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[02:38] Kim Monson: There's a lot going on in our world today.
[02:41] Kim Monson: I was at the Capitol for most of the day yesterday.
[02:46] Kim Monson: Teresa, who is our partnership liaison, and I went down for the hearing for House Bill 251312, which is the bill that, as proposed, would basically put in place several things.
[03:04] Kim Monson: But a couple of the really bad things on it were that if a child or if parents did not affirm a child's gender confusion or gender disillusion or delusion, I should say, that Child Protective Services could remove the child from the home.
[03:25] Kim Monson: And this is communist kind of stuff.
[03:34] Kim Monson: And then another is that, again, would shut down voices in as much as if you would not affirm someone's gender confusion or their delusion, and you would be considered discriminatory.
[03:51] Kim Monson: And this would also play out also then into the education system, Christian schools, not being able to teach Christian values.
[04:05] Kim Monson: The potential far-reaching consequences of this are so significant.
[04:13] Kim Monson: And so it was a really interesting day.
[04:16] Kim Monson: I said to Teresa as we were getting ready to go down there, I said, And I have lots of things to do, want to do, the creativity of the show, all that we have to do.
[04:26] Kim Monson: And I was frustrated in a way that we had to go down, pay for parking, spend a whole day of our time to stand against this very bad bill and stand for our children.
[04:40] Kim Monson: When the situation presents itself, we have to do it.
[04:47] Kim Monson: And Erin Lee and Lori Gemmelstein are both friends of mine.
[04:51] Kim Monson: And Lori is the co-founder of CPAN, Colorado Parents Advocacy Network.
[04:59] Kim Monson: And they had put on their website a great way to sign up to testify.
[05:07] Kim Monson: And then also they had a petition regarding defeating this 1312.
[05:12] Kim Monson: and as of yesterday morning 32,000 people had signed that petition so Coloradans are watching and they are I think they're aghast at what we are seeing down at the state house and I do want to say thank you to Senators John Carson and Senator Lisa Frizzell They are both Republicans, and they had great questions, and bless their hearts, they had to be there for the duration.
[05:46] Kim Monson: And the chair of the committee, Julie Gonzalez, said that they were going to shut off testimony at 1130 last night.
[05:58] Kim Monson: Teresa and I stayed until a little after 8, so we were there for nine hours.
[06:05] Kim Monson: And I know I want to also give a shout-out to Patty McKernan.
[06:09] Kim Monson: I sat next to her with Protect Kids Colorado, and Protect Kids Colorado and CPAN, Colorado Parents Advocacy Network, are really standing in the gap, informing people on what is happening down at the statehouse, and really taking a stand.
[06:25] Kim Monson: And in fact, Lori, I was talking with her.
[06:30] Kim Monson: And she said, Kim, she said, I don't think I really want to walk alone to my car.
[06:35] Kim Monson: I said, well, Teresa, I'll walk with you.
[06:38] Kim Monson: And then what had happened, though, is in the hallway there were some trans activists.
[06:43] Kim Monson: And apparently one of them came and pushed her from the back and then spit in her hair.
[06:48] Kim Monson: And at that point in time, Lori said, you know, I think maybe I might make a different choice.
[06:55] Kim Monson: And so the Colorado patrol that's in charge of the state patrol that's in charge of the Capitol did make sure that she got to her car safely.
[07:06] Kim Monson: Also, you get down there to the statehouse, and if you end up at one of those hearings that's late in the night, and Denver's not safe anymore.
[07:17] Kim Monson: And so you have to really, really plan ahead about parking and how you're going to get to your car, because going down to the people's house is a real endeavor.
[07:29] Kim Monson: But I was able to, Teresa and I were able to get into the, it was the old Supreme Court chambers where they heard, were conducting that particular committee hearing.
[07:45] Kim Monson: But there were so many people that were there that they had three other or four other overflow rooms, with people where they had to wait to be called to testify.
[08:01] Kim Monson: So people came down to the Capitol.
[08:03] Kim Monson: There was a rally at 1030 yesterday morning.
[08:08] Kim Monson: and so the people of Colorado are paying attention, which is really a good thing.
[08:12] Kim Monson: However, from a strategic standpoint, after being on city council, I could see some of the strategy that was occurring that happens with the committee chairs or the mayor of a city.
[08:27] Kim Monson: There's strategy involved in these committee hearings.
[08:32] Kim Monson: So I think the particular strategy with this was that there was over 700 people that had signed up to testify on this bill against it.
[08:44] Kim Monson: And that was both for online and in person.
[08:49] Kim Monson: And so, first of all, the chair of the committee, Julie Gonzalez, said we're going to give.
[08:55] Kim Monson: And I can't remember how many they said were for it, but clearly not even close to 700 people.
[09:03] Kim Monson: So instead of saying we are going to hear everybody's voices, she said we're going to have the same amount of time for those for and those are against.
[09:12] Kim Monson: So right there, she's putting her finger on the scale, saying that we're going to shut down some of these voices over here, and we're giving equal time, I have that in air quotes, to the issue, I guess you would say.
[09:28] Kim Monson: But she's not giving equal time to the voices of the people.
[09:36] Kim Monson: And then I am pleased that she did do pro and con, a panel of pro, a panel of con.
[09:45] Kim Monson: And I've actually seen in some of these contentious issues that sometimes they would have, and I say they, the radical activists, extremist Democrats, would pack in all of those that were for their terrible bill.
[10:04] Kim Monson: Or all of, well, we'll say that the terrible bill that everybody that was for it, and then make everybody sit and wait to testify who are against it.
[10:14] Kim Monson: So there's all kinds of different strategies that can be employed.
[10:18] Kim Monson: We're going to be talking with Scott Bottoms in the last segment of the second hour.
[10:23] Kim Monson: He's a representative, a Colorado representative down at the Statehouse.
[10:29] Kim Monson: And it's a story of Democrat, well, I think it's Democrat aides.
[10:37] Kim Monson: These are aides down at the, for sure, aides down at the Capitol, female aides that are uncomfortable with a male that is using their restrooms.
[10:49] Kim Monson: And the reaction by the leadership of the Democrat Party is unbelievable.
[10:56] Kim Monson: That's going to be in the second hour, the last segment.
[10:59] Kim Monson: So let's get over here, though, to our word of the day.
[11:05] Kim Monson: And the word of the day is sanguine.
[11:11] Kim Monson: And it could be cheerfully confident, optimistic.
[11:16] Kim Monson: Or number three, having blood as the dominant humor in terms of medieval physiology.
[11:22] Kim Monson: So your challenge is to use the word sanguine in a sentence today.
[11:30] Kim Monson: And even though, I don't know if I can say that I'm cheerfully confident, But I am optimistic that we have many people that are understanding that there really is good and evil.
[11:49] Kim Monson: We've gone through the period of relativism and postmodernism and where really anything goes.
[12:01] Kim Monson: Chesterton the other day, the danger is if you do not believe in God, it's not that you believe in nothing, it's that you will believe in anything.
[12:12] Kim Monson: And what I saw with the testimony yesterday with this whole transgender activism group, that they will believe in anything.
[12:21] Kim Monson: The other thing I was thinking about is that mankind, humankind, wants to believe in something.
[12:31] Kim Monson: And so there is all kinds of religion.
[12:33] Kim Monson: There is this religion, I think, of this trans activism movement.
[12:42] Kim Monson: when we had Greg Veeder on, who he also testified.
[12:46] Kim Monson: We had him on earlier in the week, and he's a therapist.
[12:51] Kim Monson: He had been a therapist for sex offenders.
[12:55] Kim Monson: And just when I talked with him about relativism and postmodernism, I kind of lost my train of thought.
[13:02] Kim Monson: I was thinking about his testimony as well.
[13:04] Kim Monson: There was a lot going on, and it was a late night, so we're going to stay on task here.
[13:11] Kim Monson: People are waking up, but they are flooding the zone with all these bills.
[13:15] Kim Monson: Oh, and I'll give you some additional, let me make a note here.
[13:20] Kim Monson: I'll give you the update on what happened with 1312.
[13:23] Kim Monson: But I was wondering, who should I have for our quote of the day?
[13:28] Kim Monson: And I was trying to think of somebody that had really stood in the face of evil.
[13:41] Kim Monson: He died in 1945, and Eric Metaxas had written an excellent book on Dietrich Bonhoeffer, which I read, and I know Colonel Bill Rutledge, 96 years young, has read it as well, but Bonhoeffer was a German Lutheran pastor, and he was a theologian, and he was an anti-Nazi dissident, and he was a key founding member of the Confessing Church, and his writings on Christianity's role in the secular world had become widely influential.
[14:10] Kim Monson: His 1937 book, The Cost of Discipleship, is described as a modern classic.
[14:15] Kim Monson: And what had happened with Hitler is Hitler had gotten many of the pastors of the churches to basically swear allegiance to him and the Nazis.
[14:29] Kim Monson: And in doing so, they moved away from preaching the gospel, and they moved away from standing for what was right.
[14:40] Kim Monson: And this was very strategic on Hitler's part.
[14:42] Kim Monson: And we've actually seen that with many of the modern churches in America today.
[14:47] Kim Monson: They're afraid to say anything that might take away their 501c3 nonprofit status.
[14:56] Kim Monson: And so I think I see some parallels with some of the things that were happening back before World War II and happening now.
[15:05] Kim Monson: And so Bonhoeffer, he took a stand.
[15:08] Kim Monson: He ultimately did end up in a prison camp.
[15:17] Kim Monson: And so I thought this quote from Bonhoeffer was really powerful as I was thinking about the Capitol.
[15:24] Kim Monson: You could feel evil yesterday, but you could also feel good.
[15:31] Kim Monson: He said, silence in the face of evil is evil itself.
[15:35] Kim Monson: And we need to let people know what is going on.
[15:39] Kim Monson: Mary Jansen had texted me that she had been talking with either a friend or a new client yesterday about and had mentioned 1312 and what it entailed.
[15:53] Kim Monson: And most reasonable people can't believe it.
[15:57] Kim Monson: But this is happening in our state right now, and we've got to stand against it.
[16:01] Kim Monson: So, again, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, silence in the face of evil is evil itself.
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[19:33] Kim Monson: And that whole industry has been under attack as well down at the Statehouse, but that's for a different subject on that.
[19:40] Kim Monson: On the line with me is my friend, and that is Paula Sarlls.
[19:46] Kim Monson: She's a Gold Star wife, and she's also the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation.
[19:50] Kim Monson: And Paula, my heart is a bit heavy after everything being down at the state capitol yesterday, but standing to protect those here at home has been something that the military has done.
[20:09] Kim Monson: And we owe our military and veterans such a debt of gratitude.
[20:14] Kim Monson: And so the work that you are doing with the USMC Memorial Foundation regarding the memorial, which is out at 6th and Colfax, is really so important.
[20:25] Kim Monson: And I appreciate your dedication to this, Paula Sarlls.
[20:28] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Well, thank you so much.
[20:31] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And yes, it's important to remember what they sacrificed for us.
[20:37] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And just the ones we're serving now, too.
[20:42] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Yeah, absolutely.
[20:45] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Keep them in our prayers.
[20:51] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I'll say we have to remember the ones that are serving now and keep them in our prayers.
[20:58] Kim Monson: Our world is, it's a hot spot right now in our world, and we have many, many people that are stepping up to serve.
[21:07] Kim Monson: The Marine Memorial here in Colorado is the official Marine Memorial.
[21:15] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Well, in 1977, on August 26th, the memorial was dedicated by the commandant of the Marine Corps, Louis H.
[21:25] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Wilson, and he dedicated it to all Marines for all time, to honor Marines and remember all who serve.
[21:34] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And so it's the only one in the country that was, there are other marine memorials, but this is the United States Marine Corps Memorial.
[21:46] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Okay.
[21:47] Kim Monson: So the facelift is important, and you were raising money for that.
[21:52] Kim Monson: And there's going to be a great golf tournament, the second one.
[21:57] Kim Monson: It's right around the corner now, right, Paula?
[21:59] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Right, it's May 15th at the Ridge at Castle Pines, and we have an 8 o'clockshotgun start.
[22:07] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And there's also a silent auction that you can bid on some things that are really cool.
[22:13] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: We just recently had some really nice Marine Corps backpacks and a bag donated to auction off.
[22:22] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: They're just super quality and really nice.
[22:27] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And then, of course, we have our special cane that was made by Ruben Archuleta.
[22:35] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: So that's really special.
[22:37] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And there's a trip or two in there.
[22:40] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I think one's a fishing trip, and I wish I could get that one.
[22:46] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I need a fishing trip.
[22:49] Kim Monson: Well, what you do, a fishing trip for your birthday would just be very, very easy because what, two years ago you jumped out of an airplane for your birthday.
[23:01] Kim Monson: And then this year, I guess it was last year, and then this year you did the step challenge out at Red Rocks.
[23:07] Kim Monson: And I know that you do share how old you are, because that's part of the whole fun of jumping out of the airplane or the steps.
[23:25] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I think 85 is middle age now.
[23:32] Kim Monson: Okay, and one other thing is the hole- in-onechallenge.
[23:37] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Yes, Lynn Lyle has donated a really nice Chevy Colorado truck for us.
[23:44] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: If you get a hole- in-oneon hole seven, you win that pickup truck.
[23:49] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: That's really cool.
[23:50] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And there's several other hole- in-onechallenges that are really nice as well, but they're not as spectacular as the truck.
[24:00] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Okay.
[24:02] Kim Monson: Okay, well, how can people sign up?
[24:04] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: There are some good golfers out there to win that.
[24:06] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: That would be special.
[24:07] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Wouldn't that be cool?
[24:12] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: They sign up by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.
[24:15] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: org,and there's a red banner across the webpage, and you just click on that, and it takes you to everything.
[24:25] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And to get to the auction, you have to scroll down, and there's not a banner but some red ink that takes you to the auction.
[24:33] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It's all online.
[24:37] Kim Monson: And Teresa and I, as we were headed down to the Capitol yesterday, were talking about it.
[24:42] Kim Monson: Well, I guess it was the other day we were talking about it, and I told her that you said that, yes, that could work for us.
[24:48] Kim Monson: And so she and I are going to come out for lunch.
[24:50] Kim Monson: I'm not a golfer, but I thought I'd love to come out and just see what's going on.
[24:55] Kim Monson: So she and I will be out there for lunch.
[24:58] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Yeah, you can register when you click on register on the website.
[25:04] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: there's a place if you're just going to come for lunch.
[25:06] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And they make a really good barbecue brisket lunch.
[25:12] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It's delicious.
[25:13] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Awesome.
[25:15] Kim Monson: Well, we will see you for sure on the 15th.
[25:18] Kim Monson: And, Paula, I so appreciate your dedication and your love of our veterans and our military, and I thank you for all the great work that you do.
[25:29] Kim Monson: You do some great work too, so thank you.
[25:32] Kim Monson: Okay, and that website, you bet, and that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.
[25:44] Kim Monson: And she is just an amazing woman, and I am so honored to call her my friend.
[25:53] Kim Monson: A couple of things before we get to break.
[25:55] Kim Monson: I did want to give you some updates on that House Bill 1312.
[25:59] Kim Monson: So what happened, we're all standing in line getting ready to go into the chambers and we start to hear that they're striking different sections out of the piece of legislation.
[26:14] Kim Monson: And so all of the pressure and all of the media attention, and again, thank you to Erin Lee and to Lori Gimmelstein for the great work that they do.
[26:28] Kim Monson: Lori is one of the co- foundersof Colorado Parents Advocacy Network, and Erin Lee is one of the founders of Protect Kids Colorado.
[26:39] Kim Monson: I sat next to my friend Patty McKernan, who's very active with Protect Kids Colorado.
[26:44] Kim Monson: And so we're all standing to get ready to go into the chambers, and we started to hear they're striking this section, and then they're striking this section, which that was all very positive.
[26:56] Kim Monson: but I realized that this again could be strategy.
[27:01] Kim Monson: The fact that they brought this bill doesn't mean that it's going to go away forever.
[27:06] Kim Monson: If for some reason this does get defeated, which would be great.
[27:10] Kim Monson: Rest assured that there will be something again next year.
[27:14] Kim Monson: That's why the Colorado union of taxpayers is so important that we're watching all of these things and you can actually, and you should probably do that is go over to our website, It's Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is also known as CUT, C- U-T,and that website is coloradotaxpayer.
[27:34] Kim Monson: And we had, and we've invested, now we're an all- volunteergroup, and dues are only, or to be a member is only$ 25 a year.
[27:44] Kim Monson: So we took and made an investment in CUT Engaged.
[27:47] Kim Monson: You can see that at the top of the website, CUT Engaged.
[27:51] Kim Monson: Click on that, and we have selected certain bills.
[27:55] Kim Monson: It was probably well into half of the legislative session was already over.
[28:01] Kim Monson: But we thought it was important to go ahead and get going on that.
[28:07] Kim Monson: In fact, Ben Williams had said the other day it took him 20 seconds to weigh in on one bill.
[28:17] Kim Monson: So, again, go ahead and make your voices heard.
[28:20] Kim Monson: I can see many of you are starting to use this.
[28:23] Kim Monson: And Mary Jansen had really suggested this.
[28:26] Kim Monson: And then I talked with Susan Harris, who's also a great sponsor of the show.
[28:32] Kim Monson: And they have an organization that's doing something like this, although they have a lot more money, much more involved.
[28:42] Kim Monson: But she said it's been very effective down there.
[28:45] Kim Monson: And I said, well, we're just starting.
[28:47] Kim Monson: She said it takes a little bit of time for people to understand just how easy it is.
[28:56] Kim Monson: Cut engaged and be informed because one of the things that they, again, a strategy is to flood the zone and make things.
[29:04] Kim Monson: There's so much out there, so much chaos, confusion that it's difficult to figure out where to weigh in.
[29:10] Kim Monson: We're trying to help you with that.
[29:12] Kim Monson: And I did want to say thank you to my fellow board members.
[29:14] Kim Monson: That's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Cory Ohnesorge, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard.
[29:28] Kim Monson: They are spending much of their weekends during the legislative session looking at legislation, and we've taken positions on almost 250.
[29:37] Kim Monson: I think I'll have to look at that here in just a moment.
[29:39] Kim Monson: So, again, we would really love it for you to join us as well.
[29:43] Kim Monson: That way you can be super informed on what's happening out there.
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[32:13] Kim Monson: We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
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[32:24] Kim Monson: pleased to have on the line with me the chairman of the Libertarian Party of Colorado, and that is Hannah Goodman.
[32:31] Kim Monson: And I heard her speak at a luncheon, and I thought, oh my gosh, you talk about someone who is just a fireball.
[32:43] Kim Monson: So Hannah Goodman, welcome to the show.
[32:49] Kim Monson: Well, it's good to have you, and I have lots of things to ask you about.
[32:54] Kim Monson: But I first wanted to just get your take on the political climate here in Colorado.
[32:59] Kim Monson: What's your comments on that, Hannah Goodman?
[33:02] Hannah Goodman: Well, we're definitely in a very serious fight of government overreach versus individual freedom.
[33:20] Hannah Goodman: Also, at the same time, we're seeing brilliant people step forward and become huge voices and advocates for liberty.
[33:29] Hannah Goodman: And so I think that is actually really, really exciting.
[33:37] Hannah Goodman: So we have to appreciate the fight and what we can gain from it.
[33:41] Kim Monson: Well, and down at the Capitol, there was this big fight yesterday on 1312.
[33:47] Kim Monson: And a number of my libertarian friends I saw there.
[33:51] Kim Monson: And as I'm looking at your positions, libertarian positions, I have a lot of very libertarian tendencies.
[34:00] Kim Monson: For sure, Hannah Goodman, we agree on a whole bunch of things.
[34:05] Kim Monson: So when I say my libertarian friends could be unaffiliated friends, I saw a lot of people down there very concerned about this 1312.
[34:15] Kim Monson: And so it was great to see them there, Hannah.
[34:19] Hannah Goodman: Yes, we had so many members from the Libertarian Party, as well as the Chainsaw Caucus, representing and helping to bring people's voices together and support the other organizations that are down there fighting and going toe-to-toe with this overreach that limits free speech and parental rights under the guise of kindness and whatever it is that they want.
[34:45] Hannah Goodman: always slap on the top like a bow for their terrible policies.
[34:49] Hannah Goodman: Yeah, so we were really excited to be down there yesterday.
[34:55] Hannah Goodman: I wasn't, but many members of my team were, and I was just really proud that they did so well yesterday, although as much as you can go up against the machine.
[35:05] Kim Monson: Well, it is a machine, but we've got to go up against the machine, and we've got this process.
[35:13] Kim Monson: It's called elections and it's people showing up.
[35:16] Kim Monson: Although it is a machine down there, as I'm watching as the president of Colorado Union of Taxpayers, it's a bill mill down there.
[35:24] Kim Monson: They're not deliberating bills, thinking about long range consequences.
[35:30] Kim Monson: There are agendas down there and you've nailed it.
[35:32] Kim Monson: It is overreach, government controlling your lives.
[35:37] Kim Monson: And yep, They like to put a bow on it as well.
[35:40] Kim Monson: So tell me, though, you mentioned the Chainsaw Caucus.
[35:49] Hannah Goodman: I've learned so much as chair and formerly vice chair of the Libertarian Party and I've really pushed the envelope on what a third party can do in Colorado as far as advancing liberty.
[36:05] Hannah Goodman: For me, my party, it's really not running elections.
[36:08] Hannah Goodman: It's actually a vehicle for enacting social change.
[36:12] Hannah Goodman: I'm finding it, in a sense, limiting as I'm coming to the end of my chairman term.
[36:18] Hannah Goodman: And I have been thinking, what else can I do to advance liberty?
[36:27] Hannah Goodman: And this vehicle of the Chainsaw Caucus, it is a nonpartisan grassroots coalition of people who are united for cutting through government overreach and trying to protect Colorado's freedoms.
[36:41] Hannah Goodman: We've been able to unite many liberty-minded groups like the Second Syndicate, like Colorado Freedom First, and for instance, like Coloradans for Energy, to be able to come together to try and stop bad bills, empower voters, share resources, and restore common sense governance.
[37:02] Hannah Goodman: If we can believe it, we could get back to common sense governance here in Colorado if we try.
[37:08] Kim Monson: Okay, so how can people get information about this?
[37:19] Kim Monson: Okay, yeah, so website, because I think this is brilliant, Hannah.
[37:32] Hannah Goodman: If you have a nonprofit, 501C3, 501C4, we can essentially politic together.
[37:40] Hannah Goodman: And the Chainsaw Caucus is a registered hybrid PAC, so we can do things like joint fundraising.
[37:47] Hannah Goodman: We can, with our own fundraising, be able to allocate resources.
[37:51] Hannah Goodman: Say, you know, we've had another bad bill like SB003 this year.
[37:55] Hannah Goodman: We would be able to then support, you know, Second Amendment groups, for instance, like the Second Syndicate, provide them resources to be able to get activists to the Capitol and all of these types of things.
[38:11] Hannah Goodman: The nonprofits are great for interfacing with our elected officials.
[38:16] Hannah Goodman: The Chainsaw Caucus being a PAC, we can, but legislators get a little weary of that, which is totally fine.
[38:33] Hannah Goodman: And key players that are Chainsaw Caucus members can be and are leading different fights for liberty across Colorado.
[38:42] Hannah Goodman: I mean, recently, one of our biggest successes is stopping the veto override on SB 86.
[38:52] Hannah Goodman: And that's, you know, not an issue that we were necessarily aligned with with some Republicans.
[38:59] Hannah Goodman: But we worked, many key members of the Chainsaw Caucus worked to help flip legislators' votes from yes to no to stop that override.
[39:10] Hannah Goodman: For once, we sort of, I guess, agreed with the governor that it was limiting freedom of speech and creating a police state.
[39:24] Hannah Goodman: And so we're working with legislators to find a really good way to marry those ideas from a liberty perspective going forward, though.
[39:32] Hannah Goodman: So getting involved is signing up on that website, meeting with my team, figuring out how we can best align and share resources with you guys.
[39:43] Hannah Goodman: Like, we want to be the support for all of these areas of the fight, because there's, the battle is huge and battlefields are many.
[39:52] Hannah Goodman: Like you say, that legislature is just here to crank out bills and laws and we need to be able to slash through that.
[40:05] Kim Monson: Now, cut did not take a look at that.
[40:07] Kim Monson: Uh, I don't think, senate, I don't think we took a position on this senate Bill 86..
[40:13] Kim Monson: So tell us a little bit more about that, because this is really interesting.
[40:16] Kim Monson: What happened with this veto and all this.
[40:20] Kim Monson: So set this up for us, because I've just kind of seen the headlines, because I've been busy focused over here on 1312 quite a bit.
[40:28] Hannah Goodman: So the SB 2586 is social media, was social media regulation.
[40:34] Hannah Goodman: Polis, actually I showed up at the Capitol to testify against this bill initially, and so did Bolas's office, and I was quite surprised to be sitting on the same panel as a representative from his office.
[40:49] Hannah Goodman: I was like, because normally I would say he's not a libertarian, and I would still affirm that position, but it was just interesting to be on a panel with his representation talking about it.
[41:01] Hannah Goodman: And the thing about it, it's a good idea because social media is a really horrible place for pretty much anyone, I guess, with no self-control.
[41:14] Hannah Goodman: But especially our kids, they're exposed to drug sales, weapon sales, apparently, all kinds of things.
[41:22] Hannah Goodman: And I would say that that's not good to expose our children to.
[41:33] Hannah Goodman: I'm deeply invested with the kids of my community, and I brought this issue to them on behalf of Representative Kelty.
[41:45] Hannah Goodman: This is not, you know, as it stands, our children are not protected.
[41:48] Hannah Goodman: But actually they are because it is the parents' responsibility to monitor their children's social media use.
[42:01] Hannah Goodman: Believe me, I know how difficult it is to monitor our kids' social media.
[42:06] Hannah Goodman: But the parents, it's the parents' responsibility to be watching what their kids are doing online and not the government.
[42:24] Hannah Goodman: And so that's the importance of being able to stop that bill override.
[42:30] Hannah Goodman: It's a rare win for the governor to veto that bill.
[42:35] Hannah Goodman: A blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again, as they say.
[42:40] Kim Monson: So, and this did have both Republican and Democrat sponsors on it, and people like me to give those sponsors.
[42:51] Kim Monson: Senator Lisa Purzel, and again, bless her heart for being in that committee hearing yesterday, but she's a sponsor on this.
[42:59] Kim Monson: Senator Lindsey Doherty, Representative Andrew Boesenecker, and Doherty and Boesenecker are Democrats, and Representative Anthony Hartsook, and he's Republican.
[43:10] Kim Monson: So, and I appreciate the way you're really getting to this, is should the government, At least this is what I'm hearing is the question was, should the government be in charge of this or should the parents?
[43:23] Kim Monson: Am I getting that from what you're saying, Hannah?
[43:28] Hannah Goodman: And, you know, with the bill, it really oversteps your right to speak freely.
[43:36] Hannah Goodman: And people like me and you, Kim, we're speaking out against all this overreach of government.
[43:42] Hannah Goodman: We're saying the unpopular things in this political climate.
[43:45] Hannah Goodman: That bill, if it had passed, could easily silence our voices.
[43:57] Hannah Goodman: So that's another point of the overreach of this bill.
[44:02] Hannah Goodman: So first it's overreaching parental rights and things like that.
[44:11] Hannah Goodman: And, you know, if you label somebody wrong, even you could be shut down.
[44:19] Hannah Goodman: And it's just we just don't need to give the government this power.
[44:24] Hannah Goodman: And I can understand addressing the issues and concerns of the day.
[44:26] Hannah Goodman: I definitely get that social media is not really our friend, right?
[44:32] Hannah Goodman: But overstepping our rights isn't the solution to that.
[44:38] Kim Monson: Boy, this is absolutely fascinating.
[44:41] Kim Monson: We need to go to break, but I want to understand a little bit more what happened exactly with that bill.
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[47:40] Kim Monson: I'm talking with the chairman of the Colorado Libertarian Party, Hannah Goodman.
[47:44] Kim Monson: She's also a– are you the founder or one of the founders of the Chainsaw Caucus, Hannah Goodman?
[47:56] Kim Monson: I'm just fascinated on this Senate Bill 86.
[48:03] Kim Monson: It passed both the House and Senate and got to the governor's desk.
[48:14] Hannah Goodman: And one of the notes that he made in his veto letter was that it's asking and compelling platforms to act as judge and jury.
[48:24] Hannah Goodman: And that was one of the main reasons for his vetoing the bill, for example.
[48:32] Hannah Goodman: And that's true because the bill bypasses judicial oversight, right?
[48:39] Hannah Goodman: And that undermines the First Amendment protections against government- drivencensorship.
[48:43] Hannah Goodman: So and that really is what the same thing he's been saying, that his office has been in opposition to this bill the whole time.
[48:53] Hannah Goodman: I remember sitting in committee and the panel of mostly Democrats was like the governors against this.
[49:01] Hannah Goodman: They're like, they're not even going to offer amendments.
[49:04] Hannah Goodman: So I'm certain the plan from their perspective was to veto the whole time.
[49:14] Hannah Goodman: And in that, you know, it's hard because it would have turned social media into a government surveillance tool, right, and silencing Coloradans' free speech.
[49:25] Hannah Goodman: And it's hard because we've fought so hard to protect rights, discussing guns, politics, or anything else without Big Brother watching us.
[49:35] Hannah Goodman: Really, the overview and the significant concerns of the bill was the potential to infringe on individual freedoms, specifically free speech, privacy, and due process.
[49:51] Hannah Goodman: And my opposition to it was that were these concerns.
[50:00] Hannah Goodman: We did our best to meet with legislatures like I met with Kelty.
[50:05] Hannah Goodman: Gonzalez, Woog, a bunch of our liberty hitters to grasp.
[50:14] Hannah Goodman: But he's got a really solid liberty foundation under him.
[50:17] Hannah Goodman: So it was really important for us to stop the veto override, and we were able to do that.
[50:35] Kim Monson: It goes back to have a vote to override the veto.
[50:42] Hannah Goodman: It started in the House and then would have done another vote in the Senate.
[50:46] Hannah Goodman: Both sides of the legislature would have had to re-vote to pass that.
[50:54] Hannah Goodman: So, of course, most of us are rusty on what the process is.
[51:02] Hannah Goodman: Because it's not something I've come across so far in my political career, which is not huge.
[51:09] Hannah Goodman: And so, yeah, that would be the process for a veto override.
[51:17] Kim Monson: Boy, this is huge and good for the governor.
[51:20] Kim Monson: I don't agree with the governor very often, but I do agree with him as you are explaining this.
[51:24] Kim Monson: Because, Hannah, I remember the Patriot Act, and I wasn't real.
[51:28] Kim Monson: You probably weren't even born yet.
[51:32] Kim Monson: And I remember it being presented, and I was just starting to look at these things from a political standpoint.
[51:40] Kim Monson: But my father always, I spent a lot of time with my dad.
[51:43] Kim Monson: And you're from the Eastern Plains.
[51:46] Kim Monson: And he had just a real understanding of freedom and the proper role of government, all those things.
[51:53] Kim Monson: And I remember hearing the Patriot Act, and it was being sold to us as to protect us.
[51:58] Kim Monson: And I thought, huh, boy, this doesn't seem like this is a good idea.
[52:03] Kim Monson: But it was after 9-11, and it's like, okay, well, they passed it.
[52:08] Kim Monson: Oh, my gosh, it's been used for so much government overreach.
[52:11] Kim Monson: And so when we get to these questions like this, the right thing to do is to stand on the side of liberty.
[52:22] Hannah Goodman: It can be often an unpopular place to be and it's hard but it's the necessary thing to do and it's hard to remind people, look you're giving up your rights, you're giving up your liberty.
[52:37] Hannah Goodman: Do you, it goes in with 1312, do you want the government to come co-parent alongside you and eventually take away all your parental rights and parent for you.
[52:50] Hannah Goodman: Most people would, most rational people would say no.
[52:54] Hannah Goodman: And so we always have to turn back to, yes, there's harm in the world.
[52:59] Hannah Goodman: How do you navigate the harm without government overreach?
[53:04] Hannah Goodman: And at the end of the day, that's really what this fight is about.
[53:07] Kim Monson: Well, it is really, and it's about the proper role of government.
[53:12] Kim Monson: And that's really what the whole founding of our country was about.
[53:16] Kim Monson: And, Hannah, I posit this question.
[53:20] Kim Monson: I really think that we are in the third founding of our country.
[53:25] Kim Monson: And the first, obviously, was the revolution.
[53:30] Kim Monson: We're in this huge battle of ideas right now.
[53:33] Kim Monson: And our founders put in place a system where we would engage in this battle of ideas, like you and I are doing this right now, instead of picking up arms against each other.
[53:43] Kim Monson: And that's why I think Colorado is at the tip of the spear on all this- to stand for liberty in this battle of ideas.
[53:49] Kim Monson: And this Chainsaw Caucus, I think this is really intriguing what you're putting together there.
[53:54] Kim Monson: So what you'd like to have people join you?
[53:56] Kim Monson: Is that what you'd like to have happen there?
[54:02] Hannah Goodman: We really want to connect with people who are looking to stand up and fight and get into positions.
[54:12] Hannah Goodman: You know, a caucus is basically just a group of people working together towards a similar idea in politics.
[54:20] Hannah Goodman: Yes, of course, there's caucusing within parties and all of the process for, you know, your internal party processes.
[54:27] Hannah Goodman: But we are just a group of people who are united behind the ideas of liberty in a nonpartisan way, looking to get into positions to help influence government policies as they're being handed down through our state legislature, our local offices, and things like that.
[54:46] Hannah Goodman: So we really want to get people involved with us and head over to the Chainsaw Caucus.
[54:52] Hannah Goodman: Check us out, our mission, what we're trying to do, and contact us if you're looking to align and get into– we can help people get into positions, you know, running for office.
[55:04] Hannah Goodman: We can connect people with the best ways to do that, resources.
[55:07] Hannah Goodman: We can help people with their nonprofits and helping them get established off the ground, as well as united on our different issues with liberty.
[55:21] Kim Monson: Hey, Hannah, we only have a minute left, and I meant to ask you this question, so I'm going to have you really lightning round on this.
[55:28] Kim Monson: And you and the Libertarian Party was very instrumental in helping Gabe Evans get elected to Congress.
[55:34] Kim Monson: So a minute to tell us quickly what happened.
[55:37] Hannah Goodman: So not only were we able to flip a congressional seat, which hadn't been done in 20 years, we were able to flip three House seats, which hadn't been done in 10 years.
[55:47] Hannah Goodman: The way we were able to help do that is by offering candidates who are running for office our Liberty Pledge, which is ideas that we can all align on.
[55:58] Hannah Goodman: And there's nothing terribly controversial that we would disagree on.
[56:01] Hannah Goodman: And so Kelty, Woog, Gonzalez, Gabe Evans, all of these people came under us aligned with liberty.
[56:11] Hannah Goodman: And we, as libertarians, chose not to run candidates against those people running for office.
[56:21] Hannah Goodman: And we were so proud to be able to start taking back seats here in Colorado, both on the congressional and state level.
[56:33] Kim Monson: I really appreciate what you're doing, and we'll have to get you on again very soon.
[56:39] Kim Monson: And after being down at the studio, not the studio, down at the Capitol yesterday, I chose Dietrich Bonhoeffer quotes for the day.
[56:49] Kim Monson: And he said this, he said, being a Christian is less about cautiously avoiding sin than about courageously and actively doing God's will.
[56:58] Kim Monson: So, my friends, today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[57:13] Kim Monson: And stay tuned for hour number two.
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[61:33] Kim Monson: And how I got to know them, it's really a question about the proper role of government and what PBIs, those politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties, sometimes try to do.
[61:47] Kim Monson: So our first thing is our quote of the day is from Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
[61:53] Kim Monson: And I chose it because there is so much happening down at the state house.
[61:58] Kim Monson: In fact, they're flooding the zone.
[62:01] Kim Monson: There's over 700 bills, maybe close to 700.
[62:06] Kim Monson: But over 700 bills or resolutions that have been proposed down there.
[62:10] Kim Monson: We don't need, I don't think we need another new law.
[62:13] Kim Monson: I would like to see many of these laws be repealed and see legislation to get rid of these things.
[62:21] Kim Monson: But there's a lot of things coming at us.
[62:24] Kim Monson: But something that has got a lot of attention was this House Bill 251312.
[62:29] Kim Monson: And Teresa Irby, who is handling our partnership liaison, and I went down and we were there for most of the day.
[62:40] Kim Monson: It was going to go until 1130 last night.
[62:42] Kim Monson: And I said to Teresa, I said, with this early morning hit on the show, I can't stay down here that long.
[62:48] Kim Monson: So we both submitted written testimony because I talked to Erin Lee.
[62:54] Kim Monson: She said, Kim, I don't think that they're going to get to everybody.
[62:57] Kim Monson: Well, they weren't because there was over 720 people that had signed up in opposition of the bill.
[63:03] Kim Monson: And so what has happened with House Bill 1312, there's been amendments that have been proposed that would strike several different sections of the bill, which is good.
[63:16] Kim Monson: Although my testimony, I basically said, you can't make a bad bill good with new amendments.
[63:22] Kim Monson: You just need to get rid of bad bills.
[63:24] Kim Monson: And so hopefully that is going to be defeated all across the board.
[63:30] Kim Monson: But again, this is what Dietrich Bonhoeffer said.
[63:33] Kim Monson: He said, silence in the face of evil is evil itself.
[63:36] Kim Monson: So if you see something, you should say something.
[63:40] Kim Monson: And certainly we need to be engaging in this battle of ideas by knowing the issues first and foremost.
[63:48] Kim Monson: If you know what's going on and you practice your communication skills, such as being a member of Liberty Toastmasters, you will start to become more effective in this battle of ideas.
[64:01] Kim Monson: Pounding your fist on the table, yelling, that's not going to persuade anybody.
[64:08] Kim Monson: And so it's important to realize that we do need to engage in this battle of ideas and in the communications with our friends and family.
[64:20] Kim Monson: I mentioned in the first hour that Mary Jansen said that she was talking with either a friend or a new customer and explaining 1312, which in essence would say, if parents, if you don't affirm your gender confusion of your child, child protection services could take your child away.
[64:39] Kim Monson: Now, bear in mind that they are being influenced, groomed, you can use whatever words you want.
[64:46] Kim Monson: And the best way to understand what's going on is to go to artclubmovie.
[64:52] Kim Monson: comand see the story of Erin and John Lee and their daughter Chloe.
[64:57] Kim Monson: And Erin has become this amazing voice regarding parental rights and what's happening with this trans activist extremist agenda.
[65:06] Kim Monson: And Bragging Rights for Us is she broke her story on our show.
[65:12] Kim Monson: Kane, who is on regularly as well, founder of Task Force Freedom Northern Colorado, shedding light on this pornography that is in our schools.
[65:23] Kim Monson: Again, the pornography that's in schools, if you see images, you cannot unsee them.
[65:28] Kim Monson: And the radical activist extremists that are having these books in our schools understand that.
[65:35] Kim Monson: So we need to have parental rights on these books in school.
[65:40] Kim Monson: if in fact these books, they have to get permission to see these books, because I think banning books is a dangerous road to go down.
[65:48] Kim Monson: But there, I also think there's age appropriate books.
[65:51] Kim Monson: And I would also then challenge us as adults, we really need to be looking, striving for high ideals, instead of pornography, those, those kinds of things.
[66:02] Kim Monson: But let's just talk about our children in our schools.
[66:05] Kim Monson: And those books need to be put aside.
[66:07] Kim Monson: And if a parent says, yes, I want my child to see pornographic books, then that could be their choice.
[66:16] Kim Monson: I think that's pretty bad parenting, but we are on the freedom side.
[66:21] Kim Monson: But anyway, Cain had said, there's this mom that's happened.
[66:25] Kim Monson: And I said, well, do you think she would come on the air?
[66:30] Kim Monson: And so she has gone on to be this amazing voice, but we've got bragging rights that we actually broke that whole thing on our show.
[66:40] Kim Monson: And that's why we're out there talking with people, searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues, freedom versus force.
[66:49] Kim Monson: And we get to do all this because we have really amazing sponsors.
[66:55] Kim Monson: And I am blessed to have Karen Levine, Remax Realtor, as a friend and a sponsor.
[67:00] Kim Monson: And she's been actually with the Kim Monson Show since before the Kim Monson Show.
[67:09] Kim Monson: And uh, there's a lot going on over in your world, and you were in last week and you didn't mention this on the air.
[67:18] Kim Monson: You said afterwards: but you got a really cool award, and I say it all the time that you work to protect property rights, and it's not just words.
[67:27] Kim Monson: You do it and then you got this award that affirmed that.
[67:35] Karen Levine: A dear, dear friend of mine, named Gary Bauer, was a private property advocate and he passed away several years ago.
[67:44] Karen Levine: An award was created in his name, and it is the Realtor Political Action Committee Advocate of the Year Award.
[67:58] Karen Levine: I do the work because it's the right thing to do to protect private property rights and homeownership.
[68:08] Kim Monson: And then also I- and I didn't ask you if I could say that, but you do some really special things for your, your clients, and um, they're doing something this weekend.
[68:19] Karen Levine: Yes, yes, it is our annual balloon event and one of the most recognized logos in the world is the RE-MAX balloon.
[68:32] Karen Levine: And so we will have two of them out in the Golden Lakewood area off of 32nd and Youngfield at Maple Grove Park.
[68:40] Karen Levine: And we will be doing tethered balloon rides and a pancake breakfast.
[68:44] Karen Levine: And there is a link that you can go and reserve your spot or you can come and get in line for the first-come, first-served balloon and enjoy a pancake breakfast.
[68:54] Karen Levine: The thing about hot air ballooning is it starts very early in the morning, so our rides start at 6.
[69:05] Kim Monson: So do you have to be a current client of yours, or can people that want to become a client of yours attend, or how does that work?
[69:15] Karen Levine: If you have some interest in meeting me in person and want to come by and start a conversation, a relationship, we would love to have you.
[69:27] Karen Levine: And the listeners of the Kim Monson Show, I consider friends and family.
[69:34] Kim Monson: Okay, so again, tell me, how can people sign up?
[69:38] Kim Monson: Because that's probably the best way to do it.
[69:39] Kim Monson: But you can just show up if you're thinking, I don't know if I can do it.
[69:44] Kim Monson: So how can people get that information?
[69:48] Karen Levine: The best way is to text me at 303-877-7516.
[69:51] Karen Levine: and I will send you the sign-up genius link, and you can pick your time on Saturday morning.
[70:00] Kim Monson: Okay, and again, that's 303-877-7516.
[70:04] Kim Monson: Karen Levine, congratulations, first of all, on walking your talk and this award, being recognized for that.
[70:11] Kim Monson: And then also, I love your creativity and all that you do.
[70:15] Kim Monson: And I know firsthand what a great job you do, as you are helping people buy and sell their homes.
[70:31] Kim Monson: So we will talk next week, Karen Levine.
[70:33] Kim Monson: Have a great day and a great weekend.
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[73:11] Kim Monson: And I had Paula Sarlls on in the first hour.
[73:15] Kim Monson: She's the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation.
[73:19] Kim Monson: And we've been talking about their great golf tournament that is going to be on the 15th of May out at the Ridge Golf Course in Castle Pines or Castle Rock.
[73:29] Kim Monson: And I'm pleased that both myself and Teresa Irby, our partnership liaison, are planning to go out there for lunch.
[73:39] Kim Monson: And I'm not a golfer, but I want to get out there and support the memorial.
[73:42] Kim Monson: And so if you're not a golfer, you can join for lunch as well.
[73:45] Kim Monson: And you can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.
[73:54] Kim Monson: And there is so much happening in our state.
[73:57] Kim Monson: And when I was on city council, I think it was really a God wink, a God thing.
[74:01] Kim Monson: I was at a meeting down at the Colorado Municipal League and came in and sat down next to this woman.
[74:08] Kim Monson: And she and I realized that we very quickly, that we were just a couple of the few people that, I would say, understood that the proper role of government is to represent the people and protect their right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
[74:24] Kim Monson: And former state legislator and Lakewood City Council, former Lakewood City Councilwoman, and that is Ramey Johnson.
[74:33] Kim Monson: and she also is on the board of CUT, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[74:44] Kim Monson: And it was just amazing that you and I ended up sitting next to each other at that Colorado Municipal League meeting.
[74:54] Kim Monson: It was a number of years ago, but it was almost like we instantly became friends.
[75:00] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I agree.
[75:01] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Frankly, it was a godsend, Kim.
[75:05] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: We've become good friends since then with a lot of respect and love for each other.
[75:11] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: So thank you for having me.
[75:17] Kim Monson: And I do want to mention also on just a little different note is your husband, Walt, it has been on his heart to just have a real conversation about all this climate stuff.
[75:26] Kim Monson: He's a geophysicist, and he's been uncomfortable with some of the narrative out there.
[75:30] Kim Monson: And so you guys decided to step up and make this movie a climate conversation.
[75:36] Kim Monson: And you guys asked me to be the moderator.
[75:38] Kim Monson: And I've gotten so many different people because they're broadcasting it on Newsmax regularly.
[75:44] Kim Monson: You can watch it for free at a climateconversation.
[75:47] Kim Monson: And I'll have people that will reach out and say, great job on that documentary.
[75:53] Kim Monson: So thank you to you and Walt for making that happen.
[75:56] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Well, thank you.
[75:57] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: You did a wonderful job.
[76:00] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And speaking of movies, about three or four months ago, Walt and I viewed a documentary called Half-Life Memory.
[76:10] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And it is regarding the contamination and the situation up at Rocky Flats and Rockwell.
[76:19] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And I was very taken by that movie.
[76:23] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I stayed in contact with the producer, and when he had a chance to get to Denver, we've been touching base with each other.
[76:33] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: We went ahead and secured Rockley's Events Center for May the 8th at 630 in order to screen this movie.
[76:44] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I'd like to say parking is limited, so please come early.
[76:49] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: The producer will be there, but also in this movie, Kim, there is a screenshot of a letter that was given to an FBI agent requesting his signature that he would not be honest when he testified in front of Congress regarding what he was seeing up at Rocky Flats.
[77:11] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And that FBI agent, the whistleblower, will be with us that night.
[77:18] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And also a lady that used to work at Rocky Flats and is cited in the movie and knows firsthand what the situation was like.
[77:29] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: But the reason why it's important for this community here in Lakewood to see this in Jefferson County is because the Federal Center is in play regarding a build out out there.
[77:44] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: This property was once known as the Horseshoe property.
[77:48] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It's 59 acres up adjacent to the Federal Center.
[77:54] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: In 20, or excuse me, in 2007, our city manager was involved in signing a contract to purchase land that in the morning was owned by the federal government.
[78:10] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: In the afternoon, Lakewood owned it.
[78:13] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And then by the close of the day, Centura Hospital owned it, or what we now know as St.
[78:19] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Anthony's or Community Spirit.
[78:21] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: it.
[78:21] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: That land too was contaminated and the remediation that was done was that they scraped off the soil there.
[78:33] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: They put it south of the hospital.
[78:36] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: There is an elevated parking lot that is covered with asphalt, which was the contaminated soil.
[78:43] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: People have been asking for that soil test for St.
[78:49] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Anthony's and nobody seems to have it.
[78:54] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I had heard, I did not hear this firsthand, that one of the representatives in the city did say when he was asked that the city doesn't keep documents beyond two years for that.
[79:06] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I don't, I have not verified that.
[79:10] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: If that's so, that is really egregious.
[79:13] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Well a couple years ago there was a company, a developer, Lincoln Properties, they are based in Texas and they went ahead and bought the 59 acres that has been in play for a long time.
[79:31] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Several years ago the federal government wanted to redo, repurpose if you will, one of the vacant storage units out on the federal center to put in illegal use from 13 to 19.
[79:50] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: That project got mixed.
[79:53] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And then this land was looked at by the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless, and that also got mixed.
[80:02] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Well Lincoln Properties, after they bought it, they created a separate LLC and it's called Lakewood Land Partners and they're the ones that are on the deed.
[80:15] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Because there are so many issues with and questions regarding this land, one of the concerns is if that it becomes so expensive to remediate the contamination, will they just walk away from it?
[80:33] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: But the reason why that's important is that it was accidentally found out by another lady, Linda Gorday, who had attended a West Metro Fire District Board meeting and they were voting that night on a TIF that they had developed with the developer.
[80:57] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It is not the, excuse me, developers are not authorized to be negotiating TIFs.
[81:07] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: That is tax money.
[81:09] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: They have no say in that process.
[81:14] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Well, it was put together.
[81:16] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: The fire department did vote on it.
[81:19] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And the way that I am reading some of this is apparently, one of the attorneys who is married to one of our county commissioners, was involved in that process, representing the land company that's doing this.
[81:41] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Also, I would just like to read.
[81:44] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Go ahead.
[81:47] Kim Monson: First of all, for people that don't know what a TIF is, it's a tax increment financing.
[81:53] Kim Monson: And we should probably– it's kind of complicated is what it is.
[81:58] Kim Monson: But the other thing, Rami, I'm not quite understanding the connection, because Rocky Flats, I thought that that was kind of north part of Jefferson County, and the Federal Center, I thought they were separate things.
[82:13] Kim Monson: I don't understand how, because I remember Rocky Flats was contaminated, but the Federal, how are they related?
[82:20] Kim Monson: I'm not, I don't quite understand that.
[82:21] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Sorry, I should have explained that better.
[82:25] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: The history on this land is that after or during World War II, the federal government acquired this property to make it a munitions factory.
[82:35] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And then after the war, that, of course, was abandoned.
[82:40] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And then it was built out as the federal center.
[82:44] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And I believe it houses something like 22 different departments of the federal government.
[82:50] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It's actually the largest area outside of D.
[82:54] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: C.
[82:55] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: that has federal entities, divisions on it.
[83:00] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I should have said that another single.
[83:02] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Interesting.
[83:03] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Okay, interesting.
[83:04] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I know.
[83:05] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: So there were a lot of contaminants that were actually dumped on that property after World War II, and they are known contaminants.
[83:17] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: in 2016.
[83:19] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: 2016.
[83:20] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: there was a court order to look at the things that are out there.
[83:24] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: There were 25 contaminants.
[83:27] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: 12 of them were known to be carcinogens.
[83:30] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Let me just kind of back up because this is interesting to know.
[83:34] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: We are both on the cut board.
[83:36] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: You do a phenomenal job really as the president of that.
[83:41] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: One of the bills that we looked at was House Bill 20, or excuse me, 1211, that has tap fees imposed by special districts.
[83:52] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Basically, it tells special districts how much they can charge for tap fees.
[83:59] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: One of the prime sponsors on that, the prime sponsor in the House, is the same woman that is the prime sponsor for 1312.
[84:11] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: This bill actually is directly related to the federal build out.
[84:18] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It was, in my opinion, a sell out to the developer and personally I feel like it was a betrayal to this community.
[84:29] Kim Monson: Yeah, I've got some other questions on that, Rami.
[84:36] Kim Monson: She's done a really good job, I think, of bringing these points together because it's complicated and so it's it's important to be able to organize the thoughts in our brains.
[84:47] Kim Monson: I think she's doing a really good job on that, because there are so many intersecting dots to connect on this, and that's why that's why these discussions are so important and we have them- because of our sponsors, and hannah goodman had mentioned the second syndicate.
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[88:07] Kim Monson: On the line with me is my fellow CUT board member, that's the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, Rami Johnson, and we're talking about the federal center and just the land seems to be in play.
[88:20] Kim Monson: And she's trying to explain this and connect the dots.
[88:24] Kim Monson: And then she's got a screening of a documentary on May 8th that I think will be part of connecting all of these dots.
[88:36] Kim Monson: Rami, so tell us a little bit about that, Rami Johnson.
[88:41] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Well, the reason why I'm screening the movie ahead of time, and I want to say there's no agenda here, I went ahead and picked up the fee for Rockleys.
[88:50] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Nobody paid me.
[88:51] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Nobody's getting paid.
[88:52] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It was because when I watched this movie and realized the federal center is in play regarding contamination, although it's a different scenario, that there's a lot of questions that the movie brings out.
[89:10] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And people will be coming that night that will be talking about some of the questions.
[89:16] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: The movie is actually going to kick off the discussion afterwards, not only with the FBI whistleblower and Judy Padilla, who worked up at the Federal Center, but there are other people that are going to be there.
[89:30] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Linda Gorday actually has done a phenomenal job on doing research on this.
[89:37] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And to me, when I read through all of the research, there's questions.
[89:43] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: We need answers to them before ground is moved.
[89:49] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Yeah.
[89:52] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And, Kim, one of the things that I would just, one of the questions is, is that the Lakewood Planning Department did, was presented what was called a blight study.
[90:07] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It was just briefly mentioned, and it showed 32 pages.
[90:12] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Well, somebody went back and did a Colorado Open Records Act and actually pulled the entire blight document, and it's 42 pages.
[90:24] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And in that document, it talks about, you know, blight type of issues.
[90:30] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: One thing I don't understand, Kim, is how can you even blight land that is just vacant sitting here?
[90:38] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: That doesn't make sense to me.
[90:40] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: But a blight report will talk about environmental remediation, the CDPHE or the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment, their findings, and any land use restrictions.
[90:54] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Well, that gets into play because in the blight report, it states that there's to be no soil disturbance, including digging, drilling, or grading on the northern section.
[91:10] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And also part of that says that no soil disturbance is allowed on the northwest corner and that groundwater to a depth of 100 feet is restricted.
[91:22] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: The blight report listed pesticides, but it emitted contaminants.
[91:33] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I'm not sure what's going on there.
[91:35] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And the deed to the property says that all 57 acres are contaminated.
[91:42] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: How is that possible when it's not to be touched and it's contaminated?
[91:49] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: The more that I understand or read about this, Kim, the more complicated it's getting and the more questions there are.
[92:00] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: One of the problems is that the planning commission feels that the federal government should do what is called a gap analysis.
[92:10] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: A gap analysis is, let's say, a developer buys a piece of property for$ 100 just trying to make this easy.
[92:22] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And then the gap analysis will say, you know, in addition to the acquisition of the land, you're going to have infrastructure, you're going to have water, all these things.
[92:33] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: In this particular situation, the gap analysis should also say what the remediation is going to be for the contamination.
[92:41] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And the reason why that's important is because Lakewood, the taxpayers have a stake in what's going on there through the tax increment financing.
[92:54] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: So if there is contamination that is going to cost, who knows, hundreds of thousands of dollars and the city's involved in that, the taxpayers are on the stake, what happens if that company that now owns this land realizes that they just can't do that contamination and they walk away from it, who is left holding the bag on this stuff because the city's involved.
[93:26] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: So we've not only got the federal government involved, it's not their business to do the gap analysis, although the city feels that they should.
[93:36] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: You've got the county, what appears to be an attorney for one of the county commissioners.
[93:46] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: You've got our state level that has gotten involved in this with these tap water fees, which was a sellout, in my opinion.
[93:55] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And now you've got the city involved in a piece of property here that has a lot of questions on it.
[94:02] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Something else that's really interesting while I'm going through all of these documents is that there's a new ordinance in Lakewood, and it states that hazardous land cannot be given to the city.
[94:18] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And this means that the landfill area with no ground disturbance restrictions cannot be dedicated for parkland.
[94:27] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: So if the developer were to decide to, hey, what we're going to do is just dedicate that 15 acres on the northern sign, which everybody apparently understands is highly contaminated, and they decide to make it into parkland, they can't do that.
[94:47] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: They can't at least give it to the city.
[94:50] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And, you know, we need answers, Kim, to some of this stuff.
[94:57] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: The southern portion of this project has been deemed safe.
[95:02] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: But the problem is, is how can that be possible when the deed indicates that all 57 acres are not to be touched?
[95:13] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: The thing is...
[95:16] Kim Monson: As you're talking about this, I'm having more and more questions.
[95:21] Kim Monson: Bottom line is, I think, Ramey, is there's contaminated land at the federal center.
[95:29] Kim Monson: You now have a developer that wants to do a development there.
[95:34] Kim Monson: The city of Lakewood, of course, they have to go through and get that permission to do so.
[95:43] Kim Monson: What do they want to develop on that piece of property?
[95:46] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It looks like at this point over 2,100 apartments.
[95:52] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: So it's not a small development.
[95:56] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And I believe it will also include commercial.
[95:57] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I have not seen really what you would think of as a site plan.
[96:03] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And that's another question.
[96:06] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: You know, what will the final build-out look like?
[96:09] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I think the thing for me is, Kim, is that the land is known contaminated.
[96:15] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It's been a concern with this community forever, really.
[96:20] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: But we don't know to what degree it is, and we don't know what the cost is going to be to remediate the contamination.
[96:27] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And we are going to have stake in this through this tax increment financing.
[96:36] Kim Monson: You know what I learned, Ramey, this is super complicated.
[96:41] Kim Monson: And I think you've done a really good job of trying to connect the dots on all of this.
[96:46] Kim Monson: But I think from my experience on city council, and I think also with you, by the time really that the public would get information about this in a regular scenario, all the deals would already be done.
[97:00] Kim Monson: There would not have been eyes on this whole process.
[97:03] Kim Monson: And I think that's why this is so important.
[97:06] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Exactly.
[97:08] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Everybody in this community knew it as the horseshoe property.
[97:11] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And then as soon as it was sold, all at once became The Bend, which is very confusing to have a name change to begin with.
[97:20] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Okay.
[97:21] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Okay.
[97:22] Kim Monson: I lost you for just a minute on that.
[97:24] Kim Monson: So we've got just a couple of minutes left, Ramey.
[97:27] Kim Monson: So connecting these dots is a bit of a process, but a great place to start on all this will be to attend the screening of this documentary on May 8th.
[97:40] Kim Monson: And how can people get information about it?
[97:43] Kim Monson: Do you have something out there regarding the screening of the movie?
[97:48] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: You can go to Even Bright.
[97:51] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: By the way, there is no charge.
[97:52] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Okay.
[97:58] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: I said you can go into the site Even Bright, and there is no charge for this.
[98:05] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: This is simply being done because I feel very strongly that this community not only needs to see the movie and find out what the questions are that we need to be looking at before anything happens on that property.
[98:22] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: And this will be the place where it's going to start.
[98:25] Kim Monson: We're going to get that information for Ramey Johnson.
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[101:15] Kim Monson: Do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo.
[101:19] Kim Monson: It's one of those things that put the kids in the car this summer and just drive down to Pueblo, have some good family time, and go to the Portraits of Valor, and you can talk about our history and then these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism.
[101:35] Kim Monson: And that website is AmericanValueCenter.
[101:38] Kim Monson: Rami Johnson is still on the line.
[101:39] Kim Monson: I appreciate her shedding light on this whole federal center thing out in Lakewood.
[101:45] Kim Monson: And I think it was on my end, Rami, I was having a little trouble hearing you, but wanted to make sure that we got that Eventbrite address for people to get their free ticket for the screening of the documentary.
[102:00] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: It is Eventbrite.
[102:02] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: You can go into there and just reserve a seat.
[102:06] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: We do have room for 360 seats.
[102:11] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: However, there will be a great deal of standing room only, and I anticipate we will probably reach that.
[102:18] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: There's, thank you, thank you for letting me.
[102:23] Kim Monson: Yeah, and what, so they go to Eventbrite and then what, what, what's the description to get to that ticket?
[102:32] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Half Life Memory, the movie Half Life Memory.
[102:39] Kim Monson: Ramey, thank you so much and I'm going to see you on the 8th.
[102:43] Paula Sarlls / Ramey Johnson: Thank you, Kim.
[102:50] Kim Monson: I was down at the Capitol yesterday for the rally against House Bill 1312, as well as state for testimony.
[102:59] Kim Monson: I ended up putting in written testimony because I did not think they were going to call me.
[103:05] Kim Monson: It was probably going to be close to 1130 at night and have a pretty early morning hit on that.
[103:10] Kim Monson: But I did see Representative Scott Bottoms there and he did speak at the rally and he is on the line.
[103:16] Kim Monson: Representative Bottoms, thank you for joining us.
[103:23] Kim Monson: And before we get into this subject, you are running for governor.
[103:30] Scott Bottoms: I am so frustrated with the things that are going wrong in our state.
[103:37] Scott Bottoms: com to check all that out and get your information and see if I'm the guy.
[103:46] Kim Monson: Okay, and one more time, what's that website?
[103:53] Kim Monson: Now, Representative Bottoms, there is something that has happened down at the Statehouse, and it's being swept under the rug, and you are shedding light on this and standing up for some young female aides down there.
[104:09] Scott Bottoms: Well, these legislative aides have been having to share their women's bathroom with men.
[104:20] Scott Bottoms: And men are, you know, they can say whatever they want.
[104:26] Scott Bottoms: But those kind of things, that's a fake context that they build.
[104:32] Scott Bottoms: They're biological men, and they're coming into these women's bathrooms.
[104:37] Scott Bottoms: And so when these women filed a complaint, a formal complaint, there's been complaints for years about this, and they've been stifled.
[104:46] Scott Bottoms: The women in this Capitol building get bullied day after day.
[104:51] Scott Bottoms: It happened last night with the whole transgender thing.
[104:54] Scott Bottoms: There were people shoving our representative women.
[105:01] Scott Bottoms: And this stuff is on video, but the Speaker of the House came after the Republican women on this because this is who she is.
[105:12] Scott Bottoms: Well, these aides filed a complaint, and immediately the attacks began.
[105:18] Scott Bottoms: All of this stuff is supposed to be confidential.
[105:20] Scott Bottoms: But all of a sudden these lawyers are coming after these aides from these transgender lawyer groups, and they're harassing them.
[105:28] Scott Bottoms: What the Speaker of the House should have done should have said, you know what, you're right, men no longer allowed in women's bathrooms.
[105:35] Scott Bottoms: That would have been the right thing, the ethical thing, the thing of integrity to do.
[105:39] Scott Bottoms: But instead, they just attacked the women, these aides, and have made their life miserable.
[105:46] Scott Bottoms: And they've done nothing except they filed a complaint.
[105:50] Scott Bottoms: And they didn't go through the right procedures to file the complaint, too.
[105:53] Scott Bottoms: In fact, I think there's a lawsuit that we're going to work on there.
[106:01] Kim Monson: So these are pretty young women, I think, right?
[106:03] Kim Monson: Aids normally are typically young people that are wanting to get some political experience.
[106:10] Kim Monson: And were they aides to Republican legislators or Democrats, both?
[106:19] Scott Bottoms: The aides that filed the complaint are Republican aides.
[106:29] Scott Bottoms: Some of the people now, there's the ones that are on the formal complaint and then everybody else that's involved.
[106:35] Scott Bottoms: And some of the ones that are involved are older.
[106:38] Scott Bottoms: But the people in question, the men that have been going in the bathroom are Democrat aides and Democrat representatives that are going in these women's bathrooms.
[106:49] Scott Bottoms: And, by the way, part of the complaint later, a week or two later, became that this male that had been going in the bathrooms is now stalking, and he's also an aide, is now stalking these girls around the Capitol.
[107:08] Scott Bottoms: The girls were told, well, just stay in public places.
[107:13] Scott Bottoms: Just come over to the Capitol building and stay in public places.
[107:17] Scott Bottoms: So now they're told stay in public places so this guy can harass them more, so he can stalk them more.
[107:24] Scott Bottoms: And one of the representatives said something to him about it, and he took off running out of the room.
[107:33] Scott Bottoms: But the worst part about this is not even that.
[107:38] Scott Bottoms: It's the fact that when these professional women make a complaint, they are vilified.
[107:41] Scott Bottoms: They are turned into the bad guys by the Speaker of the House and by the legal team at the Capitol.
[107:50] Kim Monson: So much for transparency and standing up for women, huh?
[107:57] Scott Bottoms: This was part of the thing that was happening last night was if it's women, if it's women that are going to stand up and say something or do something, they're going to be attacked.
[108:09] Scott Bottoms: And when a lot of these transgender groups last night in the Capitol building were going after the women, the speaker makes the women representatives and the women testify.
[108:21] Scott Bottoms: She vilifies the women because of her Marxist transgender ideology.
[108:27] Scott Bottoms: The speaker of the House is one of the biggest bullies I've ever seen in my life.
[108:34] Scott Bottoms: I do not care what that woman thinks about anything.
[108:37] Scott Bottoms: But she bullies our Republican caucus, and most of the time our caucus kind of just lays down and rolls over.
[108:44] Scott Bottoms: Part of it is because they don't know for sure what rights they have.
[108:49] Kim Monson: So, Scott Bottoms, I've watched this over the years.
[108:55] Kim Monson: And years ago, feminists said that they were standing up for women.
[108:59] Kim Monson: And they vilified domestic violence, vilified men, domestic violence.
[109:04] Kim Monson: And there's no excuse for domestic violence.
[109:10] Kim Monson: But it was all under this guise of protecting women and children.
[109:17] Kim Monson: And, again, I'm not saying domestic violence is okay, but I'm saying that they were taking the stand against men who were attacking women.
[109:32] Kim Monson: So now here we are in 2025 Colorado, and we have men attacking women, and they're now trying to vilify the woman.
[109:42] Kim Monson: And so you can see this Marxist ideology.
[109:46] Kim Monson: They can hide behind a lot of different things, But ultimately, it's not about what they really say.
[109:54] Kim Monson: It's about power control, destruction, destroying.
[109:57] Kim Monson: That's what it's really about, I think, Scott Bottoms.
[110:02] Scott Bottoms: This is an ideology, and I believe it's a Marxist ideology.
[110:09] Scott Bottoms: But also, just from being a pastor for 35 years, I recognize these things.
[110:16] Scott Bottoms: You take a room full of people and some man stands up and says I'm a woman.
[110:20] Scott Bottoms: They, uh, everybody in the room knows that's not true.
[110:25] Scott Bottoms: Everybody in the room says no, that that's a man.
[110:27] Scott Bottoms: But now you've got people fighting for this non-truth that says no, he's a woman, to the point where they have to hold on to it so strongly and control and manipulate so strongly that now they're actually attacking real women because these men are saying that they're a woman.
[110:51] Scott Bottoms: They shoved one of the people, the women, this man shoved a woman, spit in her hair, and the speaker is making the woman the person that's the problem.
[111:03] Kim Monson: I was actually, I wasn't there for the actual what happened, But I was standing in the hall where we were just probably eight feet apart.
[111:15] Kim Monson: So my friend, who got shoved and her spit in her hair, and then the person that did it, who had on women's clothing, but then as he walked by to go into the chambers, said something, and it was clearly a man's voice.
[111:30] Kim Monson: and then I also was not there, but then I talked to one of the aides of one of our women legislators who she was name-called, and I find this just so interesting because the chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee said that, gave us all these rules about what we could and couldn't do and respectful and listen and blah, blah, blah, but that wasn't clearly happening.
[111:57] Kim Monson: Scott Bottoms, We've got about 40 seconds left.
[112:00] Kim Monson: Thank you for coming on to give us the rundown on this.
[112:04] Kim Monson: I know you're going to be heading down to the Capitol.
[112:06] Kim Monson: Your final thought for our listeners.
[112:08] Scott Bottoms: Yeah, I think the biggest thing for me that's just deep in my head and in my spirit is we have to stand up to this stuff.
[112:18] Scott Bottoms: The people of Colorado, I'm saying Democrats and Republicans.
[112:21] Scott Bottoms: Democrats, your party has been taken from you by these leftist Marxist crazies.
[112:37] Kim Monson: Well, we're at that point, and we have to reclaim Colorado.
[112:42] Kim Monson: Representative Bottoms, thank you for making the time to join us this morning.
[112:47] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is from Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
[112:53] Kim Monson: He said this, being a Christian is less about cautiously avoiding sin than more about courageously and actively doing God's will.
[112:59] Kim Monson: So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[113:13] Kim Monson: God bless you, and God bless America.
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