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[01:11] SPEAKER_20: It is february 1st.
[01:13] SPEAKER_20: Producer joe, I cannot believe it.
[01:16] SPEAKER_20: I blinked and it's february.
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[01:42] SPEAKER_20: We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[01:51] SPEAKER_20: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[01:54] SPEAKER_20: And socialism is not about free stuff.
[01:57] SPEAKER_20: The free stuff is just the carrot to get people to vote for it.
[02:01] SPEAKER_20: And remember, my friends, the government cannot give something to someone without first taking it from someone else.
[02:09] SPEAKER_20: And so what's happening here is, A, taking from neighbors and other states to give to individuals in different states, but also this out-of-control debt, taking from our next generation as well.
[02:29] SPEAKER_20: And we really have a responsibility to pass something good on to the next generation.
[02:33] SPEAKER_20: And so it's never compassionate, and it could be taking people's rights, their property, their freedom, their livelihood, opportunity, or their lives.
[02:42] SPEAKER_20: And force obviously can be a weapon, but also it's policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, or the World Economic Forum's sustainability, climate change, environmentalism, globalist elites agenda.
[03:02] SPEAKER_20: And again, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[03:08] SPEAKER_20: My friends, there is so much going on in Colorado.
[03:12] SPEAKER_20: And I look at our state, the state that I moved to, that I loved, and we are in deep trouble.
[03:20] SPEAKER_20: And we look to elections.
[03:23] SPEAKER_20: We think that elections, the ballot box should be our answer.
[03:27] SPEAKER_20: It should be.
[03:28] SPEAKER_20: But beginning in 2013 with the 2013-2014 instituting the mail-out ballots, we started down this road of very difficult for us to speak at the ballot box.
[03:44] SPEAKER_20: And if this Ranked Choice Voting initiative goes through, and that is down at the title board as we speak, and it is the brainchild of Kent Thierry, who was the former CEO of DaVita Dialysis Company.
[04:02] SPEAKER_20: But what they've done, and they'll probably do, is hire one of these Republican operative consultants.
[04:09] SPEAKER_20: I was at a luncheon last week and heard him speak.
[04:13] SPEAKER_20: and ideally they would prefer that we're not out ahead of this, but we are getting out ahead of this.
[04:20] SPEAKER_20: And we had Hans von Spafosky with Heritage Foundation talking about ranked choice voting this, I think it was on Tuesday, and we're going to continue to hit that, but it's a very bad idea.
[04:36] SPEAKER_20: But what's happened in our state is Republican consultant operatives have been in bed with the radical activists that have taken over the democrat party, and we now have what we have in our state.
[04:47] SPEAKER_20: So we must speak truth into these issues, and that's why we do this show is to help you get your brain around these issues, so that you can talk with your friends and your family and your colleagues about what's going on, because we are headed in a very dangerous position right now.
[05:03] SPEAKER_20: So continuing on, our word of the day is essence.
[05:09] SPEAKER_20: And let me get to it.
[05:13] SPEAKER_20: It is a noun.
[05:14] SPEAKER_20: It's the intrinsic or indispensable quality or qualities that serve to characterize or identify something.
[05:21] SPEAKER_20: So that's number one.
[05:22] SPEAKER_20: Two, the inherent unchanging nature of a thing or class of things.
[05:26] SPEAKER_20: And number three is the most important part or aspect of something.
[05:30] SPEAKER_20: So the essence of the American idea is based on property rights.
[05:36] SPEAKER_20: And basically that means the property of the tangible, obviously, but also the intangible, your speech and your thoughts.
[05:45] SPEAKER_20: And all of those are under assault right now.
[05:50] SPEAKER_20: And so this foundational principle or this is the essence of freedom or liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom.
[05:57] SPEAKER_20: And so the word of the day is essence.
[05:59] SPEAKER_20: It's E-S-S-E-N-C-E.
[06:02] SPEAKER_20: That's E-S-S-E-N-C-E.
[06:05] SPEAKER_20: And your challenge is to use that in a sentence today.
[06:09] SPEAKER_20: And the quote of the day is from Marcus Aurelius.
[06:15] SPEAKER_20: And I did not put down exactly when he was born, so let me try to get to that.
[06:19] SPEAKER_20: And he hold on just a second here.
[06:21] SPEAKER_20: There's a lot going on over at my house right now.
[06:24] SPEAKER_20: So there we go and the quote is this: and let's see he was- oh gosh, they're not giving it to me.
[06:36] SPEAKER_20: Hold on just a second.
[06:37] SPEAKER_20: He was born a long time ago.
[06:39] SPEAKER_20: He was born in, uh let's see, he 121 and he died in 180..
[06:47] SPEAKER_20: He was a Roman emperor and a Stoic philosopher.
[06:49] SPEAKER_20: And he was a member of the Nerva Antonine dynasty, the last of the rulers later known as the five good emperors, and the last emperor of the Pax Romana, an age of relative peace, calm and stability for the Roman Empire.
[07:06] SPEAKER_20: And that lasted from 27 BC to 180 AD.
[07:09] SPEAKER_20: And he said this, when you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive, to breathe, to think, to enjoy, and to love.
[07:21] SPEAKER_20: And again, Marcus Aurelius said that many, many years ago.
[07:25] SPEAKER_20: Our bill of the day is House Bill 241025.
[07:30] SPEAKER_20: It's to implement fertility coverage for health plans.
[07:34] SPEAKER_20: And it goes on to say, this is the summary, Under current law, individual and small group health benefit plans are required to cover fertility diagnosis and treatment and fertility preservation services in the state 12 months after the Federal Department of Health and Human Services determines that coverage for fertility services does not require defrayal of costs by the state.
[08:02] SPEAKER_20: Okay, I didn't know the state was paying for that.
[08:04] SPEAKER_20: This bill removes the language relating to state defrayal of costs and requires the Division of Insurance to implement the coverage for plans issued or renewed on or after January 1, 2025.
[08:17] SPEAKER_20: So this is going to make things, the price of your insurance go up.
[08:23] SPEAKER_20: In addition, the bill prohibits a health benefit plan from imposing any exclusions, limitations, or other restrictions on coverage of any fertility services based on a covered individual's participation and fertility services provided by or to a third party.
[08:42] SPEAKER_20: Got to think about that.
[08:43] SPEAKER_20: I know normally in my brain I can think about these things and think about it down the road, but this one's a little complicated for me.
[08:51] SPEAKER_20: And then in addition it says it amends the definition of infertility to include a status as well as a disease or condition.
[09:00] SPEAKER_20: And I don't know.
[09:03] SPEAKER_20: This is just, I know they're playing long ball on this, and I can't totally get my brain around this.
[09:09] SPEAKER_20: But anyway, CUT, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, statement on this is, fertility coverage should be the prerogative of private health plans, not mandated by government.
[09:21] SPEAKER_20: Government-mandated procedures increase the cost for all insurance holders and is why health insurance is so expensive.
[09:28] SPEAKER_20: So once again, I we can look at the principle and the principle is is government should not be forcing this.
[09:35] SPEAKER_20: But joe, you look to me like you're kind of thinking about this as well.
[09:39] SPEAKER_20: I I can't quite get my brain around the the whole consequences on this.
[09:46] Dr. Carol Swain: I I don't know what do you think as a young guy I mean, generally speaking, it's hard for me to get health insurance And so speaking, if they're trying to run it up some more, that kind of scares me honestly.
[09:59] SPEAKER_20: Yeah, I know.
[10:01] SPEAKER_20: And so this is going to increase the costs.
[10:05] SPEAKER_20: Yesterday we talked about the increased costs of heating your home, cooling your home, all that with Xcel Energy.
[10:13] SPEAKER_20: Again, this is because of public policy.
[10:15] SPEAKER_20: And it's almost like death of the American dream to everyday individuals by a thousand cuts, with all of these little things.
[10:24] SPEAKER_20: And then, of course, there's just inflation as well, producer Joe.
[10:28] Dr. Carol Swain: Right.
[10:28] Dr. Carol Swain: I shouldn't be spending about five, six bucks for a loaf of bread.
[10:33] Dr. Carol Swain: That's ridiculous.
[10:36] Dr. Carol Swain: I know it is.
[10:36] SPEAKER_20: It's crazy.
[10:38] SPEAKER_20: So continuing on here, as we're looking at some of the different headlines, I'm going to this one.
[10:47] SPEAKER_20: This is on Complete Colorado, and this is from CBS News.
[10:51] SPEAKER_20: And again, this is highlighting or low lighting.
[10:54] SPEAKER_20: Xcel Energy asked for another rate hike for natural gas customers in Colorado.
[10:58] SPEAKER_20: So they're increasing the cost of natural gas, subsidizing all of this wind and solar.
[11:06] SPEAKER_20: And again, everyday people are just really getting hit with that.
[11:10] SPEAKER_20: So that is one of the headlines that we wanted to mention.
[11:13] SPEAKER_20: Additionally, as we're going to look at the southern border, this is one from Fox News.
[11:25] SPEAKER_20: It says Biden's comments on the border spark a stiff rebuke on Capitol Hill from some lawmakers.
[11:32] SPEAKER_20: And it goes on to say here, hold on, hang with me just a minute here.
[11:37] SPEAKER_20: We're seeing that, the radical activists on the democrat side- he's kind of indicating that perhaps he might want to- um, you know, do something down at the southern border and in essence, uh he, I think this is just all politics.
[11:53] SPEAKER_20: The fact that mayorkas is going through impeachment procedures on capitol hill.
[11:58] SPEAKER_20: People are starting to really pay attention to what is going on down at the southern border, And this is just this is overrunning our communities.
[12:10] SPEAKER_20: And unfortunately, we're not seeing Republicans here in the state really stand up against this.
[12:16] SPEAKER_20: We're seeing in different cities here that actually they're going out and they're buying hotels to house migrants, illegal immigrants, into our country.
[12:26] SPEAKER_20: And so once again, young people trying to figure out how to have an apartment, how to try to buy a home, and money's being taken out of their pockets to pay for government to go out and buy these different hotels to house illegal immigrants.
[12:42] SPEAKER_20: And then in addition, once government buys these particular properties, those properties are taken off the tax rolls, which means that there's no property taxes that are being paid because government owns it.
[12:58] SPEAKER_20: So the idea would be that government would lower their spending so that everyday people don't have to make that up.
[13:07] SPEAKER_20: But that's not the case either.
[13:09] SPEAKER_20: And so we've really got challenges going on here.
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[16:20] SPEAKER_20: We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[16:25] SPEAKER_20: Something's a good idea.
[16:26] SPEAKER_20: You should not have to force people to do it.
[16:28] SPEAKER_20: On the line with me is Paula Sarlls.
[16:30] SPEAKER_20: She is the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation, and she's also a Marine veteran.
[16:33] SPEAKER_20: Marine veteran.
[16:40] SPEAKER_20: and a Gold Star wife.
[16:41] SPEAKER_20: Paula Sarlls, welcome to the show.
[16:44] SPEAKER_20: Well, thank you for having me, Kim.
[16:46] SPEAKER_20: Absolutely.
[16:47] SPEAKER_20: And over the years, as we've gotten to know each other, first of all, I have deep regard and respect for you, Paula, for your service, for your husband's service to our country.
[16:59] SPEAKER_20: And so before we get into our subject, let's talk a little bit about the Marine Memorial.
[17:05] SPEAKER_20: It is located at 6th and Colfax here in Golden, and it is the official Marine Memorial.
[17:10] SPEAKER_20: I I think a lot of people think that the official memorial is back in D.
[17:14] SPEAKER_20: C.
[17:15] SPEAKER_20: with the depiction of the Battle of Iwo Jima and raising the flag on Mount Suribachi.
[17:22] SPEAKER_20: But actually, the official Marine memorial is here.
[17:26] SPEAKER_20: Right.
[17:28] Karen Levine: The Iwo Jima statue is an official memorial, but it's the war memorial, the Marine Corps war memorial.
[17:35] Karen Levine: And our memorial here in Colorado is the United States Marine Corps Memorial, and it's dedicated to all Marines for all time to honor Marines and remember all who served.
[17:53] Karen Levine: We take that dedication seriously, and we honor all who serve when we do services there.
[17:59] SPEAKER_20: Well, and how is it that it ended up here in Golden?
[18:03] SPEAKER_20: of, you know, there's 50 states.
[18:05] SPEAKER_20: How did we get the Marine Memorial here?
[18:08] Karen Levine: Well, it was a dream of a Marine, Bo Bowers, and when it was dedicated by the Commandant, he dedicated it as the United States Marine Corps Memorial.
[18:25] SPEAKER_20: So it was...
[18:26] SPEAKER_20: He claimed that.
[18:27] SPEAKER_20: Okay, and it was dedicated in 77, And it is time for a remodel.
[18:34] SPEAKER_20: And you're working diligently on this.
[18:37] SPEAKER_20: And the plans on this are absolutely beautiful.
[18:40] SPEAKER_20: And, Paula, as we are seeing throughout our country the tearing down of memorials and monuments, the work that you're doing, I think, has become even more important.
[18:55] Karen Levine: It's sad to see our history being destroyed, but that's how you destroy countries is destroying their history.
[19:02] Karen Levine: So we want to keep it alive and keep the stories of these men and women that serve alive.
[19:14] Karen Levine: And when we get the remodel done with the building, our focus is going to be the individual stories of the military members, just like you do with the interviews with them.
[19:29] Karen Levine: But we want to have a lot more, make it more interactive and have their artifacts and their histories there.
[19:41] SPEAKER_20: It is so important.
[19:43] SPEAKER_20: So one of the things, certainly a big funder would be a great thing.
[19:49] SPEAKER_20: And I know that you're looking for that.
[19:50] SPEAKER_20: And I believe that that will be delivered.
[19:52] SPEAKER_20: But everyday people, we need to also step up.
[19:57] SPEAKER_20: And one of the great ways to do that would be to buy a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service.
[20:03] Karen Levine: We could sell all the bricks at the memorial we could start today and break ground.
[20:13] SPEAKER_20: It is a lot.
[20:14] SPEAKER_20: Well, I have purchased two bricks, one from my father who passed on the beginning of December.
[20:20] SPEAKER_20: He was a veteran of the United States Air Force.
[20:24] SPEAKER_20: And Paula, of all the gifts that I had ever given my father, this I think was one of the most valuable.
[20:31] SPEAKER_20: And if you buy a brick, you get a beautiful certificate.
[20:35] SPEAKER_20: And it was really a special gift and he really loved it.
[20:39] SPEAKER_20: And then also, he had a cousin that was killed at Pearl Harbor whose remains were identified within the last few years.
[20:48] SPEAKER_20: And actually, the remains were brought home to his home in Missouri, and I bought a brick for him as well.
[20:54] SPEAKER_20: And there's just something comforting, knowing that those bricks will be there to memorialize their service as we go into the future.
[21:09] Karen Levine: And it's a great way to celebrate Valentine's Day is to buy your Valentine a brick.
[21:15] SPEAKER_20: Yeah, agreed.
[21:17] Karen Levine: If you haven't bought a brick yet, to do that.
[21:21] SPEAKER_20: Absolutely.
[21:22] SPEAKER_20: So, again, and people can do all this by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.
[21:26] SPEAKER_20: org.
[21:28] SPEAKER_20: That's usmcmemorialfoundation.
[21:29] SPEAKER_20: org.
[21:30] SPEAKER_20: Changing gears, you are working on an event here in February for women veterans.
[21:37] SPEAKER_20: So tell us about that.
[21:39] Karen Levine: Well, the state of Colorado has a new women veterans representative as part of the Department of Military and Veteran Affairs.
[21:50] Karen Levine: And one of the first people she came to was the Women Marines Association and asked us what she should do.
[21:57] Karen Levine: And we told her, have a conference to get the word out to women veterans of what help is available for them and to help them know they're not alone, and to have other women around for camaraderie.
[22:11] Karen Levine: So we are having the inaugural Women Veterans of Colorado conference next Saturday, February 10th, at the Doubletree Hotel in Aurora, and it's on ILOF and 225.
[22:27] Karen Levine: And it starts at 10 o'clockwith a professional military education for an hour or so.
[22:40] Karen Levine: And we'll have a guest speaker of our national WMA, Women Marines Association, president.
[22:50] Karen Levine: And our keynote speaker is Colonel Nicole Malachowski.
[22:59] Karen Levine: She has over 188 combat hours and 2, 300hours in six different aircraft, which is amazing.
[23:09] Karen Levine: But since she was in the military, she contracted Lyme's disease and is an advocate for that.
[23:22] Karen Levine: She was told she'd never walk again and she'd be bedridden the rest of her life.
[23:31] Karen Levine: And she's in the Women's Hall of Fame and just has a great story of all she's done.
[23:38] SPEAKER_20: Well, how can people get more information by tickets?
[23:42] SPEAKER_20: How can they do that?
[23:44] Karen Levine: They go to, on the web, to W- M-A-C-O-1,the number one.
[23:52] Karen Levine: organd just follow, scroll down a smidge and find the thing and click on it and you can get a ticket.
[24:01] Karen Levine: And we want supporters of women veterans as well as women veterans to attend.
[24:11] SPEAKER_20: orgis the website.
[24:14] SPEAKER_20: Did I get that right?
[24:15] SPEAKER_20: Yes, ma'am.
[24:17] SPEAKER_20: Paula Sarlls, thank you for your tireless work for our veterans and our military.
[24:22] SPEAKER_20: I so appreciate you.
[24:28] SPEAKER_20: She is the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation.
[24:30] SPEAKER_20: And to buy tickets is WMAC01.
[24:33] SPEAKER_20: org forthe Women's Veterans of Colorado.
[24:38] SPEAKER_20: Paula Sarlls, thank you.
[24:40] SPEAKER_20: Thank you, Kim.
[24:43] SPEAKER_20: And the Fed has been meeting, and Lorne Levy is going to give us an update.
[24:48] SPEAKER_20: You know Lorne Levy.
[24:49] SPEAKER_20: He is an expert in everything regarding mortgages.
[24:52] SPEAKER_20: He works with a lot of different companies, which I think is wonderful, because that means there's a lot of different choices.
[24:58] SPEAKER_20: Instead of just working with somebody that just works with one entity and just has their menu of products, He has all these products, and he can help you in 49 of the 50 states with a new mortgage, a second mortgage, a reverse mortgage.
[25:14] SPEAKER_20: Loren Levy, welcome to the show.
[25:17] SPEAKER_20: Hey, good morning, Kim.
[25:18] SPEAKER_20: So the Federal Reserve, I think you said they meet eight times a year, and they were just meeting this last Tuesday and Wednesday.
[25:25] SPEAKER_20: Everybody's on the edge of their seats.
[25:30] SPEAKER_20: What's going on?
[25:30] SPEAKER_20: So what should our listeners know?
[25:32] Lorne Levy: So, you know, everyone talks about what did the Fed do, and they think that that's what moves markets, but it's usually what they say afterwards that moves the markets.
[25:41] Lorne Levy: So they didn't do anything that was totally expected.
[25:44] Lorne Levy: They wouldn't raise rates or lower rates in January.
[25:47] Lorne Levy: There had been what I believe to be too high of hopes that they would lower rates in March, starting in March.
[25:54] Lorne Levy: And you and I had talked, Kim, where you had read that people were saying maybe six times they would lower rates this year.
[25:59] Lorne Levy: and I was more in the camp of maybe three times in the second half of the year.
[26:05] Lorne Levy: And the market was thinking March and in questions after Federal Reserve Chairman Powell said that he, you know, based on the numbers of what they looked at based on employment, that unemployment hasn't been going up, which is a good thing, and that, you know, we've had inflation change but still not down to the 2% they want,that he said he does not see them cutting in March.
[26:30] Lorne Levy: And that caused the stock market to kind of react negatively.
[26:34] Lorne Levy: If you saw last night, the Dow was down over 300 points, the Nasdaq was down 300 points, just because of exuberance of people thinking they were going to cut rates sooner.
[26:42] Lorne Levy: And, you know, it was kind of built into the market.
[26:47] Lorne Levy: It meant kind of a whole lot of nothing right now.
[26:49] Lorne Levy: The markets reacted negatively at first, but then kind of calmed down, and it turned out to be a whole lot of nothing for what I do and for the people I deal with, as far as mortgage rates so far.
[27:01] Lorne Levy: We'll see what the next few days hold as the market reacts.
[27:05] SPEAKER_20: Okay, so again, there's unknowns.
[27:07] SPEAKER_20: People may be thinking that interest rates are going to go down on mortgages into the future.
[27:12] SPEAKER_20: So just walk me through this.
[27:15] SPEAKER_20: If somebody has found a home, needs to move, family's growing, whatever, or if they're moving to another state, you can help them there as well.
[27:25] SPEAKER_20: If they've decided that they're a little frustrated with what's going on in Colorado, you can help them.
[27:30] SPEAKER_20: But they're concerned about interest rates.
[27:32] SPEAKER_20: So walk me through this.
[27:35] SPEAKER_20: What would be their expenses if, in fact, they went ahead and moved on a mortgage now and then interest rates go down?
[27:43] SPEAKER_20: What are the expenses that they would be looking at if they wanted to refinance?
[27:48] Lorne Levy: So typically a refinance costs anywhere between$ 2, 000 and$ 2,700 in fees.
[27:55] Lorne Levy: The reason I say somewhere between those two is when we do a refinance for people, we always run their loan through the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac approval process.
[28:04] Lorne Levy: And that tells us whether or not an appraisal is required.
[28:08] Lorne Levy: And whether or not that appraisal is required is what helps determine whether it's$ 2, 000 or$ 2,600 or$ 2,700.
[28:15] Lorne Levy: Now, for your listeners, I cover the appraisal.
[28:18] Lorne Levy: So both parts, either the first time when they buy or on the re- buy, second timethrough.
[28:23] Lorne Levy: So for your listeners, it's about$ 2, 000 every timethat they would do a refinance.
[28:28] Lorne Levy: Now, if someone uses my company to purchase the home, and then six months later or so, we have an opportunity to refinance, I will go above and beyond that and try to help cover whatever cost I can the second time around to try to make it even less painful and try They get less than$ 2, 000 whenever possible.
[28:46] Lorne Levy: So it's kind of a double whammy the second time around.
[28:49] Lorne Levy: I try to help people even more, as much as possible, as a repeat customer.
[28:52] SPEAKER_20: So with that, though, if in fact with a lower interest rate, people could in essence save a lot more than$ 1, 500,$ 2, 000a year.
[29:06] SPEAKER_20: But again, if people need to move on, are thinking about moving on a house, I think there's probably a great opportunity to do that.
[29:14] SPEAKER_20: And like you say, you really help my listeners out and you've helped my listeners all these years.
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[29:33] SPEAKER_20: And, I mean, it's just really what you've done over all these years as my sponsor has just been really great the way you have helped our listeners.
[29:43] SPEAKER_20: And that continues on even though interest rates are staying kind of steady right where they are.
[29:48] Lorne Levy: And, you know, we talk about this when me and Karen are in the studio.
[29:53] Lorne Levy: There's going to come a time soon, in my opinion, where inventory is going to increase.
[29:57] Lorne Levy: You know, a lot of people have been sitting wanting to move but don't want to give up their interest rate.
[30:04] Lorne Levy: but human nature will probably push some of them to list their house maybe in the spring.
[30:07] Lorne Levy: We'll have more activity, but there's plenty of buyers out there, and we may end up with multiple offer situations and things like that.
[30:14] Lorne Levy: Right now, it seems that's not necessarily the case yet, and there is opportunity for someone who's looking to move now where the competition maybe isn't as high of a level as it might be in just a few months.
[30:25] Lorne Levy: So, like I always say, if you're looking to move and you have an idea, you can find that perfect home, go, get it now and we will adjust interest rate whenever opportunity shows itself over the next 6, 12, 18 months.
[30:37] SPEAKER_20: Okay, what is the best way for people to reach you?
[30:40] Lorne Levy: Lorne Levy, the best is give us a call 303- 880- 8881 again,thatis, Lorne Levy.
[30:47] SPEAKER_20: 303- 880- 8881, laurenlevy,we will talk to you next week.
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[33:01] SPEAKER_20: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[33:05] SPEAKER_20: I am so honored, pleased to have on the line with me Dr.
[33:09] SPEAKER_20: Carol Swain.
[33:10] SPEAKER_20: And she has a remarkable story.
[33:12] SPEAKER_20: She was a high school dropout.
[33:13] SPEAKER_20: She was a teenage mother, and she became one of the most respected.
[33:16] SPEAKER_20: the most respected.
[33:20] SPEAKER_20: voices in academia.
[33:22] SPEAKER_20: She was with Vanderbilt University.
[33:24] SPEAKER_20: And so she was a university professor and public intellectual.
[33:29] SPEAKER_20: And her website is carolswayne.
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[33:35] SPEAKER_20: com.
[33:36] SPEAKER_20: Dr.
[33:37] SPEAKER_20: Swain, welcome to the show.
[33:41] Dave Walden: And one of the things I'd like to point out was that before I was at Vanderbilt, I was at Princeton University, and I, listen carefully, earned early tenure in the 1990s.
[33:56] Dave Walden: And Claudine Gay plagiarized the seminal work that I produced while on the faculty of Princeton University.
[34:04] SPEAKER_20: Well, and that's what we want to talk about.
[34:07] SPEAKER_20: But Dr.
[34:08] SPEAKER_20: Swain, you were the keynote for the Grand Lake U.
[34:12] SPEAKER_20: S.
[34:12] SPEAKER_20: Constitution Week.
[34:14] SPEAKER_20: back in September last year, and we got to meet in person.
[34:20] SPEAKER_20: But Grand Lake and what they do with Constitution Week is absolutely amazing.
[34:23] SPEAKER_20: And, you know, I know a number of listeners, you know, drove up to hear you speak, but it's a really unique and special event.
[34:32] SPEAKER_20: And it was so cool that you were the keynote on that.
[34:41] Dave Walden: That's the first time that I was with the Grand Marshal, one of the first cars, and then stayed over for the church service.
[34:54] Dave Walden: It was a great few days for me and the friend that I was traveling with.
[34:59] SPEAKER_20: Well, and yes, and it was very special.
[35:02] SPEAKER_20: And what they do at Grand Lake U.
[35:03] SPEAKER_20: S.
[35:04] SPEAKER_20: Constitution Week is so important.
[35:06] SPEAKER_20: But let's talk about this whole thing that's going on in academia.
[35:10] SPEAKER_20: First of all, when you were at Vanderbilt University, there were those that tried to cancel you.
[35:17] SPEAKER_20: And so you've been in this academia, you've been at the forefront of what's been happening all these years.
[35:22] SPEAKER_20: So talk a little bit about that.
[35:26] Dave Walden: I can tell you that I have been in and around academia for a significant part of my life.
[35:34] Dave Walden: I have been on the faculty teaching for 28 years.
[35:38] Dave Walden: That's Princeton and Vanderbilt combined.
[35:44] Dave Walden: So yes, I have seen changes in academia.
[35:47] Dave Walden: And I think that the lowering of standards, that that comes out of the connection between critical race theory, affirmative action, which initially was not as extreme as it became through diversity, equity, and inclusion.
[36:08] Dave Walden: And I know that's a mouthful, but I can tell you that I believe that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was the right thing to do, because discrimination was a serious problem in America, and that the passage of that legislation opened up doors for people like me and also for women.
[36:29] Dave Walden: But at the same time we had affirmative action being accompanied it in a way through executive order.
[36:40] Dave Walden: First, there was one in the 1960s that Kennedy signed.
[36:45] Dave Walden: And that one, again, that one was probably needed because discrimination was a serious problem.
[36:51] Dave Walden: But in 1965, I believe, That's around the time that Johnson signed his own executive order, and he gave the famous Howard University commencement speech where he said pretty much that it wasn't enough to remove discrimination, that we had to get equal results.
[37:18] Dave Walden: And these executive orders that instituted affirmative action were never passed by both houses of Congress.
[37:26] Dave Walden: And in many ways, they worked cancer to the intent of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
[37:34] Dave Walden: But they stayed within loosely the law until the DEI regime started pushing diversity, equity, and inclusion.
[37:44] Dave Walden: And that diversity is not the same diversity that we knew of in the 80s, when companies sent out recruiters to various neighborhoods or schools to recruit.
[37:55] Dave Walden: That diversity was about bringing in group people.
[37:59] Dave Walden: And they were never, the DEI people are not interested in integration where you bring in qualified persons, they become part of a team.
[38:08] Dave Walden: Their inclusion is about people coming in because they belong to a particular group and maintaining their identity and not necessarily becoming a positive part of the team.
[38:19] Dave Walden: And when they talk about equity, it's not the equal opportunity that we used to think of when we thought about the Civil Rights Act.
[38:27] Dave Walden: Equal opportunity meant that you had an equal chance to either fail or succeed.
[38:36] Dave Walden: And as a consequence, you look at the Biden administration, you look at Harvard University.
[38:45] Dave Walden: It's filled with diversity, but it looks like that many of their diversity hires are people that weren't up to snuff.
[38:55] SPEAKER_20: So, Dr.
[38:57] SPEAKER_20: Swain, though, as we talk about groups, and I'm thinking back in the, when I was in, my first career was in the investment business, and it was primarily a men's business.
[39:09] SPEAKER_20: There were a few women.
[39:12] SPEAKER_20: I was also involved with a professional women's group.
[39:15] SPEAKER_20: One would, you know, the narrative was, oh, we're all in this.
[39:19] SPEAKER_20: We want to try to, you know, make sure that all women succeed within that group.
[39:24] SPEAKER_20: But what I found is that there were those that you would think that would be mentors and want to have people in the group succeed, but actually they were threatened by that.
[39:39] SPEAKER_20: And they actually did more, I think, to keep women down than help women.
[39:41] SPEAKER_20: And so my point is, is the danger of being in a group, because once you're in a group, you lose your individual identity.
[39:54] SPEAKER_20: And there will be some that will be pushed forward for success in the group, but there will be others that will not.
[40:00] SPEAKER_20: Does that make sense to you?
[40:02] Dave Walden: Yeah, what has happened is that companies and institutions always have their tokens.
[40:08] Dave Walden: and the token is supposed to stay in line.
[40:12] Dave Walden: And if they push back, it's easy to find a replacement.
[40:16] Dave Walden: So I think that that has been a part of what has happened.
[40:21] Dave Walden: But I would argue that under the old system, the system that I came through, that if you were talented, it doesn't matter whether you were a woman or whether you were black or some other group, I think the cream rose to the top in most cases.
[40:37] Dave Walden: And for myself, I don't believe you can force a mentoring relationship.
[40:43] Dave Walden: So I know there's some companies, they set up these mentoring relationships.
[40:47] Dave Walden: Every mentor that I've had, it was just a naturally occurring situation where I connected with someone.
[41:04] Dave Walden: I think those are the best relationships.
[41:07] Dave Walden: But when you assign someone a mentor, that's a whole different animal.
[41:12] SPEAKER_20: You know, I totally agree with you.
[41:14] SPEAKER_20: And we've got a couple of minutes before we go to break.
[41:16] SPEAKER_20: Just share your remarkable story because up in Grand Lake, I mean, I think you were absolutely just a stunning woman.
[41:28] SPEAKER_20: But you didn't have confidence.
[41:31] SPEAKER_20: And I think it's important for young people to hear your story because you didn't have confidence and then someone stepped in and said, hey, you could be a success.
[41:45] SPEAKER_20: So share that story.
[41:47] SPEAKER_20: It's so important people hear that.
[41:48] Dave Walden: Well, most people, well, more people are finding out, and I'm working on an autobiography, is that I was one of 12 children born and raised in rural poverty in southwestern Virginia.
[42:01] Dave Walden: We all dropped out of school after completing the eighth grade.
[42:04] Dave Walden: I married at age 16, not because I was pregnant, but to get away from home.
[42:12] Dave Walden: And in my early 20s, people came into my life.
[42:17] Dave Walden: One was a medical doctor that told me I was intelligent, I was attractive, I could do more with my life.
[42:23] Dave Walden: And then I worked in a nursing home, and there was an African orderly who told me I ought to go to college.
[42:30] Dave Walden: And at some point along the way, I applied to a community college, did extremely well, started off as a work-study student and ended up being a full-time person working nights and weekends.
[42:44] Dave Walden: I graduated magna cum laude from a four-year college in Salem, Virginia, and never thought to become a university professor.
[42:57] Dave Walden: God placed people in my life, and they did not look like me.
[42:58] Dave Walden: They were mostly older white men that saw that I was talented and really encouraged me, and no one ever treated me like I was handicapped.
[43:07] Dave Walden: But I also never felt like I was a victim because of my race and my poverty.
[43:12] Dave Walden: I had a can-do attitude, but I struggled with shyness.
[43:22] Dave Walden: And that was something that I would overcome late in life, after I had a Christian conversion experience where God impressed on my life that he had given me a message bigger than me, and I should focus on the message.
[43:32] Dave Walden: And when you get your attention off yourself and focus on what you need to say, then the shyness goes away.
[43:40] SPEAKER_20: Oh, my gosh.
[43:41] SPEAKER_20: It's such an amazing story.
[43:42] SPEAKER_20: And people can get more information about you by going to your website.
[43:46] SPEAKER_20: It's carolmswayne.
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[43:50] SPEAKER_20: And when we come back, we're going to talk about Claudine Gay, president of Harvard University, that actually plagiarized your work, which is astounding.
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[47:17] SPEAKER_20: On the line with me is Dr.
[47:18] SPEAKER_20: Carol Swain.
[47:20] SPEAKER_20: Her website is Carol M.
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[47:28] SPEAKER_20: And her most recent book is The Adversity of Diversity, but she has many books that she has authored.
[47:33] SPEAKER_20: Dr.
[47:34] SPEAKER_20: Swain, this whole thing with Claudine Gay, president of Harvard.
[47:39] SPEAKER_20: Tell us about that.
[47:42] SPEAKER_20: It's remarkable that she used your work in in her writings.
[47:48] SPEAKER_20: So tell us about this.
[47:50] Dave Walden: Well, I mean it's remarkable, and then it isn't.
[47:53] Dave Walden: While I was at Princeton, doing my waning years there, I kept hearing about this brilliant black woman at Harvard who was a student, And it was almost like I had been a superstar.
[48:08] Dave Walden: I got signing bonuses and my work, you know, won three national prizes, was eventually cited by the Supreme Court.
[48:18] Dave Walden: But then I started becoming more questioning, not necessarily agreeing with elites about things like affirmative action.
[48:30] Dave Walden: And it was almost like, I'm being honest with you, Kim, that Claudine Gay was being thrown into my face like, you're yesterday and we have this new bright superstar.
[48:42] Dave Walden: And so I was never interested in Claudine Gay.
[48:45] Dave Walden: I don't recall her ever reaching out to me.
[48:51] Dave Walden: I mean, I didn't think about her at all.
[48:53] Dave Walden: So I was shocked in December when I got the phone call, December 10th, people started calling me.
[49:01] Dave Walden: And that was on a Sunday telling me that she had been accused of plagiarism and that my work had been plagiarized among her work.
[49:12] Dave Walden: And at first I didn't get so heated up because I wanted to know more about it.
[49:16] Dave Walden: I thought, well, maybe it was accidental.
[49:18] Dave Walden: I decided to read her work and I read her dissertation.
[49:21] Dave Walden: I read her early articles, and it was clear to me that she had plagiarized.
[49:28] Dave Walden: I felt like it was intentional, and I was sure that she would lose her job.
[49:37] Dave Walden: But I felt sad for me because I felt she had cheated me out of citations, as well as the places where she directly plagiarized, because my ideas were riddled throughout her early work.
[49:49] Dave Walden: When Harvard decided that they were going to stand behind her and give her 100%of their support, I did something that rarely happens.
[50:00] Dave Walden: I almost never get angry, but I tell you I was thinking that they would stand behind her and try to redefine Pleasureism.
[50:07] Dave Walden: They called it duplicative language, and then more instances of the duplicate language started to be revealed, and I don't know what the last count is for Claudine Gay's Pleasureism, but I can tell you that I coined the phrase serial plagiarist.
[50:30] Dave Walden: She's a serial plagiarist and I also was the first to call her Ms.
[50:36] Dave Walden: Gay because if you plagiarize your dissertation how can you be a doctor?
[50:42] Dave Walden: To be called a doctor, you have to have a dissertation with original ideas.
[50:49] Dave Walden: You defend it before committee, they have this little cheese and wine ceremony afterwards and they confer a doctorate on you.
[50:58] Dave Walden: You know, it is assumed that this is your work.
[51:01] Dave Walden: And then she got tenure at Stanford and was hired by Harvard on a record that in my day, during my time at the Ivy League, she would never have gotten tenure at a Tier 1 institution.
[51:21] SPEAKER_20: So what'd you do?
[51:24] Dave Walden: Well, I wrote op-ed pieces because Harvard, they just kept, it took me a while to calm down.
[51:38] Dave Walden: And when she resigned, she blamed racism.
[51:45] Dave Walden: I have a legal team now, and a letter was sent to Harvard, a demand letter asking them certain questions.
[52:05] Dave Walden: She certainly has infringed the copyright, my copyright, but she also has done more than that because even in the places where there was not direct plagiarism, she clearly framed her research around trying to counter my ideas.
[52:23] Dave Walden: So she didn't directly try to take credit for the conclusions in my prize-winning book.
[52:32] Dave Walden: Those conclusions threatened the progressive agenda, because I found and argued that political party was more important than the race of the representative and that as long as black Americans held the views they did, they would best be represented by Democrats.
[52:56] SPEAKER_20: By Democrats or by Republicans?
[53:01] Dave Walden: I had an indicator based on their views, the positions of their leaders, and the organizations that purport to represent Blacks.
[53:13] Dave Walden: The research concluded that there was a trade-off between descriptive representation, having people who look like you, and substantive representation, more people to vote for your agenda.
[53:28] Dave Walden: And at that time, there was a big push to draw a majority black legislative district to make them 65 percent black.
[53:33] Dave Walden: I argued that that was not a good strategy that would elect more Republicans.
[53:39] Dave Walden: And in the concluding chapter of my book, I talked about what would happen if the Republicans took over the Congress.
[53:48] Dave Walden: But I had a book in 1993 that laid out the consequences and it actually happened.
[53:54] Dave Walden: And my book was based on, you know, real research.
[54:00] Dave Walden: I traveled around the country with white and black members of Congress.
[54:04] Dave Walden: It was funded by the National Science Foundation.
[54:07] Dave Walden: And it was important because the trade-off between descriptive and substantive representation meant that whites could represent blacks, blacks could represent whites, men could represent women, women could represent men, heterosexuals could represent homosexuals, that your best representative might not be a member of your group.
[54:31] Dave Walden: And so she did her studies on trying to prove that descriptive representation, black people represent black people, how important that was, because I had questioned that.
[54:44] SPEAKER_20: So we've got just a couple of minutes left, Dr.
[54:49] SPEAKER_20: Swain.
[54:50] SPEAKER_20: She eventually, I mean, she resigned, but she's still making big bank as a professor at Harvard.
[54:58] Dave Walden: Well, I mean, I think she should be fired.
[55:01] Dave Walden: I don't think she's a doctor, and I think that her record that presented itself qualified her.
[55:08] Dave Walden: I mean, she should not be on the faculty of Harvard as long as they keep her, then she's going to be that Dylan Mulvaney.
[55:16] Dave Walden: Except that more and more cases of Harvard plagiarism is coming out.
[55:19] Dave Walden: They seem to have quite a few people who plagiarize.
[55:21] Dave Walden: And one of the things I want to say to you all, when I did my research back in the early 1990s, I was a Democrat, but that had nothing to do with my conclusions.
[55:32] Dave Walden: I had indicated, and based on how black people saw their views, the interest groups that they looked to, and also the voting record, the conclusion was that as long, I was very careful, as long as the blacks held the views they did, they'd be best represented by Democrats.
[55:54] Dave Walden: Consequently, it didn't make sense to draw those overwhelmingly black districts.
[55:59] Dave Walden: and when the Supreme Court cited me, it was because I argued that whites would support black candidates and when black candidates lost, it wasn't their race, it was because they were more liberal than the average white voter.
[56:12] Dave Walden: So the book was path-breaking and that's what she plagiarized.
[56:15] SPEAKER_20: And what's the name of that book, Dr.
[56:17] SPEAKER_20: Swain?
[56:18] Dave Walden: Black Faces, Black Interests, the Representation of African Americans in Congress And it was published in 1993 and updated in 95 in 2006 or republished in those years.
[56:32] Dave Walden: And so that's the back story of what she sold.
[56:42] Dave Walden: And coding gay, she pleasured from the best of the best.
[56:45] SPEAKER_20: That she did.
[56:47] SPEAKER_20: Dr.
[56:47] SPEAKER_20: Carol Swain, thank you so much for joining us.
[56:50] SPEAKER_20: Go to her website.
[56:51] SPEAKER_20: All of her books are there.
[56:52] SPEAKER_20: that's carol m swain.
[56:54] SPEAKER_20: Com.
[56:54] SPEAKER_20: Dr swain, thank you so much, thank you bye.
[56:58] SPEAKER_20: And our quote for the end of this show is from marcus aurelius.
[57:01] SPEAKER_20: He said this: the happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts.
[57:04] SPEAKER_20: So, my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, if honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and, like superman, stand for truth, justice and the american way.
[57:16] SPEAKER_20: My friends, you are not alone.
[57:17] SPEAKER_20: God bless you.
[57:18] SPEAKER_20: God bless america and stay tuned.
[57:20] SPEAKER_20: For our number two: We're talking about freedom.
[57:27] SPEAKER_20: We will fight for the right to live in freedom.
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[58:00] Show Announcer: It's the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
[58:08] SPEAKER_20: I find that it takes work to get your brain around these ideas, and it takes work to engage in these conversations.
[58:16] Show Announcer: The latest in politics and world affairs.
[58:19] SPEAKER_20: With what is happening down at the State House, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it's not.
[58:29] Show Announcer: Today's current opinions and ideas.
[58:32] SPEAKER_20: I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
[58:41] Show Announcer: Is it freedom or is it force?
[58:43] Show Announcer: Let's have a conversation.
[58:45] Show Announcer: Conversation.
[58:46] SPEAKER_20: Indeed, let's have a conversation.
[58:48] SPEAKER_20: Welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson show.
[58:50] SPEAKER_20: The text line is busy and I will try to get to most of these.
[58:56] SPEAKER_20: In the last segment of this show, I want to say thank you to Laramie energy and Karis oil and gas for their gold sponsorship of the show, and it becomes the show comes to you because of all of these great sponsors.
[59:06] SPEAKER_20: So jumping right in here.
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[59:45] SPEAKER_20: In studio with me is one of my buddies, and that is Dave Walden.
[59:50] SPEAKER_20: He is a fellow Liberty Toastmaster.
[59:53] SPEAKER_20: And, Dave, it's great to have you here.
[60:00] SPEAKER_20: My dad would say, and people say they like my dad-isms, he would say, time waits on no one.
[60:06] SPEAKER_20: You know, make sure that each day counts.
[60:09] SPEAKER_20: And that is for sure.
[60:10] Paula Sarlls: I try and remind my two grandkids, you know, when every second of every minute of every day goes by, that time is gone.
[60:24] Paula Sarlls: So what you choose to do with it is very important, although it may not seem like it at the time.
[60:30] SPEAKER_20: So we're going to say that that is a grandpa-ism that Dave Walden is giving to his kids.
[60:37] SPEAKER_20: Producer Joe, what do you think of that?
[60:39] SPEAKER_20: And Joe, thank you.
[60:40] SPEAKER_20: You are so dedicated to what we're doing here.
[60:42] SPEAKER_20: I so appreciate it.
[60:44] Dr. Carol Swain: Well, it's my pleasure, Kim.
[60:45] Dr. Carol Swain: I enjoy every day that I come in, and I think the grandpaism is perfect.
[60:50] Dr. Carol Swain: So how old are your grandchildren?
[60:57] Paula Sarlls: And, yeah, they're kind of interesting to watch them grow and develop.
[61:06] Paula Sarlls: and I only have my daughter because I married into her.
[61:14] Paula Sarlls: She was part of the package when I asked my second wife to marry me, and, of course, I raised her, helped raise her.
[61:24] Paula Sarlls: I can't explain exactly the difference, but it certainly is different.
[61:29] SPEAKER_20: Yeah, 16 and 10, great ages, and, yeah.
[61:34] SPEAKER_20: Yeah.
[61:34] SPEAKER_20: Our children, Dave, we have such a responsibility on what we're passing on to this next generation.
[61:45] Paula Sarlls: I mean, someone who made the quote, I don't know who it was, but our heritage, whatever it is, is only one generation away from being gone.
[61:57] SPEAKER_20: So that and we'll talk just a little bit more about that here in just a moment.
[62:02] SPEAKER_20: Let me get to, first of all, in the spirit of Toastmasters, the word of the day, and I chose essence.
[62:09] SPEAKER_20: It's E-S-S-E-N-C-E.
[62:11] SPEAKER_20: It's a noun.
[62:13] SPEAKER_20: Number one, the intrinsic or indispensable quality or qualities that serve to characterize or identify something.
[62:20] SPEAKER_20: Number two, the inherent, unchanging nature of a thing or class of things.
[62:24] SPEAKER_20: And number three, the most important part or aspect of something.
[62:27] SPEAKER_20: The essence of the American idea.
[62:30] SPEAKER_20: And I've been talking, one of our listeners texted me yesterday, we talked about capitalism.
[62:35] SPEAKER_20: And he said, actually, when we talk about these foundational principles, he said, I think you should use the word Americanism.
[62:42] SPEAKER_20: And I like that.
[62:45] SPEAKER_20: But I think we also need to define it.
[62:48] SPEAKER_20: And you wordsmith, I wordsmith all the time.
[62:52] SPEAKER_20: And we have potentially something that's going to be on the ballot, which is antithetical to the essence of the American idea.
[63:01] SPEAKER_20: How's that?
[63:03] Paula Sarlls: Well, you know, your theme often is freedom versus force.
[63:11] Paula Sarlls: Anytime someone takes a choice away from you, they are robbing you of the essence of freedom.
[63:18] Paula Sarlls: So you must, in my mind, I've learned, you must gravitate toward choice because choice is freedom.
[63:27] Paula Sarlls: Anybody who wants to impose something on you and take away that choice, you need to be cautiously on guard.
[63:35] SPEAKER_20: And choice, that word.
[63:38] SPEAKER_20: And I'm going to delve into something that I don't think should be politicized, and that is abortion.
[63:47] SPEAKER_20: And as I've really looked at this, there are those that look at abortion as this choice, that someone else is trying to force them to have a child that they don't want to have.
[64:03] SPEAKER_20: And that's kind of been a real aha for me on that, because many libertarians that I know, and I would say that I tend to being more of a libertarian.
[64:14] SPEAKER_20: But what I realize, and again, I don't want to be over on the political side, over more in the culture side.
[64:22] SPEAKER_20: But what abortion does, though, is it does take away the choice of the baby to be born and have a life.
[64:32] SPEAKER_20: And so I'd like to be over in that more in that arena versus, you know, the political force that's around that issue.
[64:40] SPEAKER_20: And I didn't think I'd bite this off, but what do you think about that, Dave?
[64:47] Paula Sarlls: It's one of those issues that is divisive, and it calls into question a number of other things.
[64:57] Paula Sarlls: I tend to come down on the side of choice to a point.
[65:04] Paula Sarlls: I don't know what that point should be, but I am 100%in favor of a woman's right to choose to a point.
[65:20] Paula Sarlls: I guess it makes me pro- abortionin today's vernacular.
[65:23] Paula Sarlls: But I opt for the actual rights of an adult human being versus the potential rights of another human being once they're born.
[65:38] Paula Sarlls: Now, I'm not arguing on behalf of abortion carte blanche.
[65:44] Paula Sarlls: I believe that science can tell us at what point a baby becomes viable, and should that woman have the choice to terminate that pregnancy at that point.
[65:57] SPEAKER_20: You know, and then we're going to get to Karen Levine here, and I also want to get to our bill of the day.
[66:04] SPEAKER_20: Maybe we'll do that in the next segment.
[66:05] SPEAKER_20: But I think one of the things where I think most people could agree is that we should not be using tax dollars for abortion.
[66:17] SPEAKER_20: And so I think not funding Planned Parenthood to fund abortions or to fund transgender sex changes, I think that most people could agree with that.
[66:30] SPEAKER_20: What do you think, Dave?
[66:32] Paula Sarlls: The idea of using someone's money to fund pay for abortion.
[66:50] Paula Sarlls: I, as you know, as a as an advocate of freedom, I am opposed to much of what the government spends money on, and my solution to that problem is is to not take it in the first place.
[67:04] SPEAKER_20: I have, I think we totally agree upon that.
[67:08] SPEAKER_20: So, dave walden, I'm so excited to have you in studio because this is going to be a great discussion- invited you in because of a speech that you gave regarding know your audience, which I think is very important for people to to talk about.
[67:24] SPEAKER_20: I get to do all this because of great sponsors.
[67:26] SPEAKER_20: Liberty toastmasters is a great partner of the show, and karen levine, hi guys, I can hardly.
[67:32] SPEAKER_20: I can't think of when she wasn't a sponsor.
[67:34] SPEAKER_20: She has been such a great sponsor of both the kim Monson show and and America's Veterans Stories.
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[67:41] SPEAKER_20: Karen Levine, welcome to the show.
[67:43] Alan (caller): Well, good morning, Kim and Dave.
[67:44] SPEAKER_20: Good morning.
[67:46] SPEAKER_20: And Lorne Levy was on earlier today because the Fed had concluded their meeting yesterday, and interest rates are staying probably just about where they are.
[67:56] SPEAKER_20: What are you seeing?
[67:58] SPEAKER_20: Two things.
[67:58] SPEAKER_20: In the metro real estate market, and then, as you know, I'm the president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and I see a continued assault on land or I'm drawing the blank.
[68:11] SPEAKER_20: Property rights.
[68:12] SPEAKER_20: Yeah, property rights.
[68:13] SPEAKER_20: So first of all, what are you seeing regarding the metro real estate market?
[68:18] Alan (caller): The year is off to a great start.
[68:20] Alan (caller): There's a lot of activity out in the marketplace.
[68:24] Alan (caller): We're not seeing as, I mean, we're seeing more homes come on the market this January than we did last January.
[68:31] Alan (caller): But we are absorbing them at a very fast rate, which is exciting.
[68:38] Alan (caller): Buyers are getting into homeownership.
[68:40] Alan (caller): There's opportunity out there.
[68:42] Alan (caller): And it's just January was a busy month, and I think that'll flow over into February.
[68:48] Alan (caller): But in the midst of all this, we are attacking property rights on all angles.
[68:53] Alan (caller): And it's really scary, Kim.
[68:57] Alan (caller): I know.
[68:58] SPEAKER_20: I've been looking at this.
[69:00] SPEAKER_20: And landlords, and you've helped individuals buy investment property.
[69:05] SPEAKER_20: Yes, ma'am.
[69:06] SPEAKER_20: And they have done that for both appreciation, but also for cash flow, maybe planning for retirement.
[69:13] SPEAKER_20: And I, as I'm looking at this legislation, there is a continued assault upon the individual landlord who is just trying to create wealth for themselves and their families.
[69:25] SPEAKER_20: Right.
[69:26] Alan (caller): And I think the conclusion every year we are required to take, it's called the annual commission update for our licensing.
[69:35] Alan (caller): And many of us in my company did that on Tuesday.
[69:39] Alan (caller): And we reviewed the attacks on property rights of last year and the requirements of landlords.
[69:48] Alan (caller): And each time one of these bills pass, it does not create more affordable housing.
[69:53] Alan (caller): It raises rents and it raises the cost of housing.
[69:56] Alan (caller): And until our elected officials get a handle on the fact that every time they seem to think they need another bill, they are acerbating the problem.
[70:09] Alan (caller): And House Bill 24- 1098is just another example.
[70:14] Alan (caller): It was heard Tuesday afternoon, I think, in committee.
[70:18] Alan (caller): and it does not allow a landlord to refuse to renew their lease, the lease of the tenant.
[70:25] Alan (caller): Well, we're in a position that we don't want to renew a lease on one of our properties because our niece wants to move into it, and I won't have that right.
[70:37] SPEAKER_20: It's beyond belief, isn't it?
[70:40] SPEAKER_20: It is.
[70:40] Alan (caller): It is.
[70:41] Alan (caller): And it makes you very, very sad about the rhetoric that's out there and why we think this is healthy for our communities.
[70:50] SPEAKER_20: And we talk about going down, testifying, reaching out to our legislators, and I have done that and I will continue to do that.
[71:02] SPEAKER_20: However, Karen, it seems like it's falling on deaf ears a lot of the time.
[71:08] Alan (caller): And that's a sad fact, is that although they are in office, for the purpose of hearing the people that they are to represent.
[71:17] Alan (caller): They've all gone in, not all.
[71:21] Alan (caller): Many of them have gone in with an agenda of what they're going to get accomplished for, as you, I think, refer to it, as an establishment.
[71:28] Alan (caller): And it's heartbreaking because one of my investor clients made the decision over the last two to three years to sell all their properties.
[71:40] Alan (caller): So those properties are no longer in the rental pool in our marketplace, and they were fair landlords.
[71:46] Alan (caller): They were building wealth, yes, but they were providing affordable housing.
[71:51] Alan (caller): And they're not alone.
[71:54] SPEAKER_20: So with this bill, House Bill 1098, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and again, I must name these people because they're doing amazing work.
[72:03] SPEAKER_20: They're all volunteers.
[72:04] SPEAKER_20: Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honaker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O'Loughlin, WendyWarner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, and Mary Jansen.
[72:14] SPEAKER_20: We recommended a no vote on this House Bill 1098 that you just described.
[72:20] SPEAKER_20: And this is what we had to say.
[72:21] SPEAKER_20: We said government has no business regulating how and why a landlord needs to evict a tenant.
[72:26] SPEAKER_20: This is a huge overreach of government.
[72:28] SPEAKER_20: And so we would really encourage people to join us.
[72:31] SPEAKER_20: The Colorado Union of Taxpayers, it's only$ 25, to help us do this volunteer work that we're doing.
[72:39] SPEAKER_20: So final thought on all of this, Karen.
[72:41] SPEAKER_20: And the thing about it is creativity and innovation still exist.
[72:46] SPEAKER_20: They're making it more difficult.
[72:49] SPEAKER_20: But you are in the business of protecting property rights and helping people build their hopes and dreams.
[72:55] SPEAKER_20: So your final thought, and how can people reach you?
[72:58] Alan (caller): Well, my final thought is you're tackling a lot of tough subjects in the first 10 minutes of this show.
[73:04] Alan (caller): But with that said, I would love to start a conversation with anyone who is thinking about selling a property in the front range or buying.
[73:13] Alan (caller): I am here as a resource to help you on that path to homeownership.
[73:19] Alan (caller): And my number is 303- 877- 7516.
[73:22] Alan (caller): andI would love to take your call.
[73:27] SPEAKER_20: And again, that's Karen Levine, 303- 877- 7516.
[73:30] SPEAKER_20: KarenLevine, we will talk to you next week.
[73:34] SPEAKER_20: That sounds lovely.
[73:36] SPEAKER_20: Have a great day.
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[73:59] SPEAKER_20: Rosie's doing it.
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[74:01] SPEAKER_19: Same with Lori.
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[74:33] Show Announcer: Thereare always opportunities in changing markets, and the Metro real estate market is no exception.
[74:40] Show Announcer: That is why you need to work with seasoned RE- MAX Alliance realtorKaren Levine.
[74:45] Show Announcer: when you buy your home, sell your home, consider the opportunities of a new build, or explore investment properties.
[74:51] Show Announcer: Rising interest rates are spurring creativity, innovation, and opportunity in the real estate and mortgage markets.
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[75:04] Show Announcer: Call Karen Levine today at 303- 877- 7516 foranswersto all your real estate questions.
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[75:48] SPEAKER_20: We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[75:53] SPEAKER_20: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
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[76:15] SPEAKER_20: In studio with me is Dave Walden.
[76:19] SPEAKER_20: He is one of my fellow Liberty Toastmasters.
[76:21] SPEAKER_20: A couple of things we didn't get to in that first hour, excuse me, first segment, was our quote of the day from Marcus Aurelius.
[76:28] SPEAKER_20: And he lived in like 121 to 180.
[76:30] SPEAKER_20: He said this: when you rise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive, to breathe, to think, to enjoy and to love.
[76:39] SPEAKER_20: Isn't that the truth?
[76:41] Paula Sarlls: And so many of us don't, don't even consider such things.
[76:47] Paula Sarlls: You know I could get into property, but that's not the subject of our discussion.
[76:51] Paula Sarlls: We may get there, but uh, property simply represents the time of your life.
[76:59] Paula Sarlls: You've spent acquiring it, trading for it, earning it, whatever.
[77:03] Paula Sarlls: When you have something that is, quote, yours because you have spent part of your life to acquire it, that property takes on that part of your life, and it should be defended.
[77:16] Paula Sarlls: You should be able to defend it with all the vigor of your entire life.
[77:25] SPEAKER_20: The journey that I've been on with Karen Levine when she was talking about this.
[77:28] SPEAKER_20: So the time that people have taken their time and they've invested it in property that they will rent to someone else.
[77:38] SPEAKER_20: And that should be an agreement, a contract between the two of them.
[77:42] SPEAKER_20: They agree that they will rent this property to someone for a period of time.
[77:47] SPEAKER_20: And when that time is up, the landlord can determine whether or not they want to enter into that contract again, as well as the renter.
[77:56] SPEAKER_20: But here down at the Colorado State Legislature, they are saying through this House Bill 1098 that the person who has taken their time and invested it in this property, that the government is going to say what can happen when that contract comes up for renewal.
[78:16] SPEAKER_20: It's unbelievable.
[78:17] Paula Sarlls: What it amounts to is stealing the time of your life.
[78:22] Paula Sarlls: And I tell my granddaughters, I say, look, when you earn money, what that money in your hand represents is someone's time.
[78:41] Paula Sarlls: And when you have it in your hand and it's recognized by everyone else, you may buy their time with it.
[78:48] Paula Sarlls: And that's what's so beautiful about money.
[78:56] Paula Sarlls: The most important thing for your life is your happiness.
[79:02] Paula Sarlls: But the virtues of character that earn it certainly buy it.
[79:10] SPEAKER_20: which I think areso important.
[79:17] SPEAKER_20: Next thing, and Dave and actually our listeners had some things to say about this as well.
[79:20] SPEAKER_20: And that is, we're doing a bill of the day, this is House Bill 241025, to implement fertility coverage for health plans.
[79:29] SPEAKER_20: And it says: under current law, individual and small group health benefit plans are required to cover fertility diagnosis and treatment and fertility preservation services in the state 12 months after the Federal Department of Health and Human Services determines that coverage for fertility services does not require defrayal of costs by the state.
[79:51] SPEAKER_20: And so the bill removes that language relating to state defrayal of costs and requires- there's that force word requires the Division of Insurance to implement the coverage for plans issued or renewed on or after January 1, 2025.
[80:04] SPEAKER_20: One of our listeners said this concerning the bill in the colorado's legislature dealing with this: think about this: maybe a guy who thinks he's a woman decides he wants to have a uterus and ovaries implanted.
[80:17] SPEAKER_20: He wants the health colorado obamacare scheme to pay for it.
[80:22] SPEAKER_20: We all remember when a heart lung transplant was just a dream and then dr christian bernard pulled it off.
[80:27] SPEAKER_20: So I say that we're playing long ball.
[80:30] SPEAKER_20: I think- and this is from richard, the limo driver- I was having a little difficulty trying to think about the long- term consequences of what they'retrying to accomplish.
[80:39] SPEAKER_20: But they are taking the time of people because this is going to increase the cost of insurance.
[80:46] SPEAKER_20: And people should have a choice with their insurance carriers.
[80:51] SPEAKER_20: If they want to have insurance with a carrier that's going to cover all kinds of things, which is going to be more expensive, they should have the choice to do that.
[81:01] SPEAKER_20: But we've got the force word in there, and that is require.
[81:04] SPEAKER_20: That's it.
[81:04] SPEAKER_20: It always comes down to force.
[81:07] Paula Sarlls: Whenever you are forced, you know, I'm on Social Security, and I'm frequently asked, well, if you don't approve of it, why are you enrolled in it?
[81:20] Paula Sarlls: And I'm enrolled in it because I had to be.
[81:25] Paula Sarlls: And then, of course, it will be said, well, that was for your own good.
[81:29] Paula Sarlls: And I say, no, that was for the good of whoever decided to force me.
[81:39] Paula Sarlls: And if you take away my choice with force, which is the only thing that can take it away, I am no longer free.
[81:47] Paula Sarlls: And to that extent, I am victimized by that force.
[81:56] SPEAKER_20: And in a way, I feel like this almost pits people against each other, one generation against another generation.
[82:06] SPEAKER_20: When Social Security was instituted back in the 30s, the retirement age was 65.
[82:10] SPEAKER_20: But I went back and took a look at the rates of how long people would live.
[82:18] SPEAKER_20: Most people didn't live past 65.
[82:21] SPEAKER_20: So what a scheme it was.
[82:23] SPEAKER_20: We fast forward now, and people are living much longer.
[82:28] SPEAKER_20: And it used to be that there were a number of workers that were supporting a Social Security recipient.
[82:36] SPEAKER_20: Now it's almost like a three- to- one ratio.
[82:41] SPEAKER_20: So theseyoungpeople are forcibly having money taken out of their paychecks to pay for this.
[82:47] SPEAKER_20: It's kind of a Ponzi scheme, but people look at it and they go, well, the money was taken from me.
[82:53] SPEAKER_20: It is a Ponzi scheme.
[82:55] Paula Sarlls: When I get my Social Security check and I deposit it or have it deposited, I think of it this way.
[83:05] Paula Sarlls: At the same time I'm getting it, my daughter is having money taken from her paycheck for it.
[83:11] Paula Sarlls: So I look at it like, Ah, I'm using it to build my daughter's inheritance because she's my daughter's inheritance because she's
[83:20] Paula Sarlls: having it taken from her, just like I had it taken from me.
[83:29] Paula Sarlls: You mentioned that it used to be a large number of contributors, making it possible for the relatively few numbers of recipients to have their checks.
[83:40] Paula Sarlls: As Margaret Thatcher said, eventually you run out of other people's money.
[83:48] Paula Sarlls: And of course, Social Security is socialism.
[83:51] Paula Sarlls: And the fact that it's down to, what, three to one, two to one now, that's just an indication of the fact that we're getting closer to running out of other people's money.
[84:05] Paula Sarlls: Well, yeah, well, we know what human nature will do when that happens.
[84:09] SPEAKER_20: Talking with Dave Walden, and we've gone through a segment and haven't even talked about the thing that I said that we were going to talk about.
[84:19] SPEAKER_20: So we'll do that when we come back.
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[86:58] SPEAKER_20: In studio with me is my fellow Liberty Toastmaster, Dave Walden.
[87:03] SPEAKER_20: And Dave, I wanted you to share a speech that you gave during Table Topics at our last Liberty Toastmasters meeting regarding know your audience.
[87:13] SPEAKER_20: Because I think there's some real nuggets of wisdom there.
[87:17] SPEAKER_20: So share that with us.
[87:18] SPEAKER_20: All right, Tim, Kim.
[87:20] Paula Sarlls: One of my interests has always been the making of the atomic bomb.
[87:29] Paula Sarlls: And one of the aspects of it was a story that I read and confirmed about how the Manhattan Project got off the ground.
[87:40] Paula Sarlls: And before I begin, let me just say, my brother- in-lawis a fine salesman, superb salesman.
[87:47] Paula Sarlls: And two of the aspects that make him a great salesman, the first one, of course, is he believed in what he was selling.
[87:55] Paula Sarlls: So his sincerity would come across without any hint whatsoever of trying to sell a product.
[88:04] Paula Sarlls: But the second thing is, is he always knew his audience when he was trying to make a sale.
[88:10] Paula Sarlls: So I'm going to recount a story that I gave as a speech at Toastmasters, in which the person making the sale successfully did so, and he did so because he knew his audience.
[88:23] Paula Sarlls: Now, it's October 11, 1939, and our hero, our salesman, is a man named Alexander Sachs, S- A-C-H-S,and he's waiting outside the office of the president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
[88:39] Paula Sarlls: He had been given an hour of his time, Roosevelt's time, and he was an old friend of Roosevelt.
[88:45] Paula Sarlls: He had served in his administration, his previous administration, and he was an economics advisor of some sort.
[88:53] Paula Sarlls: And he had returned to private enterprise, but I won't go into how he was the recipient to bring this news to Roosevelt, but he was sitting outside Roosevelt's office with his briefcase at his feet wondering how on earth he was going to convince his old friend roosevelt of the importance of what he had for him.
[89:14] Paula Sarlls: He knew that roosevelt would have no interest in it.
[89:18] Paula Sarlls: He knew that he would understand very little about it, but nonetheless he sax had believed that this was very important potentially, and he needed to hear it.
[89:31] Paula Sarlls: So these were the thoughts going through his mind when the door opened and was greeted with.
[89:39] Paula Sarlls: So then he walks to the Oval Office with his briefcase.
[89:42] Paula Sarlls: Roosevelt says, Alex, my friend, how have you been?
[89:49] Paula Sarlls: And it is said they chatted and had a lot of small talk and even maybe shared a brandy.
[89:56] Paula Sarlls: And finally, Roosevelt said, well, Alex, what on earth is so important that you need an hour of my time?
[90:05] Paula Sarlls: Certainly you understand how busy I must be.
[90:10] Paula Sarlls: You see, it was October 11th, 1939, a little over 30 days after Hitler and Nazi Germany had invaded Poland, setting off World War II.
[90:25] Paula Sarlls: So yes, the President must have been terribly busy.
[90:28] Paula Sarlls: Anyway, Sachs' first response was, well, Mr.
[90:35] Paula Sarlls: See, he knew that Roosevelt loved a good story.
[90:38] Paula Sarlls: And Roosevelt said, oh, Alex, you know I love a good story.
[90:45] Paula Sarlls: President, it seems one morning Napoleon was sitting at his desk opening his mail.
[90:52] Paula Sarlls: That's something he did at that time because he had just gotten$ 15 million in gold from President Jefferson for the sale of Louisiana to the Americans, the Louisiana Purchase as we know it.
[91:09] Paula Sarlls: And he was trying to determine how he would use this to restore France to its grandeur that it no longer had enjoyed.
[91:16] Paula Sarlls: And as he opened the letter, he noted that this letter was from America.
[91:21] Paula Sarlls: And the letter began, Your Excellency, I have it within my power the means to move your entire army, all of its livestock, munitions, gun carriages, personnel, across any body of water, large or small, without regard for wind or sail.
[91:47] Paula Sarlls: It is said that upon reading this, Napoleon cast the letter aside with the remark, These Americans, I need soldiers, not dreamers.
[92:01] Paula Sarlls: He took little note of the signature on the letter, which was Robert Fulton, the inventor of the steamship, steamboat.
[92:09] Paula Sarlls: So at that point, Roosevelt says, Alex, you mean to tell me you're here to tell me something that maybe is as significant as Napoleon turning down Fulton's steamboat?
[92:28] Paula Sarlls: President, if what I have for you proves to be possible, it will mean changes in medicine that we can only imagine, advantages in treating all manner of diseases and conditions that we can just watch people suffer and die from today.
[92:47] Paula Sarlls: It also may mean virtually inexpensive, limitless power for everyone, not just in America, but perhaps the world.
[92:58] Paula Sarlls: President, it will mean a new means whereby someone like Nazi Germany can blow up their neighbor only with far greater devastation than ever imagined.
[93:11] Paula Sarlls: And Roosevelt said, well, that's, what have you got for me, Alex?
[93:17] Paula Sarlls: And it's only then that he opened up his briefcase and read the letter, or his summary of it, from Albert Einstein on the possibilities of nuclear fission.
[93:28] Paula Sarlls: And that is how the start of the Manhattan Project got off the ground.
[93:33] Paula Sarlls: Roosevelt immediately empaneled and empowered people to look into this, and of course the Manhattan Project was created, and the rest, of course, is history.
[93:43] Paula Sarlls: What sax understood is that his old friend first loved a good story.
[93:51] Paula Sarlls: The second thing he understood is his old friend would be moved by his values, what this potential would mean if it was possible to do both the good and, of course, the bad, which was he he was embroiled in for the moment with in 1939.
[94:12] Paula Sarlls: So he knew his audience and he made the sale.
[94:16] Paula Sarlls: And so I always say that the second most important thing besides in believing what you're selling is to know the audience you're selling it to.
[94:25] SPEAKER_20: I think it's absolutely a fascinating story.
[94:29] SPEAKER_20: And at this point I I must mention liberty toastmasters.
[94:34] SPEAKER_20: I've been a member, I think, for over 10 years.
[94:38] SPEAKER_20: I'm not really getting any attendance awards right now because the things, things are busy, but every time.
[94:46] SPEAKER_20: Uh so, the liberty toastmasters denver meets the first and third saturdays of each month at the independence institute and liberty toastmasters north meets the second and fourth saturdays up in longmont.
[94:58] SPEAKER_20: People can get more information by going to, uh well, just go to to Toastmasters International and put in Liberty Toastmasters.
[95:06] SPEAKER_20: They should be able to get the information.
[95:09] SPEAKER_20: But Dave, Liberty Toastmasters has helped me significantly.
[95:16] SPEAKER_20: And I've said to Brad Beck that me being on the radio, he is a co- founderof Liberty Toastmasters, I'd lost my confidence.
[95:24] SPEAKER_20: I had crashed and burned in front of probably about, I don't know, 7, 000,8, 000people.
[95:31] SPEAKER_20: And I lost my confidence and the first time I actually sat behind the microphone, I could hardly get my name out.
[95:41] SPEAKER_20: And uh, and so the the story is is a finding your voice.
[95:47] SPEAKER_20: People think that liberty, toastmasters or toastmasters, is about speaking, and it is.
[95:54] SPEAKER_20: But it's even more than that.
[95:57] SPEAKER_20: First of all, learning from each other.
[95:59] SPEAKER_20: We may not agree on everything, but having a conversation, thinking about these things, kicking the tires on ideas, uh is is it's amazing, and within two hours I can learn so much.
[96:11] SPEAKER_20: So, for example, you gave this speech within table topics, which is two, two to three minutes, to just bite off on a an issue, and I, I table topics and I'll go through this.
[96:22] SPEAKER_20: The speaking component is important, but table topics, being able.
[96:27] SPEAKER_20: If you're going to testify in front of a school board, a city council, down at the state house, many times you may only have two to three minutes and people think: what can I say in two or three minutes?
[96:39] SPEAKER_20: But as I've said to brad gosh in a country western song, which is about two to three minutes, you can get married, divorced, uh, have kids, the dog might die.
[96:49] SPEAKER_20: I mean there's all kinds of things you know, and and so being able to get your thoughts around something within two to three minutes is invaluable.
[96:55] SPEAKER_20: But the component that I think has been the most valuable to me is the evaluation component.
[97:00] SPEAKER_20: Because I have used that, I use that almost every day.
[97:05] SPEAKER_20: And we use what's called the sandwich method, something positive, kind of the meat of the suggestion, and then finish up with something positive.
[97:11] SPEAKER_20: And it has enabled me many times to take difficult situations and kind of diffuse the situation.
[97:21] SPEAKER_20: And I think people don't really realize how important that evaluation component is.
[97:26] Paula Sarlls: Yeah, if I was king or had the power to do it, I would make the ability to get in front of a group and convey a message with confidence and guidelines, but minimal guidelines, part of your high school diploma.
[97:53] Paula Sarlls: So you would graduate from high school learning, reading, writing, arithmetic, and to some degree to get in front of a group and make your case for whatever it is your case is about and do it with calm confidence to whatever extent it would be possible.
[98:09] Paula Sarlls: Obviously, each of us would have a different degree of ability in that regard.
[98:14] Paula Sarlls: But I've been going to Toastmasters since the 2010 election.
[98:20] Paula Sarlls: One time in my life I volunteered to help a candidate.
[98:29] Paula Sarlls: And he ran against Polis when he was running in CD2 for reelection.
[98:36] Paula Sarlls: And I would have to at times stand in for him when he couldn't be two places at once, so I would have to represent him.
[98:47] Paula Sarlls: And I got rave reviews, but I felt I did it badly, not as well as I could have done it, because I was nervous.
[98:57] Paula Sarlls: So I joined Toastmasters when I met Brad, who was helping Don Beezley at that time.
[99:06] Paula Sarlls: And Brad invited me to join Liberty Toastmasters, and I did, and I've been going ever since, and I feel like I can get in front of any group, large or small, without regard for wind or sail, and and give a speech of something that I feel strongly about or passionately about, and whether the audience is hostile or sympathetic, to do so with confidence and and convey my message and perhaps make to sale.
[99:35] SPEAKER_20: Okay, one thing, and we do need to go to break, but that reminds me, you had heard as we were going through the bill of the day, no, it was actually a local issue regarding Second Amendment rights.
[99:50] SPEAKER_20: And you went to that municipality and spoke on behalf of our Second Amendment rights, which is everyday people being able to protect ourselves.
[99:59] SPEAKER_20: ourselves.
[100:00] SPEAKER_20: against bad actors.
[100:02] SPEAKER_20: And I remember you saying, just share what you did.
[100:05] SPEAKER_20: I mean, you addressed those on the dais.
[100:08] SPEAKER_20: And this is so frustrating.
[100:10] SPEAKER_20: You go to these, you know, the electeds are on these dais.
[100:14] SPEAKER_20: They're above us.
[100:15] SPEAKER_20: It's almost like we're minions to go speak.
[100:17] SPEAKER_20: But you addressed them, and then you did something rather remarkable.
[100:27] SPEAKER_20: You addressed those on the dais regarding this, and then you turned your back on them, and you addressed everyone in the council.
[100:36] Paula Sarlls: Well, it was, when you go to one of these city council meetings, you know, the dais is up above you, in front of you.
[100:46] Paula Sarlls: And, of course, there's usually a large audience.
[100:50] Paula Sarlls: I only go when there's an issue of significance there.
[100:54] Paula Sarlls: And I addressed, you only get three minutes.
[100:57] Paula Sarlls: And I addressed the council members with some generality, introduced myself, where I lived, how long I'd lived there, and so forth, and began.
[101:07] Paula Sarlls: But about a minute into it, I then turned my back and addressed the group in attendance, my fellow citizens, because they're the ones that I wanted to appeal to.
[101:20] Paula Sarlls: And and of course the council members didn't know what to do in response.
[101:25] Paula Sarlls: But before I finished I turned around and and said goodbye to them and thanked them for the audience.
[101:32] Paula Sarlls: But I can only imagine, I mean the people in the audience were just hilarious and greeted me afterwards with that.
[101:39] Paula Sarlls: But I don't know what effect I had because, like you say kim, you volunteer to do this stuff and it seems as though you're not listened to.
[101:48] SPEAKER_20: Well, and it's important that you knew your audience there.
[101:52] SPEAKER_20: Dave Walden's in studio, and we're going to go to break.
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[104:48] SPEAKER_20: Be sure and check out the Center for American Values.
[104:51] SPEAKER_20: Their website is AmericanValuesCenter.
[104:53] SPEAKER_20: org.
[104:54] SPEAKER_20: They're doing amazing work in instilling these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism.
[105:00] SPEAKER_20: And also check out the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising money for the Marine Memorial.
[105:05] SPEAKER_20: Let's get to Alan in Lakewood.
[105:06] SPEAKER_20: I was just thinking about you yesterday.
[105:09] SPEAKER_20: Alan, what's on your radar?
[105:14] Producer Joe: It's the finest example of what you and your community are about and capable of doing.
[105:22] Producer Joe: You were scratching your head this morning about these bills and the way that we can present logical arguments and facts, and they go nowhere.
[105:36] Producer Joe: And I found that looking at what is happening to us, the United States of America and people like us, snaps into really crystal clear focus for me when you look at it from the standpoint of the Cloward-Piven strategy and the World Economic Forum's agenda and goals.
[106:01] Producer Joe: back in the 92, 93, 94 time frame, things started to snap into focus for me and change my point of view with the Ruby Ridge, Waco, and Oklahoma City.
[106:22] Producer Joe: That evil and evil people are loose in our world.
[106:27] Producer Joe: and it's very difficult, perhaps impossible, to separate the issues from the people.
[106:34] Producer Joe: If we focus on the issues, we have the means to expose the people and probably not convert most of them who are on the path that they have chosen for their life.
[106:49] Producer Joe: And it's a religious level of expression and commitment.
[106:58] Producer Joe: As you know, I'm a property owner, and I'm looking at how I keep good tenants, and 60%or more of the people that have rented from me have gone on to buy their own homes.
[107:10] Producer Joe: I'm very, very proud of that because I've had a hand in enabling that.
[107:16] Producer Joe: I'll no longer be able to enable it, and it's the reason that I have no choice for my sanity, it seems, than to leave Colorado.
[107:28] Producer Joe: And that's very, very sad because my native California, which is gone now, provided us with one of the most beautiful spirits and lovely environments to live in.
[107:44] Producer Joe: that has been destroyed by these same kinds of people and their agenda.
[107:50] Producer Joe: So, and anyway, the documented original Tuskegee Airman and Airmen that I know and have known, Carol Swain is that kind of a person, a person that, along with you, makes me very, very, very proud to be an American.
[108:11] Producer Joe: And the hyphenation, if any, comes after that.
[108:13] Producer Joe: So that's my soapbox for this morning, young lady, and God bless and thank you.
[108:21] SPEAKER_20: Alan and Lakewood, thank you so much.
[108:22] SPEAKER_20: Really appreciate it.
[108:24] SPEAKER_20: And this breaks my heart, and that's why I get up every day is to reclaim this beautiful state that I love.
[108:32] SPEAKER_20: So, Alan and Lakewood, thank you.
[108:34] SPEAKER_20: Bill and North Glen, welcome to the show.
[108:35] Franktown Firearms commercial: Hey, you guys were talking about Social Security earlier.
[108:40] Franktown Firearms commercial: The big problem with Social Security is beginning in 1973, you literally start killing the people that should have been paying into the system, so that your ratio is to be 13 to 1 that it should be or more.
[108:56] Franktown Firearms commercial: If you're going to have the system, you've got to have people paying into it.
[109:00] Franktown Firearms commercial: The best way is to get the government out of the retirement business, and everybody can take care of themselves.
[109:06] Franktown Firearms commercial: But we've regulated it so much that a lot of these big corporations cannot afford to give out the pensions that they used to give out.
[109:15] Franktown Firearms commercial: We've kept raising the amount that the employer is mandated to pay in, and the employers just throw up their hands and say, well, you'll have to go on Social Security.
[109:26] Franktown Firearms commercial: And remember that Social Security was only supposed to be a supplement.
[109:30] Franktown Firearms commercial: It was never supposed to be your only means to survive in old age.
[109:35] SPEAKER_20: Bill, you bring up some really important points.
[109:38] SPEAKER_20: And what you're referring to in 1973 is Roe versus Wade.
[109:43] SPEAKER_20: And so just think about this.
[109:45] SPEAKER_20: I mean, this is very pragmatic.
[109:47] SPEAKER_20: But because of Roe v.
[109:50] SPEAKER_20: Wade, you know, estimates are that since it had been put in place that over 65 million children were aborted, well, those would have been people that were paying into Social Security, which is the point that you were making on that.
[110:03] SPEAKER_20: Bill in North Glen, it is so good to have you on the line.
[110:07] SPEAKER_20: And it was great to get to meet you at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers event last week as well.
[110:12] SPEAKER_20: So it was great to put a name and a face together.
[110:15] Franktown Firearms commercial: One other thing that I might add with regards to abortion.
[110:19] Franktown Firearms commercial: Uh, who are?
[110:21] Franktown Firearms commercial: Who are the folks that are having abortions?
[110:23] Franktown Firearms commercial: Are they conservative christians?
[110:24] Franktown Firearms commercial: Probably not.
[110:26] Franktown Firearms commercial: They're primarily the liberals.
[110:28] Franktown Firearms commercial: So the liberals should be dominating, uh, all the governmental bodies by having simply having children.
[110:36] Franktown Firearms commercial: So I would guess I would encourage all the children, all the liberals, to have a whole lot of children and convert them into liberals.
[110:42] Franktown Firearms commercial: That flies in the face of their globalism and their one world government.
[110:47] SPEAKER_20: Well, but what has happened is, is they've taken over the educational institutions.
[110:51] SPEAKER_20: So they're indoctrinating the children, the other children.
[110:55] SPEAKER_20: Bill and North Glen, thank you so much.
[110:57] SPEAKER_20: And we've got Gammy on the line.
[110:59] SPEAKER_20: Gammy, we've got maybe a minute and a half.
[111:01] Bill (caller): All right, let me hit it fast.
[111:03] Bill (caller): I watched, listened to Candy Graff, our representative, speaking at the legislature.
[111:09] Bill (caller): And three or more times he was interrupted by the head, you know, police sergeant in there for just using the word groomers.
[111:20] Bill (caller): And he was not using the word groomers.
[111:23] Bill (caller): He was stating, I am reading you a letter from Rich Guggenheim of the Gays for Groomers organization.
[111:30] Bill (caller): And they kept gigging him.
[111:33] Bill (caller): And then I remembered all the times that I spoke, like at D- 49school board or city council or commissioners, when I would go up, sometimes I would have to do that turnaround to address the audience for a minute, you know, in my presentation.
[111:49] Bill (caller): And I was told things like, you cannot address them.
[111:53] Bill (caller): You turn around.
[111:54] Bill (caller): I mean, it was like the Politburo was in charge, the daggone commie Marxists.
[112:00] Bill (caller): I've seen this.
[112:02] Bill (caller): And then, of course, all the people that got kicked out with these letters for speaking and or disagreeing with them.
[112:09] Bill (caller): Listen, he's right what he said.
[112:12] Bill (caller): He turned around to speak.
[112:14] Bill (caller): They won't even let you do that anymore.
[112:16] Bill (caller): They are controlling so much of our first amendment.
[112:19] Bill (caller): Everybody in this audience needs to wake up and tell everybody they know to not comply.
[112:25] Bill (caller): They're doing illegal things to us that are violating every right we have and if we don't start pointing it out, standing up harder and more we're done.
[112:37] Bill (caller): We have to keep fighting.
[112:38] SPEAKER_20: Absolutely, Gammy, and that's why we do the show.
[112:41] SPEAKER_20: So I thank you so much, and I also thank you for your courage.
[112:44] SPEAKER_20: And I got to meet you in person last week as well when I spoke at the Spunky Patriots, and they certainly live up to their name, Gammy.
[112:52] Bill (caller): Yes, they do, and there's a bunch of us there.
[112:55] Bill (caller): I'm proud of all of them.
[112:56] Bill (caller): They're so inspiring, and so are you.
[112:59] Bill (caller): You keep it up.
[113:00] SPEAKER_20: Thanks, Gammy.
[113:01] SPEAKER_20: And we're out of time.
[113:03] SPEAKER_20: The quote for the end of the show is from Marcus Aurelius.
[113:05] SPEAKER_20: He said, the happiness of your life depends on the quality of your thoughts.
[113:09] SPEAKER_20: So, my friends, today be grateful.
[113:11] SPEAKER_20: Read great books.
[113:11] SPEAKER_20: Think good thoughts.
[113:12] SPEAKER_20: Listen to beautiful music.
[113:13] SPEAKER_20: Communicate and listen well.
[113:14] SPEAKER_20: Live honestly and authentically.
[113:15] SPEAKER_20: Strive for high ideals.
[113:16] SPEAKER_20: And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[113:20] SPEAKER_20: My friends, you are not alone.
[113:22] SPEAKER_20: God bless you, and God bless America.
[113:24] Gammy (caller): And we will fight for the right to live in freedom Thank you.
[113:38] Gammy (caller): you.