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[01:09] Kim Monson: Happy friday, kim, and we've got another great show planned for you and a real treat in studio with me is my friend, professor kurt gerwitz, and you're normally in the seven to eight hour instead of the six to seven hour.
[01:24] Kim Monson: How do you like you're gonna get to see a beautiful sunrise?
[01:27] Kurt Gerwitz: I'm looking forward to a beautiful sunrise.
[01:33] Kim Monson: I said: I think that this is going to be a little challenging because kurt's not a morning person, but you're here because of property rights.
[01:44] Kim Monson: Yes, yes, because you've connected me with Rachel Dufour, who is.
[01:56] Kim Monson: Okay, French Bakery, which is on Lookout Mountain Road.
[02:00] Kim Monson: And apparently they're trying to use some zoning regulations to shut them down.
[02:05] Kurt Gerwitz: Yeah, I was on the internet and looking for a place to ride my bike.
[02:09] Kurt Gerwitz: And the internet was the subreddit for CoBike and they were very excited about this French bakery at the top of the mountain.
[02:21] Kurt Gerwitz: You ride to the top and you get a chocolate croissant as your treat.
[02:25] Kurt Gerwitz: And then the next post was, you know, that the zoning commission of Jeffco is going to make them shut down, is what the post said.
[02:37] Kurt Gerwitz: And so I just took them up as I talked to Rachel on the phone.
[02:41] Kurt Gerwitz: I called her up and said, look, I need to know what's going on.
[02:47] Kim Monson: And interestingly, it's so interesting how all these circles meet up because Patty McKernan, who is now she's running for Centennial City Council.
[03:00] Kim Monson: And you had done a presentation for her Dare to Dialogue on AI.
[03:09] Kim Monson: And she also reached out about this, just like within 24 hours, regarding the bakery.
[03:15] Kurt Gerwitz: So one of the things, you know, one of the hero stories or the victim stories here, the reason we're on the side of the bakery is, I mean, it just keeps going how great Rachel is.
[03:30] Kurt Gerwitz: She's from France, fell in love with America.
[03:36] Kurt Gerwitz: But the bakery itself has given 30%of its profits to a nonprofit.
[03:50] Kurt Gerwitz: They rotate the charities, and they've got them lined up all the way through January.
[03:55] Kurt Gerwitz: And so Patty knew about one of the charities that's going to lose a little bit of funding from this.
[04:10] Kim Monson: This assault upon property rights is, as you know, this is something that is just near and dear to my heart.
[04:19] Kim Monson: So, of course, you knew the minute that we'd be all over this.
[04:23] Kim Monson: And Rachel can join us in this hour, so bless you.
[04:27] Kim Monson: You're taking one for the team to be here.
[04:30] Kurt Gerwitz: I did some producer work for the first time ever for the cause.
[04:35] Kim Monson: So we're going to continue this discussion here.
[04:39] Kim Monson: We'll focus on Kurt and Rachel in segments three and four.
[04:42] Kim Monson: And if you are hearing this during the one to two hour, because we referenced the morning, and sometimes I think should I try to make this more evergreen- so we don't reference the morning and the sunrise.
[04:53] Kim Monson: But I think we just explained that the first hour is rebroadcast one to two in the afternoon.
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[05:18] Kim Monson: That is, we could be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.
[05:21] Kim Monson: And that is under assault because this whole industry that provides reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy is under assault.
[05:31] Kim Monson: Let's see, what are all the things I want to talk about here?
[05:34] Kim Monson: You and I don't get to go to lunch today at Hooters restaurants, unfortunately, but you love their fish tacos.
[05:42] Kurt Gerwitz: You know, I'm always the guy who orders a sampler platter everywhere I go.
[05:46] Kurt Gerwitz: And I had this one, I had a favorite restaurant in New Orleans and they were too good to be true.
[05:51] Kurt Gerwitz: They were doing something special with their pricing.
[05:57] Kurt Gerwitz: And I went and I literally ordered down the menu.
[06:00] Kurt Gerwitz: I was going three times a week and just ordering down the menu.
[06:09] Kim Monson: And I normally get either the fish and chips or the great nachos.
[06:16] Kim Monson: They have locations in Westminster, Loveland, and the one right over here on Parker Road, and great sponsors of the show.
[06:23] Kim Monson: This is probably the place where this whole property rights thing started with me.
[06:29] Kim Monson: I think, inherently I knew this, and property rights is inherent in the American idea that could own property and that that property is also opportunity, the opportunity to go after your hopes and dreams.
[06:45] Kim Monson: And when I was on city council, gooders restaurants wanted to open a restaurant in the community and the pbis politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties wanted to control things instead of having a free market.
[06:58] Kim Monson: And I think that that's probably where it all began.
[07:01] Kim Monson: Kurt, and you can take that we'll talk about some headlines here in the next segment.
[07:08] Kurt Gerwitz: And now we all benefit from your story, because now we get to hear you and you get to fight the fight and and keep america free.
[07:18] Kim Monson: Our word of the day is- and I'm not sure I have you.
[07:23] Kim Monson: Uh, if if I live long enough to read all the books that I have, I'll be 250 years old.
[07:29] Kim Monson: But I pulled I was going through, I was dusting some shelves.
[07:33] Kim Monson: And I found GK Chesterton, The Everlasting Man.
[07:40] Kim Monson: And I get some quotes from GK Chesterton, who he was an Anglican, eventually became, I think, a Catholic, but great quotes.
[07:48] Kim Monson: And anyway, he'd written this book, The Everlasting Man.
[07:50] Kim Monson: And I've just read one paragraph, I'm like, what on earth is he talking about?
[08:00] Kurt Gerwitz: I'm going to pull it up here and be able to say something smart about it, but I don't know.
[08:04] Kim Monson: Well, while I'm doing that, we're going to do several other things.
[08:07] Kim Monson: And the first thing is to get to our Word of the Day.
[08:09] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking I pull this from The Everlasting Man, but the Word of the Day is not right at my fingertips here.
[08:18] Kurt Gerwitz: So that book is divided into two big sections.
[08:25] Kurt Gerwitz: It's part history, part theology, part philosophy, and part, well, Chesterton doing what Chesterton does best, turning common assumptions upside down with humor and paradox.
[08:38] Kim Monson: It could be a plausible but fallacious argumentation or the art or process of reasoning or logic.
[08:46] Kim Monson: Sophistry, I think that we're going to have this legislative session, a special session beginning next week on the 21st.
[08:55] Kim Monson: And I think there'll be a lot of sophistry, which would be plausible, but fallacious argumentation coming out of some of these politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties' mouths.
[09:07] Kim Monson: Next thing is our quote of the day.
[09:11] Kim Monson: And actually I think I'm going to save that for the next segment because, as you know, there's two non- profitsthat I just totally highlight support, and one of them is the USMC Memorial Foundation, and on the line with us is the president of the Memorial Foundation, Paula Sarlls.
[09:31] Kim Monson: She is a marine veteran, she is a gold star wife and she has a love for our country and our military and veterans, and she works tire tirelessly with her team to continue to to make sure that we we don't forget we must remember.
[09:49] Kim Monson: So Paula Sarlls, welcome to the show.
[09:54] Kim Monson: Kim, good to be here, good to have you.
[09:57] Kim Monson: And I cannot believe it when you first mentioned to me that there would be the 48th anniversary celebration of the marine memorial, which is out at six and colfax on august 23rd, that sounded like a long time from from then, but it's next week.
[10:16] Paula Sarlls: I know next week, and uh, it just came up really fast, but we're all ready for it and we're excited to meet dave and have him come sing for us again.
[10:32] Paula Sarlls: So tickets, people can buy them where, Paula Sarlls?
[10:36] Paula Sarlls: Well, they can go to usmcmemorialfoundation.
[10:44] Paula Sarlls: You just click on it, and it'll take you right there.
[10:48] Paula Sarlls: And you can either buy a brick and sit on the VIP rows right up close and personal.
[10:55] Paula Sarlls: personal or you can just donate$ 50 and bring your own chair and enjoy the evening.
[11:06] Paula Sarlls: And we'll have a food truck out there with hamburgers and hot dogs, all American food, and it'll be a lot of fun.
[11:14] Kim Monson: And so let's talk just a little bit about the Buy the Brick program and what that is exactly.
[11:20] Paula Sarlls: So, and there's a couple of at least two different pricings on on different sizes of bricks, right, right, and there's five walkways depending on how you want to, where you want your brick and two sizes, and the price is dependent on that- but anywhere from 125 to 400.
[11:43] Paula Sarlls: And um, if they need help with the wording or what you want to put on it, just let me know and I'll help you with that.
[11:53] Paula Sarlls: So it's donating a brick and then, once you have that, once you've paid for it, then we get a certificate made and sent to you as a keepsake until the bricks are laid, when we actually do the remodel and we have quite a bit of money to raise until we get there.
[12:12] Paula Sarlls: But you have the certificate until then, and we'll notify everybody when that happens.
[12:19] Kim Monson: And Paula, I've purchased two bricks, one for my father's cousin who was killed at Pearl Harbor, and his remains were identified a few years ago.
[12:30] Kim Monson: And he was brought home to Mound City, Missouri, to a final resting place, which was pretty amazing.
[12:38] Kim Monson: And then I also purchased a brick for my father that passed on a few years ago, and he was United States Air Force.
[12:46] Kim Monson: And I think my dad was always difficult to buy something for because he was pretty content with everything that he had and but that was- I think that was one of the most precious gifts that he had- was getting that certificate, and I'm so glad that I did that before he passed on and I'm, I'm very excited about that, the certificate that he received and then also that when the memorial and remodel is done, that that he will be memorialized there as well.
[13:19] Kim Monson: So I would say to people, don't procrastinate on buying a brick for your loved one because uh, seeing them when they get the certificate and just knowing that they'll be honored, it's a really big deal.
[13:32] Paula Sarlls: Paula, yeah, it is, and we've gotten them for, uh, different veterans that have passed, but it's really nice when they're still living and they can see the certificate and the brick and they know it's going to be laid, I think, in their honor and they just cherish those certificates so much they do.
[13:53] Kim Monson: So how can people get more information about the event and just all that you're doing?
[13:59] Paula Sarlls: Well, they can go to usmc memorial foundation.
[14:09] Paula Sarlls: If you want to email and talk, just let me know and we'll.
[14:11] Paula Sarlls: Uh, if you have any questions or need help, we'll help you with that and again, that's mcmemorial.
[14:23] Kim Monson: You've asked me to emcee the event next week, so I'm really excited about that as well.
[14:27] Paula Sarlls: Yeah, we're excited to have you there, as always.
[14:30] Kim Monson: Paula Sarlls, thank you for all that you do for our country and for our community, and I'll see you next week.
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[18:08] Kim Monson: And in studio with me is my friend, Professor Kurt Gerwitz, and really excited about what we're going to focus on in segments three and four regarding property rights and a French bakery.
[18:19] Kurt Gerwitz: Yeah, hopefully we can avoid some sophistry.
[18:29] Kim Monson: On Fridays, I like to share a quote from the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values.
[18:37] Kim Monson: The center is located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk.
[18:39] Kim Monson: And I haven't been down there for a little while.
[18:51] Kim Monson: Because it really is a special place.
[18:53] Kim Monson: And I'd love to get your perspective on it as well.
[18:55] Kim Monson: But they focus on these Medal of Honor quotes, and they have the portraits of valor of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients.
[19:05] Kim Monson: And what I really love, and I can only really focus on a few each time, because these portraits are beautiful that have been done, and they have their quotes there.
[19:18] Kim Monson: And I just look at their eyes and I think, huh, what they did.
[19:24] Kim Monson: A lot of people say they don't, the Medal of Honor guys, they don't, a lot of them may not talk about that day.
[19:29] Kim Monson: The reason is, is because they received the Medal of Honor for actions they took on one of the toughest days of their lives.
[19:36] Kim Monson: And they've stepped forward to save other people's lives.
[19:40] Kim Monson: And so it's pretty remarkable stories.
[19:42] Kurt Gerwitz: They call them the silent generation, some of that, right?
[19:45] Kurt Gerwitz: That, like you, mentioned your, was it your father, your family member, who was in world war ii?
[19:52] Kim Monson: Three uncles, yes, and they never talked about it.
[19:56] Kim Monson: Here we all were all these little kids.
[19:58] Kim Monson: They would have a family reunion, uh, sometimes on sundays in in the park and we would all be hanging out and although adults would be sitting around talking, I had no idea about those, those three, the the stories that they had, yeah, and some of the horrors they've seen.
[20:19] Kurt Gerwitz: I know they at least got him a brick at the St.
[20:23] Kurt Gerwitz: Louis Cardinals baseball stadium, but no, I think they got him a brick at the World War II Museum in New Orleans, Louisiana, which is, you know, that city is dear to my heart, and that museum is amazing.
[20:37] Kim Monson: Yeah, bucket list of things to do so.
[20:40] Kim Monson: Getting into this, this is from george c lang, united states army medal of honor recipient was born in 1947.
[20:48] Kim Monson: Actions that were taken on february 22nd, 1969.
[20:58] Kim Monson: And in the book, it goes through World War II, then Korea, Vietnam, and then I'm just going to start over once we get through all those, because it's important that we keep these stories alive.
[21:14] Kim Monson: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity, in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, Specialist Fourth Class Lang, Company A, was serving as a squad leader when his unit on a reconnaissance-enforced mission encountered intense fire from a well-fortified enemy bunker complex.
[21:33] Kim Monson: Specialist Fourth Class Lang observed an emplacement from which heavy fire was coming.
[21:39] Kim Monson: Unhesitatingly, he assaulted the position and destroyed it with hand grenades and rifle fire.
[21:45] Kim Monson: Observing another place, Kurt, I just want to think right there.
[21:49] Kim Monson: to throw a grenade and get it right where it's supposed to go.
[21:56] Kim Monson: But anyway, observing another emplacement approximately 15 meters to his front, Specialist Fourth Class Lang jumped across the canal, moved through heavy enemy fire to within a few feet of the position, and eliminated it, again using hand grenades and a rifle fire.
[22:11] Kim Monson: Nearby, he discovered a large cache of enemy ammunition.
[22:15] Kim Monson: As he maneuvered his squad forward to secure the cache, they came under fire from yet another third bunker.
[22:23] Kim Monson: Specialist 4th Class Lang immediately reacted and assaulted this position and destroyed it with the remainder of his grenades.
[22:29] Kim Monson: After returning to the area of arms, Akeche's squad again came under heavy enemy rocket and automatic weapons fire from three sides and suffered six casualties.
[22:40] Kim Monson: Specialist 4th Class Lang was one of those seriously wounded.
[22:43] Kim Monson: Although immobilized and in great pain, he continued to direct his men until his evacuation was ordered over his protests.
[22:54] Kim Monson: The sustained, extraordinary courage and selflessness exhibited by this soldier over an extended period of time were an inspiration to his comrades and are in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.
[23:11] Kurt Gerwitz: I don't want this to sound trite, but the you know, the americans grenades were, um, they're just the ball that we throw because we play baseball.
[23:19] Kurt Gerwitz: If you watch the movies, the germans had theirs on a stick because they just never played baseball.
[23:23] Kurt Gerwitz: So they're over there playing soccer and so they threw a stick and we threw a ball.
[23:28] Kim Monson: Well, I was, I was thinking about that as I was reading this about baseball.
[23:35] Kim Monson: The it's a but to be able to throw a grenade under that kind of pressure and hit where you.
[23:41] Kim Monson: It is pretty amazing, but I didn't know that about baseball, you're pretty scary though.
[23:45] Kurt Gerwitz: The whole thing well yeah, violent and lots of death and murder more as horror, was listening to some quotes from eisenhower.
[23:55] Kurt Gerwitz: Oh he, he said he hated it so much that he his hatred may have blinded him.
[23:59] Kim Monson: Oh I never really I had not read that.
[24:08] Kim Monson: But so, as you know, America's Veterans Stories was precipitated by a trip that I took in 2016 with a group that took 40 day veterans back to Normandy, France and all those four guys, and we got very, very close.
[24:24] Kim Monson: There was 26 of us on in the group and I I didn't quite understand what what I was actually witnessing as we were going through that and standing on Omaha Beach.
[24:39] Kim Monson: And now I'm losing my train of thought, what I was going to tell you about on that.
[24:44] Kim Monson: Well, this, well, oh, I know what it was, is there's the picture of Eisenhower with the paratroopers with their faces blacked out that they're going, you know, he was, they were going to go in and jump behind enemy lines.
[24:59] Kim Monson: Paratrooper means you jump in behind enemy lines and then you're in infantry, and one of the guys we were with, guy Whidden, was just off to the side from that photo and I just can't think about.
[25:11] Kim Monson: I can't imagine what was going through Eisenhower's mind, because they had even said to many of the guys that were going to storm the beach that they're not going to make it, and they did it anyway, which is amazing to me.
[25:25] Kim Monson: And um yeah, so that gives me the chills.
[25:32] Kim Monson: Eisenhower knew what would end the responsibility of all these young men's lives is amazing.
[25:39] Kim Monson: Lange, United States Army Medal of Honor recipient.
[25:41] Kim Monson: He said, May God bless each of us always, and may each of us always strive to be worthy of his blessings.
[25:51] Kim Monson: So okay, a couple of headlines because I've really been thinking about property rights, liberty and, as you all know, I am very concerned about excel energy taking people's land through rural el paso county and rural el paso albert county and I went out to the hearing where there were well over probably 200 farmers and ranchers taking time out of their day to test to make public comments about we don't want you to take our land.
[26:26] Kim Monson: But excel is doubling down and this is from complete colorado.
[26:33] Kim Monson: Excel sues albert county over massive power line permit denial and now I what I think is in play because I've we've got a really informed listener.
[26:48] Kim Monson: Jenny said that I'm wondering what the hurry is with Xcel Energy.
[26:53] Kim Monson: And apparently there is another corridor that is already approved that they could use instead of taking people's land going across Elbert County and El Paso County.
[27:05] Kim Monson: And bear in mind, the people in Elbert County and El Paso County don't benefit from this transmission line whatsoever.
[27:10] Kim Monson: But I I think they're trying to get power that is being, the intermittent unreliable power that is being generated by solar panels and wind.
[27:22] Kim Monson: And I'm not opposed to those, but the only way they're working right now is because of significant tax credits.
[27:29] Kim Monson: And, Kurt, as you well know, I don't like government putting its finger on the lever and trying to push one thing over another.
[27:37] Kim Monson: And so those tax credits are possibly going to disappear soon.
[27:43] Kim Monson: And so if we can delay this transmission line long enough, then it would not be as financially viable without the tax credits to take these people's land.
[27:57] Kurt Gerwitz: I've never even heard of of Elbert County until recently.
[28:05] Kurt Gerwitz: I apologize, but I, I'm now love Elbert County because I'm going down for a 10-day silent retreat with the Buddhists.
[28:15] Kurt Gerwitz: When I was living in New Orleans, I wanted to do this.
[28:20] Kurt Gerwitz: Org and there's 20 centers in the United States.
[28:26] Kurt Gerwitz: I had to wake up at five in the morning to see another sunrise to apply to get accepted to this.
[28:35] Kurt Gerwitz: When I was in New Orleans, though, the closest one was in Atlanta, Georgia, or in Texas.
[28:42] Kurt Gerwitz: But here we are in God's country in Colorado, and there's one just 150 miles southeast of– or so 50 miles southeast of here.
[28:51] Kurt Gerwitz: And yes, so I'm gonna go, uh, you know, be trained by the buddhists to sit in silence.
[29:00] Kurt Gerwitz: Yeah, no one, no one in my circles believes I can do it.
[29:05] Kurt Gerwitz: But um yeah, I guess while I'm there I'll pray for the uh, for the correct outcome of the, and the correct outcome is protecting private property rights to not steal people's land.
[29:14] Kim Monson: That's exactly right, and so okay, uh, let's let me make sure I'm getting everything done that I need to get done here.
[29:21] Kim Monson: Okay, let's get to let's go to break because speaking property rights, we've got to protect a French bakery.
[29:29] Kim Monson: And I don't know the whole story on it.
[29:33] Kim Monson: Kurt Gerwitz, thank you for bringing this forward.
[29:34] Kim Monson: And these are just important discussions.
[29:38] Kim Monson: And we will talk with Alicia Garcia, and Teddy Collins with the second syndicate.
[29:42] Kim Monson: And also, Teddy is co owner of Spartan Defense in Colorado Springs.
[29:49] Kim Monson: and so I really appreciate their sponsorship.
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[32:51] Kim Monson: In studio with me is Kurt Gerwitz, Professor Kurt Gerwitz, and you have brought a story to me, Kurt Gerwitz, which is very important, and we have on the line the owner of the French bakery, Rachel Dufour.
[33:06] Kim Monson: Thank you, bonjour everybody thank you Kim and Kurt for having me.
[33:12] Kim Monson: I'm gonna let Kurt kind of set this up and then we'll go over to you, Rachel, to find out exactly what's happening.
[33:21] Kurt Gerwitz: I think Rachel will tell it better than I do, but let me try to summarize and she can fill in my gaps here.
[33:27] Kurt Gerwitz: She's from France, comes here, falls in love with America, and that just pulls at my heart.
[33:35] Kurt Gerwitz: We want the rest of the world to look at us as the best.
[33:41] Kurt Gerwitz: We want to be a city on a hill, and we want to be a place where immigrants want to come to this country because it's the best country on earth.
[33:52] Kurt Gerwitz: You know what colorado needs is a french bakery.
[33:54] Kurt Gerwitz: Her sister ruth has, who had a phd in economics, working with the german government, complete huge pivot in their lives like this is america's the country where you can change your career.
[34:05] Kurt Gerwitz: And she goes and like studies extensively french baking and french cooking.
[34:11] Kurt Gerwitz: And and they get this property at the top of Lookout Mountain.
[34:17] Kurt Gerwitz: What brought me in was, I mean, I heard about the story.
[34:20] Kurt Gerwitz: And then I was there and I had the best chocolate croissant I've had, you know, in my life, if I may.
[34:25] Kim Monson: Well, and that's saying something because you were in New Orleans, and there's amazing bakeries there.
[34:31] Kim Monson: So this is something to say that it's right here in Colorado.
[34:34] Kurt Gerwitz: Well, that's the thing is, I don't want to lose this French bakery to New Orleans.
[34:38] Kurt Gerwitz: They have enough French speakers and French food and it's delicious and we need some here.
[34:43] Kurt Gerwitz: And so, and then, you know, just one day in September, a lady shows up on the property and says, you're not to code.
[34:51] Kurt Gerwitz: We don't like what you're, you know, you know, these stories have, sometimes they have like that, that precursor of what's to come.
[34:58] Kurt Gerwitz: And, and Rachel will tell you, they had this trouble with the carports, these metal tents that you put cars under.
[35:04] Kurt Gerwitz: And they're like: oh, the government said you can't have that 200 feet and she's like: well, it's, it's exactly 200 feet, can we?
[35:12] Kurt Gerwitz: I thought: can we shave it down to 199 to make it compliant?
[35:16] Kurt Gerwitz: And you know Rachel had done everything you know by the book.
[35:26] Kurt Gerwitz: It's just so sad that you have to lay prostrate before government in order to get anything done here.
[35:37] Kurt Gerwitz: And then, surprise, surprise, now she's got an issue with, there's two trailers and a container on the property.
[35:46] Kurt Gerwitz: She's doing good work with taking the leftover coffee grounds and you can turn them into another product and you can burn them later.
[35:55] Kurt Gerwitz: And so she's got a container that does that.
[35:58] Kurt Gerwitz: It's the nicest looking property in the mountains.
[36:01] Kurt Gerwitz: And yet it is the government's position that, uh, it's not good enough.
[36:07] Kurt Gerwitz: You know she's gonna have a uphill battle because someone's sleeping on the property because a baker is baking at 3 a.
[36:13] Kurt Gerwitz: M, and so they have, and it's a family affair and they just have somebody catching a couple z's before baking in at in the wee hours of the of the morning, and maybe I'll just let her filling my gaps here.
[36:26] Kim Monson: So Rachel, the story just came to me this week from both Kurt Gerwitz and my friend Patty McKernan.
[36:35] Kim Monson: And I thought, this is really interesting that these two things are coming together.
[36:39] Kim Monson: So Kurt's given us some information.
[36:41] Kim Monson: So tell us about how you chose this property.
[36:48] Rachel Dufour: So we have a non-profit providing counseling for pastors, missionaries around the world.
[36:56] Rachel Dufour: And we thought, how can we support nonprofits like with the for-profit and the bakery, bringing French bakery to Colorado.
[37:07] Rachel Dufour: It was the greatest idea I think we had inspired.
[37:12] Rachel Dufour: We came and we were about to open a bakery in March 2020 when everything closed down.
[37:23] Rachel Dufour: When we arrived on this property on lookout mountain road, we fell in love with the place and we don't own it.
[37:31] Rachel Dufour: But before we enter the building, I asked the realtor: um, you know, we will need a trailer in french bakers live above the bakery because we need to work at night and to have everything fresh every day at 7 a.
[37:45] Rachel Dufour: m so i explained the whole concept with the two trailers, get the sizes, they will be on wheels, they are a vehicle, we have a V number, we need to be on site night and day to launch the bakery and build a team and all of this.
[38:03] Rachel Dufour: This will work, this will happen for two years, will the landlord be okay?
[38:07] Rachel Dufour: And the realtor said, oh, I work, I'm part of one of the zoning commission that decides this kind of thing, yes, it will be okay.
[38:17] Rachel Dufour: He agreed: we bring the trailers on the land, we have a lease with him.
[38:23] Rachel Dufour: We asked our rifter to call zoning and and explain the whole thing.
[38:29] Rachel Dufour: And over the phone, and that was I didn't know, but over the phone they said: yes, you will be okay, you have it will be okay.
[38:36] Rachel Dufour: So everybody said, or already, you will be okay, it's you know loi we day four days last year.
[38:47] Rachel Dufour: We bought the trailers on on the property and then got everything ready to launch the bakery.
[38:51] Rachel Dufour: And in September, like you said, this lady from Zoning came and screamed at us, and she was very mad and very upset because she went to the wrong address and other neighbors.
[39:01] Rachel Dufour: She was ready to do the violation citation when she realized it was not the right place, so she was all worked up about that.
[39:10] Kim Monson: Let me just stop there for just a second, Rachel.
[39:13] Kim Monson: You say that there's something somebody that has come from planning and zoning to want to tell you that they have a violation and they don't even go to the right property.
[39:23] Kim Monson: I I I find that a little, um yeah, yeah, I'll just leave it out there.
[39:28] Rachel Dufour: And then she, and then she said: do you want to put an anonymous complaint against this neighbor so I can do my violation citation with them?
[39:44] Rachel Dufour: Maybe it's not even someone from our neighborhood, but someone did an anonymous complaint.
[39:49] Rachel Dufour: And from September, a few weeks after my dad, our dad, my sister and my dad passed away, so we were all like, you know how difficult it is.
[40:09] Rachel Dufour: Since September, we followed all the steps until they said, oh, we are not even going to finish your permit because we will deny it.
[40:17] Rachel Dufour: Now you have to remove the trailers on Monday, this coming Monday.
[40:22] Rachel Dufour: And someone from zoning does not understand the whole concept because this guy says, I'm going to read what he says.
[40:30] Rachel Dufour: If they need to be close by to watch things bake around the stores, we don't watch things bake.
[40:38] Rachel Dufour: Yeah, he said they can just commute like everybody else, but we cannot.
[40:51] Rachel Dufour: We're still hoping something good will come out of that so they can give us a couple of years to launch the bakery, build a team, and after we will move the trailer.
[41:02] Kim Monson: It is so interesting, Rachel Dufour.
[41:04] Kim Monson: my first job was at Daylight Donut and Chicken Inn.
[41:09] Kim Monson: And so I know that that's not a comparison to a French bakery.
[41:18] Kim Monson: But I remember, I should have actually paid him for my first job instead of him paying me, but because learning to show up for work and work with people.
[41:29] Kim Monson: Schmidt, he would, and so I was from a small town, so he could live very close to where the bakery was.
[41:38] Kim Monson: 30, 4 in the morning, so that at 6 o'clockwhen they opened, there was fresh donuts for people to eat.
[41:45] Kim Monson: So a chocolate croissant doesn't just show up at 7 a.
[41:51] Kurt Gerwitz: Yeah, I mean, some of the best food in the world is street food.
[41:56] Kurt Gerwitz: And, you know, I'm thinking of these beautiful villas in Europe where the, or even in Southeast Asia, of course, like we're, of course, people have to sleep there because this is, it just, it's blowing my mind that we would, that we would throw a wrench into this system.
[42:13] Kurt Gerwitz: And, you know, and Rachel had made the point to me, and I'll just help her make her point here.
[42:18] Kurt Gerwitz: Isn't it weird that the zoning police have an opinion on how to run a bakery?
[42:25] Kim Monson: I find it interesting, and I actually have a whole bunch of other questions for you.
[42:32] Kim Monson: We're talking with Rachel Dufour, and she's the reason that Kurt Gerwitz is in in hour number one because she's got a bakery that's going to open at 7 o'clock.
[42:41] Kim Monson: Well, I thought if she could wake up at 3 a.
[42:48] Kim Monson: Okay, so we're going to continue the discussion.
[42:53] Kim Monson: And when I say at the beginning of the show that it's not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's rights, their property, their freedom, their livelihood, their opportunity.
[43:04] Kim Monson: That's what we have right here is they're trying to take away opportunity.
[43:09] Kim Monson: And that's not the proper role of government.
[43:13] Kim Monson: And um, and and this other thing, I gotta, I have so many things, this the idea that the uh zoning police person would say: hey, how about you put in an anonymous again the word anonymous if you don't have the guts to put your name on something, I don't think it really matters but to put in an anonymous complaint against your neighbor.
[43:37] Kim Monson: That they suggested that because then And that way that can trigger them to go in and try to take control of that property as well.
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[47:01] Kim Monson: I would say, et voila, French bakery.
[47:08] Kim Monson: Okay, and the owner of Et Voila French Bakery at the top of Lookout Mountain or on Lookout Mountain Road.
[47:12] Kim Monson: First of all, it sounds to me like one of the sticky points that the zoning police are having with you is that you have a trailer on the property so that the baker can get up and get ready and get things going.
[47:29] Kim Monson: andit takes a little while to bake fresh bakery items, croissants.
[47:36] Kim Monson: What I find ironic, Kurt Gerwitz, is what is happening in our state and our country.
[47:43] Kim Monson: I know in Lakewood, which is part of Jefferson County, you talk about trash, people sleeping on the streets, and a lot of this is because of public policy.
[47:54] Kim Monson: You talk about that, want to be careful about pollution, and then you drive through our cities and there's trash and junk everywhere.
[48:01] Kim Monson: There's people that are sleeping, um you know, on the streets, but yet you've got jefferson county that wants to go after an entrepreneur with a french bakery because of, because of, because they can, I guess.
[48:20] Kim Monson: What this is is as, as kurt and and I were talking during the break, we talk about property rights, and inherently, that's what this whole thing is about- is your right to have the opportunity to go after your hopes and dreams, is what I see this as Rachel.
[48:36] Rachel Dufour: Yes, when we had a verbal yes from our landlord, putting the LOI on the telephone with zoning, we built the trailers to match the bakery building.
[48:50] Rachel Dufour: so we really thought we had the right to do it because everybody said, yes, it will not be a problem.
[48:58] Rachel Dufour: You have a VIN number, there are trailers, make sure you are well connected, you know, everything is deep buried, septic, water, everything is very clean.
[49:06] Rachel Dufour: We even built the trailers to match the building because we thought we had the right to do it.
[49:11] Rachel Dufour: And that's why I was baffled that, I mean, like you, the anonymous complaint, I would have said, forgive my second language, English, but I would have said, They don't have the balls to come and ask us, you know, tell us we don't like what you're doing.
[49:25] Rachel Dufour: And, yes, we didn't do it trying to do something that was not in compliance.
[49:32] Rachel Dufour: We thought we were okay until this lady came and screamed and we started talking with her.
[49:37] Rachel Dufour: And even since September until June this year, we thought we would find a solution and they would give us a temporary permit.
[49:40] Rachel Dufour: Sorry, I can't remember what it is, but for neighbors to be able to say, we don't want this to happen, and we waited, and no one complained.
[50:00] Rachel Dufour: And then after that, we followed every step they asked for us.
[50:03] Rachel Dufour: So we are really hoping this weekend that our legal counsel can get to them so they can give us, you know, a breeze and oxygen, life-saving permission to stay for a few years.
[50:16] Rachel Dufour: Because otherwise, on Monday, and they are already saying it in emails, they will come and I don't know what happens.
[50:24] Rachel Dufour: Because I don't understand what's going on with this.
[50:29] Rachel Dufour: But they're already saying Monday is your deadline, so you better have your trailers out by Monday.
[50:36] Rachel Dufour: Our third grandson is going to be born in half an hour.
[50:41] Rachel Dufour: And so it means that we don't have my son at the bakery to help us with the weekend, which is beautifully, very full with people on weekends.
[50:50] Rachel Dufour: So we don't have the money to move the trailers.
[51:02] Kim Monson: So this is going to happen on monday, do you?
[51:05] Kim Monson: Uh, I'm trying to think here what to well my con.
[51:10] Kurt Gerwitz: My concern is that they'll probably just start finding you right.
[51:13] Kurt Gerwitz: They'll they'll start building up a you know a uh, they'll start creating a debt that you never signed up for, right?
[51:30] Rachel Dufour: We have the legal counsel talking with Zoni today, hopefully.
[51:37] Rachel Dufour: I really hope the director, who is a very nice man, can do something.
[51:41] Rachel Dufour: I cannot believe that the director don't have the power to do something like that.
[51:53] Rachel Dufour: I really hope someone will say, hey, we'll give them a break, work with them so they have the permit and every document they require, but we need to keep the trailers on.
[52:08] Kim Monson: Well, the system, and I would really recommend that you listen to the show when we had Commissioner Sean Pond on from Montrose County earlier in the week.
[52:18] Kim Monson: What he has uncovered is that we have these unelected bureaucrats with these boards and commissions that have a tremendous amount of power.
[52:28] Kim Monson: But right now, this is very time sensitive for you.
[52:31] Kim Monson: So one of the first things is these planning commissioners are in the planning commission.
[52:37] Kim Monson: They work under the auspices of the electeds, which would be your Jefferson County commissioners.
[52:42] Kim Monson: Commissioners and the commissioners in Jefferson County.
[52:44] Kim Monson: These are the people that I would recommend that people reach out to right now and let me get you the names for them here.
[52:54] Kurt Gerwitz: While you pull that up, I'll say you know I am looking at this Denver Post article and so that's it's good it.
[53:11] Kim Monson: Okay, and where can people find that?
[53:13] Kim Monson: Because I probably won't have the summary up quite.
[53:16] Kurt Gerwitz: You can always search my name, Kurt Gerwitz.
[53:23] Kurt Gerwitz: I can't get it up there, but I can get it on the YouTube channel for Kay Gerwitz.
[53:32] Kurt Gerwitz: Those are two links that you can, one is that One asks for signatures.
[53:36] Kurt Gerwitz: The other one asks for dollars, which is super extra helpful.
[53:39] Kim Monson: Rachel, are those links on your website by any chance?
[54:00] Kim Monson: The commissioners, there's three commissioners in Jefferson County.
[54:03] Kim Monson: Rachel Zinsinger, Andy Kerr, and Leslie Dahl Kemper, they're all former legislators as well.
[54:12] Kim Monson: I'd recommend people reach out to them right now.
[54:15] Kim Monson: And then I've got a couple of other ideas on this, because we need to stand for the property rights, the opportunity for Rachel Dufour and her family to work hard and pursue their American dream.
[54:29] Kim Monson: And when you were saying that she loves America, I was thinking of de Tocqueville.
[54:32] Kim Monson: And, of course, de Tocqueville, this quote is attributed to him.
[54:35] Kim Monson: He said, America is great because America is good.
[54:39] Kim Monson: And it is not good to take away other people's rights and their opportunity.
[54:49] Rachel Dufour: I just want to thank you for bringing awareness.
[54:53] Rachel Dufour: And we don't feel alone with you guys understanding what we are doing.
[55:00] Rachel Dufour: com and our social media, evoilafrenchbakery, E-T-V-O-I-L-A, French Bakery.
[55:07] Rachel Dufour: And I want to thank everybody for their support, our community and the neighbors, cyclists, everybody has been awesome.
[55:15] Rachel Dufour: And I really pray and hope we find a solution to appease, zoning, comply, and bring this dream to continue to be alive.
[55:28] Kim Monson: Okay, Kurt Gerwitz, your final thought on this?
[55:36] Kurt Gerwitz: org and then type in French bakery, it's at the top.
[55:40] Kim Monson: And with that, our quote for the end of the show, I found this from Robert Louis Stevenson.
[55:49] Kim Monson: And I normally try to go to Courage Quotes on Fridays because we have the Medal of Honor quote that we have at the beginning of the show.
[55:57] Kim Monson: And he said this, and I think this is so appropriate.
[56:03] Kim Monson: He said, everyday courage has few witnesses, but yours is no less noble because no drum beats for you and no crowd shout your name.
[56:10] Kim Monson: And so, my friends, I would say let's show up here.
[56:14] Kim Monson: Let's help save this French bakery.
[56:18] Kim Monson: org, just put in French bakery and you can sign the petition, right?
[56:26] Kim Monson: Communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and, like superman, stand for truth, justice and the american way.
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[58:22] Kim Monson: And it's not fair, just because you're a big business, that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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[59:12] Kim Monson: This first hour, you can hear that if you didn't catch that, 1 to 2 in the afternoon.
[59:17] Kim Monson: And this is Jefferson County Planning and Zoning is trying to shut down basically Evoila Bakery because they need, they need to have their bakers on property so they can start baking early in the morning so that they can pursue their hopes and dreams.
[59:35] Kim Monson: And I find it just so ironic- and she said the word that is the opposite of a free society and that is a it's a compliant society.
[59:47] Kim Monson: And boy, to live your whole life in compliance, looking over your shoulder, wondering whether or not you're doing something right, and bear in mind planning and zoning.
[59:57] Kim Monson: They have, uh, they ask for um, oh uh, what is it?
[60:02] Kim Monson: You know passes on it all the time and of course we have out in lakewood.
[60:09] Kim Monson: Rewrite when we talked with Karen Gorday, who is running for city council out there.
[60:14] Kim Monson: But so you have work to do today, my friends, and that is first of all.
[60:19] Kim Monson: I need to go to Jefferson County and the commissioner site and you need to reach out to each of these three commissioners- it won't take very long at all- and let them know that they need to step in here and and make sure that they save at Walla French Bakery.
[60:47] Kim Monson: And so get there, and it may be– oh, yep.
[60:52] Kim Monson: This is the other thing that I find so interesting is they should have those phone numbers right there.
[60:59] Kim Monson: Youdid this, Kurt Gerwitz, and I'm going to do that during the break.
[61:10] Kim Monson: So all of us are sitting in front of our computers.
[61:14] Kim Monson: All of us can do this right now or on your phones.
[61:21] Kurt Gerwitz: I don't think everybody's in front of their computer.
[61:23] Kurt Gerwitz: I think half your audience is in their car right now, right?
[61:26] Kim Monson: So as soon as you get stopped, let's have you do that.
[61:34] Kurt Gerwitz: org andsign the petition for French bakery at the top of Lookout Mountain called Et Voila.
[61:41] Kim Monson: And the pressure needs to go to the electeds because the bureaucrats aren't going to really listen.
[61:48] Kim Monson: That's the commissioners right now.
[61:49] Kim Monson: And let them know that you've got some pressure.
[61:54] Kim Monson: Ofcourse, I'd love to hear from all of you about that.
[61:59] Kim Monson: And as you know, we look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[62:05] Kim Monson: It's not compassionate or altruistic to take other people's rights, property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force.
[62:13] Kim Monson: And we see this happening under the guise of zoning.
[62:20] Kim Monson: These electeds have, you drive through Lakewood right now.
[62:24] Kim Monson: And I was at the cut board meeting on Monday night.
[62:30] Kim Monson: So I drove down Colfax as I was coming home.
[62:33] Kim Monson: Businesses that are put out of business, there's trash, there's homeless.
[62:38] Kim Monson: And this is what the people, and Lakewood is in Jefferson County, they want to shut down a French bakery that verbally they were told that they are crossing every T and dotting every I.
[62:52] Kurt Gerwitz: Yeah, you know, this story reminds me of my first job.
[62:57] Kurt Gerwitz: You mentioned your first job at the chicken and donut place.
[63:07] Kurt Gerwitz: It was this, you know, we were pioneers in this urban neighborhood.
[63:11] Kurt Gerwitz: And there was this urban park that had been neglected for decades.
[63:14] Kurt Gerwitz: And it was like the origin of this revival.
[63:19] Kurt Gerwitz: But these are the people who take that financial risk, the economic pioneers.
[63:23] Kurt Gerwitz: And they built this, you could get on a gondola and go around the lake in the park.
[63:31] Kurt Gerwitz: And you could have a drink and some snacks.
[63:34] Kurt Gerwitz: And I was working there and they lost their permit.
[63:39] Kurt Gerwitz: And imagine what happened next is the alderman's friend got the property.
[63:47] Kurt Gerwitz: And they actually, they threw in like a lot of money and built it even nicer than it was before, but it was just a complete government theft.
[63:56] Kim Monson: And yes, and that is, and they can take opportunity.
[64:04] Kim Monson: Now, a couple of things, and I want to get over here to Teddy Collins and Alicia Garcia with the second syndicate.
[64:09] Kim Monson: And the Second Amendment is there to try to keep over, to keep bad actors from acting bad.
[64:17] Kim Monson: But anyway, this came Benjamin Bin on the text line said what they'll do is they'll probably issue a stop work order and probably tell the bakery to shut down.
[64:25] Kim Monson: The code specifically states that inspections are to be done without malice.
[64:29] Kim Monson: Jefferson County has violated the code.
[64:32] Kim Monson: And so anyway, I just about ready to hit send on the change.
[64:38] Kim Monson: org andagain, just put in French bakery.
[64:40] Kim Monson: That is why our Constitution is so important.
[64:44] Kim Monson: That is why our Bill of Rights is so important.
[64:46] Kim Monson: That is why the Second Amendment is so important.
[64:49] Kim Monson: So, Teddy Collins, how about the segue from the French bakery to our Second Amendment rights?
[64:56] Kim Monson: Teddy Collins is a co- founder withAlicia Garcia of the Second Syndicate, great sponsor of the show.
[65:01] Kim Monson: He is also co- owner ofSpartan Defense, which is a firearm store, which is located in Colorado Springs.
[65:10] Kim Monson: You crack me up because we haven't gotten to meet in person yet, Teddy, but you are a man of just right to the point.
[65:22] Kim Monson: And, of course, I embellish all this stuff over here, but, Teddy, it's great to have you on the line.
[65:25] Kim Monson: Alicia, what do you think about my segue?
[65:27] Kim Monson: You know, nothing surprises me at this point.
[65:37] Kim Monson: I referenced a Denver Post article regarding Et Voila French Bakery.
[65:42] Kim Monson: But Teddy, and that was behind a paywall, but the article that featured you was not.
[65:51] Kim Monson: So you were in talking about all these new laws that have come into place here in Colorado.
[65:59] Kim Monson: And what I see is maybe it's a little slower, but all of these new laws coming out of the state legislature is trying to put firearms businesses out of business as well.
[66:08] Kim Monson: It's just maybe a slower process, Teddy.
[66:10] Kim Monson: At least that's what I got from reading the article.
[66:22] Teddy Collins: And I mean the true intent behind this, and the reason they're going after the firearms industry and the firearms stores in Colorado is because they're trying to take the constitutional rights by going after the businesses that facilitate it.
[66:40] Teddy Collins: on anything when they go after an individual's rights.
[66:42] Teddy Collins: So they're going after basically the right to purchase at this point, the ability to purchase.
[66:47] Kim Monson: Well, and as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, we watch all this legislation, and you had referenced that 6.
[66:55] Kim Monson: 5%excise tax on, I think it was on ammunition, if I remember right.
[67:00] Kim Monson: But ammunition- It'sfirearms, ammunition, it's a mix of things.
[67:05] Kim Monson: And we obviously took a stand against that.
[67:07] Kim Monson: But what will happen, consumers, six and a half percent, that's a hefty fee tax on something, is what will happen then is some people will go to out of state.
[67:20] Kim Monson: They might be traveling and they'll pick up some ammunition there.
[67:23] Kim Monson: And so what you start to see is a dink in your sales then.
[67:29] Kim Monson: And so again, the people that want to shut down people's rights, our Second of Memorandum of Rights, they know what they're doing, I think, Teddy, down at the state house.
[67:46] Teddy Collins: 2% on averagepercentagepoints that you pay in sales tax.
[67:48] Teddy Collins: But at the same time, businesses are shutting down in Colorado when it comes to firearms.
[67:55] Teddy Collins: And eventually, if you keep shopping out of state, if you keep going elsewhere, if you keep ordering online from businesses that are not local, you're not going to have anybody to facilitate your transfer.
[68:05] Teddy Collins: You're not going to have anybody to facilitate or to go and be able to go into a store and purchase ammo or firearms here in the near future if you don't support your local businesses.
[68:13] Teddy Collins: So I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but support your local store.
[68:18] Teddy Collins: Make sure that they survive, because without them, you're not going to have anybody fighting for you at the Capitol, and you're not going to have any way to be able to exercise your rights.
[68:25] Teddy Collins: And Alicia Garcia, what's your thoughts on all this?
[68:31] Alicia Garcia: Well, I mean, you know, TIDI is a great partner, not only to me and the Second Syndicate, but also in the Colorado Federal Farm and Fish and Sea Association.
[68:40] Alicia Garcia: So TIDI is also the vice president of that organization.
[68:43] Alicia Garcia: I work as the director of public relations and communications for the FFLs, which are the federal farms, my proceeds that we have here in the state of Colorado.
[68:53] Alicia Garcia: If we don't do something to preserve this industry and these businesses, it's going to just be another way that they can restrict access.
[69:01] Alicia Garcia: And by restricting access, they control what the people can do.
[69:06] Alicia Garcia: And that is completely un- Americanist against everything thatwe stand for.
[69:10] Alicia Garcia: And we want to make sure that we're not only standing up for these FFLs, but like he said, donate to them by supporting their business and making sure that if you are shopping local, make sure you support the businesses that are actually fighting for your rights, that are doing something.
[69:24] Alicia Garcia: because, you know, they're getting attacked too.
[69:26] Alicia Garcia: Not only are they getting attacked by the laws that they're being created, but they're being targeted as well.
[69:31] Alicia Garcia: I mean, I work with Teddy very closely as well as everybody over at Spartan Defense, and the day that these new laws and these things went into effect, there was a handful of those gun shops that were targeted for the very first day that these laws are expected to be, you know, in compliance.
[69:47] Alicia Garcia: There's a state knocking at their door with their clipboards and their pens, and they're ready to scrutinize and make sure that they can throw the book at people just for, you know, beating existence and having to spend all this extra time and money to comply.
[70:04] Alicia Garcia: Yeah, this is not easy to be resistant, but it's very important now more than ever that we, you know, keep persevering and pushing back.
[70:12] Kim Monson: Okay, so two things, Alicia Garcia.
[70:14] Kim Monson: Well, first to you, and that is how can people support you at the Second Syndicate?
[70:22] Alicia Garcia: So feel free to go over to the second syndicate, the 2ndsyndicate.
[70:26] Alicia Garcia: Hit that donatebutton because this is going to help us continue to not only have presence down at the Capitol, but to organize events the way we do, to keep people informed, to be on a show like yours.
[70:39] Alicia Garcia: That way we can keep the word out there and people understand that we're out here in the fight.
[70:46] Alicia Garcia: by also spreading the word, subscribing, and letting us know that, hey, they support the Second Syndicate and they want to be involved.
[70:53] Kim Monson: And do you have any events coming up right now that you wanted to mention, Alicia?
[70:57] Alicia Garcia: We have an event on September 13th at the Damage Factory in the Denver Tech Center.
[71:03] Alicia Garcia: And we also have an event coming up, I believe, in October, on October 4th with Spartan Defense, where we're going to have a huge range day with a whole bunch of really amazing brands, including brands like Staccato and Q, which are very high- end guns that youcan experience and come have a great time with those.
[71:19] Kim Monson: And, Teddy, just tell us a little bit about Spartan Defense.
[71:23] Teddy Collins: This is Spartan Defense located in Colorado Springs.
[71:26] Teddy Collins: We're family- owned and operated, andwe specialize in the things you don't normally find at stores.
[71:31] Teddy Collins: We actually have a lot of exclusives that are statewide that you don't see in any other store.
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[71:49] Kim Monson: Teddy and Alicia,it's great to talk with you.
[71:53] Kim Monson: We'll talk with you again next week.
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[76:27] Kim Monson: Kurt gerwitzisin studio with me and we- we're talking about et voila french bakery and uh, basically, jefferson county is threatening to shut them down because of some zoning thing which they sounds like that they'd gotten the verbal that everything was okay.
[76:45] Kim Monson: A couple of things, though, I wanted to mention that is is uh, rachel texted me says I forgot to mention that we are naturalized u.
[76:54] Kim Monson: Now thatis how much we love this country.
[76:56] Kim Monson: And then this came in on the text line: uh, let's see here.
[77:04] Kim Monson: Thank you, um, and another listener said, internet purchases for firearms, ammunition and accessories are also charged the six and a half percent tax.
[77:16] Kim Monson: So I would really recommend you get down to Spartan Defense and make your purchases there and support the business.
[77:24] Kim Monson: Okay, Kurt Gerwitz, this is another property rights issue.
[77:27] Kim Monson: And certainly you can have government coming and knocking on your door and wanting to make you compliant.
[77:36] Kim Monson: Or you can have them through taxes and fees, make things more expensive.
[77:42] Kim Monson: You have less money in your pocket, and one of those things is property taxes.
[77:49] Kim Monson: We have seen such an increase in property taxes because the gallagher amendment.
[77:51] Kim Monson: The people of colorado voted to get rid of the gallagher amendment and we had both democrats and republicans that were pushing to get rid of gallagher.
[78:02] Kim Monson: In fact, some of the big consultants were getting paid to encourage you to get rid of gallagher.
[78:08] Kim Monson: We said we don't think this is a very good idea.
[78:13] Kim Monson: But what we're learning is there's this insatiable um appetite by different governmental entities for more and more taxes.
[78:22] Kim Monson: Property taxes, trying to say it's for a good reason.
[78:27] Kim Monson: And the next, my next guest, dana bush, has recognized that there's something that's happening in denver regarding a gid which I had not really been familiar with, a gid, and it's a general improvement district which would the people in that district would agree to tax themselves more for certain things that I think actually should probably have already been paid for out of their taxes that they've already paid.
[78:54] Kim Monson: Welcome hi kim, I'm, uh, really grateful to be on the show today and uh, I could.
[79:00] Dana Busch: I could speak um for quite a long time about this.
[79:08] Kim Monson: Okay, let's start first with property taxes.
[79:10] Kim Monson: You live in Denver, and you pay a pretty, we don't need to give the amount, but you pay quite a bit in property taxes.
[79:18] Kim Monson: And if you want to give your location so people, why don't you set this up for us, Dana?
[79:26] Dana Busch: So I'm down in the Cherry Creek North neighborhood where we have tremendous development going on.
[79:40] Dana Busch: And so we were all quite shocked when we were told that we all wanted this general improvement district.
[79:48] Dana Busch: And when I preface it that way, we received, in the area we started receiving some postcards that looked no different than the one from the realtor and the landscaper and the art gallery down the street, requesting us to fill out a survey of wish list items, but never once said on these postcards, never made sure they got to the appropriate people, that anything that you would want on this wish list, you will be paying for through some kind of tax or fee or assessment that would be managed by the mayor and the city council predominantly.
[80:26] Dana Busch: And so this disingenuous way, they went about even collecting data.
[80:30] Dana Busch: And on top of it, the General Improvement District encompasses a very large area.
[80:36] Dana Busch: Besides my residential area, it's the shopping mall, it's the undeveloped land that EastWest Partners now owns.
[80:47] Dana Busch: It's now extending to a triangular area off of Colorado Boulevard and Cherry Creek Drive.
[80:53] Dana Busch: And so they're now forcing us into a situation that none of us have asked for.
[81:01] Dana Busch: So myself and several other people in our area are starting to raise awareness around this.
[81:07] Dana Busch: We have a website, Stop the GID in ccn.
[81:11] Dana Busch: But some ofthe egregious things that have happened is that we recently had a survey, one of these, again, surveys that really wasn't secure.
[81:23] Dana Busch: They had to kick out over 200 votes because of some kind of malicious bot getting in there.
[81:30] Dana Busch: And in our neighborhood, it was, again, questions about, do you want beautification?
[81:46] Dana Busch: You had to get to the very last question to say that you weren't even interested.
[81:50] Dana Busch: Several people didn't even get to the they weren't interested question.
[81:54] Dana Busch: But in our residential area, over 65% of the residents saidwe are not interested.
[81:59] Dana Busch: We do not want to pursue this any further.
[82:04] Dana Busch: They're forcing us into working groups to discuss all these things that they want to then tax us for.
[82:15] Dana Busch: Like, how do you have those kinds of numbers that say we don't want this and yet you're pushing us forward?
[82:23] Dana Busch: You're you're putting us into working groups and you're not listening to the people.
[82:30] Dana Busch: And this is just a small percentage of people that even saw the postcard that even replied to it.
[82:37] Dana Busch: The disingenuousness of lying about how big this district is.
[82:44] Dana Busch: I mean, I'll be quiet for a minute because you may have a question in here.
[82:51] Kim Monson: These surveys and these working groups, my experience on city council, this is the strategy.
[82:56] Kim Monson: First of all, the surveys, typically what I've seen is they use taxpayer money to pay for a survey.
[83:04] Kim Monson: And many times the survey leads you to the conclusion that the PBIs want to have accomplished.
[83:11] Kim Monson: So government money used to do a survey to then and then what they do is they say, they do is they say,
[83:20] Kim Monson: say, X amount of percent of people that replied to the survey said that they want this.
[83:26] Kim Monson: Well, typically, as you mentioned, it's a small percentage.
[83:28] Kim Monson: Many times it's people in the know that are pushing the issue that have responded to that survey.
[83:35] Kim Monson: Then the working groups that they're talking about, they use something that's called a Delphi method.
[83:41] Kim Monson: And once again, it's something that they'll bring people in and there will be some kind, and you won't even know it, a leader at the table who will, again, be driving the discussion to get to the conclusion that they want, but because they're coming to a consensus on something.
[84:00] Kim Monson: Consensus, if we came to consensus, we'd still be paying to the British crown right now, I think, Dana.
[84:06] Dana Busch: Well, and what's interesting with these current working groups that they're setting up in what they've identified as these four different areas, they're not even allowing us to do it in person.
[84:19] Dana Busch: And we have actually found a location for them where they could do a hybrid meeting.
[84:23] Dana Busch: And not only were we told no, but the consultants sent them.
[84:30] Dana Busch: And this same consultant is setting these up all over our city.
[84:38] Dana Busch: She actually is who ran against Michael Hancock for his final term for the Denver mayoral position.
[84:45] Dana Busch: So she has already set one of these up in ballpark in Rhino.
[84:50] Dana Busch: She's working on the one on Broadway Street.
[84:53] Dana Busch: And, you know, it's also this claim that these are, you know, these are services your city would never pay for.
[85:03] Dana Busch: And they keep trying to tell us, Kim, that the dollars that they would be pulling out of our residential area cannot be used anywhere else, not even, they claim, within the GID.
[85:16] Dana Busch: So why is it then, if you don't need our dollars and we are so vocal we want to be pulled out, why are you not pulling us out?
[85:27] Dana Busch: We have concerns that they could, because they'll lock us into 10 years.
[85:32] Dana Busch: We have a feeling that they will maybe try and write a bond against us.
[85:37] Dana Busch: Or we have a lot of city projects going through our area.
[85:46] Dana Busch: And oh, by the way, this is going to have this massive expense of managing this whole thing.
[85:55] Dana Busch: Somebody's going to get paid to do it.
[85:57] Dana Busch: Oh, yes, because they hire someone to run this.
[86:00] Dana Busch: And we've been told that we will need to have attorneys.
[86:07] Dana Busch: And initially, the way they were proposing it was a mill levy against your property taxes.
[86:14] Dana Busch: I sat down with Jamie and Amanda Sawyer, who's our council person at my house, with another person.
[86:22] Dana Busch: I said, so you mean to tell me that if we have security under you now, and a security man drives past my house three times a day, no difference in the house next to me, that I'm going to pay five times as much for that security ban because it's based on my property value for the same service.
[86:41] Dana Busch: I said, that is absolutely outrageous.
[86:48] Kim Monson: I'm talking with Dana Bush and regarding this gid.
[86:51] Kim Monson: And I'm not giddy about that gid, Dana Bush, at all.
[86:58] Kim Monson: But uh boy, we see this assault on businesses taking more money out of people's pockets.
[87:03] Kim Monson: They're going to tax people out of their homes.
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[90:37] Kim Monson: I definitely have Friday on my mind, but I also have property rights on my mind.
[90:42] Kim Monson: And in studio with me is Kurt Gerwitz, Professor Gerwitz.
[90:46] Kim Monson: But before I get all the greetings done, I didn't do two things, the word of the day.
[90:53] Kim Monson: Sophistry, and it's spelled S-O-P-H-I-S-T-R-Y, could be plausible but fallacious argumentation.
[91:02] Kim Monson: I think we're hearing some sophistry regarding this issue that Dana Bush is shedding light on regarding GIDS, General Improvement Districts.
[91:10] Kim Monson: It could also be the art or process of reasoning and logic.
[91:13] Kim Monson: And our quote of the day comes from the Medal of Honor quote book, which you should have in your Freedom Library at home.
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[91:27] Kim Monson: Then one of the things they do is honor our Medal of Honor recipients.
[91:30] Kim Monson: And on Friday, we always will share that quote.
[91:35] Kim Monson: Lange, United States Army Medal of Honor recipient, born 1947, died 2005 for actions taken during the Vietnam War, February 22, 1969.
[91:43] Kim Monson: He said this, may God bless each of us always, and may each of us always strive to be worthy of his blessings.
[91:50] Kim Monson: Okay, Kurt Gerwitz, let's get right into it.
[91:55] Kim Monson: She's talking about a general improvement district, which probably would be paid for by an additional increase in property taxes.
[92:04] Kim Monson: And when the people in Denver look at what they're paying for property taxes, significant amount.
[92:10] Kim Monson: And then the city, she's in North Cherry Creek.
[92:15] Kim Monson: But there's, when I drive around, there's crime, it's dirty, dangerous.
[92:22] Kim Monson: But what's your thoughts on all this, Kirk?
[92:25] Kurt Gerwitz: You know, when I was in my 20s and ideological and trying to, thought that my ideas could fix the world, someone said to me, whenever you see a system of injustice, ask yourself who's benefiting from it.
[92:40] Kurt Gerwitz: And it reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from you, Kim, is because I am so long not interested in politics.
[92:49] Kurt Gerwitz: I get disgusted by how the sausage gets made.
[92:51] Kurt Gerwitz: I get sick to my stomach hearing about what's happening at Voila and what's happening in this gid.
[93:01] Kurt Gerwitz: And it's like, so I'm not interested in politics.
[93:04] Kurt Gerwitz: And you would say to me that, well, politics is interested in you.
[93:15] Kim Monson: She was an American novelist, writer, and journalist, born 1908, died in 1998.
[93:20] Kim Monson: She said, people often say with pride, I'm not interested in politics.
[93:24] Kim Monson: They might as well say, I'm not interested in my standard of living, my health, my job, my rights, my freedoms, my future, or any future.
[93:32] Kim Monson: If we mean to keep any control over our world and lives, we must be interested in politics.
[93:37] Kim Monson: And Dana Bush is a citizen activist and has really shedding light on this.
[93:44] Kim Monson: And as you mentioned, the consultant and the consultants get paid typically pretty, pretty healthy sums to be consultants to all this.
[93:55] Kim Monson: I don't know the exact amount here with this, but I've seen a historical, from a historical standpoint, that's the occasion and the occurrence.
[94:04] Kim Monson: But Dana Bush, you and your neighbors are organizing and and saying: no, we don't need to do this, and you can.
[94:13] Kim Monson: You connected such a great dot- uh the sophistry of them coming in saying to you that, oh, all of the money will stay right here in your district and it won't go anyplace else, and you're like: well, if that's the case.
[94:32] Dana Busch: Well, and part of that too is why it shouldn't be necessary for you to lump us into this larger area.
[94:41] Dana Busch: Because, and we've said to them, you want to go forward with this GID in this much larger footprint that the whole thing encompasses.
[94:50] Dana Busch: That's great, but we should have the right as a residential area that you have defined to pull ourselves out.
[95:00] Dana Busch: About the only thing we've ever talked about as a neighborhood is security.
[95:06] Dana Busch: Country Club hires a private company that does a great job.
[95:13] Dana Busch: Why, in a million years, would we look at this current government that is a a dumpster fire of financial irresponsibility and lawlessness- manage any more of our money than they absolutely have to.
[95:33] Dana Busch: And as a lot of people say, and I think it goes to your word of the day, they have a solution looking for a problem.
[95:43] Kim Monson: To your point, Kurt Gerwitz, somebody makes money.
[95:47] Kim Monson: So you've the problem, the solution.
[95:50] Kim Monson: For example, homelessness in denver.
[95:53] Kim Monson: Uh, john hickenlooper said we're going to put more money into these programs and we'll get rid of homelessness.
[96:00] Kim Monson: Then mike johnston, mayor, mike johnston hancock- they've all put more money into the homelessness issue.
[96:07] Kim Monson: It's becoming a homelessness industrial complex.
[96:10] Kim Monson: People are making a lot of money on it and you put more money into something.
[96:14] Kim Monson: Think you're going to get more of it.
[96:18] Dana Busch: Well, and what's outrageous, too, an example with that, the GID that was set up around Ballpark, which is the baseball stadium, also created by Jamie Gillis, it took them three times to pass it.
[96:30] Dana Busch: And I could go down the whole rabbit hole of who's allowed to vote and all of that kind of stuff.
[96:35] Dana Busch: But their entire budget is going towards paying 21 people to work almost 24 hours a day, cleaning up feces, intervening with homeless, calling the police.
[96:49] Dana Busch: Now, when you tell me that these gids are set up to provide things in your area the city would never provide you, something like that's outrageous.
[97:00] Dana Busch: That neighborhood, in my opinion, feels like in order for us to salvage our neighborhood and make it livable and safe because of the city's policies and what they're not doing and how they're handling things, we have no choice but to take our own money and hire people to do that and to do the city's job.
[97:20] Dana Busch: With us, they want to shove things like, oh, you want flower pots on every corner managed by the city.
[97:27] Dana Busch: In a time like we're in, this is what you're trying to do in our neighborhood.
[97:33] Dana Busch: And, yes, so the consultant has already been paid$ 15,000 out of our city council budget.
[97:40] Dana Busch: This next chunk, I'm waiting for that figure.
[97:44] Dana Busch: But, you know, we expect when all is said and done that she'll walk away with probably$ 100,000 just for the process of going through the motions out of city council budget.
[97:55] Kim Monson: Well, and how does the city council get that budget?
[97:59] Kim Monson: How does city council, this is the thing people, I don't think, connect.
[98:03] Kim Monson: How does the city council fund all this?
[98:07] Kim Monson: And people may say, well, I don't own property.
[98:09] Kim Monson: But you actually will, well, this is another rabbit hole.
[98:14] Kim Monson: In a free market, you would be paying for higher property taxes if you're renting, except then you have Mike Johnston and company subsidizing some rents.
[98:24] Kim Monson: The developer, most times, and each deal is different, but the developer normally will get market rents for all the stuff that they're building.
[98:33] Kim Monson: But there are people that don't pay market rent because of whatever.
[98:38] Kim Monson: And so who is paying that difference between what the renter is paying and the developer is getting?
[98:48] Kim Monson: But yes, but the other thing that's unfair is the other renters that are paying full fare.
[98:54] Kim Monson: It's almost like a income redistribution.
[98:59] Kim Monson: But my point is is government doesn't increase, create anything.
[99:03] Kim Monson: It takes money either: sales tax, property tax fees, and we have got to get to a point to say no to this.
[99:17] Dana Busch: And the other thing that has become a very heated issue in our residential area is we have a neighborhood association.
[99:26] Dana Busch: We definitely and they have and we're they're crumbling now because they've actually chosen to take a neutral position, although their neutral position has been is now coming across as in favor of forcing this get on us, even though their mission statement is all about protecting our neighborhood, standing up to zoning and our member benefits.
[99:51] Dana Busch: And so, I mean, it's absolutely outrageous.
[99:56] Dana Busch: In fact, four of us were finally given permission to speak for 20 years.
[100:00] Dana Busch: minutes to our board yesterday about this.
[100:04] Dana Busch: And it's just, and quite frankly, there's, we feel that there's two for sure, one woman on that who happens to sit on the, two of them sit on the steering committee that's been planning this for a long time, well before coming to the neighborhood.
[100:21] Dana Busch: Another one sits on the Denver Moves, which is a bus thing coming to our neighborhood, and transportation solutions, and she's a consultant, and she's a former attorney.
[100:35] Dana Busch: And so we also have lots of questions about conflict of interest.
[100:40] Dana Busch: Amanda Sawyer has told us that she is not running again.
[100:45] Dana Busch: So I, you know, is she looking for a position?
[100:49] Dana Busch: Does she want to run this thing, this outrageously large, crazy, convoluted?
[100:54] Dana Busch: because now they're needing to figure out how they might charge us for these little services.
[101:02] Dana Busch: Is it going to be by square footage?
[101:04] Dana Busch: Is it going to be by sidewalk, you know, square footage?
[101:09] Kim Monson: If it's a sidewalk, you're really going to get dinged on that.
[101:14] Kim Monson: Kurt Gerwitz, I'm going to throw it over to you when we come back just because I can see the wheels are moving in your brain there as well.
[101:23] Kim Monson: We have discussions here, my friends, that you are not hearing most other places.
[101:30] Kim Monson: And we are standing up for you, the individual, regarding your property rights and your right to be able to live freely, but responsibly, for sure.
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[104:32] Kim Monson: And next Saturday on the 23rd, I will be out at the USMC Memorial for their 48th anniversary celebration.
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[104:48] Kim Monson: Once you're a Marine, you're always a Marine.
[104:54] Kim Monson: Joe can probably tell me exactly how I refer to that.
[104:56] Kim Monson: But David Bray will be performing, and so it'll be a great event.
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[105:08] Kim Monson: She is shedding light on something.
[105:10] Kim Monson: We've been running that spot from Mike Rawluk with Ralston Valley Coalition, where he says, when the bulldozers show up, it's too late.
[105:21] Kim Monson: So, Dana Bush, when the flowerpots show up ostensibly on your corner, it's too late, right?
[105:28] Dana Busch: Well, it's just, and again, what is so upsetting, in particular in our neighborhood, although I can tell you, the individuals in these other blocks are just as outraged.
[105:41] Dana Busch: We just happen to have a very strong coalition of individuals fighting this.
[105:52] Dana Busch: Over 65 percent of us say we're not interested, and when we mean we're not interested, there's nothing to talk about.
[105:58] Dana Busch: Why would we waste more money, more time, more resources, doing focus groups to have a conversation around things we don't want to have the city manage, we don't want to have a conversation about.
[106:09] Dana Busch: And this is- you know what you talked about- in kind of this disingenuous way of surveying people, this disingenuous way of these groups, because they will want to then take any little morsel they have as justification.
[106:22] Dana Busch: They've already done it and so um it.
[106:26] Dana Busch: And so when you feel not heard and the other thing that's happening in the neighborhood, because there's a lot of people that don't even know this is happening, and then there are people who have heard these survey results and they think the thing is over, which makes sense.
[106:40] Dana Busch: Their thought is they can do simple math.
[106:44] Dana Busch: Over 65%of people don't want this.
[106:48] Dana Busch: And that's one of the rumors that's going around that we're now having to navigate.
[106:58] Dana Busch: Why is it still moving forward, which is the bigger agenda?
[107:01] Dana Busch: I quite frankly think that this is, in part, a way to navigate the financial destruction that's going on in Denver.
[107:08] Dana Busch: It's a way to increase control of government.
[107:11] Dana Busch: And I think that they would like to form one of these, so they're butt to butt over the whole city.
[107:16] Dana Busch: And then what can happen is, is then you get in this, you know, she gave an example in the business district, because there's also bids, which are purely commercial.
[107:26] Dana Busch: There's the business district in Cherry Creek has had one forever.
[107:29] Dana Busch: They now are taking over some things that the city's responsible for doing.
[107:34] Dana Busch: For example, bagging parking meters.
[107:36] Dana Busch: You know, we can't afford to not have as much parking as available for people who are coming to the Cherry Creek shopping area on the weekends.
[107:45] Dana Busch: But the city will bag on a Friday for work being done on a Monday.
[107:50] Dana Busch: So now the business district, out of their own budget, is taking on that responsibility.
[107:55] Dana Busch: So I see this as a slippery slope that once you get stuck in one of these, then it pushes that issue.
[108:09] Dana Busch: And, you know, once they lock us in, then they can project roughly how much money is going to be had.
[108:19] Dana Busch: And then, again, do they write a bond issue against us?
[108:22] Dana Busch: Do they pull us into one of these city working projects?
[108:25] Dana Busch: One of our core group members, Wayne New, he's very loved and respected in our neighborhood.
[108:34] Dana Busch: He was our city council person for, I think, six years.
[108:38] Dana Busch: He was head of our neighborhood association for eight.
[108:41] Dana Busch: And, you know, so he knows some of the inside baseball around all of these things.
[108:46] Dana Busch: And, And, you know, the whole thing is very disconcerting.
[108:51] Dana Busch: And, again, we look at what's going on economically around the country, but in our state.
[108:57] Dana Busch: Every time I turn around, we are in the wrong direction when it comes to anything financial.
[109:02] Dana Busch: And so now you want at this time, out of any time, to force this kind of thing on us, especially for things that are just outrageously ridiculous.
[109:13] Dana Busch: Like, we would much rather our city council person, Amanda Sawyer, take that money and do something of value for our area in it, especially with how tragic Denver is when it comes to nearly everything these days.
[109:28] Kim Monson: Well, but, Dana, we're about out of time, but you and I talked about your property tax bill.
[109:32] Kim Monson: This would make your property tax bill go up.
[109:34] Kim Monson: I don't think that we should have Amanda Sawyer take any more of your money.
[109:38] Kim Monson: I think you should keep your own money.
[109:40] Kim Monson: if you want to put a flower pot out in front of your house, you should be able to do that.
[109:44] Kim Monson: But that is not the proper role of government.
[109:46] Kim Monson: Kurt, we've got, I want to give you a minute, and then we'll let Dana have a minute to button up.
[109:52] Kurt Gerwitz: Well, the road to heck is full of good intentions.
[109:55] Kurt Gerwitz: So there has to be, you know, like, you know, what I see is that seed of goodness that they're using to, you know, that's wrapped in the, it's actually a poison pill because, you know, they call it a general improvement district.
[110:08] Kurt Gerwitz: who doesn't want general improvement, right?
[110:11] Kurt Gerwitz: And if it didn't have some good, it would have no chance.
[110:15] Kurt Gerwitz: If you came in and just said, I'm a Disney villain and I'm wearing a black hat, everybody would absolutely, it'd be so easy to oppose it.
[110:23] Kurt Gerwitz: And so they control the narrative and they use language to do so.
[110:27] Kurt Gerwitz: And I'm amazed at how, Dana, you have the time to do this.
[110:38] Kurt Gerwitz: You're just playing defense against people who are trying to line their own pockets.
[110:41] Kurt Gerwitz: The narrative I heard was someone's trying to get themselves the next job.
[110:46] Kim Monson: So, Dana, in controlling the language, that's what these working groups are.
[110:52] Kim Monson: How would you like to button this up?
[110:56] Kim Monson: On a website, be sure and give that.
[111:06] Dana Busch: We have an article in the Lundale Chronicle, one in the Denver Gazette, and we were featured on Channel 4 News.
[111:13] Dana Busch: And all those links can be found on our website.
[111:16] Dana Busch: But what I'm encouraging people is if you don't want to lose your rights and your freedoms in your area, you need to wake up and you need to start doing something.
[111:26] Dana Busch: And, yes, do I have time to do this?
[111:27] Dana Busch: No, but the alternative is the destruction of my community and the destruction of our country.
[111:32] Dana Busch: And so there is a way for everyone to get involved in something that you're passionate about: to save our communities and save our country.
[111:41] Dana Busch: And so that's what I'm doing here today.
[111:43] Dana Busch: And I appreciate this opportunity.
[111:48] Kim Monson: In the spirit of our founding, thank you.
[111:53] Kim Monson: It says, this is Robert Louis Stevenson.
[111:55] Kim Monson: He said, everyday courage has few witnesses.
[111:56] Kim Monson: But yours is no less noble because no drum beats for you and no crowds shout your name.
[112:02] Kim Monson: So today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
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