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[01:05] Kim Monson: Com and it is labor day and we are pre-recording our shows for labor day.
[01:10] Kim Monson: But one of the most perfect people to talk with about labor day is scott powell.
[01:17] Kim Monson: He's a senior fellow at the discovery institute.
[01:21] Kim Monson: You can find his articles at Town Hall, The Federalist American Thinker, but he's written a very important book that I would recommend that you have on your Freedom Library at home, that you can pull this out on each of the holidays and talk with your children and your grandchildren about the significance of each of our holidays.
[01:37] Kim Monson: The book is titled Rediscovering America, How Our National Holidays Tell an Amazing Story About Who We Are.
[01:48] Scott Powell: Thank you for welcoming me, and welcome to your audience.
[01:51] Kim Monson: Well, and I cannot believe that it is Labor Day, which signifies kind of the end of summer.
[01:59] Kim Monson: We are at, as we were preparing for this conversation, I think you and I both agree that we are at a time.
[02:07] Kim Monson: And when I say that we were made for this moment, we certainly are.
[02:11] Kim Monson: I think this is our 1775 moment, 250 years later, and the third founding of our country.
[02:17] Kim Monson: and I know that you see this as a big issue as well, Scott Powell.
[02:25] Scott Powell: You know, the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, which is really the key document that announced that we were going to separate from Great Britain and pursue a new course that had not been seen by any other people or society before.
[02:48] Scott Powell: It was a vision where the people would be empowered, the government would be limited, and the freedom and opportunity of the individual would be protected.
[03:01] Scott Powell: But that did not exist for any society prior to the United States in the world.
[03:06] Scott Powell: In the history of the world, there was never a truly free society before America's announcement and its Declaration of Independence.
[03:16] Scott Powell: And, of course, we had to fight a six-year-long battle to gain that independence from Great Britain.
[03:22] Scott Powell: And then we had to go through a period of figuring out how to codify the Declaration of Independence in a system of government.
[03:31] Scott Powell: We started out with the Articles of Confederation that were very, not just imperfect, but really almost dysfunctional because there was no judiciary.
[03:41] Scott Powell: There was no system of government that could possibly work.
[03:51] Scott Powell: And so the Constitutional Convention was convened in 1787.
[03:56] Scott Powell: that was a full 11 years after the Declaration of Independence to create a government.
[04:03] Scott Powell: And it was convened in late May in Philadelphia, you know, summer, hot, humid.
[04:09] Scott Powell: My gosh, how were they going to pull this off?
[04:14] Kim Monson: And actually, that is a great segue to something that's going to be happening out here in Colorado, up in Grand Lake.
[04:21] Kim Monson: Constitution Week, which will begin on Monday, September 15th.
[04:26] Kim Monson: Constitution Day is September 17th, but they have things planned for the complete week.
[04:31] Kim Monson: I will be up there for the main event on Saturday the 20th, emceeing the main event.
[04:37] Kim Monson: And Jonathan Turley will be the– and he's a nationally known attorney.
[04:42] Kim Monson: He's really wonderful, and he will be the keynote speaker.
[04:44] Kim Monson: And so be sure and get ready and make your reservations to be up there for Grand Lake U.
[04:50] Kim Monson: And people can get more information by going to grandlakeusconstitutionweek.
[04:56] Kim Monson: But again, as Scott Powell said, it took from 1776 with the Declaration of Independence to fighting the Revolutionary War, going through the Articles of Confederation.
[05:09] Kim Monson: The different colonies were so concerned about centralized power that they had the Articles of Confederation, which didn't work.
[05:19] Kim Monson: And so that's why they convened the Constitutional Convention with the actual signing of the U.
[05:25] Kim Monson: Constitution on September 17, 1787.
[05:28] Kim Monson: And so it's important that people– well, and the other thing is, is I think sometimes people say that America is prosperous.
[05:36] Kim Monson: We live in such a prosperous time right now, Scott Powell, and it's hanging in the precipice because of what has happened with the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party and also many of our local, county, state governments.
[05:53] Kim Monson: And, of course, Donald Trump is pushing back on that at the federal level.
[05:57] Kim Monson: But people say that America is prosperous because of all our resources.
[06:03] Kim Monson: There's other continents that have all kinds of natural resources, and many of their people still live in third world situations.
[06:11] Kim Monson: It's not because of lack of resources.
[06:17] Scott Powell: Well, you know, human nature is flawed, and power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts.
[06:23] Scott Powell: The founders of our country understood this.
[06:27] Scott Powell: This was part of their DNA, the depravity of human nature.
[06:34] Scott Powell: You know, it's not something that we typically like to talk about with our friends who are all depraved, but they could see that depravity would be exacerbated by power.
[06:44] Scott Powell: And so they needed to establish a system of government that could mitigate this, that could check the corrupting influence of power.
[06:55] Scott Powell: And it was very successful until, you know, really until the 20th century where we began to do all kinds of things that changed it.
[07:04] Scott Powell: It changed that we really moved away from our Constitution in very fundamental ways.
[07:09] Scott Powell: I mean, we all know that FDR greatly expanded the government during the so- called, youknow, Depression years, creating new federal agencies and empowering them with taxpayer money.
[07:24] Scott Powell: You know, we've had the creation since 1970.
[07:29] Scott Powell: I forgot exactly the number, but I believe it's something like we added almost 10 new agencies since 1970.
[07:41] Scott Powell: And when we say government agencies, we're talking about federal government agencies that are empowered with federal government power.
[07:52] Scott Powell: And these are unelected people, okay, unelected.
[07:54] Scott Powell: And Congress has vested more and more authority to these federal agencies because they didn't want to, you know, they sort of wanted to outsource legislating.
[08:10] Scott Powell: They didn't want to get into legislating environmental issues, so let's create an EPA to do that.
[08:17] Scott Powell: And so much of our economy is regulated by unelected bureaucrats.
[08:21] Scott Powell: And you talk about the tendency to become corrupt.
[08:28] Scott Powell: These government agencies have become very corrupt.
[08:35] Scott Powell: That's what Doge discovered in spades, that we had a government out of control, literally.
[08:40] Scott Powell: The great America was being undermined by out- of- controlfederalgovernment agencies.
[08:47] Kim Monson: And these people, it's antithetical to the American idea.
[08:53] Kim Monson: And so we're going to continue the discussion.
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[09:06] Kim Monson: And Roger, let's talk a little bit about insurance reviews.
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[09:18] Roger Mangan: I think most of you, When you get your bill, now you're going, oh, my gosh, another rate increase.
[09:22] Roger Mangan: And to be honest with you, what's happening on the state farm, we're taking rate decreases of 6% to 9%in auto insurance.
[09:29] Roger Mangan: First time in about 10 years, we reversed the trend.
[09:37] Roger Mangan: And now that we've put maybe a cap on that for a while anyway, we should step back and see what you're paying for with the coverages you have.
[09:48] Roger Mangan: When you open up your bill, you go, oh, my gosh.
[09:52] Roger Mangan: Call your agent and say, I want a review of this insurance that's going up so much.
[09:58] Roger Mangan: And there are elements in the policy, for example, auto, there's probably five or six coverages, line item coverages.
[10:04] Roger Mangan: You can address each of them and say, is this necessary?
[10:10] Roger Mangan: Do I still need to cover my car for a collision?
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[10:25] Roger Mangan: And that's pretty close to accurate.$ 1, 900 to insure$ 7,300?
[10:34] Roger Mangan: So again, I admonish you to call your agent.
[10:39] Kim Monson: And, in fact, as our relationship has grown, I've moved everything to the Roger Megan Stain Farm Insurance team, bundling things together to try to get some savings on things.
[10:53] Kim Monson: But I can't say that I've ever had an insurance review.
[10:57] Kim Monson: Instead of just paying that premium, make that call.
[11:01] Kim Monson: But does it have to happen at renewal time?
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[11:11] Roger Mangan: The only time renewals come in is if you're going to add an endorsement that you don't have now.
[11:17] Roger Mangan: You usually have to do that at a renewal time, especially on homeowner's insurance.
[11:23] Roger Mangan: And we really welcome reviews, because it helps us know that you know that you're paying what you're getting: your money's worth on every line of coverage on your automobile insurance.
[11:36] Kim Monson: I think it's important that people pay for what they need, and that makes sense, but not a penny more, because people are getting squeezed across the board with inflation and all these different costs.
[11:50] Kim Monson: Do you have to be a client, a customer of the Roger Mangus State Farm Insurance team, or do you do other reviews as well?
[11:59] Roger Mangan: Well, if you want us to review, you can certainly get a review of your current insurance from us not getting into the coverages they have with the costs being charged for like items on a line item analysis.
[12:12] Kim Monson: And so I had a friend, now this was a year or two ago, that reached out to the Roger Manget State Farm Insurance team and bundling her insurance together, she was able to save about$ 1, 000.
[12:27] Roger Mangan: And even today, if I took this client of mine who owns this Audi and is paying$ 1, 908 every year tocover that car.
[12:36] Roger Mangan: If I could get that coverage down to about$ 600 or$ 700.
[12:49] Roger Mangan: But if you're in a situation where your lifestyle has changed, maybe the kids are out of school, you're getting closer to retirement, all your insurance needs really change.
[12:58] Roger Mangan: So when you say you have an individual family insurance checkup or review, it really relates to you as much as the coverage that you're buying.
[13:09] Kim Monson: Well, and that's what is so great about the Roger Mankin State Farm Insurance Team.
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[15:49] Kim Monson: I can't believe that basically that means that summer is over.
[15:52] Kim Monson: It means we're getting into football season.
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[16:05] Kim Monson: And a great place to get together to watch the games is Hooters Restaurants.
[16:08] Kim Monson: They have great specials, lunch, and happy hour Monday through Friday.
[16:13] Kim Monson: He is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute.
[16:17] Kim Monson: You can find him at Town Hall, The Federalist, American Thinker.
[16:20] Kim Monson: And he's written a very important book, Rediscovering America, How Our National Holidays Tell an Amazing Story About Who We Are.
[16:29] Kim Monson: And Scott Powell, this whole idea of America, the Declaration of Independence, the statement that all men are created equal with these rights from God.
[16:40] Kim Monson: Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness, and ultimately then was codified in the U.
[16:48] Kim Monson: Constitution, which was signed in 1787.
[16:52] Kim Monson: It was a journey, though, to get from, well, 1775 and before, 1775, 250 years ago, there was a lot going on to get to 1776, the Declaration of Independence, and then ultimately Articles of Confederation, which didn't give enough power to the federal government, but they were so concerned about a monarchy, they wanted to keep it limited.
[17:18] Kim Monson: Constitution, which, again, I would recommend that people check out Grand Lake U.
[17:22] Kim Monson: Constitution Week, which will be the 15th through the 21st up in beautiful Grand Lake.
[17:29] Kim Monson: The main event on the 20th is Jonathan Turley will be the keynote.
[17:35] Kim Monson: Go ahead and get more information by going to grandlakeusconstitutionweek.
[17:42] Kim Monson: So let's talk more about the Declaration, Scott Powell.
[17:46] Kim Monson: And Jefferson was the prime author, but there was a group of five, a five-member committee that included John Adams, Ben Franklin, Robert Livingston, Roger Sherman, and, of course, Thomas Jefferson.
[17:57] Kim Monson: But he was primarily the author of the Declaration.
[18:05] Scott Powell: I think the committee felt that Adams and Jefferson were the two most qualified because they had done a lot of writing.
[18:14] Scott Powell: And they were, you know, but all these people were remarkable people.
[18:18] Scott Powell: I mean, it's amazing to reflect on, you know, the five, because Roger Sherman was probably Roger Sherman saved the Constitutional Convention.
[18:35] Scott Powell: And Ben, who is called a deist, actually called the Constitutional Convention to prayer at a point where after about two and a half, three weeks, the convention was going to break down between the struggle between the big states and the small states on how you allocate power.
[18:52] Scott Powell: Of course, the big states say, hey, we have more people, so we need more people in government.
[18:57] Scott Powell: The small states said, hey, you know, if you get more people, then we're not going to have a voice.
[19:04] Scott Powell: And so the convention was going to literally break down.
[19:08] Scott Powell: And Ben Franklin, who had participated in the meetings of the Articles of Confederation during the Revolutionary War, and they always started every meeting with prayer.
[19:21] Scott Powell: For some reason, that tradition didn't happen at the Constitutional Convention until Ben Franklin said, we need to pray.
[19:28] Scott Powell: So he got up, he spoke, he offered a prayer, and then recommended that the convention break up for a few days.
[19:41] Scott Powell: When they came back, the whole atmosphere was different.
[19:45] Scott Powell: And it was Roger Sherman who had come up with a great compromise.
[19:49] Scott Powell: And the great compromise was simply every state gets two senators, so every state will be equal.
[19:54] Scott Powell: and the House of Representatives, the lower chamber, will be represented by population.
[20:04] Scott Powell: You'd think that, gee whiz, why didn't someone come up with it sooner?
[20:07] Scott Powell: Well, we don't know, except Roger Sherman was probably the most Christian delegate of all the delegates.
[20:13] Scott Powell: I mean, he was an incredible man, and he's the only delegate that signed all of the founding documents.
[20:29] Scott Powell: I can't remember what it was, the agreement on the Northwest Territories, perhaps, because that was going on at the same time.
[20:45] Scott Powell: Jefferson was chosen, and he drafted up this.
[20:48] Scott Powell: And what was interesting was, of course, that he was free to use the language that he chose.
[20:56] Scott Powell: And he drew from a lot of great minds, Locke being one, who stressed life, liberty, and property were key things that would protect a free society, and he substituted pursuit of happiness in place of property, which, as I mentioned, was sort of a...
[21:17] Scott Powell: You know, it cast a nice vision for people, more of a romantic vision of this new country called America.
[21:25] Scott Powell: You know, property is sort of just a fact, factual.
[21:29] Scott Powell: This was sort of, I think, a way of conveying this great experiment in America.
[21:37] Kim Monson: Well, and so let's talk a little bit more about pursuit of happiness and how that actually relates to Labor Day.
[21:45] Kim Monson: because what that means is your pursuit of happiness, it used to be with the monarchies and the people were serfs, that they didn't actually get to keep most of the fruits of their labor.
[21:59] Kim Monson: They could subsist on the fruits of their labor, but they couldn't keep most of the fruits of their labor.
[22:06] Kim Monson: That went to somebody up the stream, and ultimately the king or the pharaoh or whatever it is.
[22:12] Kim Monson: So this idea that people could pursue their happiness is directly related to property rights, which is directly related to labor.
[22:23] Kim Monson: And how would you connect those dots, Scott Powell?
[22:26] Scott Powell: Well, there's many ways of connecting them.
[22:28] Scott Powell: First of all, it's quite interesting to reflect on what labor is, you know, and how it's seen from God's perspective.
[22:42] Scott Powell: The Declaration of Independence mentions God four times.
[22:47] Scott Powell: In fact, I don't think God is actually used, but it was the creator.
[23:02] Scott Powell: And one of the wisest analysts of America was none other than Alexis de Tocqueville, and he came to America in 1830.
[23:10] Scott Powell: And between 1830 and 1840, he made numerous trips to America and he traveled all around America.
[23:17] Scott Powell: And his goal was to describe the uniqueness of America, what made America great.
[23:22] Scott Powell: America was already a great nation by 1840.
[23:25] Scott Powell: The Constitution was not really established until it was ratified in 1797.
[23:31] Scott Powell: So here it is, 30 years later, and America is this amazing, amazing country.
[23:40] Scott Powell: What he pointed out was, you know, he pointed out that what was unique about America was the vibrancy of the churches in America.
[23:56] Scott Powell: And so when I was writing Rediscovering America, I thought, well, let me.
[24:00] Scott Powell: And I was struggling on how I would tell the Labor Day story.
[24:03] Scott Powell: So I decided to do a word search in the Bible to find, and I used the word labor, I used the word work, and lo and behold, what came up was the Bible makes more than 450 references to the value and importance of work, specifically referring to work as a virtue more times than it refers to other virtues, such as prayer, faith, hope, joy, forgiveness, mercy, grace, or peace.
[24:31] Scott Powell: In other words, it's talked about more than those other Christian virtues.
[24:39] Scott Powell: You know, thus it was and still should be widely recognized that work is good for the soul and necessary to fulfilling life, you know, with dignity and meaning.
[24:51] Scott Powell: So Labor Day is really the celebration of that.
[24:53] Scott Powell: And so once I figured that out, then it was, you know, then it really opened the door to talking about Labor Day in a very powerful way.
[25:01] Scott Powell: Because, of course, what is unique about God's creation is that he created everybody to be different.
[25:07] Scott Powell: Every one of his human creations are different.
[25:12] Scott Powell: You know, we have different eyes, eye color.
[25:16] Scott Powell: You know, we now get verified by our voice because we have unique voices.
[25:24] Scott Powell: And so God knew that the creativity, creating people all in such different ways, it would be a very vital, his world, and America, you know, we can't say that, you know, God, you know, planned America.
[25:45] Scott Powell: But on the other hand, he planned everything.
[25:49] Scott Powell: So God foresaw the creation of a society that would better reflect his character than any other.
[25:58] Scott Powell: So he envisioned that America would be a very vibrant and productive place, because it would celebrate the individuality of people.
[26:09] Scott Powell: People would be free to express their individual, to be creative.
[26:13] Scott Powell: And when people are creative, they do interesting things, they solve problems, they create beautiful art and beautiful sculpture.
[26:29] Scott Powell: We take it for granted, but it's really the basis of a very dynamic and very healthy society.
[26:36] Scott Powell: It won't be a society without problems, but problems are best solved by freedom.
[26:48] Scott Powell: In other words, when you're working through a problem, you're coming up with different solutions.
[26:53] Scott Powell: You're having, you know, you support a process of debate and difference of opinion, and you want those ideas to compete and allow the best ideas to get to the top.
[27:07] Scott Powell: And when the best ideas get to the top in business, you have the best product.
[27:13] Scott Powell: You have the best approach to marketing and everything.
[27:16] Scott Powell: When you allow the best to get to the top in government, your results might not be quite as dynamic and uniformly good as they are in the private sector.
[27:27] Scott Powell: But nonetheless, it's a merit-based system.
[27:29] Scott Powell: You want the best ideas, the best people elected, and the best legislation, the best ideas to drive society.
[27:45] Scott Powell: So much of our problem today really revolves around the marginalization of God in our society.
[27:58] Scott Powell: We've become a more godless society than we ever were in our past.
[28:05] Scott Powell: And so the fallen nature, when God is marginalized, what happens?
[28:08] Scott Powell: Then the fallen nature comes to the fore in human nature.
[28:12] Scott Powell: There's no check to fallen nature without God.
[28:14] Scott Powell: It is God and, you know, a relationship with Jesus Christ who forgave us of our sins and freed us from our imperfection.
[28:23] Scott Powell: You know, when we feel saved, we feel free.
[28:27] Scott Powell: And that's what he did through his son, Jesus Christ.
[28:30] Scott Powell: But as we pushed Christ out of our culture, we have had more and more problems.
[28:35] Scott Powell: We've had a departure from the founding ideas and from the recognition that we really needed to have a limited and accountable government.
[28:47] Scott Powell: That was paramount in the eyes of the founders.
[28:49] Scott Powell: And we have, you know, we walked away from those ideas back in the days of FDR.
[28:56] Scott Powell: And you could trace it back to an earlier time.
[28:58] Scott Powell: I mean, if you really wanted to talk about how the growth of government, it came in fits and starts.
[29:03] Scott Powell: It really started with Teddy Roosevelt, who was a Republican, by the way.
[29:10] Scott Powell: And, of course, Woodrow Wilson was one of the worst.
[29:13] Scott Powell: He basically said, you know, America doesn't have all the answers.
[29:17] Scott Powell: You know, it's countries, it's this global, if we move towards a global order, we're going to improve.
[29:27] Scott Powell: Life will get better as we become more big-minded with a global idea.
[29:32] Scott Powell: Well, in fact, just the opposite has happened, as we know, because there's no accountability in a global order.
[29:40] Scott Powell: It's the only kind of government you'll ever get in a global system.
[29:43] Scott Powell: Whereas a limited government in a country like America, you actually could get a virtuous system.
[29:49] Kim Monson: Well, and that is why the whole American idea has been under attack for well over 100 years.
[29:55] Kim Monson: I think that we are in the third founding of our country, which is an exciting time to be living in.
[30:00] Kim Monson: Yes, most definitely, Scott Powell.
[30:03] Kim Monson: Before we do that, though, I wanted to mention a couple of things.
[30:06] Kim Monson: And one of those is the USMC Memorial Foundation.
[30:10] Kim Monson: They've got a great 5K run that's coming up in September.
[30:11] Kim Monson: You can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.
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[32:56] Kim Monson: I did want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show.
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[33:09] Kim Monson: We are prerecording this show, and I'm talking with Scott Powell.
[33:12] Kim Monson: He is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute.
[33:15] Kim Monson: You can find his articles at Town Hall, The Federalist American Thinker, and he's the author of a very important book.
[33:20] Kim Monson: book, Rediscovering America, How Our National Holidays Tell an Amazing Story About Who We Are.
[33:26] Kim Monson: And Scott Powell, in the last segment, we talked a bit about the movement away from the founder's vision of a limited government.
[33:36] Kim Monson: And of course, they were talking limited federal government.
[33:39] Kim Monson: And it began with Teddy Roosevelt, who was a Republican, but also a- and I have this in air quotes.
[33:46] Kim Monson: Progressive, because the progressive idea is that it it moved into and then played out with with gerald wilson- is that the elites are smarter than everybody else, and so we'll have them make all the decisions through bureaucracies that are not elected for the people.
[34:02] Kim Monson: Instead of this idea of the american idea of self-governance, we not only see that happening at the has happened at the federal level.
[34:11] Kim Monson: And Donald Trump and the MAGNA movement is pushing back on that.
[34:15] Kim Monson: That's why there's such an interesting time.
[34:18] Kim Monson: But I also see at the local, the county, and the state level that there's been a real encroachment upon limited government even in those arenas, Scott Powell.
[34:33] Scott Powell: Yeah, this, you know, we've allowed government to just keep growing at both the local, the state, and the federal level.
[34:43] Kim Monson: And because of that, I think people are finally paying attention.
[34:49] Kim Monson: We live busy lives, I get that, but we have a lot of conveniences.
[34:55] Kim Monson: I find it amazing that I can prepare for the show, do a load of laundry, get the dishes done, all basically at the same time because of modern conveniences.
[35:05] Kim Monson: Of course, those modern conveniences run on electricity or on power, and our affordability and accessibility to that power is moving towards being limited because of these bureaucrats.
[35:20] Kim Monson: I know that's a discussion for another day, but it seems like there's an assault upon our labor and taking more and more of our labor via taxes and fees.
[35:34] Kim Monson: And I guess ultimately that's what we want to get to- is because government out of control, taking more and more of the fruits of our labor, is exactly why our country was founded.
[35:52] Scott Powell: I was just going to say it might be a good time, since we're talking about Labor Day, is to understand how it came about.
[36:03] Scott Powell: But it didn't come along with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
[36:12] Scott Powell: But anyway, Labor Day actually was conceived in America in about the 1880s.
[36:20] Scott Powell: And it was conceived by union labor leaders who sought recognition for the accomplishments of American workers.
[36:28] Scott Powell: And Congress voted to establish Labor Day as a national holiday to celebrate workers' contributions to national prosperity and well-being.
[36:38] Scott Powell: labor standard of living rose above those in the rest of the world, the time between Labor Day and labor unions diminished over time.
[36:50] Scott Powell: And in fact, unions have passed their peak.
[36:51] Scott Powell: Labor union membership peaked as a percentage of the entire American labor force at about 26%in 1953.
[36:59] Scott Powell: Today, the share of workers belonging to unions hovers around 10.
[37:06] Scott Powell: And what is striking now is that union membership ratio of government workers, about 34% ofour government is unionized, which never should have happened.
[37:20] Scott Powell: And it's more than five times higher than the union membership ratio of private sector workers, which is only about 6%.
[37:30] Scott Powell: Only about 6% of theprivate sector is now unionized, whereas 34% of our governmentis unionized.
[37:39] Scott Powell: Well, what it means, look, what happens when people turn over their own freedom, their own initiative, their own creative solutions to a larger entity, a union, that the union then decides.
[38:02] Scott Powell: You're bringing into effect forces that ultimately do not lead to progress.
[38:14] Scott Powell: The unions, of course, are going to be looking out not for the interests of the productivity of the enterprise, but rather making their work conditions easier.
[38:27] Scott Powell: And yes, in the early days, there was a concern about safety.
[38:30] Scott Powell: Child labor and the safety of the workplace, it didn't happen overnight.
[38:37] Scott Powell: And the unions did play constructive roles in doing that, and they also played a constructive role in making sure that people that worked in certain trades were really qualified.
[38:47] Scott Powell: In order to be a member of the union, like the electrical workers, you had to know electrical engineering.
[38:58] Scott Powell: You might get a job as an intern, but you'd have to pass tests in order to become a labor union member that was really qualified.
[39:13] Scott Powell: And so people that were looking for qualified workers typically viewed labor as a source of really qualified workers in many of the trades.
[39:24] Scott Powell: And this goes back to the 1800s and the 1900s.
[39:29] Scott Powell: But labor unions really have had a– the cost of labor unions has probably outweighed their benefits, certainly in the last 50 years.
[39:39] Scott Powell: So question– Labor unions have really become oriented around more perks, more benefits for the workers, higher wages.
[39:51] Scott Powell: And any time you have coercive activity going on to determine those things, it doesn't lead to a good outcome.
[39:59] Scott Powell: Everything needs to be based upon competitive forces, because it's only competitive forces that bring out the best and get to the best result.
[40:08] Scott Powell: And the price of labor is no different than any other price element in economics.
[40:13] Scott Powell: And we all would agree that it's really good to have a competitive economy because it's a constant pressure to bring prices down and quality up, right?
[40:25] Scott Powell: It's sort of this hidden hand that Adam Smith wrote about is that quality gets improved, and competition of prices means lower prices over time.
[40:37] Scott Powell: You get better quality with lower prices in a competitive environment, and it's absolutely true.
[40:46] Scott Powell: So as soon as you get unions involved, they set wages.
[40:48] Scott Powell: It's not set by the market, and it should be set by the market.
[40:54] Kim Monson: So next question, then, as I had a conversation about labor, and the person I was talking to said, well, and I said an entrepreneur takes risk, and they may be rewarded well or not.
[41:13] Kim Monson: And labor, and he said, well, entrepreneurs many times are successful on the backs of labor.
[41:24] Kim Monson: And so we had a discussion about it.
[41:28] Kim Monson: Because then that seems to move that discussion over to unions.
[41:33] Kim Monson: And I said, but if an employee is striving for excellence, doing a great job, and the company's doing better and thriving in prospering, then that seems like where we want to be.
[41:45] Kim Monson: But the comment was that those business owners are successful because they're doing that on the backs of labor.
[41:54] Kim Monson: Well, no, in a free society, that's just a false statement.
[41:57] Scott Powell: And everybody knows it's false if they just think about it for a moment.
[42:00] Scott Powell: People are free to work where they want to work.
[42:03] Scott Powell: So if you don't like the working conditions and you don't like the wage that's being offered at a company, well, you don't work there.
[42:12] Scott Powell: or, you know, let's say you've been a laborer.
[42:14] Scott Powell: Maybe you're an electrician or you're a carpenter or you're a plumber and you've been doing that for 10 years and you notice that the company that you're working for has hired, you know, other people that work alongside you.
[42:29] Scott Powell: They get contracted out to do different things.
[42:32] Scott Powell: And so there might be 10 electrical workers or 10 plumbers working for a company.
[42:37] Scott Powell: So if you're the plumber and you know how to fix all the different likely things in plumbing, you might say to yourself, well, gee, I'm pretty good at this.
[42:49] Scott Powell: I have a strike off on my own, and I ought to train my workforce to know what I know.
[42:54] Scott Powell: And then I can give them a good wage, give them a good job and a good wage, and I will be participating in their success.
[43:05] Scott Powell: And so, you know, the way people get wealthy, the way they build their wealth, it can be done by sheer hard work of an individual effort.
[43:13] Scott Powell: But most people find that the leverage that an enterprise provides is a more sure way to building wealth.
[43:21] Scott Powell: You get other people working for you and you get a small participation in their success.
[43:27] Scott Powell: And so you're making more money as the owner of the business, and you're taking all the risks, too, because you had to put up all the capital probably for the business in the early days.
[43:40] Scott Powell: And you have to file the taxes and do all the accounting and make sure that the law is being followed, that the regulations, you know, that everyone's in compliance.
[43:49] Scott Powell: And there's a lot of headaches with running a business.
[43:55] Scott Powell: And so they should be rewarded by being able to make more money than the laborer who just really comes to work and goes home without a care in the world, right?
[44:05] Scott Powell: They did their best, their job, and they went home.
[44:07] Kim Monson: Well, and I think, yes, we need to continue to have that discussion in America today regarding labor and management.
[44:12] Kim Monson: And if there is a bad boss, then ultimately people should, as you say, should find a different boss, a competing company to work for or maybe start their own business.
[44:26] Kim Monson: So let's talk a little bit about that when we come back.
[44:29] Kim Monson: I'm talking with Scott Powell regarding bad bosses and what people should do about that, since we're talking about labor and it is Labor Day.
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[48:29] Kim Monson: I did wantto mention the Center for American Values, located in Pueblo, Colorado.
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[48:45] Kim Monson: And Drew is a Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took in the Vietnam War.
[48:51] Kim Monson: He is also a co- founder of the Center.
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[48:56] Kim Monson: He is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute and author of the book Rediscovering America, how our national holiday tells an amazing story about who we are.
[49:06] Kim Monson: And Scott Powell, I asked the question, what if people have a bad boss?
[49:15] Kim Monson: What would you say about the bad boss?
[49:17] Scott Powell: Well, the bad boss can be a catalyst for people to self- select and become entrepreneurs.
[49:24] Scott Powell: And when we think about Labor Day, we need to expand the idea.
[49:28] Scott Powell: It makes sense to also celebrate the entrepreneurs and the intermediaries who create jobs and new labor opportunities that come out of launching new business ventures.
[49:37] Scott Powell: And like the early colonial settlers, these dreamers are often the ones most willing to take risks in developing new products, services, and market opportunities.
[49:47] Scott Powell: and what's important to understand about Labor Day, past and present, is that these visionaries were the primary drivers of wealth creation that took the country, that's America, from...
[50:01] Scott Powell: Remember, when those colonists arrived on the East Coast, they didn't bring anything except maybe some stubbles and, you know, some tools.
[50:10] Scott Powell: But they couldn't really, you know, it was pre-industrial revolution.
[50:17] Scott Powell: But from those rudimentary tools, this great American economy was born.
[50:22] Scott Powell: So what was the, what was the, why did it happen more in America than in Europe?
[50:27] Scott Powell: Well, because of the attitudes of the American people, you know, that there was this entrepreneurialism that was just part of the American psyche.
[50:40] Scott Powell: Remember, to cross the great ocean, you had to self-select to do that.
[50:44] Scott Powell: So you were almost a risk taker by definition when you arrived in America.
[50:48] Scott Powell: And that's a key element of, you know, of what an entrepreneur needs.
[50:55] Scott Powell: They need to bear some risk trying something new.
[51:00] Scott Powell: And then I want to also remind everybody of creativity.
[51:04] Scott Powell: And, you know, what makes America, people talk about American exceptionalism.
[51:08] Scott Powell: And, indeed, we have been an exceptional country, and we are returning to becoming an exceptional country.
[51:14] Scott Powell: You know, and with corruption running amok in and around Washington, D.
[51:18] Scott Powell: C., it's understandable that the idea of American exceptionalism has become tarnished.
[51:23] Scott Powell: But still, no one can deny certain facts about the ways in which America is unique among nations in the world.
[51:32] Scott Powell: The United States represents only 4%of the world's population, but it has produced 96% ofthe world's creativity and 25% of theworld's wealth, providing more upward mobility than any other nation.
[51:44] Scott Powell: And it's little wonder that America remains the number one destination for immigrants because of these qualities that are part of America.
[51:53] Kim Monson: Well, and Scott, though, the immigrants that we would like to welcome to America are the immigrants that came here not for free stuff, but for freedom to pursue their happiness.
[52:08] Kim Monson: And the thing about free stuff is: government cannot give free stuff to people that it has not first taken away from somebody's productivity over here.
[52:17] Kim Monson: And I think that's important for people to understand as well.
[52:22] Kim Monson: We have about four minutes left about Labor Day and the redefinition from the union's component of Labor Day to the entrepreneur.
[52:33] Scott Powell: Well, you know, building on this idea of exceptionalism, you know, what's also exceptional about the United States is that we've had one constitution for 235, 36 years, while the average length of other nations' constitutions in the world has been less than 20 years.
[52:57] Scott Powell: So what accounts for our nation's longevity?
[53:00] Scott Powell: Making America truly unique and exceptional is found in the Declaration of Independence that established that citizens have unalienable, God- given rights thatcannot be taken away by the state.
[53:12] Scott Powell: And the founding of the United States was an exceptional moment in human history.
[53:17] Scott Powell: And because those ideas cannot be canceled or rescinded, our country remains exceptional.
[53:23] Scott Powell: I mean, as much as there are forces at work to take them away from us, they just can't be taken away.
[53:30] Scott Powell: And Labor Day celebrates American exceptionalism through the work and the accomplishments of its diverse and free people.
[53:38] Scott Powell: And you're so right, Kim, in reminding the audience that immigrants should come to be contributors to this great experiment called America.
[53:56] Scott Powell: You want to be free and be able to work and be free and be successful.
[54:05] Scott Powell: And those are the kind of people that have always been welcomed to our shores.
[54:11] Scott Powell: What we don't want are the kind of immigrants that we've seen coming over our borders in the last four years.
[54:18] Scott Powell: And now, you know, we're having to spend a lot of time and energy to, you know, to remove them from our society.
[54:25] Scott Powell: And, you know, we have to, you know, hope and pray that that mission is accomplished.
[54:30] Scott Powell: It's not easy to we have as many as as many as 20 million new immigrants.
[54:36] Scott Powell: The numbers are somewhere between 15 and 20 million people got into our country during the last four years of the Biden years.
[54:44] Kim Monson: Well, and Scott Powell, we are out of time on this, but we certainly want to lawfully welcome people that want to come here for freedom.
[54:52] Kim Monson: But the free stuff, what government giveth, government taketh away.
[54:56] Kim Monson: And we've actually seen that right here in Denver with Mayor Mike Johnston with there's no money.
[55:02] Kim Monson: And so he is now taking away some of these benefits.
[55:05] Kim Monson: People are losing their jobs at the city and county of Denver as well.
[55:08] Kim Monson: Scott Powell, we've got about 30 seconds left.
[55:10] Kim Monson: How would you like to wrap this up?
[55:12] Scott Powell: Well, I would like to wrap it up on a hopeful message because we have been through great difficulty.
[55:25] Scott Powell: But now we have an opportunity to really return to greatness.
[55:32] Scott Powell: And we have to be very grateful that God raised up a leader, not a perfect man.
[55:40] Scott Powell: Donald Trump is not a perfect man, but he is probably the most remarkable president that we have seen.
[55:47] Scott Powell: You could say, well, he's a unique person, so he is unique.
[55:51] Scott Powell: But he has the qualities of greatness that the times in which we live really need.
[55:58] Scott Powell: And because of him and his assembling a very, very strong cabinet, we are tackling these problems that many people had thought were unsolvable.
[56:08] Scott Powell: I mean, urban corruption, you know, the breakdown of law and order in cities was thought to be unsolvable.
[56:24] Kim Monson: My friends, we're getting ready for our number two, so stay tuned.
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[58:25] Kim Monson: Hoping you're having a great day, a safe day.
[58:29] Kim Monson: And we are pre- recording for LaborDay and very pleased to have on the line with me, you know him.
[58:37] Kim Monson: He is the CEO and founder of First American State Bank, which is a community bank located right here in the metro area in Greenwood Village.
[58:49] Jay Davidson: I always feel so good when you introduce me like that.
[58:56] Kim Monson: Well, and actually, Jay, well, a couple of things.
[59:01] Kim Monson: Let's talk a little bit about First American State Bank, because you are truly an entrepreneur.
[59:05] Kim Monson: You were the founder of First American State Bank, and community banks have really been the banks that have fueled mom and pop, their dreams of the American dream.
[59:17] Kim Monson: And so tell us a little bit about First American State Bank.
[59:20] Jay Davidson: Well, we started 30 years ago in 1995 on July 5, by the way, and have enjoyed 30 years of progress here in the Denver Tech Center in Greenwood Village.
[59:33] Jay Davidson: We focused on high value service to our customers.
[59:38] Jay Davidson: We we get to know our customers well and try to take care of them to the very best of our ability.
[59:46] Jay Davidson: That's the unique feature that the larger banks can't do by definition.
[59:51] Jay Davidson: Of course, they can do much bigger loans and bigger deals, but my niche is the individual that comes into my bank that I get to know.
[60:00] Jay Davidson: And I know their children and their grandchildren.
[60:03] Jay Davidson: And we're kicking and streaming, but coming into the technology age with mobile apps and positive pay features and treasury management products and so forth.
[60:15] Jay Davidson: So even though we're an old fashioned high service, high quality service bank, we've got a lot of technology products for the younger people who like to transact business, banking business on their iPhones.
[60:28] Kim Monson: So how can people get more information about First American State Bank?
[60:37] Jay Davidson: It'll link you into whatever you want to know.
[60:40] Jay Davidson: You can send us emails or call me or call anybody here in the bank, and we'll be happy to talk to you.
[60:46] Kim Monson: And again, that personal relationship is so important.
[60:50] Kim Monson: Working with great people that strive for excellence, First American State Bank, Your whole team over there is amazing, and I'm so honored that you are a partner of the Kim Monson Show.
[61:01] Kim Monson: But it is Labor Day, and you are really a student of the Austrian School of Economics in von Mises.
[61:09] Kim Monson: And explain that for people, if that may be new to them, what is the Austrian School of Economics?
[61:16] Jay Davidson: Yeah, the name that people might associate with the Austrian school is Milton Friedman, who was the economic advisor under President Reagan.
[61:28] Jay Davidson: Friedman's passed now, unfortunately, but I listen to his videos and I'd recommend that you do that.
[61:34] Jay Davidson: He wrote a book called Free to Choose, which is a book about economics, but it's a readable book.
[61:49] Jay Davidson: Hayek, orHayek's mentor, who is von Mises, who was the gentleman that started the Austrian School of Economics back in the 1800s.
[61:58] Jay Davidson: But the difference is there's two major thoughts now.
[62:04] Jay Davidson: The other one would be Keynesian, K- E- Y- N-E-S-I-N,economics.
[62:08] Jay Davidson: Andthen the offshoot of Keynesian economics is modern monetary theory, MMT.
[62:15] Jay Davidson: Keynesianism and MMT say that one dollar spent by the government actually amplifies its effect in the economy by 15 or 20 percent.
[62:28] Jay Davidson: Now, the Austrian school says, no, government spending is actually a detraction to economic development because all government spending takes away from free enterprise and from the private economy, from you and me.
[62:43] Jay Davidson: We're the ones that pay that, not the government.
[62:46] Jay Davidson: They just take the money from us and then make it look like they're really nice guys.
[62:50] Jay Davidson: Well, you know, they're stealing from the taxpayer to pay some guy that doesn't want to work.
[62:54] Jay Davidson: A lot of us in the conservative, fiscally conservative movement don't really appreciate that too much.
[63:01] Jay Davidson: If you want to enjoy the benefits of life, then great, you should.
[63:05] Jay Davidson: And you should have every opportunity to do so.
[63:08] Jay Davidson: But, you know, don't take from other people by sitting on your tail and not working.
[63:18] Kim Monson: It seems like I have that when you're on the show.
[63:21] Kim Monson: But I served on city council 2012 to 2016.
[63:25] Kim Monson: So on a regular basis, we would have people coming in to talk about a government program and how this was going to augment, you know, whatever percentage or whatever nominator it was, economic activity.
[63:41] Kim Monson: But I just realized that if a government dollar augments the economy a certain amount, well, if people kept that money in their pocket, they could augment the economy that much, right?
[63:59] Jay Davidson: Because the government money is inefficient.
[64:01] Jay Davidson: It has to go through a bureaucratic element that costs money.
[64:06] Jay Davidson: You have to pay these people salaries and benefits.
[64:09] Jay Davidson: And, you know, so every dollar that they take in in taxes, eventually maybe 60 percent of it gets back into the economy.
[64:17] Jay Davidson: So it's highly inefficient, not to mention all the things that the bureaucrats do to us in the interim when they regulate us and control us.
[64:32] Kim Monson: And, well, so with that, I think I'm going to mention a couple of things and then we'll go to break.
[64:40] Kim Monson: First of all, the USMC Memorial Foundation is doing great work in taking care of the memorial, which is right here in Golden, Colorado, and then raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial.
[64:51] Kim Monson: And it is so important that we stop and remember about those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom.
[65:01] Kim Monson: And a great way to do that is to support the Memorial Foundation with a contribution, or you could buy a brick to honor your loved one's military service or your military service as well.
[65:12] Kim Monson: So that website for that is usmcmemorialfoundation.
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[65:23] Kim Monson: And I'm blessed to work with amazing people that strive for excellence in their business.
[65:28] Kim Monson: and we are pre- recording the show,as I mentioned earlier, for Labor Day.
[65:32] Kim Monson: And pleased to have on the line with me Jody Hinzey with Mint Financial Strategies.
[65:41] Jody Henze: Always glad to be part of the show.
[65:42] Kim Monson: And Jody, since it's Labor Day and we're thinking about labor and people work hard, one of the great things about the American idea is that we should keep most of the fruits of our labor and then in the investment field, our own personal economic freedom is to try to grow the fruits of our labor and that's where you come in.
[66:05] Jody Henze: And that's part of the rewarding part of what we do.
[66:09] Jody Henze: And the fruit of your labor is the reward for your hard work.
[66:13] Jody Henze: And we at Mint Financial want you to keep as much as you can and be able to grow it, so that eventually you're able to obtain that financial freedom.
[66:24] Jody Henze: And so just like planting a tree, your financial life needs that attention and care to produce a harvest.
[66:34] Jody Henze: And so this Labor Day, I want to share three quick things.
[66:37] Jody Henze: three quick things.
[66:40] Jody Henze: First, plant wisely.
[66:42] Jody Henze: You have to have something to plant, which means that you can't spend everything that you make.
[66:47] Jody Henze: So we recommend that you save 10%to 15%.
[66:49] Jody Henze: Secondly, nurturing and watering your plant.
[66:54] Jody Henze: You can't ignore it.
[66:56] Jody Henze: You have to continue to invest on a regular basis, staying disciplined, and working with somebody like us here at Mint Financial to make those wise investment decisions.
[67:07] Jody Henze: And lastly, when it comes time to harvest, making sure that you have a strategy in place that addresses things like social security timing, asset drawdown, tax efficiency, and legacy planning.
[67:22] Jody Henze: And we can help you put together a plan that addresses all of those things.
[67:26] Jody Henze: And as you've mentioned in the past, Kim, we offer a complimentary consultation.
[67:29] Jody Henze: So I encourage all of your listeners, feel free to reach out.
[67:33] Jody Henze: You can reach us by text or phone.
[67:35] Jody Henze: Our number is 303- 285-3080.
[67:40] Jody Henze: Again, that's 303- 285-3080.
[67:41] Jody Henze: Or you can email me.
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[67:50] Kim Monson: Well, and Jody, this is such great advice.
[67:53] Kim Monson: And on the show, we talk about the macro many times.
[68:00] Kim Monson: We're watching what's happening down at the state legislature.
[68:03] Kim Monson: And all those things affect us because government doesn't produce anything.
[68:08] Kim Monson: It has to take that from our citizens.
[68:11] Kim Monson: So that's why we do a lot of work of shedding light on all this.
[68:15] Kim Monson: So we want to get to a point where government's in its proper role and it's funded for the proper priorities.
[68:22] Kim Monson: But otherwise, we want to keep that money in people's pockets.
[68:25] Kim Monson: So we talk about the macro, as Maggie Thatcher said, that you can't have political freedom unless you have economic freedom.
[68:34] Kim Monson: So on the macro, we talk about that.
[68:36] Kim Monson: But what I'm learning is that people kind of care about all that they do, but it's their own personal things that's going on.
[68:44] Kim Monson: So their own personal economic freedom is so– it gives people so much liberty.
[68:51] Kim Monson: And so your three things, to plant wisely, to nurture and water it, and have a good harvest strategy, in some ways it's just common sense, but it is what will give people their own economic freedom, Jody Henze.
[69:06] Kim Monson: And so that's what we're all about, is striving for excellence in all that we do.
[69:12] Kim Monson: So pleased to have Mint Financial Strategies as a partner of the show.
[69:16] Kim Monson: Reach out to them again one more time.
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[72:55] Kim Monson: Jay Davidson, in that first segment, after all these years, what an aha, as we're talking about the Austrian School of Economics versus the Keynesian modern monetary theory.
[73:11] Kim Monson: And during the break, we're talking about the Keynesians.
[73:14] Kim Monson: It's all built on government spending.
[73:17] Kim Monson: So when they're trying to sell a government deal to elected representatives and bureaucrats, so city managers or whatever, many times it's the bureaucrats that are presenting it.
[73:30] Kim Monson: But anyway, they present it as if you take this government dollar and do something with it, it's going to be a multiplier effect in the economy.
[73:41] Kim Monson: But if people kept that money in their pocket, that would actually be a multiplier as well.
[73:49] Kim Monson: And you drilled down during the break on that really well.
[73:51] Jay Davidson: Yeah, the point you're making, and this goes back to Milton Friedman and his book Free to Choose and the Austrian School of Economics, is that the money that you have earned is better off in your pocket because you earned it.
[74:13] Jay Davidson: You put blood, sweat, and tears into getting it.
[74:14] Jay Davidson: So you're going to be much more careful in spending it.
[74:17] Jay Davidson: And when you spend it, you're going to demand a certain price for that, that you will pay a certain price or you just won't buy something.
[74:26] Jay Davidson: And that puts discipline on the marketplace.
[74:30] Jay Davidson: So the effect of keeping money in the pocket of the individual is enormous.
[74:35] Jay Davidson: And that is the true powerhouse of America.
[74:39] Jay Davidson: You can say it's our natural resources and this and that and technology.
[74:43] Jay Davidson: But no, it's really the individual having the ability to make his or her own decision.
[74:51] Jay Davidson: And so the beauty of the Austrian School of Economics is that they go into great lengths about your freedom to choose.
[75:01] Jay Davidson: And one of the inalienable rights that Thomas Jefferson articulated in the first Declaration of Independence was the inalienable right to ownership of property.
[75:11] Jay Davidson: And they eventually changed that to happiness or something for a political reason.
[75:16] Jay Davidson: But, you know, that point still stands today.
[75:20] Jay Davidson: you do have an inalienable right to the ownership of your property.
[75:24] Jay Davidson: And conversely, the United States government does not have a right to confiscate your property from you in the form of taxation or debt.
[75:35] Kim Monson: Well, and not just the federal government, but even if we get the federal government under control, When we look at the amount of debt that's being incurred, school districts, the amount of taxation and fees at the local, county, and state level here in Colorado, that is also a confiscation of property.
[75:55] Kim Monson: Now, we agree that I think we agree there's a proper role of government, and there's a limited amount of things that government should do.
[76:05] Kim Monson: But above and beyond, we need to be standing for the, as you say, the sanctity of the individual.
[76:14] Jay Davidson: And the whole Constitution is built around controlling the government.
[76:17] Jay Davidson: If you read it, and it's not a big read, you'll find that everything they say in the Constitution limits the power of the government, defines the power of the government.
[76:30] Jay Davidson: And for too long, both parties are guilty of this.
[76:34] Jay Davidson: The Democrats are more guilty than the Republicans, but they're both wrong.
[76:37] Jay Davidson: They keep expanding the role of government in our lives.
[76:41] Jay Davidson: And that's why, for instance, I object to President Trump's tariffs.
[76:50] Jay Davidson: The reason is that a tariff is a consumption tax on the consumer, and the consumer is the American public.
[76:57] Jay Davidson: So he's effectively, through a tariff, taxing the American public, therefore taking money out of the pocket of the American where it is best where should best serve the economy and then the individual in this family and moving that into the government and breaking about all the income he's getting from tariffs buddy I'm sorry mr.
[77:22] Jay Davidson: Trump I mean you're great guy and all that but this This is not smart use of government effort.
[77:28] Kim Monson: And that whole tariff discussion is, it's interesting.
[77:37] Kim Monson: I'm conflicted on it, Jay, because I had talked with Helen Raleigh, who immigrated from China, and she's a proud American citizen, a proud patriot.
[77:49] Kim Monson: She writes for national publications.
[77:51] Kim Monson: And she said that the tariffs really have been one of his only negotiating tools that he had with China.
[78:00] Kim Monson: And the reason I think she was making the case for it is that China has been, I think you and I both believe in free, fair, honest trade, but when you have China using government dollars, for example, for the steel industry, to produce steel where they can come in and undercut the price of the U.
[78:24] Kim Monson: That's not free, fair, honest trade.
[78:26] Kim Monson: And so she had said that maybe tariffs were a good tool in his toolbox for that.
[78:33] Kim Monson: And so I'm conflicted on the tariffs.
[78:36] Jay Davidson: If I could offer your friend, who's obviously highly intelligent, another thought for her to consider when she has this conflict.
[78:47] Jay Davidson: What is the reason that American manufacturing moved overseas?
[78:51] Jay Davidson: Well, I think because labor was so expensive.
[79:00] Jay Davidson: Regulation was too high, it was too expensive, because you have to comply with a regulatory bureaucrat.
[79:10] Jay Davidson: So it was fiscal policy that forced American manufacturers to go overseas to find a cheaper source of labor and cheaper production costs to get their prices down.
[79:23] Jay Davidson: And then China wisely, you know, from their perspective, it's not good for us, but from theirs, they decided, oh, well, we're going to goose it a little bit.
[79:33] Jay Davidson: We'll subsidize some of this activity and take more and more and more of the American manufacturing base out of their hands.
[79:40] Jay Davidson: Well, and you and I would both agree that that's manipulation.
[79:48] Jay Davidson: It's government- funded privateenterprise, which is basically fascism.
[80:10] Jay Davidson: It's what you and I talk about all the time.
[80:11] Jay Davidson: Remove the regulatory burden from our shoulders as we do business.
[80:18] Jay Davidson: Remove the excessive taxation that occurs that takes a lot of our money away from us.
[80:26] Jay Davidson: remove the cost of us living here in America because when the government spends, when politicians enact a law, they enact spending, and that spending has to be funded by taxation and fee income from us citizens.
[80:49] Jay Davidson: So it would be much better if the government never enacted new spending programs so that we individuals could hold our money in our pocket, and then we can decide where we allocate those funds.
[81:02] Jay Davidson: And if we want to engage in a manufacturing process, then our capitalistic society will allow that.
[81:11] Jay Davidson: We can do that, but not when the government crushes us.
[81:13] Jay Davidson: So the solution to this whole problem that your friend articulates, and you're right, of foreign manufacturing has to do with excessive government intervention in our lives like we always talk about.
[81:27] Jay Davidson: Thank you for that clarification on that, Jay Davidson.
[81:35] Kim Monson: So with that, we're going to go to break here in just a moment, but very excited that I will be emceeing the main event for Grand Lake U.
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[84:54] Kim Monson: And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
[84:59] Kim Monson: And I wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show.
[85:03] Kim Monson: We are an independent voice on an independent station, which what that means is, is nobody is telling us who we need to have on the show or what we need to say.
[85:12] Kim Monson: We just are searching for truth and clarity.
[85:15] Kim Monson: And we use this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[85:19] Kim Monson: And on the line with me is Jay Davidson.
[85:22] Kim Monson: He is the founder and CEO of First American State Bank.
[85:25] Kim Monson: And how can people get more information about First American State Bank, Jay Davidson?
[85:29] Jay Davidson: Probably the best would be the web, FASB, First American State Bank dot com.
[85:36] Jay Davidson: And you can find everything you want to know there.
[85:41] Kim Monson: And relationships are so important, particularly in things as important as your money.
[85:51] Kim Monson: And so that's First American State Bank.
[85:54] Kim Monson: Jay Davidson, we've been talking about the Austrian School of Economics, which wants to limit government taking money from us so that we have more money in our own pockets to make our decisions, or the Keynesian model, which is played out in modern monetary theory, which it's all about government spending.
[86:13] Kim Monson: And what I have seen is that there's been this demonizing of success, demonizing of business.
[86:22] Kim Monson: And an example was I'd been talking with someone who had sold their business, been a very successful business, and they were building a big, beautiful home.
[86:33] Kim Monson: And he almost felt guilty for doing so, like, oh, gosh, maybe I should have given the money to charity or whatever, which sounds very altruistic.
[86:42] Kim Monson: But as I sat back and thought about it, just giving somebody a handout is you're not saying to them that you if you just give somebody a handout, you're saying to them you don't have anything of value that we need to trade for, which is capitalism.
[87:01] Kim Monson: And I think in a way that takes away dignity.
[87:05] Kim Monson: So as I thought about this couple that was building this beautiful home, they shouldn't feel guilty.
[87:12] Kim Monson: I think that they should be excited about their success and realizing that they've given people jobs throughout their business.
[87:19] Kim Monson: But also, as they're building this beautiful home, the people that are building it, the people that are the materials, the carpets and the draperies and all that, They're trading value for value, which says to the other person, I value you.
[87:37] Kim Monson: And I think it's important we understand that because there are those that want to demonize success, that want to demonize people being able to use their money as they want.
[87:51] Jay Davidson: And if you believe in a government-based solution, a central control solution to everything, then the one person, the one idea you have got to destroy is the concept of the rights of the individual.
[88:08] Jay Davidson: Now, I can't think of anything that's more contrary to our declaration of independence and our constitution, our nation's founding, than that one concept that, in this case, the left, and sometimes even the right, believe it or not, uh, infringe on the freedoms that are, uh, and the rights and responsibilities that accrue to the individual, based on our creator's decision.
[88:34] Jay Davidson: It's our creator has said, you have certain rights that I will bestow upon you.
[88:42] Jay Davidson: And life, liberty, and the ownership of property are the three that are articulated in the Declaration.
[88:48] Jay Davidson: And so, yeah, it's a way if people don't think about it, sure, they can look at somebody's success.
[88:57] Jay Davidson: They don't have a clue how long that guy worked, how many hours he put in, how many dark, lonely nights he was up worrying about making his payroll, all of the bureaucratic nonsense he had to go through to build that business and eventually sell it.
[89:12] Jay Davidson: They just see, oh, there's a rich guy, and he made his money on the backs of laborers.
[89:19] Jay Davidson: And that just blows my mind because, you know, in America, the last time I checked, every worker, every employee of every business can go anywhere they want at any time they want.
[89:33] Jay Davidson: They're free to choose where they go, and they choose to go to a particular place and do a particular job, and in that process their lives are enhanced.
[89:42] Jay Davidson: Also because, like you said, there's a dignity in work.
[89:47] Jay Davidson: They get this dignity of work, they get a paycheck, they can accumulate some money, they can build some wealth on their own.
[89:53] Jay Davidson: Capitalism has done more to spread the wealth than any other system ever in the history of mankind.
[90:02] Kim Monson: Well, and that is why the Marxist ideology wants to destroy capitalism.
[90:10] Kim Monson: So the fact that we would have, in Colorado, the teachers union at their meaning, basically demonizing capitalism, and then we know that many of those teachers are taking that to the classroom.
[90:21] Kim Monson: That is why we have to engage in this battle of ideas, which we do on a regular basis on the show, to help people understand these concepts and capitalism.
[90:32] Kim Monson: The idea that you can work and keep most of the fruits of your labor.
[90:39] Kim Monson: It was a such a novel idea when the founders put this down on paper and they didn't know what was going to happen.
[90:47] Kim Monson: But what happened, jay, was America happened, where everyday people could create wealth.
[90:54] Kim Monson: And it created this big, broad middle class that we have all these blessings right now, but it is under attack big time in this battle of ideas right now.
[91:07] Jay Davidson: And one of the most socialistic, communistic, progressive presidents we ever had was Woodrow Wilson back in the early 1900s, and a lot of the efforts that he put in place are still.
[91:22] Jay Davidson: We're still suffering from them, and they're certainly promulgated by other politicians on both sides.
[91:28] Jay Davidson: But the whole concept that we're, you know, trying to get across here was is that you, as an individual, have certain inalienable rights that are articulated and they're only articulated in the declaration of independence.
[91:41] Jay Davidson: They come from the almighty, from the creator, for you know, brahman, I, whatever you want to call him or her, that is innate in our souls, that right to life, to liberty and the ownership of property.
[91:55] Jay Davidson: And and what is the ultimate property that you own as an individual?
[92:06] Jay Davidson: That's why murder is a cardinal sin, because you take away a person's life.
[92:12] Jay Davidson: In a similar manner, taking away their money and their property through taxation and through debt because of spending, that's not proper.
[92:25] Jay Davidson: So all we're trying to do is enlighten people to the rights that they have, the enable rights from their creator, and live according to that.
[92:37] Jay Davidson: Whatever party they are in, if they start talking to you about taxing more and or spending more, which they'll go to send together, then stop them right there and say, no, it's not appropriate.
[92:49] Kim Monson: Well, and that's why it's so important to be informed on what is going on out there.
[92:56] Kim Monson: And we talk a lot about the federal government.
[92:58] Kim Monson: I think people are starting to wake up, though, to local government as well.
[93:04] Kim Monson: And we talk about taking property via taxation fees, but I'm learning more and more through rules and regulations.
[93:15] Kim Monson: If you could not do with your property, and we're to be good neighbors with each other, with our property, but if government has so many rules and regulations or easements or zoning regulations on your property that you can't do with your property what you want, you don't really own your property.
[93:34] Kim Monson: So we've got a big battle in that arena at the local level.
[93:39] Kim Monson: And what I'm seeing, Jay, is everyday people are paying attention and they're getting active on this.
[93:48] Kim Monson: And so we are in a really interesting time in America right now.
[93:53] Jay Davidson: I think we've kind of seen the whole concept of socialism run its course, I hope.
[94:02] Jay Davidson: The beautiful thing about what we're talking about is that you as an individual, we as individuals can stand up and tell our government, no, that's not appropriate.
[94:14] Jay Davidson: And I won't support you and I won't vote for you.
[94:17] Jay Davidson: We can have an impact at a grassroots level and make a difference.
[94:21] Jay Davidson: I mean, for the sake of our grandkids, if nothing else, I mean, the debt that the Federal Reserve in the Treasury Department have put on our shoulders for 17 years now is like$ 9 trillion of debt.
[94:36] Jay Davidson: And the debt service, the cost of the interest on those Treasury bonds that we issued is over a trillion dollars a year.
[94:48] Jay Davidson: It's like me going out and getting a$ 20 billion loan.
[94:58] Jay Davidson: Well, because it can kick the can down the road and people are not aware of the negative effects of government spending on our lives and most importantly, on our children's and grandchildren's lives.
[95:10] Kim Monson: Well, and so I think that we are in the third founding of America.
[95:15] Kim Monson: Obviously, the first founding was the Revolutionary War and Washington and our founders.
[95:22] Kim Monson: The second, I think, was the Civil War.
[95:24] Kim Monson: And now we're in this third founding of America.
[95:28] Kim Monson: But I think it's important that we look at history here.
[95:32] Kim Monson: The founders, I know that people like to say, oh, that was a whole bunch of old rich guys, and they were just doing that because they wanted to pad their pockets.
[95:41] Kim Monson: As they were signing, the 56 signers of the Declaration, as they were signing that, they could hear the cannons of the British just down the river.
[95:50] Kim Monson: And they knew when they were signing that that they were signing a death warrant.
[95:54] Kim Monson: And they were willing to do that because they wanted to pass on liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom, to the next generation.
[96:02] Kim Monson: And the idea that we are just gonna go down the road whistling along and pass on a big fat iou to the next generation is antithetical to the american idea.
[96:16] Kim Monson: It's irresponsible and it's not virtuous whatsoever Jay.
[96:24] Jay Davidson: That's why you're the head of the Constitution Day in Grand Lake.
[96:28] Jay Davidson: I mean, the fact that they do that, that's incredible.
[96:31] Kim Monson: Well, and I'm the emcee for that, although they have now asked me to speak a little bit, but Jonathan Turley will be the keynote.
[96:40] Kim Monson: But I love the fact that that little town, and how that happened, I'll just tell a quick story, is it was a dry summer 14 years ago, and they were going to have fireworks for the 4th of July.
[96:54] Kim Monson: But since it was dry, they thought it prudent to not do that.
[96:57] Kim Monson: So they have all these fireworks getting into September.
[97:01] Kim Monson: And they said, how about we set these off in celebration of the Constitution?
[97:06] Kim Monson: And then it ended up a whole week celebrating the Constitution.
[97:10] Kim Monson: So they like to say they are the premier Constitution Week in all of America.
[97:17] Jay Davidson: I mean, I just love that little sign as you come into the town about the Constitution.
[97:27] Kim Monson: And people can get more information about this by going to GrandLakeUSConstitutionWeek.
[97:33] Kim Monson: We'll be right back with Jay Davidson.
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[100:21] Kim Monson: And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
[100:26] Kim Monson: Check out the Center for American Values.
[100:28] Kim Monson: It's located in Pueblo on the beautiful river walk there.
[100:31] Kim Monson: And they've got a lot of things that's going to be happening this autumn.
[100:34] Kim Monson: They're going to have an event to remember 9-11.
[100:37] Kim Monson: And they are doing an educational program for secondary educators a little bit later in September.
[100:47] Kim Monson: I'm talking with the founder and CEO of First American State Bank, a great sponsor of the show.
[100:54] Kim Monson: And Jay, in the last segment, we talked about this demonizing of success.
[101:01] Kim Monson: And since it's Labor Day, we're pre-recording.
[101:04] Kim Monson: There's the demonizing of the employer as well.
[101:08] Kim Monson: And our young people, it's tough right now for a lot of young people out there in the workforce.
[101:15] Kim Monson: Because what they think they're making and then what they see in their paycheck is two different things.
[101:20] Kim Monson: I really think that we should get rid of payroll deduction, because if people got that gross amount and then paid their taxes out of that and realized how much they're paying in taxes, they might make different decisions at the ballot box.
[101:37] Kim Monson: But there's the demonizing of success, but the demonizing of employers.
[101:42] Kim Monson: And, again, I think the education system has done something to that, that that employer is greedy.
[101:47] Kim Monson: They're just trying to get as much out of you as they can.
[101:51] Kim Monson: And, gosh, I'm not getting that much in my paycheck.
[101:54] Kim Monson: And I had said to a couple of the young guys here at the studio, I get it.
[101:58] Kim Monson: With government-induced inflation and all that's going on, it's tough out there.
[102:03] Kim Monson: But just think, if you reduced your taxes by 10%that they're taking out of your paycheck, if we could get government spending down so you had 10% more,government had 10% less, thatwould make a difference.
[102:17] Kim Monson: So the greediest of all of the people out there, I would say, would be government.
[102:21] Kim Monson: Hopefully that's connecting a dot that makes sense.
[102:25] Jay Davidson: You look at, kind of calculate how many taxes you're paying.
[102:31] Jay Davidson: You're going to have to really dig into it because they're well hidden.
[102:34] Jay Davidson: But taxes and fees that you pay as an individual to the federal government, to the state government, regional, to the school district, to the city that you're in, to the metro district that you're in, whatever.
[102:47] Jay Davidson: And you'll find that probably you're paying a third, 33%, and in some cases it's up to 50% of your earningsin taxes.
[102:59] Jay Davidson: So you're working half a year or a third of a year for nothing because the government's taking that.
[103:05] Jay Davidson: And the whole concept that you're talking about here is that communism and socialism and fascism and even true democracy in the sense of what democracy really is, which is the rule of the majority over the minority, which is not the intention of our founders.
[103:27] Jay Davidson: The true intent of these concept is a central controlling entity that can take from you as the individual at will, and we have that now.
[103:39] Jay Davidson: We have the taxation and the fee generation.
[103:41] Jay Davidson: The government passes some law, the state or somebody, and guess what, we're paying more and more of our paycheck, of our earnings out in into the government.
[103:52] Jay Davidson: Who is most efficiently going to deploy the money that you earn?
[103:59] Jay Davidson: And you are, because you earned it, you worked for it.
[104:03] Jay Davidson: You know it was not easy to get, and we keep forgetting that fact that you know.
[104:10] Jay Davidson: You say: oh, the government can solve this problem.
[104:13] Jay Davidson: Well, first off, they can't, and they haven't proven to me that they can in anything.
[104:17] Jay Davidson: We're still in the war on poverty, in the war on drugs, and you know where are we here?
[104:27] Kim Monson: If, in fact, bureaucrats and politicians solve the problems that they present so that they can encourage you to give them more money, if they solve the problem, then their gravy train goes away.
[104:41] Kim Monson: And so they're not going to solve the problem.
[104:43] Kim Monson: Yeah, that's a really good point, Kim.
[104:47] Jay Davidson: You who earned, who worked, spent eight hours a day working at the job?
[104:53] Jay Davidson: Are you greedy because you get a paycheck?
[104:57] Jay Davidson: But the one who takes the money from you, that person's greedy.
[105:01] Jay Davidson: It could be the politician, the bureaucrat, the taxing authority, the school district, whatever.
[105:07] Jay Davidson: Talk about greed when you steal from other people to sustain your own livelihood.
[105:13] Jay Davidson: So, I mean, We need to turn this whole argument about success versus greed on its ear like you're doing.
[105:25] Kim Monson: And that is a big aha for so many of us because there's this kind of this altruistic message that's being sent that, oh, give to this nonprofit or give to this nonprofit.
[105:42] Kim Monson: instead of keeping most of the fruits of your labor.
[105:45] Kim Monson: And certainly, well, if in fact we would reduce government taking more and more money out of our pocket, then we can decide which nonprofits we want to give to.
[105:56] Kim Monson: The other thing about it is, and it took a while for me to understand this, when nonprofits are getting government money, that's not a true nonprofit.
[106:04] Kim Monson: We should not, that's not a proper rule of government.
[106:07] Kim Monson: and non- profits should stand ontheir own two feet for whatever they're doing.
[106:11] Kim Monson: So if they say they're going to help the homeless and we're getting more and more homeless, then I don't want to give to that non- profit.
[106:18] Kim Monson: I want togive to somebody that's really going to solve the problem.
[106:21] Kim Monson: And so we need to get all of that over into the free market and people making the free choice on what they want to do with their money and not judging them on what they want to do with their money.
[106:33] Jay Davidson: Use it as a learning tool on your own life, on how to be successful.
[106:39] Jay Davidson: I mean, appreciate the person that's, honestly, I know what they've gone through, and we all do, the work and the blood, sweat, and tears that they've expended to get to where they are.
[106:52] Jay Davidson: And enjoy it, because this is the beautiful culmination of the intent of our founders of our nation, who are absolutely unique in the history of mankind in assigning to the individual a direct link to the creator.
[107:09] Jay Davidson: You don't have to go through a king or a president or a monarch or a pope or anything.
[107:21] Jay Davidson: And, you know, rights, you always have to say rights and responsibility.
[107:25] Jay Davidson: Because rights don't exist unless you take the responsibility to hold on to those rights and exercise them.
[107:32] Jay Davidson: And America, unfortunately, has gotten complacent in this issue.
[107:36] Jay Davidson: And here we are in one of the most socialistic, government centric, all powerful government based systems in the world today.
[107:50] Jay Davidson: So that so hence our third founding of America.
[107:55] Kim Monson: One other thing the founders said in the Declaration, Jefferson said in the Declaration, that we're endowed by our Creator with these gifts of life, inalienable gifts of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
[108:09] Kim Monson: And in the Bible, when it says that we are created in the image of the Creator, I thought, and maybe it is two legs, two arms, I don't know.
[108:18] Kim Monson: But what I do know for sure is if we're created in the image of the Creator, then that means that we are creators.
[108:25] Kim Monson: And so to demonize creativity and innovation and hard work is totally antithetical to the biblical idea of being created in the image of our creator.
[108:37] Kim Monson: He created, we create, we get the fruits of our labor and our creativity, and we should, as you say, rejoice in that.
[108:45] Kim Monson: And instead of people being envious of somebody that has achieved success, the American idea would say, if they did it, I can do it.
[108:57] Kim Monson: So we've got about a couple of minutes to button all this up.
[109:01] Kim Monson: Jay, I always learn so much, and I know our listeners do as well.
[109:05] Kim Monson: And again, we pre- recorded for Labor Day,but your thoughts on capitalism and labor.
[109:11] Jay Davidson: The best thought I could bring to bear today is that, um, in america you don't have to work for your current employer.
[109:24] Jay Davidson: You can go somewhere else and if you don't like what he or she is doing, then go find another job.
[109:30] Jay Davidson: That's you're right, and you should do that.
[109:32] Jay Davidson: So this whole idea that management and ownership are crushing the backs of the laborers is nonsense.
[109:47] Jay Davidson: But there's opportunity, and there's also dignity in that effort, in finding that opportunity to do better.
[109:54] Jay Davidson: Management and leadership ownership has a whole different set of problems that they have to solve, that if you're just at the labor level, you don't get it until you start your own business and have to do all these various things.
[110:11] Jay Davidson: So I'd say let's you know the golden rule that was: doing to others as you would have them doing to you, or we call it mutual respect, or he was, without sin, cast the first known.
[110:23] Jay Davidson: You know, we need to get over this accusation mentality that exists in America today.
[110:29] Jay Davidson: I read comments on my writings, but I stopped doing it because the comments are so inane.
[110:39] Jay Davidson: They don't even, these guys don't even know who I am or what I am.
[110:42] Jay Davidson: If you want to attack me, go after my ideas.
[110:45] Jay Davidson: I'll be happy to abate any idea that I put out there.
[110:51] Jay Davidson: So I think we need to spend a little more time realizing that we're all Americans.
[110:57] Jay Davidson: We're all individuals and we're from our creator.
[111:04] Kim Monson: And again, I wish you and your family a great Labor Day.
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