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[01:08] Producer Steve: Wednesday, April 5th.
[01:10] Producer Steve: Take care of my mind.
[01:11] Producer Steve: I'm afraid I'm losing my mind.
[01:16] Kim Monson: When we look at the news, I think we are losing our mind.
[01:22] Kim Monson: That's why we do this show is to shed light on what's happening, help you get your brain around the truth, and then engage in the battle of ideas with reasonable rhetoric, with your friends and your family and your colleagues, and continue to make the case for the great American idea that all men are created equal because we're created in the image of God with these rights, inalienable rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
[01:50] Kim Monson: and never before in the history of mankind has there ever been a country that's been founded on those principles, founded on an ideal like that.
[01:59] Kim Monson: And boy, the old girl is sure under attack.
[02:03] Kim Monson: So with what happened yesterday with Donald Trump, just the media fiasco, I would say, on this.
[02:16] Kim Monson: I'm trying to get my brain around this.
[02:18] Kim Monson: I was watching some of the evening shows last night, Steve, and apparently these are really trumped up charges, if you will.
[02:27] Kim Monson: And they just want to make a media circus on this.
[02:30] Kim Monson: There are those that say that the charges are basically, there's 34, I guess, different crimes that he's being accused of.
[02:41] Kim Monson: And And one of the commentators said that it's basically the same crime, just rewritten and charged 34 times.
[02:50] Kim Monson: When I was looking for quotes for today, Steve, I was trying to find some quotes about a banana republic, because that's what this is, but I couldn't find any good quotes on that.
[03:00] Kim Monson: So I went with George Orwell, and he was an English novelist, SAS journalist, and critic.
[03:07] Kim Monson: He was born in 1903, died in 1950, of course he wrote 1984, An Animal Farm, and he said this, he said, however much you deny the truth, the truth goes on existing.
[03:19] Kim Monson: And we cannot deny that this is not the American ideal of what just happened yesterday with Donald Trump, Steve.
[03:31] Producer Steve: Well, obviously he was asked to enter a plea and he entered the plea of not guilty, which I guess says that there will be a trial.
[03:39] Producer Steve: The interesting thing, as I heard this morning, is that, all righty, we already know the trial is scheduled for January.
[03:45] Producer Steve: So we're going to go through the rest of the year watching this unfold.
[03:50] Producer Steve: And you know why a 2024 trial is being scheduled.
[03:57] Producer Steve: I mean, it's to cause this embarrassment to go on and on and keep it in the public eye.
[04:03] Producer Steve: You know, just as the primaries are getting going, and we do, we expect it to be a fast, speedy trial.
[04:10] Producer Steve: No, so uh yeah, it's just.
[04:12] Producer Steve: It's quite obvious to see what the master plan is here.
[04:16] Producer Steve: And the other thing, I think they were scared to death yesterday that the trump supporters would go off the deep end and create another january 6th moment, and I best of my knowledge, that did not happen.
[04:28] Producer Steve: And not to say that there weren't some issues here and there, but the whole day it's like it was just not a good day.
[04:39] Kim Monson: Yeah, I guess maybe Antifa didn't show up like they did on January 6th, Steve.
[04:49] Kim Monson: Yeah, and again, the commentators last night said this is no more than really political maneuvering.
[04:57] Kim Monson: To your point, dragging the trial out, popping it into 2024 shortly before the, not the primaries, the, what is it, the very first, I can't think of what it is, but, but, you know, the very first votes in these different states, it's all just strategic.
[05:22] Kim Monson: and they said what they're really trying to tarnish him with, because he's so far ahead in the polls right now with Republican voters, who they're really trying to besmirch him with is the suburban woman.
[05:41] Kim Monson: And so that's the whole strategy on this is the fight for that particular vote.
[05:48] Producer Steve: Dare we say that if he's really that far ahead in the polls, that already a lot of the work is already done.
[05:55] Producer Steve: The work now becomes keeping him there.
[05:58] Producer Steve: Don't let this asinine show circus, I guess is a better word.
[06:03] Producer Steve: You know, change your mind.
[06:04] Producer Steve: Think it through.
[06:06] Producer Steve: See what's really happening and go back to the four years where he was in office.
[06:10] Producer Steve: Is your life better?
[06:11] Producer Steve: Was it better?
[06:13] Producer Steve: Absolutely.
[06:14] Producer Steve: There's I mean, I still have that document that you gave me.
[06:16] Producer Steve: It's sitting on my dresser.
[06:18] Producer Steve: it's a half inch high.
[06:19] Producer Steve: Everything that's listed there either had a direct or indirect impact on my life, making it better.
[06:29] Producer Steve: And I think, don't you want to get back to that?
[06:32] Producer Steve: Are you tired of this identity politics baloney?
[06:35] Producer Steve: So if he's already head in the polls, then that's where the effort needs to be.
[06:40] Kim Monson: Now, there are those that say that DeSantis is doing a good job maneuvering through this as well.
[06:48] Kim Monson: Of course, DeSantis is, I think, a real contender as well.
[06:53] Kim Monson: But Donald Trump, I think that many may coalesce around him just because this is so wrong of what has occurred here.
[07:04] Kim Monson: And whether or not you are a blue dog Democrat or unaffiliated libertarian, Republican or conservative, we must unite and call this what this is.
[07:18] Kim Monson: This has never happened like this before in America.
[07:23] Kim Monson: And if this continues on, the America that we love, it's a very dire time for our country.
[07:32] Kim Monson: And then there are so many other things going on with the Biden administration, the Bidenettes, People, I don't know for sure who's pulling the strings on all this, but when you look at the decline of the dollar, the possibility that there's this new coalition, BRICS, somebody asked me to take a look at that.
[07:52] Kim Monson: We kind of alluded to it, but I think it's Brazil and China, and we'll get more information on that.
[08:00] Kim Monson: dollar with all the debt that we have, I mean, America, Americans are really, I think a lot of people don't even realize we're at a very dangerous time in our country.
[08:10] Kim Monson: So, yeah, what happened yesterday on that was rather sad for our country.
[08:17] Kim Monson: So we will see what continues on with that.
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[09:44] Kim Monson: The other thing, Steve, to talk a little bit about is Denver Mayor.
[09:51] Kim Monson: And so there will be a runoff, you said, in June by the top two vote getters.
[09:58] Kim Monson: And he is with the Gary Investment Group, former state senator.
[10:01] Kim Monson: And Kelly Breaux, who is, I think she's the chairman of the Denver Metro Chamber of Commerce.
[10:08] Kim Monson: Johnston received just under 25% ofthe vote.
[10:14] Kim Monson: AndAndy Rougeau received almost 13% of thevote.
[10:20] Kim Monson: He was the only Republican in the race.
[10:22] Kim Monson: But I find it crazy that Republicans didn't go to work to really get a Republican vote out there.
[10:35] Kim Monson: But again, I was late to the party on this, Steve.
[10:41] Kim Monson: I know that Eric Manning had really said that we needed to get behind him.
[10:46] Kim Monson: And I guess I looked at the huge field, and I didn't quite understand.
[10:54] Kim Monson: I should have been on that a little bit earlier, Steve.
[10:57] Producer Steve: Well, you and I were poring over the numbers off this Fox 31 chart that they put together.
[11:01] Producer Steve: And there's all kinds of things in there that really, they're eyebrow raisers in terms of the low turnout.
[11:08] Producer Steve: And, you know, the fact that neither one of these went over the top of 50%.
[11:13] Producer Steve: So that, again, that runoff will occur on the first Tuesday in June, June 6th.
[11:19] Producer Steve: But, you know, the big money or that what was fair election fund thing, that didn't seem to do anybody any good.
[11:27] Producer Steve: It just got it.
[11:28] Kim Monson: Just used taxpayer money to give to Democrats to run for office is what it was.
[11:32] Kim Monson: That's what they should call it is taxpayer money to give to Democrats to run campaigns.
[11:37] Kim Monson: That's I think that's what they should probably call it.
[11:41] Kim Monson: So I was quickly trying to find out how many registered voters there are in Denver, how many are Republican.
[11:49] Kim Monson: And I think from a couple of years ago, about 11 percent, I think, were Republican.
[11:56] Kim Monson: And it's a little difficult to find the exact information.
[12:01] Kim Monson: But I ended up very quickly on this site called VoteRecords.
[12:06] Kim Monson: And itlooks to me like it has every registered voter in Denver on this site, which that's a little scary.
[12:18] Kim Monson: But the first person that I clicked on is a woman named Doris Ehrenfeld O'Brien.
[12:23] Kim Monson: And normally Iobviously wouldn't use their names, but I clicked on that.
[12:29] Kim Monson: And Doris is listed as an active registered voter, and her registration date was 1968.
[12:40] Kim Monson: Now, it doesn't look like she has voted, but again, she's an active voter, at least what this site says.
[12:48] Kim Monson: But she was born in 1907, Steve, 1907.
[12:51] Kim Monson: Honest to Pete, we have got to get these voter rolls cleaned up.
[13:00] Kim Monson: Can we assume that she voted yesterday?
[13:03] Producer Steve: I don't know.
[13:04] Kim Monson: It doesn't look like she voted in the last election.
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[15:58] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[16:02] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[16:06] Kim Monson: I'm very pleased to have on the line with me Lori Gimmelstein.
[16:09] Kim Monson: She is a co- founder of Colorado ParentsAdvocacy Network, and she is organizing a rally tomorrow down at the state capitol on the west steps regarding this House Bill 23- 1003, the school mentalhealth assessment.
[16:31] Kim Monson: The sponsors on this are Representatives Daphna Michelson- Janae and Lisa Cutter.
[16:40] Kim Monson: And Lori Gimmelstein, welcome to the show.
[16:47] Kim Monson: And I just want to let people know, Pam Long has written a very important essay that we have at my website on this particular movement, if you will.
[16:57] Kim Monson: People are concerned with the mental health of our society, of our children.
[17:04] Kim Monson: But this House Bill 23-1003 is very dangerous.
[17:10] Kim Monson: And again, starting with sixth grade.
[17:13] Kim Monson: So tell us why you're so concerned about this, Lori.
[17:18] Lori Gimelshteyn: So we've been lobbying against House Bill 23-1003 since January.
[17:25] Lori Gimelshteyn: And, you know, when you first read it, when you read just the blurb that's on the front page of the Colorado legislature, you think, well, this looks fine.
[17:35] Lori Gimelshteyn: We all recognize and understand that mental health is a crisis with our youth, and we want our youth to have support.
[17:44] Lori Gimelshteyn: But as you dig into the bill, there's a lot of incredibly harmful areas that we really want people to be aware of.
[17:53] Lori Gimelshteyn: And so first and foremost, this bill was originally an assessment, and then they changed the word to screening because there was a lot of pushback.
[18:11] Lori Gimelshteyn: And without the right, making sure that the assessor is somebody that is qualified and working well, you want to make sure that you're not getting into a situation where you might end up with a diagnosis that's incorrect.
[18:29] Lori Gimelshteyn: So they changed the word to screening, but they didn't change any other language or the fiscal note.
[18:32] Lori Gimelshteyn: And a screening is just a tool that we use to determine if additional assessment is necessary.
[18:41] Lori Gimelshteyn: And really this word change was just to confuse the public.
[18:45] Lori Gimelshteyn: Now, the second alarming area is that this bill is geared to kids in 6th through 12th grade.
[18:52] Lori Gimelshteyn: So our kids going into 6th to 12th grade are 12 or are turning 12.
[18:56] Lori Gimelshteyn: And the language in the bill allows a child at age 12 to override their parent's opt-out.
[19:07] Lori Gimelshteyn: So if a parent realizes that their public school is doing this program, they can write a letter in and say, I would like to opt my child out of this assessment or out of this screening.
[19:21] Lori Gimelshteyn: And now with this, the way the law is written, your child at age 12 can override you.
[19:25] Lori Gimelshteyn: And we know with the pressures that are in school, I have a 10th grader, Kim, who I've opted out of screenings and surveys and any exercises that have to do with anything around his gender and sexuality.
[19:39] Lori Gimelshteyn: And every Wednesday, he is in a class called Advisory in the Cherry Creek Schools.
[19:45] Lori Gimelshteyn: And my request for my survey opt-out and exercise opt-out was for me to see those before I would give permission for him to be able to participate.
[19:58] Lori Gimelshteyn: And every week he comes home and he says, Mom, can you please get rid of this opt-out?
[20:04] Lori Gimelshteyn: I'm the only one not taking, you know, doing the survey, not doing the class exercise.
[20:10] Lori Gimelshteyn: And there is just so much pressure for him that I know that if he had the ability to override my opt-out, he would absolutely do it.
[20:19] Kim Monson: Okay, Lori, I've talked to people about this, they can't even believe it.
[20:26] Kim Monson: But what I would recommend for people to do is to look at the bill.
[20:31] Kim Monson: What you would do is just do a search, put in CO23HB for House Bill 1003.
[20:40] Kim Monson: And it'll bring you to the bill and then you can go down and click on the re-engrossed version and it'll bring up what it currently is.
[20:52] Kim Monson: So it says the bill allows any public school that serves any of grades six through 12 to participate in the program and requires a public school that wants to participate in the program to notify the department.
[21:04] Kim Monson: Then it goes on just a little below that.
[21:08] Kim Monson: It says, the bill specifies that a student 12 years of age or older may consent to participate in the mental health assessment even if the student's parents opt out.
[21:25] Kim Monson: And then who knows what comes back with this mental health screening.
[21:29] Kim Monson: And then we had Vicki Sutter and Lisa McLean on with Northern Colorado with the Be Brave project up there.
[21:43] Kim Monson: And if an assessment comes back, then a student can opt for six free sessions with a counselor, and the parents might not even know that.
[21:54] Kim Monson: And then they actually went through and determined who some of these counselors could be, and they very possibly may have a political agenda or a specific agenda for our kids.
[22:05] Kim Monson: This is why you are mobilizing for this rally tomorrow.
[22:12] Lori Gimelshteyn: So we have a rally for parent rights tomorrow, Thursday, April 6th, from 10 to noon on the west steps of the Colorado State Capitol.
[22:21] Lori Gimelshteyn: And we are asking all of your listeners, please join us on those steps.
[22:29] Lori Gimelshteyn: This is literally going to give the government the power to make decisions about our kids' mental health without parent consent or knowledge.
[22:38] Lori Gimelshteyn: And, you know, I do want your listeners also to know that our kids at age 12 right now can already access the I Matter Colorado program to have those six, quote, unquote, free treatments for therapy without parental consent or knowledge.
[22:53] Lori Gimelshteyn: And what this bill does is it now puts another layer in to push kids into that I Matter program.
[23:01] Lori Gimelshteyn: And there is other information in the bill on page 6, line 21, is trauma-informed.
[23:09] Lori Gimelshteyn: And I want all listeners to hear this word, trauma-informed, because this is the next alert word.
[23:17] Lori Gimelshteyn: And what this trauma-informed provider, what they need to do is treat all children as if they have some sort of trauma.
[23:28] Lori Gimelshteyn: It's things like unconscious racial and gender biases, the oppressed and oppressor model.
[23:35] Lori Gimelshteyn: And so what this puts in place is a risk to create trauma where there is none, so that the school can justify more trauma to treat.
[23:49] Kim Monson: And this is only in public schools right now?
[23:56] Lori Gimelshteyn: And what we're doing on the steps tomorrow morning from 10 to noon is we are going to rally.
[24:11] Lori Gimelshteyn: We have Aaron Lee, who is a parent advocate for parental rights.
[24:24] Lori Gimelshteyn: Kathy, Tim in Denver, Victoria Chen, our international ambassador, and Greg Lopez, a Hispanic community leader.
[24:30] Lori Gimelshteyn: They'll all be joining us, and we're just praying we can get 1,000 people on those steps.
[24:38] Kim Monson: Okay, so if somebody– well, first of all, yes, anybody that can be there should be there because this is for our children.
[24:47] Kim Monson: And, again, that will be from 10 to 1230, is that right, 10 to 12?
[24:54] Kim Monson: Then I had a listener that reached out yesterday and said that there's only 23 people signed up so far to testify on the bill, and some of those are for it.
[25:07] Kim Monson: So how can people, I guess, first of all, if you're down there to go, they can sign up to testify tomorrow.
[25:27] Lori Gimelshteyn: So all you have to do is come to the rally if you're coming, and then we'll walk in the south entrance of the Capitol together.
[25:34] Lori Gimelshteyn: We'll locate the screen that tells us what room the committee will be in to hear the bill.
[25:58] Lori Gimelshteyn: And on our events page, the very first event is what's happening tomorrow with the rally.
[26:03] Lori Gimelshteyn: And then the second event is testify against House Bill 1003.
[26:16] Kim Monson: And what about if somebody can't make it to the rally?
[26:32] Lori Gimelshteyn: This afternoon they're going to be finishing up with what they're doing today and looking at their agenda for tomorrow.
[26:37] Lori Gimelshteyn: So we and you want if you are sending in written testimony, you want your call to action in that very first paragraph.
[26:49] Lori Gimelshteyn: And if you have examples of why there's evidence of harm, that can be very helpful.
[26:55] Lori Gimelshteyn: That link to send emails to the senators on the Health and Human Services Committee is also on the event tab on ColoradoParents.
[27:11] Kim Monson: Testify against House Bill 23- 1003.
[27:13] Kim Monson: And if you can't make it to the rally, make sure that you testify.
[27:20] Kim Monson: But tomorrow, I think the weather is supposed to be pretty nice tomorrow, isn't it?
[27:27] Lori Gimelshteyn: I was at the West Dubs yesterday for the pro- liferally, and it was snowing and it was freezing.
[27:34] Lori Gimelshteyn: such a great job by Brittany Vesely and that whole group of people.
[27:48] Kim Monson: Lori Gemmelstein, thank you so much for caring about our children.
[27:52] Kim Monson: And I know this takes an enormous amount of time to make this happen, but again, coloradoparents.
[27:59] Kim Monson: That should be on everybody's to- dolist to make sure that they testify and then be down at the Capitals tomorrow, West Steps, 10 o'clock, forthe important rally.
[28:10] Kim Monson: So, Lori Gimmelstein, thank you so much.
[28:12] Kim Monson: I greatly appreciate all that you do.
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[30:31] Kim Monson: I'mso pleased to have on the line with me Sue Moore.
[30:34] Kim Monson: She is with the Colorado Liberty Republicans, and they take a look at all of the legislation that is being proposed down at the statehouse, as well as I'm also doing that with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[30:49] Kim Monson: But I thought where we are in the session, it would be great to have Sue Moore talk about what she is seeing.
[30:55] Kim Monson: So, Sue Moore, welcome to the show.
[31:00] Kim Monson: Are you having fun yet as you are looking at all these bills in the Colorado legislature?
[31:09] Sue Moore: Yeah, I don't know if fun is the right word, but we've been very busy.
[31:14] Sue Moore: They're keeping us very busy reading bills that are being introduced.
[31:19] Sue Moore: I'm sure you've looked at the numbers as well, but they've already introduced 594 bills this year.
[31:24] Sue Moore: And there's still four and a half weeks to go, so they are on pace to introduce a record number of bills.
[31:31] Sue Moore: I think last year we had a total of 657.
[31:34] Sue Moore: So, yeah, they're throwing a whole lot of stuff against the wall right now, and we're just trying to make sense of it as best we can.
[31:42] Sue Moore: And, again, the Liberty score, we read all the bills.
[31:45] Sue Moore: We at least look at them as they're being introduced.
[31:48] Sue Moore: And I have a group of people, very dedicated volunteers, who read these bills, and then we look at them through the lens of Liberty.
[31:55] Sue Moore: free markets, individual rights, limited government.
[31:58] Sue Moore: And we actually have a kind of a spreadsheet that we use with a bunch of questions.
[32:03] Sue Moore: We ask each other these questions.
[32:04] Sue Moore: You know, how does this bill affect freedom?
[32:07] Sue Moore: How does it affect, you know, property rights and fiscal responsibility, those kinds of things.
[32:13] Sue Moore: And then we have a weekly Zoom call, usually on Sundays, where we go through these bills.
[32:19] Sue Moore: And then we come up with a position of support or oppose.
[32:24] Sue Moore: and then we compare, you know, our positions with those, the votes as they come in from each of the legislators, and then we run a scorecard.
[32:31] Sue Moore: So it's pretty much just a report card.
[32:32] Sue Moore: It's on a scale of, you know, 100 to, you know, one to 100, and we assign grades and just kind of let the chips fall.
[32:40] Sue Moore: So yeah, it's not been a fun year.
[32:45] Sue Moore: I think we're all getting a little tired of it.
[32:47] Sue Moore: It can be kind of depressing at times, but, you know, we do the best we can.
[32:51] Sue Moore: We've got to hold these people accountable, as you know.
[32:54] Sue Moore: You know, bad votes happen when nobody's paying attention.
[32:58] Sue Moore: And, you know, especially, well, on both sides, some of the Republicans aren't performing as well as we would like.
[33:04] Sue Moore: So, you know, we do the best we can.
[33:08] Sue Moore: We're just trying to figure out, you know, who are our good legislators down there, you know, and who do we need to support?
[33:15] Sue Moore: Pat on the back every once in a while because it's tough on these folks.
[33:20] Sue Moore: You know, they are fighting these battles every single day and trying to do the best they can to make horrible bills slightly less horrible.
[33:27] Sue Moore: So, yeah, that's kind of what we've been doing.
[33:31] Sue Moore: And we're tired, but we're going to keep doing it.
[33:37] Kim Monson: Well, so where can people get the information as you are rating these bills?
[33:53] Sue Moore: And you'll see it updated at least weekly.
[33:56] Sue Moore: You can look up your legislator there.
[33:59] Sue Moore: All you need is your home address.
[34:00] Sue Moore: You can see who represents you.
[34:02] Sue Moore: And then you can see how they're doing.
[34:04] Sue Moore: And it has their email addresses, their phone numbers, any kind of information you want on these folks.
[34:10] Sue Moore: If you want to follow up with them, give them a phone call, tell them what you're feeling, you know, how different bills affect you.
[34:17] Sue Moore: I know you've already talked about 1003, and they've got that rally tomorrow, which is awesome.
[34:23] Sue Moore: And there are ways to go down and testify, and some of that's on our website as well.
[34:29] Sue Moore: So there's a wealth of information there, the bills that we've looked at, how we've looked at them, the principles that we've applied.
[34:36] Sue Moore: But mostly it's a report card, so you can look at their bright, shiny faces and see how they're doing.
[34:42] Kim Monson: Okay, so it's primarily then giving a report card on how they are voting.
[34:51] Kim Monson: But you also take positions on things, right?
[34:53] Kim Monson: I see that over to the side on recent activity.
[34:57] Kim Monson: So do you have all the bills noted there?
[35:01] Kim Monson: There's your scoring on that, correct?
[35:07] Sue Moore: You know, sometimes we don't rate a bill.
[35:09] Sue Moore: It might have conflicting principles.
[35:12] Sue Moore: and or the committee just can't come to an agreement.
[35:16] Sue Moore: And the way we work is that if somebody wants to dig in their heels on a support or an oppose, everybody else is on the opposite side.
[35:25] Sue Moore: And there are a handful of bills that we just can't make heads or tails of.
[35:30] Sue Moore: Some of them are written so poorly.
[35:34] Sue Moore: So we don't rate every bill, but we rate as many as we can.
[35:38] Sue Moore: I think we did have the 657 bills introduced last year.
[35:44] Sue Moore: So we're collecting a lot of data points.
[35:47] Sue Moore: We report their final committee vote if they sit on certain committees, you know, whether they voted in that committee to pass or to kill a bill.
[35:56] Sue Moore: And then we take their third reading votes, which is their final vote in their chamber, either the House or the Senate.
[36:03] Sue Moore: So the point is we've collected a lot of data points.
[36:07] Sue Moore: It's not just a handful of bills that we're highlighting.
[36:09] Sue Moore: We're looking at all of them so that we can kind of paint a picture of, you know, how strong they are on our principles of individual rights and free markets and limited government.
[36:22] Sue Moore: We try to present it as objectively as we can.
[36:26] Sue Moore: We don't, like I said, it's not personal.
[36:28] Sue Moore: It's just how are you voting, you know, in conservative ways.
[36:33] Sue Moore: So, but yeah, that's a ton of information.
[36:38] Kim Monson: And as you can, it's over on the right-hand side, you have 2023 bills.
[36:44] Kim Monson: And you click on that, and you have looked, you have taken a position, it looks like, on 409 bills, which I can really appreciate the amount of time that you and your volunteers are putting into this.
[36:59] Kim Monson: Because I think that between Liberty Scorecard and then what we're doing over at Colorado Union of Taxpayers, people can become very informed on what is happening down there.
[37:09] Kim Monson: I think that I think people think that it's overwhelming, which it is, and it's daunting.
[37:14] Kim Monson: And so you have this team of volunteers, Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[37:19] Kim Monson: Cut has this group of volunteers, and this is people that are spending an enormous amount of time to watch what's going on and inform people.
[37:27] Kim Monson: So I thank you and your team for that.
[37:30] Sue Moore: Sue more well, thank you and your team as well.
[37:33] Sue Moore: We read most of the same bill, maybe all of them.
[37:37] Sue Moore: Your focus is a little bit different than ours, but we're both focused on, you know, fiscal issues, taxpayer issues.
[37:43] Sue Moore: We're just trying to get our arms around what the size and scope of government has become and continues to grow.
[37:50] Sue Moore: So, yeah, it's very important work.
[37:53] Sue Moore: But our people are, and we share some of the same bill raters, but they're very dedicated.
[38:00] Sue Moore: And we know that it makes a difference.
[38:02] Sue Moore: I'm sure that you get phone calls and texts from certain legislators saying, you know, why did you rate my bill this way?
[38:08] Sue Moore: Why are you opposing this bill?
[38:10] Sue Moore: You know, maybe you didn't hear this piece of testimony or maybe you didn't see this thing in the fiscal note or you didn't see this amendment.
[38:18] Sue Moore: So it is, you know, we know we're making a difference and we're as responsive, you know, we're respectful and we're responsive because we don't get it right all the time.
[38:28] Sue Moore: And we've got people from different professions, different walks of life, different life experiences reading these bills.
[38:35] Sue Moore: And we're doing the best we can.
[38:36] Sue Moore: And they are as well, as far as we can tell.
[38:39] Sue Moore: So we're getting constant feedback.
[38:42] Sue Moore: And so it's a very powerful tool.
[38:44] Sue Moore: They know we're watching, and that's the important thing.
[38:47] Sue Moore: And they know that we're holding them accountable.
[38:49] Sue Moore: So, yeah, it works, and we think it's important.
[38:57] Kim Monson: And Sue Moore, as I have, and this is my first year in doing this, and as I look at the legislation and I click on it and take a look at who the sponsors of the bills are, and I realize, and this was actually something that came in via our text messages as well, and that text line is 720-605-0647.
[39:21] Kim Monson: These legislators, I don't see any statesmanship, really, or not much statementship, I should put that.
[39:31] Kim Monson: And I don't think that these people are writing these bills.
[39:34] Kim Monson: I think special interests are coming to different legislators, and they're shopping these bills, getting somebody to sponsor them.
[39:40] Kim Monson: But as I look at all of this legislation, there's things, as Lori mentioned, that pile on either past legislation or this particular legislative session.
[39:51] Kim Monson: And I'm really disappointed as I really have delved into this.
[39:55] Kim Monson: There's no way that these people that are down at the statehouse are really representing the people.
[40:06] Kim Monson: And I don't really see them representing the people.
[40:13] Sue Moore: Yeah, now you see, you know, I've been doing this for five years.
[40:17] Sue Moore: We kind of continued from where principles of liberty left off.
[40:20] Sue Moore: They ran a very similar scorecard before we picked it up five years ago.
[40:24] Sue Moore: And you do start to see patterns.
[40:26] Sue Moore: Some bills come back every year.
[40:29] Sue Moore: They might get tweaked a little bit, but they're kind of the same bill.
[40:33] Sue Moore: So there's a lot of repeat bills that come back.
[40:36] Sue Moore: A lot of these are written by lobbying groups, and a lot of them are written by attorneys within these lobbying groups.
[40:42] Sue Moore: And, you know, they've got an agenda.
[40:43] Sue Moore: They've got something they're trying to, you know, do to Colorado.
[40:47] Sue Moore: and they'll find a friendly ear and then they'll run these bills.
[40:53] Sue Moore: But by and large, they're not good for the people of Colorado.
[40:57] Sue Moore: They're not representing us and our interests specifically.
[41:01] Sue Moore: They're representing special interests.
[41:04] Sue Moore: But, you know, you ask where are the statesmen?
[41:06] Sue Moore: We do have some really good people down there, and they really are putting in an effort.
[41:11] Sue Moore: Stephanie Luck has just really blossomed.
[41:14] Sue Moore: I think she was new the last session.
[41:17] Sue Moore: But she kind of, you know, was mentored by Patrick Neville, Shane Sandridge, some of the really strong conservatives down there.
[41:26] Sue Moore: And I think she's taken it on herself to kind of guide some new people down there.
[41:31] Sue Moore: Ken DeGraff is doing a really great job.
[41:36] Sue Moore: And some people are really trying to bring up their scores from previous years.
[41:40] Sue Moore: And we know that because they're asking us questions.
[41:45] Sue Moore: And, you know, why did you do this on this bill?
[41:46] Sue Moore: You know, I really want to do the right thing, but I, you know, I'm not sure you're right on this thing.
[41:51] Sue Moore: And, you know, and we're happy to answer those questions.
[41:56] Sue Moore: We love the feedback because it also helps us strengthen our arguments.
[42:01] Sue Moore: So, you know, there are people paying attention and they are trying to do the right thing.
[42:06] Sue Moore: But we just have to keep, you know, keep showing them what the right thing is, if you will.
[42:13] Kim Monson: I want to talk with you about maybe your top three worst bills.
[42:18] Kim Monson: I know there's so much to choose from.
[42:20] Kim Monson: But we were talking about where are the statesmen.
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[42:41] Kim Monson: and I'd recommend that you go to their website.
[42:46] Kim Monson: org and Drew Dix, who is a recipient of the Medal of Honor, gave a really excellent presentation just recently and you should be able to find that there and it was a message to America's children.
[42:59] Kim Monson: And so again, check out AmericanValuesCenters.
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[45:40] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[45:45] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[45:51] Kim Monson: And I also wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation, another nonprofit that I just dearly love.
[45:55] Kim Monson: And actually, I had lunch yesterday with the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation and wanted to say thank you to her.
[46:02] Kim Monson: She's doing such a great job, and that is Paula Sarlls.
[46:05] Kim Monson: She is, and her team are focused on raising the funds for this Marine Memorial remodel out at 6th and Colfax.
[46:13] Kim Monson: And there's an important event that's going to be coming up here at the end of the month, and we'll be talking more about that as we get closer and closer to that, but we'd love to have you join us.
[46:23] Kim Monson: But it is so important, my friends, to recognize those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives so that we have liberty.
[46:30] Kim Monson: Now, liberty is certainly under assault right now, but go to USMC Memorial Foundation to honor these people, and you can make a contribution there.
[46:44] Kim Monson: Liberty is under attack from what I can see in Colorado with the legislation that's been introduced this year, what we've been seeing in some of the past years.
[46:56] Kim Monson: But with Liberty Scorecard, you're doing an excellent job on watching all this and informing people.
[47:01] Kim Monson: I texted you in preparation to say, what do you think is the worst three bills?
[47:08] Kim Monson: But what would you say are the worst three bills from a Liberty standpoint?
[47:13] Sue Moore: Well, the first one is the one that you and Lori already talked about, House Bill 1003, the school mental health assessment.
[47:21] Sue Moore: And I know you've already talked about it, but the only thing I'll add to that is the numbers.
[47:25] Sue Moore: You know, if you read through the fiscal note, they predict that 94,000 students will participate in this screening and up to 25 percent will go into therapy.
[47:36] Sue Moore: So you're talking about 20,000 kids, many of whom their parents don't even know that they've been screened.
[47:43] Sue Moore: So I think that's just well, we agree that's just an atrocious bill.
[47:47] Sue Moore: But I think that's that one's the most concerning.
[47:49] Sue Moore: Another one is the Senate Bill 213, the Land Use Bill.
[47:54] Sue Moore: This just came out a week or so ago.
[47:56] Sue Moore: This is one of Polis' big initiatives to tackle affordable housing.
[48:01] Sue Moore: But it's a huge top-down central planning approach.
[48:04] Sue Moore: You know, the bill summary starts out with a line that says, Housing Needs Planning.
[48:12] Sue Moore: It talks about allowing accessible, what do they call it, ADUs.
[48:21] Sue Moore: So you could build an apartment in your backyard if you want to.
[48:25] Sue Moore: And it says that you could do this anywhere in the state where single family housing units are permitted.
[48:30] Sue Moore: So, I mean, this would have a huge impact on neighborhoods.
[48:33] Sue Moore: They talk about middle housing, resort job centers, how they're going to house and duplexes and triplexes and fourplexes, You know, how to address the housing shortage in resort areas, transit-oriented areas where they want really heavy density because they don't want to require parking for these units.
[48:55] Sue Moore: They just want everyone to ride the bus and ride the light rail and get around.
[48:59] Sue Moore: You know, it might work in Denver.
[49:00] Sue Moore: It's not going to work so well in Grand Junction.
[49:03] Sue Moore: And then key corridors, they want to set aside a certain percentage for low-income housing, anyway, in urban municipalities.
[49:13] Sue Moore: So, you know, the biggest problem is they think they can plan all this.
[49:15] Sue Moore: They want to collect data throughout the state, figure out where people are living, how much is corporate owned, how much is, you know, privately owned.
[49:23] Sue Moore: They want to collect all this data that is going to be impossible to collect.
[49:28] Sue Moore: And by the time they can actually make sense of it and apply it, the housing market will have shifted.
[49:34] Sue Moore: And the person who gets to run this is, of course, the executive director of Department of Local Affairs, who is appointed by the governor.
[49:44] Sue Moore: So it gets this unelected official all kinds of power.
[49:52] Sue Moore: And then there's a Senate bill, 184, protections for residential tenants.
[50:00] Sue Moore: Full disclosure, I own property.
[50:03] Sue Moore: But this would require landlords to rent property on a first-come, first-served basis.
[50:08] Sue Moore: It would say that you can't ask any questions about income.
[50:12] Sue Moore: You can't ask about credit rating.
[50:14] Sue Moore: You can't ask about rental history.
[50:15] Sue Moore: And, you know, it'll basically devastate the rental market.
[50:21] Sue Moore: But the purpose of all this is central control.
[50:24] Sue Moore: Government thinks they know best how to manage the housing market.
[50:28] Sue Moore: They don't want private people running.
[50:31] Sue Moore: They don't care about property rights.
[50:34] Sue Moore: And it would be a disaster for housing in Colorado.
[50:38] Sue Moore: So those are really the top three.
[50:41] Sue Moore: But, you know, if we've got another moment, there are a couple of good bills.
[50:45] Sue Moore: There are some bright spots on the horizon.
[50:49] Sue Moore: Senate Bill 108, temporary reductions in property taxes due.
[50:54] Sue Moore: That would allow municipalities to temporarily allow property tax credits or mill levy reductions.
[51:01] Sue Moore: So, you know, this may not be the answer to the property tax explosion that's on the horizon, but it's a step in the right direction.
[51:10] Sue Moore: And then there's a new bill, Senate 252, regarding medical price transparency.
[51:15] Sue Moore: and it's an effort to, as Steve Dorman is on our committee, and he said, you know, medical, the provision of medical care is the one thing that you can't predict.
[51:25] Sue Moore: You don't know what you have to pay until you've received it, and you're in the most vulnerable position of your life, and, you know, you don't have a price list.
[51:34] Sue Moore: So you go into the hospital, and you don't know what it's going to cost and how they're going to charge you.
[51:39] Sue Moore: So this is an effort to kind of shine a light, you know, provide consumers with a price list, if you will, of different services that they might receive at a hospital or medical center.
[51:50] Sue Moore: So just to give you some ideas.
[51:52] Sue Moore: So, you know, that's a good bill.
[51:54] Sue Moore: They're still ironing out the details on that.
[51:57] Sue Moore: But it's not all horrible news.
[51:59] Sue Moore: Most of it is, but there are some bright spots on the horizon.
[52:02] Sue Moore: So, you know, we just keep plugging away, keep pressure on.
[52:11] Kim Monson: Two of the three top worst bills I agree with you on was House Bill 1003, Incident Bill 213.
[52:18] Kim Monson: My third that I chose was House Bill 231190, which was the right of first refusal for government to buy property.
[52:28] Kim Monson: Now, at this point, it's again, I think it's not single families homes right now, but I think it has to be like a duplex or maybe three or four units.
[52:39] Kim Monson: But unbelievable to me that government would get first right of refusal when somebody is selling property.
[52:51] Sue Moore: And I think it gives them 90 days to look at the offer and then provide a similar offer.
[52:56] Sue Moore: You know, this market is the housing market moves way faster than 90 days.
[53:00] Sue Moore: So the seller is going to get screwed one way or another on that deal.
[53:05] Sue Moore: There are another, you know, four or five that address landlords and tenant issues and what you can do.
[53:12] Sue Moore: Pet animal ownership and housing.
[53:16] Sue Moore: You can't charge a deposit for a pet in an apartment or in a home.
[53:22] Sue Moore: People who don't own pets don't want to subsidize those who do.
[53:25] Sue Moore: So you should be, anyway, and there's limitations on rental agreements, tells you what you can and can't put in your rental agreement.
[53:33] Sue Moore: You know, there's all kinds of restrictions on eviction, you know, how long it can take.
[53:39] Sue Moore: It's going to make housing less affordable.
[53:41] Sue Moore: So whatever they tell you is the intent of the bill, it's going to do just the opposite.
[53:46] Sue Moore: You know that's just the way it's going to play out.
[53:52] Kim Monson: And we had Rambo O'Toole on just recently to talk about this Senate Bill 23213, which is the whole land use thing.
[54:02] Kim Monson: And ultimately, what I see is single family home ownership or also mom and pops that may have some rental property that are creating cash flow or their retirement for their retirement.
[54:18] Kim Monson: I see all these things that are important to individual freedom, to individual liberty, to people being able to choose where they live and just what that looks like.
[54:29] Kim Monson: I just see that's all under assault right now, Sue Moore.
[54:34] Sue Moore: This year, this legislative session has been especially brutal.
[54:38] Sue Moore: You know, I think, I think, I hope that, and Governor Polis has signaled that some of these bills will be DOA on his desk.
[54:46] Sue Moore: That's why he's come up with his most recent two or three bills, you know, his grand plan for how we're going to solve this housing crisis.
[54:54] Sue Moore: But these particular bills are just heinous.
[54:57] Sue Moore: They're, you know, they're anti-free markets.
[55:02] Sue Moore: It's just not the way it's, you know, that this country was founded.
[55:06] Sue Moore: And, yeah, and we have to fight back all the time.
[55:10] Sue Moore: It's going to be– and they're not even going to accomplish what they intend.
[55:15] Sue Moore: You know, they sound like old bills, but they're not.
[55:19] Kim Monson: Well, they're not going to accomplish what they say they're going to accomplish, but it does accomplish what I think that they want to do, and that is more and more control over each of these arenas in our lives.
[55:29] Kim Monson: Sue Moore, again, what is that website where people can get your scorecard?
[55:36] Sue Moore: Yeah, there's a wealth of information there.
[55:39] Sue Moore: You can see all their faces, their contact information, see how they're doing.
[55:45] Sue Moore: And, yeah, we're happy to provide that.
[55:49] Sue Moore: We think we're having an impact.
[55:50] Sue Moore: And what you're doing at CUT is important.
[55:53] Sue Moore: So, yeah, we appreciate you as well, Kim.
[55:57] Kim Monson: Thank you, Sue Moore with Liberty Scorecard.
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[56:51] Kim Monson: I think education has been hijacked.
[56:52] Kim Monson: A number of years has kind of dissed people that work with their hands.
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[56:59] Kim Monson: Gosh, we should have been teaching kids kindergarten through high school about return on investment.
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[57:28] Kim Monson: That's Producer Steve, Producer Luke, Zach, Patty, Keith, Charlie, Echo, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting.
[57:34] Kim Monson: Happy Wednesday to you, Producer Steve.
[57:36] Producer Steve: Good morning, day after election, Denver mayor election day, that is.
[57:42] Producer Steve: Uh- huh,uh- huh.
[57:43] Kim Monson: I just, I was trying to start the show a little early.
[57:49] Kim Monson: Fortunately, you didn't have me in the queue on that because I was printing this off from voterecords.
[57:55] Kim Monson: And it looks to me like this, it's a little scary, but it looks like it has all the voter registrations in Denver.
[58:03] Kim Monson: And the first one that comes up is uh, and normally I wouldn't give the name, but it's doris erinfeld o'brien andit gives her address, but she was born in 1907, and when you look at her voter registration it says that it's active.
[58:21] Kim Monson: I I think there's a problem right here in river city, uh, producer, Steve.
[58:27] Producer Steve: That makes her what, 117, 16, 17 years old?
[58:31] Producer Steve: I guess it's possible.
[58:33] Kim Monson: I have a feeling if we had somebody that was 116 years old that there would be a news story on that here in Denver, yes.
[58:41] Kim Monson: But we have problems with our elections.
[58:51] Kim Monson: We've got to get these voter rolls cleaned up.
[58:53] Kim Monson: We can't be sending out all of these mail- in ballotsall over the state.
[59:02] Kim Monson: But speaking of legal harvesting, it looks to me like if the Republicans would have gotten busy, and also I'm going to put myself in this as well, because I really was not, I think I just kind of thought it was a foregone conclusion that it's going to be a Democrat mayor.
[59:19] Kim Monson: And I realize we all need to, we need to be in each of these battles, because we're at war regarding our country.
[59:30] Kim Monson: This battle of ideas, we're in a war on this right now, and we need to be showing up.
[59:35] Kim Monson: So shame on me for not really being on this a little bit more regarding Andy Rougeau.
[59:39] Kim Monson: He came in fourth, and with a little bit of work, I think that he could have probably been in the top two, Steve.
[59:45] Producer Steve: I mean, you take a look at this chart that we're looking off of the KDVR website.
[59:51] Producer Steve: Yeah, he's number four with almost 14, 000 votesor 12.
[59:57] Producer Steve: 8%.
[59:59] Producer Steve: Butthe people who are higher up on the list, they're really not that far away.
[60:06] Producer Steve: And I'd like to think that with a little work, this is a good push in the right direction that he gets some name recognition and face recognition in the next four years.
[60:16] Producer Steve: Who knows what could happen?
[60:17] Producer Steve: Right.
[60:18] Kim Monson: And so we need to be supporting these great candidates when they step forward.
[60:23] Producer Steve: And we're not being coy here.
[60:27] Producer Steve: We haven't talked about the winner because right now it doesn't look like there is a winner.
[60:31] Producer Steve: The two top vote getters, neither one made it to 50%, so there's going to be a runoff on June 6th.
[60:38] Producer Steve: Right.
[60:39] Kim Monson: And we just had Sue Moore on in the first hour, and she and her team, and they're all volunteers with Liberty Scorecard.
[60:48] Kim Monson: We were talking about housing and the fact that there's this land use bill, Senate Bill 213, which consolidates control of zoning and housing in a bureaucracy at the state government.
[61:09] Kim Monson: But one of the things that they talk about is, and I wanted to get to this, I'm not getting there right now, but is the housing supposedly crisis.
[61:22] Kim Monson: But this has all been created because of government policy, urban growth boundaries, just a whole variety of things.
[61:30] Kim Monson: But now government wants to come in.
[61:33] Kim Monson: Now they want to say they're going to solve it.
[61:35] Kim Monson: And what that always means is it's taking on more power, more control.
[61:40] Kim Monson: I'm so concerned about single- family homes,people being able to own their own homes.
[61:44] Kim Monson: and I'm very concerned about the Senate Bill 213.
[61:49] Kim Monson: But to that point, the two top vote- getters inthe Denver mayor race, one of them is Mike Johnston.
[61:55] Kim Monson: He's been with Gary Community Ventures, which was one of their things is they are talking about affordable housing.
[62:00] Kim Monson: Affordable's the one you get to use the word once.
[62:05] Kim Monson: And this undercuts private home ownership.
[62:10] Kim Monson: And I know that this is important to Lorne Levy.
[62:15] Kim Monson: He is a great sponsor of both the shows.
[62:16] Kim Monson: He's an expert in the mortgage arena.
[62:23] Kim Monson: I'm super concerned about what's happening down at the legislature, but wanted to ask you about the Fed and interest rates.
[62:31] Kim Monson: I'm also concerned about what the Fed is doing.
[62:34] Kim Monson: What's happened over this last week?
[62:38] Lorne Levy: Mortgage rates have actually crept down a little bit as the 10- year treasuryhas moved lower.
[62:44] Lorne Levy: So that's a good thing for those looking to either, you know, buy or refinance.
[62:49] Lorne Levy: You know, it's one of those windows of opportunities we talk about, Kim, where, you know, if you're pre- qualified andready to go.
[62:54] Lorne Levy: I know for a fact the housing market is still going strong.
[62:58] Lorne Levy: We're even creeping back into the area of multiple offers on homes, some smaller bidding wars and things on some, what you would call, the lower echelon of home prices.
[63:10] Lorne Levy: So the housing market still has an inventory problem, as I think Karen tells you when you guys talk, and more buyers and sellers.
[63:18] Lorne Levy: So it's keeping prices up and so rates coming out a little bit helps everybody.
[63:22] Kim Monson: What about these reverse mortgages?
[63:27] Kim Monson: We've talked a little bit about that, but people had planned for their retirement, and with this high inflation it's changed things a little bit, And so these reverse mortgages can actually really help people.
[63:41] Kim Monson: And I find it interesting that the money is not taxable on a reverse mortgage.
[63:48] Lorne Levy: The money you take out of a reverse is tax- free.
[63:50] Lorne Levy: Andif you really think about it, it ties into the exception that all of us get when we sell a home,$ 250, 000 fora single person or$ 500, 000 fora married couple, so tax- free.
[64:04] Lorne Levy: But reverse mortgages have been great.
[64:07] Lorne Levy: I talked to someone who came through your show recently, who is in a classic situation where a reverse works for her because she doesn't have a lot of family to leave everything to and really is just short each month.
[64:18] Lorne Levy: And so, you know, doing the math, there's a lot of money that can be gotten for her on a monthly basis to just help her live her life.
[64:27] Lorne Levy: It's a good loan for the right circumstances.
[64:30] Kim Monson: Well, and the other thing with you, Lorne Levy, is you work with a lot of different lenders.
[64:34] Kim Monson: So you're not just constricted to one particular reverse mortgage company, correct?
[64:44] Lorne Levy: In the reverse world, it's very regulated, and that's a good thing in this instance because we don't want seniors being taken advantage of.
[64:53] Lorne Levy: You have to be 62 or older to get a reverse.
[64:55] Lorne Levy: So a lot of us on reverses, it really comes down to the fees where you've got to be careful that people aren't taking advantage of the person.
[65:06] Lorne Levy: On a regular basis, a lot of lenders have different opportunities or different options or different programs they've created.
[65:11] Lorne Levy: So it does help to work with someone who can access more than one lender for sure.
[65:15] Kim Monson: How can people get more information and reach you, Lorne Levy?
[65:19] Lorne Levy: The best way is always just give us a call at 303- 880- 8881.
[65:23] Lorne Levy: Andthat's Lorne Levy, 303- 880- 8881.
[65:28] Kim Monson: Andwe will talk to you next week, Lorne Levy.
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[69:25] Kim Monson: Just wanted to mention a couple of things.
[69:27] Kim Monson: Mike Johnston, who was one of the two top vote-getters for Denver Mayor, had been the president and CEO of Gary Investment Group, which they have been behind some of these affordable housing bills and some of the other education bills, all of them more and more government subsidizing things.
[69:50] Kim Monson: But actually he stepped down from that position in November of 2022.
[69:59] Kim Monson: But he is one of the top two vote getters.
[70:03] Kim Monson: The other is Kelly Breaux, and she is, I think, the former chair of the Denver Chamber of Commerce.
[70:08] Kim Monson: And Andy Rougeau, the only Republican in the whole group, came in fourth, which I find very encouraging.
[70:17] Kim Monson: How did the socialists do that were running for Denver mayor, Steve?
[70:23] Producer Steve: Yes.
[70:24] Producer Steve: And, well, let's see.
[70:25] Producer Steve: Let me grab my mic here.
[70:28] Producer Steve: Get over to your screen.
[70:29] Producer Steve: Let's see, Leslie Herod with 9.
[70:32] Producer Steve: 5%of the vote, Ian Thomas with 1.
[70:35] Producer Steve: 29%ofthe vote, and Terrence Roberts with 0.
[70:40] Producer Steve: 9% ofthevote.
[70:41] Producer Steve: So that particular label didn't seem to serve them well.
[70:46] Kim Monson: Well, we need to continue to shed light on this.
[70:49] Kim Monson: So I'm going to go to some of our text messages here.
[70:52] Kim Monson: First one, somebody said, I said, a battle of ideas.
[70:55] Kim Monson: They said battle of systems is a better term.
[70:58] Kim Monson: The American system versus the socialist system, polar opposites.
[71:02] Kim Monson: The next one regarding this land use bill, this Bill 213, which my understanding is Polis is behind it.
[71:11] Kim Monson: But the question is, do you think Polis will veto it so it makes him look like a good guy when he runs for president?
[71:17] Kim Monson: Another comment, there is no housing crisis.
[71:21] Kim Monson: The crisis that is being touted out there is being created by government, so that government can then come in and control housing.
[71:33] Kim Monson: And once again, if you make housing so expensive for single- family homeownership andmake it difficult for people to get into that market, and then, of course, the other things, we're seeing houses sell around where we live, And, gosh, three of them just recently have been purchased by larger companies as rentals.
[71:56] Kim Monson: So we're seeing a whole change on that.
[72:00] Kim Monson: But, again, the bill, which one was that?
[72:04] Kim Monson: That's House Bill 1190 that would give government right of first refusal.
[72:09] Kim Monson: Right now it would be multifamily properties.
[72:12] Kim Monson: But, again, get the camel's nose under the tent, and then the camel is standing in the tent.
[72:18] Kim Monson: Then going to another text message, it says, the bill talking about psychological evaluations for children sounds like it is written by the drug companies so that they can get more prescriptions out and make more money.
[72:33] Kim Monson: Another is the body of our state law must be a tangled mess.
[72:43] Kim Monson: Another comment, leave nothing for tomorrow, which can be done today.
[72:47] Kim Monson: Now they said to close our borders, but that goes to sending in testimony or showing up for the rally tomorrow against 10.
[72:59] Kim Monson: Org, and allthe information is right there for you to go down to the rally or also to provide testimony.
[73:10] Kim Monson: So I think that that's pretty important.
[73:12] Kim Monson: Another one here, it says we're right on point and that we support us.
[73:21] Kim Monson: And I just wanted to check one other thing here, Steve, while I was looking at this, because I wanted to talk with Trent Loos about several different things, and we'll get him here in just a moment.
[73:37] Kim Monson: Another comment with the scope of government increases.
[73:39] Kim Monson: the size of government automatically increases.
[73:43] Kim Monson: And when we're talking about government, this is these unelected bureaucracies.
[73:47] Kim Monson: And so you get these bureaucracies that are funded by tax dollars, but the bureaucracies are unaccountable to the voters.
[74:00] Kim Monson: Thrilled to have Trent Loos on the line.
[74:04] Kim Monson: It is Wednesday, so it's Trent Loos Wednesday.
[74:08] Kim Monson: and he's a sixth generation farmer and rancher.
[74:11] Kim Monson: You know, you've got to make a grand entrance.
[74:24] Kim Monson: We've watched egg prices here in Colorado.
[74:28] Kim Monson: We're among the highest in the country.
[74:30] Kim Monson: And part of that is because of this goofy chicken egg law that we have out here where chickens are, by law, supposed to have a certain amount of square footage.
[74:43] Kim Monson: Now, actually, chickens like to be close to each other, so I find that interesting.
[74:46] Kim Monson: But anyway, it increases the price of eggs.
[74:49] Kim Monson: But last week after you were on, I saw a report that said that egg producers are making record profits.
[74:59] Trent Loos: Well, the reason for record profits is because the usda killed 50 million chickens in the last 12 months.
[75:09] Trent Loos: That reduces the supply, increases the price, and so it stands to reason that here we have government intervening in a way they don't need to intervene to increase the cost of food.
[75:23] Trent Loos: So yeah, that is the balance that the farmers tried to make up for those chickens that they lost.
[75:28] Kim Monson: So government intervention, and we've been talking a lot about it in housing, because we've got some very onerous housing bills that are land use bills that are working their way through the Colorado State Legislature.
[75:42] Kim Monson: But when government gets involved, typically the price goes up, the supply becomes limited, and many times the quality goes down.
[75:50] Kim Monson: And that can be pretty much across the board unless government's coming in to subsidize something, like the homeless population here in the metro area.
[76:00] Kim Monson: When it's subsidized and people are making a lot of money on it, then those programs grow.
[76:06] Kim Monson: So next thing I wanted to ask you about, Trent Loos, and we were talking about it last week, and that is these CO2 pipelines.
[76:15] Kim Monson: Now, CO2, understand, is plant food.
[76:19] Kim Monson: And the idea that we're taking plant food and we're going to bury it for the environment is just ludicrous to me, Trent Loos.
[76:30] Trent Loos: Yeah, and the United Nations has indicated that we need to bury 3.
[76:36] Trent Loos: 4 trillion tonsof plant food globally, which would only end in death of all living things.
[76:44] Trent Loos: He who controls CO2 controls life because it's at 443 parts per million.
[76:57] Trent Loos: And they want to somehow tell us that we're increasing.
[77:01] Trent Loos: Well, the truth of the matter is that we've increased, I think it's actually at 0.
[77:12] Trent Loos: And so they'retrying to tell us that we're somehow emitting this CO2 causing climate change, causing all of these natural disasters that would take place.
[77:22] Trent Loos: But if you actually go back and look at what they estimate the CO2 level was in the dinosaur era, which one cannot argue that they were here at one point in time and there was massive vegetation growth, it's reported that the CO2 level was at 4, 000 parts per millionat minimum at that time.
[77:41] Trent Loos: And I was trying to explain this to somebody from St.
[77:46] Trent Loos: And I said, look, CO2 is plant food.
[77:49] Trent Loos: And when you take CO2 and concentrate it into a pipeline, there may be an element of danger.
[77:56] Trent Loos: But I don't think the element of danger is any greater than the element of danger that you get from water.
[78:01] Trent Loos: And I was explaining to him that CO2, the whole purpose and the reason God put it in the atmosphere is that it creates photosynthesis, feeds the plants, the plants produce oxygen, keeps life going.
[78:13] Trent Loos: And I told him that as we increase CO2 levels, we increase plant growth.
[78:20] Trent Loos: And he just had like this aha moment.
[78:22] Trent Loos: He said, oh my goodness, that's why my kid had that CO2 machine next to his marijuana plants in his dorm room.
[78:30] Kim Monson: I actually was talking with someone that had been involved with some of the grow houses out here in Colorado, and he said the same thing, that in order to make the plants grow, that they were putting CO2 into those greenhouses because it made plants grow.
[78:48] Kim Monson: And plants, let's see, let's connect a dot.
[78:51] Kim Monson: Plants can be food for human beings, correct?
[78:54] Kim Monson: Uh, they're using what they're, what really the end goal they're.
[79:04] Trent Loos: I believe that they're talking about the need to bury it to improve the planet so that they can use eminent domain to get their pipelines in.
[79:13] Trent Loos: And the pipelines are all about monopolizing the the supply of co2.
[79:17] Trent Loos: And one of the leading contributors in this whole ball of wax that you're alluding to is a company called Air Protein, which is now documented that they can take CO2 and create a fake meat, an alternative meat substance that is highly nutritious and dense.
[79:36] Trent Loos: If you go to their website, it says you can consume our product and you don't have factory farms and you don't have animals contributing those nasty greenhouse gases.
[79:47] Trent Loos: You just said that you're taking co2 from the atmosphere and creating a product to eliminate the the cow.
[80:00] Trent Loos: So how are you going to continue if the cow is actually the problem, how are you going to continue to have the component, the value viable commodity called co2, to make what you're talking about?
[80:10] Trent Loos: It doesn't even make sense if you just be a critical thinker.
[80:13] Trent Loos: But But in all honesty, I've got a friend who is in the CO2 market today.
[80:21] Trent Loos: And I believe, and I don't have documentation, but I have somebody who told me that they have an engine that can run on CO2.
[80:28] Trent Loos: I believe that it's just all about the people that realize the value of CO2 is going to just explode.
[80:36] Trent Loos: I've got a friend who makes dry ice.
[80:40] Trent Loos: and his cost six months ago for CO2 was 17 cents a pound, and in the last six months it has increased to 70 cents a pound.
[80:49] Trent Loos: That, at the end of the day, is what we're really talking about, a valuable commodity that a few power- hungry wealthy people aretrying to control with a monopoly and using the government to get it done.
[81:03] Kim Monson: But CO2, if it's plant food, it's in our air.
[81:09] Kim Monson: I don't quite understand how they capture it and put it in– I mean, I don't– I know this is very– probably a dumb question.
[81:21] Trent Loos: So I'm glad you brought that up because we have one coal- fired power plant in Nebraska.
[81:27] Trent Loos: It's atSalvoon, Nebraska, right along the Platte River.
[81:31] Trent Loos: and they just had a meeting last week in Kearney talking about if they're forced, they're not going to capture CO2 unless they're forced.
[81:40] Trent Loos: It will require 30% of their energy produced to actually capturethe CO2.
[81:47] Trent Loos: So 30% of the people who are getting electric outof this Gerald Gentleman coal- fired power plant and so on in Nebraska willnot be getting their electric because it takes 30% of their production just to fuel the carbon capture.
[82:02] Trent Loos: By the way, I might mention that since 1985, according to the Department of Energy, all coal- fired power plants have reduced 27% of their CO2 emissions,87% of their sulfurous oxide emissions,and 92% of their nitrous oxideemissions.
[82:21] Trent Loos: Who else has a record of thattype of scrubbing and cleaning into the atmosphere, like a coal- fired power plant do?
[82:35] Trent Loos: No, actually what they want to do is control our electric supply because you control electric, you control CO2, you control people.
[82:39] Trent Loos: Well, and that is the battle, and I call it the battle of ideas.
[82:47] Kim Monson: One of our listeners texted and said it's a battle of systems.
[82:52] Kim Monson: But it's not just CO2, water, if you can control water, if you can control CO2.
[82:57] Kim Monson: We see trying to control our freedom of mobility, control housing.
[83:03] Kim Monson: And this is, in a way, this has been a long time in coming.
[83:09] Kim Monson: I remember in the 70s, 80s, that there became this narrative in coming.
[83:13] Kim Monson: I remember in the 70s, 80s, that there became this narrative
[83:21] Kim Monson: These different things are, well, remember oil and gas, it was scarce, we're going to run out of it.
[83:27] Kim Monson: But yet, if you add in human creativity and innovation, then we can solve many of these problems.
[83:36] Kim Monson: So what happened is creativity and innovation in the oil and gas industry with hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling, we actually are sitting on vast amounts of oil and gas, but yet public policy is trying to keep it in the ground because they want to control Americans.
[83:53] Kim Monson: And one other thing I wanted to mention regarding the coal-fired plants is they're not really serious about this.
[84:01] Kim Monson: This is about hurting America and Americans because China, India, they are building coal-fired plants, Trent Loos.
[84:11] Trent Loos: They're selling us the components to have wind and solar in the United States.
[84:17] Trent Loos: And while they sell us the components to go headlong into this suicide mission of wind and solar, they build one coal-fired power plant every month.
[84:28] Kim Monson: It tells us that we're in, I think, a very difficult situation.
[84:33] Kim Monson: So I want to go back to– well, actually, let's go to break because I have some other questions for you.
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[86:37] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[86:44] Kim Monson: You shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[86:48] Kim Monson: And as I look at all this legislation and all that's happening, I ask where, and listeners as well, where are our statesmen?
[86:53] Kim Monson: And it just makes me think about the Center for American Values.
[86:57] Kim Monson: It's a nonprofit that I'm becoming involved with.
[87:01] Kim Monson: They're located in Pueblo, Colorado.
[87:04] Kim Monson: and actually they honor our Medal of Honor recipients.
[87:06] Kim Monson: Drew Dix, who is a Medal of Honor recipient, there's four Medal of Honor recipients from Pueblo, Colorado.
[87:12] Kim Monson: And Drew Dix received this for actions that he took during the Tet Offensive and the Vietnam War.
[87:21] Kim Monson: And individuals received the Medal of Honor for saving lives.
[87:27] Kim Monson: But the Center for American Values is focusing on our next leaders, and I love what they're doing.
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[87:47] Kim Monson: He's a sixth- generationfarmer and rancher, and we talk about rural America.
[87:51] Kim Monson: They feed us, provide energy for us.
[87:56] Kim Monson: And this CO2 pipeline thing, I just can't get my brain around it.
[88:02] Kim Monson: Taking CO2 out of the air, CO2 as plant food, seems like we would want more CO2.
[88:07] Kim Monson: But you said that this is about control, Trent Loos, and eminent domain.
[88:12] Kim Monson: And eminent domain is in the Constitution, but it is to be used rarely.
[88:18] Kim Monson: And so what's the play here that you see happening?
[88:23] Trent Loos: So let me tell you a longer story than I need to maybe, but it explains why this is such a volatile issue.
[88:31] Trent Loos: I was in Iowa a week before last week when you and I talked, and I told you that I'd been on a CO2 journey.
[88:38] Trent Loos: Iowa had a bill in front of the House the week before, two weeks ago today, two weeks ago today, that would eliminate the use of eminent domain for these CO2 pipelines.
[88:57] Trent Loos: It was scheduled to be in the Senate on March the 30th.
[88:59] Trent Loos: That's significant, because any bill that does not come out of the Senate committee and go to the floor by March 31st is killed for the year.
[89:08] Trent Loos: As a little side note, a player in all of this is the North Dakota governor, Doug Burgum.
[89:15] Trent Loos: He sold his business to Bill Gates.
[89:17] Trent Loos: His campaign was financed by Bill Gates.
[89:20] Trent Loos: I am told that Bill Gates shows up about twice a month to visit with Doug Burgum.
[89:25] Trent Loos: After the Senate or the Iowa House passed this bill, on Friday, all of a sudden, this North Dakota governor, Doug Burgum, goes to Iowa.
[89:35] Trent Loos: They report that he went to Iowa to do exploratory work for a campaign for president in 2024.
[89:41] Trent Loos: I don't think that's what he was doing.
[89:44] Trent Loos: Because Monday morning, the Commerce Committee, which was scheduled to hear this eminent domain bill on Thursday in the Senate, announced that they were canceling all committee meetings for the rest of the week.
[89:56] Trent Loos: They're just going to cancel meetings, which means the bill could not be heard in committee, could not go to the Senate floor, could not become law, that they would not allow eminent domain to be used for the CO2 pipeline.
[90:09] Trent Loos: The next morning, the chairman of the committee, 43- year-oldWaylon Brown, announced that he was stepping away from his seat for an indefinite period of time.
[90:21] Trent Loos: Their initial report was that he had a nervous breakdown.
[90:23] Trent Loos: They said he had chest pains, thought maybe it was a cardiovascular situation.
[90:27] Trent Loos: He announced that he just needed to spend time with his family and reset himself.
[90:31] Trent Loos: The next day, on Wednesday, the new chairman of this committee was put in place, a former chief of staff for former governor Terry Branstad of Iowa, who spent the last eight years as a United States ambassador to China for the United States.
[90:50] Trent Loos: The other part of it is this new chair of this committee is an acting attorney, and one of his clients is Carbon Summit Solutions.
[90:59] Trent Loos: So I'm just showing you the links that people and businesses are going to try to get eminent domain to be a part of this whole play.
[91:10] Trent Loos: In my opinion at this moment, and I can pretty well document it, the only way that they can get the pipeline through Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota, into North Dakota, because they want to bury this in Oliver County, North Dakota.
[91:22] Trent Loos: That's where the end game is for the CO2 pipeline, to go to Oliver County.
[91:26] Trent Loos: I was at the wellhead where they say they're going to bury this by center North Dakota last August.
[91:31] Trent Loos: The only way they can pull off the pipeline is the use of eminent domain, because they've tried to plant this seed, that co2 is dangerous and so it's imperative to the health of the planet and people that will use eminent domain and get this stuff to north dakota and bury it.
[91:48] Trent Loos: That's a load of bovine fecal matter.
[91:51] Trent Loos: They're using eminent domain because they know they cannot get this pipeline built.
[91:58] Trent Loos: And the truth is, a few companies are trying to have a monopoly on the co2 because it is a valuable commodity.
[92:05] Trent Loos: That's why, that's why eminent domain comes into play and that's why all the horn swallowing is taking place about the co2 pipelines.
[92:20] Kim Monson: Never I wasn't that interested in science in school.
[92:36] Kim Monson: I'm having a hard time getting my brain around this.
[92:39] Kim Monson: So this is about power and control once again.
[92:42] Trent Loos: It is 100% aboutpower, control, and reducing the food supply.
[92:54] Trent Loos: No different than our chicken conversation.
[92:55] Trent Loos: No different than our chicken conversation.
[92:57] Trent Loos: Because when people are hungry, you can control them.
[93:00] Quote Voice: Control oil, you control nations.
[93:05] Quote Voice: Control food, you control people.
[93:07] Quote Voice: Control water, you control people.
[93:13] Kim Monson: Okay, I'm going to change gears a bit.
[93:16] Kim Monson: But I've got a listener, and I need to do more research on it, but he continues to suggest that methanol could be an answer to energy questions.
[93:29] Trent Loos: Methanol is, I'm going to call it a cousin of ethanol.
[93:33] Trent Loos: We produce a tremendous amount of ethanol in this country.
[93:36] Trent Loos: Ethanol, by the way, is the one place they're mandating they capture their CO2 and put it into this pipeline that we're talking about.
[93:45] Trent Loos: The difference between methanol and ethanol is that there are two carbons present in the ethanol derivative.
[93:50] Trent Loos: There's only one carbon present in the methanol derivative.
[93:57] Trent Loos: WhatI do know, here's at the end of the day what we've lost sight of.
[94:02] Trent Loos: Everybody's seeking an alternative.
[94:06] Trent Loos: We have 800 years of coal left in the United States.
[94:13] Trent Loos: It's now well documented that oil is not a finite amount.
[94:18] Trent Loos: It's documented that Earth, the center of Earth, is creating its own oil as we go.
[94:26] Trent Loos: There's no reason that we need to move to something else.
[94:29] Trent Loos: There really wasn't any reason that we need to move to ethanol.
[94:33] Trent Loos: We've been fed this line so long that everybody's seeking an alternative and nobody stopped to ask the question: question: why do we need an alternative?
[94:43] Kim Monson: Well so, and ultimately we're seeing a theme here, and that is control, because the fact that the idea of America, that all men are created equal- I'm just playing this out- is: hey, if America, if coal- fired plantsare bad in America, bad for the planet, then they would be as equally bad in china and india.
[95:13] Kim Monson: So this is all a narrative about control and it's about taking down.
[95:18] Kim Monson: I really think it's about taking down america, americans and the american idea, uh, trent lose.
[95:23] Trent Loos: There's one other component to this that's got to cause people to scratch their head.
[95:29] Trent Loos: You know, colorado at one time, was a great coal producing state.
[95:32] Trent Loos: And all those coal mines in Colorado are dark now.
[95:37] Trent Loos: But you know who owns those coal mines?
[95:39] Trent Loos: You know there was somebody who bought those coal mines when everybody said, coal's dead.
[95:42] Trent Loos: Coal's just not going to be part of our future.
[95:49] Trent Loos: Why was Warren Buffett buying coal mines in Colorado that are going to go dark for 10 cents on the dollar?
[95:58] Trent Loos: Because he knows once the control factor is in play.
[96:06] Trent Loos: Coal is our most reliable, energy- efficient productionof electricity that we can possibly have.
[96:17] Trent Loos: We have an infrastructure to take coal.
[96:19] Trent Loos: We've been fed this bill of goods that is somehow dirty.
[96:24] Trent Loos: We've already established that CO2 is a valuable commodity.
[96:27] Trent Loos: So we're trying to shut down coal- fired powerplants because they produce too much CO2, and yet there's 15 uses for CO2 that we can't fill today?
[96:38] Trent Loos: And that's in addition to everything that's in the atmosphere.
[96:41] Trent Loos: There is no logic behind any of this other than control.
[96:47] Kim Monson: I still, then I got to go back to this eminent domain question.
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[99:37] Kim Monson: I'm going to try to get to some of these.
[99:39] Kim Monson: One of the first things before we get back here to Trent Loos is Kelly Rolfe.
[99:45] Kim Monson: She is one of the two finalists for Denver Mayor, and I've been pronouncing her name wrong.
[99:51] Kim Monson: And it says it's like Kelly Ruff, Kelly Brough like Ruff.
[100:05] Kim Monson: Eminent domain is, I think it's so dangerous.
[100:09] Kim Monson: And the founders said that eminent domain must be used for something that is for the benefit of the whole country.
[100:19] Kim Monson: So it might be, for example, I-70.
[100:23] Kim Monson: When they were building I-70, I know they used eminent domain to take some of the property for that.
[100:27] Kim Monson: But the reasoning was that is interstate highway system benefited the whole country.
[100:34] Kim Monson: So the idea that they're using eminent domain, I imagine they're probably saying that CO2 is bad.
[100:40] Kim Monson: I think this is what you said, CO2 is bad.
[100:44] Kim Monson: And so we would use eminent domain to take people's land to do that.
[100:48] Kim Monson: Am I getting that correct, Trent Loos?
[100:51] Trent Loos: I just want to make sure you add that they are paid what they consider to be an appropriate price for the land that they take.
[101:01] Trent Loos: So it's not like they just confiscate it.
[101:03] Trent Loos: But, I mean, you just think about the Denver Airport.
[101:08] Trent Loos: Think about where it was and why did it move way out there where it is.
[101:13] Trent Loos: How many acres of farmland that would be producing food have now been taken away because we had to build an airport there and we had to build all the road structure to get people there?
[101:25] Trent Loos: Oh, we might as well build this 470 so that we can bypass the airport and go right to Fort Collins.
[101:32] Trent Loos: It just continues to come at us left and right.
[101:36] Kim Monson: And thank you for making that clarification.
[101:38] Kim Monson: eminent domain, when the land is taken, then the owner is supposed to get fair market value on that.
[101:45] Kim Monson: We have Wyatt in Wyoming on the line.
[101:51] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): Good morning, guys.
[101:52] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): A couple of things to kind of dovetail in here.
[101:55] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): The data centers that we have to have so that they can do the Bitcoin or the digital coin that they are trying to come out with, the Fed coin.
[102:05] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): There are approximately 1,100 data centers in the United States currently, two of them up here in Cheyenne.
[102:13] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): They each take about 100 megawatts of electricity to run them, to cool the servers and that type of thing.
[102:19] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): That's enough for 80,000 homes.
[102:22] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): So if you're talking about a housing crisis, you can get rid of one data center and you have a significant benefit to the housing shortage.
[102:31] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): Then there's the issue of the coal-fired power plants.
[102:37] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): Coal-fired power plants create fly ash in the dust that is caught from the burning of coal.
[102:44] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): That fly ash is a main ingredient in concrete.
[102:47] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): So you shut down the coal-fired power plants, your concrete prices are going to go up too.
[102:54] Wyatt (Caller from Wyoming): Oh my gosh.
[102:55] Trent Loos: You bring up a very hot topic because the EPA is, last week, said the largest coal-fired power plant in North Dakota, Rainbow Energy Group, the old Coal Creek Station, the EPA says, we don't know if we're going to grant you a permit for discharging your ash.
[103:16] Trent Loos: and the Rainbow Energy Group said, well, if you don't issue a permit and we have to do these hoops that you say we have to jump through, we'll be down for three years.
[103:26] Trent Loos: So the EPA is using this fly ash that you're talking about, the ash as an excuse to shut down this plant.
[103:33] Trent Loos: Forty percent of all electricity exported out of the state of North Dakota comes from this one power plant.
[103:39] Trent Loos: It's a line of malarkey, just like you explained, And I love your concept of the crypto mining.
[103:47] Trent Loos: I went to several of these facilities in Kansas and Texas in the month of November, and I learned to bring it back home.
[103:57] Trent Loos: But just to give a concept, each digital transaction through one of these crypto mining operations, each transaction requires 1,739 kilowatt hours of electricity.
[104:10] Trent Loos: And if you're not up on kilowatts, that is equivalent to the average household for two months.
[104:18] Trent Loos: And these 100 megawatt transmitters are doing this every single minute.
[104:23] Trent Loos: But each transaction, and as our nation and states are talking about moving to digital currency, this is another pull on our power grid that already is short on capacity.
[104:35] Kim Monson: Boy, that brings up a whole other thing I want to talk about, and we may have to do that next week.
[104:40] Kim Monson: Thank you, Wyatt in Wyoming and John in Johnstown.
[104:45] John (Caller from Johnstown): Yeah, good morning.
[104:46] John (Caller from Johnstown): Another use for CO2 is in greenhouses, and many greenhouses actually add CO2 to the greenhouse air.
[104:56] John (Caller from Johnstown): And since it is plant food, these plants respond amazing.
[105:01] John (Caller from Johnstown): And you probably noticed that the plants that come out of greenhouses are absolutely thriving, and that's one of the reasons why is because they add CO2.
[105:14] Kim Monson: Just one other thing on the eminent domain, though.
[105:17] Kim Monson: Is it really to build a pipeline that they're talking about eminent domain, these CO2 pipelines, or is it about acquiring the land or both?
[105:28] Trent Loos: To build the pipeline and use an eminent domain or not, it doesn't matter.
[105:35] Trent Loos: there will be a conservation easement that is put into place.
[105:38] Trent Loos: I have personally been on farms and places where they have signed a conservation easement.
[105:42] Trent Loos: There are people that have signed away conservation easements for up to 160 acres, an entire quarter section of land.
[105:51] Trent Loos: Conservation easements do not always stay with the people that signed them.
[105:53] Trent Loos: I think you bring up something that needs to be explored, because there could be foreign countries that would purchase these conservation easements.
[106:01] Trent Loos: And when you sell a conservation easement on your property, that stays with your property for the rest of your life or the rest of the ownership of that land.
[106:11] Trent Loos: The conservation easement stays with the ownership whether you're alive or not.
[106:15] Trent Loos: So if it passes or somebody purchases it, you purchase that conservation easement, which might have originally been with Kermit Summit Solutions.
[106:23] Trent Loos: But if there's a tie to China like I think there is, it's literally saying somebody could buy your conservation easement.
[106:37] Bill (Caller from North Glen): I think you guys brought up an excellent point.
[106:39] Bill (Caller from North Glen): I had brought this up before, is the Earth continues to create oil.
[106:43] Bill (Caller from North Glen): And we literally have oil oozing out of the ocean floor every day.
[106:48] Bill (Caller from North Glen): So if it continues to create and we don't remove it, is it going to, is it just going to start exploding and popping out of the ground at some point?
[106:56] Bill (Caller from North Glen): And we'll have just fountains of oil somewhere?
[107:03] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts on that, Trent?
[107:04] Trent Loos: I'm told that's already happening in Los Angeles.
[107:07] Trent Loos: That's how it came to my attention.
[107:08] Trent Loos: The very first oil well shut down in the United States because it was dry.
[107:12] Trent Loos: It was in Los Angeles County, and I am told that has now become an issue.
[107:19] Kim Monson: It makes me think of the Beverly Hillbillies and oil oozing out of the ground.
[107:23] Kim Monson: Trent, we've got a couple of minutes left.
[107:28] Kim Monson: There's just all kinds of questions.
[107:30] Kim Monson: and we'll continue this discussion on methanol because there's some other questions that were coming in on that.
[107:36] Kim Monson: But how would you like to button this up?
[107:38] Kim Monson: I guess one of the things, one of our listeners said, look at this from a 30,000-foot view.
[107:43] Kim Monson: It says the camel is in the tent and the camel is China and they're taking over our food supply.
[107:54] Trent Loos: I assume most people don't know that currently one in three pigs produced in the United States, a full 33%of United States pork production is owned by Smithfield Foods, which is owned by WH Group from Hong Kong.
[108:08] Trent Loos: The camel has more than the nose and the tent.
[108:11] Trent Loos: And by the way, there are Smithfield properties throughout Colorado as well.
[108:19] Trent Loos: We need to pay attention to who we do business with.
[108:21] Trent Loos: And my final little request is I'm looking for an excused tardy for my presence today because our baby, our youngest daughter, turned 18, and I spent just a couple minutes too long saying happy birthday.
[108:33] Kim Monson: Oh, well, happy birthday to your daughter.
[108:37] Kim Monson: And I know, I imagine that those 18 years, they go by so quickly, it's probably hard to believe that your baby is 18.
[108:51] Trent Loos: Now I've just jumped ahead to see what it's going to be like when she's 18.
[108:56] Kim Monson: Trent Loos, I so appreciate this, and I appreciate you being on the show every Wednesday to talk about these important issues.
[109:04] Kim Monson: And I'd like to delve into, because one of our listeners really has all these questions on methanol, so I've got some more questions on that.
[109:13] Kim Monson: So I thank you so much, and again, we'll get to many of these text messages.
[109:17] Kim Monson: I appreciate hearing from all of you, and I'm still learning how to manage that.
[109:22] Kim Monson: But again, our quote for the end of the show is from George Orwell.
[109:26] Kim Monson: And when we have to do this, it's unbelievable.
[109:29] Kim Monson: But he'd written this a long time ago.
[109:32] Kim Monson: But he says, we have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.
[109:38] Kim Monson: And we are restating the obvious that we are in danger with China buying up property and conservation easements, food supply, all of this.
[109:47] Kim Monson: And that's why we do the show is we have to understand what's going on.
[109:52] Kim Monson: And so, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[110:04] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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