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[03:01] Marshall Dawson: Today's word of the day is going to be kind of unusual.
[03:09] Marshall Dawson: This is a French phrase borrowed into English, so we treat it like a noun.
[03:19] Marshall Dawson: space, D apostrophe, E with a circumflex, T-R-E, raison d'etre.
[03:27] Marshall Dawson: And I chose this, Kathy is looking at me like, what the heck are you doing to me here?
[03:31] Marshall Dawson: I chose this as well as the quote in honor of our guest today, because raison d'etre is your reason for being, your reason for existence.
[03:40] Marshall Dawson: It's the fundamental purpose of the justification, the reason why you exist.
[03:46] Marshall Dawson: Kennedy, who was our 35th president, born May 29, 1917, in Massachusetts, also uncle to RFK Jr., the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
[04:01] Marshall Dawson: Kennedy said, efforts and courage are not enough without purpose and direction.
[04:10] Marshall Dawson: Well, let's think about some things that happened on this day before we get to the headlines.
[04:16] Marshall Dawson: On this day in 1856, Frank Baum was born, author of Wonderful Wizard of Oz.
[04:26] Marshall Dawson: In 1933, the first voice amplification system was used in the U.S. Senate.
[04:33] Marshall Dawson: And I think there must be a bad joke in there someplace, but I just don't quite know what it is.
[04:41] Marshall Dawson: 99 years ago today, 1927, right here in Colorado, Lou Ella Perkable, sometimes known as Perky the Plucky, became Colorado's first woman parachutist.
[04:55] Marshall Dawson: There were 60,000 spectators from City Park to Thaven Field, which was kind of up near 52nd and Colorado Avenue, and they watched her jump out of an airplane and parachute back down to Earth.
[05:10] Marshall Dawson: I don't know if that's necessarily a win for women, but I'm sure it was quite the spectacle back in the day.
[05:23] Marshall Dawson: Democrats would give up black voting power to beat the GOP.
[05:28] Marshall Dawson: Many Democrats want their party leaders to fight back hard, even if it means breaking up districts designed to protect the power of black voters and minority communities.
[05:38] Marshall Dawson: 45% of Dems say keep the black seats even if it limits Democrats.
[05:48] Marshall Dawson: And let's see, 32, oh I'm sorry, 45% said that, that they don't care about the black voters and the black districts.
[05:58] Marshall Dawson: 32% say keep the black seats even if it limits Democrat power.
[06:06] Marshall Dawson: You know, I've been thinking about this whole redistricting effort for quite some time and the blue states who are wanting to exert their will onto the rest of the country.
[06:17] Marshall Dawson: It occurs to me that the progressives actually got rid of something that would have done that, which happened when the 17th Amendment passed.
[06:26] Marshall Dawson: And now, of course, legislatures don't get to choose their senators.
[06:38] Marshall Dawson: RFK Jr. says SSRI withdrawal worse than heroin rolls out de-prescribing initiative during emotional summit.
[06:51] Marshall Dawson: RFK Jr. announced a sweeping new initiative earlier this week to reduce what he characterizes as over-prescription SSRIs and other psychotropic medications, especially for children.
[07:02] Marshall Dawson: Psychiatric medications have a role in care, but we need to no longer treat them as the default.
[07:18] Cathy Russell: Once I was feeling blue, went to the doctor, and without any questions at all, they just prescribed some antidepressants.
[07:27] Cathy Russell: And then years later, I was in a neurobiology class and learned that a lot of these serotonin antidepressants on serotonin, it was really strange because 95% of the serotonin in your body goes to your digestive system.
[07:44] Cathy Russell: And the realization that they didn't even know how serotonin reuptake inhibitors actually worked.
[07:53] Cathy Russell: And I'm glad that RFK is being cautious about this.
[07:59] Marshall Dawson: Well, you also said that this plan is going to be rolled out by HHS, emphasizing deprescribing by helping patients taper off medications when they are not providing clear therapeutic benefit.
[08:16] Cathy Russell: There's so many, like, exercises so much more effective in many, many, many cases.
[08:27] Marshall Dawson: Senator Pei will be withheld during shutdowns, and this will only happen after the midterms, of course.
[08:32] Marshall Dawson: This was something that John Kennedy from Louisiana put forward.
[08:46] Marshall Dawson: I think we finally embarrassed them enough that they've made it happen.
[08:51] Marshall Dawson: This will only take place after the midterms, of course.
[08:57] Marshall Dawson: The constitutionality of not paying them is kind of a problem.
[09:01] Marshall Dawson: So the way that they're going to get around this is the resolution will direct the Secretary of the Senate to disperse and then hold any payments until after the shutdown ends.
[09:24] Marshall Dawson: Another thing that I wanted to mention, you know, I'm a big fan of radio, as you know.
[09:28] Marshall Dawson: And one week from today, CBS News Radio is going to go silent.
[09:43] Marshall Dawson: And some of the listeners may know that Audacity went through bankruptcy and is now owned by George Soros and the Soros Fund Management.
[09:56] Marshall Dawson: I'm always a little bit suspicious with anything having to do with George Soros, what his motivations are.
[10:03] Marshall Dawson: I don't know if you have any thoughts on that one, Kathy.
[10:07] Cathy Russell: You know, I think he has good intentions and...
[10:10] Cathy Russell: It seems like his empire is so big that things have gotten out of hand.
[10:20] Marshall Dawson: Well, I do have to say that one of my favorite radio stations in Kansas City, the one that I always tune into when I'm driving through there, is an Odyssey station.
[10:28] Marshall Dawson: So I kind of have to hold my nose a little bit, even though I love listening to it.
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[14:51] Marshall Dawson: And we have joining us for the show, we have Mike Rawluk.
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[15:09] Marshall Dawson: We have Cathy Russell in studio with us, so I'll invite her to chime in as well.
[15:23] Mike Rawluk: And as we come to the close of the legislative season, all kinds of new bills to unpack.
[15:29] Mike Rawluk: But something very interesting, I think, in Jeffco, next Tuesday, we have a new moratorium on data centers, and it's actually being reheard on Tuesday.
[15:48] Mike Rawluk: Right now in the 60-day moratorium, they would only allow a data center application to proceed if it's within 1,500 feet or further away from a home.
[15:58] Mike Rawluk: And they want to have the conversation about water and electricity.
[16:02] Mike Rawluk: And I think it's pretty interesting because as we start seeing the data center situation, kind of that fight, that land use fight across the country, I think it's a pretty proactive step to say, if we need them, how do we do it?
[16:16] Mike Rawluk: And how do we do it with the infrastructure?
[16:18] Mike Rawluk: So, you know, in the land use world, instead of having something come in and then everybody fighting about it and wasting tons of time and resource and effort, I think it's smart to take a look at these things and say, if it's a good business strategy, where do we put it?
[16:34] Mike Rawluk: And how do we come up with the rules prior?
[16:37] Marshall Dawson: Mike, I wonder if you know, with modern data centers, how much water do they actually consume and, I guess, expel as part of their cooling?
[16:49] Marshall Dawson: I was involved on completely the opposite end of this whole industry, so I don't know much about the data center build-out.
[17:02] Mike Rawluk: I was looking into them, and some can use hundreds of thousands of gallons per day.
[17:06] Mike Rawluk: And then some have complete or mostly complete water recapture systems.
[17:13] Mike Rawluk: Ship manufacturers are getting into that as well.
[17:16] Mike Rawluk: And I think I talked about Micron before up in Boise.
[17:20] Mike Rawluk: They built a huge ship plant, but they're now recapturing about 80% of the water used for cooling and such, recycling it and using it again.
[17:29] Mike Rawluk: And that was part of the deal for Boise to sign off.
[17:32] Mike Rawluk: on such a thing because of the critical nature of water.
[17:37] Mike Rawluk: So there are ways to recapture it and use it again on site.
[17:42] Marshall Dawson: Yeah, and I'm sure that electricity is going to be a big part of this discussion.
[17:47] Marshall Dawson: You know, I can't imagine that we have nearly the power available, especially here in Colorado, for being able to drive these data centers like we want to.
[17:55] Mike Rawluk: Right, and the thing there, too, is we've seen stories in places like West Virginia where all of a sudden the average citizen is like,
[18:04] Mike Rawluk: It's like, oh, because we put a bunch of data centers here, and you're going to help foot their bill.
[18:09] Mike Rawluk: If it's a private enterprise that wants to come in and make some money in the area, they should be able to put in their own infrastructure.
[18:17] Mike Rawluk: I know certain housing projects have to do that, where Excel will say, okay, it's a million dollars a mile for us to pull this whole new line to the area, and this is how many miles it's going to be, and here's the bill.
[18:30] Mike Rawluk: And I would just hope that the data center or related business, whether it's crypto mining, what have you, would be able to then foot their own bill to get their own service up.
[18:39] Marshall Dawson: And thinking about the setbacks, I've seen videos talking about lots of effects that can come off of data centers, whether it's noise or maybe it's electromagnetic as well.
[19:00] Mike Rawluk: Well, the current setback that's being considered, yes, would be 1,500 feet.
[19:04] Mike Rawluk: And before that, they didn't have really any setbacks at all.
[19:07] Mike Rawluk: Arvada says 300 feet from a residential zone district.
[19:11] Mike Rawluk: And we had talked with Arvada by saying, look, you know, your mixed-use districts aren't residential zones.
[19:17] Mike Rawluk: You might want to look at the setbacks from a residence because you're going to have situations where you have a district that's not quite zoned residence but has residential.
[19:27] Mike Rawluk: And as far as the actual low-frequency noise kind of –
[19:32] Mike Rawluk: There's lipid profiles that can change within your blood.
[19:35] Mike Rawluk: There's a mental health issue that can happen and also cardiac.
[19:40] Mike Rawluk: They've been finding new cardiac issues and just general overall immune response.
[19:44] Mike Rawluk: So now you've got a situation where, again, you know, data center might be useful, but if it's too close to homes, what have you, and then you're actually causing, you know, pain for somebody else and
[19:56] Mike Rawluk: As far as property rights, though, if they were there first and now they're getting impacted, that kind of flies in the face of private property rights if your stuff is getting over your property line.
[20:06] Mike Rawluk: And it's just about trying to figure that out.
[20:07] Mike Rawluk: With the low-frequency noise, when we looked into microphones, a lot of basic decibel meters don't catch the ultra-low-frequency noise, the 20 to the 500 hertz.
[20:17] Mike Rawluk: And so some folks are even talking about using some form of seismograph, what have you.
[20:22] Mike Rawluk: It's kind of an evolving science as far as I know, unless we've got experts that are listening in, which I'd love to learn more.
[20:28] Mike Rawluk: But it looks like the determination about LF noise has got to get done in a different way as well.
[20:42] Marshall Dawson: It's just making sure that we're doing things in a responsible manner.
[20:55] Mike Rawluk: When it comes to property rights, it's got to be a complete discussion.
[20:58] Mike Rawluk: Even thinking about one of my favorite economists, Milton Friedman, it's the idea of
[21:04] Mike Rawluk: If I'm doing something that gets over my property line onto yours, then it's your discussion, whether it's water, air, noise, traffic, things like that that are going to impede you or cause you to have to spend more taxes for infrastructure, more fees for infrastructure.
[21:22] Mike Rawluk: Now I'm impeding you, even though I'm on my property.
[21:28] Marshall Dawson: Another thought that occurred to me is when you said experts.
[21:31] Marshall Dawson: I'm getting to where I'm skeptical of just about anyone who holds themselves out as an expert.
[21:38] Marshall Dawson: Not that they're, you know, not capable of coming up with expert opinions, but experts are usually paid by somebody, right?
[21:52] Marshall Dawson: And, you know, I have an engineering background, lots of mathematics, so, you know, I can come to my own opinion on those things.
[22:04] Mike Rawluk: And, you know, last night I actually sat in on the Arvada Urban Renewal Authority meeting.
[22:11] Mike Rawluk: And Rebecca Loveson, the city council member, was there.
[22:14] Mike Rawluk: You know, great friendship with her, even if we disagree on certain issues.
[22:17] Mike Rawluk: And I think that's kind of where we have to start.
[22:19] Mike Rawluk: But one thing that she has in her family is an engineering background as well.
[22:24] Mike Rawluk: And we've talked, you know, prior to the, you know, the election last year.
[22:32] Mike Rawluk: When we talk to all the candidates, we actually ask about things like, should we start having an engineering commission?
[22:37] Mike Rawluk: Because what we're finding is you might have a hearing, a quasi-judicial hearing on a rezoning.
[22:43] Mike Rawluk: You might have a planning commission who has general knowledge of land use, traffic, maybe architecture.
[22:50] Mike Rawluk: But we're missing engineers to actually hear the merits of a more difficult case.
[22:56] Mike Rawluk: And we're having an increased reliance on staff and staff alone, who's then taking the word directly from the applicant.
[23:03] Mike Rawluk: Like you said, it's a one-sided expert argument, whereas we have engineers proliferating through various groups in the areas, and we'll do analysis.
[23:15] Mike Rawluk: And then you've got this huge piece of analysis, and you're trying to get through it in three minutes.
[23:20] Mike Rawluk: And you're like, no, no, there's a lot of complicated stuff to talk about when you get into the nuance of a traffic study.
[23:26] Mike Rawluk: There's a lot of nuance when we get into drainage reports and things like that, what have you.
[23:31] Mike Rawluk: Now we're talking about low-frequency noise and the effects on humans over a property line, and you get three minutes.
[23:38] Mike Rawluk: So we're deeply concerned about the technocratic state and the decisions that are being made at the staff level and then the recommendations that go to a governing body.
[23:49] Mike Rawluk: And the governing body might say, I don't have the expertise, not like the mathematical expertise that you might have.
[23:55] Mike Rawluk: And then they say, well, I have to trust staff.
[23:59] Mike Rawluk: And they don't have a counter opinion on these things.
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[29:57] Marshall Dawson: And I mentioned earlier that I have Cathy Russell in studio with me.
[30:04] Marshall Dawson: Kathy's a mom, an evolutionary biologist, president of Liberty Toastmasters North, and that's probably why you recognize her voice.
[30:16] Marshall Dawson: I'm going to hold it up to the microphone so everyone can see it.
[30:25] Marshall Dawson: And tell us, what motivated you to sit down and write a book?
[30:30] Cathy Russell: Well, when my son, Sean, was six years old, he said, Mom, where does everything come from?
[30:35] Cathy Russell: And as an evolutionary biologist, I was so happy that he asked that question because that was my interest as well.
[30:42] Cathy Russell: But I found I didn't know anything about the Big Bang and the origin of Adam's stars.
[30:53] Cathy Russell: And what I found along the way has been just the most incredible journey.
[30:59] Cathy Russell: And I went into it thinking that the universe was in decline.
[31:04] Cathy Russell: I had all of these ideas that I had gotten through the university and that life was a little bit depressing.
[31:15] Cathy Russell: And as I started doing the research on this book, I discovered something so radically, profoundly amazing, which is that the entire universe is progressing.
[31:28] Cathy Russell: And this was thanks to the work of Eric Chaison and a whole bunch of other people.
[31:34] Cathy Russell: The more I looked into that, the more amazed I was.
[31:37] Cathy Russell: And so my motivation has just been building and building and building.
[31:44] Cathy Russell: The antidepressants that I mentioned earlier, I do not need them.
[31:51] Cathy Russell: And I've been sharing this story with people, and they love it.
[31:56] Marshall Dawson: And we should say the title, it's Evolutions Arc, the Story of Creation.
[32:07] Marshall Dawson: And I love the way that arc is used, you know, in many different ways and throughout the book.
[32:15] Marshall Dawson: And, you know, arc has a number of different definitions, right?
[32:24] Marshall Dawson: I mean, what are ways that we can use arc in the English language?
[32:31] Cathy Russell: And this was inspired by this idea that as time proceeds over the past 13.8 billion years, that there has been increasing complexity and increasing order and increasing diversity and increasing freedom and increasing consciousness.
[32:48] Cathy Russell: So that at the most basic sense, it represents this
[32:53] Cathy Russell: upward increasing line of creativity so there's a geometric arc there's also an energetic arc like with welders that's just energetic there's a moral arc and Dr. Martin Luther King famously said that the moral arc of the universe is long but it bends towards justice
[33:21] Cathy Russell: And as I've shared it with people, they are so happy about this story because it just, number one, it's evidence-based.
[33:30] Cathy Russell: It's based on the best information from complexity science, from information science, from genomics, from all this new data that we're getting.
[33:43] Marshall Dawson: Before we move on from arc, I'm looking at, I wish the listeners could see this, but I have this in front of me, and at the bottoms of each of the pages are these bright bands of colors.
[33:56] Marshall Dawson: And as I flip through the book, I can see that the bands sort of build on themselves.
[34:06] Cathy Russell: Yeah, and just for the purpose of pedagogy purposes,
[34:10] Cathy Russell: to get people through the book, there are seven arcs and each one builds on the other.
[34:15] Cathy Russell: So the first is the radiant arc, meaning the energy that emerged from the big bang.
[34:20] Cathy Russell: And then once you had energy that could drive the formation of atoms.
[34:28] Cathy Russell: And then on top of that belt, the celestial arc, once you have enough atoms to
[34:33] Cathy Russell: that can coalesce and form galaxies and stars, you have the celestial arc.
[34:37] Cathy Russell: And then once you have a planet, then you can build upon that the life arc.
[34:42] Cathy Russell: And then once you have living creatures that develop brains, you have the conscious arc.
[34:47] Cathy Russell: And then on top of that, you have societies of thinking
[34:55] Cathy Russell: And then once you have humans that can recognize the creativity of the cosmos, recognize a creator god, if you will, then they become super creative.
[35:06] Cathy Russell: And we are now in that era when people are just learning more about the world and taking that information and being incredibly creative and solving some of the biggest problems that
[35:16] Cathy Russell: My favorite problem, what killed the dinosaurs will not kill us.
[35:22] Cathy Russell: That's because we are creators and we've figured out how to deflect asteroids, which to me is amazing.
[35:30] Marshall Dawson: Yeah, I really like the underlying message within the book, or at least what I took away from it, which is that we are creators.
[35:41] Marshall Dawson: We work through these problems to come up with solutions.
[35:46] Cathy Russell: Yeah, and I think that's such an important story.
[35:49] Cathy Russell: And I was looking at the Colorado social studies curriculum a few years back when it was open to public scrutiny, and there was no mention of peace, prosperity, or progress.
[36:00] Cathy Russell: But there was all mention of war, struggle, colonization, just all the problems.
[36:06] Cathy Russell: But there was no emphasis on the solutions, and the solutions abound today.
[36:11] Cathy Russell: And so if we help our kids focus on solutions, they're going to be creating those solutions, and they're not going to be freaked out about it.
[36:32] Marshall Dawson: Or it's something that parents can share even with younger kids?
[36:38] Cathy Russell: It's the book I wish I had as a parent when my son first asked that question when he was six.
[36:43] Cathy Russell: This book is targeted towards middle school kids and up.
[36:50] Cathy Russell: But kids are, I've taught kids, middle school kids, they can, they're so incredible.
[36:59] Cathy Russell: And it may be intimidating to some parents who've never studied genetics.
[37:04] Cathy Russell: And so, yes, there's DNA in here and there's RNA and there's proteins.
[37:11] Cathy Russell: They're just curious and they want to look at it.
[37:15] Marshall Dawson: One of the things that I love about it is that we're not trying to teach kids science with this book, but we're trying to get them enamored by science.
[37:32] Marshall Dawson: you know, that the audience could see some of these illustrations.
[37:35] Marshall Dawson: I can't remember how many of your illustrations you have on the website, but it's just, you know, extraordinary, and it's really well done.
[37:48] Marshall Dawson: You know, some of the negative messages that perhaps you got when you were growing up and we're this age.
[37:55] Marshall Dawson: I think you're probably the only person who I know who, gosh, his name is escaping me, the textbook writer who's famously anti-American, anti-progress.
[38:15] Cathy Russell: He wrote The People's History of the United States.
[38:17] Cathy Russell: He's a card-carrying, he was a card-carrying communist, and he hated America.
[38:23] Cathy Russell: No, he loved America if it would shift to becoming more communist in his vision.
[38:33] Cathy Russell: So not only that, but when I was in, I was an exchange student in Germany and we learned all about the limits to growth.
[38:43] Cathy Russell: And so I was one of those early people who was like freaked out about the climate change and freaked out about humans being too many people on the planet and that humans were, I never believed humans were a cancer on the planet, but
[39:02] Cathy Russell: And today, there are so many kids who are just struggling.
[39:06] Cathy Russell: They don't want to have kids because they believe it's cruel and inhuman to bring them into the world.
[39:13] Cathy Russell: And so many people who just believe the wrong things about climate change.
[39:20] Cathy Russell: And we have totally, as a species, we have got it under control.
[39:24] Cathy Russell: And that message is not being taught to kids anymore.
[39:29] Marshall Dawson: And thinking about the positive messages some more, here's a few that I've pulled out on prosperity and enrichment, improving health, creating more with less, flourishing and environmental protection.
[39:42] Marshall Dawson: Creators create the planet and maybe we were gonna talk about that here in a little bit.
[39:47] Marshall Dawson: But it really confronts that, it confronts head on that narrative that humans are bad for the planet and it must not be touched.
[40:03] Marshall Dawson: Also, I don't know if you meant this to be all that positive, but each snowflake is unique, displaying a stunning variety of intricate patterns and structures.
[40:13] Marshall Dawson: I think it's a nice message or a nice metaphor even that each child is unique.
[40:18] Marshall Dawson: They don't have to be like their friend Frank or don't feel like you have to change your gender.
[40:31] Cathy Russell: I'm glad you mentioned that, that each person is unique.
[40:33] Cathy Russell: And when I say that, I open the book with the most important lesson.
[40:40] Cathy Russell: But people are creative in so many different ways.
[40:54] Cathy Russell: You know, like Elon Musk making rockets that will take our consciousness into the stars.
[41:04] Cathy Russell: And parents are creative when they have their kids.
[41:13] Marshall Dawson: And when we come back, I want you to tell us who Lux is.
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[44:01] Marshall Dawson: And something that should be on your bucket list is a visit to the Center for American Values located on the beautiful Riverwalk in Pueblo.
[44:09] Marshall Dawson: The Center for American Values was co-founded by Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix and Emmy Award winning documentary maker Brad Padula.
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[44:33] Marshall Dawson: And Kathy, before the break, I wanted to know who Lux is.
[44:39] Cathy Russell: Oh, Lux is the friendly guide who is a droplet of light, who's been there since the beginning.
[44:48] Cathy Russell: And my son, Sean, when he saw the early versions of the book, he said, Mom, you have to have a companion.
[44:56] Cathy Russell: And I'm so glad he said that because I love Lux.
[45:00] Cathy Russell: I don't know how it would even work without Lux.
[45:03] Cathy Russell: And then Lux plays another role of kind of being a Socratic guide-up.
[45:08] Cathy Russell: asking questions to help people think more deeply about some of the ideas that they're learning about.
[45:16] Marshall Dawson: Here on the page that I have open here, Lux is saying, cultures evolve from taking what others have to creating what others desire.
[45:27] Marshall Dawson: And I just happen to be on the culture arcs from takers to makers.
[45:33] Cathy Russell: Well, this page is really at the heart of so much that I want to say in this book.
[45:39] Cathy Russell: And it was inspired by a quotation by the economist Walter Williams who said that before capitalism...
[45:46] Cathy Russell: parenthetically capitalism is a method of creation creating value before capitalism the only way people got got wealthy was by looting stealing and enslaving their fellow humans with capitalism or with creativity with wealth creation people could become wealthy by serving their fellow humans and as we look through time we can see that they're
[46:11] Cathy Russell: is definitely this arc from people who, like when you look back, like emperors, the way that they amassed wealth was by having huge armies that would go in and just take other people's stuff.
[46:23] Cathy Russell: And then slowly through time, people realized that, oh, well, maybe we can...
[46:30] Cathy Russell: Once you've taken all their stuff and you run out of stuff, and then poverty ensues.
[46:34] Cathy Russell: And then over thousands of years, people have become creators, and that was...
[46:41] Cathy Russell: And once they started creating wealth, then the cycle increased.
[46:47] Cathy Russell: And there's been this exponential growth of humans generating new resources and new ways to serve other people.
[46:57] Cathy Russell: And to me, we're celebrating 250 years of freedom.
[47:02] Cathy Russell: And I think what the Declaration of Independence did more than anything is recognize the sovereignty of the individual
[47:10] Cathy Russell: and the virtue of individuals when they are free to create wealth.
[47:17] Cathy Russell: So that's a long way of talking about that one page.
[47:20] Marshall Dawson: Well, you reminded me of what I called Liberty Nuggets that I found in here.
[47:24] Marshall Dawson: You know, little items of wisdom and promoting liberty.
[47:33] Marshall Dawson: Your imagination is your survival power, helping you adapt to new challenges.
[47:38] Marshall Dawson: Communication liberates people from the propaganda of authoritarian tyrants.
[47:45] Marshall Dawson: And high-tech farming and tools to feed over 8 billion people and end famines.
[47:55] Marshall Dawson: I mean, that's antithetical to what we're hearing from the progressives, that we're killing the earth and we're all going to die.
[48:20] Marshall Dawson: Which flies in the face of the scientists that all, you know, those ridiculous things that we always hear from the left.
[48:30] Cathy Russell: And something that I get into a little bit in the book is the theory behind all of this.
[48:36] Cathy Russell: And that is so fascinating that evolution, whether it's of stars or, well, microbes or cultures, it's an error correction process.
[48:50] Cathy Russell: Once you have life, it's an error correction process.
[48:53] Cathy Russell: And that's exactly what Einstein is talking about.
[48:55] Cathy Russell: That if you can't, one experiment can prove you wrong.
[49:01] Cathy Russell: And that advances our understanding and our knowledge.
[49:04] Cathy Russell: And that is really what's driving this arc of improvement, of progress.
[49:09] Marshall Dawson: So we're talking to Cathy Russell, author of Evolution's Arc.
[49:18] Cathy Russell: And I'd like to just make a few points about that, that on that website, there is a parent's guide.
[49:28] Cathy Russell: And parents, you're in charge of your child's education.
[49:31] Cathy Russell: If it was up to your kids, I know Sean loved Captain Underpants.
[49:42] Cathy Russell: But part of our job as parents is to guide them into something that will serve them for their life, for their entire lives.
[49:52] Cathy Russell: So the other thing that's on the website is creators that are inspired by a cosmic narrative.
[49:58] Cathy Russell: And one of my, the first person I put on there was Maria Montessori.
[50:02] Cathy Russell: And she was the creator of the Montessori Method that has been hugely successful in
[50:14] Cathy Russell: And she had the same basic idea that the universe is progressing.
[50:24] Cathy Russell: The best part of the whole book is the last page, which
[50:27] Cathy Russell: shows all those authors and scientists and philosophers that went into creating this story.
[50:34] Cathy Russell: So if you want to learn more about that, you can go to the essential books and information on the website.
[50:40] Cathy Russell: There's also a list of discoveries, all the past several thousand years of the different people who have contributed to this.
[50:50] Cathy Russell: And then eventually I want to talk about how to become a better creator.
[50:57] Marshall Dawson: Eventually this morning or eventually like in your next book?
[51:01] Cathy Russell: I'm going to be really pushing to put more information on the website.
[51:08] Marshall Dawson: And the creator aspect of this, you know, each of us being creators was so meaningful to me.
[51:17] Marshall Dawson: Now, on page 16, you had a section of energy drives information and creation.
[51:26] Marshall Dawson: And, of course, logos being, you know, we think of Aristotle, many of us when we hear logos.
[51:37] Marshall Dawson: Do you want to talk about logos and Legos a little bit?
[51:39] Cathy Russell: Yeah, well, logos is, it goes back to Heraclitus that talked about logos, that it's the ordering principle that creates the universe.
[51:49] Cathy Russell: And then you had mathematicians like Pythagoras discovering these ratios, these divine ratios.
[51:55] Cathy Russell: And so there's, so logos is the ordering principle.
[51:59] Cathy Russell: And then the point I was trying to make with this page is that energy flow is
[52:05] Cathy Russell: is what drives the creation of new information.
[52:09] Cathy Russell: And in many ways, the logos is the information.
[52:12] Cathy Russell: And so the analogy was, is that just as a child creates new things with Legos, they take this brick and that brick and they, with energy, they put them together and create something entirely new that's
[52:27] Cathy Russell: And then it also takes energy to take those pieces apart.
[52:34] Cathy Russell: And there's a great website called informationphilosopher.com.
[52:40] Cathy Russell: And that talks about this new physics that helps us understand how everything ultimately, the physics of creation works.
[52:52] Marshall Dawson: Well, Cathy Russell, we have just about a minute and a half left.
[52:58] Marshall Dawson: Give me your call to action and be sure you give the website one more time.
[53:05] Cathy Russell: My call to action is that parents, grandparents, every adult who has a child in your life,
[53:14] Cathy Russell: My call to action is to look at the creation story that is being taught in your schools and, more importantly, to think about what it is you want your child to be learning.
[53:25] Cathy Russell: Ayn Rand talks about a philosophy of life, and the foundation of that is metaphysics, which is essentially learning.
[53:32] Cathy Russell: an origin story or a creation story that tells how everything comes to be.
[53:36] Cathy Russell: So there is nothing more important than you looking into that story and just know that if you're not teaching them the story that is going to make them feel empowered, informed, uplifted, and motivated, then they might be getting a story that is going to be demoralizing and making the dependents and essentially slaves of the state
[54:00] Cathy Russell: So to help you on that with the website, again, I have a page that's devoted to all the books that went into creating this book, and there's so many excellent ones out there.
[54:15] Cathy Russell: And then if you don't have enough time to read all those books, you can go look at evolutionsarc.com, the book, online, and there's a link, and you can see the entire contents of the book.
[54:31] Marshall Dawson: And today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way.
[54:54] Outro music bed: fast on a rough road riding high through the mountains climbing twisting turning further from my home young like a new moon rising fierce to the rain enlightening wandering out into this great unknown
[55:25] Outro music bed: And I don't want no one to cry But tell them if I don't survive
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[58:32] Marshall Dawson: It's a strange one for Kim's audience, I think, because it actually comes from French.
[58:45] Marshall Dawson: And we borrow it from the French, but we do use it in English like a noun.
[58:50] Marshall Dawson: That's R-A-I-S-O-N, space, D, apostrophe, E with a circumflex, T-R-E, raison d'etre.
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[59:19] Marshall Dawson: It's your justification, the sole reason why you feel like you exist.
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[60:14] Marshall Dawson: Deportation of Boulder attacker's family could derail federal criminal case.
[60:21] Marshall Dawson: And the Trump administration's goal of deporting the ex-wife and children of the man who carried out the anti-Semitic attack on Boulder's Pearl Street Mall last year could ultimately derail the federal criminal case against the man.
[60:33] Marshall Dawson: So I think what they're saying is that his family would be part of the defense, and if this guy is not able to mount a solid defense, then his rights will have been violated and the case will have to be dismissed.
[60:51] Marshall Dawson: So this probably hits a little bit close to home for you.
[60:53] Cathy Russell: Yeah, Boulder's just, it's sad the amount of the violence that's going on in the name of goodness, I suppose.
[61:05] Cathy Russell: But yeah, this was just a horrible attack and very destabilizing for people.
[61:11] Marshall Dawson: In other headlines, also from the Denver Post, Governor Jared Polis signs new law rewriting AI regulations targeting discrimination.
[61:21] Marshall Dawson: So this rewrites and softens a Colorado law that sought to curb discrimination through the use of artificial intelligence.
[61:32] Marshall Dawson: And it will require companies or agencies to notify job seekers, prospective college students, and people seeking bank loans if AI will be involved in weighing their applications.
[61:44] Marshall Dawson: And it's not clear what form those notifications will take.
[62:06] Marshall Dawson: In my reading yesterday, I ran across this quote from Susan B.
[62:12] Marshall Dawson: Women must not depend on the protection of a man, but must be taught to protect herself.
[62:17] Marshall Dawson: I don't know if you can offer any thoughts on that with Spartan Defense.
[62:22] Teddy Collins: I mean, we do offer training, and that statement is truer than anything else out there.
[62:27] Teddy Collins: Definitely is a good thing for females to get out there to learn, to train, to arm themselves and be able to defend themselves against an attacker.
[62:36] Teddy Collins: And the only thing that, the best thing for that is that great equalizer, the firearm.
[62:42] Marshall Dawson: And what else do you have going on at Spartan Defense these days?
[62:45] Teddy Collins: So we're one of the largest retail operations in the state.
[62:48] Teddy Collins: We carry a number of select firearms, including a lot of state exclusives.
[62:52] Teddy Collins: So we have about 28 state exclusive brands, from Cabot to Alchemy to Bull Armory, things of that nature that you generally don't find at other stores.
[63:01] Teddy Collins: We're one of the top staccato dealers in the country, as well as Atlas and Lago Alien.
[63:07] Teddy Collins: So we have a lot of very unique firearms, but we do have something for everybody.
[63:11] Teddy Collins: Whether it's a $100 firearm all the way up to a $10,000 firearm, you can find it at Spartan Defense.
[63:21] Teddy Collins: You can go to SpartanDefense.com or you can come visit us in Colorado Springs on Barnes & Tutte and check out the store in person.
[63:29] Teddy Collins: We do ship to all 50 states that are legal to ship to, as well as outlying territories and islands for the United States.
[63:36] Marshall Dawson: So I suppose if you ship to different states, then you could probably ship to Longmont.
[63:40] Marshall Dawson: I mean, if I drove down to Spartan Defense in Colorado Springs, that'd be a bit of a haul.
[63:44] Marshall Dawson: But I could probably have a firearm shipped to an FFL in Longmont.
[63:53] Teddy Collins: So if there's a lower price out there, as long as it's above our cost, we'll match or beat it.
[63:59] Teddy Collins: And everything comes with a lifetime warranty from us as well.
[64:08] Teddy Collins: So running for state senate district four, Mark Baisley's former seat, one of the largest geographical districts in the state.
[64:16] Teddy Collins: I won my primary at Assembly and just working towards the general election now in November.
[64:21] Teddy Collins: So you can find out more about the campaign at CollinsForColorado.com.
[64:26] Teddy Collins: But if you're fed up and tired of what's going on up at the Gold Dome, especially against your Second Amendment rights or any of your constitutional rights, then definitely check me out.
[64:34] Teddy Collins: Check out CollinsForColorado.com and see what the campaign's about.
[64:40] Marshall Dawson: You know, Teddy, I'm a former candidate myself, and that means that I'm always interested in what you're hearing from voters.
[64:59] Teddy Collins: Even amongst unaffiliated, people are just fed up with the direction of the state of Colorado.
[65:03] Teddy Collins: I mean, we've had close to eight years of complete Democrat control.
[65:06] Teddy Collins: And when we started that partisan control, we were one of the best states in the country.
[65:15] Teddy Collins: pure representation of what happens with complete one-party control.
[65:25] Teddy Collins: The legislators, it's time to flip the governorship and bring some sanity back to the state.
[65:29] Teddy Collins: If people are tired and fed up with the direction of our state, show it at the ballot box.
[65:37] Teddy Collins: It's time to, you know, not repeat the same thing over and expect the different results.
[65:43] Teddy Collins: It's time to vote in some conservatives to come in and fix the state.
[65:50] Marshall Dawson: And we'll hear from you next week on The Kim Monson Show.
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[70:57] Marshall Dawson: We have on the line Brandon Wark, who is founder of Free State Colorado.
[71:03] Brandon Wark: Hey, good morning, and thank you so much, Marshall, for having me on today.
[71:12] Marshall Dawson: I think as soon as I just heard your voice right now, Brandon, we should start the show or the segment with, well, hello, free people of the Rocky Mountain region.
[71:25] Brandon Wark: Yeah, we are free people and we will have a free state eventually.
[71:29] Brandon Wark: And so many great people out there are putting in the work and doing their little part of the piece of the puzzle there to
[71:35] Brandon Wark: help restore our liberty here in the Great Centennial State.
[71:39] Marshall Dawson: Well, before we get going, Brandon, what's the best way for people to find you and to find your work?
[71:45] Brandon Wark: You know, I spend most of my time on X these days.
[71:47] Brandon Wark: So if you're on X, formerly Twitter, look up Free State Colorado, but also on Facebook and YouTube.
[71:54] Brandon Wark: I have my YouTube channel there where I put out my videos, Free State Colorado.
[71:57] Brandon Wark: But freestatecalrider.com, all my videos will be linked to there, and everything I do, all the sources, all the footnotes, all of that at freestatecalrider.com.
[72:07] Marshall Dawson: I was looking through your ex-deed yesterday, and just a few of the things that showed up, either that you posted or that you reposted.
[72:15] Marshall Dawson: I wonder if we can run through just a few of these, because I suspect that you probably have opinions.
[72:30] Brandon Wark: House Bill 1033, the Tamale Act, started out as a great food freedom bill.
[72:35] Brandon Wark: And this bill is an example of how things can change so quickly at the state capitol.
[72:42] Brandon Wark: I did a video on it, posting about it, really celebrating it, encouraging people to show up and testify in support of it.
[72:48] Brandon Wark: But then the Democrat majority got their hands on it.
[72:51] Brandon Wark: And they use this bill as an opportunity to actually increase government control over the cottage food industry, instituting a stricter revenue cap, creating registration requirements.
[73:01] Brandon Wark: And ultimately, I ended up opposing the bill and spoke against it just this last week here during the last couple days of the session during the committee hearing because this bill has been changed so much.
[73:13] Brandon Wark: But the intentions, I think, originally were good to expand our food freedom around the Cottage Food Act in Colorado.
[73:20] Brandon Wark: But unfortunately, as it is so often happens, things change.
[73:24] Brandon Wark: And all of a sudden, an amendment to a bill can make it into something totally different.
[73:34] Marshall Dawson: And if voters force the state to spend road money on roads, the state will cut road taxes by the same amount and reroute the difference to the general fund.
[73:43] Marshall Dawson: I drove on some pretty crummy roads on the way down to the studio this morning, Brandon.
[73:50] Brandon Wark: You know, every single day, Coloradans are feeling and seeing and driving on the disappointments of our government, the failure of our government to meet its core obligation to keep our roads in good condition.
[74:02] Brandon Wark: You know, we're talking about our bridges, our tunnels, but specifically our roads here in Colorado.
[74:07] Brandon Wark: The people of Colorado want our transportation taxes to go to fixing our roads, not to all of these other projects that don't have anything to do with it.
[74:15] Brandon Wark: So there's a citizen-led ballot initiative right now
[74:18] Brandon Wark: going through that people are signing up at outside of grocery stores, as often is the case, to force our government to spend the transportation tax money on fixing the dang roads.
[74:28] Brandon Wark: Unfortunately, though, these wily legislators in our state government said, not so fast, people of Colorado.
[74:37] Brandon Wark: So 1430 was a bill that was introduced just in the last couple weeks of the legislative session with the entire intention of subverting the citizen-led ballot measure.
[74:47] Brandon Wark: to say, hey, listen, people, if the people of Colorado decide to tell us what to do, we're going to rig the system.
[74:53] Brandon Wark: We're going to move some money around like a shell game and say, nope, we're going to do what we want with this money.
[74:58] Brandon Wark: You, the people of Colorado, don't have a choice.
[75:01] Brandon Wark: And it's an extremely egregious marshal, so I'm really glad you brought that up.
[75:05] Marshall Dawson: It's almost like the Democrats don't believe in democracy.
[75:09] Marshall Dawson: All right, Brandon, I'm going to throw you a curveball here because you posted this on X
[75:17] Marshall Dawson: So now I'm gonna ask you, Brendan, what are your thoughts?
[75:20] Marshall Dawson: This was from KRDO, Colorado Springs are now using drones as first responders to combat illegal street racing and parking lot takeovers.
[75:32] Brandon Wark: You know, Marshall, this surveillance state that's being built around us and the cameras, we see them every day, this flock systems, now drones and the potential for facial recognition systems are getting a lot of people in Colorado
[75:44] Brandon Wark: very cautious about where this is going, like you said.
[75:47] Brandon Wark: Of course, nobody likes the illegal street racers, these dangerous kids who are driving late at night and waking everybody up, but also putting lives at risk.
[75:58] Brandon Wark: But at the same time, now that we're having drones flying around our communities, keeping an eye on things and going after people, there's some serious concerns there that this could go bad really quickly.
[76:08] Brandon Wark: This is going to be one of the biggest topics, I think, in Colorado and really across the country going forward is what do we do about all these cameras?
[76:18] Brandon Wark: What do we do about the government just creating this system in which every move we make is surveilled and monitored?
[76:24] Brandon Wark: You know, we and we have a crime problem here in Colorado.
[76:27] Brandon Wark: We're kind of in a pickle here because there's so much crime.
[76:30] Brandon Wark: There's so many bad policies that let criminals back out on the streets.
[76:35] Brandon Wark: Well, I don't know if the right answer is to put cameras on every street corner and start flying drones around, keeping an eye out for everything.
[76:41] Brandon Wark: So there's got to be some serious concerns.
[76:45] Brandon Wark: We need the police to use the latest technology to go after the bad guys.
[76:51] Brandon Wark: It's a term you always hear at the legislature, some strict guardrails to ensure this technology is not being abused and that it's conducted with the utmost transparency.
[77:00] Marshall Dawson: Well, great job discussing the risk versus reward on that.
[77:11] Marshall Dawson: How about we talk about COCO, you know, this train idea when we come back.
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[82:40] Marshall Dawson: And we're continuing with Brandon Wark, who is the founder of Free State Colorado and
[82:46] Marshall Dawson: And, you know, before we get back into it, Brandon, I have to give you some props here.
[82:51] Marshall Dawson: Coincidentally, just a couple of months ago, I asked Grok, I said, hey, what is responsible for Brandon and Free State Colorado's success and influence?
[83:03] Marshall Dawson: Hyperlocal, timely, and actionable content versus broader policies.
[83:09] Marshall Dawson: And Brandon's output is laser focused on right now Colorado issues.
[83:14] Marshall Dawson: So Brandon, how can people find this laser focus in your work?
[83:22] Brandon Wark: FreeStateColorado.com where I post all my videos and links to everything discussed.
[83:27] Brandon Wark: Also, for more timely information, definitely on X, Free State Colorado on X, and also Facebook as well.
[83:40] Marshall Dawson: I never really know what to expect from the X algorithm.
[83:45] Marshall Dawson: So, you know, when I found these things the other day, that was literally going and looking for them on your timeline.
[83:53] Marshall Dawson: So let's get to Coco, this rail system that they're wanting to put in.
[84:00] Marshall Dawson: And I watched your video on this, about the $3 million for, I forget exactly how you put it.
[84:14] Brandon Wark: There's a great article over at the Rocky Mountain Voice talking about this.
[84:18] Brandon Wark: Basically, a $3 million taxpayer-funded contract that's going to market this idea to the people along the Front Range.
[84:25] Brandon Wark: Of course, one of the biggest things the government needs for this Front Range passenger rail system is the buy-in from the local communities because even though the governor claims there's no new taxes yet, they will definitely be asking for new taxes in order to fund it.
[84:39] Brandon Wark: I really believe, Marshall, this is going to be the biggest boondoggle in Colorado history.
[84:42] Brandon Wark: We've seen repeated failures of our state government to deliver upon the promises they've made.
[84:47] Brandon Wark: They're promising, you know, I know you're in the area where they were promising rail and trains with fast tracks back in the day to come up to Boulder, to come up to Fort Collins, and to come up to the northern part of Colorado.
[84:58] Brandon Wark: Of course, that never materialized because the costs were too outrageous.
[85:02] Brandon Wark: And I really think that's what they're going to find.
[85:04] Brandon Wark: You know, we've seen in California, we've seen this fail in so many states.
[85:08] Brandon Wark: They're going to over-promise, under-deliver, and all of a sudden, things are going to cost two to three times more than what they told us.
[85:14] Brandon Wark: So we're going to see, starting this summer, I'm sure, town halls popping up, digital ads running on your digital platforms there, people.
[85:22] Brandon Wark: So keep an eye out for this Friends of the Front Range Rail branding advertisements coming out, and just know that this is really designed to try and get people to buy into this big scheme.
[85:52] Marshall Dawson: I think you cited a conversation with Natalie Minton where you talked about the Delphi technique.
[85:57] Marshall Dawson: And this really frightens me, especially if somebody walks into a town hall
[86:05] Marshall Dawson: Can you explain what the Delphi technique is and how they use that?
[86:09] Brandon Wark: Yeah, there was a great video that Natalie mentioned that I did.
[86:12] Brandon Wark: Natalie, if people don't know, I mean, I'm sure regular listeners know Natalie Menton, but one of our Liberty leaders, an absolute rock star in terms of really shining a light on some of these big government agendas and standing up for taxpayers.
[86:27] Brandon Wark: Natalie put together a wonderful presentation that we were able to do a video on, really talking about how public persuasion works with the government.
[86:38] Brandon Wark: town halls or different events, some of these different places there.
[86:44] Brandon Wark: I'm talking about push polls as well, but they bring you in and they present the information in a certain way that really is designed to persuade you to support it, not necessarily to ask for your input as much as really to sell this idea to you.
[87:00] Brandon Wark: how the Delphi techniques works, but I really encourage people, if they go to freestatecolorado.com or look on YouTube, there's a great video there with Natalie Benton on public persuasion where she really dives into it and explains how these, and she's seen it, Natalie's seen it as an insider and just somebody who plays really close attention, but having these facilitators who host these events
[87:22] Brandon Wark: bring people in and then they ask you questions and it seems so innocuous and seems so innocent.
[87:27] Brandon Wark: But really the idea is they're trying to kind of guide the participants in these, in these little consensus building meetings towards where they want them to go.
[87:37] Brandon Wark: And then by the end of it, you know, the government or who's running it can come out and say, Hey, we held a little town hall.
[87:43] Brandon Wark: We held a meeting and we had this little focus group and guess what?
[87:46] Brandon Wark: They all agree with what we wanted them to agree with.
[87:49] Brandon Wark: And then, you know, that helps them sell it to the broader public.
[87:52] Marshall Dawson: And one of the tactics that I recall hearing about is trying to sideline dissenters.
[88:00] Marshall Dawson: So maybe they have these town halls, let's say, in a large area with eight or ten top tables.
[88:09] Marshall Dawson: Well, they might have somebody planted at each one of those tables.
[88:16] Marshall Dawson: That person's job is to make it sound like you're the crazy one and have people then second-guessing themselves.
[88:22] Marshall Dawson: And if they start doing that, then they're not going to speak up.
[88:34] Marshall Dawson: one type of public sentiment, and that's the one that they want, not reaching the truth.
[88:40] Marshall Dawson: So I want any listeners who are going to be going to any of these town halls, be aware of that, be on the lookout for it, and make sure you don't fall victim to it.
[88:54] Brandon Wark: And Marshall, I would have to say nowadays with our cell phones, that can be a great tool.
[88:58] Brandon Wark: People show up to these town halls or these different community events and get something on video.
[89:02] Brandon Wark: And if something seems fishy, hey, send it over to me at Free State Colorado.
[89:06] Brandon Wark: I'm happy to post it and shed some light on these things.
[89:08] Brandon Wark: And I think now with social media and everybody having a camera in their pocket, hopefully the public can stop these politicians or government agents from kind of getting away with what they've been able to do so much in the past.
[89:18] Marshall Dawson: Well, it's a wonderful reminder and I think very important.
[89:24] Marshall Dawson: I try to keep my phone hidden away as much as possible.
[89:28] Marshall Dawson: But, you know, Andrew Breitbart was one of my heroes and he was really on the front lines of, you know, hey, we're all carrying around these cameras in our pockets now.
[89:38] Marshall Dawson: But before I move on, you mentioned the FastTracks Northbury railway line.
[89:45] Marshall Dawson: It's hard to believe that's been more than 20 years now.
[89:49] Marshall Dawson: And, boy, you know, and hearing people complain about that over time within those years, it always reminds me, people are so fast to put their trust in government.
[90:04] Marshall Dawson: They said it was going to cost X amount of dollars and we'd get our train by, you know, such and such time.
[90:09] Marshall Dawson: Well, darn it, you know, your problem was trusting the government in the first place.
[90:17] Brandon Wark: And it just shows the good nature that people have.
[90:20] Brandon Wark: We want to trust our elected officials there.
[90:26] Brandon Wark: We really want to think that everybody's acting on the level, but I'm hopeful that more and more people realize just what a scam so much of what the government proposes is.
[90:36] Brandon Wark: And sometimes it's not even that the politicians or the interested parties or these people, these special interests, are even trying to do something wrong.
[90:45] Brandon Wark: It just so happens that they're ignorant or they make promises that can't necessarily be kept.
[90:50] Brandon Wark: But hopefully, Marshall, I really am hoping that more people nowadays...
[90:54] Brandon Wark: really wake up to this and aren't so quick to buy into these big promises that the government makes.
[91:03] Marshall Dawson: Um, we were talking about campaign finance, um, because you've done a video on this as well.
[91:08] Marshall Dawson: Um, the, the amount raised and spent by our, uh, candidates running here in Colorado.
[91:14] Marshall Dawson: Did you have any interesting things that you took away from that, that deep dive that you did?
[91:20] Brandon Wark: You know, I think one of the biggest things, and, um,
[91:23] Brandon Wark: People always talk about why do the Democrats control the Colorado state government?
[91:27] Brandon Wark: Now, there's, of course, many reasons for that, but it's hard not to really consider the money aspect of it.
[91:32] Brandon Wark: Looking at the disparity between the candidates here this election cycle.
[91:37] Brandon Wark: So if we look back four years ago, the attorney general race was the closest race where the Democrat won, but the Republican was really close to winning four years ago.
[91:44] Brandon Wark: So a lot of people now are looking to say, hey, maybe there's an opportunity that the treasurer, that the attorney general, these really close races we saw in 2022,
[91:53] Brandon Wark: I mean, the Attorney General, I mean, don't get me wrong, it was still 288,000 votes difference in 2022, the last time we had this election.
[92:00] Brandon Wark: But people say, hey, you know, there's a chance there.
[92:03] Brandon Wark: Then you look at the fundraising and go, oh, my goodness here.
[92:06] Brandon Wark: You know, we have Janet Griswold, who's got over a million dollars on hand as of this last reporting period that came out at the end of April, beginning of May.
[92:14] Brandon Wark: And then we see the leading Republican candidate, Michael Allen, with only $50,000 in the bank.
[92:18] Brandon Wark: So I'm really looking, and that's not the exception.
[92:22] Brandon Wark: That's the rule, unfortunately, whether it's Secretary of State, Treasurer, Attorney General, and, of course, Governor, the one everybody's paying attention to.
[92:29] Brandon Wark: But even on these other races that people aren't paying as close attention to, the disparity is huge.
[92:34] Brandon Wark: I mean, it's incredible how much money is on the Democrat side versus the Republican side.
[92:39] Brandon Wark: And I think that's really one of the things we've almost neglected talking about in recent years in terms of why the Democrats have so much control over our Colorado government.
[92:49] Marshall Dawson: Well, Brandon, one of the things that I just love about your work is you really do these deep dives and everything you do is well sourced too.
[92:57] Marshall Dawson: So, you know, for the most part, I think I can say categorically, you know, you're not engaging in shallow arguments, but it's really a good analysis and, you know, very meaningful for people who are following you.
[93:23] Brandon Wark: You know, I think people need to be hopeful.
[93:26] Brandon Wark: People need to understand we can turn things around.
[93:30] Brandon Wark: There's fewer people than most people think who are involved in actively in politics.
[93:35] Brandon Wark: And if we just did our little piece of the puzzle in our corner of the state.
[93:40] Brandon Wark: So I really hope people get involved at the local level.
[93:43] Brandon Wark: It's very easy to get lost, focused on national politics and things out of our control.
[93:47] Brandon Wark: But our city council meetings, our school boards, our county commissions, this is where the action is.
[93:52] Brandon Wark: This is where each and every single one of us can have an outsized impact in our own communities.
[93:56] Brandon Wark: Whether it's the potholes in the road, the homelessness in the streets, or the crime that's affecting all of us.
[94:01] Brandon Wark: We can get involved, and it starts by showing up.
[94:04] Brandon Wark: So show up at your city council meeting, show up at a legislative committee hearing, get informed, and then you might find some other people who are on the same side as you, who agree with you.
[94:13] Brandon Wark: And once there's a couple of you involved who are willing to get organized and willing to use your voices and stand up, great things can happen.
[94:20] Marshall Dawson: Well, I think that's a great point about thinking locally as well.
[94:24] Marshall Dawson: I think too often we get trapped with the national politics because we have national media organizations that are really competing and spending a lot of money to get our eyeballs.
[94:34] Marshall Dawson: Brandon Wark, tell us again how to follow you, how to find your work.
[94:40] Brandon Wark: FreeStateColorado.com, Free State Colorado on YouTube, on X and on Facebook.
[94:46] Brandon Wark: Marshall, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me today.
[94:49] Marshall Dawson: Well, Brandon, it's been my pleasure, and I think this was a great conversation.
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[98:30] Marshall Dawson: And Cathy Russell is still in the studio with me, and I'm going to invite Kathy to chime in on this next conversation because it's about education, something I know next to nothing about.
[98:40] Marshall Dawson: And with that great introduction, I want to welcome Molly Lamar to the Kim Monson Show.
[98:53] Molly Lamar: So, Marshall, I'll just start with I'm a fourth generation Coloradan.
[98:57] Molly Lamar: I come on normally on Fridays to give an update on the Cherry Creek Schools.
[99:08] Molly Lamar: My parents built a house in the Cherry Creek School District in 1976.
[99:14] Molly Lamar: And I have lived here since I was two years old.
[99:17] Molly Lamar: I actually live in the same neighborhood in which my parents built that house.
[99:23] Molly Lamar: I have four children and three of whom have already graduated from Cherry Creek Schools.
[99:29] Molly Lamar: And my daughter, who graduated from eighth grade yesterday, will be attending Cherry Creek High School in the fall.
[99:36] Molly Lamar: So I just wanted to give that little plug there because, you know, I want people to know why I'm so passionate about the success of Cherry Creek Schools.
[99:49] Molly Lamar: I'm a Cherry Creek grad K through 12 myself and a former teacher.
[99:54] Molly Lamar: I ran for State Board of Education in 2022 for Congressional District 6 and just very passionate about education and ensuring that every child has the opportunity to an excellent education.
[100:10] Molly Lamar: And unfortunately in Cherry Creek, we...
[100:14] Molly Lamar: Our academics are declining, our enrollment is declining, but the payouts for our administration are increasing.
[100:23] Molly Lamar: So we have a lot of work to do, but in the past, I guess it's five months now, we have had our superintendent has resigned.
[100:35] Molly Lamar: We are parting ways with multiple administrators.
[100:38] Molly Lamar: So we are making progress, but there's still a lot of work that needs to be done.
[100:44] Marshall Dawson: Are Kim's listeners familiar with the superintendent and the nepotism that was going on there?
[100:53] Molly Lamar: Yes, I've come in on Friday for, oh gosh, the last couple of months now.
[101:01] Molly Lamar: This week has been truly wild and frankly sobering.
[101:06] Molly Lamar: We just watched the board come out of another closed-door meeting to terminate nearly 100 probationary teachers.
[101:14] Molly Lamar: These are the newer faces in the classroom, the ones without tenure who work, you know, on the front lines every day, and now they're gone.
[101:22] Molly Lamar: And at that same meeting, we had our CFO, Scott Smith.
[101:27] Molly Lamar: He reviewed the proposed budget, and I was floored.
[101:31] Molly Lamar: I mean, we're getting increased funding from the state, yet the Board of Education is moving forward with cutting 159 staff members.
[101:40] Molly Lamar: So we're cutting 100 probationary teachers.
[101:49] Molly Lamar: But on the back side, they're taking this additional funding that we're getting instead of saving jobs and putting that money into the classroom, for whatever reason, we're now putting that money into a savings account.
[102:09] Marshall Dawson: Do you recall offhand what the sum of money was coming from the state, the increase there?
[102:20] Molly Lamar: We're getting a $5.3 million increase in state funding, yet we're cutting $23 million from the budget.
[102:34] Molly Lamar: The question is, where is that money really going?
[102:37] Molly Lamar: Why are we cutting all of these staff positions when you look at the administration that has these padded salaries, padded contracts?
[102:56] Molly Lamar: What's supposed to happen is they fund their retirement.
[103:05] Molly Lamar: we are actually, taxpayers are reimbursing them for the contributions that they're making to their para.
[103:13] Molly Lamar: So they make an 11% contribution and then we reimburse them for that.
[103:19] Molly Lamar: And that's only our district leadership team.
[103:21] Molly Lamar: That is not what our teachers and staff members are getting.
[103:25] Molly Lamar: So the people that are in the classrooms that are going to work every day with the students,
[103:32] Molly Lamar: You know, they're having to pay for their own retirement, and then our district leadership that rarely sees kids.
[103:41] Molly Lamar: They're getting these big, fat payouts, and we have a very bloated administration.
[103:53] Marshall Dawson: I don't know how prevalent that is, but I gave my caveats up front that I'm not really familiar with the education system.
[104:07] Marshall Dawson: I mean, there's matching from the employer, but yeah, I've never heard of that.
[104:12] Marshall Dawson: I mean, it really sounds like they're tipping the scales in favor of the highest paid in the Cherry Creek District.
[104:21] Molly Lamar: Yes, and this is all being done behind closed doors.
[104:31] Molly Lamar: What's happening is we're told here's the salary for the superintendent.
[104:40] Molly Lamar: But then when you go and add up all of the perks that they're being given, this is far greater.
[104:51] Molly Lamar: It adds roughly $60,000 to the salary.
[105:01] Molly Lamar: And so you're told, you know, you were given the information and then find out later, have to have to dig and go through Korras.
[105:11] Molly Lamar: And it's just there's the Cherry Creek School District really lacks transparency right now.
[105:19] Molly Lamar: And it's shocking how much money we're investing in administration versus our classroom, which is.
[105:27] Molly Lamar: truly where taxpayers want the money to go.
[105:31] Molly Lamar: I mean, when you look at our declining scores, um, we, our priorities are out of whack.
[105:38] Molly Lamar: We need to take the money and we need to cut, make huge cuts at the top, um, and take all of that money and reinvest it back into the classroom so that our children are reading, writing, and doing math.
[105:55] Molly Lamar: performing at grade level versus nearly 50% of our kids are not at grade level.
[106:03] Molly Lamar: And this is the Cherry Creek School District that has been a pillar in education for the state historically.
[106:11] Cathy Russell: So, Molly, I'm from Boulder, Colorado, and I was looking at our budget, and taxpayers are paying $44,000 per student to educate.
[106:27] Cathy Russell: And do you know what it is in Cherry Creek schools?
[106:34] Molly Lamar: Well, so in Cherry Creek, when you look at that, I mean, you know, what we're told is that we're spending about $18,000 per student.
[106:46] Molly Lamar: So, you know, but if you added, if you took the money that we were spending on administration, if you took that money and added it to $18,000 for the kids,
[107:03] Molly Lamar: We could be spending a lot more on children.
[107:05] Molly Lamar: Cherry Creek has all kinds of things that are going wrong.
[107:12] Molly Lamar: I mean, in September, we neglected 11 children in one school that are deaf.
[107:22] Molly Lamar: We did not provide sign language interpreters for them for three months.
[107:27] Molly Lamar: I mean, Colorado Department of Education
[107:30] Molly Lamar: came out and said we have violated these children's civil rights.
[107:34] Molly Lamar: All of this money that is being spent at the top should be reinvested in our classrooms.
[107:41] Molly Lamar: Right now we have an audit that we're performing and we're spending $250,000 on this audit.
[107:50] Molly Lamar: The average teacher's salary is $76,000 in Cherry Creek.
[107:58] Molly Lamar: We're cutting 100 probationary teachers right now.
[108:03] Molly Lamar: Why aren't we saving three of them at least with this $250,000 audit that we're doing that truly is corrupt because we've filled the audit committee.
[108:18] Molly Lamar: with insiders, our CFO, who should be being audited himself, he's the one writing the checks, he's leading the audit committee.
[108:27] Marshall Dawson: All right, Molly, that's going to have to be the final word.
[108:31] Marshall Dawson: So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically.
[108:41] Marshall Dawson: Strive for high ideals, and like Superman, send for truth, justice, and the American way.
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