[00:05] Announcer: It's the Kim Monson show analyzing the most important stories.
[00:11] Kim Monson: I find that it takes work to get your brain around these ideas and it takes work to engage in these conversations- the latest in politics and world affairs- with what is happening down at the state house.
[00:26] Kim Monson: I used to think that it was about my pay grade to read the legislation, and it's not.
[00:33] Announcer: Today's current opinions and ideas.
[00:35] Kim Monson: I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
[00:44] Announcer: Is it freedom or is it force?
[00:47] Announcer: Let's have a conversation.
[00:52] Kim Monson: And welcome to The Kim Monson Show.
[01:01] Kim Monson: Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body.
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[01:13] Kim Monson: Uh, it is just a great team that I get to work with.
[01:20] Kim Monson: Happy thursday kim, and we've got a jam-packed show planned for you.
[01:23] Kim Monson: So fasten your seat belts and here we go.
[01:26] Kim Monson: As you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[01:32] Kim Monson: If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
[01:36] Kim Monson: It's never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods or their lives.
[01:48] Kim Monson: It can be policy, can be this whole compliance thing.
[01:52] Kim Monson: Unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government induced inflation, this agenda of the world economic forum that is playing out at the united nations, but also we see it with this governor here in colorado, the colorado legislature, but we're also seeing it play out in local government.
[02:11] Kim Monson: These local races are so important.
[02:15] Kim Monson: They're just stepping forward to run for office.
[02:21] Kim Monson: And we'll mention the people that are pushing those issues.
[02:25] Kim Monson: But we work diligently to stay out of the whole personality infighting that can happen in politics.
[02:31] Kim Monson: We don't like that eighth grade girl fighting.
[02:33] Kim Monson: I didn't like eighth grade that much.
[02:48] Kim Monson: It could be to increase the scope of or to extend, to make greater in power, influence, stature, and reputation, or to consider to be or cause to appear greater than is really the case.
[03:01] Kim Monson: But I think I'll go to the first definition, to increase the scope of extend, we see across the spectrum, government, local, county, state, and federal, that is aggrandizing their power.
[03:17] Kim Monson: And it is so important to get government back in its proper role.
[03:22] Kim Monson: The quote of the day comes from Maggie Thatcher.
[03:25] Kim Monson: And she was born in, let's see, 1925.
[03:31] Kim Monson: And she was a British stateswoman who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990.
[03:38] Kim Monson: She was the longest serving British Prime Minister of the 20th century, the first woman to hold that position.
[03:43] Kim Monson: And she implemented policies that could be known as Thatcherism.
[03:47] Kim Monson: And a Soviet journalist dubbed her the Iron Lady, a nickname that became associated with her uncompromising politics and leadership style.
[04:02] Kim Monson: And here in America, being conservative, what that means is to preserve this vision of America, that all men, all people are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
[04:15] Kim Monson: And that vision, those principles are worth conserving and preserving.
[04:22] Kim Monson: And so hence, that's my definition of conservatism.
[04:26] Kim Monson: So her quote is this, the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
[04:33] Kim Monson: And socialism is not about free stuff.
[04:36] Kim Monson: That's the carrot to get people to vote for it.
[04:38] Kim Monson: But socialism ultimately has to come down to force.
[04:44] Kim Monson: And so that again is from Maggie Thatcher, the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
[04:50] Kim Monson: As you know, our show is independent.
[04:53] Kim Monson: I purchased my airtime, and we're on an independent station, so we don't have anybody telling us what to do and who to have on.
[05:06] Kim Monson: But it happens because of all the support from all of you, and also our great sponsors, who I know each of them, and they each strive for excellence, and we have one of them on the line right now, and that is Karen Gorday with Radiant Painting and Lighting.
[05:27] Kim Monson: And let's talk about your business first.
[05:32] Kim Monson: That means tomorrow is Thanksgiving, and the next day it's Christmas.
[05:35] Kim Monson: But people need to be starting to think about preparing for the holidays, and so now would be a good time to spruce up the house.
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[05:57] Karen Gordey: Don't wait till the last minute, um, you know, too often, um, people wait to the last minute and can't get it spruced up before those big holiday gatherings.
[06:11] Kim Monson: You weren't able to make it because you are out campaigning.
[06:14] Kim Monson: But Louise said that one of her colleagues had called you to get an estimate.
[06:22] Kim Monson: And Louise was so impressed that you were out there within 24 hours walking through everything.
[06:31] Kim Monson: and given all that's going on in your life, Karen, that is really impressive.
[06:36] Karen Gordey: However, what I've learned is when people want estimates and want work done, they want things done as quickly as possible.
[06:45] Karen Gordey: They don't want to wait a week, two weeks to even get an estimate.
[06:51] Karen Gordey: And the reason I say start getting estimates now, the cost of everything has risen.
[06:58] Karen Gordey: And if you wait to the last minute, you might not be able to get on that schedule to get things spruced up.
[07:07] Karen Gordey: Uh, what's the best way to reach you, karen corday, um, through the website, which is www.
[07:13] Karen Gordey: Com and you can fill out a form and I'll come right to me, and also you.
[07:18] Kim Monson: Uh, now's the time to be thinking about your holiday lighting as well, if you go.
[07:21] Kim Monson: Your website, uh, radiant, uh, paint with whoa.
[07:32] Kim Monson: Okay, if you go to the website, the uh photos of the outdoor lighting is absolutely spectacular, and so, again, if that's something that people would like to do, they need to plan on that.
[07:44] Kim Monson: My friends, you are very busy right now.
[07:45] Kim Monson: You are running for lakewood city council and lakewood karen, it's in decline.
[07:50] Kim Monson: We see big salaries for the bureaucrats, the city managers across the spectrum here in the metro area that are really pushing policies that are are are very destructive to our communities.
[08:09] Kim Monson: Um, and- and I I say that also pbis, the politicians, the people in office.
[08:14] Kim Monson: And I saw this headline yesterday about something that's happening in Lakewood called jugging.
[08:21] Kim Monson: And crime is one of the first things that's on people's mind.
[08:25] Kim Monson: But you saw that headline as well, right?
[08:29] Karen Gordey: And so I think it's a new term for something that's been around as long as you and I have been, whereas someone is watching someone at the ATM or the bank, and they're withdrawing money, and then they're getting followed and then robbed at their next destination.
[08:52] Karen Gordey: We used to call that mugging back in the day versus jugging.
[08:55] Karen Gordey: I'm not sure why we're changing the terms, but we're changing the terms.
[08:58] Karen Gordey: But we all need to be very aware of our surroundings at all times.
[09:04] Kim Monson: Well, and so Lakewood Police, the headline was Lakewood Police Warn of Rising Jugging Robberies.
[09:09] Kim Monson: So you have thrown your hat in the ring to run for Lakewood City Council.
[09:14] Kim Monson: And what is the latest regarding your campaign?
[09:17] Kim Monson: There's these whole zoning questions that you're concerned about.
[09:21] Kim Monson: So what's going on with all that, Karen Gorday?
[09:27] Karen Gordey: The fourth round passed this past Monday night.
[09:32] Karen Gordey: So, you know, the hard work begins with the referendum.
[09:38] Karen Gordey: Um, we need volunteers, and, my understanding, you need volunteers in lakewood for carrying petitions.
[09:54] Karen Gordey: Uh, second reading of the budget is next monday night.
[09:58] Karen Gordey: When you talk about salaries, it's not just the city manager.
[10:01] Karen Gordey: That's making around 400 grand a year, using 2024 numbers, because 2025 numbers are not out on.
[10:11] Karen Gordey: Um, approximately 33 percent of this full-time city staff makes over a hundred thousand or more, and many of those are up closer to two hundred thousand.
[10:25] Karen Gordey: Karen, like, the spending is out of control in Lakewood.
[10:36] Karen Gordey: And the economic development budget, um, for next year is two million dollars.
[10:45] Karen Gordey: And if you can't attract businesses, Lakewood is not going to grow.
[10:50] Karen Gordey: You're not going to attract people to come to Lakewood.
[10:53] Karen Gordey: But yet there is$ 15 million in the budget allocated towards homelessness.
[11:00] Karen Gordey: So we know we have the homelessness industrial complex and there's$ 15 million there.
[11:05] Karen Gordey: And we have the Emory Elementary, where Lakewood is going to buy the existing action center and lease it back to the action center.
[11:15] Karen Gordey: But then they're also going to sell them the empty building for Emory Elementary for a million, which is at a loss.
[11:22] Karen Gordey: And so the taxpayers are paying for this through Jeffco schools, because they're Jeffco schools, not selling the building and land for market rates.
[11:34] Karen Gordey: And then Lakewood's buying the current action center.
[11:36] Karen Gordey: And then that money is going to be used to buy the elementary school.
[11:48] Kim Monson: You're saying, I want to make a difference.
[11:50] Kim Monson: How can people get information and support your campaign?
[12:03] Karen Gordey: And they can read about my campaign and they can support it as well.
[12:11] Kim Monson: And just keep up the great work as an entrepreneur and also as a citizen who is stepping forward to run for office.
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[17:04] Kim Monson: Good morning and we had our board meeting this last Monday and it is an amazing group.
[17:10] Kim Monson: I want to say thank you to them and that is our fellow volunteer board members Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, you, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Cory Ohnesorge, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard.
[17:25] Kim Monson: And we would really encourage people to join us.
[17:27] Kim Monson: They can do that by going to coloradotaxpayer.
[17:32] Kim Monson: We have completed our ratings report on the state legislature and we are starting to disseminate that.
[17:40] Kim Monson: We'll have it on the website soon as well.
[17:42] Kim Monson: But it is a monumental piece of work.
[17:50] Ramey Johnson: People can't believe what you put together there.
[17:54] Ramey Johnson: You actually took the yeoman's work on that one.
[17:59] Ramey Johnson: We all contributed, but you were the one that really pulled it together.
[18:07] Kim Monson: This came in, one of our listeners just said, why is the Kim Monson show not on the radio right now?
[18:19] Kim Monson: So Ramey, Lakewood, we just talked to Karen Gorday, you live in Lakewood, you've served as a legislator, also on city council.
[18:29] Kim Monson: Lakewood is, I saw this headline regarding this Lakewood police are warning people about jugging.
[18:37] Kim Monson: You know, what's the update you want to give us?
[18:41] Ramey Johnson: Well, I'd really like to talk about this current city council and what they're up to.
[18:50] Ramey Johnson: You and I both know that a rezone is something that takes a long time to put together.
[18:56] Ramey Johnson: It absolutely requires the intake of the citizens, their input to define their own neighborhood.
[19:07] Ramey Johnson: All at once in June and July, the city council started having meetings in which they were rezoning and started voting on this stuff.
[19:19] Ramey Johnson: With really the only city input from the residents was at the city council meetings.
[19:30] Ramey Johnson: They broke these different pieces down into four sections, which was brilliant strategy on their point, because now in order to try and repeal this, we have to have four different petitions.
[19:46] Ramey Johnson: And the city has done everything possible, Kim, to make it as hard as it could be and arduous to get that process for us.
[19:59] Ramey Johnson: The ability of citizens to redress our government, it took three weeks to get the first petition so that the city finally okayed it.
[20:10] Ramey Johnson: But the issue with this is that they start the time clock from the minute that you submit the petition, not from the time that they say it's okay.
[20:24] Ramey Johnson: So it took three weeks off of the ability to get signatures on this.
[20:23] Ramey Johnson: And basically what they're doing, they want to change every single neighborhood to multi-use and basically do away with residential single-family neighborhoods, such that if you live in an older part of Lakewood, and Lakewood used to be very agricultural, we've got several neighborhoods where homes have half an acre, three-fourths of an acre.
[20:49] Ramey Johnson: If your neighbor sells their house, it will already be rezoned for multi-use, and a fourplex could go on there, and there is nothing that the neighborhood can do.
[21:07] Ramey Johnson: There is one gentleman that rented an office at 820 Sim Street, Suite 11.
[21:18] Ramey Johnson: This week it is open from 1030 in the morning until 6.
[21:24] Ramey Johnson: Beginning next week it will be open from 9 to 6.
[21:28] Ramey Johnson: And we are getting signatures on these petitions.
[21:32] Ramey Johnson: And folks have been streaming into this facility to get these.
[21:41] Ramey Johnson: I have heard that there's restructuring type of interest from Polis, if you will, and that in Portland they had what they called a livable Portland, and that those same people have come into Lakewood and infiltrated us, basically, with a livable Lakewood.
[22:07] Ramey Johnson: So that's kind of where some of this is coming from.
[22:13] Ramey Johnson: Basically, the people just want to be able to decide what their own neighborhoods look like.
[22:20] Ramey Johnson: And to spring it on us like this is really egregious.
[22:25] Ramey Johnson: It is one of the designs of the left, if you will, that one person should only occupy a certain amount of square footage.
[22:35] Ramey Johnson: and they're trying to cut down on the amount of square footage on homes as well.
[22:44] Ramey Johnson: You know, people don't like it when the state tells you what to do, but we certainly don't like it when the city becomes our HOA.
[22:51] Brief Interjection: Yeah.
[22:54] Ramey Johnson: So we want people to come to 820 Sim Street, Tweet 11.
[23:08] Ramey Johnson: But then in the meantime, Kim, our good friend Natalie Menton pulled the Colorado Open Records Act on the communication between our city and other cities regarding development.
[23:24] Ramey Johnson: And she came up with 250 pages worth of communication between our mayor, Wendy Strom, and the mayor in Wheat Ridge.
[23:37] Ramey Johnson: Also the PIOs, the public information officers and developers.
[23:44] Ramey Johnson: And when two individuals from the city, you know, just regular people got into that Zoom meeting, they stopped it and went into a quiet private session.
[23:59] Ramey Johnson: So basically, our mayors have been working with developers behind the scenes trying to get development planned for Lakewood.
[24:13] Ramey Johnson: That is extremely egregious that our city is doing that kind of thing.
[24:18] Ramey Johnson: And to just back up a little bit on what karen was mentioning regarding the emory sale, monday night at city council, all of council was given a subpoena.
[24:32] Ramey Johnson: So was our city attorney, so was the- excuse me- our city manager, the assistant city manager, the city clerk, the assistant city clerk.
[24:52] Ramey Johnson: That property is the school that the Jefferson County School District wants to divest itself of.
[25:01] Ramey Johnson: The property, the school building was refurbished, if you will, about three years beforehand.
[25:21] Ramey Johnson: It's not real clear that the school board has even said that they're willing to sell it, but the city is determined to buy it for four million.
[25:32] Ramey Johnson: Sell it to the Action Center, which is a homeless industrial complex, in my opinion, for$ 1 million.
[25:42] Ramey Johnson: And then when the Action Center moves into this residential neighborhood, a very nice residential neighborhood, then the city will in turn buy the Action Center for$ 4 million.
[26:04] Ramey Johnson: Well, it just feels like there is corruption, to be honest with you.
[26:11] Ramey Johnson: They are compromised regarding their working with developers, and we really are in decay.
[26:24] Kim Monson: And what you and so many in Lakewood are doing to save Lakewood is so important.
[26:32] Kim Monson: Ramey Johnson, you do amazing work.
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[29:29] Kim Monson: Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
[29:37] Kim Monson: And do check out the Center for American Values.
[29:40] Kim Monson: That website is AmericanValueCenter.
[29:42] Kim Monson: They're doing great work regarding our foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism.
[29:48] Kim Monson: They're nonpolitical, nonpartisan, just focusing on that.
[29:53] Kim Monson: And Kathy Russell, my friend, is the president of Liberty Toastmasters North, and she is stuck in traffic.
[30:02] Kim Monson: And there must be– somebody's having a tough day because there must have been quite the accident.
[30:06] Kim Monson: And so we're going to jump in here.
[30:07] Kim Monson: I have on the line with us my friend Greg Morrissey.
[30:11] Kim Monson: He is with Liberty Toastmasters North.
[30:14] Kim Monson: And our subject for the day is this great American idea that the government's power comes from the consent of we, the people.
[30:25] Kim Monson: And what's your thoughts about this particular subject?
[30:31] Greg Morrissey: People need to know their constitution, their state constitution and the federal constitution.
[30:36] Greg Morrissey: The website I'm on right now, it's constitution center.
[30:39] Greg Morrissey: Organd you go backslash the constitution, preamble and what they say right here says: we, the people of the united states, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide a common defense, promote the general welfare, secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our prosperity, and do ordain the establishment of this constitution of the united states of america.
[31:02] Greg Morrissey: That's the foundation this country was built on and everyone should know that foundation and promote it and live it and breathe it.
[31:12] Greg Morrissey: Like some of the things I'm hearing on your radio right now with: uh, let's go on with the city of lakewood.
[31:21] Greg Morrissey: You make that difference and I would encourage all the people listening to you show because I go to the city council meetings here in Longmont.
[31:30] Kim Monson: And Greg, I know that you and you're an American citizen by choice.
[31:35] Kim Monson: And I went to the Douglas County Commissioner meeting on our hearing on Tuesday.
[31:41] Kim Monson: And I, to your point, we have got to show up.
[31:50] Kim Monson: We and I, I coined the term fumes of freedom, which we talked with Trent Loos about yesterday.
[31:59] Kim Monson: And but it's because of those before us.
[32:03] Kim Monson: So your your recommendation to do this, it's so important.
[32:11] Kim Monson: We have to do this as citizens to reclaim this state in this country and our communities.
[32:22] Kim Monson: I so appreciate your perspective on everything.
[32:26] Kim Monson: Thank you, kim and rick rome, my friend from liberty toastmasters denver.
[32:31] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts about this unique american idea that government's power comes from the consent of we, the people?
[32:38] Rick Rome: Well, kim, I'm going to start off on a little bit of a tangent, because I love taking you down a rabbit trail.
[32:44] Rick Rome: There's two types of slavery that can happen.
[32:46] Rick Rome: The first one is: you take a person and demand their property or service and take them under your servitude.
[32:53] Rick Rome: The second type is you pay them to not provide a service or a good.
[32:58] Rick Rome: Both of them enslave people equally, but there's a difference between the two.
[33:03] Rick Rome: In fact, the first one, the etymology of the word actually goes back for thousands of years.
[33:09] Rick Rome: we only talk about the transatlantic slave trade in the school system, but the Ottoman Empire was doing it with Russian women and Yugoslavian women, basically.
[33:20] Rick Rome: Slavic women, the etymology of the word for the modern day equivalent of make me a sandwich and bring me a beer, if that gets the point across.
[33:29] Rick Rome: What we're doing is actually taking people and putting them in servitude to not provide a service, so that they are compliant and dependent solely upon the will of subsidies and support programs.
[33:45] Rick Rome: I mean, I myself have been a victim of it or have made myself a victim of it during the COVID years when I was laid off.
[33:50] Rick Rome: I had to turn down small amounts of work just because I didn't want to have to go through the process of the paperwork and jeopardize what unemployment I was eligible for at that time.
[34:00] Rick Rome: But in the 17th, and the second type, it requires consent.
[34:03] Rick Rome: And I consented to that requirement for the purpose of the short-term gain.
[34:07] Rick Rome: In the 1700s, there was this wonderful idea that was starting to develop that abdicated this idea about the divine right of kings and looked to the people, and the French Revolution had talked about it through documents like the law, Bastiat's The Law, where property is something that is a right.
[34:29] Rick Rome: But in the Americas, we talked about it in the context of God-given rights, which means that we have to consent to abdicate that responsibility for our rights, as opposed to them coming from government sources.
[34:44] Rick Rome: I bring this up because we have an election coming up.
[34:47] Rick Rome: And on that ballot, I'm just looking at mine.
[34:51] Rick Rome: We have two state ballot measures.
[34:53] Rick Rome: One is Proposition LL, where they're talking about keeping that$ 6 check that the county sends you.
[35:02] Rick Rome: This one's kind of like a pool shark type of a deal where they're, you know, keep it penny-ante until they get you on the table, and then they double down, jack up your taxes as soon as they don't have to return it.
[35:15] Rick Rome: The second one is because they spent all their money on homeless people in the city, in the, at the state level, and came into a budgetary shortfall and decided to hold us hostage and state employees hostage, just like donald trump's doing with the federal employees and saying: yeah, we can't afford it, so we're just going to go ahead and raise your taxes.
[35:31] Rick Rome: Both of these are involuntary or voluntary forms of servitude, where we consent or we deny our consent, and that is the power of the ballot.
[35:40] Rick Rome: But we were talking about city politics earlier, and in the city of Lakewood, we have a mayor's race that's going on right now.
[35:49] Rick Rome: We have one member who's on the ballot who's a dear friend and a trusted advisor, but I'm not voting for him.
[35:53] Rick Rome: We have another member who I ran against because I know that she is openly opposed to home rule charter and would happily abdicate her responsibility for zoning responsibilities to the state.
[36:11] Rick Rome: So in Centennial, we have she who must not be named, who would openly advocate a responsibility for zoning ordinances and let companies like BlackRock come in and scrape a single family house, put a fourplex.
[36:22] Rick Rome: It's the reason I ran against her.
[36:24] Rick Rome: And then we have Don Sheehan, who I'm openly supporting and endorsing, who's willing to stand up for the city's home rule charter, who's been an advocate for fiscal responsibility in the city.
[36:35] Rick Rome: I would consent to have that man lead me.
[36:38] Rick Rome: That's what we have at stake here, Kim.
[36:47] Kim Monson: Let's move over here to Fred Clifford.
[36:49] Kim Monson: He is one of my fellow Liberty Toastmasters from Liberty Toastmasters Denver.
[36:54] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts about this consent of the governed, Fred Clifford?
[37:00] Fred Clifford: I wanted to mention something about Federalist 51.
[37:03] Fred Clifford: And just to get a little background, the federal's papers were a series of essays published in various New York newspapers after the Constitutional Convention in order to persuade the states to ratify the Constitution.
[37:21] Fred Clifford: It says, if men were angels, no government would be necessary.
[37:25] Fred Clifford: And if angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.
[37:34] Fred Clifford: So when we're talking about we the people, if government were made up of angels, or maybe in other words, those of complete virtue, there would be no need for consent of we the people.
[37:46] Fred Clifford: So we the people are not angels, and government officials are not angels either.
[37:54] Fred Clifford: If men were angels, there would be no need for government.
[38:01] Fred Clifford: And if government officials were angels, we wouldn't need checks and balances.
[38:08] Fred Clifford: And one of those checks and balances is we the people.
[38:14] Kim Monson: Oh, Fred Clifford, thank you so much as well.
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[41:18] Kim Monson: She's the president of Liberty Toastmasters North.
[41:21] Kim Monson: And our subject that we're talking about is that the unique American idea, the government gets its power from the consent of the governed.
[41:30] Kim Monson: And Marshall Dawson is on the line with us.
[41:33] Kim Monson: Marshall, what's your thoughts about this?
[41:40] Marshall Dawson: Listen, you know, as a teenager, I was pretty active with our church youth group.
[41:45] Marshall Dawson: And at one point, the kids in our diocese traveled to the neighboring ones for a combined event.
[41:52] Marshall Dawson: I learned a new word and a different form of we the people.
[41:59] Marshall Dawson: Within this other diocese, all decisions were made by a consensus.
[42:04] Marshall Dawson: They put all of us kids that had about 75 of us perhaps in a circle, and we needed 100%agreement on anything and everything that we were to do that weekend.
[42:14] Marshall Dawson: And let me just tell you, it was not an efficient way to run an organization.
[42:17] Marshall Dawson: And looking back, I kind of have a wild streak now, but I wish I'd said something like, hey, I don't consent to this methodology and just blown the whole thing up.
[42:29] Marshall Dawson: But more than I think about it, we too often see the polar opposite when we talk about we the people, the polar opposite of a consensus.
[42:38] Marshall Dawson: We see small groups that can falsely aggrandize that they are the people, and that's not necessarily true.
[42:49] Marshall Dawson: In his farewell address in 1796, George Washington said, The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government.
[43:04] Marshall Dawson: So in other words, it was we the people, and if we're being transparent, I think it was Greg who said, it's we the people of the United States.
[43:15] Marshall Dawson: But we the people took a sweeping action to form the Constitution, yet it's we the individuals who live within the constraints and the power as enumerated by the Constitution.
[43:25] Marshall Dawson: And, you know, look, if we feel slighted, there's the court system, which is the avenue for redress.
[43:33] Marshall Dawson: I'll just note that President Trump has been following court's instructions.
[43:35] Marshall Dawson: You know, for all those people we're going to see this weekend saying, we the people are angry.
[43:40] Marshall Dawson: No, you know, Trump has been, you know, playing it by the book.
[43:47] Marshall Dawson: It's not something that I want to admit necessarily, but if we the people decide that we really want to change, then we the people, not a small group of individuals, need to take political action.
[43:58] Marshall Dawson: It's not enough just to get out there and rabble- rousewith me, you, and my cousin Frank.
[44:09] Marshall Dawson: It's something that I'm still trying to kind of think my way through.
[44:16] Marshall Dawson: But, you know, we the people as a collective versus a group of individuals is something I've been thinking about lately.
[44:23] Kim Monson: I'm going to have to noodle that around today, Marshall.
[44:26] Kim Monson: And Kathy, our next guest is Ross Clough from Liberty Toastmasters Denver.
[44:33] Kim Monson: And Ross, what's your thoughts about the consent of the governed?
[44:40] Ross Clough: And what I have been thinking about that is, historically, we've all been interested in voting, which is very important.
[44:47] Ross Clough: But that is no longer enough to protect our freedom.
[44:52] Ross Clough: Our freedom is under assault, both at the state and federal levels.
[44:58] Brief Interjection: Yeah, both.
[45:00] Ross Clough: And at the federal level, there's a new trend, which is very disturbing.
[45:07] Ross Clough: That's capitalism in name only, kind of like rhinos, but I think it's even worse.
[45:13] Ross Clough: And what we are seeing now, one example of this is our federal spending.
[45:19] Ross Clough: It is$ 300 billion, with a B more than it was during Biden's last year in office.
[45:29] Ross Clough: And if you remember, Biden had a nickname of Bidenflation because he spent so much.
[45:36] Ross Clough: That's not the kind of statistics that you want to have.
[45:37] Ross Clough: And part of the problem is we have what I like to call extreme lunatic socialist bills that have not been repealed.
[45:47] Ross Clough: And what that means is that it is socialism so bad that it not only violates free markets and U.
[45:58] Ross Clough: constitutions and things like that, but it also violates international trade laws.
[46:02] Ross Clough: And those two bills are the Inflation Reduction Act and the CHIPS Act.
[46:10] Ross Clough: If those were repealed, that would help out with reducing spending quite a bit.
[46:16] Ross Clough: And there's another issue, and that is what I like to call the optics of socialism.
[46:22] Ross Clough: It doesn't necessarily mean it's really bad socialism, but it looks really bad.
[46:28] Ross Clough: And that is we've got a situation where the U.
[46:31] Ross Clough: government actually owns significant shares of five major corporations, and that needs to be investigated.
[46:40] Ross Clough: It might not be as bad as it looks, but it looks pretty bad.
[46:44] Ross Clough: And so what can you do about these kind of things?
[46:51] Ross Clough: His number is 202- 225-2777and tell him how bad all the socialism is and that he needs to be working to fix that.
[47:04] Ross Clough: The other thing, the best practice you can get for your first amendment is that liberty toastmasters, that will make you more effective at communications, both speaking and written, so that I would recommend for anybody who is interested in keeping their their rights and their economic freedom, as well as their civil liberties, so that's what I would recommend everybody that is interested in liberty to do.
[47:38] Kim Monson: I can't wait to hear what he has to say about this unique American idea that the power from government comes from the consent of we, the people.
[47:46] Dave Walden: Hi, good morning, Kim, Kathy, Joe, everyone else.
[47:51] Dave Walden: I'll be as quick as I can because I know you're running late again, Kim.
[47:55] Dave Walden: Well, I mean, what happens is you get us on there and we just sometimes run I love it.
[48:03] Dave Walden: It is not possible to aggrandize the importance of the phrase, the consent of the government in the Constitution.
[48:12] Dave Walden: It stems from Jefferson's Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness in his Declaration.
[48:16] Dave Walden: Now, give these words, rights and consent, a little thought.
[48:22] Dave Walden: The difference between trespass and a visit to a neighbor, friend, or a fellow citizen is consent.
[48:31] Dave Walden: Consent of the owner of the property to be either visited or trespassed upon.
[48:37] Dave Walden: Another example, the difference between theft and commerce is consent.
[48:43] Dave Walden: Consent involving the owner of the property and whether it is to be taken against the owner's will or simply exchanged for mutual benefit.
[48:52] Dave Walden: Now, in perhaps the most obvious and sinister example, the difference between sex and rape is consent, consent by the owner of the property, either being forcibly violated without their consent or with their approval.
[49:10] Dave Walden: Now, all three of these activities of consent involve property.
[49:18] Dave Walden: So the bottom line being, consent or force wielded on property, whether it's the very life of someone or some minor portion of what it is they claim to own, it is not possible to aggrandize the importance of the word consent.
[49:47] Kim Monson: And Kathy, we've got a couple of minutes.
[49:49] Kim Monson: I know that you're sitting in traffic, getting your thoughts together on this.
[49:53] Kim Monson: What's your thoughts about this consent of the governed?
[50:00] Cathy Russell: everything through the lens of evolutionary progress.
[50:04] Cathy Russell: And Dave, you mentioned Jefferson, who was the idea who really focused on consent of the governed, but that goes way back to Cyrus the Great.
[50:13] Cathy Russell: And I've just been so enthusiastic about Cyrus the Great, who governed, he liberated Babylon by the consent of the governed.
[50:25] Cathy Russell: And he liberated all the Jews, and he also gave them money to rebuild the temple.
[50:32] Cathy Russell: He also went on to have a hugely successful empire that lasted 200 years because he helped the governed.
[50:43] Cathy Russell: He was governing according to the will of we the people.
[50:48] Kim Monson: And so this American idea, being governed by our consent, what I am seeing, what we heard about regarding Lakewood, What I'm seeing with many of these local governments and these counting governments is they, well, here even in the state, there's this illusion that we are having our voices heard.
[51:11] Cathy Russell: It's almost, Kim, a perversion of we the people.
[51:14] Cathy Russell: Because the people who are doing this, they are thinking we're doing this for the people.
[51:25] Cathy Russell: So it's a massive perversion that is not the will of the people.
[51:30] Kim Monson: And the thing about it, though, is these PBIs in these industrial complexes, whether or not it's homelessness or whatever it is, they are making big bucks on this.
[51:41] Kim Monson: Yes, and that's what everybody needs to know, and so few people know that.
[51:44] Kim Monson: Yeah, and so check out Open the Books.
[51:46] Kim Monson: Kathy, you're going to stay here for the next hour.
[51:50] Kim Monson: Our quote for the end of the show is from Maggie Thatcher.
[51:52] Kim Monson: She said this socialist cry, power to the people and raise their clinch fist as they say it.
[52:12] Kim Monson: And like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way.
[52:19] Kim Monson: And we are going to have a great second hour here.
[52:21] Kim Monson: And Kathy Russell has arrived, which is great.
[52:24] Kim Monson: And I think we need to talk a little bit more about the consent of the governed by We, the People.
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[54:47] Kim Monson: In studio with me is my friend, and that is Kathy Russell.
[54:52] Kim Monson: She is the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver.
[54:57] Kim Monson: The perspective, just hearing from our fellow Liberty Toastmasters regarding this unique American idea that the power of government is to be derived from the consent of we the people.
[55:10] Kim Monson: And Kathy, we see an illusion that we the people have a voice.
[55:17] Kim Monson: I would recommend that people check out my voters guide, which is at kimMonson.
[55:22] Kim Monson: There's a red ribbon at the top, you just put in your name and your email, and then we'll send you a link to that.
[55:27] Kim Monson: And I started to do this voters guide many years ago, because I would look at the ballot.
[55:34] Kim Monson: and what I was learning is sometimes the question on the ballot could be somewhat manipulated.
[55:42] Kim Monson: But many times also there was, for example, with Proposition LL and MM, there is legislation that, pages and pages of that.
[55:53] Kim Monson: And I thought people need to know what is going on with that.
[55:56] Kim Monson: And so it's been this illusion that we are giving our consent, But it's been manipulated really by both sides of the aisle, Kathy.
[56:06] Cathy Russell: And Kim, while we were talking before and you were mentioned at Douglas County event, a meeting where people, there were 40 plus people and they weren't all allowed to speak.
[56:17] Cathy Russell: And I've been in those kind of meetings where I knew that it was all show business.
[56:24] Cathy Russell: They had this public speaking time to make, to give, perpetuate the illusion that the people mattered.
[56:36] Kim Monson: And we're seeing this happen from people from both sides of the aisle.
[56:44] Kim Monson: You've got a hearing, and they may limit the people coming down there to speak.
[56:52] Kim Monson: I really think that every voice should be heard.
[56:55] Kim Monson: And you may not agree with it, but I think every voice should be heard if they have taken the time as a citizen to go down and sign up to speak.
[57:03] Kim Monson: I think every voice should be heard.
[57:05] Kim Monson: And that may mean that people are there for a while, but I think every voice should be heard.
[57:13] Kim Monson: So we have this illusion right now.
[57:17] Kim Monson: When we talked with Karen Gorday, who is an entrepreneur, owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting, busy with her business, busy with her life, and she's stepping forward to run for office.
[57:58] Kim Monson: We stand on those before us, and we have a responsibility to step forward now, Kathy.
[58:09] Cathy Russell: And one of our mottos at Liberty, Toastmasters, is that the freedom to communicate creates all of our other freedoms.
[58:16] Cathy Russell: And so what you're doing here is you are communicating and you're liberating us all, letting us know what is actually going on.
[58:29] Kim Monson: Let me get to our word of the day, Which is aggrandize, And it's A-G-G-R-A-N-D-I-Z-E, First definition To increase the scope of or to extend.
[58:39] Kim Monson: So, I guess on a positive note, Let's aggrandize liberty.
[58:44] Kim Monson: And next, to make greater in power, influence, stature Or reputation.
[58:49] Kim Monson: Or number three, to consider to be or cause to appear greater Than is really the case.
[58:53] Kim Monson: Our quote of the day is from Maggie Thatcher and, just going through her quotes, they're just, they're inspiring.
[59:01] Kim Monson: She was born in 1925, died in 2013.
[59:03] Kim Monson: She was a british stateswoman, prime minister, known as the iron lady.
[59:07] Kim Monson: She said this: the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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[59:31] Karen Levine: Karen, it sounds like it, it sounds like it, and um, and aggrandizing in all things, yes, we are, and I have to say thank you to you and Lorne Levy.
[59:42] Kim Monson: I was traveling last week and you, uh I guess, hosted the show and I thank you for doing that.
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[59:52] Karen Levine: I I appreciate your listeners who extend a lot of grace to me, but I think we had some very interesting discussions.
[60:01] Kim Monson: So let's talk a little bit about the metro real estate market.
[60:04] Kim Monson: There is opportunity, but buying, selling, what?
[60:09] Kim Monson: This is called what the fall buying season It is.
[60:15] Karen Levine: And it is, well, I have to say, I'm quite busy, but I am not too busy for any of your listeners.
[60:21] Karen Levine: We'll make time certainly to help them with their real estate needs.
[60:25] Karen Levine: But I have people who are wanting to make change because, you know, fall is the season of change, and they're looking to move up or move out or move in.
[60:37] Karen Levine: So I've got people coming from the East Coast, moving into Colorado, and people moving out to the East Coast.
[60:45] Karen Levine: So there's movement, which then creates opportunity for others.
[60:50] Karen Levine: And I'm working with a young man that works for TSA.
[61:01] Karen Levine: But as a young man, obviously his paycheck's important, but he's looking to become a first-time homebuyer.
[61:08] Karen Levine: And we have seen some great opportunities for him.
[61:12] Karen Levine: He has choice, and it used to be make your search very, very broad, and now we can make our search a little more narrow with not just the need things but some of the want things.
[61:26] Kim Monson: Well, and that's one of the things I love about you, Karen, is I know from you working with some people that I know that you sat down with them.
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[67:38] Kim Monson: Org in studio with me is my friend.
[67:40] Kim Monson: She is the president of liberty toastmasters north and that's kathy russell.
[67:46] Kim Monson: Really great to be here, kim, thank you.
[67:48] Kim Monson: And on the line with uh with us is pam long.
[67:51] Kim Monson: She is a west point graduate, a former captain in the army medical service corps, and she serves as the military director for children's health defense and she writes important essays for the Kim Monson show as well, as she's been speaking a lot and a regular guest on the show.
[68:12] Kim Monson: Good morning, and you've been getting a lot of mileage out of this essay that you put that we published regarding the tin scams in public health, and you've been speaking a lot about that.
[68:25] Kim Monson: A lot of different opportunities, right.
[68:26] Pam Long: We published it here at the Kim Monson show this summer, in august, in september and even october, november.
[68:32] Pam Long: I've been scheduled at various liberty groups, you know grassroots groups.
[68:36] Pam Long: Every time I speak at one group, I get invited to another group.
[68:40] Pam Long: It's really, they are the hot topics in public health.
[68:43] Kim Monson: Well, and it's so important to shed light on this, and people can find that essay at KimMunza.
[68:49] Kim Monson: This weekend in the newsletter, and it'll be on the website, we're posting your next one, and that is HHS changes the vaccine recommendations in 2025.
[69:02] Pam Long: Well, it started back in may with changes to the coped vaccine recommendation, where our health and human services, led by secretary kennedy, has changed the recommendation for the coded vaccine for own.
[69:16] Pam Long: It is not a universal recommendation anymore for all children, all people.
[69:21] Pam Long: It is not recommended for healthy children and healthy pregnant women, and this was just recently codified by the asap which as the advisory committee on immunization practices to the cdc.
[69:32] Pam Long: So there's not a universal recommendation.
[69:35] Pam Long: It is now a shared clinical decision making decision between parents and providers for children ages six months to 17 years, and so what we see here is- it sounds, you know, like it's kind of recommended, but it's not recommended.
[69:52] Pam Long: It can be very confusing to parents because the the CDC schedule was not updated immediately.
[69:58] Pam Long: So what we have here is your doctor, instead of saying, hey, this is recommended, you have to get it, it should be a different conversation.
[70:07] Pam Long: It should be, hey, some people have more risk than other people.
[70:12] Pam Long: Maybe immune compromised people have more risk.
[70:16] Pam Long: Maybe the elderly have more risk for upper respiratory viruses.
[70:20] Pam Long: And there are different options.
[70:22] Pam Long: It might not necessarily be this vaccine because some other people, also some doctors would tell you that just because you're immune compromised doesn't mean you should get every vaccine on the schedule, right?
[70:35] Pam Long: People who are immune compromised, including my own adult son, they have contraindications to some drugs and some vaccines as well.
[70:42] Pam Long: However, you almost always hear that you have to protect the immune- compromised right so, and then you have to take every recommended vaccine.
[70:51] Pam Long: These are very individualized discussions, and so we're turning from a um more to a consent discussion versus a ordered discussion of an assumed sale on a vaccine where, hey, everyone needs to get this.
[71:06] Kim Monson: So we're referring to this as the covid vaccine, but you and I have had many conversations that it's an experimental drug, if you will.
[71:17] Kim Monson: Has that definition changed, Pam Long?
[71:21] Pam Long: No, and the public does not understand this, that it is an emergency use authorized drug or vaccine, and that means it was never FDA approved.
[71:33] Pam Long: Not one single dose of the COVID vaccine given during the pandemic to date was FDA approved, and many people believe they were given an FDA approved vaccine.
[71:43] Pam Long: This was fast-tracked experimental emergency use authorized, which is very different than an fda approved vaccine, which is why it has never been mandated for schools, for participation in schools and daycares and colleges.
[72:00] Pam Long: Basically they were led to believe that this was fda approved and that it could be mandated for school or college or employment, or even in the military.
[72:11] Pam Long: It is still an experimental drug.
[72:13] Pam Long: And people who want it, you can still get it.
[72:17] Pam Long: It is covered by health insurance and many free vaccine programs.
[72:22] Pam Long: It's not being restricted in any way, but the recommendation is gone.
[72:26] Pam Long: And this should actually protect providers and pediatricians.
[72:30] Pam Long: Instead of being compelled to order this vaccine for their patients, you know, under threat of some type of disciplinary action, it should, it is moving in the right direction to a risk benefit conversation.
[72:43] Pam Long: However, we can get into what the American Academy of Pediatrics has done, made several steps to intervene on this change.
[72:54] Kim Monson: Because they filed a lawsuit, right?
[72:58] Pam Long: Oh, it's more than a lawsuit.
[73:01] Pam Long: So first of all, parents and consumers, anyone who takes vaccines needs to know that, you know, up until now, all of the recommendations for schools and jobs and daycares and, you know, healthcare providers are based on the CDC's recommendation, the recommended vaccines.
[73:18] Pam Long: For the first time in like 30 years, we're seeing a split where now states, especially blue states, almost all the blue states, are saying the American Academy of Pediatrics is leading this, are leading a lawsuit against Health and Human Services and Secretary Kennedy, demanding that this recommendation for the COVID vaccine would be resumed for children and all people and pregnant women and reinstatement to the CDC immunization schedule.
[73:47] Pam Long: And I just need parents to understand the American Academy of Pediatrics, it sounds like a medical organization.
[73:54] Pam Long: It sounds like you know experts.
[73:58] Pam Long: It is a lobbying organization.
[74:00] Pam Long: It is sponsored by all of the pharmaceutical companies it has.
[74:05] Pam Long: It is basically a key piece of the medical cartel funded by pharmaceutical industry, with a huge financial incentive to preserve the status quo.
[74:17] Pam Long: And so and so they're getting millions of dollars in federal grants and to fund this lawsuit, the taxpayer money to fund their lawsuit.
[74:26] Pam Long: To say we want to keep selling the coven vaccine to children, to pregnant women, to all people, because there's no liability in it for us.
[74:37] Pam Long: Right, we're just making money.
[74:40] Kim Monson: So what it's, I guess the first thing is is to shed light on this pam.
[74:46] Kim Monson: There's been people that have reached out, for example, on that essay that you did on senior asset theft.
[74:53] Kim Monson: This woman that found the essay reached out said no one else.
[74:57] Kim Monson: She could not find anyone else that was talking about this except you here with your essays on the Kim Monson show and the work you're doing with children's health defense.
[75:09] Kim Monson: What about this issue and the academy of american academy of pediatrics?
[75:20] Kim Monson: Jack, we had him on yesterday, he talks about this, but it's difficult to get this information.
[75:24] Kim Monson: I think that's the point I'm trying to make.
[75:26] Pam Long: It is very difficult to stay up to date with it.
[75:31] Pam Long: That's why this summary, I think, will help a lot of people, all the changes that have happened in 2025, because the CDC is no longer recommending certain vaccines, which we'll get to them all.
[75:41] Pam Long: And meanwhile, you have the American Academy of Pediatrics and some other medical groups who will continue to recommend these vaccines.
[75:49] Pam Long: And that's very confusing to a parent when they go into the pediatrician's office of, you know, if your doctor says, oh, yeah, we totally still recommend this vaccine.
[75:58] Pam Long: You may not know there's been this big rift between the American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC and that they have gone rogue, basically, and have decided to recommend vaccines that are separate from the CDC's recommendations.
[76:13] Pam Long: Most parents will not be able to discern the difference.
[76:17] Pam Long: And because the American Academy of Pediatrics has created their own title for this.
[76:21] Pam Long: It's called the Evidence-Based Immunization Schedule.
[76:25] Pam Long: And you can see where that sounds a lot similar to the CDC's recommended immunization schedule, right?
[76:32] Pam Long: Parents are going to be bamboozled, basically, to believe that some of these vaccines that are no longer recommended are still recommended.
[76:40] Pam Long: And that's why we're talking about it here on the Kim Monson Show.
[76:43] Kim Monson: Well, and Kathy Russell, you're a scientist.
[76:45] Kim Monson: As you're hearing this, what's coming to your mind on this?
[76:49] Cathy Russell: Well, what's coming to my mind is that there's a problem with estrogen, a similar kind of thing that the North American Menopause Society is doing the same thing.
[76:57] Cathy Russell: They're just completely diverged from actual evidence.
[77:00] Cathy Russell: And it's these pharmaceutical companies that are just driving everything.
[77:05] Kim Monson: Well, and there's coercion, which is one of our force words, Pam Long.
[77:13] Kim Monson: We're going to continue this discussion with Pam Long regarding her essay that we will be rolling out this weekend, which is recommended changes to the vaccine schedule.
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[81:11] Kim Monson: She is the military director with Children's Health Defense.
[81:16] Kim Monson: She's a West Point grad, former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps.
[81:20] Kim Monson: And in studio with me is my friend, scientist, president of Liberty Toastmasters North, Kathy Russell.
[81:27] Kim Monson: This is such an interesting conversation.
[81:28] Cathy Russell: Oh, it's totally very interesting what's happening.
[81:31] Kim Monson: And Pam, during break, we were talking about the American Academy of Pediatrics.
[81:37] Kim Monson: All these things sound so scientific and so official.
[81:40] Kim Monson: And Kathy had said something about the Northern American Menopausal Society or something.
[81:46] Cathy Russell: They just changed their name to the American Menopause Society.
[81:49] Cathy Russell: But it's a similar kind of thing where it's working on behalf of pharmaceutical companies, not necessarily in the interest of women's health.
[81:57] Kim Monson: So when I asked Kathy about this, she said something about estrogen, that there are studies that estrogen can really help people.
[82:04] Kim Monson: But they're not talking about that.
[82:07] Kim Monson: And Kathy, you said there's all these other pharmaceuticals that are being prescribed to women.
[82:14] Cathy Russell: If people don't have sufficient estrogen, whether it's men or women, people don't know this.
[82:22] Cathy Russell: And if they don't get enough, they get osteoporosis, they get dementia, they get the incidence of heart disease.
[82:29] Cathy Russell: And they just did the biggest study ever, 10 million women.
[82:32] Cathy Russell: They looked at them, all of them who took estrogen benefited, whether they're 65 or over.
[82:39] Cathy Russell: If you take the proper kind of estrogen replacement therapy, your chance of living longer, healthier, happier, just go up.
[82:48] Kim Monson: But instead, there's pharmaceuticals that are being prescribed for women that are having children.
[82:53] Cathy Russell: For all the problems that people have, like early onset dementia is one of the problems, heart disease.
[83:04] Kim Monson: I know this is A little off subject.
[83:09] Pam Long: What we're really Talking about here Is what I tell Every time I speak.
[83:12] Pam Long: I tell my audience: Look, when you go Into a medical facility, You need to Treat it like You're going into A used car Transplant.
[83:20] Pam Long: Transaction fail right, like you're talking to a used car salesman, because they're selling you a product right.
[83:25] Pam Long: You might not need the product.
[83:26] Pam Long: There might be a better product, but they only want to sell you the most profitable product.
[83:31] Pam Long: They're not going to tell you about the side effects or you know the problems you could have with their product, like a used car salesman, they want to sell you the product and until we shift our our trust to a level of zero trust, I don't trust what saying because you're selling me a product.
[83:47] Pam Long: The product is a drug or a vaccine.
[83:48] Pam Long: I'm going to go home and do my own research and then come back to you and make a decision.
[83:53] Pam Long: And, by the way, I might fire you because leading into my, the next part of this topic is: if you're, if you're, if you already are trusting the american academy of pediatrics- which you shouldn't because it's just given this position of authority that has not earned your trust in your life- know that they have called for the end of all religious exemptions to vaccines.
[84:18] Pam Long: Now they're not only medical experts over you, where you don't have a say in what you have to take all 70 doses of every vaccine or be excluded from society.
[84:30] Pam Long: But now we don't even believe in your religion.
[84:32] Pam Long: And now we're putting ourselves in between you and your God.
[84:35] Pam Long: Let me read a quote from a spokesperson for the American Academy of Pediatrics.
[84:40] Pam Long: Jesse Hackle said, quote, we recommend that vaccination is required for participation in certain public activities, such as school and daycare.
[84:49] Pam Long: And if you choose not to vaccinate, you're essentially choosing to exclude yourself from those settings.
[84:56] Pam Long: So the American Academy of Pediatrics is advocating for societal segregation for any person who opts out of any vaccine.
[85:03] Pam Long: There are 70 now, 70 plus doses recommended for U.
[85:07] Pam Long: children all the way up, you know, and then there's an adult schedule as well, by the way.
[85:12] Pam Long: So I'm looking at this just, you know, let's say I have immunity to chickenpox.
[85:17] Pam Long: Let's say I don't have a risk for chickenpox.
[85:20] Pam Long: The American Academy of Pediatrics is putting themselves in a position to say, well, we think you should get a booster every 10 years.
[85:28] Pam Long: Pam Long, you're excluding yourself from society.
[85:30] Pam Long: That's where this is happening, by the way.
[85:33] Pam Long: And to say that, you know, medical exemptions are legitimate.
[85:37] Pam Long: Well, you should also know that's a slight of hand as well, because the American Academy of Pediatrics has said will not they have sanctions for their doctors or pediatricians.
[85:47] Pam Long: So their doctors will not approve medical exemptions.
[85:50] Pam Long: Medical exemptions do not exist.
[85:53] Pam Long: So for them to now attack the religious exemptions, for most parents, that is the only way to get out of a vaccine that they have some type of deeply held, sincerely held personal belief, religious belief, philosophical belief.
[86:08] Pam Long: That's all under our religious beliefs.
[86:10] Pam Long: That's the only way out of these requirements is to use a religious exemption in the year 2025.
[86:16] Pam Long: So when the American Academy of Pediatrics says we don't want any more religious exemptions, one, it's not their place.
[86:23] Pam Long: They have constitutional rights in this country.
[86:25] Pam Long: But two, they're really saying we want zero exemptions to all vaccines.
[86:31] Kim Monson: OK, Pam Long, this weekend is supposed to be all of these no kings protests.
[86:38] Kim Monson: This sounds like somebody trying to be a king over we the people.
[86:43] Pam Long: This is absolutely what we would.
[86:46] Pam Long: I took a note to the constitution when I served in the armed forces.
[86:51] Pam Long: This is a domestic enemy right.
[86:53] Pam Long: This is someone on our soil taking over people's rights, putting them in a position to assert control over your lives, and this is not an elected entity.
[87:04] Pam Long: We didn't elect the american academy of pediatrics.
[87:10] Kim Monson: And sounds like somebody's trying to be a king over our lives.
[87:13] Kim Monson: This is the kind of stuff that we really need to protest.
[87:17] Kim Monson: And that is why we are shedding light on this.
[87:20] Kim Monson: Pam, as we're talking about this, and you and I got connected before COVID regarding the radical activists and those that are colluding with them have been at it for a long time.
[87:35] Kim Monson: And the issue was this vaccine legislation down here at the statehouse.
[87:41] Kim Monson: And I got connected with some moms that I would say probably lean to the left on a political spectrum.
[87:48] Kim Monson: But we came together on this medical freedom issue.
[87:52] Kim Monson: And there was this legislation down at the statehouse before COVID.
[87:55] Kim Monson: And that's where that quote that we have on the show came from is I read the legislation.
[88:00] Kim Monson: And I looked at it and I'm like, oh, my gosh, they are putting in place a law here in Colorado where some unelected bureaucrat will have the power to dictate what we put into our bodies.
[88:13] Kim Monson: And they were playing long ball on this, Pam Long.
[88:17] Pam Long: They are playing long ball and they were prepared before Secretary Kennedy even took position.
[88:23] Pam Long: And he took office, his position in February.
[88:26] Pam Long: And in March, there was a bill, HB 1027, this year that was, you know, it had some, you know, misleading title about updating.
[88:33] Pam Long: They always use like words like updating or modernizing, to take away your rights when it regards to medical freedom.
[88:40] Pam Long: And 1027 was about giving CDPG total control over the next pandemic or really any crisis.
[88:49] Pam Long: But when that bill came up, Senator Mullica amended it to say we will no longer follow the CDC recommendations.
[88:57] Pam Long: That's how that's how strategic they are.
[88:59] Pam Long: Before he has even made any changes at HHS, Secretary Kennedy.
[89:04] Pam Long: So Senator Mullica said, you know, we're taking the politics out of vaccine recommendations.
[89:09] Pam Long: And now we're changing that.
[89:11] Pam Long: We will no longer follow the CDC recommendations.
[89:13] Pam Long: We will follow the recommendations of the American Academy of Pediatrics and some other similar medical organizations.
[89:18] Pam Long: that's how strategic they are they are ahead of they see what's coming and they have already put in our in our state law here in colorado that we we are following the american academy of was there any disclosure that the american academy of pediatrics is a lobbying group and was given 34 million dollars you know in 2023 to promote vaccines or that the american academy of Pediatrics is financially sponsored by Eli Lilly, Glasgow Smith-Klein, Merck, Moderna, Sanofi.
[89:51] Pam Long: No, there's no conflicts of interest were mentioned.
[89:55] Kim Monson: And I wanted to mention the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is this all-volunteer group that we take a look at legislation.
[90:05] Kim Monson: We look at it from property rights, how it affects the taxpayers, parental rights, and protecting TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights.
[90:12] Kim Monson: We took a position on this, And this is what we said.
[90:17] Kim Monson: And the title on this House Bill 25-1027 Was: Update Disease Control Statutes.
[90:23] Kim Monson: Whenever you see the word, as you mentioned, update or modernization.
[90:27] Kim Monson: You know Katie bar the door on this, But this is what we said.
[90:31] Kim Monson: This bill repeals the Governor's Expert Emergency Epidemic Response Committee, Known as GERC, Which advises the Governor during public health threats and assigns its responsibilities to the Colorado Department of Health and Environment, and makes several changes to student immunization requirements.
[90:52] Kim Monson: It says while CUT supports the elimination of GERC, it opposes the state's continual meddling in children's vaccines.
[90:58] Kim Monson: Vaccinations are the responsibility of parents, not the state, not the king.
[91:03] Kim Monson: And schools may still expel students.
[91:06] Kim Monson: Schools may still expel students for lack of vaccinations, but no longer need to report those expulsions.
[91:11] Kim Monson: And this legislation, in assigning emergency responsibilities to CDPHE, does not address the overstep of authority that we experienced during COVID in addressing future pandemics.
[91:23] Kim Monson: Boy, I think our team nailed it on that, Pam.
[91:28] Pam Long: I actually was in support of the GERC because it actually brought more people to the table, outsiders versus just the bubble of CDPHE and the Board of Health, which we saw how they implemented a non-evidence-based recommendation, pseudoscience for masking and distancing.
[91:45] Pam Long: And I would give you an update that's probably going to appall you.
[91:48] Pam Long: So, you know, once a bill becomes law, that it goes to rulemaking at the CDPHE or whatever department that has oversight, they actually added into this terrible legislation that non-citizens are not required to provide any type of proof of vaccination in the state of Colorado.
[92:06] Pam Long: So citizens are subject to expulsion and suspension if they're out of compliance.
[92:12] Pam Long: You know, if a parent just needs more time to make, you know, they're making decisions on 70 doses.
[92:16] Pam Long: They need to get a doctor's appointment.
[92:18] Pam Long: They need to figure it out whether they need an exemption or not.
[92:23] Pam Long: So but our non-citizens, what they would call indigent people is how it's worded.
[92:29] Pam Long: They are not required to provide any documentations on immunizations, nor are there any sanctions.
[92:35] Pam Long: There's no suspension there.
[92:36] Pam Long: There's no risk of you know being um.
[92:40] Pam Long: Uh, what's the term when you miss too many days of school?
[92:44] Pam Long: Um, none of that applies to non-citizens here in the state of colorado.
[92:55] Kim Monson: We need to go to break so I can get my brain around this issue.
[93:03] Kim Monson: Colorado is where we seem to be headed here.
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[95:25] Kim Monson: And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show.
[95:32] Kim Monson: Do check out the website for the Center for American Values.
[95:36] Kim Monson: They are going to have an On Values presentation on Monday evening, and that should be very interesting by Norma Donlon.
[95:43] Kim Monson: And they are non-political, non-partisan, but focus on foundational principles like honor, integrity, and patriotism, and doing great work.
[95:53] Kim Monson: Kathy Russell, my friend and president of Liberty Toastmasters North, is in studio.
[96:01] Kim Monson: Pam Long always, she always has all the information.
[96:09] Kim Monson: Pam Long, you mentioned before we went to break that there is this forced coercion regarding the vaccine schedule.
[96:19] Kim Monson: And we'll be rolling out this important essay this weekend.
[96:27] Kim Monson: She said, did you notice how Polis, governor here in Colorado, was more than happy to push the clot shot?
[96:33] Kim Monson: I've never heard that term through lotteries when CDC recommended it during the pandemic and Biden's reign.
[96:39] Kim Monson: But now that real science is taking hold, he wants to go with the APA.
[96:44] Kim Monson: It's she said, who is the king again?
[96:49] Pam Long: Well, I just want people to recognize marketing.
[96:52] Pam Long: Like just recently, Governor Polis had a lot of backlash for publicly taking the influenza vaccine.
[96:59] Pam Long: And the influenza vaccine has very low efficacy, very high risk adverse events.
[97:05] Pam Long: Chronic illness can result from the influenza vaccine.
[97:08] Pam Long: And so when you see a celebrity or a government official, elected official taking a vaccine publicly.
[97:17] Pam Long: We should not be asking people about their vaccine decisions or any of their health decisions.
[97:22] Pam Long: When you see someone kind of breaking out of that and making a public spectacle or display of their vaccine decision, They are influenced by the pharmaceutical industry.
[97:31] Pam Long: They were told to go on October 1st.
[97:33] Pam Long: I mean, all sorts of celebrities and government officials did this on October 1st to kick up influenza season.
[97:43] Pam Long: Like, we should recognize it for what it is.
[97:46] Kim Monson: Well, and I think that's an excellent segue into the next thing that you're highlighting, And that is that the American Academy of Pediatrics in blue states, you mentioned that they were suing, but they're going rogue on these vaccine recommendations.
[98:04] Pam Long: Nearly every blue state has now implemented via legislation like here in Colorado, or an executive order from the governor, or what we call standing orders, where doctors and pharmacists have just made an order, where they're going to go rogue and they're going to keep recommending these vaccines.
[98:19] Pam Long: Now, this is a capitalist country.
[98:21] Pam Long: If you want these products, they're available to you.
[98:25] Pam Long: And often three of charge, they're covered by insurance and other programs.
[98:30] Pam Long: No one's saying you can't get these.
[98:32] Pam Long: What I'm saying is the deception is that some of these products are not recommended.
[98:37] Pam Long: And I should cover some of the other changes.
[98:39] Pam Long: So the MMR vaccine and in the Varicella, which is chickenpox, there's a combination vaccine that is no longer recommend it.
[98:46] Pam Long: So that was another the other big change from the ACIP, the committee, and then they postponed a vote on the hepatitis B vaccine.
[98:53] Pam Long: I do want to talk about this is a controversial vaccine.
[98:57] Pam Long: It is hepatitis B is a liver disease caused by a virus.
[99:01] Pam Long: It's transmitted through bodily fluids, typically sexual conduct or shared needles.
[99:06] Pam Long: Being an IV drug user is the most common risk for this disease.
[99:09] Pam Long: And infected pregnant mothers can pass the disease to their infants.
[99:13] Pam Long: But this is extremely rare.
[99:14] Pam Long: We're talking less than a thousand cases a year.
[99:16] Pam Long: We have universal screening for pregnant women that we you are screened.
[99:21] Pam Long: And the controversy is here is why are we giving an std vaccine to every single newborn baby on day one of life?
[99:29] Pam Long: And you know, because it does have a risk profile it can.
[99:35] Pam Long: It's associated with febrile seizures.
[99:36] Pam Long: Febrile seizures are, uh, can be devastating to an infant.
[99:40] Pam Long: It's considered life threatening in the first month of life.
[99:43] Pam Long: So you will see the asap committee in the near future decide if we want to postpone this vaccine to a recommendation at one month old.
[99:51] Pam Long: Most other countries who use this vaccine are giving it at two to three months old.
[99:56] Pam Long: I I would say every parent should question if their.
[100:00] Pam Long: child needs an STD vaccine on the first day of life or, you know, in the first 18 years of life.
[100:08] Kim Monson: So, but did you say that the mother could be screened to see if she has this?
[100:14] Kim Monson: Well, that seems like that would be the thing to do.
[100:17] Kim Monson: And then the mothers that do have that, then probably a recommendation for their infant for that would make sense.
[100:26] Pam Long: making total sense right now, even as a lay person.
[100:28] Pam Long: And I have read through all the transcripts of the ACIP committee.
[100:31] Pam Long: You know how they justify this?
[100:33] Pam Long: Well, they usually use one anecdotal case.
[100:36] Pam Long: And that's what they did with this.
[100:37] Pam Long: They said, well, one time there was one mother who miscommunicated that she was hepatitis B positive and her infant was impacted and contracted hepatitis B.
[100:50] Pam Long: And now every single baby in America receives the hepatitis B vaccine on the first day of life before we know anything about their health, their contraindications, their allergies for a disease they do not have and their mothers most likely do not have.
[101:07] Kim Monson: But just think about from a profit motive or from the profit mode, if you can get government to force people or coerce people to have to use your product, and that's a big moneymaker.
[101:22] Kim Monson: So, for example, if Polis would force everybody that they had to listen to the Kim Monson show and contribute to support us, boy, then I wouldn't have to be working so hard as an independent broadcaster.
[101:41] Pam Long: And it's more than profit, Kim.
[101:43] Pam Long: Psychologically, it's compliance training.
[101:45] Pam Long: If you do not question an STD vaccine for your newborn on the first day of life, if we've got that type of control over your decision making that you will not defy authority and medical experts, you will probably get every vaccine on the schedule up to 70 doses.
[102:06] Kim Monson: So in conclusion on this, and again, another important piece that we'll be rolling out, what do you want people to know about this, Pam Long?
[102:15] Pam Long: The remaining issues that I think the ACIP will cover this year is that the U.
[102:19] Pam Long: does not have an active surveillance system for monitoring vaccine reactions and that we are giving, that would be one.
[102:26] Pam Long: Number two would be: we're giving vaccines to pregnant women, despite vaccines are not safety tested on pregnant women, and that violates the ethics of do no harm.
[102:34] Pam Long: And three, that the vaccine information sheets that parents get at the pediatrician's office do not give proper informed consent on vaccine risk.
[102:42] Pam Long: They do not mention that disability and death are real risks of vaccines.
[102:47] Kim Monson: A question here, Pam, and this is from Gammy.
[102:50] Kim Monson: She said, does the CDC Foundation fund research paid by pharma, which then gives that data to CDC?
[102:57] Kim Monson: So I think she's saying that there's a big circle here.
[103:00] Pam Long: What she's saying is regulatory capture, where the pharmaceutical companies have completely captured nearly every federal agency and a medical association that people would regard as experts.
[103:14] Kim Monson: Okay, scientist, president of Liberty Toastmasters North, Kathy Russell, your final thought on all this.
[103:22] Cathy Russell: Oh, well, Pam, you are just a bright shining light of information.
[103:27] Pam Long: I don't know if we can say this is a bright shining light.
[103:31] Cathy Russell: Well, you're shining a bright light on a big, bad problem.
[103:37] Kim Monson: And then I just want to revisit this, that the state of Colorado is basically forcing, coercing parents to get vaccinations for their kids under threat of expulsion from school or daycare.
[103:53] Kim Monson: But in the rulemaking, the CDPHE said that basically children that are here illegally, they don't have to do that.
[104:03] Pam Long: And this has already been drafted.
[104:06] Pam Long: It was requested for rulemaking here in October.
[104:10] Pam Long: It will be voted on by the Board of Health in December.
[104:11] Pam Long: And unless there's massive public backlash, it will be approved in rulemaking in December.
[104:19] Kim Monson: Well, Pam Long, first, and how do you stay on top of all this?
[104:26] Pam Long: Everyone should be reading.
[104:28] Pam Long: I spend zero time on, like, other sources of entertainment beyond reading.
[104:32] Pam Long: Like, that is my only hobby in this season of life.
[104:36] Kim Monson: Well, and to that point, I always, I love to read as well.
[104:41] Kim Monson: And the fact that our kids, in some school districts, 70%of our kids that are in third grade cannot read and write and do arithmetic at grade level, but yet they are questioning whether or not they're a boy or a girl.
[104:55] Kim Monson: But if people cannot read, then that's a way, again, another way that there can be these kings over us because people can't read.
[105:06] Kim Monson: And so connecting that dot as well.
[105:07] Kim Monson: Pam Long, as always, I greatly appreciate you.
[105:13] Kim Monson: And Kathy, these discussions are so important.
[105:17] Kim Monson: But to be able to read, communicate, Liberty Toastmasters, I would recommend that people add that into their repertoire.
[105:29] Cathy Russell: Like you've been with Toastmasters and Heidi Ganahl.
[105:34] Cathy Russell: I saw her yesterday and she is just so articulate and she got her training with Liberty Toastmasters.
[105:42] Kim Monson: Liberty Toastmasters North meets in Longmont the second and fourth Saturdays of each month.
[105:47] Kim Monson: And Liberty Toastmasters Denver meets the first and third Saturdays at each month in Denver at Independence Institute.
[105:55] Kim Monson: We would love to have you join us, And you can be a guest, But it really helps you to be able to communicate so much better.
[106:01] Kim Monson: And our quote for the end of the show is from Maggie Thatcher.
[106:04] Kim Monson: She said: Socialists cry power to the people And raise their clenched fist, as they say it, But we all know what they really mean: Power over the people, Power to the state.
[106:14] Kim Monson: So, my friends today, be grateful.
[106:15] Kim Monson: Read great books, Think good thoughts, Listen to beautiful music, Communicate and listen well.
[106:20] Kim Monson: Strive for high ideals And, like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way.
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