[00:05] Announcer: It's the AmeriChicks with Kim Monson.
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[00:10] Kim Monson: That seems to me like government is establishing a religion.
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[00:16] Kim Monson: If you give people rights, women's rights, gay rights, whatever, there can't be equal rights if there's special rights.
[00:24] Announcer: And opinions and ideas that prepare you to tackle the day ahead.
[00:27] Kim Monson: Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom versus force.
[00:31] Announcer: It's the AmeriChicks, dissecting issues as right versus wrong, instead of right versus left.
[00:37] Announcer: Agree or disagree, let's have a conversation.
[00:44] Kim Monson: I am Kim Monson, and we've got a great show planned for you today.
[00:48] Kim Monson: Excited to have in studio with me one of my advertising partners, and that is Jason McBride.
[00:56] Kim Monson: And you are with Presidential Wealth Management.
[00:58] Kim Monson: And we are doing a really fun event.
[01:00] Kim Monson: I'm so excited about it next Monday night.
[01:04] Kim Monson: It's the tools to be successful as far as your own personal economy.
[01:09] Kim Monson: And it's going to be over at Water's Edge Winery.
[01:11] Kim Monson: Jen Hewlin, I've done a lot of different events with her over there.
[01:15] Kim Monson: And it's always an interesting, special evening.
[01:17] Kim Monson: So I'm excited to do this with you, Jason.
[01:21] Jason McBride: And Kim, we plan to do these a couple times a year with different subjects.
[01:26] Jason McBride: This first one will be about some old market adages, which ones are just old wives tales, no offense intended, and which ones might hold some water and how it can help you maybe improve your results and reduce your risk too.
[01:44] Jason McBride: We've got a fellow named Jeffrey Hirsch coming.
[01:50] Jason McBride: That thing's been around forever and ever and ever.
[01:58] Jason McBride: He's been on Bloomberg, Fox News, CNBC, all over the place.
[02:02] Jason McBride: I said, well, you're finally breaking through to the big time.
[02:06] Kim Monson: And, you know, Jason, I think you know this, but when I came to Colorado, I initially worked at a bank for a couple of years, and then I worked on a stock trading desk.
[02:14] Kim Monson: And that was back in the days where you had a line to each of the trading desks throughout the country.
[02:20] Kim Monson: And most of them went back to New York.
[02:22] Kim Monson: And so I have a real appreciation for New Yorkers.
[02:31] Jason McBride: They just, Kurt, they're going to tell you how it is.
[02:33] Jason McBride: So I think New Yorkers are actually very, very nice.
[02:37] Kim Monson: Well, and speaking of that, tomorrow is 9-11.
[02:41] Kim Monson: And back right around that time, I've also been in the women's clothing business for many years.
[02:48] Kim Monson: And I would go back to New York on a regular basis.
[02:53] Kim Monson: So that was, what, four months after 9-11.
[02:58] Kim Monson: And I went down to where the Trade Center had been.
[03:01] Kim Monson: And I was actually a little nervous about going back.
[03:06] Kim Monson: And I realized New Yorkers, they were ready to rebuild their city.
[03:12] Kim Monson: And a lot of people stayed away for a while because, I mean, we were just all on edge.
[03:16] Kim Monson: We just didn't know what was going on.
[03:17] Kim Monson: But I went down to the Trade Center site and, you know, it truly is sacred ground.
[03:23] Kim Monson: But I just remember a cab driver just so, he was a New Yorker, but he was really nice.
[03:30] Kim Monson: And so I'm excited about having Jeff come in next week.
[03:38] Jason McBride: I actually ended up in New York just maybe a week after that happened.
[03:45] Jason McBride: But you could get a couple blocks away, and it was kind of bizarre.
[03:51] Announcer: It was.
[03:51] Jason McBride: It was unsettling because when you're down there at night, they had all the lights on, lighting up the side, and you could still see all the dust in the air.
[04:01] Jason McBride: The strange thing that kind of struck me was, yeah, probably three, four, five.
[04:10] Jason McBride: It just really told you, boy, you're kind of inhaling what used to be part of the World Trade Center because you could still smell that smell of cement in the air.
[04:27] Jason McBride: If you ever need to skip your cardio for the day, just grab a cab ride in New York.
[04:38] Kim Monson: Yeah, so anyway, tomorrow will be the, I don't know if the anniversary is the right word, of 9-11, but just, I mean, I think we can all remember where we were at that particular point in time.
[04:50] Kim Monson: But it's great to have you here and it's going to be really fun and have Jeff Herschen next week.
[04:54] Kim Monson: And so you do need to register for that.
[04:57] Kim Monson: And so you can go to chickspresidential.
[05:01] Kim Monson: Or you can go to my website at marichicks.
[05:06] Kim Monson: It's going to be a really fun evening.
[05:09] Kim Monson: We're also going to be talking with Kevin Sorbo in the second segment.
[05:13] Kim Monson: He is the keynote speaker at Grand Lakes U.
[05:17] Kim Monson: Constitution Week, which will be starting next Monday.
[05:20] Kim Monson: And at the end of the week, on the 20th, on Friday, there will be a meet and greet that evening.
[05:27] Kim Monson: And then on the 21st, on Saturday, is the main event.
[05:35] Kim Monson: There will be a fabulous music festival, and the Kansas City Barbecue Society is going to be in doing a competition.
[05:42] Kim Monson: And so we're going to give away four tickets.
[05:45] Kim Monson: The value is$ 300, and we will draw tomorrow after the show.
[05:50] Kim Monson: So four people to get VIP tickets to the Friday night event and the Saturday VIP seating.
[05:57] Kim Monson: And so if you are interested in signing up for that, again, go to my website at marichicks.
[06:03] Kim Monson: So, let's jump in here though, as we are looking at each of these issues.
[06:08] Kim Monson: Jason, it's freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[06:17] Jason McBride: I'd rather choose to do something, and I think that pretty much everybody really feels the same way.
[06:24] Jason McBride: Even those that are thinking about voting for socialism, I can't imagine that they want to be forced to do anything.
[06:33] Kim Monson: And socialism ultimately comes down to force.
[06:36] Kim Monson: And you know, Jason, if something's a really good idea, then you probably don't really need to force people.
[06:44] Jason McBride: If socialism is so great, why does it have to be mandatory?
[06:48] Kim Monson: So we look at each of these issues as force versus freedom, freedom versus force.
[06:53] Kim Monson: And one of my friends had reached out.
[06:55] Kim Monson: She said that, Kim, it's probably would be great if in And each of these you can actually give examples of freedom versus force because I think people think, well, gosh, I'm not really being forced on things.
[07:07] Kim Monson: So we're going to continue to work to kind of peel that out for folks on that.
[07:10] Kim Monson: So we are seeing a continual here in Colorado, a socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing, and water.
[07:19] Kim Monson: And so we will continue to push back on these things, because government is supposed to get out of the way.
[07:24] Kim Monson: they're actually supposed to make it easier for us to go after our hopes and dreams, our life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
[07:32] Kim Monson: And when they're socializing transportation, education, energy, housing, and water, they're actually taking away many of our options on that and making things more expensive.
[07:41] Kim Monson: So we will continue to look at that.
[07:43] Kim Monson: I want to say thank you to Steve, the producer.
[07:45] Kim Monson: Steve, it's great to have you here.
[07:49] Producer Steve: I need more.
[07:51] Kim Monson: Well, it's good to have you here running the boards, and thank you to the rest of the team, Zach, Patty, Keith, and Charlie, for your support and your good work.
[07:58] Kim Monson: And thank you to each of you listeners out there as well.
[08:07] Kim Monson: Our inspiration, since you were in studio, I thought, Jason, who would I go to for inspiration in our quotes today?
[08:15] Kim Monson: And, you know, Thomas Sowell is a great economist.
[08:18] Kim Monson: He's out at the Hoover Institute in Stanford.
[08:22] Kim Monson: And one thing, when one of my kids was coming back from college, he was studying economics of Paul Krugman, who is more of a Keynesian and believes in more and more taxes.
[08:36] Kim Monson: And that really doesn't work that well.
[08:38] Kim Monson: Thomas Sowell is a real free market guy.
[08:41] Kim Monson: And so because you were going to be here, I thought that's who I'm going to go to for our quotes today.
[08:45] Kim Monson: So Thomas Sowell, he said, freedom has cost too much blood and agony to be relinquished at the cheap price of rhetoric.
[08:58] Kim Monson: And then I also, I thought this was kind of funny, Steve.
[09:04] Kim Monson: Maybe, maybe you might not, but I have, well, I'll just give you the quote.
[09:09] Kim Monson: The least productive people are usually the ones who are most in favor of holding meetings.
[09:18] Producer Steve: I got to agree.
[09:19] Producer Steve: And Jason, you're still in corporate America.
[09:22] Producer Steve: I've kind of been blessed to be out of it.
[09:25] Producer Steve: But I vividly remember back in my airline days going to a meeting, we were going to discuss the schedule for future meetings.
[09:33] Producer Steve: And the obvious was that you realize we're having a meeting to have more meetings.
[09:39] Kim Monson: And I remember when I was on city council, there was meeting after meeting after meeting.
[09:44] Kim Monson: It got to a point where it felt like sometimes you were just having meetings just to have meetings, and so anyway, I thought that was very profound.
[09:55] Kim Monson: I wanted to just make a few comments.
[09:57] Kim Monson: I hadn't really watched this whole sharpie gate thing with donald trump.
[10:00] Kim Monson: Apparently he, somebody had used a sharpie and encircled alabama and said that hurricane dorian was going to hit alabama and apparently president trump said something about that.
[10:11] Kim Monson: And um my gosh, I guess a number of the weather people were just up in arms that he could be wrong about that.
[10:21] Kim Monson: And then the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration came out and said that actually, initially, they thought maybe it was going to hit there and that President Trump wasn't wrong.
[10:37] Kim Monson: And I do want to make just a comment.
[10:38] Kim Monson: When I first saw this, I saw this in the Denver Post.
[10:42] Kim Monson: Jason, when I tried to Google that article, I could not find it from the Denver Post.
[10:48] Kim Monson: And I went to the Denver Post site, and I could not find it.
[10:50] Jason McBride: Wouldn't it be nice in real life if you could just delete all of your mistakes before people read them or saw them?
[10:59] Kim Monson: But anyway, and my point on that is I just thought it was odd that I couldn't find that article because it basically came out and said that Donald Trump was not wrong, that, in fact, at some point in time, they weren't sure where it was going to hit.
[11:19] Kim Monson: Monica Medina, a former top official at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, who served in the administrations of former presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, said the statement will make us less safe as a country.
[11:34] Kim Monson: Bill Reed, who became director of the National Hurricane Center, director during the Republican George W.
[11:39] Kim Monson: Bush administration, said on Facebook, the NOAA statement showed either an embarrassing lack of understanding of forecasting or a lack of courage on their part by not supporting the people in the field who are actually doing the work.
[11:54] Kim Monson: So in essence, what is going on here is you've got, you know, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration came out and said that President Trump was not wrong.
[12:08] Kim Monson: And then you've got all these other kind of former bureaucrats that are saying that, you know, how dare they do that?
[12:15] Kim Monson: And how often are all these weather people normally right?
[12:18] Kim Monson: I mean, aren't they wrong every once in a while, Jason?
[12:22] Jason McBride: And, you know, in fact, I saw that they had showed the initial maps that they were looking at that President Trump had seen earlier that morning.
[12:32] Jason McBride: There were all kinds of lines on that map of the possible trajectory of Dorian.
[12:39] Jason McBride: These were official maps that showed it was possible that that hurricane could have touched Alabama.
[12:47] Jason McBride: And Trump just hadn't been updated with the new info and the new trajectory at the time that he gave the speech and made the comment.
[12:57] Jason McBride: This is just another one of those ones, Kim, where they want to say, well, there's another one of his 10,000 lies that we'll add to the list.
[13:11] Jason McBride: But to go on and on and on and just pick away at something like this, it's silly.
[13:17] Kim Monson: Well, and I think, I actually think, Jason, that everyday hardworking people are starting to see this and say, wait a minute.
[13:23] Kim Monson: You know, we've got real things that we should be concerned about, real problems that we need to be solving.
[13:29] Kim Monson: And so that is what we need to be doing.
[13:31] Kim Monson: But to my point, how many times has the weather forecast been wrong?
[13:35] Kim Monson: And we just know that that happens.
[13:38] Kim Monson: And so here's these people that are weather forecasters, and they are all over President Trump because he had not had an updated map.
[13:47] Kim Monson: But they're being so self-righteous that they're right all the time.
[13:50] Kim Monson: One other thing I want to say is if they can't get it right, you know, at that particular point in time, how the heck do they think that they're going to tell us what the temperature is going to be in 100 years?
[14:00] Jason McBride: I have no idea, but somehow they seem to be able to predict that.
[14:05] Jason McBride: But you're right, trying to predict the path of an unpredictable hurricane.
[14:10] Jason McBride: And for Trump to just tell the people of Alabama, just be careful because it could hit.
[14:16] Jason McBride: He was being very, very responsible because he knew that nobody could predict which way it was going to go.
[14:22] Kim Monson: And I think it shows that these people, these folks are really disingenuous about what they really care about.
[14:29] Kim Monson: When we come back, we'll be talking with Kevin Sorbo quickly.
[14:32] Kim Monson: He's going to be the keynote up at U.
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[16:04] Kim Monson: I am Kim Monson and we are Dissecting Issues is right versus wrong instead of right versus left.
[16:08] Kim Monson: Agree or disagree, let's have a conversation.
[16:11] Kim Monson: I'm very excited to have on the line with me Kevin Sorbo.
[16:14] Kim Monson: Kevin, you're going to be the keynote speaker up at U.
[16:18] Kim Monson: Constitution Week in Grand Lake in a couple of weeks here.
[16:24] Kevin Sorbo: You were very instrumental in getting me there, so I appreciate that.
[16:30] Kim Monson: They're pretty excited about it as well.
[16:37] Kevin Sorbo: And I've spent a lot of time in Colorado.
[16:40] Kevin Sorbo: Been around a lot of places from Colorado Springs to Steamboat.
[16:43] Kevin Sorbo: I was actually in Steamboat Springs at the Summit Conference there at a film festival.
[16:47] Kevin Sorbo: My latest movie, Miracle in Texas, won Best Movie there, which was pretty cool.
[16:53] Kevin Sorbo: And Telluride as well, and obviously Snowback.
[16:56] Kevin Sorbo: I've done a lot of skiing in both those places.
[16:58] Kim Monson: Well, you are in for a real treat, and it's going to be a real taste of Americana.
[17:02] Kim Monson: They have a parade on Saturday down Main Street, and the Kansas City Barbecue Society is going to be having a competition.
[17:12] Kim Monson: There's going to be a fabulous music festival.
[17:14] Kim Monson: You are the keynote speaker, and what are you going to be talking about, Kevin?
[17:19] Kevin Sorbo: Well, you know, they said they got a lot of experts speaking through the week, really, on the Constitution.
[17:26] Kevin Sorbo: And they wanted me to be there, sort of be a little more entertaining value, So it's how my story and how that works into my belief in the Constitution and what made America great in the first place.
[17:38] Kevin Sorbo: And I will definitely bring up a freedom of speech because I am in Hollywood.
[17:44] Kevin Sorbo: And they're, as you know, not only curtailing across the country, but they're certainly curtailing freedom of speech within Hollywood as well.
[17:53] Kevin Sorbo: So I'll work it in how that has affected me in a good and or bad way.
[17:59] Kevin Sorbo: I've kind of mixed up the speech quite a bit from what I normally do.
[18:04] Kim Monson: So on Friday evening, the 20th, there will be a meet and greet with you.
[18:09] Kim Monson: It's a ticketed event, and we're actually doing a drawing.
[18:12] Kim Monson: We're giving away four tickets to that event.
[18:15] Kim Monson: And if people are interested, they can go to my website, Americhicks.
[18:18] Kim Monson: com, and they can sign up for the drawing.
[18:20] Kim Monson: We'll draw it tomorrow after the show.
[18:22] Kim Monson: Or wait, excuse me, next week after the show.
[18:25] Kim Monson: I'm all mixed up on my dates here, so it'll be next Wednesday after the show.
[18:29] Kim Monson: So go to my website and sign up for that.
[18:32] Kim Monson: And then you will be the keynote then on Saturday.
[18:37] Kim Monson: You'll be the keynote, and there will be VIP seating for that as well.
[18:40] Kim Monson: So go to my website, sign up for that.
[18:46] Kim Monson: And just very quickly, if you'd give us a quick description of your new movie and when that will be coming out.
[18:54] Kevin Sorbo: Well, actually, I've got five movies coming out over the next year.
[18:58] Kevin Sorbo: And I've got three documentaries, and I'm about to start filming another one called Ghetto Tears in Georgia in November.
[19:11] Kevin Sorbo: But the one that's hitting the film festivals right now is called Miracle in East Texas.
[19:17] Kevin Sorbo: It's about two con men, played by myself and John Ratzenberger, that would woo widows out of their money on fake oil wells.
[19:23] Kevin Sorbo: They always sold 500%of the shares that were declared dry hole, and then they'd bust out of town and go do it again at the next town.
[19:30] Kevin Sorbo: When they got to a certain area in East Texas, they actually strike oil.
[19:37] Kevin Sorbo: So it's been interesting in film festivals.
[19:40] Kevin Sorbo: They can't see in the pigeonhole what kind of genre it is.
[19:43] Kevin Sorbo: It won Best Romantic Comedy in Houston.
[19:51] Kevin Sorbo: It won Best State Film in Franklin, Nashville, and won Best Movie just recently up in Steamboat.
[19:58] Kevin Sorbo: So we've got four more events we're going to, and I love the fact that it's sort of all over the place.
[20:07] Kevin Sorbo: It is a true story, as I said, but we've got Lou Gotson Jr.
[20:18] Kevin Sorbo: He's also known to the X- Mencrowd as Sabretooth.
[20:21] Kim Monson: Well, excited about that and really excited about seeing you up at U.
[20:34] Kevin Sorbo: I'll see everybody on the 20th and the 21st there in Grand Lake.
[20:40] Kim Monson: Okay, Jason McBride, let's jump back in here.
[20:43] Kim Monson: There are several things I wanted to chat about.
[20:45] Kim Monson: First of all, in 2010, under the Obama administration, the student loan program was put in government hands.
[20:55] Kim Monson: It was taken out of private hands where banks used to make loans, student loans, and a kid would have to come in and talk about what he or she was going to study and agree to pay that off.
[21:06] Kim Monson: And in 2010, the government took it over under the Obama administration.
[21:10] Kim Monson: and the debt has just ballooned and the costs have gone up.
[21:16] Kim Monson: And the piece that Patty had found here is that perhaps it was one of the biggest accounting frauds in the history of America.
[21:36] Kim Monson: And it said, the Wall Street Journal's editorial board recently suggested that the Obama administration pulled off the biggest accounting fraud in history with student loans when eliminating the role of private lenders in the federal student lending market.
[21:48] Kim Monson: In 2010, Democrats nationalized the market to help pay for Obamacare, the Wall Street Journal asserted.
[21:55] Kim Monson: The Congressional Budget Office at the time forecast that eliminating private lenders would save taxpayers$ 58 billion over 10 years.
[22:04] Kim Monson: This estimate was pure fantasy, and now we are seeing how much.
[22:09] Kim Monson: The Wall Street Journal op- edalso highlighted the rising number of severely delinquent student loans since then and blamed the Obama administration for expanding plans in 2012 for new borrowers to reduce defaults, buy off millennial voters, and disguise the cost of its student loan takeover.
[22:27] Kim Monson: The Wall Street Journal argued that eliminating private lenders from the student loan market severely hurt Americans and that by using fair market accounting, it becomes clear that student loans will actually cost taxpayers nearly$ 307 billion over the next 10 years.
[22:43] Kim Monson: I'm not quite sure how this should cost taxpayers anything, Jason McBride, because I think if people take loans out, they are supposed to pay those off, right?
[23:01] Jason McBride: If you take out a loan, you should be responsible for paying it back, and the taxpayers shouldn't have to take on the burden.
[23:10] Jason McBride: But, yeah, I think when you look at what happened here, Kim, this was simply another play to younger voters to say, we're going to give you free stuff, and that free stuff was, we're going to change the way you have to make your payments, where it's dependent on your income, which could get the payments way, way down.
[23:33] Jason McBride: And then if you remember, there was the big talk about, you know, if you haven't paid the loan off after 20 years, we're just going to forgive the loan and let it go altogether.
[23:42] Jason McBride: So I don't know how anybody in their right mind could have thought that that was a good idea to tell people to delay paying the loan as long as possible, because then maybe you can get out of it.
[23:55] Kim Monson: Well, and let's think about this, Jason.
[23:58] Kim Monson: Let's say that somebody decides to go to trade school or they decide to start a business instead of going to college.
[24:05] Kim Monson: Now, I only have a semester of college, but I graduated with a good, at that time it was a good public education, had an understanding of the American idea, can read and write and speak relatively well, and also the idea that in America anything is possible.
[24:23] Kim Monson: And so what if somebody decides that they're not going to go to school for the four- yearprogram?
[24:29] Kim Monson: And, of course, what you saw back then is if, in fact, when they got out, they couldn't find a job, many kids then went to graduate school and took on more debt.
[24:39] Kim Monson: So how is it fair, then, that somebody that didn't go to school, let's say somebody has a welding business or something like that, How is it fair that they, if they didn't go to college, have to pay taxes to pay for somebody else's college?
[24:55] Jason McBride: Well, I don't think it's okay in any way, shape, or form.
[24:58] Jason McBride: Another group of people that it shouldn't be okay for is those that took out student loans and sweated and toiled and dripped blood and tears and whatever to pay those loans back.
[25:11] Jason McBride: Now, if these other loans are going to be forgiven, shouldn't they get a refund for part of theirs?
[25:23] Kim Monson: So anyway, the other point, though, the takeaway on this is what government did is they took over the student loan program.
[25:33] Kim Monson: And then by force, they are now wanting to forcibly take money from one person to give it to another.
[25:42] Kim Monson: And so once again, one other thing I want to mention is once you got government into this business, the costs go up.
[25:51] Kim Monson: So you can see any RTD, bus or train, or you can be in an airport and you see all the different colleges.
[25:58] Kim Monson: They're all, come here, your future will be great if you come and take out student loans and go to our school.
[26:04] Kim Monson: And then kids get out and they're like, wait, I don't have that six- figurejob and I don't have that corner office.
[26:09] Kim Monson: But you can be anywhere and you can see just by the advertising that there must be a bunch of money involved there.
[26:17] Jason McBride: Well, and the schools are responsible for paying some of those loans back if the kids don't get a good job, right, Kim?
[26:25] Kim Monson: I totally agree with you, but no, that's not the case.
[26:33] Kim Monson: How about instead of the taxpayers having to pay off these loans, Jason, how about these college endowments?
[26:39] Kim Monson: Why don't they start to pay off those loans?
[26:42] Jason McBride: You know, I don't think that a lot of these schools are real big on accountability.
[26:47] Jason McBride: I think once they've got the money and the responsibility for dealing with the debt is on somebody else's hands, it's kind of like, you know, wipe our hands and on how we're going to get the next batch in the door.
[27:03] Kim Monson: So maybe we should start to tap some of the endowments to pay off these loans if that's what, in fact, they want somebody else to pay off these loans.
[27:09] Kim Monson: I think that that would start to bring the cost down of college as well.
[27:13] Jason McBride: Well, use those endowments to offer more scholarships coming directly from your school.
[27:18] Kim Monson: Well, the other thing is remember when there used to be scholarships, and then it went to needs- based?
[27:28] Kim Monson: You know, we wanted to make sure that people are a meritocracy, that they're working hard, that people are rewarded for their merit.
[27:35] Kim Monson: And when we got into all this needs- basedand all these looking at people as groups, once again, you start to see that this plays out, and it doesn't play out well.
[27:48] Jason McBride: It makes me remember back when I was in high school.
[27:54] Jason McBride: I did not ride a horse to school, but it was uphill both ways in the snow.
[28:07] Producer Steve: How long ago has it been since he got you with the drive- in?
[28:11] Producer Steve: Never mind, let's keep going.
[28:15] Producer Steve: Yes, we do, but the payback, I think it just now happens.
[28:18] Producer Steve: There you go.
[28:20] Jason McBride: Well, I didn't get it, so I really wasn't much for payback.
[28:25] Jason McBride: Yeah, so, you know, there was one guy in my class, his name was Keith.
[28:30] Jason McBride: This guy got every scholarship known to the human race.
[28:35] Jason McBride: I mean, he won all of them, and I think he actually became a rocket scientist.
[28:43] Jason McBride: The point is, you know, I remember we didn't have all of this social justice and unfair, and I never for one minute thought, well, that's not fair that he got it, and I didn't.
[28:55] Jason McBride: I was kind of admiring him and saying, wow, that's great.
[29:03] Jason McBride: I mean, he studied, he did all the right things he was supposed to do.
[29:08] Jason McBride: He figured out what they were looking for to give the scholarships, and he did it.
[29:12] Jason McBride: And he deserved every darn one of those that he got, because he worked harder than everybody else.
[29:18] Kim Monson: And I totally agree with you on that.
[29:20] Kim Monson: So one other thing, I know we're running a little along on this, but I wanted to finish this up.
[29:25] Kim Monson: One of the remedies that they're talking about is that kids will start to pay their loans back based on their income.
[29:33] Kim Monson: And it's like, well, wait a minute.
[29:37] Kim Monson: So you're, in essence, you're kind of socializing that whole program as well.
[29:41] Kim Monson: If you say you're going to take out these loans, and I actually heard a kid that said that he was able to take out$ 30, 000in loans, sitting in his parents' basement, you know, filling out a form, and he actually used the money to go on a tobogganing trip or on a kayaking trip.
[29:58] Kim Monson: And so, you know, there was something really wrong with that whole thing, and we need to make sure that we're accountable.
[30:03] Kim Monson: And of course, you have all these Democrat candidates out there, free college, free college, free college.
[30:10] Kim Monson: When we come back, first thing, let's talk about the market.
[30:13] Kim Monson: You always are watching that, Jason McBride, so we'd like to look at that.
[30:18] Kim Monson: And then You found something really interesting about hush puppy shoes.
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[33:01] Kim Monson: So you have a real love of the American idea, Jason McBride.
[33:05] Jason McBride: I still think America is the greatest country ever.
[33:11] Jason McBride: It's the greatest country on the face of the planet.
[33:20] Producer Steve: Can I make a comment there?
[33:21] Producer Steve: Sure.
[33:22] Producer Steve: When he says that, I know him well enough to say it's not just because he lives here.
[33:27] Producer Steve: It's because he's analyzed the way things are done here in this country versus anywhere else in the world.
[33:35] Producer Steve: And I think that's the basis for what he's saying, not just because he lives here.
[33:39] Kim Monson: Right, but he has an understanding of this American idea that the Constitution was put in place to protect each individual's right of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
[33:48] Kim Monson: And when that plays out, it's really good stuff.
[33:51] Producer Steve: That's my editorial opinion of the day, so carry on.
[33:58] Kim Monson: There's a lot of great information.
[33:59] Kim Monson: Last week or the week before, we were talking about this head and shoulders pattern.
[34:13] Jason McBride: That head and shoulders can be a negative pattern if it completes.
[34:18] Jason McBride: And a couple of weeks ago, Kim, I was getting a little bit nervous because it looked like the market was about to complete one.
[34:28] Jason McBride: Now, it doesn't mean that everything's perfect and guarantees we're going straight up.
[34:35] Jason McBride: 54 on the S&P last Thursday, that broke above the top of the left shoulder.
[34:55] Jason McBride: It had what we call a follow- throughday on August 13th.
[34:59] Jason McBride: You know, the very next day, though, we got pounded right out of the chute.
[35:05] Jason McBride: So that kind of put the rally in doubt before it even got started.
[35:12] Jason McBride: And then, as you remember, we got plowed again down about 800 points on the Dow.
[35:18] Jason McBride: But the key was is that the market never broke below that 28.
[35:23] Jason McBride: 22,which was the low it hit after that first sell- off.
[35:27] Jason McBride: Things did look a little bit ugly, but it never broke below that.
[35:31] Jason McBride: And then on September 5th, we had a nice bust higher.
[35:36] Jason McBride: We had a big, decent increase in volume on that move up, which I always try to watch the volume and the price as well.
[35:43] Jason McBride: So the market looks like it's trying to come out of this pattern.
[35:48] Jason McBride: I still think we're kind of in the time of the year where it's a little doldrum- ish.
[35:55] Jason McBride: I still wouldn't be surprised to see a sell- offor unproductiveness, but if we can get through September, most of October, November through May, are historically at least the most productive six months for the markets.
[36:11] Kim Monson: Well, and during that time, wasn't that when we were having politicians and pundits and all that they were kind of rooting for a recession?
[36:23] Jason McBride: Yeah, that's, I don't think that had much to do with it.
[36:30] Jason McBride: I think it was more, again, you know, Trump saying, okay, China, you're not playing ball.
[36:37] Jason McBride: You're violating the rules, so I'm going to hit you with more tariffs.
[36:47] Kim Monson: Let's talk a little bit about the jobs reports because what is that telling us?
[36:53] Kim Monson: What, do they come out once a month?
[36:58] Jason McBride: You know, what I wanted to talk about, Kim, was it's interesting that there's actually two jobs reports.
[37:03] Jason McBride: You know, a lot of people kind of catch this, and I've been confused about it, But the official jobs report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics comes out on the first Friday of every month.
[37:18] Jason McBride: But there's another jobs report from ADP, which that's a private company, and they release a jobs report about two days before.
[37:30] Jason McBride: The BLS report, of course, comes from a government agency.
[37:35] Jason McBride: The ADP report, though, comes from a non- governmentbusiness, and the ADP report gathers the data because ADP is a payroll company.
[37:46] Jason McBride: So they're actually looking at actual payroll data from all of their clients.
[37:51] Jason McBride: The government report does it through surveys of asking businesses to report back on a survey, and that's why we get a revision.
[38:04] Jason McBride: We get the jobs report, a month later we get the revision.
[38:07] Jason McBride: I always like to joke that's because the government can't ever get anything right the first time.
[38:12] Jason McBride: It's actually because about 70% ofthe numbers come in for the first report.
[38:18] Jason McBride: The second revision, it's about another 20% finally getaround to responding.
[38:23] Jason McBride: And there's actually a third revision as well, but you don't see a lot of changes in there.
[38:29] Kim Monson: And so you're pretty far down the road when you get to that third one.
[38:34] Kim Monson: And do you think one is more reliable than the other?
[38:38] Jason McBride: You know, my first thing, because there's a chart here that I sent you, Kim, and isn't this interesting?
[38:51] Jason McBride: And right here, you know, look how they've kind of stayed pretty close together right up until Trump got elected.
[38:59] Jason McBride: And then all of a sudden, the one from ADP, the private one, was showing way more jobs, while the government one was showing jobs shrinking.
[39:08] Jason McBride: And my first thing was, are these deep state people manipulating the jobs report because Trump got elected to try to make it look worse?
[39:18] Jason McBride: So I went back and I actually studied both jobs reports, the ADP one and the official one, since Trump got elected.
[39:29] Jason McBride: And my conspiracy theory, I don't want to be fake news.
[39:34] Jason McBride: If I was the fake news, Kim, I would only talk about this chart, right?
[39:42] Jason McBride: Sometimes they're wildly different in one given month.
[39:46] Jason McBride: but then they usually kind of catch up to each other or balance out over the next couple months.
[39:56] Jason McBride: Since Trump was elected November 2016, we've had 34 jobs reports.
[40:02] Jason McBride: Exactly 50% of the time,the ADP report has shown more jobs growth, And exactly 50% of the time, theBureau of Labor Statistics initial report has shown higher jobs.
[40:37] Jason McBride: But the cumulative totals, Kim, the BLS revised since Trump's election, we've created 6, 483, 000 new payrolls.
[40:39] Jason McBride: So they're prettydarnclose over a long period of time.
[40:45] Kim Monson: Now, is that just private jobs or does that also include government jobs?
[40:50] Jason McBride: The ADP report is non- farm payrolls, but it doesnot include government jobs.
[40:56] Jason McBride: The BLS report includes government jobs as well.
[41:00] Kim Monson: Okay, so there actually is more of a discrepancy then, because ADP, the 6, almost 6.
[41:08] Kim Monson: 6 million, that does notinclude government jobs, right?
[41:18] Jason McBride: And I'm sure there's a heck of a lot more that goes into these numbers that I'd really have to dig down into it.
[41:26] Jason McBride: But my initial concern when I saw this chart, though, was are they messing with the numbers to make Trump look bad?
[41:36] Jason McBride: Well, okay, I'm going to push back just a little bit, though.
[41:39] Kim Monson: Because during the Obama administration, where there was jobs growth was with both government jobs and then entities that depended on government funding for jobs.
[41:51] Kim Monson: And so if they're including that in the BLS report, then they're not including that in the ADP report, then there is maybe more of a discrepancy on private sector jobs.
[42:02] Kim Monson: Maybe that's where I'm headed at, on private sector jobs.
[42:08] Jason McBride: For example, you know, this latest report showed 130, 000 new jobs.
[42:14] Jason McBride: That wasthe initial from BLS, while ADP said 195.
[42:22] Jason McBride: So I think what you're saying is that the ADP report, if you wanted to get the true number, you'd want to take the ADP report and then carve out which jobs in the BLS report were government jobs and add those to the ADP.
[42:44] Jason McBride: But the other thing on this, Jason, is think about this.
[42:58] Jason McBride: And, you know, we talk a lot about it, and I'm starting to kind to see a skip in the step of a lot of folks and the fact that we have pundits and politicians that are trying to tap down this economy and try to try to get people thinking there might be a recession instead of doing you know their job is to stay out of the way so that people can go after their hopes and dreams well and in all this recession talk you know it's probably not going to affect a lot of decision making maybe for great big corporations because they've got all kinds of studies and data, but for, let's say, a mom- and- pop business, where they'remakinga decision maybe to hire one more employee, that could be a big decision.
[43:40] Jason McBride: You know, this kind of rhetoric could cause some hesitation there.
[43:44] Jason McBride: So, you know, could it become a self- fulfilling prophecy that they createa recession?
[43:51] Jason McBride: I think it'd take a little bit more than that, but as you said, I think you just use the word a little bit of a damper.
[43:58] Jason McBride: I think this negative rhetoric certainly could put a little bit of a damper on the growth if you get businesses that are a little bit afraid to hire.
[44:08] Jason McBride: They're a little bit afraid to buy a new piece of equipment that's expensive.
[44:17] Jason McBride: Whether or not we're in a recession when we're getting close to election time, you're going to hear the media say that we're in a recession.
[44:28] Jason McBride: The Democrats, I believe, will say we are, irregardless of what the numbers say, because if you just keep repeating a lie, it becomes a truth.
[44:49] Kim Monson: Maybe Patty will get on that right immediately.
[44:53] Kim Monson: When we come back, I think we kind of finished both of those things, right?
[44:57] Kim Monson: You found this really interesting soundbite from Stuart Varney and the Hush Puppy Shoes CEO, and it's just fascinating.
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[46:40] Kim Monson: Is right versus wrong instead of right versus left?
[46:44] Kim Monson: And Steve, Jason had given the quote, if you repeat a lie often enough, people start to believe it's the truth.
[46:56] Producer Steve: Joseph Goebbels, as that name rings a bell, he was the propaganda minister for Adolf Hitler.
[47:02] Producer Steve: If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
[47:08] Kim Monson: And just a reminder that Nazis stood for the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
[47:14] Kim Monson: And socialism ultimately comes down to force.
[47:17] Kim Monson: And if it's a really good idea, you don't have to force people.
[47:22] Kim Monson: So Jason McBride, Presidential Wealth Management, you found a really interesting soundbite, Stuart Varney on Fox News, on Fox Business, and it was regarding the tariffs.
[47:33] Kim Monson: So do you want to tee this up a little bit?
[47:36] Kim Monson: Well, yeah, Kim, it was pretty funny.
[47:38] Jason McBride: I watch Fox Business in the morning when I'm getting ready for work, and here comes Stuart on, and he's got this little twerp from Hush Puppies on there, and he's asking him basically the question of are you going to pass these tariffs on to your customers?
[47:55] Jason McBride: And you know, I've been saying for about six months now that that's not going to happen.
[48:00] Jason McBride: You know, the American businesses were too good of negotiators.
[48:04] Jason McBride: We're not going to take price hikes lying down.
[48:07] Jason McBride: China's going to absorb a lot of these tariffs and Americans aren't going to see these price hikes.
[48:14] Jason McBride: Well, I think Steve can play the clip, but the part I found funny was, you know, the guy basically admits exactly what I just said, but he's still trying to squirm out of it and say that Trump's a bad guy and all these horrible things are going to happen.
[48:33] Jason McBride: So I guess I shouldn't steal the thunder, but Steve's got the clip.
[48:37] Jason McBride: I thought it'd be fun for the listeners to hear this.
[48:40] Jason McBride: Okay, let's go ahead and start with the first clip.
[48:42] Stuart Varney: Hushpuppies, popular shoe brand, of course.
[48:45] Stuart Varney: Hushpuppies owned by Wolverine Worldwide, and that is a publicly traded company.
[48:52] Stuart Varney: It's one of 200 companies that sent a letter to President Trump asking him not to increase tariffs.
[48:55] Stuart Varney: Greg Tunney is with us.
[48:58] Stuart Varney: He is the global president of Hushpuppies.
[49:00] Stuart Varney: All right, Greg, the tariffs went into effect on Sunday.
[49:04] Stuart Varney: Are you going to pass those costs on to the consumer?
[49:08] Stuart Varney: Will we pay more for hush puppies in America?
[49:11] Greg Tunney: Well the biggest challenge Stuart, good morning, thank you for letting us be on the show today.
[49:17] Greg Tunney: The biggest challenge we have in the footwear industry is we're an industry that has been taxed for and tariffs on the industry for over the last century.
[49:26] Greg Tunney: We paid in the last 20 years$ 30 billion in tariffs that go back to the Smoot- Hawley days, back to HerbertHoover.
[49:33] Greg Tunney: And the fact of the matter is, is now the President Trump wants to add another 15% on top of that.
[49:37] Greg Tunney: That'swhy you had over 200 footwork companies in the United States petitioned to President Trump not to put these into effect, because we already have a regressive tax that actually taxes the poorest of the poor in the United States.
[49:50] Greg Tunney: Okay, great.
[49:50] Greg Tunney: I got it.
[49:51] Stuart Varney: But my question was, will you pass along these new tariffs in the form of higher prices to your customers in America?
[49:58] Stuart Varney: prices to your customers in America?
[50:00] Greg Tunney: Hush Puppy is an interesting business.
[50:02] Greg Tunney: 90%of our business is done outside of the United States.
[50:04] Greg Tunney: And in the United States, we've already mitigated our sourcing model where we've taken our sourcing and I have less than 30% ofmy total business in China.
[50:13] Greg Tunney: Okay, so let's stop that right there.
[50:16] Kim Monson: So he said 90% of hisbusiness isn't even in the US, right?
[50:19] Jason McBride: And the exposure that they had to China, he said that they've already taken steps to mitigate that.
[50:27] Jason McBride: So they're not just sitting there going, well, we're going to have to pass these tariffs on to the poor consumer.
[50:33] Jason McBride: They've taken steps to mitigate it as any smart business would do.
[50:39] Kim Monson: But it's a bit disingenuous to then send a letter to President Trump to say we don't want these tariffs on China.
[50:46] Kim Monson: Because I had Helen Rawley on yesterday who grew up in China.
[50:49] Kim Monson: And she said that presidents both sides of the aisle have kicked.
[50:53] Kim Monson: This can down the road regarding dealing with China.
[50:55] Kim Monson: And this is one of the last tools that is in the toolbox.
[50:58] Kim Monson: And, you know, we like free trade, but we also like fair trade, and China hasn't been fair.
[51:06] Jason McBride: President Trump has put it pretty succinctly, as he usually does, and said that America has rebuilt China from the ground up, and I pretty much agree with that, with their trade agreements that have been very disadvantageous to us, that our own politicians have allowed to go into place, I'm glad Trump's fighting it.
[51:29] Jason McBride: If it's a little bit of disruption in the markets, in the economy over the short term, I'm certainly willing to put up with that to end up with a better deal long term.
[51:44] Greg Tunney: So we do a significant amount of our production in India, Vietnam, Cambodia, other places around the world that will not be affected by this tax.
[51:54] Greg Tunney: So we've already taken the steps necessary to combat additional tariffs that China has put in place.
[52:01] Stuart Varney: So the answer is no.
[52:02] Stuart Varney: If I buy a pair of hushpuppies two months down the road, I'm not going to be paying any more than I am now.
[52:08] Stuart Varney: Your answer is no.
[52:10] Stuart Varney: You're not passing this along to your customers.
[52:12] Kim Monson: Well, and interesting you had called that.
[52:16] Kim Monson: You had said that a number of companies on these China tariffs, they would start to move their production.
[52:20] Kim Monson: to other countries which in essence would help those countries.
[52:25] Jason McBride: Trump will make sure that our trade agreements with those countries are fair as well if they start to get out of line.
[52:33] Jason McBride: But you know, though, a lot of other countries are more than happy to take that business and try to trade fairly, because they can still come out in a much better position than they are now, and it's good for the US as well.
[52:47] Kim Monson: Okay, and it's very disingenuous for this CEO, I think, to send this letter.
[52:52] Kim Monson: But I think there's one more soundbite, right?
[52:55] Jason McBride: Let's finish that when you talk about it some more.
[52:57] Greg Tunney: For Hush Puppies, that's the case.
[52:59] Greg Tunney: Unfortunately, most shoe companies, a significant amount, you've got to realize, out of the 2.
[53:05] Greg Tunney: 5 billion pairsof shoes that are worn in the United States, 1.
[53:07] Greg Tunney: 5 billion ofthem are made in China.
[53:10] Greg Tunney: So for many and most of the brands that are purchased in the United States, they will have to take on that additional burden.
[53:16] Stuart Varney: Now, the value of the Chinese currency hit a new low this morning.
[53:22] Stuart Varney: That would mitigate price increases in the United States.
[53:26] Stuart Varney: We're also told that manufacturers in China are urgently cutting costs so they can absorb some of the possible price increases in America.
[53:36] Stuart Varney: Seems like everybody's bending over backwards to make sure that American consumers do not pay a higher price.
[53:42] Stuart Varney: Okay, Jason, what do you think?
[53:46] Jason McBride: And that was another thing, you know, that I brought up a few months ago.
[53:51] Jason McBride: These buyers are going to go back to China, you remember.
[53:55] Jason McBride: And I said they're going to say, we can't pass these price increases on to our customer.
[54:00] Jason McBride: You're going to have to lower your wholesale price that you're selling to us for.
[54:06] Jason McBride: Now, you know, I didn't want to come on here just to, like, toot my own horn.
[54:12] Jason McBride: You know, but I will say I was one of the first people I know that started saying, well, wait a minute.
[54:17] Jason McBride: This isn't the way this is going to go down, and now it's playing out.
[54:22] Jason McBride: I think it's also funny that he mentions somehow that Wolverine Worldwide, the company that he runs, must be the only smart one out there.
[54:34] Jason McBride: Every other company is just going to lay down and take it.
[54:39] Jason McBride: You know, because he said there's two and a half billion pairs of shoes in the U.
[54:44] Jason McBride: And oneand a half billion are made in China, and all these other poor companies are not as good as we are.
[54:52] Jason McBride: How many of the shoes, I wonder, that come in from China, these cheap tennis shoes, are sold at Walmart?
[54:59] Jason McBride: Do you think Walmart is laying down and telling China, yeah, we'll just pass this on to our customers?
[55:09] Jason McBride: I wonder how many pairs of shoes Nike sells every year out of those$ 1.
[55:15] Jason McBride: Notthat I'm a big fan of them at this point, but I highly doubt that Nike is just laying down, if they have any production in China, and saying, yeah, just go ahead and stick us with those higher prices.
[55:31] Kim Monson: Well, and Jason, you brought up, and again, I heard you say this before almost anybody else did.
[55:36] Kim Monson: So thank you for being on top of that.
[55:38] Kim Monson: And you heard it first on this particular show.
[55:40] Kim Monson: But what we see here is, we see that these CEOs are trying to force the hand of President Trump.
[55:46] Kim Monson: And ultimately, President Trump is trying to stand up for the American consumer and Americans.
[55:51] Kim Monson: And so I want to kind of say shame on them.
[55:56] Kim Monson: Thanks for being here, Jason McBride, Presidential Wealth Management.
[56:00] Kim Monson: Thomas Sowell said, what is ominous is the ease with which some people go from saying that they don't like something to saying that the government should forbid it.
[56:07] Kim Monson: When you go down that road, don't expect freedom to survive very long.
[56:13] Kim Monson: So today, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[56:25] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.