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[00:56] Kim Monson: Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body My friends, we were made for this moment in history And thank you to the team that I get to work with That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Teresa, Amanda And all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting Happy Friday to everybody here And okay, let's see We've got quite a day going here So let's just go ahead and jump into it We've got our word of the day And I went to the word of the day with the word is anodyne and it is spelled a-n-o-d-y-n-e and just a second there we go and it could be a medicine that relieves or allays pain anything that relieves stress or pain or something soothing the mind or feelings and I chose that because that was I was reading the piece that Wade Miller had published regarding the census, and he used that word anodyne in there.
[01:57] Kim Monson: And so I thought that would be a good word of the day to use today.
[02:04] Kim Monson: And our quote of the day, we go to Wesley Fox.
[02:09] Kim Monson: And this is from the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values.
[02:14] Kim Monson: And the center is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk.
[02:22] Kim Monson: They honor our Medal of Honor recipients.
[02:25] Kim Monson: And they also focus on teaching these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism.
[02:31] Kim Monson: And so every Friday I like to share a quote and a citation from one of the Medal of Honor recipients, and so we're going to do that today, and this is from Wesley L Fox, United States Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipient.
[02:50] Kim Monson: These are for actions that were taken on February 22nd 1969- and this is the citation said- for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, while serving as commanding officer of company A In action against the enemy in the northern A'shaw Valley.
[03:12] Kim Monson: Captain, then First Lieutenant, Fox's company came under intense fire from a large and well-concealed enemy force.
[03:21] Kim Monson: Captain Fox maneuvered to a position from which he could access the situation and confer with his platoon leaders.
[03:29] Kim Monson: As they departed to execute the plan he had devised, the enemy attacked and Captain Fox was wounded along with all the other members of the command group, except the executive officer.
[03:40] Kim Monson: Captain Fox continued to direct the activity of his company.
[03:44] Kim Monson: Advancing through heavy enemy fire, he personally neutralized one enemy position and calmly ordered an assault against the hostile emplacements.
[03:52] Kim Monson: He then moved through the hazardous area, coordinating aircraft support with the activities of his men.
[04:00] Kim Monson: When his executive officer was mortally wounded, Captain Fox reorganized the company and directed the fire of his men as they hurled grenades against the enemy and drove the hostile forces into retreat.
[04:11] Kim Monson: Wounded again in the final assault, Captain Fox refused medical attention, established a defensive posture, and supervised the preparation of casualties for medical evacuation.
[04:23] Kim Monson: His indomitable courage, inspiring initiative, and unwavering devotion to duty in the face of grave personal danger inspired his Marines to such aggressive action that they overcame all enemy resistance and destroyed a large bunker complex.
[04:39] Kim Monson: Captain Fox's heroic actions reflect great credit upon himself and the Marine Corps and uphold the highest traditions of the U.
[04:51] Kim Monson: He said, one must have good character, solid principles, and high ethical standards to inspire others to follow.
[05:00] Kim Monson: Fox, United States Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipient.
[05:04] Kim Monson: And I would really recommend that you have this Medal of Honor quote book at home.
[05:08] Kim Monson: And I recommend that you talk with your children and your grandchildren about what these men did.
[05:14] Kim Monson: They stepped forward when they saw that there was a situation, that they needed to protect those around them.
[05:22] Kim Monson: And they stepped forward and they took action.
[05:26] Kim Monson: And we are now in this big battle of ideas in America.
[05:30] Kim Monson: And we must step forward and take action.
[05:34] Kim Monson: I think this really is our 1775 moment as I continue to go through so many different headlines.
[05:39] Kim Monson: We have a great opportunity at this particular point in time, and Colorado is at the tip of the spear on all that is occurring out there, and so you were made for this moment in history, and we need to step forward for that.
[05:53] Kim Monson: So with that, I'd really recommend that you check out the website for the Center for American Values, and it is located in Pueblo, but they've.
[06:02] Kim Monson: They've got the great Medal of Honor Portraits of Valor down at the center, and then also great educational programs.
[06:09] Kim Monson: And then Drew Dix has started this great new podcast as well.
[06:14] Kim Monson: And you can get all of that by going to AmericanValuesCenter.
[06:20] Kim Monson: A couple of the headlines that I just wanted to hit was the Colorado governor, as you know, has called for an emergency session to fix the budget.
[06:32] Kim Monson: There's different numbers out there.
[06:33] Kim Monson: But that, in fact, we might be a billion dollars short.
[06:38] Kim Monson: And so, of course, one of the first places they're going to go is to you.
[06:41] Kim Monson: And that is the excess revenue that was collected regarding TABOR.
[06:47] Kim Monson: And TABOR is a constitutional amendment passed by the people of Colorado basically to try to keep the spending of government in a box at least.
[06:56] Kim Monson: And, of course, one of the first things they're going to do is probably take our tapered refunds and not give that back to you.
[07:04] Kim Monson: And, again, that is because of a really poor management here in Colorado.
[07:14] Kim Monson: Oh, the other thing I wanted to mention.
[07:16] Kim Monson: Remember when they're saying, Excel saying that we're going to have this, I have this green, I have that in air quotes, renewable energy.
[07:24] Kim Monson: and that it's going to save people money.
[07:27] Kim Monson: Well, this particular headline says, Xcel Energy is considering raising rates in Colorado again.
[07:37] Kim Monson: There's something very special that's coming up here this month, and that is the 48th anniversary of the Marine Memorial.
[07:44] Kim Monson: As we just read the citation for Wesley L.
[07:48] Kim Monson: Fox, United States Marine Corps, It's so important that we remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for us.
[07:57] Kim Monson: And a woman and her team that is working diligently on that is Paula Sarlls.
[08:03] Kim Monson: She's a Gold Star wife, and she's also the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation.
[08:14] Kim Monson: And you are working diligently and your team for the 48th anniversary of the Marine Memorial.
[08:21] Kim Monson: So tell us a little bit about that.
[08:27] Paula Sarlls: We have singer Dave Bray coming to perform for us a bunch of patriotic songs.
[08:34] Paula Sarlls: And we'll have a food truck out there if you want to buy some dinner and just sit around and talk before the performance.
[08:42] Paula Sarlls: Just have a lot of really good veterans for young people to learn from, and we encourage people to talk to each other and share their stories, because that's important.
[08:59] Kim Monson: I'm really excited to get to emcee the event, Paula, because it is really a special event.
[09:02] Kim Monson: Dave Bray performed last year as well, and it's just beautiful.
[09:06] Kim Monson: It's out at 6th and Colfax, and I really recommend people.
[09:10] Kim Monson: I know we're all busy, but we need to take time to stop and reflect and honor.
[09:16] Kim Monson: And that's why this event is so important.
[09:20] Paula Sarlls: And just the setting with the sunset going down as the performance goes on, it's just spectacular.
[09:34] Paula Sarlls: Well, they can go to usmcmemorialfoundation.
[09:39] Paula Sarlls: and buy a ticket or they can get them at the door, but we prefer they do it ahead of time.
[09:49] Paula Sarlls: And you just show your proof of purchase at the gate and it's real easy.
[09:55] Kim Monson: Okay, and that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.
[09:59] Kim Monson: And also, just to give us a little information about the Buy a Brick program, And if you buy a brick, that could also go towards your ticket, yes or no?
[10:11] Paula Sarlls: If you buy a brick, if you donate using the Buy a Brick program, you get a VIP seat right up close and personal.
[10:24] Paula Sarlls: So we're going to really honor those people that get a brick this month.
[10:29] Paula Sarlls: And anybody that bought one since June is going to have a VIP seat.
[10:35] Kim Monson: And these bricks will be on one of the pathways of service that will be honoring our military or honoring a member of their family, or it could be for their own military service as well, correct?
[10:48] Paula Sarlls: And you can put yourself or somebody else on one brick, or you can get a bigger brick and put two or three people's information on there.
[10:59] Paula Sarlls: So it's really very flexible, and we're open to help people if they want to call, and we can help them with their purchase.
[11:08] Kim Monson: And again, what is that website, Paula Sarlls?
[11:19] Kim Monson: Again, that's usmcmemorialfoundation.
[11:22] Kim Monson: Paula, I will see you on the 23rd, and I'll talk with you next week.
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[14:02] Kim Monson: Indeed, it is Friday and welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
[14:09] Kim Monson: Thank you so much for joining us and we mentioned the USMC Memorial Foundation and again I wanted to give you that website that is usmcmemorialfoundation.
[14:19] Kim Monson: And then also the other non-profit that I just totally feature on the show is the Center for American Values, and that website is americanvaluescenter.
[14:28] Kim Monson: org and on the line with me is Nancy Rumsfeld, and she is Rumfeld.
[14:36] Kim Monson: There's no S in there, is there, Nancy?
[14:44] Kim Monson: People want to put one, but there isn't one.
[14:46] Kim Monson: I think I've wanted to, and as I was preparing, I'm like, wait, there's no S in there, and then I did that.
[14:51] Kim Monson: So it's Nancy Rumfeld, and she has been serving the people up in the Loveland area, the Thompson School District, as a school board member and has some information for us.
[15:04] Kim Monson: Tell us a little bit about how long have you been on school board there in Thompson Valley?
[15:14] Nancy Rumfelt: And first, my usual disclaimer, I'm here representing and speaking of my own personal opinion and viewpoint.
[15:20] Nancy Rumfelt: But it's been an interesting four years, especially since there's several, many times, 6-1 votes.
[15:31] Nancy Rumfelt: And this newest one with the bond is the latest 6-1 vote.
[15:37] Nancy Rumfelt: And I want to let your listeners understand, this is really important to everyone, what happened in Thompson this week.
[15:44] Nancy Rumfelt: because I believe it will happen in other school districts and other localities as well, like Denver, other cities and stuff, where they're trying to say that they want to pass a bond with no tax increase, but they're also trying to circumvent TABOR, and I think we're going to see a lot of that happening at this special session.
[16:05] Nancy Rumfelt: So TABOR is critical to the citizens of Colorado, and they've made that clear, and the bureaucracy and other elected officials, they don't seem to care what the voters and the taxpayers think.
[16:19] Kim Monson: You know, Nancy, well, first of all, four years.
[16:21] Kim Monson: So does that mean you're up for an election?
[16:29] Nancy Rumfelt: So I get to have the joy of serving with these others for two more years, and they get the joy of serving with me.
[16:41] Kim Monson: First of all, there's going to be all kinds of TABOR questions, so tax questions, that are going to be on Coloradans' ballots this November.
[16:52] Kim Monson: And people need to be paying attention.
[16:53] Kim Monson: We look at the federal debt and we're like, oh my gosh,$ 37 trillion in debt.
[16:59] Kim Monson: But then on top of that is debt from our school districts and our communities.
[17:08] Kim Monson: And we need to say no to any new debt.
[17:11] Kim Monson: We need to start moving towards fiscal solvency here.
[17:15] Kim Monson: And so what we are seeing, first of all, is that all of these school districts and municipalities are kind of waiting until the last minute to refer this to the ballot.
[17:25] Kim Monson: because they don't really want to show their hand to the taxpayer.
[17:29] Kim Monson: And then many times the jurisdiction that's asking for to keep our money, or more money or debt that we have to pay off, is they already have in place PR firms that are going to try to get people to approve these bond measures.
[17:47] Kim Monson: It's time that we say no because people are hurting.
[17:52] Kim Monson: when they're sitting around the kitchen table trying to make ends meet.
[17:57] Kim Monson: Money's really tight for a lot of folks, Nancy Rumfelt.
[18:03] Nancy Rumfelt: It is, but more than that, I mean, this bond that they want to pass, we do need to do many things in the district with it.
[18:14] Nancy Rumfelt: My issue is why not just be honest and transparent with the taxpayer?
[18:20] Nancy Rumfelt: So they started off with no expected increase in the district's current property tax rate.
[18:28] Nancy Rumfelt: That, in my opinion, is impossible to comply with because buried at the very end of this, where no one's reading it anymore, it says, notwithstanding the above, may the mill levy be imposed in any year without limitation as to rate, but only in amounts sufficient to pay the principle.
[18:48] Nancy Rumfelt: So this is all predicated on our 2005 bond payment, Kim, is going away this year.
[18:54] Nancy Rumfelt: So they're saying, oh, we'll just keep that same payment in place.
[18:58] Nancy Rumfelt: But how do you borrow$ 10 million more and say that the interest cost is going to be more and you're going to collect more in taxes to pay the debt, but the tax, the rate's going to stay the same?
[19:12] Nancy Rumfelt: That math, simply, it It doesn't work, and you know they're going to increase taxes, and they are counting so heavily on assessed values continuing to increase, and if they don't, there's going to be a problem.
[19:27] Nancy Rumfelt: But worse than this, Kim, the voters here made so clear last year.
[19:36] Nancy Rumfelt: They're done with these generic descriptions that say, shall it be spent on this and that, and it's very generic, not specific.
[19:46] Nancy Rumfelt: They are done with these blank check bonds the way that they're written.
[19:51] Nancy Rumfelt: And the bureaucrats, they don't want to do it because that would mean they would be tied to it.
[19:58] Nancy Rumfelt: And when you look at their new bond page, it's just more of the same.
[20:03] Nancy Rumfelt: And my favorite, they always list, you know, the floor tiles that are broken or the ceiling tiles.
[20:14] Nancy Rumfelt: Because what, you can't go to Home Depot and get some ceiling tiles to replace?
[20:18] Nancy Rumfelt: You've got to wait until it's beyond ridiculous.
[20:25] Nancy Rumfelt: The real issue, Kim, that they don't address is how to take care of maintenance every year.
[20:31] Nancy Rumfelt: In 2005, when we did this first bond, it was$ 176 million of deferred debt.
[20:43] Nancy Rumfelt: We need serious changes instead of just playing all these word games with the voters and treating them like they're stupid.
[20:55] Nancy Rumfelt: And they want to understand where's their money going?
[20:59] Nancy Rumfelt: Because especially, like you said, they can't afford groceries.
[21:07] Kim Monson: And when you said$ 160 million in deferred debt, did you mean deferred maintenance?
[21:20] Kim Monson: And I think the voters, if their elected representatives and staff were honest with them, then you have an honest relationship.
[21:32] Kim Monson: and then voters, they can sit down and thoughtfully think about a bond package and say yes or no.
[21:39] Kim Monson: But the words in here, with no expected, aha, I think that that is disingenuous right there.
[21:47] Kim Monson: And then to your point, you look at the numbers, it's not possible.
[21:51] Kim Monson: Now, they may be betting on increased assessed valuations, but there's really two things.
[21:58] Kim Monson: If there are not increased assessed valuations, which are higher property taxes, then they can increase the mill levy.
[22:11] Kim Monson: Just, I can't remember, what's the bond package?
[22:18] Nancy Rumfelt: But the more important thing is, during the presentation this week, one of the bond writers actually said, But when they write these ballots, they really work on formatting it so the eye is drawn to the stuff that matters.
[22:32] Nancy Rumfelt: You know, like, what's it going to be spent on?
[22:34] Nancy Rumfelt: Because they're not going to read all the other stuff.
[22:36] Nancy Rumfelt: You know, like at the very end where it says it could be imposed any year without limitation.
[22:41] Nancy Rumfelt: Like, don't read that, people, because that says, well, it really could be a tax increase, but we don't want to tell you.
[22:57] Nancy Rumfelt: It says that the ballot language is supposed to start with the question: either shall taxes be increased or shall debt be increased.
[23:19] Kim Monson: And so who will be voting on, what area of Colorado will be voting on this, Nancy Rumfeld?
[23:27] Nancy Rumfelt: It will be the Thompson School District, which is all of Loveland, Berthoud, a small portion of southern Fort Collins, and a little bit of Weld County.
[23:41] Nancy Rumfelt: And again, I understand we need this money, but let's do it in a way that honors Tabor, respects the intelligence of our taxpayers, and is transparent with built-in accountability in the ballot language.
[24:00] Nancy Rumfelt: These are the people that we are accountable to.
[24:05] Kim Monson: And next question, what about results?
[24:08] Kim Monson: I've been looking at last year when there were so many different school districts asking for money, and I was looking at the proficiency numbers for the students for math and English.
[24:19] Kim Monson: Do you know, ballpark, what they are there in Thompson Valley?
[24:23] Nancy Rumfelt: For reading proficiency, on average, when you take all the schools together, the aggregate is over 40%.
[24:33] Nancy Rumfelt: But when you break it apart, we have too many schools that are under 30%.
[24:44] Nancy Rumfelt: And if they can't read and they can't, obviously, their math scores won't be proficient either.
[24:51] Kim Monson: And actually, 40%would be some of the better school districts from what I've seen.
[24:58] Kim Monson: But what that means is there are 6 in 10 kids in the Thompson School District that are not reading at proficiency level.
[25:07] Kim Monson: And reading is so important for success of life.
[25:09] Kim Monson: And I think that asking people to take on more debt when they're getting these kind of results, I think people need to think twice about that as well.
[25:21] Nancy Rumfelt: Well, also, the other thing is there's nothing even mentioned in here about doing the work needed for ADA compliance.
[25:27] Nancy Rumfelt: I mean, we have many issues in this district with ADA compliance.
[25:32] Nancy Rumfelt: We don't even respect parents who have kids with special needs.
[25:39] Nancy Rumfelt: They have to fight tooth and nail to get what is needed for their child to learn to the best of their ability.
[25:47] Nancy Rumfelt: Parents should not have to fight so hard to get what is needed for their child to be able to learn.
[25:56] Nancy Rumfelt: and that's what we need to focus on, not all these other things with all these cultural things that just aren't part of education.
[26:05] Nancy Rumfelt: We just need to get back to education and leave the other stuff to the parents, to other appropriate agencies like, you know, the health department.
[26:13] Nancy Rumfelt: Stop trying to be all things to all people and just educate the kids.
[26:19] Kim Monson: Okay, Nancy, your final thought on this, and thank you for bringing this to our attention.
[26:23] Nancy Rumfelt: Uh, my final thought is: um, I just say: everybody you know, look carefully at what will be on your ballot.
[26:32] Nancy Rumfelt: Read the language they're counting on you, not.
[26:36] Nancy Rumfelt: So this is how they slide things through and it's not right.
[26:41] Nancy Rumfelt: And look out for what's going to happen in this special session.
[26:44] Nancy Rumfelt: We need, we need, solid legislators at the capitol to protect us.
[26:54] Kim Monson: And these are such important discussions that we have because all of this really affects your life.
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[29:58] Kim Monson: Pleased to have on the line with me Wade Miller.
[30:00] Kim Monson: He is a senior advisor with the Center for Renewing America.
[30:08] Kim Monson: And he has spent more than a decade working with the conservative grassroots movement, campaigns, public policy development in Washington and on Capitol Hill.
[30:17] Kim Monson: And Wade Miller, welcome to the show.
[30:20] Wade Miller: Thank you so much for having me on again.
[30:23] Kim Monson: Well, I always learn a lot from you, Wade Miller.
[30:27] Kim Monson: And there's a lot happening in Washington, D.
[30:30] Kim Monson: So I wanted to ask you about a rescissions package, though.
[30:34] Kim Monson: Last time you and I talked, or maybe a few times ago, you had said that the Trump administration was going to kind of dip their toe in the water on a rescissions package on spending.
[30:46] Kim Monson: And then I saw a headline on that a few weeks later, and it looked to me like that was past.
[30:52] Kim Monson: And there was something critical that might happen in August.
[30:55] Kim Monson: So give us an update on that, please.
[31:00] Wade Miller: So the rescissions package was put forward.
[31:03] Wade Miller: And, of course, this was this is based off of a 1974 law in which Congress attempted to stop the presidency from being able to use impoundment authority.
[31:18] Wade Miller: Of course, I don't think that that was a constitutional action by Congress originally.
[31:23] Wade Miller: And I think that the Trump administration is going to look at using impoundment authority before the end of the year is up as well.
[31:28] Wade Miller: But the rescissions process came out of the Impoundment Control Act.
[31:33] Wade Miller: And so this is basically a process by which the president can put forward a recommended slate of spending cuts and then Congress approves them with a simple majority.
[31:43] Wade Miller: And the reason it's an attractive option is because it doesn't require 60 votes in the Senate.
[31:48] Wade Miller: It's a simple majority, 50 plus one vote margin to get those things done.
[31:54] Wade Miller: However, it turns out that some of these senators still don't like them, including some Republican senators.
[32:02] Wade Miller: And even though the votes were there for it to pass on the last package, it was not a popular process with, you know, seven or eight kind of the more moderate Republican senators who don't like this.
[32:14] Wade Miller: honestly, I just don't think that they like cutting spending is what it comes down to.
[32:20] Wade Miller: And they certainly don't like being jammed up on it by the president.
[32:23] Wade Miller: It's just outside of what they're used to.
[32:25] Wade Miller: So it's unclear to me because of that, if we're going to get another rescissions package this year, I think that there will be one.
[32:32] Wade Miller: I just don't know how significant it will be.
[32:36] Wade Miller: And I think because of that, you'll probably also see impoundment used.
[32:39] Wade Miller: Impoundment doesn't require congressional approval.
[32:41] Wade Miller: So we'll see how broadly they use that.
[32:45] Wade Miller: My guess is it will be not used broadly.
[32:47] Wade Miller: It will be used very narrowly on a small set of funding, because there will likely be legal challenges to that and court fights on the legality of using impoundment authority.
[32:57] Wade Miller: So they'll want to do this on the safest legal grounds that they can and pick an ideal candidate to have that fight.
[33:05] Wade Miller: all of that is to say that I think that a lot of this is also happening because there's now discussion of a second reconciliation package, which is different than rescissions.
[33:24] Wade Miller: Now, reconciliation is used for mandatory spending, not discretionary spending like all of the money for all the various agencies.
[33:31] Wade Miller: Mandatory spending is like Social Security, Medicare, and things like that.
[33:37] Wade Miller: So I think that there will be another reconciliation package.
[33:41] Wade Miller: It will not touch benefits for Social Security or Medicare.
[33:45] Wade Miller: There are some things that you can get out of: some additional cost savers out of Medicaid and some other mandatory program savers that they didn't get in the last reconciliation process.
[33:57] Wade Miller: So from a spending perspective, that's what I think the next month and a half looks like.
[34:03] Wade Miller: I think that you're going to see maybe a rescissions package, probably some sort of an impoundment used by the presidency, and then a new reconciliation process.
[34:14] Kim Monson: So, Wade, what I'm hearing you say, so we're$ 37 trillion in debt, and we've got, this is not sustainable, but you're saying that there are, well, Republicans, for sure, Democrats that do not want to cut spending.
[34:31] Wade Miller: Uh, and let me describe how this works.
[34:35] Wade Miller: So you've got jay badacharya who, by all accounts, during covid, was a national hero.
[34:41] Wade Miller: He really spoke the truth about the science that we were facing with that entire, you know, pandemic, and most of what he was saying in real time at that time turned out to be true.
[34:53] Wade Miller: So he's, you know, because of that- was an ideal candidate in many people's eyes to go run NIH.
[34:58] Wade Miller: Well, there's all sorts of woke funding at NIH.
[35:02] Wade Miller: And I think in some respects, the bureaucrats at NIH have kind of overpowered him and they have convinced him to, you know, put it in the ears of some senators that we need to release all of this NIH funding.
[35:17] Wade Miller: And they're doing it from the perspective of like, well, we've got to fund cancer research.
[35:21] Wade Miller: Does anyone really think that the Trump administration is not going to fund cancer research?
[35:26] Wade Miller: It's It's studies like studying tobacco stigma and bisexual adults in Haiti or, you know, that kind of stuff.
[35:34] Wade Miller: Is that really what we should be putting money towards when we're$ 37 trillion in debt?
[35:40] Wade Miller: And so these senators call in and get all that money released.
[35:43] Wade Miller: So that takes that money off of the table.
[35:47] Wade Miller: A lot of woke education grants were released.
[35:51] Wade Miller: So we can't use a rescissions package on that.
[35:55] Wade Miller: Probably a solid half of the Republican Party is not actually serious in the least about actually cutting spending.
[36:08] Kim Monson: I don't know what to say to that, Wade Miller, because this out-of-control spending is encumbering our children, our grandchildren with a debt that is going to be very difficult to pay off.
[36:24] Kim Monson: and I just don't quite know what to say about that.
[36:29] Wade Miller: Yeah, it's mind-boggling, especially when you look at what exactly would be cut, how any Republican, and honestly how many Democrats could object to, given the circumstance we're in, continuing to fund some of these things that honestly do not need to be funded, didn't need to be funded in the first place, even if we had plenty of money, But certainly if we're$ 37 trillion in debt.
[36:55] Wade Miller: And so now we have gotten a lot of cuts this year, and there will be more to come.
[36:58] Wade Miller: But we're having to exert extreme pressure to get enough votes to agree to those cuts.
[37:04] Wade Miller: And it should be a slam dunk, an easy layup for the Republican Party.
[37:10] Kim Monson: Next question that I get from a lot of people is, where is all the tariff money going?
[37:18] Kim Monson: Or have we started to collect tariff money?
[37:20] Kim Monson: because tariffs are in the headlines all the time.
[37:23] Wade Miller: Yes, they are going to pay now to debt.
[37:30] Wade Miller: So that means that money to fund operations of the government comes out of the general fund.
[37:37] Wade Miller: And then if there's more money in it, we're now having to borrow less.
[37:43] Wade Miller: So in an indirect way, it is paying down the increased amount of deficits that we would otherwise have.
[37:53] Kim Monson: Yeah, I forgot we've got deficit spending significantly, don't we?
[37:58] Kim Monson: OK, well, so what what do you anticipate here?
[38:06] Kim Monson: What what's your ear to the ground saying about August here?
[38:10] Wade Miller: Well, the Senate should immediately come back and they should either work until all the president's nominees are approved and confirmed, or they should formally recess so that the president can do a recess appointment of all of his currently nominated political appointees.
[38:29] Wade Miller: and just additional background on how bizarre it is that this isn't happening.
[38:35] Wade Miller: So normally what happens when elected officials go on recess is that it's not actually a recess.
[38:44] Wade Miller: They have what's called a pro forma session in which the House or the Senate gavel in, and then they quickly gavel out.
[38:52] Wade Miller: Or maybe they have a quick voice vote on the naming of a post office or something like that.
[38:58] Wade Miller: And so technically, Congress met that day, even though there were three people on the House floor or the Senate, and it wasn't everyone else is at home.
[39:06] Wade Miller: And this was a strategy that was used to prevent the opposite party from being able to use recess appointment power and just do whatever they want in a formal recess, because the president can have a lot of authority in a formal recess.
[39:21] Wade Miller: And so you never see formal recesses anymore.
[39:24] Wade Miller: But again, this is always supposed to be a strategy used against the opposition party.
[39:31] Wade Miller: We're now seeing Republican senators refusing to formally recess in order to prevent a Republican president from being able to do recess appointments.
[39:41] Wade Miller: And it's not even like it's a completely negotiable problem.
[39:46] Wade Miller: If there are three or four nominees that some Republican senators do want to have a formal hearing on and a formal vote on, they can negotiate that with the White House and just recess the point.
[39:58] Wade Miller: Everyone, except for those three or four.
[40:02] Wade Miller: So it's extremely bizarre what is happening in the United States Senate.
[40:07] Wade Miller: But when they come back, I'm hoping that they will be met with a release of a rescissions package.
[40:13] Wade Miller: They really need to get to work on coming up with significant cuts in the next reconciliation package.
[40:21] Wade Miller: They will have the National Defense Authorization Act, which will be an opportunity to codify anti-woke provisions into statutory authority.
[40:31] Wade Miller: In other words, putting into law a lot of the president's anti-woke executive orders with regard to DOD policy.
[40:40] Kim Monson: Just is there any names that I imagine there's no Democrats that are supporting the president on anything.
[40:48] Kim Monson: Do you want to share any of the names of these senators that are kind of thwarting the president's agenda?
[41:08] Wade Miller: But those are the major ringleaders of people who are making it difficult for, even if John Thune wanted to do this, and I'm not sure that he does, that they're making it difficult for him to go in that direction, even if he wanted to.
[41:23] Kim Monson: Well, it's important that we understand that.
[41:25] Kim Monson: Now, Wade Miller, when we come back, you've written a very important policy piece on this whole census thing.
[41:31] Kim Monson: And I've seen the census and the headlines.
[41:38] Kim Monson: It is a very detailed piece, but want to give the high points on it because it's really important.
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[45:40] Kim Monson: and on the line with me is Wade Miller.
[45:43] Kim Monson: He is a senior advisor at the Center for Renewing America, and this is an extensive piece that you have recently published regarding the census.
[45:52] Kim Monson: People can find that at your website.
[45:55] Kim Monson: Wade Miller, let's go through the high points or maybe it's the low points as we are learning that the 2020 census was really riddled with inaccuracies.
[46:07] Wade Miller: Yeah, so I'll just really quickly describe how it's supposed to work.
[46:11] Wade Miller: So you basically, the Census Bureau hires a bunch of people, they start planning how they get this out, they work with the post office, everyone to get the census out.
[46:20] Wade Miller: And then they have a process to follow up on households to double check, you know, was someone listed at a household and a college dormitory or a household and a senior living center, you know, something like that.
[46:34] Wade Miller: They try to make it as accurate as possible.
[46:37] Wade Miller: For example, the 2010 census was off by about 36,000 roughly nationwide.
[46:46] Wade Miller: And then they use that data to send it to the states, and the states use that data to then draw all of their, they get their apportionment for all of their congressional seats, which bleeds into the Electoral College.
[46:57] Wade Miller: Then they use that data to draw political maps.
[47:02] Wade Miller: And if a city or a municipality thinks data is wrong, there was a process by which they could say, hey, you have us listed as having 550 people.
[47:12] Wade Miller: And here's all of our property tax records.
[47:14] Wade Miller: So there was a process to make minor revisions to that data before it all went out and was then used.
[47:21] Wade Miller: In 2020, they radically changed the entire process.
[47:25] Wade Miller: And these were all people that were implemented by the prior administration, the Obama administration.
[47:30] Wade Miller: Most of these were Obama bureaucrats that did this.
[47:34] Wade Miller: And I think that the problem was is that no one in the first Trump administration really figured out what was going on until roughly 2020..
[47:41] Wade Miller: And by then, their efforts to change everything, it was just too late from an APA standpoint.
[47:49] Wade Miller: Well, one, they counted illegal aliens, which means that in states with a high level of illegal aliens, that provides you more voting power.
[48:02] Wade Miller: Now, remember, the Electoral College and political districts, so congressional districts, state house districts, those are supposed to be representative of voting power of the citizens that live there.
[48:18] Wade Miller: So if you have one district that has, you know, 350,000 citizens and another district that has 750,000 citizens, because the first district also has, you know, 400,000 illegal aliens or whatever, then that gives an unconstitutionally disproportionate amount of power to those citizens that live there because of the way that it was drawn.
[48:42] Wade Miller: But the biggest problem, and this is really the black hole of fraud and all sorts of partisan corruption, is the process known as differential privacy.
[48:56] Wade Miller: So what happens is the states are sent data, but all of the data below the state level, or most of it, is scrambled.
[49:06] Wade Miller: So you don't know what the accurate data is.
[49:10] Wade Miller: So one city may be listed as 500, but it could be actually 700.
[49:23] Wade Miller: And worse, the algorithm that dictates how all of this data is scrambled is not available to anyone, not even in the federal government, outside of specific Census Bureau employees that have a clearance.
[49:34] Wade Miller: So we don't know if the population data is actually accurate.
[49:40] Wade Miller: And that's one of the things they need to go back and look at.
[49:43] Wade Miller: And for instance, Texas, we already know Texas was miscounted.
[49:46] Wade Miller: It was under it was under counted by over five hundred and sixty thousand votes.
[49:50] Wade Miller: Now, remind you that the 2010 census was off nationwide by thirty six thousand.
[49:56] Wade Miller: Texas alone was miscounted by five hundred sixty thousand.
[50:00] Wade Miller: you even get to the differential privacy issue?
[50:02] Wade Miller: So one of the issues is if you do ask the question on citizenship and the next census, so the argument being we can account for that, and then we can apportion and draw political districts that don't account for them, only account for citizens.
[50:20] Wade Miller: Well, with differential privacy, you won't know how to do that because it scrambles the data.
[50:26] Wade Miller: In other words, we don't know where those illegal aliens are as a population matter within each state accurately.
[50:35] Wade Miller: So this is a bureaucrat-devised system that scrambles the data so that states are not actually able to make accurate political maps.
[50:48] Wade Miller: And this is one of the biggest complaints and why Stephen Miller and Trump want to read me the census is just from a differential privacy perspective, this is not correct.
[50:58] Wade Miller: And by the way, there's been lots of studies.
[51:00] Wade Miller: Harvard has openly admitted that this is an unconstitutional process.
[51:05] Wade Miller: Harvard is not a bastion of right-wing thought.
[51:10] Wade Miller: A lot of other academic institutions have figured out that the way that this process occurs is undercounting rural areas and overcounting bigger cities.
[51:23] Wade Miller: which moves voting power even further towards cities and further away from rural communities.
[51:28] Wade Miller: So this is why the president wants to republish the 2020 census, because if you undo the differential privacy scrambling of the data, get the accurate data, and then don't count illegal aliens for the purposes of representation, you can still count them for federal funding formulas that go out, in which programs that might apply to illegal aliens, they would qualify, or legal immigrants that qualify.
[51:56] Wade Miller: You can still do the federal funding formulas and get money out the door as required by statute.
[52:01] Wade Miller: But for the purposes of a politically drawn map for political districts and elections, you don't have to count them.
[52:08] Wade Miller: And so I think that the Trump administration wants to do that.
[52:11] Wade Miller: It's the right thing to do, just ignoring what the outcomes might be.
[52:15] Wade Miller: This is the way the census should run and it's the right thing to do.
[52:18] Wade Miller: Now, then it will probably help Republicans significantly in both the electoral college count and in the congressional count, because these maps and blue states especially heavily skew the political power away from red rural areas of their states and into the blue, heavier population areas of their states, which are the cities.
[52:40] Wade Miller: And if you make it so that that's not the case anymore, it's going to be a lot harder for the left to draw the maps that they way, that the way they have to give them unearned democrat seats, and it will be easier for republicans to draw maps that are more representative of their population, which will net increase republican share of seats.
[53:01] Wade Miller: It is a big deal because it represents a significant swing in congressional representation and the electoral college, and it's the right thing to do.
[53:11] Wade Miller: It's regardless of the partisan outcome.
[53:14] Wade Miller: It is actually how this instance is supposed to work.
[53:16] Wade Miller: It's how a Abortionment is supposed to work, and it's how congressional districts are supposed to be drawn.
[53:22] Kim Monson: So, Wade Miller, I think the big, broad middle of America, whether or not it is moderate Democrats or unaffiliated libertarians, conservatives, Republicans, I think that all of us want to have honest reporting.
[53:37] Kim Monson: I don't think that we want to live in a country where the people that are in, and I'll have air quotes, the elected office, are in elected office because of, I don't know, do you call this fraud or whatever the term is, but got there through nefarious actions.
[54:01] Kim Monson: I think people want to make sure that we are dealing from a point of honesty.
[54:09] Kim Monson: And I'd recommend that people read the piece.
[54:13] Kim Monson: But I think that it's a really important piece.
[54:15] Kim Monson: So your final thought on this, Wade Miller, and thank you for sharing this with us.
[54:19] Wade Miller: Yeah, I think that it's really important, if you want to ask the citizenship question, to make sure that political maps only represent citizens of the United States.
[54:28] Wade Miller: Then, one, you can advocate for asking that question on the next census.
[54:33] Wade Miller: I think that that's probably going to occur.
[54:36] Wade Miller: But differential privacy will negate a lot of what you're doing by asking that question.
[54:42] Wade Miller: If you don't get rid of differential privacy, it won't matter.
[54:47] Wade Miller: What everyone wants is accurate data going to the states.
[54:51] Wade Miller: The states are going to do what they're going to do at that point.
[54:53] Wade Miller: But at the very least, they need to have accurate data.
[54:57] Wade Miller: The population counts need to be accurate.
[54:59] Wade Miller: We need to know where those populations are at in the state.
[55:03] Wade Miller: And again, the algorithm that's scrambles all of this, we don't know.
[55:08] Wade Miller: So we don't know the variables, the values of those variables.
[55:12] Wade Miller: Is the data being scrambled by 40 percent or is it 2 percent?
[55:16] Wade Miller: Either way, it's scrambled and it's not accurate.
[55:18] Wade Miller: But what are these bureaucrats doing and what do they think that they could get away with?
[55:24] Wade Miller: And I'd really like to dig into that and figure that out.
[55:27] Kim Monson: OK, well, we'll have another conversation.
[55:29] Kim Monson: And again, that's Wade Miller with the Center for Renewing America.
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[59:18] Kim Monson: And we've got to start to have people say no, no to all of this bigger and bigger government, not only at the federal level, but at the local level as well.
[59:26] Kim Monson: As we talked with Nancy Rumfeld, a Thompson school board member, regarding a bond package that's going to be presented to the people.
[59:36] Kim Monson: It's disingenuous right off the bat with this particular language.
[59:40] Kim Monson: We'll probably see that on that almost$ 1 billion bond question that will be on the ballot here in Denver.
[59:49] Kim Monson: And it may say without increasing taxes, which is dishonest.
[59:54] Kim Monson: will have to wait and see the language, but that's what they do when they want to extend debt.
[59:58] Kim Monson: If the debt was paid off, your taxes would go down.
[60:00] Kim Monson: So if you extend the debt, your taxes will then go back up.
[60:04] Kim Monson: And I am so frustrated with PBIs nuancing the language and doing focus groups to figure out what they can put on a ballot question or an issue question to try to get people to vote for it, instead of just being honest and saying: this is what's going to happen.
[60:27] Kim Monson: And when you start at a situation of dishonesty, it's not going to improve from there.
[60:33] Kim Monson: So the answer has to be no on all this new debt right now, because we've got plenty of debt at the federal level.
[60:38] Kim Monson: We've got plenty of debt at the local level.
[60:42] Kim Monson: We need to get ourselves back into good financial health.
[60:47] Kim Monson: And so the anodyne to that is freedom and liberty.
[60:52] Kim Monson: Our quote of the day, I go to the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values in Pueblo.
[60:59] Kim Monson: Fox, United States Marine Corps Medal of Honor, born 1931, died in 2017.
[61:05] Kim Monson: This is actions he took on February 22, 1969.
[61:11] Kim Monson: He said, one must have good character, solid principles and high ethical standards to inspire others to follow.
[61:22] Kim Monson: And you can get that medal of honor quote book by going to the website for the center for american values, which is located in pueblo, not to be confused with the center for renewing america, which is located back in the washington dc area, and we talked with wade miller on that.
[61:39] Kim Monson: Andrew dix, co-founder of the center and a medal of honor recipient, is doing a podcast series.
[61:45] Kim Monson: And his perspective, those conversations are so good because he has so many years of experience and of wisdom.
[61:55] Kim Monson: That website is AmericanValueCenter.
[62:01] Kim Monson: And our Second Amendment is so important.
[62:04] Kim Monson: It was put into the Bill of Rights in our Constitution to protect all of our other rights.
[62:10] Kim Monson: And that is why the work of the Second Syndicate is so important, and I appreciate their sponsorship of the show.
[62:16] Kim Monson: We have Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins on the line.
[62:31] Kim Monson: Apparently there was a fundraiser or something here in the metro area this week.
[62:37] Teddy Collins: Apparently there was a, if we're talking about the anti two way rally that was being held that Bennett was invited to.
[62:45] Teddy Collins: Who's probably going to be our next or the main gubernatorial candidate that's running for the Democrats.
[62:52] Teddy Collins: Yeah, no, it's just a gun grabbers, a gubernatorial candidate that's running for the Democrats and going after going after firearms.
[63:00] Teddy Collins: So Alicia was there live in the studio or live in the end going after going after firearms.
[63:11] Alicia Garcia: So I found this quite interesting that the event was held at Thornton.
[63:26] Alicia Garcia: The thing is that the location of the event wasn't released until that morning of the event.
[63:33] Alicia Garcia: So Teddy and I usually have a podcast we film every Wednesday in studio live.
[63:40] Alicia Garcia: And we rescheduled that just so I could be in the room with not only Gabby Gifford, but Senator Bennett, Monica Duran and all of their cronies.
[63:53] Alicia Garcia: so you were prohibited, quote-unquote, from carrying firearms, weapons, things of that nature.
[64:05] Alicia Garcia: You would have thought that I was going to meet somebody quite important, but alas, it's just people who are absolutely terrified of guns.
[64:14] Alicia Garcia: Just so people out there understand, when you're doing preventative, quote-unquote, measures for weapons and screenings, wanting someone technically isn't considered a way to disarm people in the state of Colorado.
[64:29] Alicia Garcia: You would need metal detection devices permanently in place at every entrance and exit.
[64:33] Alicia Garcia: Now, they did pass a law that prohibits people carrying firearms in buildings that are conducting government affairs.
[64:40] Alicia Garcia: Now, I don't think this is something that would be considered government affairs, but alas, it was just enough carrying firearms in buildings that are conducting government affairs.
[64:50] Alicia Garcia: Now, I don't think this is something that would be considered government affairs, but alas, it was just another way that they can disarm people and act as if guns are the problem.
[65:02] Alicia Garcia: One of the things that I noticed that Senator Bennett said is that these are automatic weapons.
[65:12] Alicia Garcia: They are going to do everything that they can to continue the fight to disarm people from these types of weapons.
[65:22] Alicia Garcia: And I don't know if it's because Gabby Gifford is suffering from some sort of brain damage, from being shot.
[65:30] Alicia Garcia: But the woman has a very, very difficult time putting together any type of statements or sentences.
[65:40] Alicia Garcia: It was very elementary and no real answers were given.
[65:45] Alicia Garcia: Monica Duran was very adamant about talking about how Gabe Evans is the problem, and that they have done everything that they can to pass different types of legislation.
[65:55] Alicia Garcia: She uses the excuses that she is a survivor of domestic violence and she is also a concealed carry permit holder and a gun owner.
[66:03] Alicia Garcia: So she acts as if she's representative of this community and pawns herself off as this is what responsible gun ownership looks like, and to which we all understand that their main goal is not to protect the people, it's to disarm them.
[66:18] Kim Monson: Okay, and so that was an event that was this last week.
[66:21] Kim Monson: There is also some new laws that have gone into effect.
[66:25] Kim Monson: Which one of you want to take that?
[66:27] Kim Monson: I think it's important that people know that.
[66:35] Teddy Collins: So we had a new law going to place where now guns are not allowed.
[66:40] Teddy Collins: stores can basically check to make sure firearms are not stolen.
[66:44] Teddy Collins: The issue with the law is that it's written in a way where if firearm stores have a reasonable suspicion, and it doesn't really define what that suspicion is, but if this firearm store has a suspicion that the firearm could be stolen, we are required to check, and we're required to check with the Sheriff's Department, and they have three days to get back to us.
[67:04] Teddy Collins: So now we essentially have a three-day wait on selling your firearms to a store, not just purchasing them.
[67:10] Teddy Collins: So that's one of the laws that went into effect.
[67:14] Teddy Collins: That went into effect, if I remember correct, on Wednesday.
[67:18] Teddy Collins: And that'll be the new norm here in Colorado going forward.
[67:25] Teddy Collins: Just another law that went into effect from this last legislative session.
[67:29] Kim Monson: And there were a number of different firearms pieces of legislation.
[67:34] Kim Monson: Of course, the big one everybody knew about was Senate Bill 003, But sometimes I think, Teddy, that you have these big overreach on our Second Amendment types of pieces of legislation, and then they are sliding in other things as well.
[67:49] Kim Monson: And we saw that in this particular legislative session.
[67:53] Kim Monson: So final thought, Teddy, that you'd like to leave with our listeners before we go.
[68:02] Teddy Collins: And also, we do have another special session coming up here on August 18th.
[68:10] Teddy Collins: Let's see if they try to use gun stores as piggy banks again for their$ 1 billion shortfall.
[68:15] Teddy Collins: I have a feeling we're going to have more taxation coming in or they're going to try to get rid of tape work.
[68:20] Teddy Collins: So be prepared for August 18th and be prepared for next year.
[68:23] Kim Monson: Yeah, I think that's a big possibility.
[68:31] Alicia Garcia: Well, just to jump into what Teddy said, the special session is actually going to start on August 21st.
[68:38] Alicia Garcia: So more than 220 new laws took effect a day ago.
[68:43] Alicia Garcia: And so this year there was over 700 laws in the session of 2025 that they proposed to pass.
[68:50] Alicia Garcia: So it's very important now more than ever that people get involved.
[68:54] Alicia Garcia: You know, not voting, not taking a stance is making a choice to be okay with this type of government overreach, and the second syndicate needs the support.
[69:03] Alicia Garcia: We are fighting heavily and we are fighting consistently against these types of legislation and these types of politicians.
[69:14] Alicia Garcia: We are 100, a non-profit, and everything that we do is going towards the protection and the preservation of the second amendment.
[69:26] Kim Monson: So it's the number two in the syndicate.
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[72:44] Kim Monson: It is because of all of our sponsors, all of your support, that this independent voice is on this independent station searching for truth and clarity on these issues.
[72:53] Kim Monson: And I'm pleased to have on the line with me Travis Bachenstedt.
[72:57] Kim Monson: And he is the president and chief experience officer of Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care, where he leads the company's strategic growth while ensuring exceptional experiences for patients and clients.
[73:10] Kim Monson: He's a passionate healthcare disruptor, and he spent the past six years focused on reforming the U.
[73:16] Kim Monson: healthcare system with a mission to restore primary care and family medicine as its foundation.
[73:23] Kim Monson: He has had many awards throughout the community, and he is also a co-founder of Pinnacle.
[73:29] Kim Monson: Travis Bockenstatt, welcome to the show.
[73:36] Kim Monson: Well, and Travis, health care, it's really front and center.
[73:41] Kim Monson: And Obamacare was supposed to make, supposedly, health care more accessible and less expensive, but I don't think that's the case.
[73:52] Kim Monson: And so you have this health care model that is disrupting the industry.
[74:04] Travis Bochenstedt: to drain the bank accounts of our businesses, their employees, and families, and we've got to do something about it.
[74:10] Travis Bochenstedt: But when we really talk about how do we fix the health care system, we really need to start at the foundation.
[74:16] Travis Bochenstedt: And unfortunately, we don't value the family doctor like we used to because you've only been getting seven minutes with them, waiting six weeks for a visit, and then you end up in the ER in urgent care.
[74:30] Travis Bochenstedt: Let's take family medicine, make it a membership model, just like Netflix or your food box that you get delivered to your home, and allow consumers to buy their health care directly from their doctor instead of using that insurance company in the middle.
[74:48] Travis Bochenstedt: And the magic of what we can do with that by just flipping the payment model is really, really amazing.
[74:57] Travis Bochenstedt: introduce a free market health care solution to people that is truly independent.
[75:03] Kim Monson: So, Travis Bachenstadt, I thought that there were limitations on being able to do something like this in Obamacare, the Unaffordable Care Act.
[75:20] Travis Bochenstedt: There are a ton of things you can put on your health savings account.
[75:32] Travis Bochenstedt: So you, as a consumer, were banned from going to a practice like mine and using your HSA card because it conflicted with tax law.
[75:42] Travis Bochenstedt: Now, my personal opinion on this is that big health care wanted a stream of cash into their systems and it wasn't allowing free market consumers to go out purchase their care.
[75:53] Travis Bochenstedt: We're talking a membership of$ 85 a month for an individual to have unlimited access to our clinic with no co-pays, deductibles, or offices at fees.
[76:09] Travis Bochenstedt: Colorado is actually the second highest state in the nation of direct primary care practices.
[76:16] Travis Bochenstedt: And another big thing to keep in mind is that when we look at what folks are looking at for health care is they do not want big health care telling them what to do with their body.
[76:27] Travis Bochenstedt: They don't want people forcing them to do things with their children that they don't want to do.
[76:32] Travis Bochenstedt: And if you're hooked up to big insurance and big health care, you don't have that autonomy.
[76:37] Travis Bochenstedt: So we're getting back to that good old family doctor who you trust and know to make health care decisions about your family.
[76:46] Kim Monson: So what if something big happens, though, some catastrophic health care event?
[76:54] Kim Monson: How is that handled with direct primary care?
[77:01] Travis Bochenstedt: So a good primary care office and doctor can actually do a lot when they're given more than just seven minutes.
[77:09] Travis Bochenstedt: Because we're not processing insurance claims and having to run 20 to 30 people through the clinic a day.
[77:17] Travis Bochenstedt: Our doctors see six to 10 patients a day for an average of a 40-minute encounter.
[77:25] Travis Bochenstedt: We can avoid you having to go to the ER urgent care for UTIs and ear infections and things like that.
[77:32] Travis Bochenstedt: So we really look at health insurance as a mechanism to protect you from going bankrupt if something big happens.
[77:46] Travis Bochenstedt: Now, there are really great free market alternatives there to pair with a DPC membership.
[77:53] Travis Bochenstedt: Some people know of Christian Health Ministries, which is a health share.
[77:57] Travis Bochenstedt: We partner with a health share out of Utah called Zion, and that's another free market solution where you pay in, and a community of people, if you have a major medical incident, those funds come together to help you out to pay for those expenses.
[78:11] Travis Bochenstedt: So there's a truly free market solutions out there to cover your everyday wellness needs and have some protection for major medical events.
[78:21] Kim Monson: I grew up with a relationship with, we had a family doctor and that is so important because I think medicine is really more of an art than a science because everybody's different.
[78:37] Kim Monson: So you can't just have a kind of a cookie- cutterresponse to things.
[78:42] Kim Monson: And if a doctor's only seeing a patient for a few minutes a day, they can't understand what's going on with the patient.
[78:53] Travis Bochenstedt: Would you want to go into family medicine If you know you're going to be paid the less of your specialty peers, you're going to see 20 to 30 patients a day.
[79:04] Travis Bochenstedt: You're going to have to document that encounter with over 69, 000medical billing codes.
[79:13] Travis Bochenstedt: Believe it or not, after the ACA went into place, there were about 80% offamily practices that were owned by the physician.
[79:21] Travis Bochenstedt: We are now down to less than 20% of familypractices being owned by the physician.
[79:27] Travis Bochenstedt: DPC is now allowing physicians right out of medical school, experienced physicians, to come into a place that supports them so they can provide great care.
[79:39] Travis Bochenstedt: And we need more independent family practices in our country, and DPC is a way for physicians to do that.
[79:48] Travis Bochenstedt: The moneythe patient pays goes directly to the doctor, no middleman.
[79:54] Kim Monson: Boy, you can do a lot when you cut out the middleman.
[79:57] Kim Monson: So you said that it's about$ 85 a month.
[80:01] Kim Monson: Is that for an individual or for a family?
[80:04] Travis Bochenstedt: Yeah, we actually have two types of memberships, and a lot of DPCs in the state have this.
[80:13] Travis Bochenstedt: These are just everyday consumers, soon- to- be peoplewithHSA cards that can purchase that membership on their own.
[80:19] Travis Bochenstedt: And then we actually serve about 250 small businesses along the front range.
[80:26] Travis Bochenstedt: You're talking coffee shops, landscaping companies who could never afford health care for their team, and they're able to get our subsidized rates of$ 69 a month for an employee and only$ 180 for an entire family to join the practice.
[80:42] Travis Bochenstedt: These membership rates are pretty similar across Colorado and the country, so I think that's very affordable to get all of your primary care needs met.
[80:52] Kim Monson: Okay, and now if people can use their HSA account to purchase this, and they used to not be able to, right?
[81:04] Travis Bochenstedt: You could not use your HSA card to pay for a doctor in a DPC, which is pretty mind- boggling.
[81:16] Kim Monson: Before we do that, though, let's make sure people know how they can reach you.
[81:22] Travis Bochenstedt: com, and thereyou can find all sorts of information about our practice, FAQs, and pricing.
[81:29] Kim Monson: Okay, we're going to continue the discussion with Travis Bachenstedt.
[81:33] Kim Monson: And super interesting and creative.
[81:40] Kim Monson: And it seems like it's also common sense to me.
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[85:26] Kim Monson: And I'm talking with Travis Bakkenstedt.
[85:29] Kim Monson: And he is a co-founder of Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care.
[85:38] Kim Monson: And he is also the president and chief experience officer.
[85:42] Kim Monson: And Travis Bakkenstedt, this is so creative.
[85:45] Kim Monson: I'm really excited about this because health care is a challenge.
[85:51] Kim Monson: We know we need health care, but it's expensive.
[85:59] Kim Monson: And you are working on fixing that.
[86:04] Travis Bochenstedt: And I think we need to really get to the root cause at the end of the day, right?
[86:08] Travis Bochenstedt: Because there's a lot of discussion right now, Medicaid, Medicare, funding different things.
[86:13] Travis Bochenstedt: But the root cause at the end of the day is big health care is draining these programs.
[86:24] Travis Bochenstedt: If someone told you you went to a car shop and needed four tires and they said it's going to cost five grand, you'd be like, no way.
[86:31] Travis Bochenstedt: That is crazy, because you have a general concept of the cost and a free market and you can shop around.
[86:40] Travis Bochenstedt: We have no idea the true cost of a hip replacement or a specialty procedure or something like that.
[86:51] Travis Bochenstedt: So it really doesn't empower the consumer at all, and I believe it is truly designed to be confusing.
[87:00] Kim Monson: And this all happened under Obamacare, as I like to call it, the Unaffordable Care Act.
[87:06] Kim Monson: But did the big, beautiful bill, Trump's big, beautiful bill, is that starting to get more freedom into health care?
[87:15] Kim Monson: Or where are we starting to see the support that you're able to get?
[87:19] Kim Monson: People could have this choice of direct primary care.
[87:48] Travis Bochenstedt: And I think that if you can self-fund a portion of your health care by putting money away, it benefits you at the end of the day.
[87:56] Travis Bochenstedt: I think that when we look at the bill as a whole, I'm on board with a lot of folks to say, hey, we need to cut the fat in government.
[88:06] Travis Bochenstedt: I get nervous, to be honest, on the health care side because I have a friend, for instance, who pays thousands of dollars in pharmacy costs every month.
[88:17] Travis Bochenstedt: And if they didn't have that safety blanket, it would be very hard once they got dropped off those programs to afford it.
[88:27] Travis Bochenstedt: If you put yourself in anybody's shoes, if you've ever missed a prescription refill accidentally, it's very nerve-wracking.
[88:34] Travis Bochenstedt: So I want to see the transition in a smart way because, you know, having our body, having our health, that is part of our liberty, and we need to maintain that.
[88:47] Travis Bochenstedt: So in a roundabout way, I hope I'm kind of making sense here, is that we've got to be very thoughtful about how we readjust these health care programs.
[89:01] Kim Monson: With the direct health care, primary care, is getting pharmaceuticals different than if, you know, the traditional insurance?
[89:13] Travis Bochenstedt: So there's a lot of industries out there that are taking a free market approach.
[89:20] Travis Bochenstedt: Many of you have heard of Mark Cuban's Cost Plus Drugs, where he is getting wholesale pricing on generic medications and passing it directly to the consumer.
[89:28] Travis Bochenstedt: We partner with a similar service that provides, as of the new year, will provide unlimited generics mailed to our members' home for zero cost.
[89:38] Travis Bochenstedt: It'll be part of that membership, so we're using that buying power.
[89:41] Travis Bochenstedt: There are also freestanding surgical centers that are direct specialty care.
[89:48] Travis Bochenstedt: In fact, Smith Medical is located in Littleton, and you go onto their website, and there's a whole menu of services from knee replacements to different procedures that are all cash pay.
[89:59] Travis Bochenstedt: So there's a whole ecosystem, free market health care ecosystem, that's building themselves around direct primary care practices.
[90:06] Travis Bochenstedt: So we can refer our members to these different freestanding systems that save a lot of money at the end of the day.
[90:15] Kim Monson: What about if somebody's on Medicare?
[90:23] Travis Bochenstedt: So if you're a Medicare recipient, you do need to sign a Medicare opt-out waiver because our DPC docs cannot take those funds, nor do we ever want to take those funds.
[90:36] Travis Bochenstedt: But imagine if you're someone who's elderly over the age of 65, and you're like, you know what?
[90:45] Travis Bochenstedt: Having a relationship with a doctor and getting that extended care is really important to that.
[90:50] Travis Bochenstedt: Now, one thing we have to solve in our state, Colorado is one of two in the nation, where Medicaid recipients cannot come to our practice.
[91:01] Travis Bochenstedt: I don't want the Medicaid dollars, but could you imagine how much we could save taxpayers if Medicaid recipients could go to a practice like ours.
[91:14] Kim Monson: Boy, that brings up an interesting point.
[91:17] Kim Monson: We're going to have this special legislative session here in Colorado, and one of the things they're talking about is the loss, I have that in air quotes from the federal government on Medicaid funding.
[91:30] Kim Monson: Well, it looks to me like if they got creative and innovative, that they could do some things about that without blaming the federal government for taking away so much funding.
[91:43] Kim Monson: I'm just a little shocked that Colorado is one of two states in the country that does not allow Medicaid patients to partake in direct primary care.
[91:53] Kim Monson: That's pretty interesting, Travis Bockenstatt.
[92:01] Travis Bochenstedt: For folks who are struggling and on these different programs- government programs- they do not have resiliency and we need to help build that.
[92:13] Travis Bochenstedt: I'm a farm boy, right, so I get that concept, but um, but we need to start doing that with health care, and I truly believe we would not need all these government programs if health prices were not exorbitant, they were not free market and out of control.
[92:34] Kim Monson: I see the big healthcare industrial complex and the insurance companies, they may not want to give up their kind of their gravy train on this.
[92:47] Kim Monson: So I can see, I've always said that big government and big business like each other.
[92:52] Kim Monson: And I think we saw that with the Unaffordable Care Act.
[92:55] Kim Monson: So I like the idea that we are taking steps to get back to free market, and you are on the cutting edge on this at Pinnacle and Direct Primary Care.
[93:07] Travis Bochenstedt: And what I want all of your listeners to do today is just Google Direct Primary Care, go down a rabbit hole, and start exploring free market health care.
[93:16] Travis Bochenstedt: It's up to me, you, your listeners to start taking their hard earned money and diverting it to practices and healthcare systems that are doing it right.
[93:31] Travis Bochenstedt: If we don't do that, we'll continue to have this monster that both parties will kick back and forth every season and we won't get anywhere.
[93:41] Kim Monson: So So you can serve both individuals.
[93:47] Kim Monson: And I think that you said that you work with over 250 small businesses, which I think is just super awesome.
[93:57] Kim Monson: People, I think, could pay out of pocket.
[93:58] Kim Monson: Even if they don't have a health savings account, they could pay out of pocket because it's not called a premium.
[94:17] Travis Bochenstedt: Our primary objective, because we're also a local small business owner, was to support what truly is the foundation of our business community.
[94:30] Travis Bochenstedt: But the foundation of our economy are small businesses who outnumber all the large corporations in our country.
[94:37] Travis Bochenstedt: But we got to make sure those small businesses still have health care buying power to keep their team healthy, because turnover is expensive for small businesses.
[94:45] Travis Bochenstedt: So this benefit actually helps small businesses attract and retain employees.
[94:50] Kim Monson: And again, the other thing that I just love is the relationship with your doctor, because as your doctor gets to know you, that is so important.
[95:01] Kim Monson: Let's talk about small families, families with small children, because children, it seems, you know, you have earaches, you have fevers, all that.
[95:12] Kim Monson: So what does that look like for a family in working with Pinnacle?
[95:24] Travis Bochenstedt: What that means is we can guarantee same-day, next-day visits with our members, which if you have a screaming kiddo with an earache, you want to get that taken care of right away.
[95:36] Travis Bochenstedt: But what do you do on weekends, holidays, visiting the family in Houston?
[95:40] Travis Bochenstedt: You actually have an app through Pinnacle that connects you to your actual family physician.
[95:45] Travis Bochenstedt: A lot of people get Teladoc, but that's some random doctor every time.
[95:51] Travis Bochenstedt: And imagine if you're in Houston, little's got an earache, and they can send a script to the nearest pharmacy for you.
[96:00] Travis Bochenstedt: The other thing is, parents are paying a lot of money every time they have to bring those kids in.
[96:06] Travis Bochenstedt: They can't get to the family doctor, so now they're in the ER waiting five hours.
[96:10] Travis Bochenstedt: So for the family, not only are you going to get that great care, But the other important thing is that autonomy as a patient to not have big health care forcing your doctors to do things to you.
[96:23] Travis Bochenstedt: And I think a lot of families, especially now in your listeners, protecting the family is really key.
[96:30] Kim Monson: Travis, the scenario that you have just given, a family with small children traveling, and yes, there's an ear infection.
[96:40] Kim Monson: And so I just want to make sure I have this right.
[96:42] Kim Monson: So it's Saturday, and the kiddo isn't feeling well.
[96:47] Kim Monson: You can go on an app, and you're pretty sure it's an ear infection, and a prescription can be called in.
[96:57] Travis Bochenstedt: So that doctor, your doctor at Pinnacle is going to jump on a video call with you.
[97:02] Travis Bochenstedt: When you send them a message in the app, it does not go to a call center.
[97:09] Travis Bochenstedt: just like the old days 40 years ago, 50 years ago, where your family doc was essentially on call for you, right?
[97:15] Travis Bochenstedt: Now, our docs are not going to be very happy if you ping them at 2 a.
[97:19] Travis Bochenstedt: for a prescription refill because they have lives too, but really they are there on call for you when needed, which I do not know many people who have that service.
[97:30] Kim Monson: And again, in a relationship, there's that respect.
[97:35] Kim Monson: m., Normally, I think parents of small children will try to make it in until the next morning and then make that call.
[97:43] Kim Monson: Guys, this is really exciting, Travis Bachenstett.
[97:47] Kim Monson: So how can people get more information?
[98:04] Travis Bochenstedt: and we'll have a discovery call, chat through your health needs and see if we're a good fit for you.
[98:09] Kim Monson: And this is really a game changer for individuals and small to mid-sized businesses regarding health care options.
[98:17] Kim Monson: This is so creative and really appreciate you, your creativity and innovation because you unleash Americans' creativity and innovation and the sky is the limit.
[98:28] Kim Monson: So I wish you all great luck, lots of great luck on this, Travis.
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[101:27] Kim Monson: It is Friday, and I wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation is hosting an event to celebrate their 48th anniversary.
[101:39] Kim Monson: And to buy tickets, you can go to usmcmemorialfoundation.
[101:46] Kim Monson: And typically, it's a beautiful evening.
[101:47] Kim Monson: Knock on wood, the weather committee normally does a great job.
[101:56] Kim Monson: And you can buy tickets by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.
[102:00] Kim Monson: Really a fascinating conversation with Travis Bachenstedt regarding Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care.
[102:09] Kim Monson: And I pulled this headline earlier this week.
[102:13] Kim Monson: Illinois is removing over 700,000 people from their health care plan, as it says, these Americans have been removed from the state's Medicaid program as part of the unwinding process happening nationwide.
[102:30] Kim Monson: If the government giveth, the government can taketh away.
[102:33] Kim Monson: So freedom means that you're responsible for yourself.
[102:38] Kim Monson: You're able to make decisions for yourself.
[102:40] Kim Monson: Taxation is low, so you have more money in your pocket to make decisions about your own personal finances, your health care.
[102:51] Kim Monson: We've got Gammy on the line, and she's got some comments.
[102:56] Gammy: Good Friday, Kim Revere.
[103:00] Gammy: I challenged somebody in the audience to do a caricature drawing of Kim riding on a horse like Rush Revere and all that.
[103:09] Gammy: Because, girl, you've been rocking it.
[103:12] Gammy: And I just heard somebody call you that, and I thought, how apropos is that one?
[103:18] Gammy: But now, the young man that just spoke, kudos.
[103:23] Gammy: And to the whole thing, the theory, but there's more.
[103:28] Gammy: Do you remember when McCain was running with Sarah Palin, and she brought up, they brought up the, quote, death panels, eugenics-like decision-making?
[103:40] Gammy: if you were to engage in, you know, single-payer centralized medical care, ACA, the Affordable Care Act, the Obamacare Act, all of it.
[103:51] Gammy: Everybody was screaming it, and people thought they were crazy.
[103:54] Gammy: They said, oh, they're lying.
[103:56] Gammy: Well, they're not lying.
[103:57] Gammy: They have never been lying.
[103:59] Gammy: There are death panels on all of the central government medical because your guest you had on, the gal that told us about all the middlemen, I forgot her name, but she nailed it.
[104:13] Gammy: And the problem is...
[104:14] Gammy: I think that was Dr.
[104:18] Gammy: Yes, that's her.
[104:21] Gammy: We don't have control of our own medicine because if they determine that a procedure, even your doctor suggests if they, the middle, decide you can't have it, you don't get it unless you pay for it from an independent source.
[104:37] Gammy: And the travesty of this is circle back to the special event happening here in the legislature, this in the next few weeks.
[104:50] Gammy: It's about control of the masses.
[104:53] Gammy: It always was.
[104:54] Gammy: And until we can stop it.
[104:57] Gammy: And that means defund it.
[104:59] Gammy: That means, like you said, vote other people in, vote these people out, and hold them legally accountable.
[105:07] Gammy: Prosecute them if they're committing treason.
[105:10] Gammy: If we don't have real efforts to stop this, we're being thrown into this full control, communist, socialist, Marxist, whatever you want to call it.
[105:22] Gammy: But it's a control.
[105:24] Gammy: And when Obama created the Affordable Care Act and the Supreme Court decided to switch that glitch in the bill to a fee instead of a tax, which they interfered in a bill, in my opinion, what they did was take more control.
[105:42] Gammy: And that means the individual no longer can keep– most of us lost our individual primary care doctors.
[105:50] Gammy: And it's a struggle to keep proper care.
[105:52] Gammy: But this is what has to be done if you want to control people.
[105:56] Gammy: So since Mr.
[105:58] Gammy: Governor Polis is a World Economic Forum graduate, he's part of the roundtable and the gang of four billionaires who are the ones controlling all the elections.
[106:10] Gammy: We're being controlled because that's what they have to do.
[106:14] Kim Monson: Well, and to that point, that is why liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom.
[106:23] Kim Monson: And I know that your brain is just on fire on a consistent basis, as you are connecting dots on these things.
[106:31] Kim Monson: But ultimately, when we look at these things, these different issues is, do I have more control over my life?
[106:39] Kim Monson: Or does government or some bureaucracy have more control over my life or some interested party?
[106:50] Kim Monson: And I think that people like the idea of security, but there is no security with more and more government overreach.
[106:57] Kim Monson: And a perfect example is this headline that I mentioned regarding Illinois.
[107:05] Kim Monson: And it was just two days ago that Illinois is removing nearly 700, 000people from a health care plan.
[107:11] Kim Monson: So people thought that they had security of this Medicaid health care plan.
[107:21] Kim Monson: And so people, we need to understand that we need to be taking more control, more responsibility, liberty, responsible exercise of freedom over our lives.
[107:32] Kim Monson: And in order to do that, we have to keep more of our money.
[107:36] Kim Monson: So this is going to connect this dot back to Nancy Rumsfeld or the conversations we had with Jason Bailey regarding Citizens, for No New Debt is we need to continue to keep more of the money in our pocket.
[107:51] Kim Monson: We need to be saying no to all these new debt and tax questions and keeping more money in our pocket so that we have more freedom to make the decisions that we need to for our lives.
[108:03] Kim Monson: and so really important point, Gammy, and I really do appreciate your thoughts on that.
[108:10] Kim Monson: And I want to make sure that I've done all the things that I'm supposed to get done here, which I think that I have on that.
[108:16] Kim Monson: So we must have these conversations.
[108:18] Kim Monson: There is this, I think the word is inflection.
[108:25] Kim Monson: This inflection point right now regarding liberty.
[108:28] Kim Monson: In many ways, I think that we are at our 1775 moment.
[108:33] Kim Monson: In our third founding of our country, we are in this huge battle of ideas that is raging right now.
[108:40] Kim Monson: But do you not take great heart from hearing from our different guests today?
[108:45] Kim Monson: For example, Paula Sarlls, who's doing all this work to honor those through the USMC Memorial Foundation and the work that they do.
[108:54] Kim Monson: Or we have Nancy Rumfeld, who she has been on the front line.
[109:01] Kim Monson: These people are not representing.
[109:02] Kim Monson: We elect school board members to be the representatives of the people, so that we can ideally provide a good education for our children.
[109:12] Kim Monson: Well, that whole thing's been hijacked.
[109:14] Kim Monson: And when you see that there's a 6- 1vote on so many of these important things, we realize that many of these people that are in elected positions are not representing we, the people.
[109:26] Kim Monson: And then understanding that there's been funny stuff going on with our census.
[109:32] Kim Monson: I hadn't even thought about how that could affect congressional seats in different states.
[109:38] Kim Monson: And it is extensive, but I'd recommend that you read Wade Miller's piece at AmericanRenewing.
[109:45] Kim Monson: And then Travis Bachenstedt talking about what is happening at Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care.
[109:53] Kim Monson: And, of course, then Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins with the great work they're doing at the Second Syndicate.
[110:00] Kim Monson: and we need to understand what's happening out there.
[110:04] Kim Monson: And then once we do, we can engage in conversations with our friends and our family and our colleagues.
[110:09] Kim Monson: And so that's why we do the show is to help you do that.
[110:14] Kim Monson: Our quote for the end of the show is from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.
[110:17] Kim Monson: He said, perseverance is a great element of success.
[110:20] Kim Monson: If you only knock long enough and loud enough at the gate, you are sure to wake up somebody.
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