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[00:22] Kim Monson: With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation.
[00:32] Show Announcer: Today's current opinions and ideas.
[00:36] Kim Monson: I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
[00:44] Show Announcer: Is it freedom or is it force?
[00:47] Show Announcer: Let's have a conversation.
[00:49] Kim Monson: Indeed, let's have a conversation and welcome to the Kim Monson Show Thank you so much for joining us You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose Today, strive for excellence Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body My friends, we were made for this moment in history And thank you to the team that I get to work with That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie Mike, Teresa, Amanda and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting Happy Thursday, Producer Joe So happy Thursday, Kim.
[01:21] Kim Monson: And there is a lot going on out there.
[01:26] Kim Monson: We've got a great show planned for you today.
[01:28] Kim Monson: As you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[01:35] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[01:39] Kim Monson: And it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods or lives via force.
[01:48] Kim Monson: And force can obviously be weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites that we see playing out all the way down to local governments.
[02:05] Kim Monson: And these local races, these local elected races are so, so important.
[02:10] Kim Monson: and we see this playing out through road diets, forest fees, zoning regulations, national monument designations.
[02:23] Kim Monson: All these things are an assault upon property rights, and that's one of the things that we focus on on a regular basis- is property rights, because property rights are so inherent to the American idea of the fact that everyday people could own property.
[02:44] Kim Monson: When you hear the globalist elites say that by 2030 that we will own nothing and be happy about it, well, we will not be happy about it.
[02:53] Kim Monson: And quite frankly, this agenda is between high taxes and fees, really, really taking away our property rights.
[03:04] Kim Monson: And so that's why we do the show is because we have to engage in this battle of ideas.
[03:13] Kim Monson: And so stay tuned as we are working on all of this.
[03:18] Kim Monson: Now, our word of the day is hoodwinked.
[03:21] Kim Monson: And yesterday when Bob Boswell was on, we were talking about Senate Bill 24-230.
[03:26] Kim Monson: And that is where the three big oil and gas producers, that was Occidental, Chevron, and Civitas, made a deal in 2024 with the radical activist politicians, Democrat politicians.
[03:46] Kim Monson: And this Democrat party is not the party of JFK or your grandpa and your grandma.
[03:55] Kim Monson: And we need to make sure that we talk to people about that, because the big, broad middle of America, and that is moderate Democrats and Republicans and conservatives and unaffiliateds and libertarians, we love this American idea.
[04:14] Kim Monson: And so we need to be electing representatives that will push that forward.
[04:19] Kim Monson: And so anyway, the three big oil and gas producers made this deal.
[04:26] Kim Monson: And the deal was that there'd be no new regulations or no new legislation regarding oil and gas.
[04:34] Kim Monson: So what they decided, what instead they're doing is they're doing it through regulations.
[04:38] Kim Monson: So anyway, the deal was made that there would be a fee that would be put on production of oil and gas here in Colorado.
[04:47] Kim Monson: And that makes it more expensive all across the board.
[04:53] Kim Monson: I was so concerned about that when I saw that.
[04:56] Kim Monson: And he said, well, I think that the big three were hoodwinked.
[04:59] Kim Monson: And so I thought, well, that's a great word of the day.
[05:08] Kim Monson: It means to deceive or swindle by deception, to blindfold or to conceal.
[05:12] Kim Monson: And so it should be pretty darn easy for you to use the word hoodwinked in a sentence today.
[05:23] Kim Monson: And our quote for today is from Thomas Jefferson.
[05:26] Kim Monson: And he said this, and this was a letter to Martha Jefferson in 1787, which that was the year the constitution was signed.
[05:35] Kim Monson: He said, determined never to be idle.
[05:37] Kim Monson: No person will have occasion to complain of want of time who never loses any.
[05:43] Kim Monson: It is wonderful how much may be done if we are always doing and that you may always be doing good, my dear, is the ardent prayer of yours affectionately.
[05:59] Kim Monson: And guys, I think that you could take that and look to these staff programs where people are receiving government benefits and are not working.
[06:07] Kim Monson: And so never determined never to be idle.
[06:11] Kim Monson: And again, that is Thomas Jefferson.
[06:15] Kim Monson: Next thing, I really want to encourage you, the girls were over last night, and we talked a bit about this petition that we've put together for Tina Peters to call on Governor Polis to release her by Christmas Eve.
[06:30] Kim Monson: And I've had several questions on, well, what's the deadline to sign this?
[06:35] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking, well, just sign it now.
[06:37] Kim Monson: But they said, No, Kim, you need to have a deadline.
[06:40] Kim Monson: So the deadline for this will be Friday the 19th.
[06:45] Kim Monson: And send this out not only to people here in Colorado, but throughout the country.
[06:54] Kim Monson: And he really watches the tea leaves.
[06:58] Kim Monson: And if, in fact, and we're getting good response, I want great response on this.
[07:04] Kim Monson: And if we will then present to him a long list of people throughout the country and we're going to present first name and the first initial of the last name and request that he not request, call on him to release Tina Peters by Christmas Eve and appealing to no matter what you feel about her case and the details on that case.
[07:38] Kim Monson: And so Governor Polis has a choice here.
[07:40] Kim Monson: He can show mercy, compassion, and kindness and release her.
[07:44] Kim Monson: And if he does not release her, he's showing the opposite, that he does not show mercy, that he is not kind, and that he is not compassionate.
[07:56] Kim Monson: And so sign it and send this out to your sphere of influence, because this is what the petition says.
[08:09] Kim Monson: And say, we as fellow human beings respectfully call upon Governor Jared Polis to release former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters on or before Christmas Eve, Wednesday, December 24.
[08:22] Kim Monson: We call on him to exhibit kindness, compassion, and mercy to Tina Peters by granting her release.
[08:28] Kim Monson: Release her immediately so that she may seek the medical treatment she needs, including care for a possible return of cancer, and allow her the opportunity to visit her hospitalized 97-year-old mother.
[08:41] Kim Monson: And so go to my website, sign the petition, share it with your sphere of influence, and let's work to get Tina Peters released by Christmas Eve.
[08:51] Kim Monson: We get to do all of these projects here, and I thank all of you for your support because of our great sponsors.
[09:00] Kim Monson: And I think we have on the line with us Karen Gorday with Radiant Painting and Lighting.
[09:07] Kim Monson: And the girls were over last night.
[09:12] Karen Gordey: I'm doing some major validation for the Lakewood referendum.
[09:19] Karen Gordey: So I was steady working on that and then realized the time, and I was like, Oh, it's 730.
[09:30] Kim Monson: Where are you at on these petitions?
[09:32] Kim Monson: Because this is the petition, the last petition, right?
[09:42] Karen Gordey: We're expecting the fourth in the next couple weeks.
[09:46] Karen Gordey: And then they have to have a hearing for these.
[09:51] Kim Monson: And um, and the protest is saying that you guys should have had a or not you guys, because you're just working on it, but that that the organizer should have um registered as an issue committee.
[10:07] Karen Gordey: So so that the campaign finance hearing, um it was held november 20th, the hearing officer was supposed to make a decision by yesterday and she notified the city that she could not render her decision within that time frame.
[10:25] Karen Gordey: So now it's we just wait and wait and wait um.
[10:29] Karen Gordey: And so they are creating a 501c4 um, and they're also going to take donations that go directly to the lawyer, um, because they have to pay for the lawyer now.
[10:44] Karen Gordey: She did pro bono work for the campaign finance complaint, but we've got four protests here.
[10:53] Karen Gordey: And I'm working on, I'm kind of heading up the validation team to get this stuff done and summarized for the lawyer.
[11:01] Karen Gordey: Because the more we can do, the less lawyer costs there are.
[11:06] Kim Monson: And this is the thing, everyday people, you're running your business, it takes time to do this, and then the money for the attorney.
[11:16] Kim Monson: And this is because Lakewood was putting in, initially it was just a blanket rezoning, right?
[11:28] Karen Gordey: Blanket rezoning to allow high density anywhere in the city.
[11:35] Kim Monson: They split the zoning ordinance into four parts and initially- and that was once- they realized that there was organized opposition to this and they realized that, and so they did this- it was strategically or strategic, so that the opponents to this would then have to get four different petitions and just try to make it more difficult.
[11:56] Kim Monson: It wasn't that they don't want to hear from the people.
[12:02] Karen Gordey: I think they are still trying to figure out how the two co- petitionersthat were never involved in government figured this all out.
[12:09] Karen Gordey: And that's probably going to come out during the protest hearings, I would imagine.
[12:16] Karen Gordey: But the good news is these four ordinances were supposed to go into effect January 1st.
[12:23] Karen Gordey: They received confirmation from the city clerk that those four ordinances, because of the referendum, are on hold until the final sufficiency reports come from the city clerk.
[12:38] Karen Gordey: So those four protest hearings are super, super important to see what city council is going to do when they realize they really do have all the signatures they need.
[12:54] Kim Monson: And so good for you citizens out there.
[12:57] Kim Monson: Let's move over to your business, Radiant Painting and Lighting.
[13:00] Kim Monson: So you probably have got all the holiday lighting up because we're, I can't believe we're into the Christmas season, but that's all probably done, yes?
[13:11] Karen Gordey: And now it's kind of a slower period for the next couple weeks, and I'm okay with that.
[13:16] Kim Monson: I'm sure you are because you ran for city council as well.
[13:23] Kim Monson: I've been working on cleaning the garage, and I've got a bunch of old paint.
[13:32] Kim Monson: What do people do regarding old paint and chemicals?
[13:38] Karen Gordey: If it's regular latex paint and oil- basedpaint, so whether it's a quart- sized,gallon- sized,five- gallonbucket, you can take those to just about any Sherwin- Williams.
[13:49] Karen Gordey: The problem you're going to run into sometimes, though, is their bins for recycling paint may be full.
[13:57] Karen Gordey: So if you have over 10 gallons of paint, you can actually go out to a website called Green Sheen Paint.
[14:06] Karen Gordey: So that's green, the color sheen, is S- H-E-E-Npaint, P- A-I-N-T,.
[14:13] Karen Gordey: And if you have more than 10 gallons, they will actually come pick it up from your house.
[14:18] Karen Gordey: And I usually do that at the end of every exterior season.
[14:26] Karen Gordey: I will schedule a pickup because, you know, I have a ton of paint after exterior season.
[14:36] Karen Gordey: They tell me the day and time they're going to be here.
[14:38] Karen Gordey: And I set it out right outside my garage door.
[14:43] Karen Gordey: It's a little more difficult if you have old mineral spirits lying around or spray paint, things like that.
[14:50] Karen Gordey: Those are considered hazardous chemicals, and you'll have to look up your city or county and see where you take hazardous chemicals for recycling.
[15:02] Karen Gordey: I know in Lakewood we have the Rooney Road Recycling Center, and that's where you have to take them, and there's typically a cost.
[15:15] Karen Gordey: And if you have over 10 gallons, they will come pick it up from you.
[15:20] Kim Monson: And I can't believe it, but as fast as time is going, spring's right around the corner.
[15:25] Kim Monson: And I need to get you out here in spring to take a look at my house.
[15:32] Kim Monson: And so probably maybe, as you said, this is a slow time, but people can start to think about springtime.
[15:39] Kim Monson: And, of course, you are always doing interiors.
[15:41] Kim Monson: What's the best way for people to reach you?
[15:48] Karen Gordey: com,or you can reach out directly to me at 720- 940-3887.
[15:58] Kim Monson: Well, Karen Gorday, we will talk next week.
[16:00] Kim Monson: Thank you for all that you are doing for the people of Colorado, for the people of Lakewood and the people of Colorado, and we'll talk next week.
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[18:49] Kim Monson: And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show.
[18:57] Kim Monson: And please have on the line with me Cory Ohnesorge.
[19:00] Kim Monson: He is one of my fellow board members on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[19:05] Kim Monson: And before we get into this, I want to say thank you to all of them.
[19:08] Kim Monson: That's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Cory Ohnesorge, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard.
[19:20] Kim Monson: These are all volunteers that are doing amazing work for the people of Colorado, watching the legislation during the legislative session.
[19:31] Kim Monson: Our ratings report is being mailed out to members as we speak, and it was an enormous amount of work.
[19:39] Kim Monson: If you would like to get a hard copy, you need to join us, and you can do that by going to coloradotaxpayer.
[19:52] Kim Monson: And we did not have an in-person board meeting this week, so I'm missing all of you.
[19:57] Kim Monson: But you had sent this over regarding this goofy PUC just came out with a clean heat plan for Colorado, which I'm renaming it, Corey, the unaffordable keep Coloradans in the dark and cold plan.
[20:17] Cory Ohnesorge: Well, first thing let's seriously understand is that Colorado Public Utilities Commission is comprised of three people, all hand-selected, appointed by the governor, and then ratified by our state senate.
[20:33] Cory Ohnesorge: And so they handle all kinds of issues with anything really having to do with utilities.
[20:44] Cory Ohnesorge: And how we got here was before I ever got on Colorado taxpayers, Senate Bill 21-264, they passed it.
[20:57] Cory Ohnesorge: And it basically demanded utilities reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 4 percent by 2025 and by 22 percent by 2030..
[21:12] Cory Ohnesorge: And when you look at the numbers on what it's going to take to electrify Colorado, if you will, the numbers don't add up.
[21:22] Cory Ohnesorge: There's no cost savings really anywhere across the board for residents.
[21:27] Cory Ohnesorge: And they do have plans to find buildings such as in Denver, where if they don't have clean energy, you know, whether it's solar, heat pumps, you know, all this electrification stuff, a lot of building owners are going to get fined, and it's going to drive more business out of Colorado.
[21:47] Cory Ohnesorge: It's going to drive all of our rates up because the infrastructure to do this is really high.
[21:53] Cory Ohnesorge: And, you know, it really just, you know, says again, a reiterated idea how important it is for us to get good people in office and especially a governor.
[22:02] Cory Ohnesorge: So it's pretty alarming to me because I've had to deal with the public utilities commission a number of times.
[22:10] Cory Ohnesorge: I'm in the solar electrical industry and um yeah, they're usually pretty good about being on time and getting back with you, and then with excel they've got a representative that you know, liaisons through the process to make sure things, uh, are done culturally.
[22:24] Cory Ohnesorge: But I encourage everybody to attend the monthly meetings that the Public Utilities Commission has and voice your pain about how stupid this is.
[22:38] Cory Ohnesorge: And, I mean, at the end of the day, if my chemistry and memory serves me correct, we got, you know, methane, CH4 plus O2 gives you CO2, water, and heat.
[22:52] Cory Ohnesorge: and they cleverly picked carbon dioxide as sounding something bad like carbon monoxide, and it's something that we exhale.
[23:01] Cory Ohnesorge: So psychologically, it's in a lot of people's brain that this is a terrible greenhouse gas, and in reality, it's what plants breathe, and it's a life-giving gas.
[23:13] Kim Monson: Well, it is, and well, Rami Johnson, who's on the board with us, her husband, And Walt Johnson, who is a geophysicist, wanted to do a documentary about this whole climate change conversation.
[23:29] Kim Monson: So it is called A Climate Conversation.
[23:33] Kim Monson: And people can watch that for free by going to climateconversation.
[23:37] Kim Monson: But CO2, as you said, it's been demonized as a greenhouse gas.
[23:43] Kim Monson: Let's just dissect that a little bit.
[23:46] Kim Monson: CO2 is what plants need to survive.
[23:49] Kim Monson: And so it's really nature's fertilizer.
[23:52] Kim Monson: And then greenhouse gas, again, they've demonized that.
[23:56] Kim Monson: But, for example, in the marijuana grow houses here in Colorado, my understanding is they will actually put in CO2 in those greenhouses so that those plants produce more and thrive and flourish.
[24:12] Kim Monson: So it's been such a brilliant but diabolical play on language with CO2 and greenhouse gases, Corey.
[24:23] Cory Ohnesorge: Yeah, it goes back to getting away from our Christian values and worshiping Gaia and the planet and all this stuff and making you think that CO2 is something we breathe out.
[24:36] Cory Ohnesorge: So if we've got to get CO2 to zero, as Billy Gates says on his TED Talks, I mean, that means you.
[24:47] Cory Ohnesorge: That means human beings, getting rid of human beings.
[24:51] Cory Ohnesorge: And one of the ways I think that they're going to be doing this is by getting rid of our energy.
[24:56] Cory Ohnesorge: I mean, economically, our dollar is hurting right now, and we all better be praying every day that Trump's economic plans work and this whole thing doesn't go straight to hell in a handbasket.
[25:12] Cory Ohnesorge: Because by shutting down a lot of our energy, which a lot of Democrat states are doing, our coal production, our natural gas, we're hitting ourselves.
[25:25] Cory Ohnesorge: Well, guess who's building a bunch of coal plants and pumping a bunch of natural gas and doing all the energy things and growing, growing, growing?
[25:39] Cory Ohnesorge: And then, again, with natural gas, I mean, it doesn't get much cleaner than that.
[25:43] Cory Ohnesorge: So at some point, maybe it just has to– I say this all the time, but maybe it just has to get worse before it gets better.
[25:50] Cory Ohnesorge: and I'm sure they're going to write books about how dumb all this climatology stuff was.
[25:57] Cory Ohnesorge: And you're never wrong when you say climate change, because, heck, especially here in Colorado, it changes all the time.
[26:04] Cory Ohnesorge: I remember days where one day it's different 80, 90 degrees than the next day.
[26:10] Kim Monson: I've said that Colorado is a place where you can wear your swimming suit and your snow boots on the same day.
[26:18] Kim Monson: So, Corey, now you mentioned that you are in the electrical solar business, and so you see benefits in solar, but I think where we're all just so concerned is just all of the incentives and force around these industrial projects.
[26:37] Cory Ohnesorge: yeah i don't think solar was ever necessarily a force thing but i think if we look at our bigger cousins to the west in california uh what they ended up doing especially in northern california so they got all these people to go on solar and then uh you know it was one for one you know one kilowatt hour produced uh every one kilowatt hour um used right or consumed and then they switched it, you know, NEM net metering to NEM2, and then they were like, oh, well, now we're going to sell you electricity at, say,$ 0.
[27:15] Cory Ohnesorge: 30a kilowatt hour, and the electricity you produce only going to be worth, like,$ 0.
[27:24] Cory Ohnesorge: So their public utilities commission agreed with that.
[27:27] Cory Ohnesorge: And then they came up with NEM3, net metering 3, which basically, you know, you're paying$ 0.
[27:33] Cory Ohnesorge: 40a kilowatt hour, and your electricity you produce is only worth$ 0.
[27:40] Cory Ohnesorge: So I think we're going to start seeing, since they're a little bit further down the road than we are, and Europe was a little bit further down the road than California was, we can just look at those instances and guess where we're going.
[27:54] Cory Ohnesorge: That's going to be screwing people that decide to put solar on their homes.
[28:04] Cory Ohnesorge: I mean, I don't have a crystal ball, but logic tells me that.
[28:09] Cory Ohnesorge: And it's going to piss off a lot of people, but we've gotten so comfortable with this govern- me-harder-daddyattitude that everybody seems to have, at least especially on the left, that I don't know what else to do.
[28:31] Cory Ohnesorge: You can be backed up when the electrical grid goes down, you know, especially in the colder months where, you know, you could potentially freeze or whatever else.
[28:43] Cory Ohnesorge: So there's a lot of benefits to this stuff if you use them properly.
[28:48] Cory Ohnesorge: And there's also independence to be had, self- sufficiency.
[28:59] Kim Monson: It's that whole force component that we are so concerned about.
[29:03] Kim Monson: And, Corey, it is so great to have you on the board of Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
[29:07] Kim Monson: And we really do have an amazing group.
[29:11] Kim Monson: We don't always agree on everything, but we have great discussions.
[29:14] Kim Monson: And that's really foundational to the American idea.
[29:18] Kim Monson: So I really appreciate our fellow board members.
[29:24] Cory Ohnesorge: And I just wanted to say have a Merry Christmas to you and all your listeners as well.
[29:31] Cory Ohnesorge: And everybody, Jordan, heel to heel with you in this fight because you've got to dig in and it's going to be a long one.
[29:41] Kim Monson: Well, right back at you, Cory Ohnesorge.
[29:43] Kim Monson: And again, my fellow Cupboard member, you can join us by going to coloradotaxpayer.
[29:53] Kim Monson: and you will have access to an enormous amount of great work.
[29:57] Kim Monson: So, Corey, Merry Christmas to you as well, and we'll talk soon.
[30:03] Kim Monson: And again, I'm blessed to work with just amazing people across the board.
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[33:09] Kim Monson: And on the line with me is realtor up in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
[33:12] Kim Monson: That is Wendy Volk, and she has been been
[33:20] Kim Monson: really shedding light on these industrial wind projects that are being proposed up in Wyoming.
[33:29] Kim Monson: And as we are starting to realize this, these are big, big land grabs.
[33:35] Kim Monson: And so, Wendy, welcome to the show.
[33:43] Kim Monson: It's been a little while since we've talked.
[33:46] Kim Monson: We've talked, and of course we've talked about the project in Laramie County, Wyoming, which is where you're at.
[33:54] Kim Monson: And so update us, first of all, on that particular project.
[33:59] Wendy Volk: So, about six months ago is when we were notified by a company that's out of Spain, named Repsol, that was going to be proposing a wind project outside of Cheyenne in the Horse Creek area.
[34:13] Wendy Volk: It's in the Laramie Range Wind area.
[34:18] Wendy Volk: But the project's called Laramie Range Wind.
[34:20] Wendy Volk: And it went before our county commissioners to get a preliminary site plan approved.
[34:26] Wendy Volk: And so this fall, based on a tremendous amount of public input, the county commissioners listened to what the citizens said.
[34:34] Wendy Volk: And based on the application and our Laramie County land use regulations, the county commissioners denied the permit.
[34:41] Wendy Volk: And our planning commission also said they needed more information and their recommendation was to postpone voting on the site plan because of the numerous questions that were raised, and there was inadequate time to have those answers made.
[34:58] Wendy Volk: So on the Laramie Range Wind project outside of Cheyenne, that 56,000-acre proposed project, that's on hold.
[35:05] Wendy Volk: The company has filed an appeal to our district court to have perhaps the ruling overturned.
[35:16] Wendy Volk: So we're in a holding pattern to see how that is going to play out.
[35:20] Wendy Volk: And then so I get questions on a regular, ongoing basis of what the status of that 170 wind turbine project would be here in our community.
[35:30] Wendy Volk: Just north of Cheyenne there's a small agriculture community called Chugwater, and Chugwater has got a wind, solar and lithium battery project being proposed.
[35:44] Wendy Volk: That's on 50,000 acres and that one is at the stage of going through our state industrial siting permit approval process and they had two full days of discussion and they're going.
[36:06] Wendy Volk: They were going to wait because there was not enough time to get everything addressed during that two-day period that they've had to table that until either it'll maybe be this month or January.
[36:16] Wendy Volk: I think it would be unfortunate if it was this month.
[36:20] Wendy Volk: It's the holidays, and trying to squeeze that in everyone's schedule during a very busy holiday season might be impractical, but that's to wait and see.
[36:29] Wendy Volk: But Chugwater did an amazing job of raising a wide variety of concerns, historical, environmental, the impact to wildlife.
[36:40] Wendy Volk: It was just amazing to see the discussion.
[36:44] Wendy Volk: And And all of these kind of projects have been kind of taking place over the last six months, of me just wanting to see what the impact would be to our family's ranch.
[36:55] Wendy Volk: That's been there for six generations, 150 years.
[37:01] Wendy Volk: While I was just focused on, in my county, what could be right directly impacting our family, this has been taking place over several months and several years.
[37:12] Wendy Volk: multiple industrial wind, solar-type projects in multiple counties, different communities, and I hadn't really connected the dots.
[37:21] Wendy Volk: Excuse me, I have to clear my throat.
[37:23] Wendy Volk: And all of a sudden I realized, oh, my goodness, this is creating a wind wall.
[37:28] Wendy Volk: We are having this cumulative impact of significantly large industrial renewable expansion taking place in our communities, and really not talking about what is that cumulative impact.
[37:44] Wendy Volk: And no one agency is looking at that across county lines, throughout the state, you know, either regionally or at a state level.
[37:56] Wendy Volk: It's just happening so quickly and with maybe not enough public awareness or public input.
[38:01] Kim Monson: So people, and you've been, you've just been, a really thoughtful voice about this and as people are starting to pay attention, so the the project is on hold right now in laramie county and it's working through the process here in uh, at chug water right as well.
[38:29] Wendy Volk: So if we go just north Denver from Cheyenne is 90 miles.
[38:36] Wendy Volk: And then Chugwater is farther north of Cheyenne, about 40 miles, 35 miles.
[38:42] Wendy Volk: And then when you continue up Interstate 80, the next community is Glenrock.
[38:46] Wendy Volk: And they also are having an industrial project that is going through considerable input and also legal challenges.
[38:57] Wendy Volk: and that's, again, part of this continuous industrial corridor.
[39:02] Wendy Volk: I'm calling it the wind wall, and so are many others.
[39:06] Kim Monson: Well, and there's a huge land grab in doing this, and there's so many things to consider regarding the construction of this and what it does to the land and what it does to the property owners.
[39:23] Kim Monson: And so connecting the dots on this wind wall is really important, And I had done some research trying to figure out whose owners of Repsol and just did a quick search.
[39:49] Kim Monson: And it says that BlackRock has just under 7%of the shares of Repsol.
[39:56] Kim Monson: And then I was out in Albert County on Tuesday night making comments to the Colorado Public Utilities Commission, encouraging or really calling on them to deny a permit for Xcel Energy for an industrial transmission line, which that also is a big land grab.
[40:07] Kim Monson: And BlackRock has significant ownership in that as well.
[40:11] Kim Monson: And, of course, BlackRock, the head of BlackRock is Larry Fink, who Larry is now also the head of the World Economic Forum.
[40:19] Kim Monson: And I think it's important to connect that dot, Wendy.
[40:22] Wendy Volk: Yeah, I think there's major investors here.
[40:26] Wendy Volk: You want to see economic, smart economic development growth.
[40:30] Wendy Volk: And it takes sometimes quite a bit of coordinated effort and investors for things to progress.
[40:41] Wendy Volk: What I'm concerned about is irresponsible development and not dotting our I's and crossing our T's.
[40:50] Wendy Volk: Is there any type of government trying to do like eminent domain, of taking away someone's property?
[40:56] Wendy Volk: What's what most of these projects are comprised of?
[41:00] Wendy Volk: At least the one here in Laramie County is on that 56, 000acre proposed project, 50, 000acres are on private land owned by two families and 6, 100acres is owned by the state of Wyoming.
[41:16] Wendy Volk: It's in land trust and so the revenue that's generated from on state land it's in Wyoming.
[41:22] Wendy Volk: It goes towards putting that those funds and investment type of a protected trust and then the interest that's generated from that goes toward public schools.
[41:32] Wendy Volk: So the way the state can lease their land, they can lease it out for agriculture purposes, and that's what the state land that we lease from the state of Wyoming adjacent to this project.
[41:43] Wendy Volk: We have our privately owned land, and we lease some land from the state similar to what this project is, but instead of them using the 6, 100acres for grazing their livestock, they're going to use the 6, 100acres to generate wind.
[42:01] Wendy Volk: And so that all of a sudden changes for the fact that these types of wind and industrial projects are typically long- termleases, 30 plus years.
[42:12] Wendy Volk: Our normal grazing lease with the state is typically a 10- yearlease.
[42:17] Wendy Volk: So all of a sudden, these long- term30- plusyear wind leases, they could be 40, 50 years.
[42:23] Wendy Volk: All of a sudden, that drastically changes the agriculture component of Laramie County to an industrial component that has a wide variety of impacts to adjacent property owners and the overall community.
[42:43] Kim Monson: So, Wendy, have you seen the details of that lease?
[42:46] Kim Monson: Because this agenda on industrial wind and solar projects, many times they've had incentives and there's tax incentives.
[42:55] Kim Monson: There's all kinds of incentives that, so are these companies really, are they really, you know, paying money for this land?
[43:08] Kim Monson: And as I asked that question, I remember talking with Virginia Maka with Stanford Land Kansas, and she said that there are some property owners that had leased their land to some industrial wind companies, and they are not being paid for those leases.
[43:26] Kim Monson: So have you seen any of the details on those leases?
[43:29] Wendy Volk: So I tried to find out because when we were going through the process of seeing the site permit being reviewed at the county commissioner level, I went and asked the state if they were also negotiating a wind lease on that state land.
[43:48] Wendy Volk: And they said, yes, they were, and they were going to be presenting that to the Wyoming Land Commission Board in January.
[43:58] Wendy Volk: And I said, well, wouldn't– not January, I'm sorry, December.
[44:02] Wendy Volk: And I said, can I see a copy of that?
[44:04] Wendy Volk: And they said, no, there's about a 10- day reviewprocess before that board meeting that I could have reviewed a probably 40, 50- page lease.
[44:13] Wendy Volk: And I was like, I don't think that's an adequate amount of time for the private citizens to be able to review a 40, 50 page legal document and be conversant about it in front of a board.
[44:27] Wendy Volk: And so that's something I hope, I mean, through this whole process, I want to see improvement.
[44:35] Wendy Volk: I think the community needs more time to be able to read and understand these.
[44:40] Wendy Volk: Even for me, you know, when this any type of industrial project, if there's state land or federal land involved, it takes time to review that.
[44:52] Wendy Volk: And unless you have a legal degree or you have an attorney on call that can review something in 10 days, I don't think that's adequate.
[44:58] Wendy Volk: It's taken me the past six months to get up to speed on something that's very complex.
[45:05] Wendy Volk: And I think I'm getting up to speed.
[45:09] Wendy Volk: But when I find out all the connecting points, the more I learn about it, the more concerned I become.
[45:16] Kim Monson: Well, we're going to continue the discussion with Wendy Volk, who is really, as she said, she's taken a lot of time to get up to speed on this industrial wind project in Laramie County, but then she's connected the dot that there's a real wind wall, And there's an enormous amount of land that is basically taken for these projects.
[45:38] Kim Monson: And I'm not opposed to wind nor solar.
[45:42] Kim Monson: But what I am opposed to is government involved in this with incentives.
[45:51] Kim Monson: And just putting like a 10- day windowto review complex documents is not enough time.
[46:00] Kim Monson: And so I really appreciate what she has been doing on that.
[46:04] Kim Monson: And so we're going to continue the discussion.
[46:05] Kim Monson: So a couple of things I did want to mention.
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[50:00] Kim Monson: We're talking with Wendy Volk, and she is a realtor in Cheyenne.
[50:05] Kim Monson: Wendy, this has been such a journey for you, and you have really been, I think, a really thoughtful voice on this.
[50:15] Kim Monson: And these are people I think I've also seen where I think these companies, in a way, are pitting some of the landowners against each other, Those that will be making money on the leases and then their neighbors.
[50:33] Kim Monson: And I think you've worked really hard to navigate through that, yes?
[50:38] Wendy Volk: Yes, and I think the big one is to have civil conversations and not attack one another.
[50:44] Wendy Volk: I think we've seen some real thoughtful discussion and discourse and raising great questions.
[50:54] Wendy Volk: I mean a lot of these permits and discussions have been taking place that I don't think a lot of people have seen and known about it and know that there's a bigger picture.
[51:09] Wendy Volk: And we're seeing one of the most dramatic land use transformations in our history here in Wyoming and probably Colorado, too, that it's 100 mile.
[51:20] Wendy Volk: We're talking the projects that I'm following right now, it's a 100-mile industrial corridor.
[51:26] Wendy Volk: And so when you go north from Fort Collins up the Road 287 to Laramie, where the University of Wyoming is, they have a 26,000-acre wind project that's been permitted, but it's, you know, now there's several lawsuits involved with that.
[51:43] Wendy Volk: They found out that that one involves some federal land as well as state and private land.
[51:50] Wendy Volk: That one, they found out there was 900 pages left out regarding the impacts to bald eagles and golden eagles and the mortality records.
[52:06] Wendy Volk: And so that's tied up in a lawsuit right now.
[52:10] Wendy Volk: There's the Glenrock Project in Wyoming is called the Pronghorn H2.
[52:15] Wendy Volk: There was a misapplied law and a misaligned project.
[52:21] Wendy Volk: And the energy generator was going to go for a hydrogen facility.
[52:27] Wendy Volk: And they found out, oh, wait, our state laws say that wind energy is supposed to be connected to a grid through substations.
[52:35] Wendy Volk: And they found out, oh, wait, the state approved a wind lease.
[52:39] Wendy Volk: on the public land, and it should not, the legal framework, I believe the legal framework was wrong and was used for a project unlike anything that's ever been contemplated by Wyoming law.
[52:54] Wendy Volk: So it's happening very, very quickly, and I think we just need to slow down and make sure we have the appropriate oversight, enough public input.
[53:05] Wendy Volk: We can just break this down because I think Wyoming, I think Colorado, I think the Rocky Mountains, we deserve better.
[53:11] Wendy Volk: And we're not asking to halt renewable energy.
[53:14] Wendy Volk: We just want to make sure that we are not, you know, that we're getting all the information.
[53:22] Wendy Volk: There's time to weigh in on the matter, that our statutes reflect the new technologies that are emerging, that we have cumulative impact analysis looking at an entire 100-mile corridor instead of looking at each of these projects on an individual project impact.
[53:43] Wendy Volk: There's historic landscapes being impacted.
[53:46] Wendy Volk: There's just, it's necessary to have meaningful community participation, and I really appreciate your helping raise the awareness on this subject.
[53:56] Kim Monson: Okay, we've got a question, and absolutely, I'm delighted to do so.
[54:01] Kim Monson: She says, ask Wendy if there is a conservation easement on that state land.
[54:06] Kim Monson: If so, was it conserved in perpetuity for ranching?
[54:11] Kim Monson: They can't change the use of that land.
[54:12] Kim Monson: That's why it was conserved to keep it in that original land use.
[54:16] Kim Monson: Have you looked into that at all, Wendy?
[54:19] Wendy Volk: I haven't seen any of that on the project in Horse Creek.
[54:28] Wendy Volk: I don't know about Glen Rock, and I don't know in Albany County if there's that component.
[54:35] Wendy Volk: But at least on the Horse Creek project called the Laramie Range Wind Project, I did not see that there's any type of a conservation easement.
[54:43] Kim Monson: So, Wendy Volk, we've got just a couple of minutes left.
[54:48] Kim Monson: Looking into the future, 2026, now there may be something happening here in December.
[54:55] Kim Monson: What do you see as we're moving into 2026 for all of this?
[55:03] Wendy Volk: I think, at least in my lifetime- and I'm 60 years old, that wyoming's had a- I would call it a.
[55:11] Wendy Volk: We're an energy state, and it's been a balanced energy development.
[55:16] Wendy Volk: That I believe should be done with stewardship, and there might be some recent legal victories and some legal challenges, um, but that I think all of our institutions need to rise to this challenge.
[55:28] Wendy Volk: And I think we have to insist on this transparency, accountability, evaluation, making sure just simple things like if someone announces there's going to be a project next to you on a neighboring property, that someone gives you an accurate map so you can actually see if this is going to be touching your project or your property and what the setbacks are.
[55:49] Wendy Volk: So big picture, you know, I would like to see us really improve a lot of our legislation regarding these emerging industries.
[55:57] Wendy Volk: But we need to step back and assess the full picture and ensure that any other future development reflects our Wyoming treasured landscapes, communities, and values.
[56:08] Wendy Volk: I just think we're going too quickly.
[56:11] Kim Monson: So, Wendy, we will talk again in the new year.
[56:13] Kim Monson: I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas, a prosperous 2026, and we'll talk in January.
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[59:10] Kim Monson: As you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[59:16] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it, and it's not compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force.
[59:28] Kim Monson: Force can be a weapon, we know that, but it can be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, and this agenda of the World Economic Forum and globalist elites that is playing out all the way to municipal governments.
[59:44] Kim Monson: And so that's why we've got to shed light on this, because it's an assault upon property rights.
[59:50] Kim Monson: And property, owning property was foundational to our founding, to the American idea.
[59:58] Kim Monson: And the founders didn't know what would happen if everyday people could own property.
[60:03] Kim Monson: Well, what happened was America, where we have this big, broad middle class, where people can create wealth for themselves and their families.
[60:10] Kim Monson: And we see this assault through taxation and rules and regulations and fees to take away our property rights.
[60:18] Kim Monson: And so that's why we do the show, is so that we understand what's happening, shed light on it.
[60:24] Kim Monson: A little bit of transparency goes a long way.
[60:26] Kim Monson: We must demand accountability and transparency, as Wendy Volk has said.
[60:31] Kim Monson: And so that's why we do what we do.
[60:35] Kim Monson: I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power that comes from naturally occurring hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate.
[60:54] Kim Monson: And I certainly appreciate a wide range of energy sources for us to live our lives.
[61:02] Kim Monson: But there has been assault upon naturally occurring hydrocarbons.
[61:07] Kim Monson: And then there's been incentives, tax incentives, favorable treatment for other industries.
[61:13] Kim Monson: There needs to be a level playing field.
[61:15] Kim Monson: And then the energy sources will rise to the top if there's not coercion in that whole thing.
[61:21] Kim Monson: We're seeing all kinds of coercion in Colorado with this Colorado state government that is governed.
[61:30] Kim Monson: The supermajority is not a Democrat supermajority, although that's the moniker.
[61:35] Kim Monson: It's actually radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party.
[61:40] Kim Monson: This Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of your grandpa and your grandma.
[61:44] Kim Monson: This is radical activists pushing this World Economic Forum agenda.
[61:50] Kim Monson: and we are at the forefront here in Colorado on all that that is going, all that's happening.
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[62:15] Kim Monson: And I mentioned that I was out in Kiowa on Tuesday night testifying in front of the Public Utilities Commission.
[62:24] Kim Monson: And Ben Williams also, with Ben's Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling, was out there.
[62:28] Kim Monson: And he made the point that, and I'm paraphrasing, but this wind and solar, these industrial projects and these industrial transmission lines, wind and solar is probably going to become a dinosaur, if you will.
[62:45] Kim Monson: There's new energy sources that are being considered.
[62:48] Kim Monson: We have Bill Gates that has come out and said, oh, this whole climate change, maybe that's not real.
[62:55] Kim Monson: The reason is because he probably wants different energy sources for data centers.
[62:59] Kim Monson: But Ben made some very thoughtful comments out at the PUC as well, and I thank him for doing that.
[63:06] Kim Monson: So thank you to Ben Williams for that.
[63:08] Kim Monson: Our quote for the, well, our word of the day is hoodwinked, and it is spelled H-O-O-D-W-I-N-K-E-D.
[63:21] Kim Monson: It's a transitive verb, and it could be to deceive or swindle by deception, to blindfold or to conceal.
[63:28] Kim Monson: and I would say that many of these projects, these industrial wind and solar projects, in a way are hoodwinking us because they are concealing some of the information.
[63:45] Kim Monson: And so we do not want to be hoodwinked.
[63:47] Kim Monson: And again, that's H-O-O-D-W-I-N-K-E-D.
[63:51] Kim Monson: And it should be pretty easy for you to use that in a sentence today.
[63:55] Kim Monson: And it's kind of a fun word to say too.
[63:57] Kim Monson: So hoodwinked is our word of the day.
[63:59] Kim Monson: Our quote of the day is from Thomas Jefferson.
[64:03] Kim Monson: And he is basically was the author of the Declaration of Independence.
[64:10] Kim Monson: And he said this, so this was a letter to Martha Jefferson in 1787.
[64:14] Kim Monson: And he said this, and I need to check, that may be Martha, maybe his daughter.
[64:20] Kim Monson: He said, determined never to be idle.
[64:23] Kim Monson: No person will have occasion to complain of the want of time who never loses any.
[64:29] Kim Monson: It is wonderful how much may be done if we are always doing and that you may always be doing good, my dear, is the ardent prayer of yours affectionately.
[64:39] Kim Monson: And again, that is Thomas Jefferson.
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[65:33] Kim Monson: And I wanted to also mention our petition to call on Governor Jared Polis to release Tina Peters from prison by Christmas Eve, which is Wednesday, the 24th of December.
[65:51] Kim Monson: Please sign the petition by the 19th and share it with your friends and family.
[65:57] Kim Monson: And we are calling on Governor Polis to show some compassion and kindness and mercy.
[66:05] Kim Monson: Particularly, this is a good time to do this at Christmastime.
[66:10] Kim Monson: And if he does not release her, then he is showing the opposite, that he is not kind and that he is not compassionate and he is not merciful.
[66:21] Kim Monson: And we see on a regular basis the word kind is being used by the radical activist left to push all kinds of radical things.
[66:32] Kim Monson: And so, for example, they say it shows some kindness and affirmation.
[66:41] Kim Monson: Well, it's not kind to affirm a lie to somebody, but they use the word kind all the time.
[66:49] Kim Monson: So I intentionally use the word kind, and I think it's important that he shows some kindness.
[66:55] Kim Monson: If he does not release her, he is showing the opposite.
[66:58] Kim Monson: He has aspirations to run for higher office, and if he knows that people here in Colorado and people throughout the country are are looking at him as unkind, uncompassionate and unmerciful, then I think that that's going to play with him.
[67:17] Kim Monson: So sign the petition and make sure that you send this out to your sphere of influence.
[67:26] Kim Monson: It's coming to me, not an outside service, and we will be submitting first names and first initial in this petition.
[67:34] Kim Monson: and so we want many, many people to sign that.
[67:39] Kim Monson: You can do that by going to kimMonson.
[67:41] Kim Monson: There is a red banner at the top and that'll take you to all of the information, all the background information.
[67:46] Kim Monson: But we are calling on Governor Polis to release Tina Peters by Christmas Eve and show kindness, compassion, and mercy so that she can get needed medical care.
[67:59] Kim Monson: There may be a reoccurrence of cancer that is happening right now, So we pray for her for healing and strength.
[68:07] Kim Monson: And also her 97-year-old mother is in, my understanding, is in the hospital.
[68:13] Kim Monson: And it would be very merciful and kind and compassionate to let Tina Peters visit her mother.
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[70:52] Kim Monson: And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show.
[71:01] Kim Monson: And yes, just confirmed, Thomas Jefferson was writing to his daughter, Martha, in that quote of the day about never to be idle.
[71:08] Kim Monson: And that is very appropriate for today as well.
[71:14] Kim Monson: Pleased to have on the line with me Pam Long.
[71:17] Kim Monson: She is an author here at The Kim Monson Show.
[71:20] Kim Monson: She is also the military director for Children's Health Defense.
[71:25] Kim Monson: She is a graduate of West Point, a former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps.
[71:37] Kim Monson: Well, and I can't believe it's the end of the year, and we are looking at your annual review of the best and worst of Colorado politics, and it's pretty extensive.
[71:53] Pam Long: And this year I took a different approach.
[71:55] Pam Long: I usually talk about Colorado in terms of best and worst.
[71:59] Pam Long: And this year, because we're going into an election year to elect a new governor, I really wanted to come at it from a database perspective.
[72:07] Pam Long: So all those voters out there who maybe don't follow politics like you and I would have an objective measure of two camps, basically.
[72:19] Pam Long: It's not Republican and Democrat anymore.
[72:21] Pam Long: I truly think it's we the people versus the super majority.
[72:28] Kim Monson: And on a regular basis, I make the case that this Democrat Party, particularly here in Colorado, is no longer the party of JFK or your grandpa and your grandma.
[72:40] Kim Monson: I think some people say, hey, I just vote Democrat.
[72:44] Kim Monson: And what's happened is we've Colorado's in trouble is what's happened.
[72:52] Pam Long: And for any people who might think, you know, it's not that bad.
[72:57] Pam Long: There's one metric that I include in the article: that it's the U-Haul migration data from the past few years.
[73:03] Pam Long: And that in 2024, Colorado had the largest decline of any state in domestic migration, meaning it fell 31 places in the rankings to the bottom 10 in just the last year.
[73:19] Pam Long: So this was a state prior to the Polis administration.
[73:22] Pam Long: That was the number one state at one point, for people wanted to move here and have a business here and raise their family here.
[73:31] Pam Long: And now we are in the bottom 10 after a fall of 31 places.
[73:36] Pam Long: And this is absolutely the problem created by the governing supermajority.
[73:42] Pam Long: They cannot absolve themselves from this, from this exodus trend.
[73:46] Pam Long: And when all those people leave, they take their tax revenue with them.
[73:51] Pam Long: And so today we're going to look at seven issues, affordability, housing, transportation, taxes, public safety, energy, and education.
[73:59] Kim Monson: Okay, and you're looking at it from the supermajority and we the people, right?
[74:05] Pam Long: So let's look at affordability.
[74:08] Pam Long: We have this bizarre affordability concept by the supermajority that instead of looking at how to reduce costs, which is how most people think of affordability, the supermajority has embraced this climatology religion that you've talked about in the first hour, which is really hoodwinking people to believe that solar and wind can replace, you know, natural gas and oil in our coal plants.
[74:40] Pam Long: And the data absolutely does not support that.
[74:44] Pam Long: And so you have Governor Polis, who started 2025 in the state address, saying really bizarre things about affordability.
[74:50] Pam Long: Quote, our housing and transit goals go hand in hand with our climate goals and our affordability goals.
[74:58] Pam Long: more, better, less expensive transit options with housing closer to job centers and transit hubs save money and mean less pollution and congestion.
[75:08] Pam Long: This is really a disingenuous way to say for cities to create high density housing near unreliable light rail stations in urban areas while villainizing cars, gasoline, and single family homes in the suburbs.
[75:23] Pam Long: And Polis thinks that everyone wants to live in a condo by a light rail station, while the government is spending millions on a failing health care system and a declining education system.
[75:33] Pam Long: Nowhere in there reduces costs, which is a key component of affordability.
[75:39] Pam Long: So compare that to we the people and how we defined affordability by reducing costs.
[75:47] Pam Long: The average colorado spent 10 451 more dollars per year to consume the same quantity of goods and services than they did in 2019.
[75:57] Pam Long: Again, this is absolutely to put the blame on the super majority.
[76:04] Pam Long: These costs have increased dramatically.
[76:06] Pam Long: The average housing costs in Colorado increased 214 percent from 21 to 23..
[76:15] Pam Long: Homeless, crime, immigration, all of those problems over the past few years under the supermajority caused this mass migration out of the states, causing sales tax revenue stagnation.
[76:27] Pam Long: And as you've already discussed, this whole climatology and green energy push is going to potentially just triple the rate of electricity prices in the next few years.
[76:41] Pam Long: It's just going to get out of control.
[76:46] Kim Monson: But they talk about affordability, and as I've been driving around, these industrial apartment complexes are everywhere.
[76:54] Kim Monson: And we've been sold that there's a shortage of housing.
[76:59] Kim Monson: And I do not see how there are people that are going to live in all of these apartment buildings that are being built.
[77:08] Kim Monson: And they're receiving, again, favorable treatment from the government to do so, favorable financing.
[77:15] Kim Monson: We can see it depends on the municipality, maybe favorable permitting.
[77:21] Kim Monson: And these look to me like communists, like Soviet Russia, many of these apartment complexes.
[77:32] Kim Monson: But I'm seeing them everywhere, and I'm calling them industrial apartment buildings.
[77:38] Kim Monson: And I'm really concerned about that.
[77:43] Pam Long: And you're not the only one thinking that way.
[77:45] Pam Long: So we, the people, our approach to housing is most of our housing is built in the suburbs.
[77:52] Pam Long: We're talking like two-thirds of our housing is built in the suburbs and away from rail and transit.
[77:59] Pam Long: And Polis wants to flip that.
[78:01] Pam Long: And we even have our, some local governments are just saying they will not comply with these high-density goals because of a few factors.
[78:10] Pam Long: One, it is unachievable that we don't have the infrastructure to support it.
[78:15] Pam Long: and that it drastically changes the character of the local communities, and it's a total undermining of local control.
[78:24] Pam Long: Our Westminster city councilors are right in line with what you're thinking, Kim.
[78:29] Pam Long: Let me read a quote from Westminster.
[78:32] Pam Long: A city councilor took the figure that an indication that Soviet-style apartment blocks could be in the offing with this request to build 50,000 units of high-density housing.
[78:42] Pam Long: And she said, I want to know who the state thinks is going to live in these 50,000 units, said Council Member Kristen Ireland.
[78:51] Pam Long: Everyone's going to flee the state in droves because people want single family homes, she added.
[78:57] Pam Long: That's why people are leaving the state.
[78:59] Pam Long: They don't want to live in apartments from birth to death.
[79:02] Pam Long: I saw this stuff in Russia and it was built under Lenin, end quote.
[79:06] Pam Long: Like the people are not demanding high density housing.
[79:12] Pam Long: It's the supermajority, and what they call it, their term for it is transit-oriented development, or TOD.
[79:19] Pam Long: And this is very authoritarian.
[79:20] Pam Long: This is not something that we the people voted for in some type of democratic process.
[79:27] Pam Long: And what they're calling for are more duplexes, townhomes, and these things called ADUs, accessory dwelling units.
[79:35] Pam Long: Think of like a tiny home or like a shed in your parents' backyard.
[79:43] Pam Long: And they use terms, the super majority uses terms that sound so pleasant, like we're making our communities walkable and affordable housing and transit friendly.
[79:55] Pam Long: It's another way we are hoodwinking the public.
[79:59] Pam Long: And this vision goes along with their climate change agenda with language, and they use these metaphors of our cities being gardens and we need to remove the weeds.
[80:09] Pam Long: The weeds are cars in parking lots, which are essential to modern society.
[80:16] Pam Long: And they're just showing in every piece of legislation that the supermajority has just truly a disdain for the suburban lifestyle with single-dwelling homes, with backyards, with your personal vehicle.
[80:29] Pam Long: And Denver and some of the other surrounding cities are banning the creation of new gas stations and parking lots.
[80:37] Pam Long: Like this is a war on personal and private car mobility.
[80:44] Kim Monson: Yeah, the freedom of mobility and the freedom to own a home.
[80:49] Kim Monson: And Colorado is at the tip of the spear.
[80:52] Kim Monson: And I just 50,000, really 50,000 new units just in Westminster.
[81:01] Kim Monson: So is the end game, then, ultimately that to get rid of all of our single family homes and move all of us into those, into those Soviet block style apartment buildings.
[81:17] Kim Monson: I know that's subjective, but man, that sure seems like that's what they're looking on trying to do.
[81:25] Pam Long: When you take all of this information together, you do start asking those questions because you're talking about investing millions in these high-density housing units and then potentially combined with these energy goals, which are completely unachievable, where we won't even have enough energy in the grid to supply our homes after you shut down coal plants and you ban natural gas.
[81:48] Pam Long: And then what do you have to do?
[81:50] Pam Long: You have to match the supply and demand.
[81:54] Pam Long: Those are projections for our energy costs, where people who did want to live in the suburb and want to have their own home are priced out by the energy prices.
[82:05] Pam Long: That is what all of this is leading to.
[82:13] Kim Monson: And you mentioned transit-orientated development.
[82:17] Kim Monson: When I was on city council, they were referring to these as TODs.
[82:23] Kim Monson: So this was back in 2012 that this agenda was happening.
[82:29] Kim Monson: And before we go to break, the goal is by the elites, they want to be able to ride around in their cars, but they want everybody else on transit.
[82:39] Kim Monson: But I'd seen a headline just the other day that the RTD board was having a meeting on trying to reduce drug use on trains.
[82:50] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking, well, no wonder people don't want to ride those.
[82:56] Kim Monson: And people really prefer the safety and convenience of their own personal car.
[83:04] Kim Monson: How would you like to wrap up this first point that you have in the article that will be in the newsletter?
[83:10] Pam Long: You're just seeing legislation play out that this push towards high-density housing and removal of high-density housing is a big problem.
[83:20] Pam Long: removing gas stations, cars, and parking lots from society.
[83:26] Kim Monson: And we're going to continue the discussion with Pam Long regarding the best and worst of Colorado politics 2025.
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[86:33] Kim Monson: And as I mentioned, I was out in Kiowa on Tuesday evening to testify in front of the Public Utilities Commission regarding the industrial transmission project that Xcel is, they were denied the permit by the Elbert County commissioners.
[86:53] Kim Monson: It was standing room only when I got there of the people of Elbert County making their voices heard.
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[87:43] Kim Monson: She is an author at The Kim Monson Show.
[87:46] Kim Monson: And we will be rolling out her best and worst of Colorado politics 2025 in the newsletter this weekend.
[87:54] Kim Monson: She said there's seven points that she wants to talk about.
[87:57] Kim Monson: and it's we the people versus the supermajority.
[88:01] Kim Monson: And we talked about affordability, housing, and touched on transportation, but let's delve into that just a little bit more, Pam Long.
[88:10] Pam Long: So the supermajority has decided that Coloradans should spend millions of dollars investing in RTD, Rapid Transit District, and high-density housing near public transportation.
[88:21] Pam Long: And overwhelmingly, people do not want this.
[88:23] Pam Long: People like the suburbs for a variety of reasons, including affordability, having a little elbow room with their neighbors, quietness, safety, and park.
[88:32] Pam Long: So, again, no one voted for this.
[88:34] Pam Long: This is the supermajority deciding what you want, telling you what you want.
[88:40] Pam Long: And so the data on RTD is just really alarming.
[88:44] Pam Long: So its budget has been climbing as ridership has fallen between 2019 and 2022.
[88:51] Pam Long: Ridership fell 46%, while its operating budget increased 3%.
[88:57] Pam Long: has a proposed$ 1 billion budget for 2024, and fares are only covering 4.
[89:07] Pam Long: So, again, this is another, just like renewable energy, this is another government-subsidized program.
[89:12] Pam Long: We, the people, are subsidizing a system that the supermajority wants at our financial expense and physical safety, as you mentioned.
[89:21] Pam Long: Many people are rejecting this public transportation because crime at Colorado air, bus, and train terminals has spiked.
[89:36] Pam Long: Between 2019 and 2023, violent crime rose 53%, which includes 300%rise in murder, 86% risein aggravated assault, 32% rise innonconsensual sexual assault, and a 32% rise in robbery.
[89:45] Pam Long: And the number of drug violations at these terminals also rose by 248% between 2019 and 2023.
[89:53] Pam Long: We the people views transportation completely differently.
[89:57] Pam Long: We value our privately owned vehicles.
[90:02] Pam Long: Light rail is a step backwards.
[90:07] Pam Long: It is not cost effective transportation.
[90:09] Pam Long: Let me share you someone's personal story as reported in Westward.
[90:14] Pam Long: There's a woman named Sandra Mader who has three jobs.
[90:19] Pam Long: She's completely reliant on RTD and public transportation.
[90:25] Pam Long: every dayto getto work on time, walk 20 minutes to catch a bus, and then to light rail.
[90:30] Pam Long: She waits another 25 minutes.
[90:32] Pam Long: She sits there for one to two hours because light rail is so problematic that there's continuous stops and delays, sometimes 15 minutes, sometimes 30 minutes, sometimes an hour.
[90:47] Pam Long: And so oftentimes she reports that she has to get off at a station and take an Uber, which is what?
[90:58] Pam Long: And so this is the reality of transportation that the supermajority wants to push everyone into very unreliable transportation.
[91:07] Pam Long: And I would dare say not cost effective, It's not saving people money.
[91:13] Pam Long: And we, the people, would like to keep our cars in our parking lots and our own personal decision- making on getting to workon time and keeping our jobs.
[91:23] Kim Monson: And our quote from Thomas Jefferson regarding time, just think of the amount of time that she is having to dedicate to just trying to get to work, but it's time away from her family and her friends.
[91:40] Kim Monson: And it takes away so much freedom there.
[91:44] Kim Monson: Did you say that the fare revenue only covers 4% of their budget now?
[91:55] Pam Long: There is a stat that says RTD is estimated at the cost of$ 72 million per mile of rail.
[92:04] Pam Long: Every mile of rail costs$ 72 million.
[92:12] Kim Monson: And the other thing is, is under a communist model, and I know it's strong to say the word communist, but it's a wealth transfer.
[92:23] Kim Monson: It's taking wealth or it's taking resources from one person to give to another.
[92:31] Kim Monson: Of course, the PBIs, you know, they're in control of everything and they take money off of that.
[92:36] Kim Monson: But when I was on city council, that number was, I think, more like 8% to 10%.
[92:44] Kim Monson: And you mentioned that we, the people, are backfilling that.
[92:47] Kim Monson: But one of the big things is the RTD sales tax.
[92:51] Kim Monson: And sales tax is a regressive tax because the people that can least afford it, you know, trying to make ends meet, they have to pay that tax.
[93:03] Kim Monson: And it's getting close to 10% in some municipalities when you're all infor all of the sales tax with state, RTD, and municipality.
[93:10] Kim Monson: And so people that can ill afford to be paying those taxes to subsidize RTD, they are doing that.
[93:18] Kim Monson: And it's a wealth transfer from money out of their own pocket to RTD.
[93:23] Kim Monson: And I think it's important to connect that dot, Pam.
[93:28] Pam Long: because basically what you're saying is that all of these taxes and fees are disproportionately affecting low- income families.
[93:34] Pam Long: So this whole, you know, polisand the supermajority saying that we're trying to make Colorado more affordable while, you know, creating 12 new fee enterprises.
[93:43] Pam Long: We use the word fee to avoid Tabor.
[93:48] Pam Long: This is hoodwinked on another level.
[93:50] Pam Long: And, I mean, I hate to say this, Kim, when I'm explaining this to people from outside of Colorado who have no idea what's going on in this state, this transfer of wealth, and even people in our state who do not follow Colorado politics have no idea what is going on at their state capitol.
[94:09] Pam Long: They're just trusting that people are managing government in a responsible way.
[94:12] Pam Long: I sometimes refer to this as commirato- that these policies.
[94:16] Pam Long: Once you dig into them and really look at what's going on in the massive scale of the transfer of wealth, you can- yes, communism is not too strong of a word.
[94:29] Kim Monson: Well, and I had a friend I was talking with them recently and we were talking what is happening in new york, with wealthy people voting for mundani.
[94:38] Kim Monson: Of course they used rank choice voting as well, and so that's another reason he got elected, which rank choice voting is terrible, and kin theory and companies trying to get that passed here in Colorado we were able to defeat that.
[94:52] Kim Monson: But they said that they referred to them as champagne communists.
[94:56] Kim Monson: And so they don't think that these policies are all ever going to affect them.
[95:01] Kim Monson: And they don't care about we the people.
[95:04] Kim Monson: But I thought champagne communist was a good term.
[95:11] Pam Long: And that is so telling because, you know, my main issue is medical freedom.
[95:15] Pam Long: And once a year, I really get into the weeds on economics.
[95:19] Pam Long: But when I was at the Capitol a few years ago on a very controversial bill to remove vaccine exemptions prior to the pandemic, one of these Democratic supermajority elected officials, a champagne communist, she told me, hey, people like you and I know how to get around these things, Pam.
[95:40] Pam Long: You know, like, like, like, yeah, we're going to pass this bill and you didn't ask for it.
[95:46] Pam Long: It's not constituent driven.
[95:48] Pam Long: We're going to take your rights away.
[95:50] Pam Long: And we know how to get around it.
[95:52] Pam Long: That is very much a real attitude amongst these people in the supermajority.
[95:56] Pam Long: And again, champagne communists are trying to control our lives.
[96:03] Kim Monson: We're going to go to break and then come back and continue with this.
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[100:00] Kim Monson: The high points on this article, Pam, so what's the next thing regarding the best and worst of Colorado politics 2025, we the people versus the supermajority with Pam Long?
[100:10] Kim Monson: So what's the next thing we want to talk about?
[100:15] Pam Long: The supermajority believes in increasing taxes to overspend, big government.
[100:20] Pam Long: And we the people, we believe in reducing taxes in small government.
[100:24] Pam Long: And so we started 2025 in Colorado with a$ 1.
[100:29] Pam Long: And Democrats will tell you that this is Tabor's fault.
[100:32] Pam Long: Tabor is a law from 1992, and it's basically a government spending cap based on population and inflation.
[100:40] Pam Long: It is not now the problem.
[100:41] Pam Long: The problem is overspending.
[100:44] Pam Long: What happened was the state took a bunch of federal funding during COVID and put it towards reoccurring expenses, and now the federal funding is gone, and they have funded projects, mostly in education, that they don't have money to fund anymore, these little pet projects.
[101:01] Pam Long: There's some other, you know, inflation plays a factor, a loss of revenue to the tax loopholes this supermajority created in overspending.
[101:14] Pam Long: 60%of voters approve of Tabor, by the way.
[101:16] Pam Long: So I don't think this messaging is really resonating with people.
[101:20] Pam Long: And every bill that Republicans, there were many.
[101:24] Pam Long: I don't have time to go into all of them, but the Colorado Senate Republicans put forth a package of bills for to get rid of all the fees, you know, that would save families forty five hundred dollars a year.
[101:37] Pam Long: And then another package of bills that would have saved taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars in tax relief by cutting the income tax rate and exempting Social Security and retirement benefits.
[101:48] Pam Long: All of these measures fail.
[101:49] Pam Long: So, again, it is disingenuous for the supermajority.
[101:54] Pam Long: Remember this going into an election year voters to say that they're trying to save you money.
[102:00] Pam Long: They vote no on every tax relief and fee repeal bill that is offered in the legislature.
[102:05] Pam Long: And those things would have made life more affordable.
[102:09] Kim Monson: And Tabor is actually an amendment to the Constitution that was passed by the people in 1992.
[102:15] Kim Monson: and one of the things that Colorado Union of Taxpayers is that is one of the, our mission is to protect TABOR, which is Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, and this is going to be a big year because I think it was Representative Junie Joseph, I think.
[102:36] Kim Monson: I can't remember, but they are going to go after TABOR in 2026, so it's important to know that.
[102:42] Kim Monson: What's the next thing that people need to be aware of?
[102:46] Pam Long: Public safety is absolutely a factor in Colorado.
[102:50] Pam Long: You won't hear it on the news, but it's so Colorado has drastically increased in crime since 2021.
[102:57] Pam Long: We have the eighth highest violent crime rate in the United States.
[103:01] Pam Long: We have the fourth highest property crime rate in the nation, and we rank four for highest auto theft in the nation.
[103:07] Pam Long: So all during 2025, you saw these little headlines saying, you know, crime is decreasing and we're still terrible.
[103:13] Pam Long: Like, if you're, you know, let me tell you some other stats that CrimeGrade.
[103:17] Pam Long: orggave Denver a rare F rating.
[103:21] Pam Long: The rate of crime is much higher than the average U.
[103:25] Pam Long: It places Denver in the first percentile for safety.
[103:28] Pam Long: That means 99% ofcities are safer and 1% of citiesare more dangerous.
[103:33] Pam Long: We are now considered the likes of Chicago, New York, and Los Angeles.
[103:39] Pam Long: So anytime you see a headline that says crime's getting better, maybe by 1%, but not insignificant because the supermajority is soft on crime.
[104:02] Pam Long: We, the people, we're going to have to bypass the legislature.
[104:10] Pam Long: Like Advance Colorado was successful last year with two ballot initiatives and proposal, Prop 130 to, you know, investing, equipping our law enforcement officers in Prop 128, which would require convicted felons to serve 85% of their sentences.
[104:10] Pam Long: We have a huge problem with violent repeat offenders being released or not serving any jail time.
[104:15] Pam Long: And we just had some horrific tragedies here in Colorado this year with repeat offenders.
[104:20] Pam Long: carjackings, killing families, stabbing.
[104:24] Pam Long: Four people stabbed in what used to be the biggest hot spot in Denver, the 16th Street Mall.
[104:34] Pam Long: Venezuelan gangs took over apartment buildings.
[104:36] Pam Long: And thank God, the Trump administration was put in place this year and we were able to get ICE to get in there to remove and arrest people.
[104:46] Pam Long: We're talking drug dealers, traffickers, weapon dealers.
[104:49] Pam Long: Hundreds of people were arrested in Colorado this year.
[104:55] Pam Long: After the supermajority, let it just run the cities of Colorado for years.
[104:59] Kim Monson: Well, and that is one of the real responsibilities of government is to protect our property rights.
[105:09] Kim Monson: And one of the ways to do that is to don't let criminals take away our property or take away our lives.
[105:17] Kim Monson: And so public safety is so important.
[105:20] Kim Monson: And what about what's our next item that you want to talk about?
[105:23] Pam Long: Number six is energy, which I think your first hour really covered that, you know, basically the supermajority has all these insane goals to end electricity for Colorado in 2030 and 2040 to go to 100 percent renewable energy.
[105:38] Pam Long: This is not this is not based in reality.
[105:42] Pam Long: This is just, you know, anytime they talk about, you know, emissions and numbers, they're talking about modeling.
[105:47] Pam Long: They're not talking about real data, just like the entire pandemic was based off of faulty modeling that we were all going to die.
[105:54] Pam Long: The whole climate change agenda is based off of modeling, not real numbers.
[105:58] Pam Long: And so we, the people, we believe in not stressing our electrical grid, not closing plants, coal plants, and not relying on unreliable, inefficient, unaffordable energy.
[106:11] Pam Long: and weather- dependent renewable energy sourcesare just not the solution.
[106:18] Pam Long: They have a lot of transmission bottlenecks.
[106:21] Pam Long: We went even a step further in, I think, insanity this year.
[106:25] Pam Long: We passed a bill here, 25- 1040, that declared thatnuclear energy is now a clean energy resource.
[106:32] Pam Long: I mean, make it make sense for me, you know, that coal is dirty but nuclear is clean.
[106:37] Pam Long: I'm not following any logic or coherence there.
[106:41] Pam Long: The only shining hope we have is President Trump appointed Chris Wright from Colorado as our energy secretary, and he is an all of the above.
[106:51] Pam Long: Let's not be shutting down any forms of energy.
[106:54] Kim Monson: Yes, and no special treatment regarding energy sources as well.
[106:59] Kim Monson: And I think you referred to electricity, what it is.
[107:02] Kim Monson: It's a real war on oil, natural gas and coal, which is going to make electricity unaffordable.
[107:07] Kim Monson: So let's talk about the last thing.
[107:11] Kim Monson: We've got just a few minutes left regarding education.
[107:13] Pam Long: So for years, the supermajority in here in Colorado has been focused on what we call non- instructional categories.
[107:21] Pam Long: We're talkingabout DEI in colleges.
[107:23] Pam Long: You know, Boulder was forced to remove the DEI program and act like it never happened.
[107:29] Pam Long: All gender restrooms has made national news here in Colorado.
[107:33] Pam Long: and students choosing their names has been a huge distraction here in Colorado and our schools from actual education, right?
[107:44] Pam Long: So what's been happening is for four consecutive years, we have been losing students in our public school system.
[107:53] Pam Long: A steep drop of 30, 000 students in 2021,and it just keeps getting worse while our math and reading for 9th, 10th, and 11th graders continues to decline.
[108:01] Pam Long: We're spending more money on less students to get worse outcomes.
[108:05] Pam Long: So we, the people, will continue to trend away from traditional public schools for homeschools and charter schools, with better outcomes with less funding.
[108:13] Kim Monson: So this is such an important piece that you've written.
[108:22] Kim Monson: And how would you wrap all this up for us, Pam Long?
[108:26] Kim Monson: And I think before we do that, I think we might have a quick question.
[108:32] Kim Monson: She said, were you aware regarding the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment on rulemaking regarding new guidelines from the, I think, the Academy of Pediatrics?
[108:46] Kim Monson: Is that something you've been watching?
[108:52] Pam Long: So what is happening is the American Academy of Pediatrics is saying, We no longer follow the CDC because the CDC is making changes.
[109:01] Pam Long: It's not recommending sexually transmitted disease vaccines like the Hep C vaccine for newborns anymore, which is overdue by, you know, like two decades, right?
[109:10] Pam Long: This is bad vaccination policy.
[109:11] Pam Long: So how Colorado is responding is saying we will no longer follow the CDC's guidance.
[109:17] Pam Long: It used to be the Holy Grail and do everything they say without questioning.
[109:23] Pam Long: But now since they're actually getting, you know, good policy in place that we're going to follow the American Academy of Pediatrics.
[109:29] Pam Long: So if you want to, you know, dissent to that decision, go to the CDPG's website where you can see there's a sign up form for December 17th to tell the Board of Health, like, we want good vaccination policy.
[109:42] Pam Long: And we support the changes that are happening, not recommending COVID vaccines to children.
[109:48] Pam Long: There's no evidence to support it.
[109:51] Pam Long: not giving STD vaccines to newborns on the first day of life.
[109:55] Pam Long: There's been a lot of good change based on real data.
[109:57] Pam Long: But of course, you know, vaccines are very profitable and public health gets millions of dollars for every vaccine that people take.
[110:05] Pam Long: So, you know, there's a conflict of interest there.
[110:08] Kim Monson: And again, we're just about out of time.
[110:12] Kim Monson: And you said this is December 17th.
[110:13] Pam Long: The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment under the Board of health.
[110:19] Pam Long: They have a posted meeting.
[110:20] Pam Long: And I can send you a link as well, Kim.
[110:23] Kim Monson: And we'll get that into the summary then.
[110:25] Kim Monson: So Pam Long, we're out of time, but this is such an important piece.
[110:30] Kim Monson: And I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas, Happy Advent, and a prosperous 2026.
[110:35] Kim Monson: And we are in the fight and we're going to continue on, my friend.
[110:41] Pam Long: And Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you too.
[110:43] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is from thomas jefferson.
[110:46] Kim Monson: He said the issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history: whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.
[110:56] Kim Monson: So, my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and, like superman, stand for truth, justice and the american way.
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