuned on all of this.
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[72:54] Kim Monson: She also writes amazing essays that we are honored to publish at the Kim Monson Show.
[73:07] Kim Monson: And these are always so interesting, the best and the worst of Colorado politics.
[73:13] Kim Monson: But before we do that, first of all, thank you for doing the research of all the contact information who we need to reach out to to get this food situation corrected down at Fort Carson.
[73:31] Kim Monson: And that will go out today in an email.
[73:34] Kim Monson: and we need to take action because our young soldiers, and this is hurting our young soldiers, our newest soldiers the most, and we cannot sit by and be enjoying the holiday season knowing that our soldiers are not being fed properly.
[73:54] Kim Monson: So that will be going out later today.
[73:56] Kim Monson: Pam, you also sent over a text message, I think it was this week, regarding the CDPHE and firearms, and you called it.
[74:09] Pam Long: Well, if you've been a watchdog for the health department like I have for the past 10 years, you see patterns, and they're very predictable.
[74:17] Pam Long: And I predicted, I think it was last year on your show, that because there was this heavy emphasis during COVID and after COVID for students to be enrolling in online, quasi- therapy typeprograms like I Matter and Healthy Kids Colorado.
[74:38] Pam Long: These are not actually therapy.
[74:39] Pam Long: These are data mining operations.
[74:42] Pam Long: And I think there was a third one that these were traps, right, that these were actually going to work in conjunction with CDPHE's new, quiet office of, I call it the Office of Gun Control.
[74:56] Pam Long: I think the real name is Office of Gun Violence Prevention, that the two programs would eventually merge to restrict people's gun ownership rights under the Second Amendment.
[75:07] Pam Long: And that's, we have a rumor right now from good sources that we will see a bill this session in 2025, and I encourage everyone to engage at the state capitol, to restrict gun ownership from anyone who's ever engaged in therapy, However they define that, I see it coming to fruition this legislative session.
[75:30] Kim Monson: And I think I saw that it's possibly Kathy Kipp, out of northern Colorado that might be sponsoring that legislation.
[75:42] Pam Long: I won't specifically name the potential bill sponsor, but I will say most of our problems are coming out of Larimer County's elected officials.
[75:54] Pam Long: They buy into all the agendas, and if I could just kind of poke the bear of our Larimer County listeners, you need to be watching the legislation they introduced starting now.
[76:07] Pam Long: Ask them what is coming, because the bills are already written.
[76:12] Kim Monson: And also on the local level, Yvonne Paez had shed light on this regarding, and a number of our listeners had reached out about it as well, is Fort Collins.
[76:23] Kim Monson: and this preferred trash provider, they're saying, well, yes, we can have competition.
[76:30] Kim Monson: But what they're saying is the city has chosen who the trash provider will be.
[76:34] Kim Monson: And if you don't use that trash provider or if you don't need that trash provider, you still have to pay a fee for that.
[76:42] Kim Monson: You can still pay your other trash provider.
[76:44] Kim Monson: And so Yvonne had a, and she's a co- founder ofPerspectives 101, she had a town hall on that.
[76:51] Kim Monson: People are really concerned about it.
[76:54] Kim Monson: But ultimately, I think what's going to happen with this agenda is it comes out of the globalist elites is they don't want humans to live life and create any trash.
[77:05] Kim Monson: And so if you can get to a point where government controls the trash haulers, I think that's the next step.
[77:11] Kim Monson: And so if you work from home and you might produce more trash because you work from home, or if you have a larger family, which will create more trash, then you might have to pay higher onerous fees for that.
[77:27] Kim Monson: Do you think I'm tin hat or what do you think on that, Pam Long?
[77:32] Kim Monson: And if you think I'm tin hat, it won't hurt my feelings.
[77:35] Pam Long: No, this is exactly the pattern we're seeing.
[77:38] Pam Long: As the president cut, how many of the 700 bills that you reviewed this past session, which is onerous, how many of them were the government interfering in private, local affairs, private businesses and local affairs trying to create incentives to go with a government program and then sanctions for people who do not go along with the government?
[78:02] Pam Long: I mean, it was a very high percentage of bills.
[78:04] Pam Long: They were either trying government takeover of what should be the private business sector or offering these grants and tax cuts for very small interest groups.
[78:15] Pam Long: I would say that covers about 99 percent of the bills introduced this past session.
[78:21] Kim Monson: Well, and then when we were talking with Bob Boswell to see how this plays out is that Colorado's GDP.
[78:30] Kim Monson: I got too many different things open now.
[78:32] Kim Monson: But we used to be in the top regarding all the states' GDP, and we are now near the bottom.
[78:38] Kim Monson: But yet we're near the top regarding regulations.
[78:43] Kim Monson: Government isn't there to help you.
[78:45] Kim Monson: Government ultimately is going to make things worse for you when they get out of the proper role of government, out of their proper lane, Pam.
[78:52] Pam Long: And how many businesses are no longer wanting to come to Colorado because, even with like, the Colorado Sun reported that we offered one point: four, five billion dollars for new businesses and incentives.
[79:08] Pam Long: And the uptake was about five percent of that was claimed, even with incentives now to attract new business, because we're losing new businesses to other states that have a better economy and less regulation.
[79:21] Pam Long: Business are saying, no, thanks.
[79:23] Pam Long: We don't want to come to Colorado.
[79:25] Pam Long: We know exactly what what your your government is doing to businesses.
[79:29] Kim Monson: OK, I found the article and Colorado's GDP fell to number 41 in the nation.
[79:35] Kim Monson: The other thing is, is, again, government incentives are a form of force because it's coercion.
[79:42] Kim Monson: And you see these economic development offices in the local, the county and the state level.
[79:50] Kim Monson: And when I was on city council initially, I thought, oh, my gosh, I love the idea of economic development.
[79:57] Kim Monson: Well, what I've figured out, though, government economic development means that your PBIs are picking winners and losers, those that have to play by all the rules and those that don't.
[80:09] Kim Monson: And then what happens is where we are now in Colorado, number 41 in the nation in 2024.
[80:16] Kim Monson: So I tell you what, we're going to go to break early, Pam, because I want to give, you know, full, it's a great segue into your essay, The Best and the Worst of Colorado Politics.
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[83:47] Kim Monson: And she is also the director of the Children's Health Defense Military Chapter, a graduate of West Point, former Army veteran of the Medical Service Corps.
[83:57] Kim Monson: And she served as a medical intelligence officer for NATO stabilization forces.
[84:03] Kim Monson: She has really been a watchdog regarding health force, I would say, here in Colorado for many years.
[84:13] Kim Monson: And she always does this great essay at the end of the year, The Best and the Worst of Colorado Politics 2024.
[84:23] Pam Long: Where do you want to start?
[84:24] Pam Long: The most important issues to voters this year were homelessness, housing costs, immigration, cost of living, taxes, crime, and the economy.
[84:33] Kim Monson: And all of the these things that people are concerned about has onerous government effects on all of them.
[84:47] Pam Long: Well, let's just take immigration, I think, because we had this entire migrant crisis play out, um, for the, the ideology in the reality right.
[85:01] Pam Long: So going into 2024, the Denver Mayor, Mayor Johnston, announced he would spend$ 45 million for 1,000 migrants to put in shelter and receive services.
[85:15] Pam Long: That is$ 45,000 per migrant.
[85:18] Pam Long: In comparison, our state is paying about$ 9,000 to educate our students.
[85:25] Pam Long: But our migrants were given$ 45,000 in support upon illegal entry into the Denver area.
[85:33] Pam Long: Let's throw out some other figures that are just staggering.
[85:38] Pam Long: The Denver mayor committed to$ 15 million per month, for a forecast of$ 180 million for the year for what he was calling a humanitarian mission and our obligation for shared sacrifice.
[85:53] Pam Long: Let me show you how that shared sacrifice played out for taxpayers.
[85:58] Pam Long: A cut to the fire department by$ 2.
[85:59] Pam Long: 5 million, cut to the police department by$ 8.
[86:02] Pam Long: 5 million, cut to the sheriff's office by$ 3.
[86:08] Pam Long: And our health services were overrun.
[86:10] Pam Long: Denver Health reported$ 135 million in uncompensated care for migrants.
[86:16] Pam Long: UC Health reported$ 580 million in uncompensated care for migrants and the uninsured from the previous year.
[86:27] Pam Long: And our nonprofits were strained to the max.
[86:30] Pam Long: Aurora nonprofits reported serving 325 families a day at food pantries.
[86:37] Pam Long: Other churches shut down trying to host just makeshift shelters for up to 200 people.
[86:44] Pam Long: Not enough resources or volunteers to make that sustainable, and the denver public schools reported 14 million dollars in shortfall due to the 200 to 300 migrant students added to their to their school populations.
[87:00] Pam Long: After student count and funding.
[87:03] Pam Long: It ultimately denver spent 120 million dollars and this complete program failed.
[87:12] Pam Long: It was not compassionate to bring people to a cold climate without resources.
[87:17] Pam Long: And the mayor's office, even in the, by April, was announcing, please leave Denver.
[87:24] Pam Long: We will transport you out of Denver because there's too much suffering and no opportunity here.
[87:30] Kim Monson: It's really, it's really unconscionable what has happened.
[87:34] Kim Monson: And again, it's all because of bad public policy.
[87:37] Kim Monson: But what would you say is the best immigration response plan?
[87:41] Pam Long: So the immigration experts at the border, you know, near in Texas, they all agree that the states who received the most migrants had a pull factor.
[87:51] Pam Long: Pull factor is offering free housing, food, shelter, transportation to migrants.
[87:58] Pam Long: And Denver advertised that pull factor.
[88:04] Pam Long: And so communities like Douglas County made a very public resolution to mitigate the pull factor, saying that they passed an ordinance saying that prohibited commercial buses from dropping off passengers in unscheduled locations with a fine of up to$ 1,000 per incident.
[88:24] Pam Long: And this was a very effective and clever policy because, remember, there's two laws in Colorado from 2019 and 2023 under the Polis administration that prohibit local governments from working with a federal immigration enforcement in detention.
[88:42] Pam Long: So their hands are tied in many ways that needs to be legally challenged.
[88:47] Pam Long: And I mean, that is complete corruption.
[88:51] Pam Long: So the counties who said we are not sanctuary cities, do not come here, we will enforce our local laws.
[88:58] Pam Long: Those counties did not see the crime and the exhaustion of public resources.
[89:05] Pam Long: We're talking Denver cut the DMV services to its taxpayers.
[89:09] Pam Long: It cut parks and rec for its youth.
[89:12] Pam Long: The city, she declared, we are not sanctuary cities.
[89:15] Pam Long: Our citizens come first priority.
[89:18] Pam Long: They are not second-class citizens to migrants.
[89:21] Pam Long: Those are the counties and cities that won in 2024.
[89:24] Kim Monson: Well, and as you're talking about that, those that are pushing policies such as Mike Johnston's, they try to make Americans feel badly when we just want to keep our community safe.
[89:39] Kim Monson: We want to keep more of our money to take care of our families.
[89:42] Kim Monson: And the analogy of if you're on an airplane, you've got to make sure that your oxygen mask is on correctly.
[89:51] Kim Monson: Otherwise, you can't help people around you.
[89:53] Kim Monson: And And it's basically like they're trying to take the oxygen mask and give it to everybody else.
[90:01] Kim Monson: So you've done a great job on shedding light on that.
[90:06] Pam Long: So before this surge of 40,000 migrants to Denver in 2024, which, by the way, was the largest per capita, you know, number of migrants than any other major U.
[90:21] Pam Long: So I guess we can, you know, we can say, look, we tested the limits of humanitarian, alleged humanitarian relief, and it failed.
[90:30] Pam Long: It was completely unsustainable.
[90:32] Pam Long: But before all this, we did, Denver had up to 9,000 homeless people in the prior year, 2023.
[90:40] Pam Long: So Denver created this Denver Basic Income Project to give cash to homeless people.
[90:46] Pam Long: I can't even believe I'm saying this.
[90:48] Pam Long: Like, this is so fiscally irresponsible.
[90:52] Pam Long: 5 million to 800 people in three different payment strategies, ranging from$ 50 to$ 1,000 per month.
[91:02] Pam Long: And now there was a mid-project about six months into this 12-month study, pilot program, whatever you want to call it, indicated a 30%increase in people living in homes.
[91:13] Pam Long: Now, however, we have no idea how this has played out in the latter six months.
[91:18] Pam Long: This is not a long- termsolution.
[91:20] Pam Long: The benefit of this program is completely unmeasured in cost- benefiteffectiveness.
[91:27] Pam Long: This program has no restrictions or requirements on how people spend the money.
[91:32] Pam Long: They don't have to spend it on rent.
[91:33] Pam Long: So I would say, you know, the majority of our homeless population have drug and alcohol addictions which interfere with employment.
[91:45] Pam Long: This program does not address that.
[91:47] Pam Long: It does not give job skills to homeless people.
[91:51] Pam Long: There is no measure of this program that says it's effective or the cost benefit justifies continuing the program.
[92:02] Kim Monson: Well, and but there were there was a best homelessness policy as well.
[92:08] Pam Long: So the research overwhelming and the worry.
[92:12] Pam Long: Our governor and our elected leaders are not using data and research to make decisions.
[92:18] Pam Long: Long term research supports that to build resilience in people, they have to have some form of productivity in society.
[92:29] Pam Long: This is studied in all sorts of populations, homeless, addiction, veterans with PTSD.
[92:34] Pam Long: You know, this is kind of, you know, my field in mental health, that purposeful work in society could be as simple as, you know, walking your dog or your neighbor's dog.
[92:45] Pam Long: Those are like, you know, just doing something that has purpose and meaning.
[92:50] Pam Long: So I found a faith- basedprogram at the Denver Rescue Mission Harvest Farm, which allows men to live in a pure house if they work on a farm and remain sober.
[93:01] Pam Long: Programs like this are effective because they bring in those components of accountability, responsibility, and that eventually lead people who are in crisis to gain the skills to financial independence.
[93:18] Pam Long: And Pam, I really believe so.
[93:25] Kim Monson: Mike Johnson wants to say giving all this stuff away, and that means you can't give something to somebody that you haven't taken away from somebody else first, but he is trying to say that this is compassionate.
[93:38] Kim Monson: I think that the most compassionate thing that one man can give to another is a job and the dignity of work, and so this program with the Denver Rescue Mission, Harvest Farm.
[93:50] Kim Monson: There's dignity in knowing that you are earning something that you will be receiving value in return for.
[94:05] Kim Monson: And I think it's important to drill down on that.
[94:09] Pam Long: And accountability is the piece, too.
[94:12] Pam Long: Aurora passed a tough love program called the HEART Program, Housing, Employment, Addiction, Recovery, and Teamwork.
[94:18] Pam Long: This is a great concept of blending accountability with compassion, where homeless people who, you know, tend to engage in panhandling and low- leveloffenses of theft, this program, once enrolled, the person is put on a probation until they complete the program, and then the charges are dropped.
[94:42] Pam Long: But while they're in this program, they are getting help to get back on their feet, right?
[94:51] Pam Long: They're being offered services to get off the streets and job skills and all the programs that are available to them, so that they will become productive members of society, which every man and woman wants.
[95:00] Pam Long: No one wants to be homeless.
[95:02] Pam Long: Sometimes we just need to help people access the resources that are available.
[95:07] Pam Long: Handouts are not a long- termstrategy.
[95:13] Kim Monson: And again, the dignity of work, the dignity of trading value for value is really, it's so important.
[95:23] Kim Monson: And Pam, in your essay, you have links to back up all of this information.
[95:28] Kim Monson: And again, as we're going into the holiday season, I think it's good that people are informed on these critical issues so that they can engage in thoughtful and reasonable conversations about this.
[95:41] Pam Long: So the worst crime policy is ignoring crime.
[95:46] Pam Long: That is also documented in decades of research, a lot of it coming out of New York City.
[95:53] Pam Long: And the New York Post reported Governor Jerry Polis ignoring crime.
[96:00] Pam Long: And this made national news.
[96:01] Pam Long: And this is an embarrassment to the state of Colorado, where the city council members and the mayor of Aurora were reporting to their governor the problems with the Venezuelan gang taking over these apartment buildings.
[96:17] Pam Long: And the governor polis basically said this is their imagination.
[96:22] Pam Long: You know, this is our governor gaslighting the people he, you know, he was elected to serve.
[96:32] Pam Long: And so what we had is we had video footage, police reports, all of this evidence that it was happening in our governor gaslighting our local leaders.
[96:42] Pam Long: And this particular building, Mayor Kaufman said, was funded for migrant housing.
[96:49] Pam Long: It goes right back to another bad policy of, you know, Denver, you know, humanitarian mission, alleged humanitarian mission to house the migrants created a gang running apartment buildings in Aurora, in our state, in America.
[97:07] Pam Long: This is like, I can't even wrap my head around this happened in our state and in our country.
[97:13] Pam Long: And then when the New York Post, you know, asked for a statement from the governor's office, the Post's spokesperson responded to the New York Post saying, well, the governor really hopes that the city council members in charge stop trashing their own city when they are supposed to keep it safe.
[97:29] Pam Long: This is an appalling gaslighting, and there were confirmed Venezuelan gangs in Aurora, migrants who illegally entered into this country, and that is a terrible policy for crime.
[97:45] Kim Monson: Well, and we had Danielle Jarenski on, who is the Aurora City Councilwoman, who really, I would say, broke this story or broke this issue.
[97:55] Kim Monson: And it is unbelievable how this whole thing has played out in Aurora.
[98:02] Kim Monson: But it looks like that they're, you know, shedding light on it is important.
[98:06] Kim Monson: And I think that we're going to be working forward or moving forward and get this addressed.
[98:11] Kim Monson: Trump certainly is, and he's focused on Aurora as Operation Aurora regarding all of this illegal immigration here in America, Pam Long.
[98:23] Pam Long: We have a lot to be hopeful and praying for in 2025.
[98:30] Kim Monson: I'm talking with Pam Long, and we will take call- insas well.
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[102:06] Kim Monson: Pam Long is on the line, and she has a really important essay that I would highly recommend, and it is The Best and the Worst of Colorado Politics 2024.
[102:15] Kim Monson: and she is the director of Children's Health Defense Military Chapter, a graduate of West Point, a former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps.
[102:27] Kim Monson: And so she's on the line and we've got Nancy as a caller and she had something that she wanted to comment on.
[102:34] Nancy (caller): Thank you.
[102:36] Nancy (caller): I assume you can hear me.
[102:37] Nancy (caller): Okay.
[102:41] Nancy (caller): I just have, I guess, a question for Pam.
[102:45] Nancy (caller): You know, I'm someone who tries to follow what's going on at the legislature.
[102:50] Nancy (caller): There's so many bills.
[102:53] Nancy (caller): And I also live in Larimer County, and I'd like to figure out how best to work with my local legislators, even though we're on different sides of the aisle, and how to keep track of these bills.
[103:06] Nancy (caller): Like, do I just look them, like, right now, before the session starts, how do I find out what they're coming up with?
[103:18] Kim Monson: First of all, Nancy, I would recommend that you join CUT, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[103:24] Kim Monson: It's only$ 25, and we have a team of volunteers that goes through the legislation, and we will rate things regarding things that affect our taxes or our property rights.
[103:36] Kim Monson: So that's a really excellent place to start with.
[103:38] Kim Monson: And then also you can go to the state legislature website, and you can find the bills that are scheduled for hearing for the week.
[103:48] Kim Monson: But I really would recommend people engage with us at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[103:56] Pam Long: I second the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[103:58] Pam Long: I benefit from their information.
[104:01] Pam Long: My hot tip, my insider tip for Nancy would be, so these legislators are writing the bills now in November and December with their special interest groups, and then they pretend in January when they introduced them that there was some stakeholder process where, you know, the public was invited to have input as required by our laws in the Administrative Procedure Act, which is clearly not happening on 99%of these bills.
[104:29] Pam Long: So, because we know this is happening, we can go to our state representatives and our state senators in December, meet them for coffee, you know, have a phone call, meet them up someplace locally and say, hey, what are your bills?
[104:43] Pam Long: We know they're already drafted.
[104:45] Pam Long: And don't limit yourself to your, you know, your district representatives and senators.
[104:53] Pam Long: I care about public health.
[104:55] Pam Long: So all those people who keep running these horrible public health bills who are influenced by, you know,$ 70 million in lobbyists at the Capitol, I go to those people like Kyle Mullica and say, hey, what bills are you running this year?
[105:10] Pam Long: And there are ways to extract that kind of information out of them and put them on the spot and say, look, you might not be my elected representative or senator, but what you do in this in the people's house affects me and every person in this state.
[105:23] Pam Long: So we will have this conversation.
[105:24] Pam Long: Pam, that's an excellent point.
[105:27] Kim Monson: And Nancy, This just made me think about this.
[105:30] Kim Monson: When I was on city council, 2012 to 2016, and many of these city councils, they get to a point where they just want a rubber stamp of these agendas.
[105:41] Kim Monson: And the study session is where a lot is revealed on the agendas.
[105:45] Kim Monson: And so we would get our packet typically, oh, I want to say on Thursday, I think, for a Tuesday meeting.
[105:54] Kim Monson: And so I'd have the weekend to go through the packet, and it might be hundreds of pages long.
[105:59] Kim Monson: And what I finally realized then, and there might be agendas out there that I didn't understand might be presented, because they many times wouldn't let me know because they realized that I wasn't going to rubber stamp stuff.
[106:15] Kim Monson: And so I finally got to a point where I would meet with the city manager once a week, either phone call or in person, and I'd go through the packet and then I'd say, and what else do I need to know?
[106:27] Kim Monson: And so that way I was able to, if they didn't tell me and then I was surprised, it was not because I hadn't asked.
[106:35] Kim Monson: So, Pam, what do you think about that strategy as well when you're talking with your city council men and women and your county commissioners?
[106:43] Kim Monson: It's like, what else do you have up your sleeve?
[106:46] Pam Long: That's just a great strategy.
[106:47] Pam Long: And without saying too much, I have employed that strategy myself where, okay, I'm just going to say it because this is the times we live in.
[106:56] Pam Long: Everyone needs to be equipped.
[106:57] Pam Long: I really care about public health, but then I get wind of someone running a terrible bill on public health that I know they won't talk to me about.
[107:06] Pam Long: So I will go and talk to them about another bill they're running that maybe I support.
[107:09] Pam Long: Maybe it's actually like a good bill about education, let's say.
[107:15] Pam Long: And I say, you know, we have common ground on education.
[107:17] Pam Long: And then I say, well, what else are you running?
[107:21] Pam Long: And you can tell, you can make them squirm that they, you know, maybe they've gotten comfortable with you.
[107:27] Pam Long: Maybe they don't want to tell you about that public health bill they're running.
[107:29] Pam Long: But, you know, now they're chatting.
[107:32] Pam Long: Now they're talking to you and that you're going to pull out the details of the bill they didn't want to talk about.
[107:36] Pam Long: So, Nancy, what do you think?
[107:39] Kim Monson: Are those a couple of strategies that can help?
[107:43] Nancy (caller): You know, I'm a little late to the plate here with the January starting up down at the legislature, but these are great ideas.
[107:53] Nancy (caller): And I will, you know, see what I can do to employ them.
[107:59] Nancy (caller): The other thing I found that's just really helpful, if you can build a relationship with one legislator, you know, So they often will then, no matter whether you agree with them all the time or not, but if you can build trust with one, sometimes they'll let you in on some of the other things that are happening.
[108:14] Nancy (caller): So that's one other tip.
[108:15] Nancy (caller): Oh, yes.
[108:16] Nancy (caller): That's a great tip from Nancy.
[108:20] Nancy (caller): I just didn't know if there was a way to see what these proposed bills are without actually meeting with all these people because of time constraints.
[108:28] Nancy (caller): But we won't know until they're posted.
[108:30] Nancy (caller): Is that correct?
[108:36] Kim Monson: You know another- and I would say colorado- union of taxpayers, and then sue moore and her group, with liberty scorecard between these two organizations that will keep you really really informed on what's happening down at the state house, because there's a bunch of volunteers that do a lot of work for you, so I'd recommend that as well.
[108:58] Kim Monson: Um, I think we're going to have to recommend that people make sure that they read your essay, Pam Long, because there's a lot more information.
[109:02] Kim Monson: Maybe we'll get to a couple more things here.
[109:04] Kim Monson: But Eric had wanted, last time you were on, I think that we misspoke, if you will, regarding the Space Command.
[109:13] Kim Monson: I think that we said, I think that you said that it might go to Arkansas.
[109:19] Kim Monson: And Eric wants to make sure that everybody knows that it's Alabama is where it might go.
[109:25] Pam Long: Oh, thank you for catching that.
[109:30] Pam Long: hour, which is, you know, little mistakes like that happen when you're getting up at 6 a.
[109:37] Pam Long: And Kim, you get up at what, like 3 a.
[109:44] Kim Monson: This is from one of our listeners.
[109:47] Kim Monson: It said, wake up, there are two purposes, votes and jobs for cronies.
[109:52] Kim Monson: I'm not quite sure how that whole thing connected.
[109:56] Kim Monson: And then let's see here another one.
[109:59] Kim Monson: This was regarding Doge Colorado is to get rid of government economic development organizations.
[110:08] Kim Monson: And if we could get rid of these government grants at the national level that are going down to local, county, and state government here in Colorado, That would be a great way for us to get our DOJ, our Department of Government Efficiency, really off and running, Pam Long.
[110:28] Kim Monson: So your final thought, I know we've thrown out a whole lot for our listeners.
[110:32] Pam Long: Everyone needs to engage like never before at the state capitol.
[110:36] Pam Long: This is, you know, Polis going into the end of his administration.
[110:39] Pam Long: I mean, he could just throw out all sorts of, you know, the super dem majority could do all sorts of last minute, like, scorched earth bills against our way of life here.
[110:51] Pam Long: So everyone needs to be involved in January at the Capitol.
[110:55] Kim Monson: And also, I think local governments, we have got to get engaged there as well.
[111:02] Kim Monson: And I know it seems overwhelming, Pam, but everybody just needs to choose one thing, whether or not it would be the state legislature or it's your local government.
[111:11] Kim Monson: But if we all choose one thing and we're engaged and informed on that, we can make the difference that we need to.
[111:18] Kim Monson: And, Pam, I am convinced that Colorado is at the tip of the spear.
[111:22] Kim Monson: This is the place where they are trying to run the petri dish for all of the bad stuff.
[111:29] Kim Monson: And so when I say in the show at the beginning that we were made for this time in history, we are the patriots of America.
[111:35] Kim Monson: And I mean, we take inspiration from them.
[111:40] Kim Monson: And we were made for this moment, Pam Long.
[111:43] Pam Long (outro): That's right, Colorado.
[111:45] Pam Long (outro): Let's take back our state.
[111:47] Pam Long (outro): This is our time.
[111:48] Kim Monson: And yes, we will reclaim Colorado.
[111:52] Kim Monson: Be sure and be on the list for our email newsletter so that you can see her essay that we will be publishing in the Sunday newsletter.
[112:02] Kim Monson: And then it will be on the website as well.
[112:07] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of this show is from Milton Friedman.
[112:13] Kim Monson: He said, the essential notion of a capitalist society is voluntary cooperation, voluntary exchange.
[112:19] Kim Monson: the essential notion of a socialist society is force.
[112:22] Kim Monson: So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[112:35] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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