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[02:24] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[02:31] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[02:35] Kim Monson: And it's not compassionate or altruistic to take other people's rights, their property, freedom, livelihood opportunities, or their childhoods or their lives via force.
[02:45] Kim Monson: Force can be a weapon, but it's policy: unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government induced inflation, the agenda by the world economic forum.
[02:55] Kim Monson: This played out with the globalist elites in the united nations, this legislature, uh, here in colorado, this colorado governor.
[03:04] Kim Monson: And then they can use all kinds of things at the local and county level: land use code, zoning regulations, force fees, nationally conservation easements, national monument designations.
[03:12] Kim Monson: Joe the o biden administration was trying to use those on their way out the door.
[03:17] Kim Monson: And remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it.
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[04:31] Kim Monson: And we will be talking with the CUT board member, new board member, Paula Beard here in the second segment as the CUT board members are indefatigable in what we are doing watching the legislation down at the Statehouse.
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[07:16] Kim Monson: Our Bill of the Days, we will talk with Paula Beard in the second segment.
[07:23] Kim Monson: and again she's one of our newest CUP board members and so delighted to have her join us.
[07:29] Kim Monson: But this is really big news in our arena, and so many of you are out there doing such great work, caring about our elections.
[07:40] Kim Monson: I want to get some of our guests on regarding Convention of the States, these issues.
[07:48] Kim Monson: All of this is important, but it comes down to our elections must be free, fair, honest, and transparent.
[07:58] Kim Monson: And Donald Trump issued an executive order on yesterday, and he said this is preserving and protecting the integrity of American elections.
[08:12] Kim Monson: And he went through, and I think it makes a lot of sense.
[08:18] Kim Monson: He cites a number of laws that have been put on the books, but he started this, he said, while the United States, he said many of the developed nations, as well as those still developing, such as India and Brazil, for example, are tying voter identification to a biometric database, while the United States largely relies on self- attestationfor citizenship.
[08:44] Kim Monson: In tabulating votes, Germany and Canada require use of paper ballots counted in public by local officials, which substantially reduces the number of disputes as compared to the American patchwork of voting methods that can lead to basic chain of custody problems.
[09:05] Kim Monson: Further, while countries like Denmark and Sweden sensibly limit mail- invoting to those unable to vote in person and do not count late arriving votes, duh, regardless of the date of the postmark.
[09:16] Kim Monson: Many American elections now feature mass voting by mail, that's Colorado, with many officials accepting ballots without postmarks or those received well after election day.
[09:29] Kim Monson: This executive order goes on to say free, fair, and honest elections unmarred by fraud, errors and suspicion are fundamental to maintaining our constitutional republic.
[09:39] Kim Monson: He says, the right of American citizens to have their votes properly counted and tabulated, without illegal dilution, is vital to determining the rightful winner of an election.
[09:52] Kim Monson: Under the Constitution, state governments must safeguard American elections in compliance with federal laws that protect americans voting rights and guard against dilution by illegal voting, discrimination, fraud and other forms of malfeasance and error.
[10:10] Kim Monson: At this point I'm going to make an editorial comment regarding our lawsuit with united sovereign americans, which you all stepped forward to raise the money for this lawsuit, which was filed last september.
[10:24] Kim Monson: It puts in place just this: the lawsuit says that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by congress for our elections.
[10:37] Kim Monson: So I think that our lawsuit is going to be a great compliment to what he is doing right here.
[10:45] Kim Monson: It was really a god thing, a god nudge, to get these lawsuits, the money raised, and to get these funded here in Colorado.
[10:52] Kim Monson: This is, I think this is going to be huge.
[10:55] Kim Monson: Then it goes on, he goes on to say: yet the United States has not adequately enforced federal election requirements that, for example, prohibit states from counting ballots received after election day or prohibit non- citizensfrom registering to vote.
[11:12] Kim Monson: One of our inflection points, our vulnerabilities here in Colorado, is illegal aliens, non- citizens,can get a driver's license or a Colorado ID.
[11:23] Kim Monson: In Colorado, when you have an interaction with the government, you are automatically registered to vote.
[11:29] Kim Monson: The illegal alien needs to self- attesthere in Colorado that they are not a citizen.
[11:38] Kim Monson: Also he went on to say later on, maintaining accurate voter registration lists is a fundamental requirement in protecting voters from having their ballots voided or diluted by fraudulent votes.
[11:54] Kim Monson: And that goes to our second lawsuit with the Wisconsin Center for Election Justice with Peter Berninger.
[12:00] Kim Monson: And we have in that lawsuit, which was filed November 1st, and then we reran, let me put it, let's see, I wanted to rephrase that.
[12:12] Kim Monson: The Secretary of State said that we had used old data for that lawsuit.
[12:17] Kim Monson: So Peter Berninger got the voter records as of November 1st and ran the records.
[12:27] Kim Monson: Out of that targeted list, 14, 500people in Colorado that should not have received ballots voted.
[12:34] Kim Monson: And so that's the basis of the second lawsuit.
[12:38] Kim Monson: I talked with both Marley Hornick with United Sovereign Americans yesterday and Peter Berninger with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice.
[12:45] Kim Monson: They are thrilled with this executive order.
[12:48] Kim Monson: and they said that our lawsuits have put us in an excellent position here in Colorado.
[12:55] Kim Monson: We're at the tip of the spear, and you're in the battle, my friends.
[12:58] Kim Monson: And then Colorado Secretary of State issued this press release, and she said this.
[13:04] Kim Monson: Trump's executive order is unlawful.
[13:07] Kim Monson: According to probably Colorado law.
[13:12] Kim Monson: That may be true as far as Colorado law, but federal law trumps colorado law, and I would say that many of the things in colorado are probably unconstitutional, so just stay tuned on that.
[13:25] Kim Monson: But she goes on to say it would prevent eligible americans from exercising their sacred right to vote.
[13:33] Kim Monson: The trump administration is weaponizing the federal government and trying to make it harder for voters to fight back at the ballot box.
[13:39] Kim Monson: No, no, with all of the vulnerabilities that are going on in Colorado.
[13:43] Kim Monson: It is diluting, I think, our legitimate votes.
[13:48] Kim Monson: She said the United States has always led the world in conducting free and fair elections.
[13:54] Kim Monson: And we cannot let Donald Trump in that legacy.
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[17:05] Kim Monson: And Producer Joe had a quick comment regarding my comments on the executive order from Donald Trump to preserve and protect the integrity of our elections.
[17:18] Kim Monson: And then Jenna Griswold, Secretary of State's office, press release that said that this executive order is unlawful.
[17:26] Kim Monson: And you had a thought, Producer Joe.
[17:28] Producer Joe: My thought was, if it's unlawful, what about the 22 firearm bills that she is pushing through?
[17:36] Kim Monson: That they're pushing down there, yeah.
[17:38] Producer Joe: Well, and also on top of that, they say in the Constitution, this right shall not be infringed upon.
[17:49] Kim Monson: I think that's a really good question, young producer Joe.
[17:56] Kim Monson: Paula Beard is a new member to the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, an all-volunteer group that goes through and takes positions on different pieces of legislation as it pertains to the taxpayers.
[18:08] Kim Monson: So we work to protect the taxpayer, TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, our school choice for families, property rights, all those kinds of things.
[18:23] Kim Monson: It's great to have you, and we are so pleased to have you on the board of CUT as well.
[18:29] Kim Monson: And I want to give a shout out to our fellow board members, because you all are doing such amazing work.
[18:35] Kim Monson: And that's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizor, you, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard, who I think you know.
[18:51] Kim Monson: First of all, as a new member, what is your perspective on CUT?
[18:56] Kim Monson: Have you been– yeah, what's your perspective on that?
[19:00] Kim Monson: I don't want to give you an answer on that.
[19:02] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I am so glad one of the board members talked to me about possibly joining this.
[19:11] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: My perspective is if people in Colorado knew what was going on in the legislature, things would change.
[19:22] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: If regular people knew the unconstitutionality of a lot of these bills, I just don't see how our legislator could just be run over by Democrats.
[19:36] Kim Monson: Well, and that's why shedding light on this is so important.
[19:42] Kim Monson: At this particular point in time, this Bill Track 50 that we use, which is pretty cool, Paula, as of this morning, there were 560 bills and resolutions that have been proposed down at the Statehouse.
[19:55] Kim Monson: We at CUT have taken positions on 216 of them.
[20:01] Kim Monson: And we would really encourage people to join us at coloradotaxpayer.
[20:04] Kim Monson: But this is amazing work by volunteers.
[20:10] Kim Monson: But We, yesterday, rolled out something we've been working on, and that is Cut Engaged, where we are going to make it easy for people to contact sponsors of the bills and their legislators on three or four bills each week.
[20:30] Kim Monson: And I'm really pleased to announce today with you that this is up and running.
[20:36] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Yes, and I'm thankful that Corey kind of helped with that.
[20:47] Kim Monson: Yes, and then Zach put it all together.
[20:47] Kim Monson: And Corey's going to be taking, and he's going to be on next week, taking this and he's going to be handling us on X, which I think is really fantastic.
[20:57] Kim Monson: But we took positions on three bills that you can just go to the website and you can click on it and you can send a message to the sponsors, enter your legislators.
[21:09] Kim Monson: And the three that we chose are being heard, well, two are heard this week, and one is just one that's really on the hearts of our board members.
[21:18] Kim Monson: But one is 1269, the building decarbonization measures, and that is House Bill 1269, Senate Bill 37, coal transition grants, and then House Bill 1211, tap fees for special districts.
[21:36] Kim Monson: So go to our website and check all that out.
[21:39] Kim Monson: Paula, we took positions on three bills this week, which is amazing.
[21:46] Kim Monson: There's been some weeks we had 34, which is a lot of work.
[21:49] Kim Monson: But let's just run through these quick- like.
[21:51] Kim Monson: Shall we start with Senate Bill 148, Modifications to Campaign Finance Requirements?
[22:07] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Well, I'm going to read the cut comment here.
[22:11] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: The bill increases the prohibition of lobbyist campaign contributions from during the legislative session to year- round.
[22:19] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: The bill also increases disclosure requirements.
[22:22] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: But, you know, all this sounds really good.
[22:28] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: But then it says fees will therefore need to be raised to cover the increased cost of the bill.
[22:34] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: the increased fees will be paid by business owners who have nothing to do with campaign contributions.
[22:38] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So the reason I voted no on this, I mean, this sounds really good, but with all the complaints that are going to come up from this, the fees are going to go up, and they're from business filings.
[22:55] Kim Monson: Right, and so this is a strategy we see.
[22:59] Kim Monson: They may propose something that may sound good, but ultimately this is another hit at business, and businesses are having a hard enough time here in Colorado.
[23:18] Kim Monson: Oh, I need to mention the bill sponsors.
[23:19] Kim Monson: The prime sponsor on that Senate Bill 148 on these campaign finance requirements is Senator Michael Weissman.
[23:26] Kim Monson: Over here on Senate Bill 196, Prime Sponsor is Senator Iman Joda.
[23:32] Kim Monson: Insurance coverage for preventative health care services.
[23:36] Kim Monson: Give us the perspective of cut on that.
[23:39] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Well, that was unanimously opposed.
[23:43] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: First of all, they're assuming that a lot of the coverage is going to be cut federally.
[23:55] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So they're assuming that that's going to happen.
[23:59] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And let's see.
[24:01] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I did look up, well, I know there's 54 preventative guidelines that the U.
[24:11] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: S.
[24:11] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Preventative Service is in favor of.
[24:14] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And this is going to make insurance companies leave our state.
[24:22] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And then the ones that you want to find are going to be more expensive for private individuals and businesses.
[24:28] Kim Monson: Right, because it has all those force words in there.
[24:31] Kim Monson: Mandate, require, you know, all of those are your flags that government is probably out of their proper role.
[24:48] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Paula Beard, oh my gosh, this was going to save so much money which um could be a possibility, except for the 15 or 16 full- timeemployees needed to do this.
[25:05] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: This is basically turning away class five and six felonies from a prison sentence.
[25:13] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They're reducing sentencing so that there will be prison beds available for, you know, aggressive whatever.
[25:23] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And to me, this is not how to reduce crime.
[25:33] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You don't reward crime by enabling it.
[25:35] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I just think, yeah.
[25:38] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I mean, if a kid, if you have a baby, if a baby cries to be picked up in the middle of the night over and over again, you don't go in until the baby stops crying.
[25:52] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You're teaching the baby, you know, you're going to get what you want if you don't act up.
[26:00] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So I think all, there's got to be some sort of punishment that hurts.
[26:08] Kim Monson: Yeah, but they do this under, again, the guise of maybe possibly saving money.
[26:16] Kim Monson: But to your point, significant number of full- timeemployees, which that's going to cost a lot more money.
[26:22] Kim Monson: So cut is a strong no on that as well.
[26:25] Kim Monson: and so it was a light week for all of us as I was going through that we had taken positions already there was now I can't remember exactly how many bills but over 200 bills I think scheduled for hearing down at the state house we had already taken positions on many of those bills and then I'd already reviewed some of them as well so we're in a little bit of a reprieve Paula But our secretary, Wendy Warner, said that normally as we get closer to the end of the session, which is May 5th, or excuse me, May 6th, that we're going to start to see a ramp up again.
[27:04] Kim Monson: So I think we're resting a little bit, Paula Beard, and just stay tuned.
[27:07] Kim Monson: And we really would encourage people to join us, Paula Beard.
[27:11] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Well, thank you, Kim.
[27:13] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And yes, it's eye- openingto know what's going on in the legislature.
[27:18] Kim Monson: Well, and the first thing to do is to know what's going on.
[27:21] Kim Monson: So Paula Beard, thank you so much for joining us.
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[29:50] Kim Monson: We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[29:58] Kim Monson: You should not have to force people to do it.
[30:00] Kim Monson: And, my friends, Because we have not realized that many of our school board elections, that there are radicals that are running for school boards and they have specific agendas.
[30:16] Kim Monson: And it is amazing to me, there are people that are stepping forward to run for school board who really care about our children and care about curriculum, care about these things.
[30:27] Kim Monson: And we need more of them, and we've got one of them on the line with us right now and that is nancy rumfelt.
[30:34] Kim Monson: She is a board director for the thompson school district.
[30:40] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Well, thank you for having me and I would always, I always, add my disclaimer.
[30:45] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Everything I say during your show is my own personal opinion.
[30:49] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I'm not speaking for on behalf of the school board.
[30:51] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Okay, we got it.
[30:54] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And I understand what I understand.
[30:57] Kim Monson: So speaking as Nancy Rumfeldt, and you're on the board of Thompson School District, this radical transgender activist agenda is prevalent in many of our schools.
[31:13] Kim Monson: And apparently it's something that's being pushed there at Thompson School District as well.
[31:21] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Yes, and it's been that way for a while.
[31:25] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Starting back in early 2021, the school board passed a gender transition plan, which allows the school district, any school, to socially transition a student without the consent of the parents.
[31:42] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: If the student says, I don't think my parents will support me, we don't investigate.
[31:48] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We don't find out if it's true.
[31:49] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We just say, okay.
[31:50] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: and that's it.
[31:53] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I have asked repeatedly to add parental consent and they act as if I'm, I don't know, I'm subjecting or going to sentence that student to some horrible treatment by their parents, which I think is ridiculous.
[32:06] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: The really sad truth, Kim, though, is what we forget about is there are kids, there's actual kids getting caught up in all of this stuff that's driven by adults.
[32:18] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We're forgetting about the real humanness of transgender kids, kids who are experiencing gender dysphoria.
[32:24] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: How do they deal with this?
[32:27] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: How do they go through school without being, you know, identified or brought out and trying to, you know, live their life?
[32:35] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And same with those who live as biological male or females.
[32:39] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: How do we make things fair?
[32:40] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: and you can't even have the discussion without being accused of being anti- trans,transphobic, a hater, a bigot.
[32:49] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And what kind of lesson does that send to kids with what we're modeling?
[32:53] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: What does that tell them?
[32:55] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I mean, really.
[32:57] Kim Monson: Well, and we continue to delve into this issue more and more.
[33:03] Kim Monson: And one of the things that has come out is some of these adults, There are those that really have this agenda regarding kids, but some of these adults in this arena that are mutilating children.
[33:20] Kim Monson: both pharmaceutically and surgically, in their minds, they think they're helping children.
[33:26] Kim Monson: Now, I don't know quite how they match that up, but they do.
[33:30] Kim Monson: And anyone that tries to prevent that, they are demonizing them.
[33:38] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Well, back in February 19th, I wore a T-shirt.
[33:43] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: All it said, simply, real women rock.
[33:47] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Nothing more, nothing less.
[33:50] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I bought it after watching a video that Jennifer Say with XXXY Athletics made, showing how strong real women who are competing in sports, women like Riley Gaines and so forth, and I found it very inspiring.
[34:07] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I also knew that this month is Women's Month, and the February 19th would really be the only public meeting because we have one today, but it's almost the end of the month.
[34:18] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: No big deal.
[34:21] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Well, they turned it into a big deal.
[34:23] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And the amount of male saying that I'm a hater, adding all kinds of meaning to three simple words.
[34:33] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: But I would just simply say to people, Kim, if someone can wear a rainbow shirt, a pride shirt, that doesn't mean that they hate heterosexuals or women or anything.
[34:43] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It just means they're proud of who they are.
[34:47] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So wearing a shirt that says real women rock, why do I have to say yes, that means something because I'm excluding trans women?
[34:57] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Why do women have to give up space?
[35:01] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Why do we have to share?
[35:09] Kim Monson: We got to get her back on right there on that.
[35:11] Kim Monson: So I'm going to go ahead and give you a little bit more backstory on this.
[35:16] Kim Monson: Nancy Rumfeld, who is a Thompson school board member, wore this shirt, Real Women Rock.
[35:24] Kim Monson: And so she said that the other board members were fixated on that.
[35:31] Kim Monson: And she also noted in this meeting with her board report that Thompson School District is not in compliance with Title IX since the court ruling in January and that they needed to discuss it.
[35:47] Kim Monson: And she certainly, she has a video link on that as well.
[35:53] Kim Monson: She said there were the usual folks who sent emails and complained about the shirt, but most of the complaints were generated by the Facebook page.
[36:04] Kim Monson: You wanted to have a discussion regarding Title IX, then what happened?
[36:08] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It's just been turned into something that it's really not about.
[36:13] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I mean, when I engage with reasonable people, they understand then that I'm talking about, we need to talk about fair solutions.
[36:23] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: How do we accommodate athletes, girls and trans girls?
[36:27] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: How do we ensure sports remains fair and competitive, which Title IX compels us to do?
[36:35] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: That's what Title IX is all about.
[36:37] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It's discrimination based on sex, and that's it.
[36:41] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So having that discussion is needed because we need to figure this out so we don't lose federal funding, but we can't do that if they won't allow a discussion.
[36:53] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They keep shutting it down because they want to make it about something else, which is nothing more than a distraction to the real issues we're facing.
[37:01] Kim Monson: Well, and what about these boys that are identifying as girls?
[37:12] Kim Monson: In Thompson School District, are these boys at this particular point in time allowed in the girls' restrooms and the girls' locker rooms?
[37:22] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They are allowed.
[37:23] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: My understanding is often they'll choose to use the unisex, but there's nothing stopping them from using the locker rooms or the girls' restrooms, which I know they use the girls' restrooms.
[37:34] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: The bigger thing is, you know, we force our girls' sports team to compete against other districts that do have transgender girls, biological males on their teams.
[37:47] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And that's just simply not fair.
[37:49] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It creates an unfair competitive advantage.
[37:53] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I don't know that people understand.
[37:54] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I've had some people say there's way bigger issues than transgenders in sports.
[37:59] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It's like, well, why don't you go talk to the parents of these girls who are trying to compete, build their self-esteem, win competitions, win medals, but more importantly, win scholarships.
[38:13] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Scholarships are so important to the girls who go into sports.
[38:18] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: and now they have to compete for these scholarships with a transgender girl who's a biological male?
[38:25] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They have to compete against that?
[38:27] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: How is that fair?
[38:39] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It's not, and that's what Title IX is all about, and we need to have this discussion as a board acting like grownups who can learn to respect different views and have a conversation and figure out what is the best solution instead of making everything about a person.
[38:48] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: That solves no problems and keeps everybody distracted and just foments more hate, more division.
[38:56] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And how is that good for our children to see?
[39:00] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Again, how is that good for our children?
[39:02] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They need to see us act like adults.
[39:04] Kim Monson: Well, and to have a discussion, seems like that's a freedom of speech issue, Nancy.
[39:11] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Well, exactly.
[39:12] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They're all up in arms saying I violated, I don't know, laws, the Constitution, policies.
[39:18] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: The reality is there is no dress code that applies to a school board member.
[39:23] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It also is true I still have a First Amendment right.
[39:27] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It's also true that if a student or a staff wore the same shirt and we made them go home and change or force them to cover it up or expel them or wrote them up, they would have a solid case for their First Amendment right being violated by a government entity.
[39:47] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So for some reason, there seems to be this belief that if you are sitting on a school board, you lose, you check your First Amendment rights at the door.
[39:58] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And that's just simply not true.
[40:00] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You still have your First Amendment rights.
[40:02] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You still have to also objectively and rationally listen to all of the information before you make a decision and vote.
[40:11] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: But, again, it goes back to we're losing our ability to keep things as common sense.
[40:19] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We just want to keep adding meaning where meaning is not there, because it helps support the narrative that they've decided is true.
[40:28] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And it's not just, you know, the far left that does that.
[40:32] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: There's also people on the right that do it.
[40:35] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And, you know, rational people need to be able to discern the difference and see through it so we can figure out a solution.
[40:43] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Again, we need to stop, act like adults, talk about, are we going to comply with Title IX?
[40:51] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Oh, we're not?
[40:52] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Okay.
[40:52] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: How do you want to replace the federal dollars?
[40:54] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: because President Trump's made it clear they are and will and have take federal funding.
[41:01] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So if we don't want to comply, great.
[41:05] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: How do you want to find the money?
[41:06] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: If we do comply, then we need to figure out the fair solutions for the locker rooms, the bathrooms, the sports teams so that we can also still comply with state laws, which the state laws in place are a whole other conversation.
[41:25] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: but we're in a tough position, all school districts in Colorado, because you have federal and state laws, but they're in conflict.
[41:33] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So it requires some real finesse to figure out how do we follow the law and abide by doing what's right for our students.
[41:43] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I mean, it's a difficult conversation we need to have.
[41:48] Kim Monson: So, Nancy, super interesting conversation for sure.
[41:50] Kim Monson: This came in from one of our listeners, and he said, this is grooming.
[41:55] Kim Monson: He said, historically, we have legally treated children differently than adults.
[42:00] Kim Monson: The transgender agenda undermines this wisdom.
[42:05] Kim Monson: And we had some conversations this week, earlier in the week, regarding the Constitution, the Declaration, nature's God, and nature's law.
[42:17] Kim Monson: And really I think this transgender agenda goes against nature's law of male and female.
[42:28] Kim Monson: So I think, of course those that don't believe in nature's law, I guess good luck on that.
[42:35] Kim Monson: We'll have to continue to have the discussion on that and we're going to continue to do that because tonight there is an important meeting and it would be really great if people support Nancy because it probably.
[42:46] Kim Monson: I talked to one of our other colleagues up there in northern Colorado.
[42:49] Kim Monson: She said the chances are pretty high that the transgender activist extremist agenda is going to be out in full force tonight.
[42:57] Kim Monson: So we'll talk with you about that, Nancy, when we come back.
[43:01] Kim Monson: But I did want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation, which is one of the nonprofits that I dearly love.
[43:07] Kim Monson: And in mid-May, they're going to have a great golf tournament, their second annual golf tournament out at the Ridge in Castle Rock.
[43:16] Kim Monson: And there will be a certain amount of openings for golfers.
[43:19] Kim Monson: And so make your reservation early on that and buy your sponsorship.
[43:25] Kim Monson: You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.
[43:31] Kim Monson: And then for everything mortgages, you'll want to talk to Lorne Levy and we will talk to him in the second hour.
[43:36] Kim Monson: We'll be right back with Nancy Rumfeld.
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[46:23] Kim Monson: On the line with me is Nancy Rumfelt, Thompson School Board director.
[46:28] Kim Monson: She wore a t-shirt that said real women rock and they want to have a discussion about ethics.
[46:33] Kim Monson: When I say they that is the other school board members about your ethics in wearing such a shirt.
[46:41] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Yes they did on the March 5th study agenda they decided to have a 15-minute conversation regarding my ethics about wearing a shirt and did a lot of the usual you know accuse me of hating trans, being anti-trans, when really it's just about girls' sports.
[47:02] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: How do you protect girls' sports, and how do you keep things fair?
[47:10] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And again, they always like to use these other things as a distraction, because the reality is, again, it's a conversation I've asked for repeatedly.
[47:18] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Being in the minority, I'm typically, what I would like to see on agendas is usually ignored.
[47:24] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It's as if I didn't say it.
[47:28] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So now we have this meeting tonight where many people have been worked up into a frenzy that I need to be censured, I'm a bigot, I'm hateful, etc.
[47:38] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: The only good thing that's come out of this is that it's finally, I believe, awakened many parents to see what's really happening in the schools and that they can't be afraid to speak up anymore.
[47:56] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Many of these parents will talk to me or through back channels ask if there's anything I can do to help with the girls' sports, and there's not because they're so silent.
[48:08] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And now it's almost as if they're worried because parents and their daughters are going to speak tonight and say, no, this is a real issue, and here's my own personal experience as a girl who had to compete against a boy.
[48:25] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: and that's the reality of it.
[48:28] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Imagine your 14-or 15- year-olddaughter doing really well in wrestling.
[48:32] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: She's in third place, and she gets taken out because she had to wrestle an 18- year-oldboy.
[48:40] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Now she's out and she's done.
[48:43] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So while they talk about fairness, where's the fairness in that?
[48:47] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And that is exactly what Title IX is about.
[48:51] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And I would also add to your one listener that as far as the grooming, we need to understand that there's so many good teachers that are just stuck.
[49:00] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They're trapped in just a bad situation, system.
[49:05] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They don't like this any more than the rest of us, but they're stuck.
[49:10] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They're trapped between all of these laws and forced to do things they really don't want to.
[49:16] Kim Monson: And Colorado, I think, is really at the tip of the spear with this agenda.
[49:22] Kim Monson: Quick question, because I, so you mentioned girls wrestling.
[49:26] Kim Monson: I thought wrestling was a boy's sport, and I'd always been uncomfortable with girls wrestling in a boy's sports, and as we're looking at now where we're at, I don't think girls should wrestle in boy's sports.
[49:39] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: No, and there's actually, there's a whole, there's a whole sports for wrestling that's just for girls.
[49:47] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I did not know that.
[49:49] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Yes, and they do really well, and they enjoy it, and they get to win competitions and medals and trophies and advance, and they can even win.
[49:59] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: win.
[50:00] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: scholarships.
[50:00] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And so again, it goes back to your daughter's work and say so hard to be a really great wrestler.
[50:08] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And now she gets kicked out.
[50:11] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: She lost because she had to compete.
[50:14] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: She had to wrestle a boy.
[50:17] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And so that is not fair.
[50:21] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And that is what Title IX is all about.
[50:23] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And that's what we need to talk about.
[50:27] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You know, I get, I have my own views on this whole transgender.
[50:30] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We've just turned everything upside down where the medical industry has always approached everything from assess, assess, assess, and then treat.
[50:41] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And now when it comes to gender dysphoria, the law in Colorado says you must affirm.
[50:50] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You must affirm and you can't do anything else.
[50:51] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So where does that leave the treatment.
[50:55] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So that's why these laws, you know, as soon as someone says they're trans, they're trans.
[51:00] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: They're now protected by all these laws, when the reality is they should be going through treatment for gender dysphoria, because, overwhelmingly, these kids have other underlying issues and they work through it and they come out accepting their body the way it is.
[51:17] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: This whole term of gender is some post-modernism construct.
[51:22] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You know, for me, it's sex.
[51:24] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Are you male?
[51:25] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You're female.
[51:25] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: That's your sex.
[51:27] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Your gender is just some word they use to just muddy the waters, in my opinion.
[51:34] Kim Monson: Well, and watching legislation with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, there is this whole agenda regarding that whole gender thing down at the statehouse.
[51:41] Kim Monson: Two texts that have come in, one from Jenny.
[51:44] Kim Monson: She said the murder of logic has taken place in today's discourse.
[51:49] Kim Monson: And I'm thinking in your situation, you're not even having public discourse on these issues, Nancy Rumfeld.
[51:58] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And it's going to be interesting.
[52:02] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We're probably going to have a lot of people signing up for public comment.
[52:07] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Everybody deserves to provide comment and feedback to their government, which that's what public education is.
[52:13] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We're a government.
[52:14] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: So I will sit and respectfully listen to everybody that speaks tonight.
[52:19] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Some of it will be difficult.
[52:21] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Some of it won't.
[52:22] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: I'm hoping that after tonight that we'll be able to put this behind us and start focusing on all of these important issues we do need to deal with, which is Title IX compliance, the budget, discipline, student reading.
[52:37] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Can we get kids to read?
[52:40] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Let's focus on the real, important issues and stop with the hate and division.
[52:47] Kim Monson: So, nancy rumfeld, what do you happen to know off the top of your head?
[52:52] Kim Monson: The reading and math proficiency numbers for thompson school district.
[52:58] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: Um, on average, you know we are below 50%for third grade reading.
[53:07] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And you have to think about it.
[53:09] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: When you leave third grade and you go into fourth grade, if you're two or more grade levels behind, how well are you going to do in math?
[53:18] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And the data supports that.
[53:19] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: If you cannot read, you also cannot do math.
[53:23] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And so Thompson is much like many other districts in the state where we We seem to have problems figuring out how to get kids to be able to read.
[53:36] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And it's because we take the money, and in my opinion, we put too much in admin and too much in some of these other programs, and we should be spending a lot, putting more reading interventionists in the schools that need them.
[53:49] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: That's what we need to do.
[53:52] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: But, again, you have to be able to have that kind of conversation with the entire board.
[53:57] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And so we need to stop with this majority minority.
[54:01] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We're all elected to represent our constituents.
[54:03] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And number one, focus on the classroom.
[54:08] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: What is best for the classroom?
[54:09] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And that's it.
[54:11] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We're not here to do any social engineering or any of that other stuff.
[54:15] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: We're supposed to educate.
[54:16] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: That's it.
[54:18] Kim Monson: Okay, Nancy Rumfeld, this came in from Sandra.
[54:20] Kim Monson: She said, excellent showing guests.
[54:22] Kim Monson: Our dear Nancy Rumfeld has put it on the line by serving our country.
[54:27] Kim Monson: Thank you, Nancy, for serving on Thompson District School Board in these trying times.
[54:31] Kim Monson: She says she'll be there tonight to support you.
[54:37] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You can always go to tsd.
[54:42] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: organd click on board meeting and then follow the links.
[54:46] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You can do a phone- incomment today up until 3 p.
[54:49] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: m.
[54:49] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: if you'd like to phone in some words of support.
[54:52] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: You can also send emails to the entire board and talk about what we should be focusing on, words of support.
[54:59] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: If you're here locally, you can show up to the district building, 800 South Taft, around 4 p.
[55:05] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: m.,stand in line, get a ticket to enter, and sign up for public comment.
[55:10] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And we just need to remember, this is about the kids for the kids, and that's why we're here.
[55:15] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And that's in Loveland, correct?
[55:16] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: This is in Loveland, 800 South Taft.
[55:20] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: In Loveland is where the school board meeting is tonight.
[55:23] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: And we just need to, like I said, keep the focus on the kids.
[55:28] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It's not about us grownups and our issues.
[55:29] Paula Beard / Nancy Rumfelt: It's about the kids.
[55:31] Kim Monson: Nancy Rumfeld, thank you for standing in the gap for our children, and good luck tonight.
[55:39] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is from Goethe, and he said this, To the world you might be one person, but to one person you might be the world.
[55:48] Kim Monson: Kindness is the golden chain by which our world is bound together.
[55:52] Music/Outro: So today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and like superman stand for truth justice and the american way my friends you are not alone god bless you god bless america and stay tuned for our number two to this great unknown i don't want no one to cry but tell them if i don't survive The views and opinions expressed on KLZ 560 are those of the speaker, commentators, hosts, their guests, and callers.
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[57:04] Show Announcer: It's The Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
[57:16] Kim Monson: The socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing and water, what it means is that government controls it through rules and regulations.
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[57:56] Kim Monson: And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show.
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[58:20] Kim Monson: Happy wednesday, kim boy, I tell you nancy rumfeld, who was our featured guest in our number one board director with thompson school board and she's going to be in this meeting tonight.
[58:33] Kim Monson: Regarding: she just wrote a wore, a t- shirt.
[58:36] Kim Monson: Real women rock and I guess this month is women's month and those probably pushing women's month now are saying they can't define what a woman is.
[58:47] Kim Monson: It all seems a little crazy to me, but she wore that t- shirtand her other board members took a real issue with that so very important discussion.
[58:59] Kim Monson: You can hear that as it's rebroadcast today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon.
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[59:46] Kim Monson: Our word of the day is in indefatigable.
[59:50] Kim Monson: And it is I- N-D-E-F-A-T-I-G-A-B-L-Eas in meticulous.
[59:54] Kim Monson: or number two, showing no signs of weariness even after long, hard effort.
[60:00] Kim Monson: I would say that Nancy Rundfeld is indefatigable in her pursuit of representing students and families at Thompson School District as one of their board members.
[60:18] Kim Monson: Your challenge is to use the word indefatigable as spelled I- N-D-E-F-A-T-I-G-A-B-L-Ein a sentence today.
[60:23] Kim Monson: Our quote of the day is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, born in 1749, died in 1832.
[60:32] Kim Monson: And he was a German polymath, so interested in all kinds of things.
[60:38] Kim Monson: He said, the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too.
[60:44] Kim Monson: Whatever you think you can do or believe you can do, begin it.
[60:48] Kim Monson: Action has magic, power, and grace.
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[60:58] Kim Monson: The three that we took positions on this this week were house bill 25- 12- 14- the appropriate use of prison beds, and we are a no on that at cut senate bill 25- 148.
[61:12] Kim Monson: Modify modifications to campaign finance requirements.
[61:15] Kim Monson: This would hire I think of 15 additional full- timegovernment employees on the backs of business registration.
[61:25] Kim Monson: And Senate Bill 25- 196,insurance coverage preventative health care services.
[61:30] Kim Monson: I think that this is looking into the future to make sure that insurance companies are mandated to pay for abortions and for transgender transitioning.
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[62:13] Kim Monson: And we look at these issues, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[62:21] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[62:24] Kim Monson: And it's not compassionate to take other people's stuff.
[62:27] Kim Monson: And whether or not, I would say it's not compassionate or altruistic to take other people's stuff via force.
[62:35] Kim Monson: And in the first hour, we go through that long list.
[62:38] Kim Monson: And if something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it.
[62:43] Kim Monson: On the show, we focus on the issues, and we'll talk about the people pushing those issues.
[62:47] Kim Monson: We're really trying to stay out of the personalities and the fighting and all that, and that happens in politics on a pretty regular basis.
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[63:13] Kim Monson: And we get to have all these discussions because of our sponsors.
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[63:24] Kim Monson: He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
[63:33] Kim Monson: When interest rates were low, I remember you sitting right here in the studio.
[63:40] Kim Monson: Some people got interest rates locked in below 3%, and they were being held artificially low.
[63:52] Kim Monson: Are they being held artificially high now?
[63:56] Lorne Levy: I don't think they're being artificially held high.
[64:00] Lorne Levy: What we had before, when they were really low, is we had a Fed that was being what we call the buyer of last resort of mortgage securities.
[64:09] Lorne Levy: So, even though Wall Street maybe didn't have a taste for them being that low interest rates, Wall Street might not want to buy loans in the twos and threes on the long term.
[64:19] Lorne Levy: So the Federal Reserve was buying them, and they haven't been buying them in a very long time.
[64:24] Lorne Levy: if anything, they've been selling them off their balance sheet.
[64:28] Lorne Levy: So the market is more of a normal market now, which is the reason why I think they're not coming down as fast as people might want, even the president, because where it was an abnormal market with a buyer of last resort, like you're saying, that buyer is not there anymore to drive the rates down.
[64:44] Lorne Levy: So now we're seeing true market action and the market determines what they want rates to be.
[64:49] Lorne Levy: And they want them, in the sixes and maybe even in the low sevens when they compare them to what they can get from U.
[65:01] Lorne Levy: So you can lend your money to the U.
[65:03] Lorne Levy: 3%,which is risk- freebecause they'll just print more money.
[65:08] Lorne Levy: Whereas a mortgage, someone could default on.
[65:09] Lorne Levy: So an investor is going to want higher interest rate on that than 4.
[65:13] Lorne Levy: 3%totake the risk of a default potentially.
[65:16] Lorne Levy: So I think we're in a normal market now, whereas before we were not.
[65:21] Kim Monson: What about, you and I have talked about institutional buyers that had come in and been buying houses up in these markets.
[65:30] Kim Monson: Are you still seeing that happen, Lorne?
[65:34] Lorne Levy: Not nearly as much as they were before.
[65:36] Lorne Levy: And again, I just had this conversation with a customer yesterday.
[65:38] Lorne Levy: He was asking because he's an investor.
[65:40] Lorne Levy: And what was happening before is those guys were also paying cash for homes at a large scale and then putting debt back on them, getting mortgages after the fact, but they too were getting low- rate mortgageson investment properties.
[65:55] Lorne Levy: So when they add the rent in, their return on investment, what they refer to as a cap rate, was really good for their investors as they're paying out dividends.
[66:02] Lorne Levy: Now, if those guys go to put debt on those very same properties, they're looking at investment rates in the mid- sevenths, whichdoesn't work for their math as far as their cap rates as much, and to give them such a good return on the investment to their investors, so they're not buying them as much as they were before, not to any scale like that.
[66:21] Kim Monson: Okay, I'm also seeing, which is a good thing- that's opened them up for more.
[66:26] Lorne Levy: You know, people like that want to live in the homes.
[66:29] Kim Monson: You know and you you know how much I love people being able to create wealth by home ownership and I am seeing, at least in my neighborhood, more for sale signs.
[66:40] Kim Monson: So with more supply, these people that are selling homes will have to get a little bit more creative as they compete for buyers.
[66:52] Lorne Levy: I mean you hear Karen say all the time: Karen Levine, you know, if you price your home right and looks good, and it's done well, they're selling quick still and sometimes with multiple offers.
[67:00] Lorne Levy: I've had a couple purchases go through this week where people were making offers on a home and they were, you know there wasn't maybe eight to ten offers, but there was one or two competing bids, um, on a nicely done home that was priced correctly.
[67:15] Lorne Levy: Um, you know there still may be people who think there's going to be way high bidding and maybe they overprice it, but I, you know if it deserves it, done right.
[67:25] Lorne Levy: There is pent-up demand because there's been such a long time of not a lot of inventory of homes that there are buyers out there and there is pent-up demand.
[67:33] Lorne Levy: So so far, when these new listings are coming in, we still only have maybe a two or three month supply of homes.
[67:37] Lorne Levy: We're not seeing them flood the market to where they're just sitting stagnant unless there's something not 100%right, you know, with either the price or the property itself.
[67:47] Lorne Levy: And I think it comes back to this, what we call this new norm, where I think for a long time, Kim, people thought, well, I'll just wait till rates come back down again.
[67:55] Lorne Levy: And I think now they're getting used to the fact that they probably won't come back down drastically.
[68:00] Lorne Levy: And, you know, If they want to own a home, jump in now and then refinance later if the rates do come down.
[68:05] Kim Monson: And getting pre- qualifiedis a great idea.
[68:08] Kim Monson: And so how could people do that by giving you a call?
[68:13] Lorne Levy: Yeah, they just call us at 303- 880-8881.
[68:15] Lorne Levy: And most of the time, I would say almost all the time, when I talk to an agent who is selling a home that I represent the buyer on, they're asking me questions about that buyer because they may have another buyer they're competing with.
[68:27] Lorne Levy: And they want to know the ability to close of that buyer.
[68:29] Lorne Levy: And so you have to get pre- qualified,sometimes even pre- approvedor an underwriter for that listing agent.
[68:35] Lorne Levy: That's what they want to hear so that they accept your offer and not somebody else's.
[68:39] Lorne Levy: So it's extremely important to do that.
[68:42] Kim Monson: And that number with Lorne Levy is 303- 880-8881.
[68:45] Kim Monson: Lorne, we'll talk with you next week.
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[71:19] Kim Monson: We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[71:25] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[71:28] Kim Monson: It is wednesday, so that means it's a trent loose wednesday.
[71:32] Kim Monson: Trent is a sixth generation farmer and rancher who continues to stand for the people that feed and fuel us.
[71:43] Kim Monson: We take all these things for granted.
[71:45] Kim Monson: We've taken for granted affordable and abundant food supplies at our grocery store, affordable fuel for our car.
[71:53] Kim Monson: All those things we've taken for granted.
[71:56] Kim Monson: And hopefully we're going to get this turned around.
[72:14] Kim Monson: Well, oh, where does your mother live?
[72:20] Trent Loos: She lives right there where the first loose came to from Germany in 1839.
[72:33] Kim Monson: So you weren't out there then, normally you're all over the, seems like the country on all this, but you had some homework.
[72:40] Trent Loos: Well, actually, I do have something else that I did that aired today, and it's ironic because I know about Nancy, your first hour guest.
[72:50] Trent Loos: And my Trend on the Loose program that aired this morning is probably one of the best I've ever done.
[73:00] Trent Loos: And it has zero to do with me, Kim.
[73:04] Trent Loos: I was at a high school in Marcus, Iowa.
[73:10] Trent Loos: And this high school is talking upon themselves with two industrial arts teachers to give these kids skills in this high school that want to be a part of their industrial arts program in SkillsUSA.
[73:22] Trent Loos: And so I hope people take the time to go find this and watch it.
[73:28] Trent Loos: And I'll post it on my Substack Get today.
[73:31] Trent Loos: But they had a construction division where they're actually building little buildings.
[73:38] Trent Loos: They have an extensive, very extensive welding and everything you can possibly do with welding.
[73:44] Trent Loos: And then in another part of this building, they had a tool and die maker where they're making the components, the machinery work.
[73:59] Trent Loos: It wasn't Case IH, then, excuse me, it was just Case.
[74:03] Trent Loos: At a 1979 Case tractor that a gentleman, a farmer, had died, and the family donated it to the school, and these kids have rebuilt the engine, and now they've got to paint it and get it going on.
[74:14] Trent Loos: And, you know, I'm thinking about how much money we waste in our public school systems.
[74:21] Trent Loos: When I say that, when I say waste, we're spending a lot of money, and we're not accomplishing development of skills or proficiency in the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic.
[74:33] Trent Loos: And I go to this school, and it is absolutely incredible what these two ag teachers, who are not ag teachers, excuse me, industrial art teachers, are doing that are 33 years old and inspiring these kids.
[74:46] Trent Loos: And if you want to know how effective it is, there's roughly 200 students in this high school and 167 of them are part of this industrial arts program.
[74:58] Trent Loos: That tells you that it is something that they want to be a part of, and the culture is right.
[75:03] Trent Loos: That is what needs to happen in our school systems, whether they be private, charter, or public all across this country.
[75:11] Kim Monson: And my father, a farmer, German farmer, or a farmer of German heritage, he could do anything.
[75:20] Kim Monson: And I remember as a kid being out in his workshop with him, and he had a welder.
[75:27] Kim Monson: And he's like, okay, kids, step back.
[75:33] Kim Monson: I thought everybody's dad could weld.
[75:35] Kim Monson: That's actually not the case, and it's a very important skill.
[75:38] Trent Loos: Uh, don't tell kelly about this, but you know it inspired me too.
[75:46] Trent Loos: And I say don't tell kelly, because if, if she knows and she'll think I can be mr handyman in all respects, you can be.
[75:58] Trent Loos: That's not very old and I've been using it in some time.
[76:02] Trent Loos: During the winter it locked up on me and we have a guy who's absolutely fantastic at taking care of these chainsaws.
[76:07] Trent Loos: But I was thinking that if these high school, these 15- year-oldkids in Marcus Iowa can go to school and learn all of these trades and skills, I'll be able to take this chainsaw apart and get it fixed without taking it to Mr.
[76:22] Trent Loos: Zeller, Rod Zeller, and have him fix it.
[76:24] Trent Loos: So I spent an hour and a half last night getting that chain tore apart, rebuilt, not didn't rebuild the engine.
[76:35] Trent Loos: It took me an hour and a half getting that done.
[76:37] Trent Loos: But I never had so much fun cutting cedar trees after I fixed that chainsaw myself.
[76:45] Kim Monson: Yeah, there is that satisfaction of being able to do a job yourself.
[76:49] Kim Monson: And that's one of the things that is.
[76:52] Kim Monson: Just robbing these children of all of these things they could learn by trying to confuse them with all of this gender stuff is tragic.
[77:04] Kim Monson: Tomorrow, Trent Loos, I'm going to have a Broke It on Daily Wire.
[77:10] Kim Monson: And they wanted me to have the next story on that here in Colorado.
[77:18] Kim Monson: We're going to have the mom on the show with us tomorrow with Lori Gimmelstein with the Colorado Parents Advocacy Network.
[77:26] Kim Monson: Down in Durango here in Colorado, this woman's 17- year-olddaughter.
[77:32] Kim Monson: And, and I know moms and daughters can have difficult times- and the daughter actually went to a teacher.
[77:40] Kim Monson: She's living with a teacher and the teacher's trans husband.
[77:44] Kim Monson: I don't know exactly what that is exactly, but anyway, the mother has tried to get her, her daughter, back and that's not happening right now.
[77:56] Kim Monson: So we're going to be talking about that story.
[77:58] Kim Monson: It was on daily wire and we will be the next one to break that story and that's going to happen tomorrow.
[78:07] Trent Loos: I have no idea what that's about, and it's time just to slap people in the face and say, get real and start developing something that really matters and going to prepare you for life.
[78:17] Kim Monson: And I come from a long line of people that built things, created things, and worked with their hands.
[78:25] Kim Monson: So using the word created, producer Joe and I always have a very early morning call to prepare for the show.
[78:35] Kim Monson: And we got into this whole discussion about Christ and the cross and God.
[78:40] Kim Monson: And I told Joe that this has been really a recent, within the last few years, aha for me regarding when God says in the Bible that we are created in his image.
[78:53] Kim Monson: Trent, I used to think that that meant two arms, two legs, whatever.
[78:57] Kim Monson: But I think what it really, really means, and that may be the case, but what it really means is God is a creator.
[79:05] Kim Monson: And if we're in his image, then we create as a farmer.
[79:12] Kim Monson: We take care of our livestock and help them, our livestock, grow.
[79:20] Kim Monson: my dad always said, I want to take care of my family and I want to feed the world.
[79:23] Kim Monson: And so if we are in the image of God, we are creators.
[79:28] Kim Monson: So those that want to destroy is the opposite of what God has in plan for us.
[79:33] Kim Monson: And so that was a really, I said to Joe, my, this is a heavy discussion on this early in the morning.
[79:42] Trent Loos: Yeah, well, it's a discussion we probably should have every morning because it's our responsibility to take care of his creation and provide for those who need it.
[79:55] Kim Monson: Well, absolutely, we provide for the essentials.
[79:58] Kim Monson: And I hope I didn't hear him jump off.
[80:00] Kim Monson: So I'm going to go ahead and go to break here.
[80:03] Kim Monson: And just in case we lost Trent, I want to get him back on.
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[82:50] Kim Monson: And check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website.
[82:55] Kim Monson: They're hosting their second annual Marine Memorial Golf Tournament, May 15th, at the Ridge in Castle Pines North.
[83:03] Kim Monson: There's a limited amount of spots and it'll be a great day to support the Marine Memorial and also, if you're a golfer, play a great golf course.
[83:16] Kim Monson: And again, more information: us MC Memorial foundation, org Trent loose.
[83:20] Kim Monson: thought I lost you for just a moment.
[83:21] Kim Monson: You're back and you know him, sixth generation farmer and rancher.
[83:25] Kim Monson: You can find him at Loose Tails Media and also on Substack.
[83:30] Kim Monson: And this came in from one of our listeners, Lynn.
[83:33] Kim Monson: He said, Arnold, Nebraska has a great program where they are teaching kids how to use a CNC router to make and market things to sell.
[83:43] Kim Monson: And he says I know because I trained them on how to run their cnc and incidentally they bought their machine from a company in colorado springs and that is arnold public schools.
[83:57] Trent Loos: You know where arnold nebraska is at.
[84:00] Trent Loos: No no, it's about 50 miles from my house and it is, uh, about the farthest thing from the urbanization of colorado springs as you can get at that school district.
[84:13] Trent Loos: Kelly could tell me, but I don't think they've got 200 kids in the entire school system.
[84:19] Kim Monson: Well, look at the creativity and innovation happening in these small schools.
[84:27] Kim Monson: And at this point, I would recommend those one room and two room school houses, the educations that those kids had.
[84:33] Kim Monson: And if you want to look at the eighth grade exam in 1898, I think it from Saline County, Kansas.
[84:42] Kim Monson: The kids could answer those questions and it brings new meaning to the having an eighth grade education.
[84:48] Kim Monson: Um, Trent Loos, you had some homework, though I just looked it up.
[84:52] Trent Loos: Kim, oh, you had you ever looked at it before?
[84:56] Trent Loos: No, I looked up the population of Arnold Nebraska: 591 people.
[85:03] Kim Monson: So is that arnold, or that's not for the whole county?
[85:08] Trent Loos: No, that's the town arnold is in custer county.
[85:11] Trent Loos: Custer county is a large county, but arnold sits, uh, well, you know where it's at.
[85:16] Trent Loos: It's halfway between stapleton and myrna.
[85:18] Kim Monson: Oh oh, that's what I was gonna say, of course, of course, I know where it is right.
[85:28] Kim Monson: Yeah, oh, I love it, oh, I love, I love rural colorado, rural america, but let's get over here.
[85:36] Kim Monson: I I think that you're trying to avoid me on this, because I've tried to bring this up several times.
[85:41] Kim Monson: Yes, you had homework, and that is emma lazarus, who, uh, she had written the poem where part of it is on the inscription on the statue of Liberty, and we were talking about it last week because one of the French parliamentarians said they wanted the Statue of Liberty back because of Donald Trump.
[85:59] Kim Monson: And then one of our listeners said that she was actually a socialist.
[86:10] Trent Loos: She was an absolute advocate for the Zionism within the Jewish community.
[86:16] Trent Loos: and part of that poem was placed on the bottom, the base of the Statue of Liberty in 1913, even though she wrote it, I believe it was 1883.
[86:27] Trent Loos: And she spent her entire, by the way, they put the poem on the Statue of Liberty base after she passed, so she didn't even know that that was there.
[86:39] Trent Loos: But she dedicated her entire life, despite growing up in New York City, to Jewish parents that were very much Akhenazi and Zionist, that she wanted in her lifetime to see the country of Israel formed.
[86:56] Trent Loos: And the truth of the matter is that the Rothschilds picked up what her activism was, and in 1947 they did what she wanted done.
[87:05] Trent Loos: Now, there's a lot of discussions that can take place about the Zionists within the Jewish religion.
[87:12] Trent Loos: And, you know, I find it interesting that there's a tremendous amount of data that the folks that are DNA of going back to the biblical Abraham are actually the ones in the Gaza and the Palestinians and the folks who occupy the Holy Land, Israel, do not even have the same DNA.
[87:32] Trent Loos: So that whole thing has just gotten really interesting for me, following up and doing my homework on Emma Lazarus.
[87:39] Kim Monson: Okay, so yes, I found that as well, that she was a Zionist, and that she had socialist tendencies.
[87:45] Kim Monson: But what I find interesting is many of those, well, I guess this was the late 1800s, but even Teddy Roosevelt Jr., or yeah, that he actually had been Republican, but then he became socialist as well.
[88:02] Kim Monson: And I know I'm just throwing this out at you, but what's your thoughts about him?
[88:10] Kim Monson: Yeah, because, as I had done research on him, I love that one poem about, or that that one quote about him, about the man in the arena.
[88:21] Trent Loos: Oh but yeah, but that's teddy roosevelt, not teddy roosevelt.
[88:27] Kim Monson: Oh, but died, uh, in world war ii, right around D-Day.
[88:40] Trent Loos: Not the man who points out how strong a man stumbles.
[88:46] Trent Loos: Not the man who points out actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs, who comes short again and again because there's no effort without error and there's no shortcoming.
[89:00] Trent Loos: But who does actually strive to do the deeds?
[89:03] Trent Loos: Who know no effort without error and there's no shortcoming.
[89:06] Trent Loos: But I have that posted on my in my office.
[89:12] Trent Loos: Yeah, I have that posted on my, so I do too, and and theodore roosevelt did so many things I do too, and and theater to me, and so I'm mixed because I've been a huge fan.
[89:28] Trent Loos: And then I learned more of a link to me.
[89:32] Trent Loos: And so I'm mixed because I've been, but the whole idea of conservation, he brought to the United States and his idea of conservation has been hacked.
[89:40] Trent Loos: But the whole idea of conservation, he brought to the United Hunter and believed in the outdoors and actually bought a ranch and moved to Medora, North Dakota.
[89:50] Trent Loos: And he said many times he would never become president had it not been for his time spent ranching in the badlands of North Dakota.
[89:57] Trent Loos: And that had not been for his time spent ranching in the Badlands of so much consternation in North Dakota and the Badlands.
[90:07] Trent Loos: He did not create yet of so much consternation in North Dakota and the Badlands.
[90:10] Trent Loos: Many of the resources that we have off limits to people.
[90:13] Trent Loos: And so many of the resources that we have off limits.
[90:21] Kim Monson: And then going over to Teddy Roosevelt Jr.
[90:25] Kim Monson: when I was over in Normandy as the guys were telling me this story is that on June 6, 1944, of course, his story is that out of Normandy to liberate Europe from the Nazis.
[90:49] Kim Monson: And he reportedly declared as his Higgins landing craft drifted about a mile from his targeted destination on Utah Beach the morning of June 6, 1944.
[90:59] Kim Monson: He says: well, the war will start the war from right here, so it's a remarkable story.
[91:04] Kim Monson: And he, he was killed in Normandy as well.
[91:11] Kim Monson: I got to get this, and then he was also awarded the Medal of Honor, which yesterday was Medal of Honor Day day.
[91:21] Trent Loos: I didn't know anything about Theodore Roosevelt Jr.
[91:24] Kim Monson: It's pretty, it's a fascinating story as well.
[91:26] Kim Monson: So anyway, I didn't, I didn't know we were going to get off over here on this discussion.
[91:34] Kim Monson: So let's get to our next thing that we said we would talk about when we were preparing for this.
[91:37] Trent Loos: It would be really strange if we actually talk about what you think we were going to talk about.
[91:41] Kim Monson: I'm going to keep trying because Zach always says, Kim, you have to make sure that you talk about what you highlight in the newsletter at least a little bit.
[91:55] Kim Monson: What about Donald Trump and public lands for housing that is affordable?
[92:03] Trent Loos: The most ridiculous thing he has said yet.
[92:05] Trent Loos: And he said a lot of ridiculous things, particularly on public lands for housing that is affordable.
[92:11] Trent Loos: It's the most ridiculous thing he has said yet.
[92:15] Trent Loos: And he's said a lot of ridiculous things, particularly in the last 30 days.
[92:25] Kim Monson: I look at all of this land out there.
[92:27] Kim Monson: And it seems to me like it would be great if everyday people could own their own little plot of land and start to create wealth for themselves.
[92:41] Trent Loos: because every bit of the federal land, and we're talking about one-third of the United States landmass, is owned by federal or state government.
[92:50] Trent Loos: But within that land that's owned by federal or state government, there are individuals who have had vested rights of that property.
[92:56] Trent Loos: And so in order to do this, you have to remove the vested rights of people who have been taking care of that land since about 1900, since the land office was created because the Department of Interior and the Bureau of Land Management was originally the land office.
[93:12] Trent Loos: So you're going to eliminate somebody else's rights, and in many cases that will be tribes that you're going to do that to.
[93:18] Trent Loos: And what is most interesting is somebody sent me just this week, not knowing that you and I were going to talk about this, they sent me a clip of Donald Trump before the election talking about freedom cities.
[93:31] Trent Loos: and it's not too hard to see where he's talking about freedom cities being 15-minute cities.
[93:38] Trent Loos: And the whole concept, and then he went into this little diatribe about we're going to take the Bureau of Land Management land, and then last week, Doug Burgum, he said that we're going to use this underutilized land to build new systems and sign an agreement with the housing director.
[93:57] Trent Loos: And I'm like, where are you going to go do this?
[94:01] Trent Loos: Are you going to go to the southeast Utah and a reservation land and build cities?
[94:05] Trent Loos: I was in Detroit, and I used to go to Michigan once a month and did a TV show for Michigan corn growers.
[94:12] Trent Loos: There are 40 square miles of vacant buildings in Detroit.
[94:18] Trent Loos: Why are we going to abandon a place where we could fix it up and go into a resource where we should be recovering a resource, whether that be oil, maybe it's just grazing, maybe it's land that's utilized for wildlife habitat, whatever the case may be, and build cities.
[94:38] Kim Monson: Well, the reason Detroit is where Detroit is is because of the government that has been controlling Detroit for all of these years.
[94:47] Kim Monson: And so I think in that is, and Democrats have run Detroit into the ground.
[94:52] Kim Monson: And we've got Democrats that are running Denver into the ground as well.
[94:57] Kim Monson: And so one of the things, though, Trent, is they are reducing, when I say they, that's PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties.
[95:06] Kim Monson: They have reduced the supply for single-family homes, increased demand through illegal immigration.
[95:17] Kim Monson: And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that housing gets unaffordable when that happens.
[95:23] Kim Monson: And so it seems to me, by expanding the options to build additional home, ownership is great.
[95:31] Kim Monson: Now I hadn't, I had not connected the dot with that, these would be um 15 minute or smart cities, and anybody that listens to the show knows that I think smart cities are a dumb idea, and so Certainly I would not support something like that.
[95:50] Trent Loos: Well, I think you should go research what he's been yakking about in terms of freedom cities, because it is a smart city.
[95:56] Trent Loos: He's even talking about a city without vehicles.
[96:00] Kim Monson: Okay, well, I'm going to have to look at that because one of our listeners said, we need a renewed Homestead Act.
[96:07] Kim Monson: The government should not own all of this land.
[96:09] Kim Monson: And so I do like that because, as you know, I spend a lot of time up in western Wyoming.
[96:17] Kim Monson: And as you drive in from the airport from Jackson into Jackson, there are acres and acres and acres for the elk refuge.
[96:28] Kim Monson: I'm not sure they have to have all of those acres for the elk refuge, that they could actually maybe use some of that acreage because Jackson's always talking about affordable housing.
[96:38] Kim Monson: There's a difference between affordable housing, which is government-controlled housing, and housing that is affordable.
[96:44] Kim Monson: And if they opened up some land for some new development, I think they could have some affordable housing and land for the elk refuge.
[96:53] Kim Monson: But instead, wildlife trumps everything regarding human life, from what I can see in that scenario, Trent Loos.
[97:04] Trent Loos: And yet our wildlife is struggling like it's never struggled before, because we have a government that doesn't manage their land.
[97:10] Trent Loos: And by the way, I agree it's unconstitutional for the government to own land.
[97:13] Trent Loos: But to turn this land into smart cities is not something I embrace.
[97:19] Trent Loos: I embrace the people who've been managing this land and have invested right in the resources in this land.
[97:26] Trent Loos: They should have the first option to purchase it.
[97:31] Kim Monson: As you know, I'm also a big proponent of individual rights, property rights, and I would never support coming in and usurping those rights for this as well.
[97:45] Kim Monson: But there's a lot of land out there that I think that we could get this figured out.
[97:50] Kim Monson: And we mentioned wildlife, and I talked with Kevin Lundberg about this yesterday.
[97:57] Kim Monson: But one of the Colorado wolves actually was killed legally and properly, 400 miles into Wyoming by authorities and apparently at Trent Loos.
[98:10] Kim Monson: These wolves cannot read a map, so we'll talk with him about that when we come back.
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[101:33] Kim Monson: Trent Loos is on the line with me.
[101:35] Kim Monson: Trent, I mentioned Teddy Roosevelt and then Teddy Roosevelt Jr.
[101:46] Kim Monson: And this is from Wikipedia, but it says, After serving in the Operation Torch landings in North Africa and the Tunisia Campaign, followed by participation in the Allied invasion of Sicily, Roosevelt was assigned as Assistant Division Commander of the 4th Infantry Division.
[102:02] Kim Monson: In this role, he led the first wave of troops ashore at Utah Beach during the Normandy landings in June 1944.
[102:09] Kim Monson: He died in France of a heart attack the following month at 56 years old.
[102:13] Kim Monson: At the time of his death, he had been recommended for the Distinguished Service Cross to recognize his heroism at Normandy.
[102:20] Kim Monson: The recommendation was subsequently upgraded, and he was posthumously the recipient of the Medal of Honor.
[102:28] Kim Monson: And again, like you, I didn't know anything about him until I'd gone to Normandy, so I just wanted to clarify that regarding Teddy Roosevelt Jr.
[102:37] Trent Loos: That's interesting that he died of a heart attack because of what he experienced a month previous, obviously.
[102:46] Trent Loos: His father wasn't a specimen of health either.
[102:49] Trent Loos: The family must have been plagued by some health challenges.
[102:55] Kim Monson: So that's why it's important to take your vitamins, take care of yourself.
[103:02] Kim Monson: Let's talk a little bit about wolves.
[103:05] Kim Monson: Apparently, these Colorado wolves cannot read a map, Trent Loos.
[103:08] Trent Loos: Well, uh, I actually talked to tim richard at the kremlin again this week and I'm really intrigued, because I had was just about 40 miles north of me, not far from arnold nebraska.
[103:25] Trent Loos: We're putting it on the map today, over there, comstock, another.
[103:27] Trent Loos: I think comstock is quite a bit smaller than arnold, because Comstock maybe got 250 people.
[103:34] Trent Loos: But there's a gentleman, Larry Council, who told me that there's been wolf sightings around Comstock, been a sergeant in that area right there in the sand hills of Nebraska.
[103:46] Trent Loos: And then five years ago, Wade Dearmon at Rose, Nebraska, which has a population of zero currently, he actually shot and killed a wolf on his property.
[103:56] Trent Loos: So that can only be coming from what is taking place not only in Colorado, but in Wyoming.
[104:03] Trent Loos: And anybody who understands normal animal behavior, those young males get kicked out of the band because, you know, that's what males do.
[104:13] Trent Loos: They kick the weak ones out and they go call them satellite males.
[104:17] Trent Loos: They go off trying to find a new girlfriend.
[104:21] Trent Loos: And so who knows how far they travel.
[104:23] Trent Loos: But this will have implications to people beyond just the live at kremlin, colorado.
[104:28] Kim Monson: Well, and I've talked to some people that have have said: but wolves have been always part of the ecosystem, so they're.
[104:37] Kim Monson: They think it it's a good idea to introduce them back in.
[104:43] Trent Loos: Well, we eliminated them because they are a vicious predator.
[104:50] Trent Loos: And if you talk to the folks who are wildlife enthusiasts and elk hunters or want to go into the Rockies or go into, take Nevada.
[105:01] Trent Loos: It ties into the whole Bureau of Land Management.
[105:03] Trent Loos: The state of Nevada is 87%owned by government, either federal or state government, 87% ofthe entire state.
[105:11] Trent Loos: And there is no control over predators and predators are decimating the deer population, decimating the elk population.
[105:19] Trent Loos: I got a friend that is an outfitter, does guided hunts in the Ruby Mountains at Lamoille, Nevada, and they're just frustrated more times than not.
[105:30] Trent Loos: If people want to come and hunt mountain lions, you can do it all day because the mountain lions are getting preferential treatment.
[105:36] Trent Loos: The predators are getting preferential treatment, and that is where you have to draw the line.
[105:41] Trent Loos: You can't give a predator preferential treatment.
[105:43] Kim Monson: Well, and I mentioned the elk refuge up near Jackson, Wyoming.
[105:48] Kim Monson: I find it so interesting that there are those that want to have a refuge for elk, but yet you're introducing predators in that kill the elk.
[106:00] Kim Monson: I'm not quite sure how those two things match up.
[106:02] Trent Loos: Well, really, all it's doing is keeping other people from utilizing those resources.
[106:10] Trent Loos: Because by being a refuge, you can't graze it.
[106:12] Trent Loos: You can't utilize the resource that's there.
[106:15] Kim Monson: Or land for housing that's affordable.
[106:19] Kim Monson: If we start to create more supply, then we start to address that demand.
[106:24] Kim Monson: And as one of our listeners said, the only way to make housing more affordable is to create more buildable lots.
[106:31] Kim Monson: One cannot argue with supply and demand.
[106:41] Trent Loos: And in the case of the Bureau of Land Management, why is that land still owned by the government?
[106:45] Kim Monson: Well, you have used the word Bureau of Land Management.
[106:49] Kim Monson: So is that really the appropriate way for this land?
[106:55] Kim Monson: I don't think the government should be owning land.
[107:00] Trent Loos: But why is it owned by the government now?
[107:05] Trent Loos: Because during the Homestead Act, nobody wanted it.
[107:08] Trent Loos: It's land that has very limited, if any, water resources.
[107:12] Trent Loos: The best case scenario, Las Vegas, is in the middle of a desert.
[107:18] Trent Loos: The biggest challenge to Las Vegas and their development is now water.
[107:21] Trent Loos: And I know ranchers 300 miles away who are losing their water rights on the Bureau of Land Management, land that they run on and they are taking care of and have for generations.
[107:32] Trent Loos: Because Las Vegas is the commercial urbanization and the demand for water is outpacing the resource that's readily available.
[107:41] Trent Loos: Most of the Bureau of Land Management land, this is a generalization but isn't true in most cases, is a place where you cannot build houses and increase the urbanization because the water resources are not there.
[107:56] Kim Monson: Well, and if that's the case, certainly that makes sense.
[108:02] Kim Monson: We had talked earlier in the show about us being creators, and I think if we really unleash creativity and innovation, we could, we could actually fix some of these issues.
[108:16] Kim Monson: So, for example, California, the Colorado River with the the Colorado water, or the the water pack with all of these western states, says that there's a certain amount of water that has to go down the Colorado, out a river to California.
[108:30] Kim Monson: Well, how about if California solves their water problems by going to the Pacific Ocean and doing some desalination, decreasing their demand, which would allow then more water upstream to be used for all of us.
[108:44] Kim Monson: I just think a little creativity and innovation might be a great idea on this.
[108:47] Kim Monson: Trent, I'm throwing that out there and you've got a minute.
[108:49] Trent Loos: Well, I think that we have places that can contribute to our housing issues.
[108:55] Trent Loos: We just need some innovation and creativity and fixing those up instead of abandoning them and going and creating more concrete condos and consumers, because that will not be beneficial to anybody.
[109:09] Kim Monson: This is a good spirited discussion.
[109:17] Trent Loos: com orasyou said, Loos Tales Media.
[109:20] Trent Loos: And you're going to want to find this show, Trent on the Loose, today.
[109:24] Trent Loos: Just search Trent on the Loose, March 25.
[109:28] Trent Loos: I know it's not today, but that's the day on the show.
[109:30] Kim Monson: Okay, and Loose is spelled L- O- O- S.
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