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[01:57] Producer Steve: I don't know what the difference was, but it's Friday already.
[02:00] Kim Monson: It's like, I mean, it seems like it's Monday and then it's Friday.
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[02:29] Kim Monson: He started out as a private, and he ended up a general.
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[02:42] Kim Monson: He actually was an advisor in 1972 in Vietnam, and I'd always heard a lot about the Tet Offensive, but I did not realize there was this huge offensive by the North Vietnamese in 1972.
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[03:40] Kim Monson: Producer Steve, we're going to have quite a show today.
[03:44] Kim Monson: We'll be talking with Leslie Mnookian.
[03:46] Kim Monson: She is the founder of the Health Freedom Defense Fund.
[03:50] Kim Monson: She's the writer and producer of The Greater Good Movie.
[03:53] Kim Monson: And we're going to be talking about forced vaccinations, trying to marginalize people.
[03:58] Kim Monson: It is sure to be a great conversation.
[04:01] Producer Steve: Well, with your notes, I went poking around a little bit to find out a little bit more about her.
[04:06] Producer Steve: And then this documentary that she did, I'm really eager to hear what she has to say.
[04:13] Producer Steve: Because obviously, was the documentary of 2010, 2011?
[04:17] Producer Steve: Yeah, I think so, yes.
[04:18] Producer Steve: All right.
[04:19] Producer Steve: So she did a lot of research to get ready to do that.
[04:23] Producer Steve: And I can't wait.
[04:24] Producer Steve: Obviously, it's got to be coming to roost.
[04:26] Producer Steve: You know, the chickens are coming to roost.
[04:29] Producer Steve: And it's just in this environment we're in here now, I'm sure she's going to have something that's just going to be riveting.
[04:41] Kim Monson: We never realized how important that is.
[04:44] Kim Monson: And so we'll be talking about all of that here in segments two, three, and four.
[04:47] Kim Monson: And we'll talk with Hal Van Herke at the bottom of the hour as well.
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[05:03] Kim Monson: Because I was thinking about all of this force that's going on out there.
[05:09] Kim Monson: Steve the coercion, the fear, the coercion.
[05:11] Kim Monson: I thought who would be a good person to quote, and I decided on Elie Wiesel, and he was a Romanian born, American writer, professor, political activist, Nobel laureate and holocaust survivor.
[05:25] Kim Monson: He authored 57 books, written mostly in French and English, including night, which was a work based on his experiences as a Jewish prisoner in the Auschwitz and Buchenwald concentration camps.
[05:38] Kim Monson: He was born in 1928 and he died in 2016.
[05:43] Kim Monson: And actually, the correct pronunciation is probably Buchenwald.
[05:48] Kim Monson: He said, the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference.
[05:57] Kim Monson: Indifference is what allows evil to be strong.
[06:04] Producer Steve: Well, okay, none of the concentration camps were picnics, but Buchenwald and Auschwitz were probably the most notorious.
[06:12] Producer Steve: And that alone gets my attention whenever I hear his name and thinking what he went through and then what he was able to overcome in coming to the US and in writing the way he did.
[06:27] Kim Monson: So I take a lot of heart from that particular quote.
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[06:33] Kim Monson: We're going to go to break and then we'll be right back with Leslie Mnookian.
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[07:33] Kim Monson: I am thrilled to have on the line with me leslie manukian.
[07:39] Kim Monson: She is a former Wall Street executive.
[07:40] Kim Monson: She produced and wrote the documentary, The Greater Good, and she is the president and founder of the Health Freedom Defense Fund.
[07:56] Kim Monson: Well, I am so excited that we have connected.
[08:01] Kim Monson: And I wanted to, first of all, jump in here.
[08:04] Kim Monson: Now you were a Wall Street executive.
[08:07] Kim Monson: And going from that to creating a documentary, that's quite a jump.
[08:18] Leslie Manookian: And then I went to one of my clients, a company called Alliance Capital.
[08:22] Leslie Manookian: And I ran their European growth portfolio management and research businesses.
[08:31] Leslie Manookian: And And what happened was, you know, I was getting sick and sicker and sicker, and I didn't know what was going on with me.
[08:38] Leslie Manookian: And I went to go and see a homeopath, and it helped me so much to stabilize that I then enrolled in homeopathy college.
[08:47] Leslie Manookian: And I learned about the vaccine issue on the very first day of homeopathy college.
[08:54] Leslie Manookian: And the reason that I was sick, even though I didn't realize it, is that I had gone to Southeast Asia after I graduated from business school.
[09:03] Leslie Manookian: And before I went, I got every single shot that they would give me.
[09:12] Leslie Manookian: And what ended up happening was the first day in homeopathy college, I was living in London, England.
[09:18] Leslie Manookian: And the person who was running orientation said, you know, we're going to talk about all these topics over the next three years.
[09:33] Leslie Manookian: And I raised my hand and said, you know, what are you talking about?
[09:39] Leslie Manookian: And he said, well, that's one perspective, and we're going to learn another.
[09:46] Leslie Manookian: I thought he was crazy and I left the class and I thought: okay, whatever.
[09:52] Leslie Manookian: But afterwards I went out into the hallway and there was a bookstore laid out in the hallway and he came up and he's like here, read this book.
[10:01] Leslie Manookian: So I read this book and it just blew my mind, because I'm an analyst, kind of geek by nature, and when I read the book the information in it was jaw dropping.
[10:18] Leslie Manookian: But most importantly, being an analyst, I went and looked in the back of the book and there were 950 or 60 footnotes to references in the medical literature and the mainstream news, you know, mainstream media going back 100 plus years talking about neurological complications from vaccinations, talking about, you know, arthritis and autoimmune issues from vaccinations, talking about death.
[10:54] Leslie Manookian: It never occurred to me that my health problems might be related, but it really started to make me wonder.
[10:59] Leslie Manookian: And so I thought, oh my gosh, I am someday going to go and make a movie about this so that I can learn for myself and share with the world what I learned.
[11:09] Leslie Manookian: And so that was the impetus behind The Greater Good, essentially, my movie.
[11:13] Kim Monson: What year was this when this all started then?
[11:25] Leslie Manookian: It was before my son was born and before I probably was even married, I started learning about this stuff.
[11:35] Leslie Manookian: And then I finished homeopathy school, I think, in 2003 or 2004.
[11:44] Leslie Manookian: And then that set me on this path, which we'll once we, you know, we'll get there.
[11:48] Leslie Manookian: But set me on a path to really go and start researching conflicts and conflicts of interest in medicine and in media and in government.
[12:04] Leslie Manookian: But basically, it was a very long time ago and I didn't know what was going on with me.
[12:06] Leslie Manookian: But it kind of set me on a journey that helped me to start to figure it out.
[12:09] Kim Monson: It's so interesting that you bring that up because I've always thought that vaccinations were just really important.
[12:20] Kim Monson: I actually, I'm old enough that instead of vaccinations, I actually had like the measles and chicken pox and all that stuff.
[12:28] Kim Monson: So I got all my immunity the old- fashionedway, if you will.
[12:33] Kim Monson: But I'm kind of late to this whole thing.
[12:37] Kim Monson: And it really happened a few years ago here in the Colorado legislature.
[12:41] Kim Monson: I had a woman that reached out to me.
[12:44] Kim Monson: I'd met her at one of my speaking engagements.
[12:46] Kim Monson: And she said, you need to take a look at this piece of legislation.
[12:50] Kim Monson: And I looked at it, and this was pre- COVID.
[12:54] Kim Monson: And I looked at it, and I just saw this huge danger in this legislation that it was looking into the future.
[13:03] Kim Monson: And it was giving unelected bureaucrats the power on what we would be forced to put into our bodies.
[13:11] Kim Monson: And that is just so against our principles as human beings that at that point in time, I realized we have danger, danger here.
[13:21] Kim Monson: And so that was just a few years ago.
[13:27] Kim Monson: And then in Colorado, with the COVID- 19Wuhan China virus reaction disruption, the legislature pushed through some other vaccination legislation.
[13:37] Kim Monson: And I realized, I looked at this, Leslie, and I realized they've been playing long ball on a public policy field here.
[13:49] Kim Monson: And we didn't even really know it, but it really put in place this huge reaction to what happened to our economy, to our lives, when the government, the bureaucrats and the politicians came in and closed things down and now are seeing forced vaccinations.
[14:03] Kim Monson: So I was much later to taking a look at this, Leslie.
[14:15] Leslie Manookian: Well, first of all, my movie, you can see it at greatergoodmovie.
[14:19] Leslie Manookian: And then I have a kind of a personal blog, which is just lesliemannupin.
[14:24] Leslie Manookian: And I wrote an article there about, I don't know, six or seven months ago called The Slow March to Authoritarianism.
[14:29] Leslie Manookian: And what I do is explain some of the steps, not all of the steps, but some of the steps that got us to where we are here today.
[14:42] Leslie Manookian: And what people don't realize is that just going back 20 years, go to 9- 11.
[14:50] Leslie Manookian: And what happened was within 45 days, legislation had been drafted and passed called the Patriot Act, which allowed warrantless searches of Americans.
[15:04] Leslie Manookian: And then that unleashed what up until that point would have been considered an egregious violation of our basic human rights, not to mention our constitutional rights.
[15:19] Leslie Manookian: And then within a couple of weeks of that, other legislation called the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act was introduced.
[15:28] Leslie Manookian: and it's been ratified in part or in whole or in part in, I believe, 43 states now.
[15:37] Leslie Manookian: And this was really critical information as well, because that legislation, all on the basis of 9- 11and the potential for bioterrorism, And that legislation accorded extraordinary powers to governors and to unelected health bureaucrats, the state departments of health, in the event of a disease outbreak.
[16:06] Leslie Manookian: And then you look at in 2005, they passed the PrEP Act, which is what President Trump invoked in this, you know, what, February, I think, February or March of 2020.
[16:19] Leslie Manookian: And the PrEP Act allows vets power in the Secretary of Health and Human Services to declare an emergency.
[16:28] Leslie Manookian: And then that initiates a whole slew of contracts and different things.
[16:34] Leslie Manookian: So all of the companies that produce what they deem medical.
[16:40] Leslie Manookian: countermeasures such as masks, tests, and shots, none of those have any liability all because of the PrEP Act.
[16:50] Leslie Manookian: And not only do none of the manufacturers of those things have liability, have no liability, but it's also those who work with them or people who are deemed a program administrator.
[17:00] Leslie Manookian: So the schools and the, you know, drug stores and the, all these different places that are selling and administering these products, they have no liability.
[17:13] Leslie Manookian: So this is just, I mean, you can see it's a recipe for disaster.
[17:16] Leslie Manookian: And it's, I mean, once you dig deeper, it seems to me that there was, that this was all the foundation, you know, was put in place in order to get us to where we are.
[17:26] Leslie Manookian: And there were other pieces of it as well, and that there's something called the National Defense Authorization Act.
[17:32] Leslie Manookian: And this is renewed and revised every year or two years and signed by the president.
[17:39] Leslie Manookian: And the National Defense Authorization Act has essentially deemed that any American can be labeled a terrorist or an enemy combatant for a variety of reasons, which are nothing to do with being a terrorist, but just, you know, having opposition or questioning the government and things like that.
[18:00] Leslie Manookian: And there's also been the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus, which is one of the most basic, I mean, the foundational principle of Western civilization, that we have the right to appear before a judge and appeal against wrongful imprisonment.
[18:18] Leslie Manookian: For people who are deemed domestic threats, you don't have habeas corpus.
[18:27] Leslie Manookian: So all these different pieces of the puzzle have been put in place, and I've only skimmed over the surface of them, to get us to a point where we're still in an emergency a year and a half, more than a year and a half into this.
[18:44] Leslie Manookian: An emergency is clearly something that should be short-term and well-defined, and yet here we are.
[18:51] Leslie Manookian: And so when all this stuff happened last year, because of all the research I've done for almost 20 years, I unfortunately had a very clear perspective as to where it was headed.
[19:03] Leslie Manookian: And it was towards lockdowns and mandates and marginalization of those who choose not to comply with some of these measures.
[19:13] Kim Monson: Well, that is exactly where we are.
[19:15] Kim Monson: Now, do you think that we're headed to another lockdown?
[19:21] Leslie Manookian: I think that the way it's been paid for that for a couple of months.
[19:26] Leslie Manookian: So I take a slightly different perspective about general legacy media than most.
[19:31] Leslie Manookian: I tend to view it more as an indicator of where things are going and how public opinion is being shaped, rather than journalism or something that's reporting on what's going on.
[19:46] Leslie Manookian: For the last month or so, we have been hearing a variety of reports.
[19:52] Leslie Manookian: We've been hearing from Israel that there's a spike in cases.
[20:03] Leslie Manookian: And they had had very, very low case numbers until the 24th or 25th of June.
[20:10] Leslie Manookian: OK, and then I heard from the Seychelles, which is one of the most vaccinated countries on the planet, that they that they were having they've had six deaths.
[20:31] Leslie Manookian: Israel is going to reimplement mask mandates and they're going to consider full lockdown measures again.
[20:40] Leslie Manookian: And then what comes next is a couple of weeks later is, oh, all of the cases are in the unvaccinated, even though that's not what the data actually shows.
[20:49] Leslie Manookian: So what ended up happening was it started leaking out that in Israel, in the UK and other places that somewhere between 40 and 80 percent of the cases are actually in fully vaccinated individuals?
[21:02] Leslie Manookian: And um, but you hear the rhetoric in the united states with the president saying that people who don't get the shot are killers.
[21:11] Leslie Manookian: I'm telling you, man, he said you've heard fauci saying that we're going to have to have local mandates in order to get to the 93 million people who haven't gotten the shot.
[21:23] Leslie Manookian: Literally, I mean asking papers: please, essentially, have you gotten the shot?
[21:29] Leslie Manookian: And if not, pressuring you at your own doorstep and then calling someone who will administer the shot to you.
[21:34] Leslie Manookian: So all of these things are part of a bigger, I think, kind of mosaic.
[21:42] Leslie Manookian: Clearly now, what I just saw this morning is that the unvaccinated are to blame for everything that's going on.
[21:50] Leslie Manookian: And there's a new variant that's developing in the unvaccinated.
[21:56] Leslie Manookian: And the reason that they're saying that is because one, they've been massaging the numbers in order to make it look, which I can drill on, drill down on if you want to hear more about that.
[22:05] Leslie Manookian: But they've basically been faking the numbers by not counting breakthrough cases in unvaccinated people since April and not reporting them unless they end up in hospital or death.
[22:20] Leslie Manookian: So basically not counting those cases that happen in the vaccinated in the United States, but abroad in Israel and the UK, we have very good data that the cases are predominantly in the vaccinated and it's all Delta variants.
[22:35] Leslie Manookian: So now they're trying to say that there's a new variant, because the narrative about the vaccine working is breaking down.
[22:47] Leslie Manookian: And I think the whole point is that they're saying, you know, you are going to be pushed to the margins of society.
[22:53] Leslie Manookian: A former Obama administration official said the other day, I think yesterday, that you will need to be put on a no-fly list if you are unvaccinated.
[23:07] Leslie Manookian: In Italy, they're calling for people to not be able to vote or run for office if they're not vaccinated and not to be able to travel on long distance trains and things.
[23:18] Leslie Manookian: So, yes, I don't think this is over by any stretch of the imagination.
[23:26] Leslie Manookian: And you already see that, you know, New Orleans, Louisiana, San Francisco, San Mateo, they've re-implemented mask mandates.
[23:37] Leslie Manookian: California, New York City and the VA have all mandated the shots for their staff.
[23:44] Leslie Manookian: And the problem is, as the powers that be view it, is that 93 million American adults haven't complied.
[23:51] Leslie Manookian: And so the way that they're going to make them comply is by forcing them to the margins of society.
[24:00] Kim Monson: It's absolutely unbelievable, Leslie.
[24:05] Kim Monson: I'm talking with Leslie Mnookian, and she is a former Wall Street executive.
[24:11] Kim Monson: She's done this documentary, The Greater Good.
[24:14] Kim Monson: And then she's also the founder of Health Freedom Defense Funds.
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[25:23] Kim Monson: We are an independent voice and searching for truth and clarity on these issues by looking at them through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[25:32] Kim Monson: And on the line with me is Hal Van Herke.
[25:35] Kim Monson: He and his wife, Linnea, are truly entrepreneurs.
[25:38] Kim Monson: They own Castlegate Knife and Tool, which is located right here in Sedalia, Colorado.
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[25:47] Kim Monson: Hal Van Herke, welcome to the show.
[25:52] Kim Monson: And yesterday was your great event, Your knife sharpening, Your everyday carry knife sharpening event.
[26:03] Hal Van Hercke: Yeah, we had a little event For the local community To come out and get your Everyday carry knife sharpened.
[26:09] Hal Van Hercke: We're really proud of our knife sharpening service.
[26:13] Hal Van Hercke: We can sharpen everyday carry knives, Kitchen knives, Any knife you have, We can sharpen it And if you want to know how much it costs, it's generally$ 1..
[26:26] Hal Van Hercke: So if you have a six-inch knife, a kitchen knife you want to get sharpened, just multiply$ 1.
[26:34] Hal Van Hercke: Great service, professionally done, best equipment available on the planet, professionally trained sharpeners.
[26:44] Kim Monson: Well, and it's a service that I think is really, really needed.
[26:49] Kim Monson: so to be able to get them sharpened and continue their use.
[26:54] Kim Monson: Do knives ever wear out, or can you just continue to sharpen them forever, or do they ever wear out?
[27:00] Hal Van Hercke: The way we sharpen it, it takes very little steel off of the knife, or in some cases, none.
[27:06] Hal Van Hercke: But over time they will get to the point where you sharpen them back into the thicker part of the blade, to the point where they either have to be reprofiled or they start to lose their functionality.
[27:21] Kim Monson: Well, it's a great new service that you have.
[27:23] Kim Monson: And, again, when you invest in these knives, it's important to have a professional that will be sharpening them as well.
[27:31] Kim Monson: And people can get more information at castlegate.
[27:36] Kim Monson: And, Hal, jumping over here, this conversation that we're having with Leslie Mnookian regarding the potential shutdowns, just what is happening out there.
[27:47] Kim Monson: What do you what's your read on this, Hal?
[27:52] Hal Van Hercke: Yeah, I think that one thing that really brought to mind for me is something that I've mentioned on your show several times, is that the biggest threat right now to force, you know, force vaccinations or a vaccine passport or to any of our individual freedoms going forward, is this really unholy alliance between big government and big corporations, whether it's the big social media platforms, big media or even big corporations like Walmart, Amazon, et cetera, because these are the instruments that the government is using to, you know, carry the water for them on this.
[28:32] Hal Van Hercke: If you look at the shutdowns in New York City, it's a common, you know, they're saying, well, you can't go to government locations, but you also can't go to these locations.
[28:42] Hal Van Hercke: The very first groups of people that were jumping on the mask mandate for their employees and for their customers most recently were large corporations, where I can see around town.
[28:53] Hal Van Hercke: Now, when I walk into some of the major stores, they're asking me to wear masks.
[28:55] Hal Van Hercke: And this is the textbook literal definition of what's called corporatism, which is the signature element of fascism.
[29:09] Hal Van Hercke: And we know how that went in Italy under Mussolini and in Germany under Hitler.
[29:14] Hal Van Hercke: And this is when the government sits back and makes the dictates and has their big corporations carry the agenda.
[29:21] Hal Van Hercke: So I think it's very important for small businesses to push back against this, for all businesses to push back against this, and for people to support the ones that are challenging the government and challenging this trend and fighting for freedom to support them with their business and their support and PR, public relations, for the small businesses that are fighting this.
[29:45] Kim Monson: Well, and that is so important in small businesses.
[29:50] Kim Monson: They are the engine of the American economy, and Castlegate Knife and Tool is one of those great small businesses out there.
[29:58] Kim Monson: I so appreciate your entrepreneurship.
[30:02] Kim Monson: I also appreciate your partnership, and I also appreciate your wisdom.
[30:07] Kim Monson: And I so appreciate all of my sponsors.
[30:10] Kim Monson: And on the line with me is Leslie Mnookian.
[30:13] Kim Monson: She is a former Wall Street executive, and she has created, written, and produced this documentary, The Greater Good.
[30:23] Kim Monson: Leslie, when did you release this documentary?
[30:41] Leslie Manookian: A documentary, depending on the quality, can take three to five years to make.
[30:47] Leslie Manookian: And so it was a long time and 20 years of research, you know.
[30:51] Kim Monson: So tell us about this, The Greater Good.
[30:54] Leslie Manookian: So as I mentioned earlier, I was working on Wall Street and getting sicker and sicker and didn't know why.
[31:01] Leslie Manookian: And I kept going to the doctor and asking, you know, what was wrong?
[31:03] Leslie Manookian: And he finally said, I know you're sick, you know you're sick, but you should go and see a homeopath or an acupuncturist because I can't help you.
[31:15] Leslie Manookian: And then I learned about this and about vaccines and that there was, you know, that they're not safe for every single person in the same dose and in the same numbers.
[31:28] Leslie Manookian: And the greater good was the culmination of many, many years of research.
[31:34] Leslie Manookian: And what we did was we followed the stories of three families whose children were affected by vaccinations.
[31:42] Leslie Manookian: And we wove together those stories with the expert perspective of doctors, scientists, and advocates from all perspectives on the issue.
[31:55] Leslie Manookian: And so what we did was we had, you know, some of the most prominent pro-vaccine scientists sharing their perspective.
[32:03] Leslie Manookian: And then we had some of the doctors who are seeing vaccine injury in their practices talk about that.
[32:11] Leslie Manookian: And so we the main person in the film was a woman named Barbara Lowe Fisher, who is the president and co-founder of the National Vaccine Information Center.
[32:25] Leslie Manookian: And we basically talk about what we do and what we don't know, and why.
[32:29] Leslie Manookian: There are questions about vaccinations for a lot of people.
[32:33] Kim Monson: Well, and people can go to your website.
[32:36] Kim Monson: This is Leslie, and it's L-E-S-L-I-E, Manoukian.
[32:55] Leslie Manookian: org, and there are tons of resources on that website as well.
[32:58] Leslie Manookian: 200 science, you know, papers published in the medical literature documenting autoimmune disease and death and learning disabilities and arthritis and cognitive impairment and a whole spectrum of injuries that result from vaccinations, which are just not talked about.
[33:20] Kim Monson: So you can go to the website, thegreatergoodmovie.
[33:22] Kim Monson: org, and then can you purchase it right there?
[33:28] Kim Monson: And you can just go ahead and do all that right there?
[33:32] Kim Monson: And then you can buy the DVD, it says also.
[33:35] Kim Monson: And again, so that is greatergoodmovie.
[33:42] Leslie Manookian: Can I just say, our objective was just to basically share information that wasn't making it into the public domain.
[33:49] Leslie Manookian: And we were very naive, because we thought the only reason it wasn't making it into the public domain is because people just didn't know.
[33:55] Leslie Manookian: I really believe that if we just made that movie and shared with people that there was a debate and that it was real and it was legitimate, and there were genuine scientists publishing research and asking questions about the ingredients and shots and the impact of them on our children and on healthy adults.
[34:13] Leslie Manookian: I thought if we did that, that health officials would have the conversation that needs to happen, that the media would report it, that Congress would get involved, and that all things would happen.
[34:29] Kim Monson: I'm just thinking about young parents out there now, because the research that I've done is the number of vaccinations that were given to my children is significantly less than what kids are being given now, and so that schedule is increased significantly, and I guess one of the follow the money things is is big pharma makes money if there's more and more vaccines that are given to kids.
[35:01] Kim Monson: And of course, then if you come in and mandate them, then they make more and more money on that.
[35:06] Kim Monson: But what about that mom and dad out there with little ones that they want the very best for their kids, they want to take care of them, and their doctors are all recommending these vaccines, what do you say to them?
[35:20] Leslie Manookian: Well, to those people, you have to encourage them, really beseech them to go out and do their own research.
[35:28] Leslie Manookian: And when I say go out and do their own research, unfortunately, you can't look to the CDC for the evidence that we show in our film or is on the website and on other websites.
[35:40] Leslie Manookian: You can't because they don't talk about it and they don't show it.
[35:44] Leslie Manookian: So you really have to go and look at the National Vaccine Information Center.
[35:52] Leslie Manookian: He had amazing information, but he's been threatened so much he's taking his website down today.
[35:57] Leslie Manookian: 25 years, 15,000 articles, he's taking them down tonight because he's been threatened.
[36:03] Leslie Manookian: So the point is that people have to go and research for themselves.
[36:08] Leslie Manookian: And I want to just connect the dots of what you just said, Kim, because it's really important that people understand the background.
[36:12] Leslie Manookian: In the 1970s and early 80s, there were so many children were suffering catastrophic vaccine injury, brain injuries from the DPT shot, the diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus shot that parents sued the vaccine makers.
[36:36] Leslie Manookian: They went to trial and the juries awarded them millions and millions of dollars, so much so that the vaccine industry went to Congress and basically said, we're going to stop making vaccines if you don't protect us.
[36:48] Leslie Manookian: And what ended up happening was Congress passed something called the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986.
[36:55] Leslie Manookian: It was signed by Reagan in 86 and it really took effect in 1988.
[37:03] Leslie Manookian: And that act did some really, really horrible things and a couple of good things.
[37:08] Leslie Manookian: The most horrible thing it did was it gave complete immunity, virtually complete immunity to the vaccine makers for financial and legal liability for their products.
[37:19] Leslie Manookian: You cannot sue a vaccine maker if something happens to you or your child from a vaccine ever since that.
[37:31] Leslie Manookian: The families go and get them for their shots, get them for their children.
[37:36] Leslie Manookian: And then something happens and they're on their own, essentially.
[37:40] Leslie Manookian: What they can do is they can apply to something called the vaccine court, the National Vaccine Compensation Program.
[37:53] Leslie Manookian: So basically, you've got the situation where the vaccine makers have no liability.
[37:59] Leslie Manookian: So their number of shots, there's an incentive to keep increasing the number of shots.
[38:04] Leslie Manookian: And so what happened was in the early 1980s, children got 11 doses of four vaccines in their first year of life.
[38:11] Leslie Manookian: And today, a child who follows the schedule will get 26 or seven doses of nine vaccines in their first year of life, starting at birth.
[38:24] Leslie Manookian: The hepatitis b vaccine is given within 12 hours of birth for a disease that 99 of children have zero risk of contracting because it's sexually transmitted or um iv drug use, you know needle transmitted.
[38:36] Leslie Manookian: So we have a situation where the vaccination schedule has exploded.
[38:42] Leslie Manookian: You and I, I'm 57, so I was born in 64 and you know I got a few shots in my first year of life and and then I got a few shots at school and then that was it.
[38:50] Leslie Manookian: And then now children, if they follow the schedule, it's 72 doses of 17 vaccines now.
[39:16] Leslie Manookian: I mean, can anybody argue that it is so much more dangerous today than it was in 1985?
[39:23] Leslie Manookian: Nobody, there weren't kids getting sick everywhere and dying and there weren't all these problems.
[39:27] Leslie Manookian: I mean, when I was little, we all had the chicken pox and not only did we have the chicken pox, but we flew on an airplane with a chicken pox and no one said a word because it was so, it was just a rite of passage of childhood, you know?
[39:40] Kim Monson: Yeah, try doing that these days, Leslie Mnookian.
[39:46] Kim Monson: We're going to go to break here in just a moment, but before we do that, I'm talking with Leslie Mnookian.
[39:53] Kim Monson: And there's really three websites to take a look at.
[39:56] Kim Monson: And one of them is the, let's see, it is the greatergoodmovie.
[40:06] Kim Monson: and then also your Leslie Mnookian, and that is L-E-S-L-I-E-M-A-N-O-O-K-I-A-N.
[40:18] Kim Monson: And then we're going to be talking about this latest one, and you are the founder of Health Freedom Defense Fund.
[40:25] Kim Monson: And, oh, my gosh, did you ever believe that we would be doing what's going on here in America right now?
[40:35] Kim Monson: You will not want to miss this next segment.
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[41:16] Kim Monson: And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
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[41:38] Kim Monson: We're an alternative voice out there.
[41:40] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity on these issues by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[41:47] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[41:51] Kim Monson: On the line with me is Leslie Mnookian.
[41:53] Kim Monson: She is a former Wall Street executive.
[41:56] Kim Monson: She has produced the movie The Greater Good, The Greater Good Movie, And then she is the founder of Health Freedom Defense Fund.
[42:06] Kim Monson: And Leslie Mnookian never dreamed how important health freedom would be.
[42:11] Kim Monson: We're facing it right now with these force mandates and force vaccinations and just all that's going on in America.
[42:22] Kim Monson: So what's going on with Health Freedom Defense Fund?
[42:24] Leslie Manookian: Well, Kim, the movie and my work for the last 20 years really solidified in me the importance of protecting our most basic of human rights, which is bodily autonomy.
[42:39] Leslie Manookian: I don't think that there's anything that really can trump that.
[42:42] Leslie Manookian: You know, people say that freedom of speech is important, and I 100%agree.
[42:46] Leslie Manookian: But, I mean, if you are an animal and you can be, you know, if you can be forced to inject something into your body or put something in your body or eat something that you don't want to eat or take a drug you don't want to eat, then you're really just an animal.
[43:01] Leslie Manookian: And so Health Freedom Defense Fund, I founded because this low erosion of our rights has been going on for a very, very long time.
[43:12] Leslie Manookian: And so because of all my research and what has been going on the last few years before we got to 2020, it was very clear to me what was going to go on with respect to the reaction, you know, the official response to this outbreak.
[43:27] Leslie Manookian: And Health Freedom Defense Fund is here to protect our health freedoms.
[43:34] Leslie Manookian: We've already forced the Los Angeles Unified School District to back down from their vaccine mandate for their employees.
[43:41] Leslie Manookian: and we helped some of their employees to sue the school district.
[43:48] Leslie Manookian: We filed a federal lawsuit against the Biden administration over their travel mask mandate for airplanes and travel hubs and things like that.
[43:56] Leslie Manookian: And this week we actually filed, we're helping a school teacher in Arizona to defend his right to not wear a mask at school.
[44:09] Leslie Manookian: So basically, we're in a situation where we are seeing essentially medical tyranny imposed on us under the guise of health.
[44:23] Leslie Manookian: And the truth is that these measures are not really about our health.
[44:30] Leslie Manookian: There are tons of scientists and doctors who say that masks are, one, extremely dangerous, and two, they don't work.
[44:40] Leslie Manookian: And yet they are continuing to state in public that they work and mask us.
[44:48] Leslie Manookian: It conceals our avatar, our face, the way that we interact with everybody else in society, right?
[44:58] Leslie Manookian: So masks are, I think, a really, really dangerous norm to be setting.
[45:07] Leslie Manookian: And, you know, all these universities are saying if the kids won't get the shots and they have to be tested every week and businesses are piling on as well.
[45:14] Leslie Manookian: Now, these tests are really invasive and they're also very inaccurate.
[45:18] Leslie Manookian: And so then you can be quarantined for two weeks or something because you've tested positive, even though there's a very good likelihood that it's a false positive.
[45:27] Leslie Manookian: And there's a huge debate about the test and whether or not they're real and legitimate.
[45:33] Leslie Manookian: And let's be honest, these are extremely new technology, brand new technology, mRNA, injecting genetic code into your system.
[45:42] Leslie Manookian: And they're also, you know, you're breaking the skin, your barrier.
[45:46] Leslie Manookian: You are being forced to inject something into your body that's experimental, that's a revolutionary new technology, that when tested in animals killed all the animals.
[45:58] Leslie Manookian: and most importantly and that's causing all sorts of adverse reactions in people and that's you can find this online from the vaccine adverse events reporting system VAERS that the government runs 500, 000reports of adverse reactions 45, 000serious adverse reactions and somewhere around 10, 000deaths and yet these shots are not being pulled off the market they're not being halted.
[46:25] Leslie Manookian: And most importantly, like I said, if we don't have the right to choose what we put into our bodies, then we are not free.
[46:37] Leslie Manookian: If they have to resort to coercion in order to get people to take this, then there's a problem with the product.
[46:47] Kim Monson: Well, and I have a lot of people in my life that I care immensely about that have chosen to get the vaccine, and that should be their right to do that.
[46:59] Kim Monson: I like to make sure that all the information is out there available to people as they are making their decisions.
[47:06] Kim Monson: And so it's beyond belief that this, sometimes I feel like this is just a bad dream that's happening in America.
[47:17] Kim Monson: And so now, this movement to marginalize at least 93 million people.
[47:24] Kim Monson: I'm not sure they're even telling us the truth on the number of people that have been vaccinated, because I think that there are more people that are choosing the wait and see approach on this than the mainstream media will actually probably indicate.
[47:38] Kim Monson: But anyway, 93 million people, that's a lot of people that they're going to work to marginalize, Leslie.
[47:49] Leslie Manookian: And you're right, the number is higher because it's 93 who are unvaccinated, according to the official figures.
[47:55] Leslie Manookian: But there's another big piece of that, which is that roughly 20% of thepeople who got the first shot of the two- shot series didn'tget the second shot.
[48:22] Leslie Manookian: People are developing blood clots, people are having strokes, they're developing bruising they are.
[48:29] Leslie Manookian: And then people who are near the people who've gotten the shots are actually being affected as well.
[48:35] Leslie Manookian: I've heard stories of husbands who sleep next to a wife who got the shot, who have unbelievable testicular pain.
[48:40] Leslie Manookian: I know young women who have roommates in college who have gotten the shot, and they didn't themselves, and their periods have been changed.
[48:51] Leslie Manookian: I know a young woman who got the shot, and she's the niece of a friend of mine's friend, and she's had a period for, she's been bleeding heavily for 15 days, and this has never happened to her before.
[49:06] Leslie Manookian: And most importantly, we know from something called the biodistribution reports that were obtained through Japanese authorities on the Pfizer shot that these, the lipid nanoparticle carrier, so there's all this genetic material and it's carried in this like fatty kind of envelope in order to make it go through your body, get into your cells and things.
[49:29] Leslie Manookian: This stuff is accumulating in higher proportions in the ovaries.
[49:43] Leslie Manookian: And we do know that they're having all sorts of irregular periods, periods, you know, several times in two months, in a month or two months.
[49:53] Leslie Manookian: And then on top of that, there's this other big thing, which is that there have been, I think it's been a couple thousand cases by now of what's called Thank you.
[50:05] Leslie Manookian: Pericarditis is inflammation of the sac that surrounds the heart.
[50:10] Leslie Manookian: And this is happening predominantly in younger men, people who are like 14 to 16 to 24 or five, I think.
[50:18] Leslie Manookian: And they essentially now have the heart of a 70 year old after this.
[50:31] Leslie Manookian: Mike Yeadon, who was Pfizer's chief scientific officer for, I think, 16 or 17 years, he's come out saying that, you know, listen, there is no way that this is an accident.
[50:44] Leslie Manookian: It's no way it's an oversight because the data is so important.
[50:49] Leslie Manookian: And just to give people perspective, in the swine flu outbreak of 1976, about 40 million Americans were vaccinated for that.
[50:59] Leslie Manookian: And roughly 600 developed Guillain-Barre syndrome, which is paralysis.
[51:06] Leslie Manookian: And about 25 to 50 people died from the shot and they pulled the shot off the market.
[51:12] Leslie Manookian: Why are we in a situation now where 10,000 have died, 45,000 had serious adverse reactions and half a million have had reactions and nothing's being done.
[51:24] Leslie Manookian: And it's acknowledged that those numbers are way, way less.
[51:28] Leslie Manookian: So Health, Freedom and Defense Fund is working to expose what we believe is mistruths being put out by the mainstream media and by health agencies.
[51:39] Leslie Manookian: And so we are filing lawsuits against vaccine mandates, mask mandates and other mandates in order to expose this.
[51:48] Leslie Manookian: and we've got a bunch in the works, and more than anything, we need listener support because we can't do this work without their support.
[51:54] Leslie Manookian: So that's a bit of what's going on, and I think that it's going to get worse, Kim, because they have not achieved what they wanted to achieve.
[52:04] Kim Monson: And what is, that's the big question, why?
[52:08] Kim Monson: We always talk about follow the money, but it seems more than just that.
[52:11] Kim Monson: What do you think, what's the big why on this?
[52:22] Leslie Manookian: What I think is the better way to think about it is, why do they care so much that everybody receive these shots?
[52:33] Leslie Manookian: Why is there such a coordinated agenda in countries all over the world?
[52:38] Leslie Manookian: And why is it, I mean, I don't know the answer to this, but why is it that five leaders of countries who refuse the shots, have all been assassinated.
[52:56] Leslie Manookian: Well, the Tanzanian president was, he supposedly had a heart issue, but he didn't have a heart issue.
[53:05] Leslie Manookian: After testing papaya, testing birds, a goat, I think a can of Coke or something like that, and finding all these positives.
[53:15] Leslie Manookian: So all of these different things tested positive for SARS-CoV-2.
[53:19] Leslie Manookian: And he refused, and he's a scientist, actually, and he said that this test is not capable of telling us what they say it tells us, and we're not doing it.
[53:28] Leslie Manookian: So he really shunned them and exposed them, and he wound up dead.
[53:31] Leslie Manookian: And now they've installed someone new who is very pro the World Health Organization, pro the UN, the IMF, and pro vaccines.
[53:40] Leslie Manookian: And I think Burundi, and I'm trying to think of all the other countries, and the most recent one was Haiti.
[53:49] Leslie Manookian: All of these leaders, all men of color, have rejected the shots for their countries and wound up dead.
[53:55] Leslie Manookian: And it's generally believed, and I think it's been fairly documented in the, not in the mainstream media, but in the independent media, that they were assassinated.
[54:05] Leslie Manookian: And so I think that, you know, coming full circle to your question, we really have to ask ourselves, if government has to force this on us and thinks it's their prerogative to do so, first of all, we've got a problem because government shouldn't have that power.
[54:19] Leslie Manookian: If government has the power to tell us what to put in our bodies, government has too much power.
[54:27] Leslie Manookian: We have to draw a line in the sand and say we're not going to comply.
[54:29] Leslie Manookian: And if they have to push so hard, if they have to coerce you to give you million-dollar lotteries and all sorts of iPads and iPods and all these different incentives in order to get a product, then what's wrong with the product?
[54:46] Leslie Manookian: And if they have to protect these companies from liability, Pfizer has estimated they will make$ 33 billion, billion in revenue from the shots.
[54:57] Leslie Manookian: If they can make that kind of money with no liability, why should we take the shot if they won't stand behind behind their own product, why should I take that product?
[55:09] Leslie Manookian: That suggests to me: one, they have, they don't stand behind their product.
[55:18] Leslie Manookian: And three, that the government is getting involved and pushing this on people should be a red flag to any thinking person.
[55:26] Kim Monson: Hey, Leslie Mnookian, we're just about out of time.
[55:29] Kim Monson: I would recommend that people go to Health Freedom Defense Fund and contribute there.
[55:34] Kim Monson: I have a number of people that reach out to me that are very concerned about being forced to take this vaccine in order to remain employed.
[55:44] Kim Monson: And how would you like to wrap this up?
[55:51] Leslie Manookian: org and learn about all of our legal actions and how you can support us.
[55:58] Leslie Manookian: And becoming a member really helps us because it gives us standing across the country to file lawsuits.
[56:06] Leslie Manookian: And then with respect to the people who are being, you know, being forced, I mean, And Health Freedom Defense Fund and other organizations with which we partner are doing all we can to fight back against these mandates.
[56:21] Leslie Manookian: But the simple truth is that there are not enough lawyers in this country to fight all of the mandates that are coming down.
[56:29] Leslie Manookian: And at some point people are going to have to choose where their line in the sand is and decide: do I want to work for an employer that thinks it is their prerogative to force me to put something into my body against my will?
[56:41] Leslie Manookian: And if they can do that, can they force me to abort my baby?
[56:52] Leslie Manookian: And there are two or three hundred other vaccines in development, so are they going to force all of those?
[56:59] Leslie Manookian: So I think, unfortunately, it's really incumbent upon your listeners to decide for themselves what their principles are and what they're willing to stand up for.
[57:08] Leslie Manookian: And if they won't stand up for that now, what's going to happen in three months, a year, or three years?
[57:20] Kim Monson: Well, Leslie Mnookian, thank you to you for standing up.
[57:25] Kim Monson: And again, that is healthfreedomdefense.
[57:33] Kim Monson: And then your website, Leslie Mnookian.
[57:41] Leslie Manookian: I am so grateful for the opportunity to have this conversation with you.
[57:46] Kim Monson: And our quote for today is from Elie Wiesel.
[57:49] Kim Monson: says, even in darkness, it is possible to create light.
[57:55] Kim Monson: My friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[58:08] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
[58:11] Leslie Manookian: And I don't want no one to cry, But tell them if I don't survive.
[58:21] Promo Voice: I was born free.
[58:24] Promo Voice: I was born free.