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[00:27] Kim Monson: It is not fair that just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
[00:34] AmeriChicks Announcer: It's the Americhicks, dissecting issues as right versus wrong instead of right versus left.
[00:39] Kim Monson: And so they make deal, and they typically make deals with the big guys.
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[00:50] Kim Monson: I am Kim Monson, and we are dissecting these issues as right versus wrong instead of right versus left.
[00:55] Kim Monson: And we do need to be talking about these with our friends, our family, and our colleagues.
[01:00] Kim Monson: We've got another jam-packed show planned for you today.
[01:05] Kim Monson: So this is maybe one of the most informative hours of your day.
[01:08] Kim Monson: We're sure hoping that we're making that happen.
[01:10] Kim Monson: So first of all, let's jump in here just a little bit.
[01:15] Kim Monson: As we look at these issues, remember, the question is always freedom versus force, force versus freedom.
[01:22] Kim Monson: Socialism ultimately comes down to force.
[01:27] Kim Monson: And the results are that ultimately you have the haves and then you have the have-nots.
[01:32] Kim Monson: Socialism does not bring people up.
[01:37] Kim Monson: And the American idea is into human flourishing for everyday hardworking people.
[01:42] Kim Monson: And socialism is into bringing people down.
[01:45] Kim Monson: And we're seeing that on a continual basis in transportation, education, energy, housing, and water.
[01:51] Kim Monson: And it's through public policy that this is occurring right now, and we've seen a lot of carrots in these different arenas, and we're starting to see force jump into them as well, and so we need to continue to talk about this, because this american idea is worth protecting.
[02:08] Kim Monson: Steve producer steve, how are you doing this morning?
[02:11] Producer Steve: Sure, I'm sure, glad it's friday, before a three-day weekend.
[02:15] Producer Steve: Yes, uh, let's take care of our normal housekeeping thing, but let's come back to this idea of force, because I'm concerned about someone who's just surfing the dial and they just tuned into us and they're sitting there thinking force.
[02:31] Producer Steve: Nobody's forcing me to do anything.
[02:34] Producer Steve: I wonder if we could just expand on that a little bit, where we see that force is maybe right around the corner.
[02:45] Kim Monson: And so Let's do headlines, this first and second segment.
[02:48] Kim Monson: Third and fourth segment, we're going to have on the line with us Heather Laudan-Pera.
[02:52] Kim Monson: She is a concerned mom about forced vaccinations.
[02:56] Kim Monson: And Cindy Loveland, who is with the National Vaccination Information Center.
[03:01] Kim Monson: And as you all may know, Governor Polis issued an executive order.
[03:06] Kim Monson: He's busy on these kingship executive orders.
[03:10] Kim Monson: So King Polis had issued an executive order regarding childhood vaccinations.
[03:18] Kim Monson: And then he had kind of given a kind of a, it looked like maybe an olive branch to the whole issue.
[03:26] Kim Monson: And then this last week, things changed a bit.
[03:29] Kim Monson: So I can't wait to talk to Heather Laudan-Pera and Cindy Loveland on that.
[03:36] Kim Monson: First of all, well, I've got to say, you know, Steve, we got to remember to be grateful.
[03:41] Kim Monson: We got to remember to tell people thank you.
[03:43] Kim Monson: And that is why I'm so grateful for you, Producer Steve, Zach, Patty, Keith, and Charlie for this team.
[03:50] Kim Monson: You guys all do a really great job.
[03:52] Kim Monson: You work hard, and I just greatly appreciate that.
[03:55] Kim Monson: And to each of you listeners, love hearing from you.
[04:01] Kim Monson: com forward slash Kim or kim at americhicks.
[04:14] Kim Monson: And as you're thinking about what you're going to do with your time, be sure to strive for excellence, to take care of heart, soul, mind, and body.
[04:23] Kim Monson: And you'll have a pretty good day if you stay focused on those things.
[04:33] Kim Monson: Let's do the housekeeping things first that I think it's important that you all know.
[04:36] Kim Monson: So as you may be aware of, there's going to be an all-out assault to get rid of TABOR, the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, the Taxpayers Bill of Rights.
[04:46] Kim Monson: And as you look at the agenda of what these politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties, the PBIs in Colorado, are working towards, again, on socializing transportation, education, energy, housing, and water, You know, one of the things that we need to do is make sure that we don't turn the spigot on more so that we give them more and more money without them having to be transparent and accountable to us.
[05:13] Kim Monson: And that's basically what Tabor says.
[05:14] Kim Monson: It says, hey, PBIs, if you want to raise our taxes, if you want to incur debt that we have to pay off, or if you want to keep our tax refunds, and we'll give you a very generous formula of population plus inflation.
[05:27] Kim Monson: If you want to keep our tax refunds above that, you just have to have the good manners to ask us.
[05:31] Kim Monson: And so Natalie Minton is having a second training on a Taxpayers Bill of Rights boot camp.
[05:41] Kim Monson: It's at the Lone Tree Library in Lone Tree.
[05:47] Kim Monson: To register, go to coloradoengaged.
[05:52] Kim Monson: And the next, the week of September 16th through the 21st, I'll be there at the end of the week, it's Grand Lakes U.
[06:01] Kim Monson: And be sure and check that out, GrandLakeUSConstitutionWeek.
[06:06] Kim Monson: Tom Cranawitter will be kicking it off.
[06:08] Kim Monson: I'll be at the other end on the bookends, and I'll be emceeing the main event.
[06:13] Kim Monson: And the keynote speaker is Kevin Sorbo.
[06:22] Kim Monson: He got many, many different movies, but he's a conservative in Hollywood, and so that is going to be really exciting.
[06:29] Kim Monson: And Constitution Week up in Grand Lake, it's such a taste of Americana.
[06:36] Kim Monson: And I'll be up there Friday afternoon.
[06:40] Kim Monson: You can buy tickets, meet and greet with Kevin Sorbaugh on Friday night, and then the parade the next day, and then beautiful fireworks over Grand Lake.
[06:51] Kim Monson: So go to, let's see, it's grandlakeusconstitutionweek.
[06:54] Kim Monson: com for more information, and I'd love to see you up there.
[06:57] Producer Steve: Don't forget to mention your specific place of honor in the parade.
[07:03] Kim Monson: Well, I think I'm going to be in the car with Kevin Sorbo.
[07:11] Kim Monson: And I am going to have a bunch of candy that I'm going to be throwing out to the kids.
[07:16] Kim Monson: Remember in the old days when you'd go to a parade and they would actually throw out candy?
[07:22] Kim Monson: Well, you know, the progressive leftists have gotten a hold of parades as well.
[07:27] Kim Monson: A lot of different towns you can't throw out candy.
[07:30] Producer Steve: That's a piece of small-town America.
[07:33] Producer Steve: We used to go up to Windsor several times a year for different parades that they have in that wonderful little town.
[07:41] Producer Steve: And throwing candy was just, you know, everybody was doing it.
[07:47] Kim Monson: And actually there's big kids that go for it as well.
[07:49] Kim Monson: So I've got to get over to get my candy for that.
[07:52] Kim Monson: One other thing, you know, clearly we have an opinion about things.
[07:58] Kim Monson: However, we always are searching for truth.
[08:02] Kim Monson: And yesterday, Patty Kurgan was on.
[08:04] Kim Monson: She has an excellent piece that is at Americhicks.
[08:07] Kim Monson: com regarding parents giving up guardianship so that their kids can go to college.
[08:15] Kim Monson: And she took a look at the rising cost of tuition, as well as what the chancellors and presidents are making at these universities.
[08:27] Kim Monson: Tony Frank up at CSU is coming in over a million dollars, if you can believe that.
[08:32] Kim Monson: And she had mentioned Duke, and she is a Duke graduate.
[08:36] Kim Monson: And she mentioned that she thought that tuition was$ 4,000 when she attended.
[08:42] Kim Monson: That was actually for one semester.
[08:46] Kim Monson: It's now over$ 70,000 to go to school at Duke.
[08:49] Kim Monson: But Patty wanted to make sure that I clarified that.
[08:58] Kim Monson: He says, Courage is almost a contradiction in terms.
[09:01] Kim Monson: It means a strong desire to live, taking the form of readiness to die.
[09:07] Kim Monson: That's pretty heavy, Steve, pretty heavy.
[09:09] Kim Monson: But I think about all of these World War II veterans and our other veterans that put their lives on the line because they have a strong desire to live, but they're ready to die for something greater than themselves, and so that was G.
[09:25] Kim Monson: Chesterton okay, are you ready Steve for the funnies?
[09:30] Kim Monson: I had to search for these okay and oh, little Stevie says, hey mom, you know that lovely vase in the dining room that has been handed down from generation to generation?
[09:45] Kim Monson: And his mother replies, yes, what about it?
[09:48] Kim Monson: And little Stevie says, well, the last generation just dropped it.
[09:54] Producer Steve: Yes, please.
[09:55] Kim Monson: Teacher, Stevie, I told you to write out this poem at least 10 times to improve your handwriting.
[10:03] Kim Monson: And Stevie says, looks like my counting isn't too good either.
[10:10] Producer Steve: Mercifully, the last one.
[10:11] Kim Monson: Teacher, if you had one dollar and you asked your father for another, how many dollars would you have?
[10:20] Kim Monson: And teacher says, you don't know your arithmetic.
[10:23] Kim Monson: And Stevie says, and you don't know my father.
[10:29] Producer Steve: This is what I get for questioning the research in these particular funnies, that it was always little Johnny getting hammered.
[10:39] Producer Steve: Now it's...
[10:40] Producer Steve: Bad.
[10:41] Kim Monson: Okay, we have a few minutes in this segment.
[10:43] Kim Monson: You wanted to go back and talk about this force thing and the different things that are happening to us.
[10:52] Kim Monson: Many people may say, hey, I'm not feeling force right now, but there is a heavy hand of force on public policy that's making things more expensive.
[11:01] Kim Monson: It's kind of secretly taking money out of your pocket.
[11:03] Kim Monson: An example would be King Polis' executive order that's trying to push people into electric cars.
[11:11] Kim Monson: And what will happen is the cars that we want, the cars and trucks that work for our lives, are going to become more expensive.
[11:18] Kim Monson: So you don't even really know it, but that's a very secret force that's occurring.
[11:24] Kim Monson: But we're all going to get whapped on the side of the face pretty quick here.
[11:28] Producer Steve: Who's our friend from the Colorado auto dealers?
[11:32] Producer Steve: Tim Jackson.
[11:33] Producer Steve: Again, I would love to think that he is, because of his position, he's out there working with dealerships across the state and saying, you know, let's have an awareness here of what's going down and make sure that when your customers walk onto your lot and they're seeing that sticker price, they have a full idea of what's contributing to that sticker price.
[11:59] Producer Steve: and not just like, oh, okay, well, I'm going to try to haggle my best to haggle down here, but there's just some things that you're not going to be able to haggle away when the government steps in and says, we're putting this additional cost into this vehicle.
[12:17] Kim Monson: That is a really, really good idea that if, in fact, dealers would start to say that the cost of this vehicle, regulations contribute to the rising cost of this vehicle.
[12:31] Kim Monson: We've had Randall Atul on regarding housing, and he has researched, tremendous research all across the country, and he said right here in the Denver metro area that 50%of the cost of new housing goes to rules and regulations.
[12:47] Kim Monson: If, in fact, PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties were really interested in affordable housing, then you know what they would do?
[12:56] Kim Monson: They would actually try to reduce the cost of housing instead of all of these programs that are forcing people into these apartments that you are seeing.
[13:08] Kim Monson: Housing is getting so expensive, they're forcing our young people, people into apartments.
[13:11] Kim Monson: And when you pay rent, you're not creating any equity.
[13:14] Kim Monson: And they're expecting that everyday people live in these apartments, ride these trains back and forth.
[13:20] Kim Monson: And when you come around that corner going south on I- 25and you come around Santa Fe and then Broadway, you look to the south there, it looks like Russia.
[13:30] Kim Monson: I mean, there's no real architectural creativity in those buildings.
[13:37] Kim Monson: And it just looks like big box with little boxes in it that they want people to live in.
[13:42] Kim Monson: And they're working with public policy to force us into it because they are making housing so expensive, Steve.
[13:47] Producer Steve: I'm not going to fool around Robin on you.
[13:50] Producer Steve: Back to Tabor.
[13:51] Producer Steve: Taxpayers' Bill of Rights.
[13:53] Producer Steve: Yes.
[13:54] Producer Steve: The TA and Tabor is taxpayers.
[13:56] Producer Steve: You might think that you have a handle on how much you pay in taxes per year, but I'm betting you don't, you, the average listener.
[14:04] Producer Steve: You really need to start tearing into it and going beyond your pay stub, especially at tax time.
[14:17] Producer Steve: All the hidden taxes and fees that are out there.
[14:19] Producer Steve: I think that we should do that.
[14:21] Producer Steve: Most people probably really aren't aware.
[14:23] Producer Steve: But I think once you start to get an idea, you'll start to figure out why this assault on Tabor is so critically important.
[14:29] Producer Steve: You gave me an idea.
[14:32] Kim Monson: I'm not going to say what it is yet.
[14:35] Kim Monson: But there's a fire burning over here, Steve, a fire burning over here.
[14:40] Kim Monson: We have some important headlines to talk about in the next segment.
[14:44] Kim Monson: Segments three and four we'll be talking with heather, heather laudan, para and cindy loveland about forced vaccinations, data collection on our kids.
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[16:40] Kim Monson: I am Kim Monson, and we are Dissecting Issues.
[16:45] Kim Monson: Agree or disagree, we are having conversations about important issues.
[16:49] Kim Monson: And I tell you what, call Karen Levine at 303-877-7516 with RE-MAX Alliance and buy your house down in the Lewis Palmer School District.
[17:03] Kim Monson: The Lewis Palmer School District won't teach the new sex education law.
[17:08] Kim Monson: One school district along the Front Range says it will not follow a new law about how sex education is taught in Colorado schools.
[17:15] Kim Monson: Lawmakers passed the controversial measure this past session up here under the Golden Dome.
[17:20] Kim Monson: As controversial as House Bill 19-1032 was in January when it was introduced, it should come as no surprise that as a law, not all Colorado communities have embraced it.
[17:32] Kim Monson: And just so you know, it's a sex education law that mandates, it forces, got it, Steve, forces school districts to do a whole variety of things.
[17:45] Kim Monson: But one of them is to teach the experiences of the LGTBQ lifestyle.
[17:54] Kim Monson: And I really don't think that that is the proper role of government.
[18:01] Kim Monson: School administrators with lewis palmer school district 38 have announced they won't follow the law because they don't want state lawmakers telling them how to teach their kids.
[18:09] Kim Monson: We like how it currently works, so we are going to leave it alone, said district 38 school board member mark puff or puff.
[18:16] Kim Monson: Allison macklin is the vice president of education for planned parenthood and she thinks colorado's previous law was incomplete.
[18:24] Kim Monson: That's why she supports the new sex education law.
[18:28] Kim Monson: She said the new law makes sex ed is taught comprehensively, including information about consent, contraception other than abstinence, and LGBTQ relationships.
[18:39] Kim Monson: And if this is comprehensive approach isn't something school districts want, then they don't have to teach sex ed at all.
[18:46] Kim Monson: Okay, so once again, she wants to take away their choice.
[18:50] Kim Monson: You know, Planned Parenthood talks about choices all the time, when in essence they're taking away the choice of the baby.
[18:56] Kim Monson: But here, she said, if you don't do what we say, then you can't do it at all.
[19:01] Kim Monson: I mean, I find that absolutely astonishing.
[19:03] Kim Monson: So still, the district says, if it isn't broke, don't fix it.
[19:07] Kim Monson: They don't think their curriculum is broken.
[19:09] Kim Monson: Are kids coming out of school right now broken because we haven't been doing this?
[19:12] Kim Monson: I think our kids have done wonderful, said Poff.
[19:17] Kim Monson: And there's all kinds of things going on here.
[19:19] Kim Monson: First of all, Allison Macklin wants to take away the choice of School District 38 from how they teach their kids about sex education.
[19:32] Kim Monson: Secondly, the Colorado legislature has wanted to take away the choice of the oil and gas industry to be able to basically drill new wells here in Colorado.
[19:46] Kim Monson: And one of the ways that they have done that is in the, which now I can't remember which bill that was, but was that 181?
[19:55] Kim Monson: I think it was Senate Bill 181, where it said that local municipalities and counties can actually make their decision on how they deal with oil and gas.
[20:06] Kim Monson: So shouldn't the Lewis Palmer School District be able to make their choices as Well, I think so.
[20:13] Kim Monson: Steve, do you have any comments on that before I move along?
[20:15] Producer Steve: The most obvious thing was, all right, where's the heavy hand that's going to come down and basically swat them?
[20:25] Producer Steve: Basically just put them up against the wall and say, yes, you will.
[20:29] Producer Steve: Because one school district does it, then another, and then another, and next thing you know, the state is pretty pockmarked with districts that are adhering and those that are not.
[20:40] Kim Monson: But see, and see, that's really the American idea is government should be as local as possible.
[20:46] Kim Monson: So if a school district does not, if the parents, the families in that school district want to make a different choice, they should be able to do that.
[20:54] Kim Monson: So it's going to be really interesting.
[20:56] Kim Monson: But I tell you what, my hat's off to the school district 38.
[21:00] Producer Steve: I love the comment, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[21:03] Producer Steve: Because in our 240-some year history, the methodologies of teaching this subject have been, you know, it's basically been working.
[21:16] Producer Steve: Yes, there are exceptions.
[21:17] Producer Steve: But to get behind a program like this, and I think the worst part of it was, and I was scrambling to try and find the verbiage that was in the bill.
[21:25] Producer Steve: But the, and I'm going to paraphrase here, but basically, any outside interference by religious, that's right- things would not be tolerated.
[21:34] Kim Monson: I say, how can you possibly, and I would submit to you that this, this whole lgtbq, and I'm talking on the, the macro level, on a micro level, we all have friends, family members that are gay, but I'm, I'm talking on the macro level.
[21:54] Kim Monson: And Planned Parenthood is writing the curriculum for this sex education, and they are paid to do that.
[22:03] Kim Monson: So when Allison Macklin comes out, Vice President of Education for Planned Parenthood, she's also thinking about the money that is involved in this.
[22:12] Kim Monson: You have the legislature mandate force that all these school districts have to have a curriculum, and Planned Parenthood is writing the curriculum.
[22:22] Kim Monson: The school districts have to purchase it with taxpayer dollars.
[22:27] Kim Monson: I mean, it is a circular web that has been very brilliant.
[22:39] Kim Monson: And I'm just really excited about that.
[22:42] Kim Monson: Another thing that's pretty amazing, and that is, did you see this?
[22:45] Kim Monson: Boris Johnson, the new Prime Minister of Britain has asked the Queen to suspend Parliament.
[22:53] Kim Monson: And the reason is, is because Britain is supposed to Brexit, to exit the European Union.
[23:01] Kim Monson: And Theresa May kept dragging her feet.
[23:03] Kim Monson: I think they kept trying to kick the can down the road till the next election.
[23:07] Kim Monson: And Boris Johnson came in and he said he's going to honor Brexit.
[23:10] Kim Monson: He was one of those very involved in that.
[23:13] Kim Monson: and the people of Britain have said we want to be sovereign.
[23:16] Kim Monson: We don't want to be part of the European Union.
[23:19] Kim Monson: And the globalists, and we have globalists here, the globalists have wanted to have kind of a one-world government and people are pushing back on that.
[23:29] Kim Monson: So what has happened is Boris Johnson has asked the Queen to suspend Parliament.
[23:35] Kim Monson: She said she's going to do that and then it's not going to give those Brits that want to stay in the European Union, in Parliament, the time that they would need to craft legislation to stop it.
[23:50] Kim Monson: And so it looks like Britain is actually going to exit by probably October 31st.
[23:58] Kim Monson: Another thing before we get to Jason McBride, and that is, let's see here.
[24:06] Kim Monson: Once again, we've got force as far as pushing us towards wind and solar.
[24:16] Kim Monson: Walmart lawsuit photos reveal scorched roofs and massive damage.
[24:21] Kim Monson: As it claims, Tesla solar panels caught fire at seven stores.
[24:26] Kim Monson: Walmart says Tesla's solar panels caused millions of dollars in damages in a new lawsuit, providing photos that appear to show scorched roofs and ruined solar panels as evidence.
[24:39] Kim Monson: On Tuesday, Walmart filed a suit accusing Tesla's solar energy subsidy anyway, part of that, I can't say it this morning, then called SolarCity of gross negligence.
[24:50] Kim Monson: According to Walmart, seven stores caught on fire due to widespread negligence of Tesla's employees that resulted in solar panels catching on fire.
[24:58] Kim Monson: The complaint includes images of scorched roofs and significant damage.
[25:05] Kim Monson: Tesla did not immediately respond to a request for a comment from Business Insider.
[25:09] Kim Monson: A fire broke out on the roof of a Walmart store in Indio, California on May 29, 2018, resulting in$ 8 million in damages.
[25:19] Kim Monson: So that's a really interesting take on all of this.
[25:22] Kim Monson: And once again, when we talk about Elon Musk, Tesla, SolarCity, there's a significant amount of force that is going on.
[25:30] Kim Monson: We see right here in Colorado the executive orders by Governor Polis and, excuse me, King Polis and Governor Hickenlooper that want to push people into electric cars.
[25:44] Kim Monson: And if the dealers don't have a certain percentage of their fleet that they sell in electric cars, then they're going to be penalized.
[25:52] Kim Monson: It's going to increase the cost of the vehicles that you and I want that make our lives better.
[25:58] Kim Monson: And then Tesla is the only place where dealers can actually buy credits to offset those penalties.
[26:05] Kim Monson: I mean, is that not amazing, Steve?
[26:08] Producer Steve: Yeah.
[26:08] Producer Steve: I don't know.
[26:11] Producer Steve: I'm trying to go into the weekend on an up note, and we keep on finding things to make you think otherwise.
[26:17] Kim Monson: There's a lot of great stuff out there.
[26:19] Kim Monson: You know, I don't want to depress you because there's actually so many exciting things going on out there.
[26:29] Kim Monson: I hope that I haven't made your weekend sad as well, Jason McBride.
[26:45] Jason McBride: Well, you know, I've been pretty positive the last couple of days.
[26:50] Jason McBride: The market looked like it might be getting in trouble.
[26:54] Jason McBride: And then once again, it's schizophrenic and now has bounced back up the last couple of days pretty strongly.
[27:16] Jason McBride: 30 and right now the futures are showing it's going to open up about 17.
[27:22] Jason McBride: So you know, at least we could have some fun today saying: is it going to bust above or is it going to get knocked back down again?
[27:29] Jason McBride: And you know, are we going to come out of this little sideways pattern here and try to move higher or not?
[27:36] Jason McBride: So I think it's been kind of a nice positive of action in the market the last couple days for sure.
[27:43] Kim Monson: Well, Jason, the other day you talked about this head and shoulders thing that you were looking at.
[27:48] Kim Monson: And so the shoulder, what you're saying, is kind of extending out, and we'll see if it goes up or down then.
[27:54] Jason McBride: You know, we're still working to see if that right shoulder is going to form or not.
[28:03] Jason McBride: It's one of those patterns I said, huh, this might be turning into one of these, which would be a caution note.
[28:10] Jason McBride: But we still got some work to do on the right side, so the market may foil the plans of negativity here.
[28:20] Jason McBride: And another thing, did you see Trump made Dorian miss Puerto Rico?
[28:26] Jason McBride: It was his fault last time when Maria came and hit Puerto Rico, so he must have somehow caused this new hurricane to miss it.
[28:37] Kim Monson: I hadn't really thought about it like that, but I guess if he gets the blame, he should get the credit as well.
[28:44] Kim Monson: Although I guess Dorian may hit Florida.
[28:45] Kim Monson: I guess they're getting ready for it, right?
[28:50] Kim Monson: Well, and there's a big voting bloc.
[28:53] Kim Monson: But, hey, before we go, though, we're coming into Labor Day weekend, and I think that once people get back, they start to focus on what's going to be happening in September.
[29:03] Kim Monson: And you and I are doing something very cool on September 16th with Jeff Hirsch, who is the author of the Stock Traders' Almanac, and it's going to be over at Jen Hewlin's Water's Edge Winery.
[29:16] Kim Monson: And seating is limited, and this is unique.
[29:19] Kim Monson: Normally all the events that I do is people, you know, they buy their food, they buy their drink.
[29:28] Kim Monson: Moneybags because it's going to be, everything's going to be included.
[29:36] Kim Monson: Reservations are coming in at a brisk pace.
[29:38] Kim Monson: And I would recommend if you're thinking about waiting until after Labor Day, I'd go ahead and do it today because I think it's going to sell out here very quickly.
[29:46] Jason McBride: Well, I certainly hope you're right on that, Kim.
[29:49] Jason McBride: And we keep having a disagreement about who's paying for it.
[29:57] Jason McBride: Jen might be pretty unhappy at the end of the night.
[29:59] Kim Monson: Well, we'll continue this conversation.
[30:05] Kim Monson: You know, we'll flip for that, okay?
[30:08] Kim Monson: And hopefully Steve will get me a nickel that has about two tails on it or two heads on it, and we'll go ahead and flip for that, okay?
[30:13] Jason McBride: Well, you know, I'm working on Steve, too, so neither one of us can trust him now.
[30:21] Kim Monson: So, Jason McBride, if people want to sign up for this, they can go to my website, Americhicks.
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[30:29] Kim Monson: Or Natalie will be at the phone at about 730.
[30:38] Kim Monson: As I'm seeing the names come in, I don't know a number of the people that are signing up, So thank you to my listeners, but I know a number of people that are, so it's going to be a really fun evening.
[30:47] Kim Monson: And, you know, you're going to also meet some really, really great folks.
[30:53] Jason McBride: I think it's going to be a lot of fun, too, and I'm definitely looking forward to it.
[31:00] Jason McBride: I've never done this before exactly this way, so it'll be fun to see how it plays out, and there'll be a couple of surprises, too.
[31:10] Kim Monson: Oh, and I want you to tell your story about the$ 185,000 bottle of scotch.
[31:16] Jason McBride: Boy, everybody might be getting tired of that one, but we'll do it again.
[31:20] Kim Monson: Jason, have a great weekend, and we will talk to you on Monday.
[31:27] Kim Monson: When we come back, we will be chatting with Heather Laudan-Pera.
[31:36] Kim Monson: She's concerned about forced vaccinations, But what she's really concerned about is the data collection on children and families.
[31:43] Kim Monson: And Cindy Loveland will also be joining us.
[31:45] Kim Monson: She's with the National Vaccination Information Center.
[31:51] Kim Monson: And data collection, you know, that is another thing that we need to be very careful of because the more data that all these different organizations have on us, ultimately, then they can force their agenda.
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[33:39] Producer Steve: Hey, welcome back.
[33:45] Kim Monson: We are dissecting issues as right versus wrong instead of right versus left, agree or disagree.
[33:50] Kim Monson: I am so excited to have on the line with me two women that care deeply about what's going on with our kids.
[34:02] Kim Monson: And I met her after I read the forced vaccination bill that had been introduced down at the Capitol this last year.
[34:09] Kim Monson: And, you know, I used to think that reading these bills were above my pay grade.
[34:15] Kim Monson: And I realized that actually we can understand them.
[34:23] Kim Monson: And Cindy Loveland is also on the line.
[34:25] Kim Monson: She is with the National Vaccination Information Center.
[34:29] Kim Monson: And we're going to be talking about data collection on our kids.
[34:34] Kim Monson: And Cindy, it's great to have you here as well.
[34:40] Kim Monson: Heather, I'm going to have you help me set this up because you and I came together.
[34:45] Kim Monson: We actually met several years ago, but you'd sent some information to me about this forced vaccination bill, and I kind of put it aside, and then when I finally read it, I'm like, I see big danger in this bill.
[34:59] Kim Monson: And I personally, I think that vaccinations against childhood diseases are a good idea, but what happens is good ideas can be then wrangled into something that we never ever intended.
[35:15] Kim Monson: And that's what I saw with this forced vaccination bill.
[35:18] Kim Monson: And I think that informed consent is a really good idea that moms and dads and families understand what's going into these vaccinations, because what is being proposed now is totally different than when I vaccinated my kids.
[35:35] Kim Monson: And so anyway, that's how we came together.
[35:41] Heather Lahdenpera: So we talked a little bit last year on a couple shows about the bill that was proposed last year, which was HB 1312.
[35:53] Heather Lahdenpera: One was that it was going to increase the required for school shot schedule from 21 shots to 52 shots.
[36:05] Heather Lahdenpera: So it was going to add about 29 more shots to the school schedule by the time a child graduates from high school.
[36:12] Heather Lahdenpera: And so you mentioned in the introduction that it's different from when you were vaccinating your kids.
[36:18] Heather Lahdenpera: And just to put that in perspective, when you and I were kids, Kim, we would have had a total of 11 shots by the time we were 18.
[36:30] Heather Lahdenpera: And so now that number is up to 52 on the recommended CDC schedule.
[36:35] Heather Lahdenpera: So this bill tried to increase our required shots from 21 to the full CDC schedule.
[36:43] Kim Monson: A danger that I saw with this bill is that it put this decision-making on these suggested or, in a way, almost forced vaccinations if your kids are going to get into school.
[36:54] Kim Monson: And what I saw then is they might not stop at 52.
[37:00] Kim Monson: There might be a whole bunch more that might be coming in.
[37:04] Heather Lahdenpera: And in fact, we know that there's over 200 vaccines in the pipeline for various diseases, and it would have allowed our Board of Health to add those ad nauseum.
[37:25] Kim Monson: Unelected PBIs, I'm calling them politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties.
[37:28] Kim Monson: In this case, the interest of parties might be the drug companies that would stand to make money on these additional 200 vaccinations.
[37:38] Kim Monson: But number two, what did you say that this bill did?
[37:40] Heather Lahdenpera: And then what's relevant to today's conversation that this bill sought to achieve was that if a family were to take a vaccine exemption for their child to attend school, So in statute right now, parents are allowed to opt out of vaccinations for three reasons.
[38:05] Heather Lahdenpera: And all a parent needs to do, according to statute, which is the law, is to write a letter to the school stating that they will be exempting their child from vaccinations, whichever those vaccinations may be.
[38:20] Heather Lahdenpera: Now, even if a family is saying, I don't want my child to have the chickenpox vaccine, or I don't want my child to have the hepatitis B vaccine, they still have to file this exemption.
[38:32] Heather Lahdenpera: This bill sought to require parents to fill out a state-mandated form in person at the health department.
[38:51] Heather Lahdenpera: The reason is that because these forms that the state has created, the last time they tried to do this after legislation failed, they tried to misinform schools and get parents to register with the state using these forms.
[39:03] Heather Lahdenpera: These forms contain personally identifiable information on every child.
[39:08] Heather Lahdenpera: That would be then entered into a state database, a registry, if you will, like a sex offender would have to fill out information with address, with name, into a state database.
[39:21] Heather Lahdenpera: I find that very concerning because we have no idea, and in this bill, the health department has never created a privacy statement, a policy on what will happen to this data.
[39:39] Heather Lahdenpera: There were two states a few years ago, and their information systems, immunization information systems, were used to push letters out to parents who had not given their children the Gardasil vaccine, which is not required for school.
[39:58] Heather Lahdenpera: It just directed them to go to the health department or to their doctor and get their children vaccinated for this disease, which wasn't on the required for school list.
[40:11] Heather Lahdenpera: And there's no limit on the amount of time children's data would be stored in this database.
[40:23] Heather Lahdenpera: And apparently, the health department wants this oil from our children.
[40:31] Kim Monson: Cindy Loveland, let's bring you in.
[40:33] Kim Monson: You are with the National Vaccination Information Center.
[40:37] Kim Monson: And this whole data collection thing.
[40:39] Kim Monson: It's almost it's my head is spinning on it.
[40:47] Cindy Loveland: This all started all the way back in 1992 and when, when the law was first enacted in colorado, this was supposed to be an infant immunization tracking system.
[41:03] Cindy Loveland: And as we went through the years of legislative creep, they added adults actually in 2007.
[41:18] Cindy Loveland: And they can collect that data from numerous places, practitioners, clinics, schools, hospitals, health insurance companies, hospitals.
[41:31] Cindy Loveland: And then in 2005, something that was passed here in the state, before 2005, they could not directly contact an individual or a parent if their child was due for a shot.
[41:47] Cindy Loveland: They couldn't just do like a reminder of who called.
[41:53] Cindy Loveland: it could be the health department or their contractor um who knows um but it would be somebody from the state kind of thing yeah okay you know health department it could be their contractor okay um so in 2005 they changed that to where they could do reminders and recalls So this is what can and will happen is, you know, if you've chosen not to vaccinate your child for, you know, any number of vaccines, you could get a reminder and a recall.
[42:30] Kim Monson: Okay, so you could get that and we're like, well, why would you be concerned about that?
[42:36] Kim Monson: But many times, and I'm seeing this, Cindy, in other arenas here is, I was talking about the electric vehicles.
[42:43] Kim Monson: If somebody wants to purchase an electric vehicle, please have the freedom to do that.
[42:49] Kim Monson: But we're now seeing there have been carrots on electric vehicles from these tax income credits, both from the federal and from the state.
[42:59] Kim Monson: And people have not been buying the percentage that the PBIs, the politicians and bureaucrats, think that they should.
[43:06] Kim Monson: And so now there was the carrot, and we're starting to see force.
[43:09] Kim Monson: So I think my point is, is here we're seeing that maybe a carrot, if you will, a note saying, hey, you may want to get your kids vaccinated.
[43:18] Kim Monson: But the next thing that could come down the pike is is force.
[43:21] Kim Monson: I know it's hard to believe, but I see that coming now.
[43:26] Cindy Loveland: Well, and they use the vaccine tracking system in Florida to go door to door to try to improve the rates.
[43:35] Cindy Loveland: It's all about the numbers, the benchmarks, the measures, the goals.
[43:39] Cindy Loveland: These are all just numbers, but as they trickle down, they translate into mandated policies at the state level.
[43:47] Cindy Loveland: And, you know, it's like some people think they don't want to be in this tracking system.
[43:53] Cindy Loveland: They should be asked permission before they get put in there.
[43:59] Cindy Loveland: You know, you get put in there without your knowledge and consent.
[44:02] Cindy Loveland: And efforts to try to make this what we would call an opt-in, where they would have to ask permission, failed.
[44:10] Cindy Loveland: And they failed because, and this was told to me by the sponsor of that bill in 2005, that if we ask permission, then we wouldn't be able to capture everybody.
[44:24] Cindy Loveland: And then in 2007 is when they expanded it to include adults.
[44:29] Cindy Loveland: So a lot of your listeners probably going, hmm, I didn't know I was possibly in this database.
[44:37] Kim Monson: Hey, Cindy, we're going to go to break.
[44:39] Kim Monson: Heather, we're going to go to break.
[44:41] Kim Monson: And when we come back, Heather, I want to ask you about, you know, we thought we kind of dodged a bullet, if you will, regarding this last legislative session because that bad bill, House Bill, what was it, 1312, did not pass.
[44:56] Kim Monson: But then an executive order was issued by Governor Polis.
[45:00] Kim Monson: And you and I talked right after that.
[45:02] Kim Monson: And, again, you kind of took a sigh of relief.
[45:06] Kim Monson: That's one of the reasons why we're doing this show.
[45:10] Kim Monson: We'll be right back with Heather Lodden-Pera and Cindy Loveland.
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[46:30] Kim Monson: I am Kim Monson, and we are dissecting issues as right versus wrong instead of right versus left.
[46:38] Kim Monson: You know, Steve, I think I need to slow down.
[46:40] Kim Monson: I have so many questions I want to ask Heather Laudanpera and Cindy Loveland that I'm tripping over my words.
[46:45] Kim Monson: So I think maybe I should slow it down just a little bit.
[46:48] Producer Steve: Okay.
[46:50] Producer Steve: Well, good luck with this.
[46:52] Kim Monson: Heather, I want to talk to you just a little bit.
[46:55] Kim Monson: First of all, I want to mention you have written an excellent piece.
[46:59] Kim Monson: You said CDPHE mines the new oil health data.
[47:04] Kim Monson: And this is going to be on my website, I think, on Sunday.
[47:08] Kim Monson: I'm not sure when Zach's going to get that up.
[47:10] Kim Monson: But if you want, it'll be in the newsletter for sure.
[47:13] Kim Monson: If you want to be on my email list, go to kim at americhicks.
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[47:23] Kim Monson: And it's somewhat riveting, the new oil health data.
[47:27] Kim Monson: But we'll come back to that because the executive order that had come down by Governor Polis, I talked to you, and you seemed to me, at least I thought, kind of breathed a sigh of relief.
[47:38] Heather Lahdenpera: Well, so Governor Polis issued an executive order this summer trying to give ways that vaccination rates can be increased.
[47:50] Heather Lahdenpera: He has been very clear that he does not believe that mandating parents to vaccinate is a good idea.
[48:05] Heather Lahdenpera: One is very, one of them is getting vaccinations to underserved areas where people can't get vaccinations, can't afford them, can't get to the health department, can't do that.
[48:14] Heather Lahdenpera: And then he also had a statement in the executive order that said he was proposing to the State Board of Health an increased use of standardized, easy-to-print medical and non-medical exemption forms.
[48:36] Heather Lahdenpera: It doesn't say go against statute, break the law, force people to use it.
[48:48] Heather Lahdenpera: Now the Board of Health is taking that as a justification to create a rule change.
[48:56] Heather Lahdenpera: So a stakeholder notice was sent out to people interested from the immunization branch in CDPHE, stating that a request for a rulemaking hearing was going to be at the Board of Health in September and that the hearing would be in November.
[49:16] Heather Lahdenpera: There are forms up that you can look at to see what the forms will look like.
[49:21] Heather Lahdenpera: Now, a few years ago, when 1164 in 2016 went through the legislature and didn't pass, that bill wanted the same thing, entering your information into a form with personally identifiable information to the health department.
[49:43] Heather Lahdenpera: After the legislation failed, they informed schools that parents would have to use those forms.
[49:55] Heather Lahdenpera: There are parents at schools being told their children may not go to school.
[50:21] Heather Lahdenpera: And that requires written parent consent before any information on the student record is shared outside of the school.
[50:27] Heather Lahdenpera: So when you submit your vaccine exemption to the school, your letter, it is protected under FERPA.
[50:34] Heather Lahdenpera: And CDPHE is misinforming schools, telling parents to put it into the health department.
[50:43] Heather Lahdenpera: And we also have student data privacy laws that are state, and those are trying to be circumvented.
[51:06] Kim Monson: And this is an unelected, this is appointed people.
[51:11] Kim Monson: They're not elected, and so they're not accountable to us.
[51:13] Kim Monson: And I see such danger in that, Heather.
[51:16] Heather Lahdenpera: If a state agency doesn't get what they want in legislation, is that okay for all of our state agencies to go rogue and make rules and try to circumvent law.
[51:27] Heather Lahdenpera: I mean, can you imagine, Kim, if all of our federal agencies, all of our state agencies in any different arena, pick your pick your agency.
[51:35] Heather Lahdenpera: And is it OK for them to bypass the law and make their own rules and then misinform the public and create confusion?
[51:51] Kim Monson: We're not supposed to be serving them.
[51:53] Kim Monson: Ladies, this conversation is going very quickly.
[51:55] Kim Monson: We're going to have to have you back.
[51:57] Kim Monson: Cindy Loveland, let's toss it over here to you on these forms, which would be data collection.
[52:03] Kim Monson: You know, we want to protect our kids from the bad guys from a physical standpoint out there, but what about this data?
[52:12] Kim Monson: We need to protect our kids' data as well, not just their own physical little bodies there.
[52:17] Kim Monson: So, Cindy, tell us what you're thinking.
[52:21] Cindy Loveland: Well, the health department knows that FERPA, that federal law that applies to the schools, is a problem.
[52:30] Cindy Loveland: And this is why they keep trying to get people to give them that directly.
[52:35] Cindy Loveland: Because if they get a hold of that data, then HIPAA comes into play.
[52:44] Cindy Loveland: And HIPAA actually has no protection for that data.
[52:49] Cindy Loveland: Once they have it, they can share it with a long list of entities without your knowledge and consent.
[52:57] Cindy Loveland: So this is why, you know, they don't like the fact that the schools have that data because it is protected.
[53:06] Cindy Loveland: If you give it directly to the health department, it's gone, you know, and there's not much you can do about it.
[53:12] Cindy Loveland: They say you can, quote, opt out, but we like to use the term it's like Hotel California.
[53:18] Cindy Loveland: You can check out, but you can never leave because they never purge the data.
[53:23] Kim Monson: You know, and I wanted to back up to this hearing thing also, Cindy, because the Air Quality Control Commission is under the CDPHE as well.
[53:34] Kim Monson: And so all these different agencies have hearings.
[53:38] Kim Monson: And then if you have a concern about something and you didn't go to the hearing, they say, hey, we had a hearing and you guys didn't show up.
[53:46] Kim Monson: I mean, you could be 24-7 almost going to hearings and writing letters so that your voice would be heard.
[53:55] Kim Monson: So I was going to go down to the Air Quality Control Commission, again as part of CDPHE, to make comments during the time they advertised public comments.
[54:05] Kim Monson: And when I got down there, they said that they were going to be there from 12 to 3 and then also 6 to 8.
[54:14] Kim Monson: 15 that night because that's the earliest I could get there.
[54:17] Kim Monson: And I thought, wait a minute, you said you wanted to hear what we had to say.
[54:22] Kim Monson: And so I think in some ways, this is just a shell game, Cindy.
[54:25] Cindy Loveland: It is very, extremely frustrating to try and have an impact on an administrative role.
[54:33] Cindy Loveland: It's even harder than trying to have an impact, you know, when you go down to the Capitol, at least when you go to the Capitol, you've got an elected official that's representing you.
[54:42] Cindy Loveland: and they have hearings and they usually do their best to let people at least give two minutes.
[54:50] Cindy Loveland: That's not always the case at, you know, these state rulemaking.
[54:56] Kim Monson: Well, and so that's why I, you know, we need to stay on top of this.
[55:00] Kim Monson: Heather, you did amazing work in keeping people informed about this last bill, 1312.
[55:06] Kim Monson: I'm hearing through the grapevine that we're going to have a cousin of 1312 this next legislative session.
[55:12] Kim Monson: And so we need to be prepared on that.
[55:15] Kim Monson: Heather, we've got just about 30 seconds.
[55:20] Heather Lahdenpera: My final thought is that this seems as if it only pertains to a very small percentage of people out there who are taking vaccine exemptions.
[55:28] Heather Lahdenpera: And I'm sure there's many people out there thinking, well, you know, that doesn't matter to me.
[55:34] Heather Lahdenpera: It does matter because if we allow now children to be tracked like that, the next people to be tracked are the adults, because there is Healthy People 2020, an adult vaccination schedule out there.
[55:47] Heather Lahdenpera: They're going to restrict children from school if you don't take 52 shots and however many more they want to get and add to the schedule.
[55:54] Heather Lahdenpera: When the adult schedule comes out, what restrictions are going to be on parents and adults?
[56:02] Heather Lahdenpera: Do you want your choices to be made by the government or you're penalized?
[56:07] Heather Lahdenpera: This data collection across the board, but specifically on health choices, in my opinion, is a very, very, the wrong road to go down.
[56:16] Kim Monson: And Cindy Loveland, I think that Heather pretty well said it all, don't you?
[56:20] Cindy Loveland: Yeah, just real quick, I would encourage your listeners to register for the NVIC Advocacy Journal at nvicadvocacy.
[56:36] Kim Monson: Heather Laudan-Pera, thank you so much.
[56:39] Kim Monson: Chesterton said, the Bible tells us to love our neighbors and also to love our enemies, probably because generally they are the same people.
[56:47] Kim Monson: God bless you and God bless America.